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  • A more fair would be...

    Ming Warrior - Iron shield or rattan shield (which actually deflects gun fire, this is proven when Koxinga defeated the Dutch in Fort Zeelandia), a real Dao meant for battle and not martial arts, coat of plates armour instead of leather, and a musket (the Ming used them in volleys similar to Europeans).

  • @Ravensteinzh I agree those weren't the Ming optimal conditions, but I would have liked to see Ming Warriors vs Spanish Conquistadores, that would have been more fair and exciting at the same time.

  • Let's leave the French cowardice aside for a second - this is biased and complete crap!

    The Ming weapons are indeed Chinese, but the Rapier and Wheellock Pistol were Italian, not French. The Chinese weapons were also meant for long range, the French have been given close range weapons. Lastly, the Dao is a slashing sabre, inferior to a thrusting Rapier - Which, again, isn't even French! This is completely stacked against the Chinese, I'm 100% certain I know who will "win".

  • @SpadaccinoLuciano But dude, it doesn't matter where the weapon comes from, but who used it insted, if we apply your premise, then no one except chinese would be able to use Gunpowder.

  • @Dagsschiller Im sure there were French daggers they could use.

  • @SpadaccinoLuciano But the point is that French Musketeers used rapiers, some of the most iconic weapons warriors used, were not even national (eg. Vlad-Turkish Kilij, Romans-Gladius Hispaniensis, Green Berets-Benelli Shotgun, etc...), French Musketeer didn't use french daggers, they killed many enemies with the Rapier, that why the have it.

  • lol dude savate for sure dont have more powerful kicks than muay thai ;d because dude thailand dudes break trees with kick i want to see french guy to do that....

  • WTF THE CHINESE HAD MARTIAL ARTS? SOMEBODY HAS NEVER HEARD OF SAVATE (POSSIBLY MORE POWERFUL KICKS THAN MUAY THAI), WESTERN BOXING AND PANKRATION GRAPPLING (ALL OF WHICH A MUSKETEER WOULD KNOW)

  • @DamienNeverwinter

    lol muay thai isnt chinese...... neither is it effective

    authentic chinese martial arts are more dominant than western boxing and western arts

    Yip Man, Hou yuanjia, qin shi huangdi all beat the shit out of westerners and other martial arts with thier bear hands.... TOP western fighters

  • @DamienNeverwinter Dude I think you exagerated a little, Musketeers knew neither boxing, nor Pankration, nor Savate (Savate appeared on 19th century), they used a wrestling-like martial art to fight with dagger and unarmed.

  • @Dagsschiller Boxing was well known and practiced all over Europe since medival times, as were kicking techniques often incorporated into swordfighting styles, particularly in France.European wrestling is also centuries old and developed from Pankration and was practiced earlier than the Crusades.

  • @DamienNeverwinter I agree dude, but Boxing was not very popular among the nobles (which include French musketeers), kicking techniques are not the same as Savate, in sword-fighting, kicking is very secondary, since you don't want your leg choped off, and Pankration was not as popular in Western Europe, not as popular in the nobility and not as popular in the 17th century, Boxing and Pankration had a revival in the 19th century, and Savate didn't existed before.

  • Muskets vs Nest of Bees? They have very different purposes. The former is a primary armament meant to kill one person at medium range (or a group with volley fire). The latter is an area effect weapon meant to be fired into closely packed formations at long range. I doubt one would ever use a Nest of Bees for squad combat.

    Pray tell, why not use the Ming's own muskets to see how they compare.

  • @CobaltX07 i agree the Nest Of Bees Shoulda been used vs. a blunderbuss or something

  • @CobaltX07 totally agree dude, I don't like when they use those kindda weapons, I mean a Scorpion? a Ballista? a Nest of Bees? on a 5 on 5 or 1 on 1, It's just dumb.

  • this is all scripted to dont fken worry xD

  • The Chinese dude with the American accent is so fucking annoying...

  • anyway no doubt than the ming was stronger

  • @aa3gunner mongol lose 3 battle of horms aigaint the arabs and we win many times aigaint them...

  • Lol dude people commenting here is so fucking stupid... The show is for entertainment you won't even know who would really win a battle.... In a real battle it's like 1,000 Musketeer versus 1.5 million Ming soldiers, imagine 1,000 soldiers carried the Bee's nest, thats 32,000 arrows flying at your weak French army....

  • the experts in this show are always annoying, far too bias. also running a single weapons test isn't statistically significant individually or comparatively, doing that nest of bees again could get 100% accuracy

  • once again its western skill and technology vs. eastern stupidity and sticks

  • @serialkillerwhale the musketeers were around a couple of hundred years after the ming warriors so obviously they were more technologically advanced

  • @serialkillerwhale The Chinese invented guns, cannons, bombs, and rockets in the Middle Ages (around 1100-1200 AD). Where were the Europeans then? Jousting Knights on horseback? The Mongols used Chinese weapons at

    The Battle of Legnica (April 9, 1241)

    Knights Teutonic

    Knights Templar

    Knights Hospitalier

    Allied Polish States

    holy Roman Empire

    vs

    Mongols

    RESULT: Mongol Victory.

  • Fuck France.

  • the chink is like 17 and hes like fuck u french men

  • I must say, those fruits really surprised me!

  • That younger chinese guy is such an arrogant, disrespectful little shit

  • @iseezapie I think he's the same one who lost the battle of sun tzu and Vlad, should've seen the fucker run his mouth then

  • Another thought came into my mind I think they purposely chose weapons that are different, both in Sun Tzu episode and in this.

  • I think they should actually pull a real expert in this because everytime when they talk about China they didn't really get it right, especially the Sun Tzu espisode is just a joke... but they probably can't find the proper weapons for China, becuz a large part of Chin heritage was actually lost forever during the communist rule. I have no prob about muskeers winning, but it is due to the weapons advantage, if u go back 1000 yrs I think it will be evenly matched

  • Europe(an union), still the n°1 country in the world

  • I really want to see that they make an episode of Suong soldiers, because gunpowder was invented during Suong Dynasty. The Suong army also invented rocket arrows and fire lance.

  • The Ming did the first disrespect to the muskateer

  • Dang that Ming dude is disrespectful. At least the Musketeer fellows show a little class

  • @Jakkinx Nice insight

  • @Jakkinx

    the musketeer dude made jokes about calling ming warriors for fireworks

    i think disrespectfulness was on both sides dude

  • he has a stand holding up the musket thats probably placed directly in front of the dummy. no shit its gonna hit dead center

  • Musketeer = Sucks

    Ming Warriors = Win

  • Too many STEROTYPES on this show... When was the last time a sterotyping someone did anything.

  • @Richenov "In times of War the french army is Nike'S biggest Customer for running-Shoes"

  • Gotta say, that little scenerio with the duel...makes the Musketeers look like dicks. The guy was drunk and accidently knocked into him. It takes no skill or bravery to kill a drunk man who lacks training.

  • little asian guy keeps arguing like a bitch! lol

    

  • and why the hell were there firecrackers when the musketeer threw the grenade - just because firecrackers are chinese doesn't mean soldiers would be lugging them around; and soldiers don't necessarily scream like barbarians waving their swords alerting other musketeers; and did soldiers really use taichi for fighting?

    i feel sorry for Jonathan Wang, there is good reason to be proud of Chinese military arts and history, but our fire weapons did not match with the French

  • this episode was kinda stupid, i already felt the musketeers would win, the way they portray chinese is stereotypical (with the music, every time "chinese" is mentioned, cue Oriental music), the fight choreography is not consistent with the idea that dao has the edge, the experts were trying to be impressed with chinese firearms when they're obviously not, and i was fine with ming not winning until that french douchebag said the only good thing chinese can do is build wall.

  • Phillip Dang is a substitute teacher, and went to my school.

  • look up phidang16 on youtube. Theres mings youtube channel lol

  • Damn, that Chinese kid is so pretentious... -_- talking like that to a Legionaire.

  • I swear, sometimes I think comment boxes should be done away with...

  • and why the fuck is france vs america here?

  • Why is france here? who the fuck brought france to this video?

  • French army lost in WWII because so many died in World War I...they were way short of manpower...people criticize the French army for the mutiny on 1917..but that wasn't cowardice, their generals were wasting the men in futile attacks.the French soldiers were very brave.

  • 8:40 is badass...

  • my respect for the french just keeps growing. btw shut up americans saying there cowards cause theyll punk ur asses

  • Also, I don't think France is full of cowards. Britain would have shared the same fate had there been a land bridge, and the only thing that saved Russia was its shear size stretching Hitler's supply lines, combined with his refusal of any kind of strategic retreat. People like to claim their good fortune as though it shows personal virtue. The only thing I find terrifying is that when we accuse someone of being reluctant to kill it's the worst thing we can say about them.

  • i cant believe the musketeer's rifle won over the bees nest seriously?

    hitting a standing target was hard enough ,imagine having to reload 3 times in a minute

    But you could kill 6 men with 1 shot of the bees nest, imagine having a dosen of those men shooting those on a enemy battlefield

  • @well, and how to reload the NoB? with this clumsy and bulky thing, you can carry ONE. fire and drop it. the musket is actually capable of being reloaded time and time again with you carrying lots of ammunition. So you can kill more men with a musket and a pouch of ammo than with a one-shot NoB

  • the Chinese invented the compass the gunpowder chopsticks*o* they made the first handcannon and land mines they were the first to use paper money and printing wat did the french do?

  • @roach46554 as mentioned before: the evidence for chinese inventing either gunpowder or guns is more than shaky.

  • made me laugh when one said if the mings had multiple bees nests they would have done more damage, yes true and if the muskets had 5 grenades each they would have probably made a slaughter too. with ifs and buts....

  • the rocket launcher is a 1-use ditch weapon... which on defensive positions

    they have supports of bow and crossbows on long range attacks

  • And moreover, the Mings grabbed as many launchers as possible and load them on a cart, and push the cart to the battlefield. That way would eliminate the disadvantage of low accuracy or a single launcher.

  • @karlospkc89 with such supplies, then the eoropeans could use a nice, cast bronze 12-pounder Cannon, filled with Canister. with a fast guncrew, you can get up to 5 or 6 shots per minute out of that, like a GIANT shotgun and with the effective Range between 200 and 300 meters.

  • @LutzDerLurch I am not sure about that. BUT, in Chinese history, the arrow launchers are actually tied in a group of about 6 and being pushed to the battlefield.

    Shotgun may not be so effective here because in Chinese inland war, we are talking about millions of people.

  • @karlospkc89 Actually, a Connon loaded with Canister (lots and lots of musket balls sized lead or iron balls, sometimes old nails, if nothing else was available,) will win with growing enemis Army-Size. The balls if spread left or right will find another soldier to kill, if short, they most always bounce off the ground again, and if too high, they will drop and hit somebody in the 20th, 30th or whatever line. If the enemies Army is big, enough, you cant miss.

  • @LutzDerLurch But don't forget carry them is difficult. Arrow is much lighter and easier to be carried with cart. And also, during Ming age, canon was also VERY popular and VERY advance, not any worse than western. But when it gets to Qing...Qing's emperors are bunch of faggots

    But I dunno, arguing who will win (that basically can't be proven) is like kids trying to fight for candy, silly.

    I just wanna point out that Ming don't use single launcher, so the point about accuracy is not valid.

  • @karlospkc89 I maintain that chart full of NoBs does less executin then a chart full of Cannon Ammunition. you can either have each man carrying his weapons or each man having supplies above what he can actualy carry. Also, Europeans had lots and lots of multibarreled and/or multishot and/or breechloading weapons at that time. The chinese specimen didnt prevail because, like the erupean experimental wepons, were no advantage. E.g. the treebarreled weapon, you have to reload tree times as long

  • @karlospkc89 (cont) you could even double charge with a solid round shot behind the Canister, which will, when fired horizontally, be bouncing off the ground after first "graze" and continue to do so for some 600-900 yards without any elavation at all, and with the shot being more than capable of flying straight through lots of men.

  • That's not even fair...

    The rocket is designed to do a massive killing because the size of a war that the Chinese faced was much larger than the European

    Consider Ming's army had 1-3 million of people....

  • dude Asians originated firearms...they would win because they're also smaller targets

  • @backpack117 racist American...

  • WHAT! the musket over FIREWORKS, BULLSHIT!...

  • @SonLastName Why is that? Don't forget that the Musketeers had armor as well.

  • THE CHINESE ARE THE REAL INVENTORS OF FIREARMS!!!!!!

  • @elizabuzz

    STFU RETARD

  • @elizabuzz Not sure. The only references to firearms and blackpowder beeing chinese inventions are annotations of unknown age in a copy of a manuscipt that was allegedly from the time it was invented. Not quite a very solid basis for certain claims. There is, at the moment the same credibility that blackpowder and firarms were invented around byzanz, and they could have spread along the silk road. Early gunpowder origins are, if only rocksolid data is used, unclear at best. Obscured by smoke

  • @elizabuzz That is not yet proven

  • @elizabuzz indeed but us europeans were the inventors of the good useful firearms

  • No offence but Asians are smaller than a European's.

  • @RobloxViedosForYou people back in the middle ages/medieval times were all considerably smaller than people nowadays neways. the average european height was no more than 5'6 back in 17th Century france. Napolean; contrary to popular misconception, was actually above average- 5'6.8". the late 14th century mongol descendent, founder of the Turkic Timurid Dynasty- Tamerlane; was 5'8: quite tall for the time.

  • @GusCraigengower oh what happend when the Mongols invade Poland then eh?

  • @RobloxViedosForYou erm...lol wut?? woot the heck are you talking about? if you wanna make a point make it, don't gimme a fricking riddle. i ain't got time for that shizz. xDDD

    jeez people these days lol.

  • @RobloxViedosForYou You do realized that the mongols defeated the pols right? And its only a raiding army, not the conquering ones that overan most of the asia and middle east.

    Europe was saved because the muslim empires were much more worthy of conquest and an untimely death of the great khan.

  • @RobloxViedosForYou Fuck off

  • @RobloxViedosForYou Go back 1000 years and you will see the opposite.

  • Americans make me laugh really

    They say France is coward, never won a war... France lost ww1 and ww2 and did not put up a fight

    ww1, France 39 millions inhabitants, 1.4 million dead and 4.3 millions wounded

    France held the ground and repelled the germans and made the most important contribution in fighting

    ever heard of battle of Verdun?

    France has won more battles than US army has ever fought

    France 1500 years of war and victories

    US born 230 years ago

    teen

  • @skiteufr - I'm British and have agree sometimes our American cousins make me laugh too...they don't have half the history of war we do and are actually comprised mostly of the best of Europe anyway yet think they are unique and special.

    America's greatest "achievements" was the ethnic cleansing of stone age natives (still took them centuries) and having to nuke Japan because they were not ready to accept massive loss of soliders by invading.

  • @skiteufr 1500 years of War true..but not always victories thought

  • @skiteufr

    Every country that has been formed is resting on the ashes of people who were less skilled at warfare. We come from a particularly murderous line of primates, so I have no doubt in any group of people's ability to slaughter others.

  • @skiteufr When America started, it was great in many ways. In the 40s through 70s it was great .We had ambition we had morals And we had goals. NOW our government is greedy self suicided and has lost its main point, to work for us people. Most of our people have lost most all true biblical moral values and the younger generation is getting layer and layer. So i agree with you in some ways but you have to note the great country of France was once young to. No to fight or nothing just saying.

  • @BeauMuseVids Please dont state that glorious US and A is was moraly superior or that the bible has something to do with morality.

  • @LutzDerLurch the bible has everything to do with true morality. But society as its own flawed Morales and most people choose the easy road with is society morals. I dont want to fight with you im just stating my own belief. 

  • @BeauMuseVids Well,Zhere a lot of countries which are not christian or religious at all, and still they do not go on killing sprees or are otherwise more morally corrupted than christians. So I strongly believe that the Bible is not neccessary to derive morality. If it helps you, then that is just fine and most welcome, but please do not claim that the Bible is the only source for morality.

  • @BeauMuseVids the bible condones sellingyour daughter into slavery and killing gays

  • @Leprechaunsquad Thou shalt not kill. The law of the slave guaranteed freedom after a specified period of 6 years unless the slave himself elected permanent servitude but this would be secure in context not of abuse but of love. Any permanent involuntary servitude for a Hebrew slave to a Hebrew master was obviously undesirable for a Israelite society and was unknown in Isrial.

  • @BeauMuseVids and what about disobedient children may be stoned to death, working on the sabbath = death, the bible is full of prejeduce, discrimination, cruelty and murder. Christianity is one of the worse thing humans have ever came up with

  • @Leprechaunsquad have you forgot the practice of CUTTING EARS OFF and BELIEVING IN CORPSE BURNING!

  • Hey sorry i couldn't fit is all in the first box lol. here is the rest. Provision was also made to ensure the proper treatment pf female slaves who could not deliberatly be left destitute by wrongful action on the part of their master.

  • @skiteufr You guys eventually win the final war. . . I mean.You guys got kicked out of countries you conquered, rose up in power, and got sat down.

  • @whitelotus77 We won most of the napoleonic wars but lost the last one after conquering europe for 20 years. We lost to all europe coalised against us, outnumbering us by far

    It was a honourable defeat after putting Europe on its knees like it was never done since the roman empire, 1500 years before

    But we still left an influence on the world with those conquests as social and political reforms led to Europe we know today

  • @skiteufr Yeah. Your guys' weakness is enemy teamwork. The European Coalition vs Napoleon I. Then the Indochinese Alliance for Indochinese independence vs Napoleon III. It's just power vs numbers for you guys.

  • @whitelotus77 The problem of the conquest of Indochina and outnumbering numbers has been largely resolved by the fact we had techological advantage

    For Europe and Napoleon it was not the same overview

    France had no technological advantage over other europeans

    We used the same weapons etc

    We were just fighting outnumbered 1 to 4 for years and managed to hold the situation for a long time

    Whatever you say, numbers always had a huge importance on the battlefield

  • @skiteufr stop bitchin and getting all defensive. we live in the 21st century and in this century we are the greatest nation on earth and france is known for nothing but the eiffel tower and hairy women lmfao. nobody cares about what france did 500 years ago

  • @raiders1815"" we are the greatest nation on earth" Oh i thought it was China as the USA are bankrupted in a month

  • @raiders1815 On what scientific data do you base your seemingly arrogant assumption that your Country is the greatest on Earth?

  • @skiteufr Not to mention how many hundreds of years spent on the battlefield.. the Gauls vs Romans, Charles Martel vs Muslim invaders, Charlemagne ( Pater Europae, Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire I add), the hundreds of years of war against the English, NAPOLEON, the wars with the Indians vs Britain (which they did lose), the wars fought by the Foreign Legion, WWI and WWII, the French did not just lay down and let the Germans in, they fought hard, and never forget, LA RESISTANCE!

  • @skiteufr France would win usa in a war the jenkkies wouldn't know where to send there troops on the map

  • @skiteufr fuck u

  • @skiteufr Were it not for the US entering WW1 france would be a german province. I have heard of the Verdun... France lost.

  • @skiteufr France help americans to fight of british :D in colonian wars.

    WW1 france held main west front!

    But ww2 was total fail :D because of inside trechery.

    Viatnam was bad too :()

  • @skiteufr France does have a pretty bad track record over the last hundred or so years though. WW1 was the last time they really put up a good fight, and even then they needed help from the British and Americans (and Russians, indirectly) to win. Past centuries the French were more impressive, though you can't live on past glory forever.

  • @skiteufr Indeed.......Italy is actually the one who has never won a war lmfao

  • @karlospkc89 aside from the massive roman empire.. yeah

  • @skiteufr And Napoleon Bonapart of course!

  • @skiteufr June 4, 1940. Nazi forces enter Paris. Within 10 days, they control the entire city. By June 13, 1940, the Parisians have evacuated with the Nazis enforcing a curfew on its few remaining inhabitants. The former city of light waits for the Allies to arrive and lift the shadow that has fallen over Paris. However, the heroism of D-day will have been for nothing if the allies cannot hold the land beyond the beaches of Normandy.

  • @skiteufr Please don't think all Americans are like that. The Americans who talk like that are the equivalent of French people that spit at American tourists. French people and Americans should remember how much we've helped each other in the past, not talk shit on youtube.

  • @skiteufr Yea. but France is our bitch now.

  • @skiteufr 230 years ago yet we have better are the #1 industrialized country in the world

  • @skiteufr France and Britain are in the two top places for the amount of wars fought in ratio to wars won, there was a third but I cannot remember. Its all fun and games to call the french cowards like it is to call the brits posh wankers but when it comes down to it, we rip the face off of anything that comes near us. :D FRANCE FTW!

  • @TheConnorian The third is Austria (Austrian Hasburg Empire). Its not a joke

  • @skiteufr Really? that is interesting. I honestly expected another nation like china or japan or maybe even Germany.

  • @TheConnorian couldnt agree more mon ami

  • @skiteufr and yet it still is the worlds leading country

  • fuck the Musketeer not only was the ming army massive but the ming were also skilled in hand to hand combat a ming could kill a musketeer with his bear hands!

    fuck the french (btw im white so dont be dissing the chinese at me)

  • 0:30 lol

  • ming warriors physically stronger? thats ridiculous.... stupid chinks think their race is the strongest of all... fuckin idiots

  • @sm0keshell Your so ignorant, you bloody racist

  • @epicnessinacan you've got a damm problem mate?? 

  • @sm0keshell Yea you

  • @epicnessinacan ill fuck your mother

  • @sm0keshell Awww what's wrong? You don't like being part of the problem?

    You know how they say your either part of the problem or part of the solution, guess which you are.

  • @sm0keshell yo what the fucks your problem? what are you french then? lol china wipe out france ANY day. fuck that beijing police force wipe out france no problem. france just surrenders like the little pussies they are.

  • @funyellowpills yeah that only happens in your wet dream, you flying shit...

  • @sm0keshell your talking to me about 'shit'? france is full of shit. when you eat french food it tastes like shit. when you go to eat food and shit falls in your soup, mix it in and it tastes like frace. seriously. i took a shit that looked like france yesterday. france is so pussy their only armed forces is this fatass called jacque patrolling around on a segway with a baguette. with his best friend called pierre. yeah go stick your head up your asshole.

  • @funyellowpills china is a communist bull crap country full of retarded chinks and garbage food.. and the foreign legion kicks the chink armed monkeys, you dumbfuck

  • @sm0keshell yeah france's army numbers in the hundred thousands, or whatever, and their artillery is made of stinky cheese balls. china's army numbers in the 7 millions and we have sevral hundred nuclear warheads ready for battle. not that we need several hundred.. i'm guessing maybe two?

  • @funyellowpills why dont you realize the west is superior, to a bunch of tiny monkeys with only great numbers? weve always kicked ya asses, even the japs could kick your asses again..

  • @sm0keshell i dont feel like reading your essays thanks. i think we can conclude that you take this way too seriously. chinese ppl ftw, french pussies are nothing.

  • @funyellowpills chinese people suck jap and western dick:P

  • @sm0keshell french people suck everyone elses dick

  • @funyellowpills atleast they dont have handicapped eyes like ya chinks do

  • @sm0keshell You mean like you do. Handicapped or not is just a matter of what you concider to be normal.

  • @sm0keshell And one for you too: "Why do chinese Warships have a Glass bottom? To wath the Rest of the Fleet on the Seabed."

  • @funyellowpills Ah, good old youtube flame... Btw, got a very old joke for you: "How many men do you need to defend Paris?  Don't know, nobody tried yet."

  • physically stronger? thats ridiculous....

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