MISTHERIA - Piano medley on CME UF70 & TruePianos

[chrisseher]

Musicland Digital caracas official dealer in Venezuela, nice job!! sounds really good, incredible perfomance!!

[Khironification]

ROB SWIRE.

[fedalxis]

Мистхерия лудший!

[StygiaBand]

Superb Playing!

[kitmm]

Just a follow-up on my comment from two months ago -- I ended up opening the case up and descovered that the sticky keys were caused by a poorly fitted aftertouch strip, which the hammers rubbed against. I refitted it myself and now it works great.

But I also discovered that the thing is virtually empty and the vast majority of the weight comes from the thick MDF panel the keys are mounted on.

Also, the thing is so poorly constructed when you see it inside.

Poor work, CME.

[theobs79]

Great playing, and seems a nice controller!

Just want to add that, the piece he is playing from minute 2:00 is not Jeuz Interdits, and by no way it is Anonimous. It is 'Romance Anonimo', by Maestro Rodrigo :) A lovely classical guitar piece.

[Goldfishclown]

Absolute nonsense. The piece predates Rodrigo by about a century, and it isn't called Romance Anonimo for nothing. The composer is at this point unknown.

Rodrigo wrote another famous guitarconcert called Concerto d' Aranjuez, perhaps that confused you.

[theobs79]

Ouch! I don't know what I was thinking about, sorry! You are absolutely right!

I don't know why I had on my head Rodrigo; but anyway, the piece is 'Romance Anonimo', if I'm not mistaken. I don't know what is that 'Jeuz Interdits' piece...

Cheers!

[kitmm]

Yes, lovely playing. Pity that CME have the worst quality control on the planet, at the UF80 I bought a few weeks ago has a multitude of sticking keys and a stiff slider.

DON'T BUY CME until they start checking their products function properly first.

[chuthemaster]

When I first bought my UF-8, some keys did not bounce back properly, and the AC adaptor had some buzz sound.....finally I changed another one, and it's been working fine. If your keyboard has problems, go get one that function properly and you'll have the distinct keyboard playing experience.

[TrorInte]

I wish I could play like that...

[THHK4]

this ok its betta piano vst's

[kstevege]

sounds like an old nintendo 64 emulating a piano

[MaJJ007]

fortunately it's only a controller, so it's up to you what sound will you give to it ...

if he used "nintendo 64 emulating a piano", you can use synthogy ivory or whatever you want ;)

[Nord72]

With ASX or Nanosynth its not only a masterkeyboard with controller capabilities...

[MaJJ007]

Well, try to find ASX or Nanosynth. Absolutely not chance, at least in my country :-/

[THHK4]

lmao

[Doomsday1995]

@kstevege I thought that the nintendo 64 piano emulations sounded pretty nice.. since im not entirely how much it actually synthesizes the music it creates or what is just simply recorded... So did you really look for these -6 ratings or did people just mix up the difference between NES and n64, lol? :D

[andreadepaoli]

bravo Beppe :-)

[glowingblue]

Dexter - Lundy tells Debs this is his Favourite piece by Chopin

[MrJackanthony]

@glowingblue Haha. :)

[TheLostTruckDriver]

It's just the direct sound that you are thinking is artificial sounding. This could have easily been mic'd and mixed so you wouldn't tell the difference all you piano experts.

[john0livetodie]

thats an amazing sound!

it sounds better than some pianos, but nothing like te real one

but this is cheaper and spaceless

[Keitaro333]

yeah but thats because Truepianos are virtually modulated sounds, not samples. (hence its very small, a matter of few megabytes)

With expensive sample libraries of several GBs, it does sound just like the real thing.

[Superphilipp]

That's a UF80, which DOES have hammer action and costs a fair amount more.

And I don't think TruePianos holds up against big piano samplers; it sounds very artificial to me.

[mattedj]

There are deficiencies but few in comparison to Ivory 1.5. Mega processors and memory use and needing RAID 0 to stream without choking. The system tasks on something else(on a quad core mind you) and Ivory starts skipping up. Truepianos 50 MB file and extreme polyphony. Resonance sound awesome, true banging the keys in short bursts and listen. It really is a breakthrough and will lead to something beyond the all sample world. Modeling is the future.

[Superphilipp]

I agree, but right now it isn't there yet.

Also, Akoustik Piano (which I like better than Ivory) runs perfectly on my Celeron 1,6 GHz, 1GB RAM Notebook with the 24 bit samples stored on the internal HD. 150 notes polyphony, full convolution reverb and I have zero chokes with 2ms of latency. And the four pianos that are included are all beautiful and very distinct from each other. For the moment I am happy as can be with NI.

[mattedj]

Agreed, but I personally think there's been a breakthrough...the modeler piano being relatively new. I remember checking out 4front about 1.5 years ago...I was like 'yeah', gotta ways to go. Something good happened in a short time though. The sound quality, in my opinion, is made up by the expressiveness...this is where the breakthrough lies. I bought both Akoustik and Ivory and like Ivory a lot better, 'cept for the resources it uses....I found Akoustik to be thin just didn't pack a punch.

[Superphilipp]

Meh, punchy wasn't what I was after.

[enchentez]

Akoustik Piano sounds great in the bass and the highs, but in the critical middle range it sounds like a damn banjo. It seems to me that TruePianos loses some middle-range "fatness" in its overall sound, which starts to glare when played, say, in ensemble with NI's B4 oragan, but to my ear it sounds a far cry more like a real piano than NIAP, PMI-B290, Steinberg's The Grand, Absolute Piano, Pianoteq, and everything else I have tried.

[Superphilipp]

I had the same reservations about AP, but the preset "Concert Grand with overtones by Olivier" convinced me. That is a beautifully tweaked version of their sampled Steinway, and I find it almost flawless. The Bechstein also grew greatly on me.

[enchentez]

Glad youve found something you like, SP. I just threw on the CGWOBO preset for reference and thats just not a voice I can listen to. I cringe every time I hear the E and G above middle C, especially, on the CG voice; it just sounds sour to my ear. My own subjective impression of course, and not to belittle yours. I got AP after hearing the Rachmaninoff demo on their site, which cleverly avoided the problematic middle octaves. Ive tried a Bosie and AP fails miserably at simming it IMO.Love TP!!

[Superphilipp]

Fair enough.

I don't only ever "use" any artificial piano sounds at all anyway, except for practicing at night, and for layer-like piano chords in pop recordings. For proper singing melodies in either jazz or classical, it just has to be a properly miked piano ... for the playing experience even more so than for the sound. I for one can't improvise solos as comfortably on digital piano substitutes, no matter how good the sound reproduction is.

[zjenas]

let's say synthogy ivory is i very good solution for all this, just check the site, and be amazed, it is really a pain in the ass that they always have to price those things that is way too high... :D

[dmana3172]

I think Truepianos is better than Ivory. you agree?

[ssssroryssss2]

I think it's a little unfair to rate it against a real piano for several reasons. You can't say that "a" piano is better because as we all know, there lots of models outthere. also, when you are listening to a real piano naturally, you aren't hearing it from two speakers. You would have to record the piano then compare the two. I doubt in a heavy mix that most people will be able tell the difference, especially if the mastering engineer turns up the "compressor input gain" or "crap nob".

[Sebbo789]

just bought a UF50 :D hope its Good

[sin2Pi]

Just to be clear here everyone, the CME UF-70 is a midi controller, which means it produces NO sounds, none as in nada.

MISTHERIA is using it to control a software synth "TruePianos" to get that nice piano sound.

Amazing playing by the way.

[mic4rap]

this is world class

[dragon17emailit]

Hey Baron, you have to logon CME website to check out US distributor... ;)

UF70 sounds great! ...don't know about other gear...

[MrJackanthony]

@dragon17emailit Fantastic playing. What module is this?

[dragon17emailit]

@MrJackanthony TruePianos virtual instrument. TruePianos includes multiple modules and offers intuitive control to match your playing style. Check it out: truepianos (dot) com

[MrJackanthony]

@dragon17emailit I know mate. which one of those multiple modules were you using? Because it sounds very all round and I needn't install the others. Cheers

[dragon17emailit]

@MrJackanthony I'm sorry but I cannot remember, years passed. But, usually I use/used the Diamond module, the simpler but also the most versatile. So I would think it was that one...

[MrJackanthony]

@dragon17emailit Alright thank you sir, I suppose you haven't tried the atlantis model and can compare it to the Amber? You should think about uploading a new video (with your improved playing and that) if you have the time. Take care mate, thanks for your help.

[BaronvonCase]

Amazing playing!

I'm thinking of buying this, and I assume from your playing that the key action is very responsive. Because these keyboards are not accessible in the States, I need to ask: which other keyboard or controller does this one feel closest to? Triton/Motif, Fantom, Karma, E-mu X-board? Thanks.

[openebiz]

Of course you can buy CME hardware in the states. Almost all major dealers sell them (or at least can order them)

[BaronvonCase]

No Guitar Center or Sam Ash in the tristate area carries ANY CME products.

And you can only order them in on the contingency that you're buying one, which completely defeats the purpose of auditioning them.

[mrcvxxi]

yamaha use to own/deal cme but have recently quit...does anyone know if the firewire expansion card (uf-400e) for the 1st uf series(ie;uf-5 I have now) works with the uf-50? I know it has an expansion bay and I also know it accepts firewire but I can't find the part number anywhere...I work at guitar center (a distributor of cme)and when I call the vendors they refer me to their techs who refer me to the email...could be a bad sign I suppose. I really want to buy one, meh.

[PeanutButterFender]

Stunning.

[oberjulius]

tocas demasiado bien

[panshine61]

I wish I could play like that. Absolutely gorgeous.