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[chrisbary]

thanks MT!

[SovietSR71]

GomTV! aw yea bring back Tasteless!

[AznAristotle]

I was hoping mt was asian. =.=

[LordLoss8]

savior and upmagic, god why? the rest i dun care BUT SAVIOR?!

[yeeerk]

@test

[weemsweems]

Clearly dragoons must poop.

[Th3Sh1n1gam1]

so then... Firebathero's dance on Savior isn't as disrespectful as we thought then right? lol, cause savior kinda deserves it then, lol

[antiunis]

i saw moletrap and he is not asian :DD

[fathomthisss]

What? No more MSL/OSL/proleague?

Fuck

[Wogrim]

They actually added a week to SC2 Beta before the temporary shutdown.

I heard the gomtv thing was for exclusive rights to all blizzard games, not just sc2.

[jie900]

Hehe yo i hear the irony in your comment, but for everyone who might not: It's Nal-Ra, he's asian :-D

Match-fixing is yet another form of corruption. I resent that. But even more i hate the idea of betting on anything, e-Sports, regular Sports, Casino-games, the Stock-Market...

You are either playing with the same chances and knowledge as everyone else and thus have no better chance of winning; OR you have insider knowledge which will be punished if discovered in ANY of the above disciplines

[tymyor]

But seriously it appears to me very possible that Flash might be involved as well. I think not many players can beat him when he plays standart, and he is really sometimes throwing away games like the finals of the OSL like it were on purpose. Very sad for the E-sport. -.-

And probably Hyuk is the best player in the world but he gets very very well payed to throw all his games away haha!!!11oneone ;D

[jackface0410]

@tymyor Flash's terminator face makes that impossible. Plus the kid's a boyscout who gives all his money to his parents to manage.

[moletrap]

@whatevera Don't make it that easy for them :)

[98989898787878]

hey moletrap, i read that its all blizzard games including wow, wc3, and bw and sc2 than gom has the right to

[jie900]

omg seriously? even if it were only SC2: Blizzard is shoveling their own grave excluding OGN and MBC. Also, its stupid of Blizzard to end the beta in 2 days (and i hope they reconsider), because there are sooo many bugs with Patch 13. Patch 13 makes me (and many others) crash or drop 9 out of 10 games!

[jie900]

@jie900 was in response to user 98989898787878 who posted that its "all blizzard games including wow, wc3, and bw and sc2"

[BarrellyRoll]

flash is probably going to win because he is a beast. jaedong has a good chance tho because he's a pretty nice beast as well.

[patatepowa]

u are so broke lol

[OMFGHIPPO]

...well we can do a proleague finals hopefully

[lazomaniac]

im so sad about the match fixing :(

[aaronhedberg]

so THATS why savior wasn't kicking butt like he used to.

[EeXen]

I'm sure that a lot of people that watch your channel would be very willing to pitch in to help support your commentating. Put that donation box up.

[moletrap]

@EeXen It's in my channel description.

[VacuousTerminus]

Wow fuck savior.

[benbradenstein]

@moletrap so your not doing the msl?

do you know who is?

[WarpBerlin]

@benbradenstein

RanshinDA

[yoman632]

get a job... flip some burgers.

[galeitiaa]

moletrap wut do u look like? have u ever shown ur face on utube?

[krueppelkind]

is there a commented live stream for tomorrow/ today?

[nuRLE]

Do triple commentary with cholera and diggity!!!!!!!

[shoutenry]

Savior: I'll destroy MYSELF in 2009!

[shoutenry]

I LOVE YOU MOLETrAp!!!

[maclohan1]

Man, I was so choked when I found out that UpMagic was fixing games. I loved that guy. :(

[zenartanis]

Y did you put a picture of nal_ra up, while speaking of the betting scandal?

[moletrap]

@zenartanis Cuz I mentioned his show... and also because his face is like "WTF!" and that's how I felt about the scandal.

[henrik1291]

The broadcasting rights were not just for sc2. Kespa no longer has the right to broadcast Brood War after August! Neither does OGN/MBC unless they negotiate a deal with GomTV!

[henrik1291]

In more positive news however the next MSL already has a sponsor, so the professional BW scene isn't completely screwed

[henrik1291]

Dude are you kidding me? On the Oldboy series go.go was hilarious. He was just awesome. I never really liked go.go before, but after that episode I was really sad that go.go was involved in the scandal. T_T

[wangstick]

....There is a reality show about starcraft progamers?

[rhodric]

gogo was a dick in oldboy

[Klamev]

Moletrap you did not get it.

They gave GOM TV EXCLUSIVE rights for EVERY Blizzard game INCLUDING BroodWar!

[staplerjm]

@Klamev actually he mentioned that near the end. Why would you comment that without watching the whole video

[j0e2]

my offer for good ram and brand new sata dvd burner still stands

[Animus45]

I don't know how I feel about the betting scandal. My limited knowledge tells me the Korean Professional Starcraft scene based not on the enjoyment of the game, but on profit for sponsors and networks. Starcraft players also don't really have a future income via progaming, most will be around for maybe a few more years tops, then what? They're kind of exploiting the exploiters in a way. On the other hand it sucks for all the other players who will be negatively affected.

[kanard6d]

Speak louder

[Lunji]

from the thumbnail i thought that picture was gonna be of moletrap :(

[BonzaiR33]

keep doing BW instead, much more awesome!

[Aeiouv1]

upmagic was my favorite player :<<

[forioh]

look for video cards or any other component you need on tigerdirect(dot)com. with the nvidia fermi's recently coming out all of the prices of previously "high end" graphics cards have been driven down quite a bit. Like the GTX 260 OC for $179 or GTX $114. Both should be sufficient for SC2

[Leidenspfad]

Wow, the Kespa/Blizzard "beef" is quite interesting, and I think many have foreseen that. I really like the cooperation between Blizzard and GomTV. Kespa is a company that did much for the sport, but it's also a company you learned to hate abit. On the other hand, GomTV have always had a more fan interest friendly approach, rather than having huge conrol over the e-sports market in Korea and is much more accessable for the foreign audiences. There will be interesting changes in korean e-sports.

[larzarus1234]

Savior destroyed his legacy in 2010.

:=/

[Inzane2u]

the broadcast right contract with GOM.tv involes all blizzard games, not just sc2. so no more OSL, MSL or proleague :S

[davidr64yt]

Hi. I'm the dude who made the comment that appears in the start of this video. Thumb this up if you don't give a crap and think I should stfu. Thanks.

[ModeLTU]

@davidr64yt You're pretty awesome for that :P

[Nostalgamagic]

@davidr64yt You just told it like it is and exposed your bromance level. Judging from the amount of thumbs up on that comment it's basically how most of the subscribers feel.

[moletrap]

@davidr64yt lol that was one of my favorite comments ever, man

[pbisaI]

I'm pretty sure blizzard sold the right to wc3 and broodwar to GOM too. Apparenly in August, after PL, Kespa is not aloud to broadcast broodwar games without GOM tv's approval.

[Dec0o]

SC2 NEEDS MOLETRAP.

HD AND HUSKY SUCK

ALSO, CAPS

[B12adSC]

@Dec0o GrethSC is good.

[Nostalgamagic]

Interesting about Kespa vs. Blizzard, keep us posted. I don't like the sound of it.

[jackface0410]

Who here was honestly surprised the twins were match fixers? They have the same goddamn smarmy grin every time they lose games, like they don't care.

[legionairreDL]

@jackface0410 Uh... No, they don't...

[jackface0410]

The preview thumbnail for this video.. "Holy shit, Moletrap's Asian?"

[Nostalgamagic]

@jackface0410 Like that first time HDstarcraft showed his face. "Yes, that's right, I'm Asian!"

Queue comments like "No wonder you keep winning over Husky."

[TwiSm69]

BIRTHS DESPAIR!! DOOM FINDS GLOOM!! hahahahahhahahahah

[mastergd]

pretty happy about the gomtv stuff. always liked watching their live broadcasts.

[chokeself]

OSL final was Effort vs Flash, not Jaedong :) Thanks for all of the informations and links, cheers.

[moletrap]

@chokeself MSL Finals is Flash vs Jaedong.

[chokeself]

@moletrap yeah, my mistake, I misheard "IF YOU MISSED jaedong vs effort finals for the OSL"

[MrAndersonmm]

@moletrap Yes, but you said to go watch the OSL finals between Jaedong and Effort on Violatek, that's what he was saying.

Thanks for the update!

[asdfgoogle]

Rights to broadcast? Is that referring to ONLY Korea and TV broadcasting? Internet broadcasting/streaming? In the US?

[moletrap]

@asdfgoogle Dunno yet.

[wh0racle3]

@moletrap moletrap, what it means is that if Kespa wants to broadcast Starcraft, they have to pay money to GOMtv. and from what I read it sounded like it was ALL blizzard games not just sc2.

[Spanky00Cheeks]

@moletrap

Who is the asian dude in the middle of the vid? You or one of the other commentators? I don't recognize him...

[ceridan01]

lol gomtv brodcasting sc2 but not kespa. That's something I didn't know.

suprise suprise.

Wonder if tasteless is going to go back to gom now.

[whatevera]

it's not just SC2 games that kespa cant cast but ALL Blizzard games.

[rillel89]

Wait a second. Blizzard makes SC2 yes, but rights to broadcast? They've sold the game, whether or not someone broadcasts it is not within their rights imo.

This is not like TV-rights. They're not directors and actors making the final product (tv program) and sellings rights to broadcast, they're making a game. Any tournaments ect is completely out of Blizzards hands, and if the makers of the tournament choose to broadcast it it's their right.

[Nostalgamagic]

@rillel89 The Terms of Agreement may state otherwise. No one reads those, but who knows? Anyway, people are making money off broadcasting their games, so it's not too farfetched that they can stop them from broadcasting.

[rillel89]

@Nostalgamagic Making money off something you made, but has nothing further to do with you it not farfetched at all.

The manufacturers of footballs doesn't get a cut from all the football tournaments in the world. The talents is in the players and the clubs.

Blizzard put absolutely NO effort into tournaments. All the work and talent is not Blizzards doing. They basically just want free money, which is why I'm against it.

[razno212]

NOoooooooo Upmagic =(((

[korwinblue]

Why sAviOr and YellOw? :( Hwasin too! My heart is broken.

[moletrap]

@korwinblue Yellow ArnC btw.

[rbrtchng]

What people are forgetting about some asian cultures, especially in gambling and corruption. It's most often not the players' intention to cheat or throw games. Usually, big illegal betting gangs would threaten the players offstage to take the bribes and cooperate. I doubt all these players would take such measly amount of money to throw games. There probably is violence and gang related threats involved.

[Nostalgamagic]

@rbrtchng How much money are we talking about here? I haven't seen any numbers.

And with SaviOr exposed as some kind of ringleader I think we need to remind people about this video: watch?v=LdzjrzN73Og

[rbrtchng]

@Nostalgamagic In the link provided to teamliquid, it says "2~6.5 million won ($2k~6.5k)." Yeah, $2k total to throw all those matches and risk their entire career and E-sport as a whole is not worth it to me.

[thelovebat]

I guess I'm just shocked in a way to find out that some of them were sellouts.

[thelovebat]

Holy crap. I did not know about the scandel, but I thought that asians had a better code of honor than us about this stuff. And I thought that korean pro gamers were making enough money already, well I guess not apparently. Really dissapointing, but thanks for bringing it up moletrap.

[jackface0410]

@thelovebat I don't blame most of these guys. Pro gamers earn a lot less than you think esp if they're not in a high-rolling team like SK or KT, and once they reach mid 20s/Military service, their careers are over. Plus many support their families. If someone offered a guy 6 grand to toss a couple games, I'm not surprised at all some went for it.

[thelovebat]

@jackface0410 Most families would probably scoff at them and be more than frustrated for doing something as bad as cheating, no matter what the reason. Its the principle my man. I wouldn't feel very good about knowing someone was providing for the family by cheating. What happens once their career is over and they can't support their families by cheating or throwing matches? Catch 22.

[FlammableSteve]

what the hell does 'opening of delicious wetness' mean?