I have a question. I realize scientology does not really include theology - no deity they worship - but do you think that maybe there are people within it that still secretly practice other religions or worship God? Can you get in trouble in Scientology for worshiping?
Tory, the day the COS lost you they lost their soul. To mark you a suppressible person is ludicrous! You are bright, fun and incredibly perceptive and I'm sure that is why they (COS) used you the way they did (to counter critics on line)! I hope you manage to get all the stragglers to finally leave! Tt will be Miscaviage, the authorities and his crimes! I also feel terribly sorry for anyone who spent time on the asbestos death ship - there is a lot of Mesothelioma cancer in their future!
" I literally escaped OUT tomorrow, 11 years ago: July 22, 2000. OH MYGAWD!!! !
A Great day for you and Humanity, and by Kharma a 'bad' day for the Church, a really , really bad day, little did they know then HOW bad a day that was for them!!!
So very eloquent Tory.. As a person that has leaped from a proverbial cliff, I can relate. I am mind full of the weak people around me that are living in fear and hope that I can reach them as you have reached so many. Maholo and Aloha.
Thanks to Amy and you I give Mike and Marty the benefit of the doubt. There is one thing I hope that could be explained to me. I know most if not all of the CO$ members that blew CO$ departed withonly the clothes on their back. It appears Mike and Marty seem to be doing very well and I see a red flag.
P.S. the other question I have asked over and over style is the past life recollection, can you say anything about that? Thank you again for all your information and honesty, I love you!
@scilonschools Thank you, scilionschools!!! I greatly appreciate you saying that. I feel *great* and I literally escaped OUT tomorrow, 11 years ago: July 22, 2000. OH MYGAWD!!! Giant HUGS :) Tory/Magoo
Do you think this fear of many of the people remaining in the CO$ could be the fear of the world outside of the CO$? Some of these people no longer have family, friends, credit, or savings and a plate of beans and rice at Gold Base is at least according to them is better then nothing?
@toucan780 ahhhhh BS::: *I* lost E V E R Y T H I N G (except one KEY person, my son) OVER Night.
ALLLLLLLLLLL of my friends, my husband of 27 years, everything I believed in, for me, even the critics
all (mostly) turned against me, all saying, "She woke up too fast, she must be an OSA Op" I went from THE
top.........to lower than the bottom. Freedom or Stick your head in the ground, KNOWING it's a gigantic phony Front? COME ON. There are *tons* of people that will help you. Make the Leap!~
Yea, a great example of that is how they kept promising Michael P "the cure" will happen at the next level and when he reached OT8 still gay, it was all his fault for being gay. LOLOLOL
Nice vid, it makes sense on the part of ppl not leaving because of there friends. I had an instructor always tell me we shouldn't talk to anyone that isn't a Scientologist. Since, watching your vid it kinda seem's like she was teaching us to hate and it kind of reminds me of racism. Glad I am no longer in that enviorment and I can be with good ppl that don't preach bs.
@ParisSparkling333 Paris: That is SO true::: Scientology does, by telling people not to speak to other people, they create their own racism. My Dad used to tell me as a kid: "Tory, as long as people will sit down at the table with you, they're fine, whether you agree or not. The ONLY people who won't, are basically bullies who don't care about you at all, so don't worry about them". Scientology grooms people into being bullies. Great job on you, Paris, for getting away from that!! :)
Amazing. A big win for getting out was being able to go where you want and talk to whoever you want. Funny how we on the outside take those things for granted.
@pedrofcuk I joined before that "rule" of "no LSD" is allowed into the SO. Many of the Sea Org members "in" (my age or older) did LSD and joined pre-this "rule". :)
@ToryMagoo44 Thanks Tory :) you do realise they will probably blame all you pre-LSD rule SO people for the ultimate failure of the cult even tho you're probably all out now? lol
@pedrofcuk Ahhhhhhhh who cares who those knuckleheads blame. They'll blame people forever--that IS what they do. And they call that "Taking responsibility" and "Ethical" when *nothing* could be farther from the truth. You see them for who they are. "Church"? MY ASS. Love to you and all :)
@pedrofcuk I'm not sure if this is fact, but if you read ''Inside $cientology'' by Janet Reitman you see how heavily the Cult of $cientology depended on the idealistic (drug using) hippie youngsters of the sixties. I believe Tory even mentioned a couple of times of how she wanted to be a hippie before she became a $cientologist:-p
It's pretty interesting because the idealistic youth of today is actually a big part of Anonymous. The cult pretty much alienated the people they used to rely on!
@LRonAnonymous Not "wanted to be a hippie"...........I ~was~ a Hippie, lived right off of Haight and Ashbury in SF in the late 60's. It was a wild time, and yes, I'm happy I was there, then! Very true, the Scientology Cult *did* alienate not only the youth,but they killed the Mission Network, which was *totally* responsible for getting new people "in". Great for us, very, very bad for them. Just go LOOK at your local, empty Scio "Org". :)
@ToryMagoo44 Lol, so true. My 'local org' (the only one in the country) is basicly a big building of which only the first and second floor are used (the lights on the other floors are NEVER on) and the first floor is just a bookshop...
Note to viewers:::$cientology is now contacting people who LEFT 20-30 y e a r s ago,
and one of them called me, last night, who had gotten suckered "in". So PLEASE...If you see this, Do NOT give them ANY money until you read info on the Net. I've made many videos, check out xentutv (dot) com or xenu *dot) net for starters. There is literally TONS of FACTS here on the Net. ((And don't buy $cientology's "It's all bad on the Net). Thanks ALL for your comments!!! :) :) TLC
Astral Projection is neither bad nor dangerous if done properly. Astral Projection is real and for those who can do it, is a wonderful experience. How to do it? There are hundreds, maybe even thousands of ways to accomplish it. Sex, Meditation and having an ecstatic time are just three. Research it, try it and you'll love it once you've got it right. But as Paul Simon once said: “All lies and jests, still, a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.” A closed mind is a blind mind.
There's no doubt about it, Scientology probably has some good features; sugar to attract the flies. But everything I've read about Scientology suggests that its current views reflect the fantasies and paranoid beliefs of its founder, Hubbard. Miscavige might be a real creep, but Scientology probably would have come to this no matter who replaced Hubbard.
Supposedly, the drug ketamine can induce the feeling of exteriorization. I am not advocating drug abuse. Have most of us had "exterior" or transcendental experiences ? If you're an adult, probably so. It might be a religious experience, an orgasm with your lover, finishing a huge project, or any of a million other things. This sort of thing is not unique to Scientology.
R2-45: AN ENORMOUSLY EFFECTIVE PROCESS FOR EXTERIORIZATION BUT ITS USE IS FROWNED UPON BY THIS SOCIETY AT THIS TIME. ”
L. Ron Hubbard, The Creation of Human Ability (page 54.)
Google: R2-45
"R2-45 is a Scientology auditing process created by L. Ron Hubbard. The process of R2-45 specifically pertains to shooting the target with a Colt .45 pistol, causing the victim's "thetan" to leave the body (exteriorization).
there are many ways to induce out-of-body experiences. But to faraway places with full senses? no.
You can have your consciousness like 20 centimetres above your head or to the left of your head, or in your chest, with full senses. But whats the point in that?
also, it can now be induced using technology (real technology, not the scientology tech-nonsense). Two different ways, leading to two different kinds of that experience: watch?v=8oF8sQvnTlM watch?v=nCVzz96zKA0
You know Tory one thing I can say at least at the DC Org is there is not only a lack of new blood but a lack young blood. From what I see in other videos other than second generation folks I don't see 20 somethings in the Orgs. They look like they are all late 30's to early 50's.
You're so right Tory, for probably the last three years or more that I called myself a Scientologist I was already elsewhere in my mind. I knew that what I signed up for years before wasn't what I was getting or what I had hoped for. I knew that it was only a matter of time before I walked away for good. But it took years of living like, on the edge of freedom, to let go of fear and get out. I hope that others find their way out more quickly now that the bad press is becoming so relentless.
Freedom suits you Tory,you look great! My family is full of lunatics that drive me batshit crazy but they're my lunatics. Family and friend disconnections are cruel! Eff $cientology!
There are still people who are "fence sitters" about this nutty cult? Unbelievable.
TheBrandyBaker 7 months ago
I have a question. I realize scientology does not really include theology - no deity they worship - but do you think that maybe there are people within it that still secretly practice other religions or worship God? Can you get in trouble in Scientology for worshiping?
whitneyerin222 7 months ago
faved
inspirediam 7 months ago
Maddenly honest and forthright. One of your best.
irchristo 7 months ago
GO TORY!! YOU KICK ASS!! XD
GirtheAlienGoldfish 7 months ago
Tory, the day the COS lost you they lost their soul. To mark you a suppressible person is ludicrous! You are bright, fun and incredibly perceptive and I'm sure that is why they (COS) used you the way they did (to counter critics on line)! I hope you manage to get all the stragglers to finally leave! Tt will be Miscaviage, the authorities and his crimes! I also feel terribly sorry for anyone who spent time on the asbestos death ship - there is a lot of Mesothelioma cancer in their future!
AmericanGayAtheist 7 months ago
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@TORY
" I literally escaped OUT tomorrow, 11 years ago: July 22, 2000. OH MYGAWD!!! !
A Great day for you and Humanity, and by Kharma a 'bad' day for the Church, a really , really bad day, little did they know then HOW bad a day that was for them!!!
scilonschools 7 months ago
So very eloquent Tory.. As a person that has leaped from a proverbial cliff, I can relate. I am mind full of the weak people around me that are living in fear and hope that I can reach them as you have reached so many. Maholo and Aloha.
tycovai 7 months ago
@TellyBumsquat You are welcome :)! And yes, Tory rules, so honest and open, a tribute to what a human being should be.
eulerpwnzgauss 7 months ago
Thanks to Amy and you I give Mike and Marty the benefit of the doubt. There is one thing I hope that could be explained to me. I know most if not all of the CO$ members that blew CO$ departed withonly the clothes on their back. It appears Mike and Marty seem to be doing very well and I see a red flag.
Did they blow under different circumstancers?
toucan780 7 months ago
P.S. the other question I have asked over and over style is the past life recollection, can you say anything about that? Thank you again for all your information and honesty, I love you!
eulerpwnzgauss 7 months ago
WOW! Great vid Tory! Good subject to approach and speak about. You do look happy and content. Keep on rockin' in the free world!
MARYBLEUZ 7 months ago
OMG! I am the over and over asker!!!!! Thank you Tory, you are truly Beautiful.
eulerpwnzgauss 7 months ago
Tory youy look Hotter everyday!!
Take Care and keep going
XXX
scilonschools 7 months ago 2
@scilonschools Thank you, scilionschools!!! I greatly appreciate you saying that. I feel *great* and I literally escaped OUT tomorrow, 11 years ago: July 22, 2000. OH MYGAWD!!! Giant HUGS :) Tory/Magoo
ToryMagoo44 7 months ago
Do you think this fear of many of the people remaining in the CO$ could be the fear of the world outside of the CO$? Some of these people no longer have family, friends, credit, or savings and a plate of beans and rice at Gold Base is at least according to them is better then nothing?
toucan780 7 months ago
@toucan780 ahhhhh BS::: *I* lost E V E R Y T H I N G (except one KEY person, my son) OVER Night.
ALLLLLLLLLLL of my friends, my husband of 27 years, everything I believed in, for me, even the critics
all (mostly) turned against me, all saying, "She woke up too fast, she must be an OSA Op" I went from THE
top.........to lower than the bottom. Freedom or Stick your head in the ground, KNOWING it's a gigantic phony Front? COME ON. There are *tons* of people that will help you. Make the Leap!~
ToryMagoo44 7 months ago
Yea, a great example of that is how they kept promising Michael P "the cure" will happen at the next level and when he reached OT8 still gay, it was all his fault for being gay. LOLOLOL
pedrofcuk 7 months ago
Nice vid, it makes sense on the part of ppl not leaving because of there friends. I had an instructor always tell me we shouldn't talk to anyone that isn't a Scientologist. Since, watching your vid it kinda seem's like she was teaching us to hate and it kind of reminds me of racism. Glad I am no longer in that enviorment and I can be with good ppl that don't preach bs.
ParisSparkling333 7 months ago
@ParisSparkling333 Paris: That is SO true::: Scientology does, by telling people not to speak to other people, they create their own racism. My Dad used to tell me as a kid: "Tory, as long as people will sit down at the table with you, they're fine, whether you agree or not. The ONLY people who won't, are basically bullies who don't care about you at all, so don't worry about them". Scientology grooms people into being bullies. Great job on you, Paris, for getting away from that!! :)
ToryMagoo44 7 months ago
Amazing. A big win for getting out was being able to go where you want and talk to whoever you want. Funny how we on the outside take those things for granted.
voyzovrezon 7 months ago
@voyzovrezon Exactly!!!! soooooooooooo true :)
ToryMagoo44 7 months ago
Er... if you did LSD how come they let you into the SO?
pedrofcuk 7 months ago
@pedrofcuk I joined before that "rule" of "no LSD" is allowed into the SO. Many of the Sea Org members "in" (my age or older) did LSD and joined pre-this "rule". :)
ToryMagoo44 7 months ago
@ToryMagoo44 Thanks Tory :) you do realise they will probably blame all you pre-LSD rule SO people for the ultimate failure of the cult even tho you're probably all out now? lol
pedrofcuk 7 months ago
@pedrofcuk Ahhhhhhhh who cares who those knuckleheads blame. They'll blame people forever--that IS what they do. And they call that "Taking responsibility" and "Ethical" when *nothing* could be farther from the truth. You see them for who they are. "Church"? MY ASS. Love to you and all :)
ToryMagoo44 7 months ago
@pedrofcuk I'm not sure if this is fact, but if you read ''Inside $cientology'' by Janet Reitman you see how heavily the Cult of $cientology depended on the idealistic (drug using) hippie youngsters of the sixties. I believe Tory even mentioned a couple of times of how she wanted to be a hippie before she became a $cientologist:-p
It's pretty interesting because the idealistic youth of today is actually a big part of Anonymous. The cult pretty much alienated the people they used to rely on!
LRonAnonymous 7 months ago
@LRonAnonymous Not "wanted to be a hippie"...........I ~was~ a Hippie, lived right off of Haight and Ashbury in SF in the late 60's. It was a wild time, and yes, I'm happy I was there, then! Very true, the Scientology Cult *did* alienate not only the youth,but they killed the Mission Network, which was *totally* responsible for getting new people "in". Great for us, very, very bad for them. Just go LOOK at your local, empty Scio "Org". :)
ToryMagoo44 7 months ago
@ToryMagoo44 Lol, so true. My 'local org' (the only one in the country) is basicly a big building of which only the first and second floor are used (the lights on the other floors are NEVER on) and the first floor is just a bookshop...
LRonAnonymous 7 months ago
tl;dr
LSD is good if done with the right people in the right environment
$cilon fence sitters: you got to get some balls, man
Tory is awesome
EnturbulationStation 7 months ago
Thanks Tory. The scientologists still in are applying self-justification. The money and years spent can't be for nothing.
Chipshotz 7 months ago
Note to viewers:::$cientology is now contacting people who LEFT 20-30 y e a r s ago,
and one of them called me, last night, who had gotten suckered "in". So PLEASE...If you see this, Do NOT give them ANY money until you read info on the Net. I've made many videos, check out xentutv (dot) com or xenu *dot) net for starters. There is literally TONS of FACTS here on the Net. ((And don't buy $cientology's "It's all bad on the Net). Thanks ALL for your comments!!! :) :) TLC
ToryMagoo44 7 months ago
Actually,you jumped off a 1000 foot Bridge.
russwelday 7 months ago
@russwelday - Right, she jumped off the "Bridge to total slavery" into the "ocean of total freedom" .. ;0)
gombis666 7 months ago
Astral Projection is neither bad nor dangerous if done properly. Astral Projection is real and for those who can do it, is a wonderful experience. How to do it? There are hundreds, maybe even thousands of ways to accomplish it. Sex, Meditation and having an ecstatic time are just three. Research it, try it and you'll love it once you've got it right. But as Paul Simon once said: “All lies and jests, still, a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.” A closed mind is a blind mind.
CahanTiarnan 7 months ago
exteriorization with full perception sounds a lot like astral projection to me. very dangerous.
Fil0girl 7 months ago
my god scientology is a cult is a no brainer. but what you doin tory? :D
kumarillo1 7 months ago
There's no doubt about it, Scientology probably has some good features; sugar to attract the flies. But everything I've read about Scientology suggests that its current views reflect the fantasies and paranoid beliefs of its founder, Hubbard. Miscavige might be a real creep, but Scientology probably would have come to this no matter who replaced Hubbard.
upsilon054 7 months ago
Supposedly, the drug ketamine can induce the feeling of exteriorization. I am not advocating drug abuse. Have most of us had "exterior" or transcendental experiences ? If you're an adult, probably so. It might be a religious experience, an orgasm with your lover, finishing a huge project, or any of a million other things. This sort of thing is not unique to Scientology.
upsilon054 7 months ago
R2-45: AN ENORMOUSLY EFFECTIVE PROCESS FOR EXTERIORIZATION BUT ITS USE IS FROWNED UPON BY THIS SOCIETY AT THIS TIME. ”
L. Ron Hubbard, The Creation of Human Ability (page 54.)
Google: R2-45
"R2-45 is a Scientology auditing process created by L. Ron Hubbard. The process of R2-45 specifically pertains to shooting the target with a Colt .45 pistol, causing the victim's "thetan" to leave the body (exteriorization).
Orffanon 7 months ago
there are many ways to induce out-of-body experiences. But to faraway places with full senses? no.
You can have your consciousness like 20 centimetres above your head or to the left of your head, or in your chest, with full senses. But whats the point in that?
also, it can now be induced using technology (real technology, not the scientology tech-nonsense). Two different ways, leading to two different kinds of that experience: watch?v=8oF8sQvnTlM watch?v=nCVzz96zKA0
kurtilein3 7 months ago
You know Tory one thing I can say at least at the DC Org is there is not only a lack of new blood but a lack young blood. From what I see in other videos other than second generation folks I don't see 20 somethings in the Orgs. They look like they are all late 30's to early 50's.
RadioPaul1 7 months ago
I call it a cult.
97Grimsta 7 months ago
You're so right Tory, for probably the last three years or more that I called myself a Scientologist I was already elsewhere in my mind. I knew that what I signed up for years before wasn't what I was getting or what I had hoped for. I knew that it was only a matter of time before I walked away for good. But it took years of living like, on the edge of freedom, to let go of fear and get out. I hope that others find their way out more quickly now that the bad press is becoming so relentless.
bagelboi66 7 months ago
Love that shirt.
bamboo4tameshigiri 7 months ago
Nice video Miss Happy.
Hugs
mrgreebly 7 months ago
Freedom suits you Tory,you look great! My family is full of lunatics that drive me batshit crazy but they're my lunatics. Family and friend disconnections are cruel! Eff $cientology!
AnonymousPrettySP 7 months ago
I think you're great, Tory. You say it like it is.
Ladibela 7 months ago
Ha, first like!...Great Video Tory. This is one of your best. FEAR the COB :-) ass wipe.
mrcell61 7 months ago
Ha, first comment...! Cheers Tory I love your vids :)
tomorrowstruth 7 months ago
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tomorrowstruth 7 months ago