Awesome testimony, praise God! Romans 2: 4 says that the goodness of God leads you to repentance. The Word and The Spirit together bring healing, conviction, and eternal life.
See, that's where Bethel and I differ. You guys are all about the "gifts", I and other Christians are all about the Cross, having our sins forgiven, justification, sanctification etc. When's the last time Bill Johnson or anyone for that matter has preached the Gospel of repentance and faith? They don't, it's secondary to them. They preach a cross-less Jesus. One that says, "you need to be healed". What we need is RIGHTEOUSNESS, not our cancer healed.
Now, can God heal us, absolutely! But God doesn't always heal us and when He does, it's up to Him when He does it. God doesn't need a "healer" to heal someone, He's very capable of doing it Himself just fine, He's God, remember? I run in to people from Bethel all the time around town, never once have they been able to give the Gospel of repentance and faith, they just want to "prophesy" or "heal" you. Treasure hunting is NOT in the Bible! Show me one verse that backs that up, you can't.
God did commission the 12 and the 70 in this way. He does partner with us and commission us to do the works. Matt 10:1 And when he had called unto him his twelve disciples, he gave them power against unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease. (Then he commanded them)
Matt 10:8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give. KJV
So your experience from the students that are on a specific mission should not transfer to the message of Bethel. We have an invitation for salvation through repentance every single Sunday all services. We had over 30 people baptized last month. We do preach repentance, but we also teach what to do once you are saved - the Great Commission.
Check out the messages and don't take all of your references on Bethel from on-the-street experience.
Look, I have heard every podcast for over a year, and not one mention of repentance and faith, ever. They do "alter calls" for healings etc, but not for Salvation. I've been to several services myself and still nothing about repentance and faith. Trust me, I want you to preach the whole Gospel! What's more important, a person get healed or to have their sins forgiven?
Imagine standing before God on judgment day and you say, "but God, I was healed!" What is God going to say? More than likely, "Depart from me, you worker of lawlessness, I never knew you". What we need is Righteousness people at Bethel, not supernatural. You can "heal" somebody all day long but what good is that?
What do you mean by this question? You guys are the ones that send these people out on these so-called "treasure hunts". They learned this at Bethel, and they come from Bethel after they've supposedly heard from the Holy Spirit. If they say they're from Bethel, then why shouldn't I believe this is what they're teaching up there? Most of these people attend your school, this is what they teach, right?
This is unBiblical, the whole thing. From the angel to the so-called "miracle". This is Word Faith garbage. Dude in this video, run! Trust the Bible, not your experience. Test everything in light of Scripture, not feelings.
Tell me, what is the Bible? It is a group of stories about God moving, doing miracles, angels appearing and lives changed. It is a collection of testimonies to the goodness of God.
I have seen Dr. verified reports, X-rays of cancer being healed with prayer. Give God the Glory! He is good!
And what a wonderful God we serve! My question is this, and this question is for Raider, if God didn't heal this woman, then who did? Because, it was either God or Satan. You say the whole Bethel Church ideology is "unbibical." So did Satan heal this woman of her cancer? And if it wasn't Satan, then it must have been God. So if God did heal her, could those who were praying for her and those around her been so confused that they actually believe they are following the Lord, when...
in fact they are not following God. And would a God of love, allow a trick so "evil" to be allowed to be played on people. I mean, Christ does teach healing, and healing is present throughout the Bible. The way I see it is this, sure, one church might not focus on salvation as much as another (not every sermon should be fire and brimstone), but who is to say that this is not of the Lord. So, if we test the spirits, we then find an evil spirit, that brings "God-like" joy to the hears of ....
the people in the video, as well as healing? I think not. This appears to be a work of God, and all praise be to God. I just don't think we should put God in a box. Many things that people believe are actually denominational-based beliefs, and not straight out of the Bible anyway. God bless
EVERYONE who has FAITH should stay out of the hospitals. pray to your god and leave the medicine for people who believe in science.
a talking snake?......give me a break.
JESUStheATHEIST1 9 months ago
I believe in GOD, I believe in the HOLY Spirit. But alot of the cancer's they find in the human body end up being just abnormal growths.
dacaptain84 2 years ago
@dacaptain84 ummm that is the definition of cancer: Abnormal growth!
CEVFashion 1 month ago
Awesome testimony, praise God! Romans 2: 4 says that the goodness of God leads you to repentance. The Word and The Spirit together bring healing, conviction, and eternal life.
steelsfirm 3 years ago
See, that's where Bethel and I differ. You guys are all about the "gifts", I and other Christians are all about the Cross, having our sins forgiven, justification, sanctification etc. When's the last time Bill Johnson or anyone for that matter has preached the Gospel of repentance and faith? They don't, it's secondary to them. They preach a cross-less Jesus. One that says, "you need to be healed". What we need is RIGHTEOUSNESS, not our cancer healed.
raideragent 3 years ago
Now, can God heal us, absolutely! But God doesn't always heal us and when He does, it's up to Him when He does it. God doesn't need a "healer" to heal someone, He's very capable of doing it Himself just fine, He's God, remember? I run in to people from Bethel all the time around town, never once have they been able to give the Gospel of repentance and faith, they just want to "prophesy" or "heal" you. Treasure hunting is NOT in the Bible! Show me one verse that backs that up, you can't.
raideragent 3 years ago
God did commission the 12 and the 70 in this way. He does partner with us and commission us to do the works. Matt 10:1 And when he had called unto him his twelve disciples, he gave them power against unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease. (Then he commanded them)
Matt 10:8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give. KJV
ibetheltv 3 years ago
So your experience from the students that are on a specific mission should not transfer to the message of Bethel. We have an invitation for salvation through repentance every single Sunday all services. We had over 30 people baptized last month. We do preach repentance, but we also teach what to do once you are saved - the Great Commission.
Check out the messages and don't take all of your references on Bethel from on-the-street experience.
Bless you in your walk with Him.
ibetheltv 3 years ago
Look, I have heard every podcast for over a year, and not one mention of repentance and faith, ever. They do "alter calls" for healings etc, but not for Salvation. I've been to several services myself and still nothing about repentance and faith. Trust me, I want you to preach the whole Gospel! What's more important, a person get healed or to have their sins forgiven?
raideragent 3 years ago
Imagine standing before God on judgment day and you say, "but God, I was healed!" What is God going to say? More than likely, "Depart from me, you worker of lawlessness, I never knew you". What we need is Righteousness people at Bethel, not supernatural. You can "heal" somebody all day long but what good is that?
raideragent 3 years ago
When God heals, it brings a revelation of His kindness, and it's His kindness that leads to repentance.
"What's more important, a person get healed or to have their sins forgiven?"
Psalm 103:2-3 Praise the LORD, O my soul, and forget not all his benefits, who forgives all your sins and heals all your diseases.
whizzpopping 2 years ago
What do you mean by this question? You guys are the ones that send these people out on these so-called "treasure hunts". They learned this at Bethel, and they come from Bethel after they've supposedly heard from the Holy Spirit. If they say they're from Bethel, then why shouldn't I believe this is what they're teaching up there? Most of these people attend your school, this is what they teach, right?
raideragent 3 years ago
This is unBiblical, the whole thing. From the angel to the so-called "miracle". This is Word Faith garbage. Dude in this video, run! Trust the Bible, not your experience. Test everything in light of Scripture, not feelings.
raideragent 3 years ago
Tell me, what is the Bible? It is a group of stories about God moving, doing miracles, angels appearing and lives changed. It is a collection of testimonies to the goodness of God.
I have seen Dr. verified reports, X-rays of cancer being healed with prayer. Give God the Glory! He is good!
ibetheltv 3 years ago 2
And what a wonderful God we serve! My question is this, and this question is for Raider, if God didn't heal this woman, then who did? Because, it was either God or Satan. You say the whole Bethel Church ideology is "unbibical." So did Satan heal this woman of her cancer? And if it wasn't Satan, then it must have been God. So if God did heal her, could those who were praying for her and those around her been so confused that they actually believe they are following the Lord, when...
Love4Christ7 3 years ago
in fact they are not following God. And would a God of love, allow a trick so "evil" to be allowed to be played on people. I mean, Christ does teach healing, and healing is present throughout the Bible. The way I see it is this, sure, one church might not focus on salvation as much as another (not every sermon should be fire and brimstone), but who is to say that this is not of the Lord. So, if we test the spirits, we then find an evil spirit, that brings "God-like" joy to the hears of ....
Love4Christ7 3 years ago
the people in the video, as well as healing? I think not. This appears to be a work of God, and all praise be to God. I just don't think we should put God in a box. Many things that people believe are actually denominational-based beliefs, and not straight out of the Bible anyway. God bless
Love4Christ7 3 years ago
Romans 14:17 "For the kingdom of God is ... righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit."
I trust the bible, so I think I trust a lot in my peace and joy!
whizzpopping 2 years ago