@gotsda Do the Sherman tank passed out when the WWII was over? or they used it in Vietnam? I've seen a lot of "Vietnam movies" where Americans have a "sherman look like tank"
@Sn1perF0X It was there downfall Putting more time into design then building Look at the tiger tank vs the sherman tank The Tiger was better yet small numbers vs the sherman i think the numbers were somewhere near 6 to 1
@gotsda at the start of blitz krieg Germans used light armored fast attack tanks towards the end of that Med to heavy tanks were produced Mean while Ford was still making cars and trucks Many of those shermans didn't come out to fight or even were made till after 1941/42 headed for the pacific Not all of them seen the europe front Most of the Shermans started late in the war and were outdated by the Centurion tank on the field it was 6 to 1
@gotsda The Centurion tank was the answer to the German Panther tank and Soviet T-34 class. Started design was mid war with the idea of no one knew when the war would end ..At any rate there was never a battlefield with 1300 Tiger tanks verse 50,000 Shermans My point was On the battlefields along the mark of ww2 American and Britsh mass over run Germany. Something wikipedia isn't going to tell you Or pre-ww2 German aces But there were and it happened
@gotsda And i still don't see a battle with 40 to 1 odds As for your idea on Korea as the Centurions first battle. Your wrong. Indo-Pakistani war. of 1947 first seen them in battle You pretty much said? Or were you making Quotes from wiki? There were not used up untill 1991 some are still used today Israel, South Africa.
@freakyflow So fuck if it first fought in India or pakistan? You said it was used in World War 2 before, so you're obviously using a wiki yourself or atleast reading it out of a book.
And why are you devaluing the accuracy of wikipedia? Most pages are locked and have reliable sources.
400 Tigers to 10'000 shermans wouldn't be 40 to 1, tigers could usually take out somthing near like 7 shermans, but even so there were more German tanks than just tigers most superior to the sherman
@gotsda i did need wikipedia My grandfather (still alive) fought in the normandy landings as a loader my aunt worked in a shell and ammo factory 20 mins from my house Accuracy is from the source the men who fought and died not wikipedia or someone who throws up 50,000! when it was 49,000+ find me the part where i said "Centurions fought in ww2" If you can't read what i said don't answer it ..simple AGAIN Centurions were The british answer to the tiger
@freakyflow And lets be honest here youy aren't making a coherant arguement, initially you said there was 1 tiger to every 6 shermans, which is clearly wrong.
You then said the Centurion was used in WW2.
Now your spouting the bullshit pointless facts, I corrected you.
@gotsda well if you find it a arguement to try and get your point across thats fine. But i'm not going to hold your hand and show you the diffrents with 1300 vs 50,000 tanks fighting at once, and 6 shermans vs 1 tiger on a battle field and my facts come from a vet of ww2 he never seen 1300 tigers but the 2 that he did he blew up so i guess it was 59,999 that he missed ? zzzzzz
@freakyflow Initially you never said it would be 6 to 1 on the field, you said the numbers were 6 to 1.
Which is just wrong.
So you have a vet? You're saying that as if it wasn't one of the best documented wars in history and that any historical source could never have been written by someone involved.
@gotsda Again your saying your saying ? Are you trying to reword my words to benifit your own? Seeing is Believing And no i don't have a vet. I have a grandfather who is a vet. A Canadian. Which were the first to set foot on Normandy. And was in many types of tanks In the battles he had seen Most tanks or Cannons he or his group fought against were dug in and hidden He told me "We would ether Flank them or Hold and wait for air and ground support. Running right at them was a waste oflife
@gotsda How did you get your 50,000 ish number from? must of been a lucky guess Did your lucky guess also tell you not all 50,000 ever seen a battle field? you still think 50,000, to 1300 which is wrong 40 to 1 which is wrong bullshit pointless facts 50,000 shermans were never made "EVER" ISH or not. ISH is not a fact
@freakyflow I did take those things into consideration, I got the 50'000ish number from wikipedia it was 49,234 thats pretty close to 50'000 less than a 2% margin of error.
"bullshit pointless facts" thats not as bullshit as you trying to tell me the Centurion tank fought in world war two, then denying it without realising I can read the posts you put previously.
Anyway, your bullshit 'fact' of 1 to 6 hasn't been verified with a source.
@gotsda Have fun with your wiki they don't tell you 1,693 of them never touched german ground or seen a enemy tank. Is there's someone else maybe uses your computer i can talk to? that doesn't need someone elses words? My butt hurt? are you use to touching other men? Just like 50,000 is a error that we both know so is the fact i never said Centurion tank fought in the war.. it was designed mid ww2 for the attack on the tiger Never said it fought it ..your grabbing at straws wikiboy
@freakyflow 49,234 - 1,693 = 47 541 So You're telling me the 1300 tigers versus at the very least half of the 47541 shermans would equate to 1 to 6? Learn2Maths.
Calling me wiki boy yet you said "@gotsda i did need wikipedia"
And I even gave you're quote of saying Centurions fought in the war, "Shermans started late in the war and were outdated by the Centurion tank on the field " So why are you pretending you never said these things lol, you really are butthurt.
@gotsda learn2maths? wow thats awsome ..you still thinking about my ass? sweet you still find me that batlle of 50,000 no wait 50,000ish no wait 49,234 no wait 47,541 tanks vs 1300 not wait 1235 tigers
@gotsda That just it you don't have a fucking clue what your talking about. Why the fuck i'm i talking to you? other then wiki and touching mens assholes You don't have a mind of your own to figure out The time span of production and areas of battles on which my facts are right all you can do is look it up and try and follow in my footsteps with your calculator in one hand and god knows what in the other hand Learn2maths? I hope it wasn't in your english class
@freakyflow 49'000+ ? so approximatly 50'000 ish. I'm sorry that I dont refer to wikipedia (you brought it up like twice so you must have a filthy conscious trying to pass that off as own knowledge) every time, and that I dont have the figure written down somewhere.
This is quoting you "Most of the Shermans started late in the war and were outdated by the Centurion tank on the field"
If that isn't saying Centurion tanks fought in WW2 then i dont know what is.
so now all you US haters on the other videos can stop hateing cuz hears germans fighting the allies so stop bitching on the other videos they didint just do american and make them look better.
@2002qdog The planes size doesnt exactly make it a bomber, and not exactly a fighter. It was in a sorta of grey area that allowed it to serve as both a fighter and a fast bomber
I have to go back in time and in the 1930s before the war and tell the allies to make a X wing fighter and the Germans tie fighter and so we can have our own little Star Wars battle.
@CheckMySix hmm you Do realize that this about the germans right? stop bitching about america getting more coverage then other countrys natrualy a american show will do more american battles becouse naturaly americans want to hear about what THERE fathers did in the war.
As I said I love this series,BUT its called "Dogfights" [General] so its not unreasonable to question Why one of the most decisive battles in History [Battle of Britain] wasnt even mentioned.
I have a Massive Respect for America and All its Armed Forces Past and Present,
I was not Bitching About America and Granted this Episode was about German\Japanese Aircraft but the Series did as a point of fact tend to favour US Dogfights
@CheckMySix Yeah like in the first it called the mustand the most advanced allied intercepter in August 1944, the British had a jet fighter in commision the month before that.
Did he say "Rhine-Borsig" cannons? That's "Rhinemetall-Borsig". And why don't they show any vapor trail in the animations, when the videos very clearly show it? He even says "he saw the telltale vapor trail"! Also, getting shot down was unlikely, and exploding on landing impossible...the fuel was gone. The danger was the 163 itself! And a Mosquito is hardly a good example of a "dogfighter"...it COULD hold it's own, but it was a bomber originally. Hardly an even match in a turning fight!
The Me-163B could only take off and land from a grass field because of the volatility of the fuel which if leaked would ignite the surface of a runway. The pilots wore plastic like flight suits not asbestos. For the best account read "Rocket Fighter" by Mano Ziegler a great book written by one of the best "Flea" pilots which is what they nicknamed that plane.But other than that this is a pretty fairly accurate account.
People wonder why allied (especially American) pilots are featured in this series, but the Me 163 pilot narrative demonstrates that it's hard to be impressed by someone fighting on the side of pure evil -- regardless of their "accomplishments".
@gprickril Demonstrates how? Maybe you aren't impressed by Axis pilots, but you don't speak for everyone. I find it more impressive to hear of guys fighting a loosing fight against massive odds than to hear about pilots flying in a massive, powerful and growing air force against a weakened and stumbling enemy. Stating that Germans fought for evil is as dumb as saying that people hate America because they "hate our freedom and democracy"...they mostly hate our greedy and immoral modern culture.
@skeilak NAZI-LOVING??? not getting Mad by using CAPS im laughing though!!!! I like the Germans not nazis as typical aragant americans say because they kicked your ass in WW 1can 2 4 bombing country of serbia as the bitchass brit politician ordered instead of doing peaceful negotiations in 1999. your capitalistic slash imperialistic ignorant country and UN supported racoist terrorists that were 2 drive serbs from our own soil!!! DUMBASSS I GIVE THE NAZIS CREDIT 4 KILLING AMERICANS AND BRITISH!
@skeilak well in my time christmas almost over. santa is too fat to go throuh my chimmney. yu heard this truth or fiction show on dicovery?? some dumbass packed a santa outfit in his sutcase. next morning his wife found him dead in her chimney with a broken neck!!
Yet again I foind myself torn between two sides dueto my ancestry, on one side there is germany and its incredible weapons and the other side there's britan with production capability, ohhh which one do i choose?
why is it so surprising that it's maneuverable? its a tiny aircraft with HUGE wings and an extremely powerful engine. Historically these are ingredients to making a maneuverable plane.
asbestos suits? isnt that the stuff that gives you cancer? Guess that was a secondary consideration at the time XD.
I'm kinda jealous of these few guys. The only people ever to fly rocket fighters in war time. Gotta be an insane rush. Oh well at least we have BASE jumping :).
@IcyScythe LOL the last thing these guys were worried about is long term problems. They had a huge chance of exploding on takeoff, exploding on landing, or an explosion during fueling. Also there was a risk of being dowsed with the very dangerous flesh eating chemicals in the fuel which is why they had the suits.
@AgentMorris94 P 47s didn't have enough fuel to go from britain to eastern germany due to their heavy armor and not enough P51s were ever produced to keep up with how quickly the B17s were rolling out,so the mosquito was the only other plane that had enough range to escort the bombers to their targets.Those planes were a miracle of aeronautics,almost as ingenious as some of stuff the germans came up with
@julosx How? The Me-163 was obviously a more maneuverable aircraft and it's not impossible to believe that one shot down a Mosquito.
And even if it isn't real, so what? It's make a good story, I think that every European here is pretty much overreacting to something that's not really that big of a deal.
this program is crap because it has only done one british episode and that wasent arial warfare that was maritime warfare.And why the hell didi that mossie have canadian markings on it,if it was canadian it what of had a tiny canadian flag underneath the cockpit not an raf roundel with a maple leaf on it it would be the typical R.A.F markings.This programm is really against the british.Not only WW2 but the falklands war were we scored 28 confirmed ariel kills against those peski argies
@LethalPenguin92 yep but if that wasn't known at time and if they didn't have it than it would mean instant death. I read a book written by one of the test pilots and he said that one guy had leak of one of the components to cabin and only left side of jawbone was found. Author is Manno Ziegler if you are interested.
@MarsImperator2 I don't give a fuck. Anybody that followed Hitler is a dead cunt. I don't fucking care what country there from, Their all cun'ts that DESERVED to die.
Wow. They finally showed an adversary victory against US/Allied aircraft in a normal dogfight. All the other segments, you know the outcome will be a US/Allied victory, which is too predictable.
I wish they'd shown more adversary victories to mix things up, like Galland or Moelders in a 109 in '40, or Kozhedub in a MiG-15 over Korea or Nguyễn Văn Cốc in a MiG-21 or Jalal Zandi in a F-14 during the Iran-Iraq War.
0:39-0:44 Komet turning into a sitting duck for enemy fighter- I say that depends on how fast the Komet was as a glider. Because from what I know, the Soviet Polikarpov Po-2 flew so slow, German fighters could not shoot it because they had no time to take aim before outrunning it.
I wonder how many pilots were wounded, killed or anyway damaged in this trap, considering that worst problem of luftwaffe last days was shortage of experienced pilots, I doubt the balance was positive.
@damaged01 The first pilots actually wore standard flight suits until the first ones came in touch with the corrosive fuel in accidents. I once read in a book that one pilot was exposed to the fuel for less than a minute until they dragged him out of the wreckage. His legs were so badly burned, they had to amputate them.
He says "Mark" 108, but that isn't what it means at all... the "MK" in "MK 108" means "motor kanone", or, literally translated, "motor cannon"... it was the German term for autocannon...
Actually, this Mosquito looks to have four 20mm cannons, and considering the German MK108's tendency to jam, poor muzzle velocity, and low rate of fire, it would have been underarmed fighting a Mosqutio like this...
@mgibbs88 Actually, considering the German MK108's tendency to jam, poor muzzle velocity and low rate of fire, the four 20mm cannons carried by this Mosquito would have been more than superior...
Bah, typically American: can't imagine that anybody else would be so naughty as to not use American weapons. The Mosquito, of course, didn't have .30 machineguns at all. They were .303, as two minutes' research would have shown.
For him (Schubert) the Mosquito was finished.... I know a lot of allied "heroes" and aces who would have dived and blowed the handicapped plane out of the sky...and on history channel we would hear the bravery of their actions !!! Well..dont get me wrong, its okay and wonderful that the Nazis were fought against....but not all allied actions were the actions of a sovereign winner, like they want to have looked upon today
well could be Klockner as well instead of Schubert..but these are just names..not actions....so I stay to my reply the Me 163 pilots were heroes fighting for an evil regime
Yeah, imagine if they had a more successful version with jet engine. This thing will be unstoppable, in sufficient numbers they could demolish an entire air force within days.
Jetfighters, first subs that could remain submerged the entire mission, first balastic missile, first radarshieldmaterial on bombers and the german army was the first to use tanks as they should be used.
@greencurrycamo i read and it does say the brits but on the milltary channel it showed the same tank and it said Americans and i saw it on 20 century battle fields i think
America only started using tanks at the very end of WW1; the first American tank design was the 1918 Holt. The British, who invented the tank, first used them in combat in September 1916 and, by the battle of Cambrai in 1917, had developed a breakthrough doctrine to use them effectively (at this point the US Army still believed that frontal infantry assaults on enemy trench systems were a valid tactic.) As far as I know the only US tanks used in WW1 were a few French Renaults.
"Tank" was actually a cover name to disguise what they were. The factories building them were told that they were mobile water tanks for desert warfare.
OK, I've done some research. America produced a total of 64 tanks during WW1, all copies of the Renault MT17 light tank, and used somewhere between 64 and none of them in combat (I can find no references to US use of tanks at all.) Meanwhile France produced 3,694 light and 800 heavy tanks and Britain built 200 light and 2,197 heavy tanks. Britain used 378 combat and 98 support tanks at Cambrai alone, while America was still sending token infantry units with no tactical knowledge.
Let's not forget the submachinegun, the cruise missile, the assault rifle, the general-purpose machinegun, the wire-guided missile, the self-propelled artillery piece, the anti-ship missile and teh anti-aircraft missile.
Of course the first successful military submarine was the CSS Hunley, which sank a US ship in the 1860s, but it didn't exactly compare with the first U-Boats in technology.
the submachnegun was created by the brits, the first combat planes were also and they also made the tanks! not by germans...still today the brits make a lot of stuff!
No, the first submachinegun was the MP18. The first British submachinegun, the Lanchester, was a direct copy of it. The "Warminster school" in the British general staff hated the SMG and resisted its introduction because it didn't fit in with their ideas about marksmanship.
i don't think so...at school i studied that it was the brits wwho made it first! but maybe ur right! r u really from Afganistan? salute to your country!
No, I'm not from Afghanistan; I'm from the UK, live in Germany and currently work in Afghanistan (which is why I have it as my country of residence.) Confusing, I know.
The submachinegun is definitely a German invention: the MP18 was the first SMG design, and was used by the stormtrooper units the Germans formed in 1918. My job (high-risk security) has given me an interest in weapons and I consider myself a minor expert on small-arms.
True, but the Me-262 was rushed into combat and had many technical problems. Also as the first jet fighter even ace pilots had hard time handling it and very few people could master it the way they could other planes. But those that could would remain some of the few Luftwaffe aces to live after the war.
@klugerhans p-47s, spitfires, p-51s, b-17s, b-24s and others had been shot down in ww2 by the luftwaffe, its just not something they like to show you for obvious reasons
No, because when an engine gets torn off a bomber, it throws off the weight balance and it causes the bomber to go out of control. Since the bomber is so heavy and it has a huge bomb payload, it would be extremely difficult, if not impossible, to hold it in the air to glide.
Wings have control surfaces, if those are destroyed the plane goes out of control. And if the hydraulic system is destroyed, the pilot can't control the plane. The Me-163 was armed with big 30mm cannons designed to shoot down even a tough B-17s with only 1 or 2 hits. Bomber crews nickednamed the 30mm cannon the Jackhammer.
Forgets to mention the mosquito is made out of wood.
gotsda 3 days ago
@gotsda Do the Sherman tank passed out when the WWII was over? or they used it in Vietnam? I've seen a lot of "Vietnam movies" where Americans have a "sherman look like tank"
BiohazardCrow 3 days ago
Don't know why he said RAF and the fighter shows RCAF markings on the fighter
freakyflow 5 days ago
The Germans had the best techonologies but it never has been realy used usefull
Sn1perF0X 1 week ago
@Sn1perF0X It was there downfall Putting more time into design then building Look at the tiger tank vs the sherman tank The Tiger was better yet small numbers vs the sherman i think the numbers were somewhere near 6 to 1
freakyflow 5 days ago
@freakyflow You've got to be kidding me, I think like 1300 tigers were produce compared to the 50'000 shermans produced.
So it was more like 40 to 1.
Got to consider more tigers were in the east aswell.
gotsda 3 days ago
@gotsda at the start of blitz krieg Germans used light armored fast attack tanks towards the end of that Med to heavy tanks were produced Mean while Ford was still making cars and trucks Many of those shermans didn't come out to fight or even were made till after 1941/42 headed for the pacific Not all of them seen the europe front Most of the Shermans started late in the war and were outdated by the Centurion tank on the field it was 6 to 1
freakyflow 3 days ago
@freakyflow The Centurion tank was never used in WW2, the first production one was driven out of the factory just one day after VE day.
I do understand a lot of shermans were sent to the pacific, most were however sent to Europe where the Allies decided to apply the most pressure
The Shermans were first used in El Alamein, and they weren't even made until 1942
I also commented that most of these tigers would have been fighting the Russians in the east
so what 400 tigers versus 10'00 shermans
gotsda 3 days ago
@gotsda The Centurion tank was the answer to the German Panther tank and Soviet T-34 class. Started design was mid war with the idea of no one knew when the war would end ..At any rate there was never a battlefield with 1300 Tiger tanks verse 50,000 Shermans My point was On the battlefields along the mark of ww2 American and Britsh mass over run Germany. Something wikipedia isn't going to tell you Or pre-ww2 German aces But there were and it happened
freakyflow 2 days ago
@freakyflow I know what the Centurion tank was, and it never saw operational usage until Korea.
And was used up until 1991 albeit with a different role and upgraded chobham armour.
I never said that there would be a battlefield of 50'000 shermans against 1300 tigers.
I also pretty much said they overran the germans with numbers (and in some cases better tactics).
I dont see your point.
gotsda 2 days ago
@gotsda And i still don't see a battle with 40 to 1 odds As for your idea on Korea as the Centurions first battle. Your wrong. Indo-Pakistani war. of 1947 first seen them in battle You pretty much said? Or were you making Quotes from wiki? There were not used up untill 1991 some are still used today Israel, South Africa.
freakyflow 1 day ago
@freakyflow So fuck if it first fought in India or pakistan? You said it was used in World War 2 before, so you're obviously using a wiki yourself or atleast reading it out of a book.
And why are you devaluing the accuracy of wikipedia? Most pages are locked and have reliable sources.
400 Tigers to 10'000 shermans wouldn't be 40 to 1, tigers could usually take out somthing near like 7 shermans, but even so there were more German tanks than just tigers most superior to the sherman
gotsda 1 day ago
@gotsda i did need wikipedia My grandfather (still alive) fought in the normandy landings as a loader my aunt worked in a shell and ammo factory 20 mins from my house Accuracy is from the source the men who fought and died not wikipedia or someone who throws up 50,000! when it was 49,000+ find me the part where i said "Centurions fought in ww2" If you can't read what i said don't answer it ..simple AGAIN Centurions were The british answer to the tiger
freakyflow 1 day ago
@freakyflow And lets be honest here youy aren't making a coherant arguement, initially you said there was 1 tiger to every 6 shermans, which is clearly wrong.
You then said the Centurion was used in WW2.
Now your spouting the bullshit pointless facts, I corrected you.
Its over there isnt an arguement.
gotsda 1 day ago
@gotsda well if you find it a arguement to try and get your point across thats fine. But i'm not going to hold your hand and show you the diffrents with 1300 vs 50,000 tanks fighting at once, and 6 shermans vs 1 tiger on a battle field and my facts come from a vet of ww2 he never seen 1300 tigers but the 2 that he did he blew up so i guess it was 59,999 that he missed ? zzzzzz
freakyflow 1 day ago
@freakyflow Initially you never said it would be 6 to 1 on the field, you said the numbers were 6 to 1.
Which is just wrong.
So you have a vet? You're saying that as if it wasn't one of the best documented wars in history and that any historical source could never have been written by someone involved.
gotsda 1 day ago
@gotsda Again your saying your saying ? Are you trying to reword my words to benifit your own? Seeing is Believing And no i don't have a vet. I have a grandfather who is a vet. A Canadian. Which were the first to set foot on Normandy. And was in many types of tanks In the battles he had seen Most tanks or Cannons he or his group fought against were dug in and hidden He told me "We would ether Flank them or Hold and wait for air and ground support. Running right at them was a waste oflife
freakyflow 1 day ago
@gotsda How did you get your 50,000 ish number from? must of been a lucky guess Did your lucky guess also tell you not all 50,000 ever seen a battle field? you still think 50,000, to 1300 which is wrong 40 to 1 which is wrong bullshit pointless facts 50,000 shermans were never made "EVER" ISH or not. ISH is not a fact
freakyflow 1 day ago
@freakyflow I did take those things into consideration, I got the 50'000ish number from wikipedia it was 49,234 thats pretty close to 50'000 less than a 2% margin of error.
"bullshit pointless facts" thats not as bullshit as you trying to tell me the Centurion tank fought in world war two, then denying it without realising I can read the posts you put previously.
Anyway, your bullshit 'fact' of 1 to 6 hasn't been verified with a source.
You're butthurt because you lost. Deal with it.
gotsda 1 day ago
@gotsda Have fun with your wiki they don't tell you 1,693 of them never touched german ground or seen a enemy tank. Is there's someone else maybe uses your computer i can talk to? that doesn't need someone elses words? My butt hurt? are you use to touching other men? Just like 50,000 is a error that we both know so is the fact i never said Centurion tank fought in the war.. it was designed mid ww2 for the attack on the tiger Never said it fought it ..your grabbing at straws wikiboy
freakyflow 1 day ago
@freakyflow 49,234 - 1,693 = 47 541 So You're telling me the 1300 tigers versus at the very least half of the 47541 shermans would equate to 1 to 6? Learn2Maths.
Calling me wiki boy yet you said "@gotsda i did need wikipedia"
And I even gave you're quote of saying Centurions fought in the war, "Shermans started late in the war and were outdated by the Centurion tank on the field " So why are you pretending you never said these things lol, you really are butthurt.
gotsda 21 hours ago
@gotsda learn2maths? wow thats awsome ..you still thinking about my ass? sweet you still find me that batlle of 50,000 no wait 50,000ish no wait 49,234 no wait 47,541 tanks vs 1300 not wait 1235 tigers
freakyflow 21 hours ago
@freakyflow actually there were 1,347 tiger tanks made...
You lose faggot.
gotsda 20 hours ago
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@freakyflow actually there were 1,347 tiger tanks made...
You lose faggot.
gotsda 20 hours ago
@freakyflow I never said there were 47,541 shermans made, just according to you that was the amount that actually made it to battle.
gotsda 20 hours ago
@gotsda That just it you don't have a fucking clue what your talking about. Why the fuck i'm i talking to you? other then wiki and touching mens assholes You don't have a mind of your own to figure out The time span of production and areas of battles on which my facts are right all you can do is look it up and try and follow in my footsteps with your calculator in one hand and god knows what in the other hand Learn2maths? I hope it wasn't in your english class
freakyflow 13 hours ago
@freakyflow 49'000+ ? so approximatly 50'000 ish. I'm sorry that I dont refer to wikipedia (you brought it up like twice so you must have a filthy conscious trying to pass that off as own knowledge) every time, and that I dont have the figure written down somewhere.
This is quoting you "Most of the Shermans started late in the war and were outdated by the Centurion tank on the field"
If that isn't saying Centurion tanks fought in WW2 then i dont know what is.
gotsda 1 day ago
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@freakyflow Your facts weren't right...
It wasn't 6 to 1 you grabbed that out of thin air.
you even said yourself you use wikis.
You're grammar is atrocious.
The Centurion tank didn't fight in WW2, and no matter how much you deny saying it you did.
You also said "Many of those shermans didn't come out to fight or even were made till after 1941/42 " When shermans weren't in service until 1942.
Anyway, Shermans were awful tanks, so bad they needed spammed at any Tigers.
gotsda 3 hours ago
after the me 163 would have been the 263 which was faster and better engineered and it had two extra guns but it never saw combat
crickleymal 2 weeks ago
so now all you US haters on the other videos can stop hateing cuz hears germans fighting the allies so stop bitching on the other videos they didint just do american and make them look better.
apairon2 2 weeks ago
how does such a big plane dogfigt(the mequito)?
2002qdog 2 weeks ago
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porpus99 2 weeks ago
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@2002qdog The planes size doesnt exactly make it a bomber, and not exactly a fighter. It was in a sorta of grey area that allowed it to serve as both a fighter and a fast bomber
porpus99 2 weeks ago
how pilot navigate to get back to their basae, in that time?
bookrey2000 1 month ago
I have to go back in time and in the 1930s before the war and tell the allies to make a X wing fighter and the Germans tie fighter and so we can have our own little Star Wars battle.
TheSupersoldier1234 1 month ago
@CheckMySix you are totally right! I also wish they hadn't cancelled this series!
PaisGreenapple3 1 month ago
I absolutely love the "Dogfights" series
BUT for some reason the most decisive aerial Battle of WWII does'nt even get a mention
"The Battle of Britain" had its fair share of Dogfights which established some of the greatest Fighter Pilots of any era.
Galland,Molders,Hartmann,Bader,Doe,Townsend just to name a Few.
It seems that yet again that an American made series only wants to consentrate on American
Battles and Glories.
They could have featured "Eagle Squadron" if nothing else.
CheckMySix 1 month ago 2
@CheckMySix hmm you Do realize that this about the germans right? stop bitching about america getting more coverage then other countrys natrualy a american show will do more american battles becouse naturaly americans want to hear about what THERE fathers did in the war.
apairon2 2 weeks ago
@apairon2
As I said I love this series,BUT its called "Dogfights" [General] so its not unreasonable to question Why one of the most decisive battles in History [Battle of Britain] wasnt even mentioned.
I have a Massive Respect for America and All its Armed Forces Past and Present,
I was not Bitching About America and Granted this Episode was about German\Japanese Aircraft but the Series did as a point of fact tend to favour US Dogfights
CheckMySix 1 week ago
@CheckMySix Yeah like in the first it called the mustand the most advanced allied intercepter in August 1944, the British had a jet fighter in commision the month before that.
gotsda 3 days ago
@gotsda the "Mustang" in this part of the war was advanced The Mustand D was fitted with a British made Merlin engine
freakyflow 3 days ago
@freakyflow The Merlin D engine wasn't a jet engine. Its rotary blades were old in comparison to jet engines.
gotsda 3 days ago
im sure the US has paid reasonable money to the germans for this video
deathprize88 1 month ago
German Luftwaffe pilots were not suicide pilots.
The end of this sequence implies they were. That is a wrong thing to do.
Photonzos 1 month ago
@Photonzos
Actually there were two units that were signed up to be suicide pilots near the end of the war. Sonderkommando Elbe was one of these units.
EvilxMerlin 1 month ago
5:35 Vlogna is here. The Mosquito is here. NEVER!!!
TheRedDal3k 2 months ago
when i watch planes duelling it is just like watching two dogs fighting. not.
topperheartramada 2 months ago
damn producers they should have interviewed more german pilots attackin damn allied planes so we get more action!!! thumbs up if u want that!!
HybodusStudios 2 months ago
THE B17 DESERVED THE KOMETS PUNISHMENT BIG TIME!!!
HybodusStudios 2 months ago
Five people don't like good shows.
Dualguitar6 2 months ago
@justforever96 The only real flaws of the 163: the dangerous fuel, and lack of landing gear...
FuLLeFFekT1 2 months ago
the me 163 had 2 30 mm kannons i think...
Mangeli200194 4 months ago
@Mangeli200194 it is XD
gokuta333 3 months ago
@Mangeli200194 cannons
kaloan999 2 months ago
Did he say "Rhine-Borsig" cannons? That's "Rhinemetall-Borsig". And why don't they show any vapor trail in the animations, when the videos very clearly show it? He even says "he saw the telltale vapor trail"! Also, getting shot down was unlikely, and exploding on landing impossible...the fuel was gone. The danger was the 163 itself! And a Mosquito is hardly a good example of a "dogfighter"...it COULD hold it's own, but it was a bomber originally. Hardly an even match in a turning fight!
justforever96 4 months ago
i love the P38 and Mosquito there should b more dogfights on those planes
DrJ2042 5 months ago
And the pilots with the most balls awards goes to=Germany Airforce Pilots in ww2
MostwantedLover1 5 months ago
The Me-163B could only take off and land from a grass field because of the volatility of the fuel which if leaked would ignite the surface of a runway. The pilots wore plastic like flight suits not asbestos. For the best account read "Rocket Fighter" by Mano Ziegler a great book written by one of the best "Flea" pilots which is what they nicknamed that plane.But other than that this is a pretty fairly accurate account.
dynamicangel 5 months ago
Thumbs up if you thought the old man was the one talking in english
ashleighjohn 6 months ago
People wonder why allied (especially American) pilots are featured in this series, but the Me 163 pilot narrative demonstrates that it's hard to be impressed by someone fighting on the side of pure evil -- regardless of their "accomplishments".
gprickril 7 months ago
@gprickril Demonstrates how? Maybe you aren't impressed by Axis pilots, but you don't speak for everyone. I find it more impressive to hear of guys fighting a loosing fight against massive odds than to hear about pilots flying in a massive, powerful and growing air force against a weakened and stumbling enemy. Stating that Germans fought for evil is as dumb as saying that people hate America because they "hate our freedom and democracy"...they mostly hate our greedy and immoral modern culture.
justforever96 4 months ago
@justforever96
So you must REALLY be impressed by the Polish, French, Russian and British air forces, as they fought against the Nazis.
And if the Germans weren't pure evil, as they mercilessly perused their war aims of conquest, subjugation, and genocide, what exactly, were they?
And while you're at it, maybe you can explain to us how and why Americans are so greedy and immoral?
skeilak 2 months ago
@skeilak we meet again
HybodusStudios 2 months ago
@HybodusStudios
Not by my choice, you nazi-loving, racist Serb turd.
skeilak 2 months ago
@skeilak NAZI-LOVING??? not getting Mad by using CAPS im laughing though!!!! I like the Germans not nazis as typical aragant americans say because they kicked your ass in WW 1can 2 4 bombing country of serbia as the bitchass brit politician ordered instead of doing peaceful negotiations in 1999. your capitalistic slash imperialistic ignorant country and UN supported racoist terrorists that were 2 drive serbs from our own soil!!! DUMBASSS I GIVE THE NAZIS CREDIT 4 KILLING AMERICANS AND BRITISH!
HybodusStudios 2 months ago
@HybodusStudios
It's Christmas.
Try to calm down, my little racist Serb turd, and be a good little chunk of shit.
Otherwise, Santa won't bring you any pig manure to roll around in.
skeilak 2 months ago
@skeilak well in my time christmas almost over. santa is too fat to go throuh my chimmney. yu heard this truth or fiction show on dicovery?? some dumbass packed a santa outfit in his sutcase. next morning his wife found him dead in her chimney with a broken neck!!
HybodusStudios 2 months ago
@HybodusStudios
Last I checked, the Germans lost both WW1 and WW2 and both wars the US was actually allied with the British and French amongst others...
EvilxMerlin 1 month ago
@EvilxMerlin Yes I knew that!!! dont need to tell me!!! I'm not stupid like my American Counterparts!!
HybodusStudios 1 month ago
could not ram with that
TDvisionplus 7 months ago
Yet again I foind myself torn between two sides dueto my ancestry, on one side there is germany and its incredible weapons and the other side there's britan with production capability, ohhh which one do i choose?
BloodRaven228 8 months ago
Asbestos clothes, and they live to tell the tale, that's the real amazing thing :D
Hanske90 9 months ago
That pilot has serious gonads!
elmo9319 9 months ago 10
why is it so surprising that it's maneuverable? its a tiny aircraft with HUGE wings and an extremely powerful engine. Historically these are ingredients to making a maneuverable plane.
TheProjektcc 10 months ago 27
@TheProjektcc This interceptor was taken from the design of a Glider
a6m3reisen 10 months ago
@TheProjektcc I guess you tend to think of fast = less maneuverable. Like WW1 planes are some of the most maneuverable cause they're so slow
IcyScythe 7 months ago
asbestos suits? isnt that the stuff that gives you cancer? Guess that was a secondary consideration at the time XD.
I'm kinda jealous of these few guys. The only people ever to fly rocket fighters in war time. Gotta be an insane rush. Oh well at least we have BASE jumping :).
IcyScythe 7 months ago
@IcyScythe Yep but that it caused cancer wasn´t known at that time.
LupusAries 7 months ago
@IcyScythe LOL the last thing these guys were worried about is long term problems. They had a huge chance of exploding on takeoff, exploding on landing, or an explosion during fueling. Also there was a risk of being dowsed with the very dangerous flesh eating chemicals in the fuel which is why they had the suits.
calimar28 7 months ago
according to wikipedia (not that its incredible reliable but it *is* getting its info from somewhere else) that mossie made it back to base.
IcyScythe 7 months ago
@TheProjektcc It doesn't really have an elevator, though. Its all in the middle.
GangsterHutterite 6 months ago
@TheProjektcc that sbecause it wasnt an allied plane.
sjmzeldaavgnfan 3 weeks ago
and today ppl say America is the strongest in this world, 1 on 1 no 1 will beat germany... Long live germany
jamalak74u 10 months ago
Did anyone realize that this video is almost 8 minutes long?
SamPD2 10 months ago
What in the world was the Mosquito pilot doing there anyway shouldn't the bombers be covered by P-51s or P-47s?
AgentMorris94 11 months ago
@AgentMorris94 P 47s didn't have enough fuel to go from britain to eastern germany due to their heavy armor and not enough P51s were ever produced to keep up with how quickly the B17s were rolling out,so the mosquito was the only other plane that had enough range to escort the bombers to their targets.Those planes were a miracle of aeronautics,almost as ingenious as some of stuff the germans came up with
TheWoodstock2009 10 months ago
Only if the kommet could have a engine that didn't suck up too much fule, the war might have gone Hitlers way..
bloodhoun138 11 months ago
@bloodhoun138 it would but hitler made the plane to late
commando9990 10 months ago
another word... 8 minutes
n74jw 11 months ago
Can you imagine if the mosquito's fuel tanks hit the Komet, the nazis are all proud of the plane and it is hit by fuel tanks. lol
3ISAMAGICNUMBR 11 months ago
4 US bomber Pilots Dislike this Video
a6m3reisen 11 months ago
This fight between a Mosquito and a Me 163 looks pretty whimsical to me. I'd bet the WW2 archives don't confirm this kill.
julosx 11 months ago
@julosx How? The Me-163 was obviously a more maneuverable aircraft and it's not impossible to believe that one shot down a Mosquito.
And even if it isn't real, so what? It's make a good story, I think that every European here is pretty much overreacting to something that's not really that big of a deal.
SaturnVII 11 months ago
hitlers mom wanted this :3 lol
thelordofepic 11 months ago
hiney dipmar almost broke the sound barrier whats his face a butt
thelordofepic 11 months ago
this program is crap because it has only done one british episode and that wasent arial warfare that was maritime warfare.And why the hell didi that mossie have canadian markings on it,if it was canadian it what of had a tiny canadian flag underneath the cockpit not an raf roundel with a maple leaf on it it would be the typical R.A.F markings.This programm is really against the british.Not only WW2 but the falklands war were we scored 28 confirmed ariel kills against those peski argies
blahblah48856 1 year ago
An asbestos suit, isn't that cancerous? The whole thing sounds completely dangerous lol.
LethalPenguin92 1 year ago
@LethalPenguin92 yep but if that wasn't known at time and if they didn't have it than it would mean instant death. I read a book written by one of the test pilots and he said that one guy had leak of one of the components to cabin and only left side of jawbone was found. Author is Manno Ziegler if you are interested.
Artanis99 1 year ago
Hope that nazi cunt on this episode is dead :l.
ConCon19143 1 year ago
@ConCon19143
Wow i finally found someone who is living behind the moon =)
how is it there?
no, for real, most of the soldiers weren't nazis, don't insult a brave airman who to our all fortune is still alive
MarsImperator2 1 year ago
@MarsImperator2 I don't give a fuck. Anybody that followed Hitler is a dead cunt. I don't fucking care what country there from, Their all cun'ts that DESERVED to die.
ConCon19143 1 year ago
@ConCon19143
ok you are so radical that there is no discussion needed
MarsImperator2 1 year ago
@MarsImperator2 You wanna start shit, I'll fuckin' finish it mate.
ConCon19143 1 year ago
I like the camera shakes on the flybys
niflap 1 year ago
Wow. They finally showed an adversary victory against US/Allied aircraft in a normal dogfight. All the other segments, you know the outcome will be a US/Allied victory, which is too predictable.
I wish they'd shown more adversary victories to mix things up, like Galland or Moelders in a 109 in '40, or Kozhedub in a MiG-15 over Korea or Nguyễn Văn Cốc in a MiG-21 or Jalal Zandi in a F-14 during the Iran-Iraq War.
bluezappy 1 year ago
I think he changed- they finally show the RAF ( although they lose the dogfight)
lockonfighter1 1 year ago
they had a nazi on the show ????????????/
theRavensdale 1 year ago
@theRavensdale just because he fought for germany dosen't mean he is a nazi
muntham1 1 year ago
Dang, with how fast that ME 163 was going, I would think that little fan could make enough electricity/energy for another pass?
theeking247 1 year ago
Dang, with how fast that ME 163 was going, I would think that little fan could make enough electricity for another pass?
theeking247 1 year ago
Dogfights on youtube.....a meeting place for a bunch of yankee nazi's...
kevinlaca 1 year ago
0:39-0:44 Komet turning into a sitting duck for enemy fighter- I say that depends on how fast the Komet was as a glider. Because from what I know, the Soviet Polikarpov Po-2 flew so slow, German fighters could not shoot it because they had no time to take aim before outrunning it.
Wykletypl 1 year ago
I wonder how many pilots were wounded, killed or anyway damaged in this trap, considering that worst problem of luftwaffe last days was shortage of experienced pilots, I doubt the balance was positive.
vaxiawval 1 year ago
@vaxiawval 10 pilots lost their lives in explosions of the Komet on landing, and takeoff, which is more than were lost in actual combat!
calimar28 7 months ago
Asbestos flight suit. Wow.
damaged01 1 year ago
@damaged01 The first pilots actually wore standard flight suits until the first ones came in touch with the corrosive fuel in accidents. I once read in a book that one pilot was exposed to the fuel for less than a minute until they dragged him out of the wreckage. His legs were so badly burned, they had to amputate them.
KrautGoesWild 1 year ago
The 30mm cannon was a real force to be reckoned with. But the ME-262 was far better.
WWIIisawesome 1 year ago
The 30mm cannon was a real force to be reckoned with.
WWIIisawesome 1 year ago
He says "Mark" 108, but that isn't what it means at all... the "MK" in "MK 108" means "motor kanone", or, literally translated, "motor cannon"... it was the German term for autocannon...
Magus732 1 year ago
Mosquito having superiour armament? Debatable...
mgibbs88 1 year ago
@mgibbs88
Actually, this Mosquito looks to have four 20mm cannons, and considering the German MK108's tendency to jam, poor muzzle velocity, and low rate of fire, it would have been underarmed fighting a Mosqutio like this...
Magus732 1 year ago
@mgibbs88 Actually, considering the German MK108's tendency to jam, poor muzzle velocity and low rate of fire, the four 20mm cannons carried by this Mosquito would have been more than superior...
Magus732 1 year ago
smart scientist
dcarrero26 1 year ago
Bah, typically American: can't imagine that anybody else would be so naughty as to not use American weapons. The Mosquito, of course, didn't have .30 machineguns at all. They were .303, as two minutes' research would have shown.
voiceoftruth2006 1 year ago
For him (Schubert) the Mosquito was finished.... I know a lot of allied "heroes" and aces who would have dived and blowed the handicapped plane out of the sky...and on history channel we would hear the bravery of their actions !!! Well..dont get me wrong, its okay and wonderful that the Nazis were fought against....but not all allied actions were the actions of a sovereign winner, like they want to have looked upon today
grazyarnie 1 year ago
@grazyarnie
well could be Klockner as well instead of Schubert..but these are just names..not actions....so I stay to my reply the Me 163 pilots were heroes fighting for an evil regime
grazyarnie 1 year ago
Germans are scary innovators.
Snipe4261 1 year ago
Yeah, imagine if they had a more successful version with jet engine. This thing will be unstoppable, in sufficient numbers they could demolish an entire air force within days.
zaho87 1 year ago
@zaho87 They did have the me-262 but even though it was sucessful it came too late in the war to change the outcome.
Snipe4261 1 year ago
@Snipe4261 true, and the Atomic bomb was invented,a great unstoppable advantage. but German techs are great. Some of it gave way to newer techs.
davidsongapor 1 year ago
@davidsongapor
Germany invented modernwarfare.
Jetfighters, first subs that could remain submerged the entire mission, first balastic missile, first radarshieldmaterial on bombers and the german army was the first to use tanks as they should be used.
dutchforces 1 year ago
@dutchforces actually americans were first to use tanks in WW1
LtMcloud 1 year ago
@LtMcloud i thought it was the british
Alejandr0TheGreat 1 year ago
@LtMcloud umm... actually british were first to used tanks but dutchforces is correct when he says they are the first to use ttanks correctly
greencurrycamo 1 year ago
@greencurrycamo This is Ltmcloud on my other account when did brits use tanks i know american used them in WW1
620sly 1 year ago
@620sly look in second paragraph of this here article
greencurrycamo 1 year ago
@greencurrycamo look up tank on wikipedia
greencurrycamo 1 year ago
@greencurrycamo i read and it does say the brits but on the milltary channel it showed the same tank and it said Americans and i saw it on 20 century battle fields i think
620sly 1 year ago
@620sly
America only started using tanks at the very end of WW1; the first American tank design was the 1918 Holt. The British, who invented the tank, first used them in combat in September 1916 and, by the battle of Cambrai in 1917, had developed a breakthrough doctrine to use them effectively (at this point the US Army still believed that frontal infantry assaults on enemy trench systems were a valid tactic.) As far as I know the only US tanks used in WW1 were a few French Renaults.
voiceoftruth2006 1 year ago
@LtMcloud WTF are you smoking? Brits were the first. that where the word tank came from, because brits thought that they look like fuel tanks.
russianinja2008 1 year ago
@russianinja2008
"Tank" was actually a cover name to disguise what they were. The factories building them were told that they were mobile water tanks for desert warfare.
voiceoftruth2006 1 year ago
@LtMcloud
"actually Americans were first to use tanks in WW1."
Bollocks. France, Britain and Germany had all used tanks in combat before the USA even joined the war. Don't talk about things you're ignorant of.
voiceoftruth2006 1 year ago
@LtMcloud
OK, I've done some research. America produced a total of 64 tanks during WW1, all copies of the Renault MT17 light tank, and used somewhere between 64 and none of them in combat (I can find no references to US use of tanks at all.) Meanwhile France produced 3,694 light and 800 heavy tanks and Britain built 200 light and 2,197 heavy tanks. Britain used 378 combat and 98 support tanks at Cambrai alone, while America was still sending token infantry units with no tactical knowledge.
voiceoftruth2006 1 year ago
@voiceoftruth2006 Thanks for the info guys
620sly 1 year ago
@dutchforces
"Germany invented modern warfare"
Let's not forget the submachinegun, the cruise missile, the assault rifle, the general-purpose machinegun, the wire-guided missile, the self-propelled artillery piece, the anti-ship missile and teh anti-aircraft missile.
Of course the first successful military submarine was the CSS Hunley, which sank a US ship in the 1860s, but it didn't exactly compare with the first U-Boats in technology.
voiceoftruth2006 1 year ago
@voiceoftruth2006
the submachnegun was created by the brits, the first combat planes were also and they also made the tanks! not by germans...still today the brits make a lot of stuff!
TheMilitarypower 1 year ago
@TheMilitarypower
No, the first submachinegun was the MP18. The first British submachinegun, the Lanchester, was a direct copy of it. The "Warminster school" in the British general staff hated the SMG and resisted its introduction because it didn't fit in with their ideas about marksmanship.
voiceoftruth2006 1 year ago
@voiceoftruth2006
i don't think so...at school i studied that it was the brits wwho made it first! but maybe ur right! r u really from Afganistan? salute to your country!
TheMilitarypower 1 year ago
@TheMilitarypower
No, I'm not from Afghanistan; I'm from the UK, live in Germany and currently work in Afghanistan (which is why I have it as my country of residence.) Confusing, I know.
The submachinegun is definitely a German invention: the MP18 was the first SMG design, and was used by the stormtrooper units the Germans formed in 1918. My job (high-risk security) has given me an interest in weapons and I consider myself a minor expert on small-arms.
voiceoftruth2006 1 year ago
@voiceoftruth2006
that's really cool! are a part of the military of ur just helping out?
TheMilitarypower 1 year ago
@TheMilitarypower
No, I'm a civilian. I coordinate what I'm doing with the military, of course.
voiceoftruth2006 1 year ago
True, but the Me-262 was rushed into combat and had many technical problems. Also as the first jet fighter even ace pilots had hard time handling it and very few people could master it the way they could other planes. But those that could would remain some of the few Luftwaffe aces to live after the war.
zaho87 1 year ago
@Snipe4261 albert eistein, nuclear theorist, and father of the atomic bomb
was german :D
paydafee 1 year ago
@engaurd British not american.
MrJohnwarra 1 year ago
Me262s where more than a match for any american/british/russian fighter in ww2
motormonkeyNL 1 year ago
@klugerhans p-47s, spitfires, p-51s, b-17s, b-24s and others had been shot down in ww2 by the luftwaffe, its just not something they like to show you for obvious reasons
motormonkeyNL 1 year ago
This thing was more of a threat to its own pilot and ground crew than to enemy aircraft.
Leaking C-stoff and T-stoff fuel dissolved human flesh.
agwhitaker 1 year ago
how can a bomber be shut down only with one engine blown up, couldn't they glide with hope, even if an explosion tore off the plane while gliding?
fidan2fast 2 years ago
No, because when an engine gets torn off a bomber, it throws off the weight balance and it causes the bomber to go out of control. Since the bomber is so heavy and it has a huge bomb payload, it would be extremely difficult, if not impossible, to hold it in the air to glide.
ussmissouri63 2 years ago 3
@ussmissouri63 It depend's on how many numbers of engines you have.
MrJohnwarra 1 year ago
@MrJohnwarra yeah but even so, it would still cause a great imbalance of weight
ussmissouri63 1 year ago
one word ... 30mm Kannon.
88Thyra 2 years ago 28
@88Thyra LOL 4 words
fidan2fast 2 years ago
@fidan2fast
no 2 numbers two letters 1 word
gurutuginmapuda 1 year ago
@88Thyra ummm i dont know where you learn to count, but thats not one word...
lrecollet 1 year ago
@88Thyra your perfectly right... the 30mm cannon was a real force to be reckoned with.
WWIIisawesome 1 year ago
@88Thyra That's two words :-)
NOKLifeguardsCorfu 1 year ago
Wings have control surfaces, if those are destroyed the plane goes out of control. And if the hydraulic system is destroyed, the pilot can't control the plane. The Me-163 was armed with big 30mm cannons designed to shoot down even a tough B-17s with only 1 or 2 hits. Bomber crews nickednamed the 30mm cannon the Jackhammer.
RevSyd 2 years ago