After The Death Of Christopher Hitchens I Have Become Much More Grateful & Listen Much More Closely To Sam Harris..........EMBRACE These Great Free Thinkers They Are Few And Fra Between!
I agree with the careless denial that some liberals live in in the case of the cartoon issue etc,If really all muslims living in the west were fanatical and suicidal id see a few suicide bombings on my way to work and a few on my way back.
Harris makes good points in general against dogma and religion, which in our times is worst manifested in the muslim world, but what i fear is that christian rightwing hijacking and distorting his points into virulent hatred and prosecution of innocents, who could then become prime property for terrorists from outside to influence and cause chaos our society from outside.
@sushanalone The difference is that Islam right now is more culpable for needless human misery than Christianity has been for a long time. We should be concerned with what Muslims believe before anything else about religion concerns us.
@44warjunkie i agree, but the underlying fact is all religions have a dormant/active potential and have been like what we see radical islam today, and if if given the right conditions can go back to that state whether its Christianity, Hinduism or any other religion.Focussing on one religion simply solves a problem temporarily, i think its time to phase religion out as an outdated way of living life.
It is wrong to kill innocent people no matter what. But who killed about 100 Million (25% Children) in WWI, WWII, Vietnam, Colonial wars on Asia, Africa, Korea, Iraq, Palestine, Lebanon ... Who used Nuclear Bomb on civilians (Japan)! First to use Chemical (WWI, WWII). Unless you think nuking Children, or killing them with 1 ton Aerial bombs is more human than suicide Bombs. Get real, Western savagery dwarfs all other races combined.
@arraba99 Look,the game you're playing there is a bit silly. Depending on how inclusive or exclusive you are, you get the desired results, but in reality, "the west" is just a term for the areas in the world which people have a european migration tradition and that's it. That says NOTHING about their ideas , political views, religious views etc. because they're not a unified group.
The destructive savagery of the "enlightened Christian” west is unparalleled in human history. And I am not taking just 20th century, which I listed below. Go back to the Crusades, boiling people alive, the war of the roses (Europe) the 100 years (Europe), Natives of America (7 Million including Children), Napoleon wars, the Holocaust, the Bolsheviks … Islam very tame and peaceful by measure. Sam and other Muslim bashers are disingenuous suffer from self-induced selective amnesia.
More recently, check American atrocities in Iraq:, 250,000 civilians killed (1 Million children killed from 20 years blockade), Abu Ghraib prison, Haditha Massacre, Uranium enriched shells. Israel use of Uranium enriched shells & Phosphoric Bombs on Gaza Civilians. USA Napalm Bombs on Vietnams Civilians, agent Orange on Vietnamese forests. People in the west should get their collects heads out of their butts. Sam & his elks is just bashing Islam to justify American/Israel Wars & sell books
Sam Harris phoney concern for humanity is at best misplaced, but more likely disingenuous. As American (with Jewish background) he should focus on his own backyard.
While I generally agree with Sam Harris I do believe that when 50% of the 6.5 billion people on the planet live on $2 per day or less you're going to see people that are more willing to pick up a gun or strap on a bomb when they witness struggle or starvation on a daily basis.
@sooperfukker Mine was not an indictment of poor people. Even in horrific conditions most people are peaceful. I do think it's easier for extremism/violence to start with a lack of education/opportunity. When the Sunni Awakening militia started receiving a $10 a month stipend they stopped attacking Americans. These were the military that were thrown out of jobs after Saddam Hussein's regime collapsed in 2003. Extremisms have the easy time setting up shop in the poorest areas of the world.
@RuleofFive That's something different: These people have been bought out of what they're doing = Action/Inaction in exchange for money. But poverty cannot have been the reason for the attacks in the first place, because the attacks couldn't have possibly eliminated the poverty.
Religious fanatics however, cannot be bought out of their thinking or their doings, because their goals cannot be paid for with money. A religios mindset makes them immune to any sort of bribery.
@sooperfukker Its hard to express this in 500 bites but poverty/lack of education are certainly jet fuel to the fire. I think in many places the Mosque is the only functioning institution which offers a very narrow perspective at best. I just don't buy the "they hate our freedom" line. US foreign policy has often been a recruiting tool for the fanatics Harris is speaking of. I also think the number of true martyrs is small.
@RuleofFive Well, it begs the question: Why do mosques produce violent graduates in masses and churches don't ?
And that freedom thing .. they do hate it, nothing could show that better than the infamous "freedom go to hell" sign you can find anywhere on the net.
The kind of freedom we promote, full intellectual freedom, not only threatens - but refutes - their core view of the world which constitutes their only claim to value. Islam promises superiority and we proved it to fail.
@sooperfukker I think a small % of Mosque grads are violent as they embrace the rhetoric @ their Mosque w/o any alternative world views/persistent poverty/lack of education/bad govt. I'd bet the Muslims in this video don't have a high school education between them. Christianity produced violence after its 1st 1000 yrs with the Crusades & the Inquisition. US violence is conducted on a wider scale now. 8000 dead Americans post 9/11 vs. between 100,000 to 600,000 Iraqis/Afghans.
@RuleofFive You can keep repeating that falsehood, it doesn't become right.
Whoever it may be, the 9/11 terrorists, the 7/7 terrorists in London, the 3/11 terrorists in spain, all of them educated members of society, just like bin laden, al sarkawi, al zawahiri, al awlaki ... the list is endless.
Islamic terrorism has nothing to do with poverty, oppression or lack of education.
Stop saying that, the reality of it makes you look like a fool.
@RuleofFive [2] And don't start playing the numbers game,you will lose it.
You are SUPER SELECTIVE about the victims of islamic terror. Not only is the vast majority of muslims victims in Iraq killed BY MUSLIMS, you're also forgetting about the violence and oppression perpetraded by muslims all around the globe EVERY SINGLE DAY. In countries like Pakistan,muslim extremists kill people EVERY SINGLE DAY.
@sooperfukker "Why do mosques produce violent graduates in masses and churches don't ?"
Churches produce violent graduates in masses just as mosques do - even today. Look up how Evangelical churches in Africa are still rounding up children and burning them as witches.
Or look at American Christianity, the growing fundamentalist (we are on a mission from God) types. Listen to the hate/warmongering rhetoric coming from reconstuctionists - armed and ready to kill for Jesus.
@TheHigherVoltage If you bring up a point - think it through or it will backfire.
There were indeed incidents in Africa where people were fired up by priests and commited single atrocities.
There are 2 major differences to the muslim extremists:
(1) In Africa, local paganism and tribal beliefs mix STRONGLY with the stuff the church teaches. You probably wouldn't recognise the Christianity as such down there, it's nothing like the stuff you know from USA or Europe.
[2] The actions of these people were immediately and widely condemned by officials and prosecuted by authorities.No official would dare to speak on behalf of people who do such things.
The muslim world is an opposing mirror. The officials keep quiet or even applaud them and the authorities are reluctant to do anything about it. That's one of the reasons why ca. 100,000,000 Christians worldwide today are being persecuted and oppressed, mostly by muslims.
@sooperfukker #1 Change the accents and it's basically the same. Not that long ago in America, believers were burning children as witches too...and if it was up to some of the hardcore Christian sects in America, they'll be labeling and burning heretics, gays, and liberals as soon as Jesus let's em.
#2 Why are you crying about being persecuted? Jesus says his followers should rejoice in being laughed at and persecuted. Not to mention...your argument is the pot calling the kettle black.
@TheHigherVoltage You really don't get the difference,do you? One of them are infact a handful of people, which are being treated by their societies as the abominations they are, the other ones represent the core of their societies and flourish in them.
@sooperfukker I get the difference you present just fine - and it's not the big picture. Every godcult with a big enough membership (say 50 million+) has their own well established social/national/cultural strongholds - in which, their majority are 'God's righteous', and the minorities are blamed for all the problems.
You only see the world from a tiny bubble :/
There's a billion+ Hindus in India right now looking at the minority of Abrahamic cultist in their land and shaking their head.
@TheHigherVoltage Your presentation, claiming some "broader picture" is somewhat laughable. Your notion that all "major" religions are basically has simply no grounding in today's reality.
It's a matter of fact that muslims are committing masses of religiously motivated crimes every single day.
It's a matter of fact that the majority -if not all- other major religions do not produce that outcome.
It's a matter of fact that the core doctrines of Islam are violent.
@sooperfukker As is a fact that Christianity, throughout it's history, is a psychotic and violent against non-believers as Islam is when it has the political ability to do so.
Both have a layer of 'be good and love' covering some of the most psychotic shit imaginable. They are both based on the same 'I love you so much I'll make sure you're tortured for eternity at the drop of a hat.'
But you are right about 1 thing - it's a billion Hindus in the world. 800 or so million in India.
@sooperfukker all civilizations have gone up and down, and incidentally in those times of peaks had dominant religions.That does not mean that religions caused those breakthroughs , often scientists of that era were persecuted. Contributions of middle east during dark ages to humanity are enormous.Advances in geometry, algebra, chemistry that was deemed alchemy and illegal in christian lands, architecture,and the propogation of Indian numeric system to the west.Lets be respectful.peace
@sushanalone Islam had its cultural high times long ago, between 800-1100 AC. That was it. Since then, nothing of use has come out of the muslim world, a sad truth. Since then, it has stagnated completely. You just need to see the clothes they wear and it tells you everything about the exact spot in time when their minds stopped working.
@sooperfukker isnt that true for all civilizations? you might call this a dark age for islam, though it has to do more with the direction the religion took a few hundred years ago, and imho needs to change , for it to get mainstream.Besides when did clothing style become a sign of civilization?
@sushanalone Since when is clothing a sign of civilisation? Since always. The lowest among us are rushing through the forests in loincloth. Sitting around in the sand wearing linen sacks isn't really far from that. The clothing of people does reflect on the civilisational level of a society very much.
@sooperfukker you have convoluted attitude to people not similar to yourself.I dont think its worth continuing a conversation as i am sure its gona go downhill.peace
@sushanalone No problem. I also have the feeling that it'd only take 1 or 2 more posts from you to come out of the closet as a cultural and moral relativist. And yes, I love playing these like a drum.
@TheHigherVoltage Oh btw.. you won't find a billion Hindus in India. 800 million is quite a number but they haven't reached the billion yet . And they know all too well what muslim violence looks like.
@RuleofFive [2] If you really believe that your religion commands you to kill unbelievers and promises you an eternity of paradise andreward for it, no money or other worldly opportunity can convince you otherwise.
And these people are infact enemies of civilisation as such. I don't care if it's 1% or 10%, I say : Let's go and kill them, then we can move on and build a better society without them.
@NICH0LASM Well, of course we couldn't do that. I meant force in other ways, not just nuking countries or killing them. We definitely couldn't use nuclear material either way, at minimum because of the fallout. I don't suggest this anyway, I just believe it will take more than conversation and more than a couple of decades to overcome it.
At the end he says he disagrees with a lot of what he says but he thinks he is a smart man? What an ass. Virtually nothing sam harris says can be disputed he uses logic day in day out. Anyone who disagrees doesnt know logic or rational reason at all.
@ultim4t32 You can see the cogs turning in Carlson's pea-brain. "Muslims bad" "Sam Harris say Islam bad... so.... Sam Harris good". He just makes fatuous statements. He brings nothing to the table.
@TheAssymetrical Cont. and for the changes to take effect. If it were up to me, all the holy books and relics in the world would be destroyed; it would truly be a new start. The well being of our race is much more important than being nice and tolerant, sorry.
@TheAssymetrical Well, what? Do you think we could just ask them? Now of course we shouldn't, and never will, just kill Muslims. However, in certain countries in which the disease runs strong, some type of large scale, forced change is going to be needed. We would have to forcibly make this happen. Unfortunately there is no good or ethic solution, but that doesn't mean you let it continue. Sometimes drastic measures require drastic action. It would take generations for it to manifest, and for t
@BER2ERKER It is out of the question to seek to destroy all muslims. When you go into a war like for instance Libya, it is with a specific interest that can be pin pointed. Thus a majority concur the action to be good. Killing a race is akin to Adolf Hitler. If it was possible to nuke the middle east into total death it could help the world advance no doubt, but it isn't possible now.
It seems to me that this report concentrates on the way that Muslims are blinded by 'affiliation to their religion' when in fact that is the same with all religions. The fact that America harbours within it so many radical Christians is the reason for the war on terror. Religion is the reason for all this extreme and nonsensical acts driven by ideological madness, otherwise known as religions. Christopher Hitchens, '[They are] all just manifestations of the same untruth'
I'm a big fan of Harris,but seriously? What is he actually advocating when he says that Islam is evil? Of course it fucking is, but how are we going to genuinely stop it? Keep dropping bombs on Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan? America can't even stop Conservative Christians running amok and fucking up the Political System, what MASTER plan does he propose to stop the spread of radical islam? Kill them?
It would be interesting to see some data concerning the percentage of people in the various faiths that believe in taking life to uphold their opinions. Clearly many people believe in capital punishment for religious reasons although the 'capital crimes' vary from place to place. I take Sam Harris's points very seriously but I'm also aware that the Moslems I have met over the years have all been as averagely peace-loving as the rest of us. What we need is data.
It would be interesting to see some data concerning the percentage of people in the various faiths that believe in taking life to uphold their opinions. Clearly many people believe in capital punishment for religious reasons although the 'capital crimes vary from place to place. I take Sam Harris's points very seriously but I'm also aware that the Moslems I have met over the years have all been as averagely peace-loving as the rest of us. What we need is data.
This is priceless how you can see Carlson thinking, "damn... I actually agree with this guy... I was supposed to be tearing him a new one, but he's making points I agree with...." And then at the end he just has to throw in there, "I disagree with a lot of the things you say". Like... well, don't forget I still don't like you!
@cassnate6259 I think he agrees with Sam about the muslim terrorists believe in looney stories, but does not believes it applies to the christians (I think).
Tucker : "Amen...I disagree with a lot of things you say..."
"you're a brave man" (for talking smack about the people Im too pussy to talk about)
The word "homosexual" is more appropriate and accurate than the word "gay".
A person does not need religion, hatred or any kind of phobia in order to acknowledge important, qualitative differences between heterosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption and homosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption.
Homosexual activists, with support from the media, have succeeded at framing themselves as noble victims and martyrs; it's an effective way to push a social agenda.
The reason why terrorists attack us are not religious dogma, but political reasons. Why is the mainstream media blind to this fact? It's not religious. It's political. If America cut off its ties with Israel today, there would be no more terrorism. That's a fact.
@peteagassi A fact? That's ridiculous. Aside from the FACT that a hypothetical cannot be a FACT...Muslims kill other Muslims daily, simply because they have different beliefs. Tell me, why again was Theo van Gogh murdered? Or why was a fatwa issued against Salman Rushdie?
@peteagassi That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. If you remove religion from the equation all together, you really think suicide bombings would ever happen again? (Psychopathic "Ted Kaczynski's" aside, obviously).
I admire Harris greatly. I would like to him see him get angry though, just once. He's always so calm, cucumber cool. All of his energy seems to be channeled into his brain, fueling his devastating intellect in a dazzling display of synaptic majesty.
There have been over 17,000 deadly terrorist attacks by Muslims and less than a handful by Chistians. Just as dangerous? I'm not sure I quiet understand you.
@Anon12356 An exaggeration. 17000? this week, this month, this year? less than a handful of christian terrorist attacks? really? less than 5 christian terror attacks? here are just a few that maybe you forgot; olympic bomber, multiple clinic bombings, attack on Gabby Giffords, the Norwegian bomber that killed 91, David Koresch, Timothy McVeigh, Hutaree. The list goes on. Don't keep your eyes blind to dangerous christian terrorists just because they carry the same Bible you carry.
GJ You named TWO terror attacks committed by Christians in the last 10 years. thereligionofpeace(DOT)com has a full list including the amount of casualties from all terror attacks in the last 10 years (over 17500 Islamic). My eyes are not blind and I carry no Bible. I am an atheist, not a Christian, so don't blindly assume such!
It is a fact that the vast majority of terrorist attacks in orders of magnitude higher than non-Muslims are committed by Muslims.
I will accept that there may have been over a handful Christian terror attacks (although you have not demonstrated this, it seems likely this is the case), but the number of terror attacks committed by all non-Muslims together (not just Christians) doesn't even come close to 1/100th of the amount of terror attacks by Muslims.
The numbers speak for themselves. Muslim extremists ARE more dangerous than Christian ones.
@dovespin1While there are a number of people who would identify themselves as christians who have committed atrocities, there are far more in recent history who have murdered thousands in the name of islam, and many who would have no qualms about using a nuclear device in order to spread islam and stop any nation that would oppose it. The problem lies within the dogma whereby people are raised to never question their holy books and die if need be to defend them. Its ALL superstitious nonsense.
Typically I can't stand Tucker, but here he does pretty well. Seems to have become(at least in this clip) a little more humble and personable in his approach.
I find it ironic how they attempt to blame the insanities of the middle east solely on Islam. Certainly, fundamentalist religion makes the populus far more reactionary to trivial matters, but as they speak they show footage of what is largely reaction to international politics.
I think that should worldwide power centers relax their grip on the middle east, it would be much easier to actually begin to break down the ancient dogmas of religion there, and that fighting it alone will do little.
Why are books called "New York Times best seller"? Do ordinary people have to give commercial endorsements to acknowledge facts? Do you really need the New York Times to tell you which books are popular? If you heard about a hurricane via a report from Reuters would you call it the Reuters Hurricane?
Book sales are facts, facts don't belong to anybody.
Sam Harris is fairly accurately described as a liberal as well. The point here is that liberals are far more frequently defenders of multiculturalism regardless of the cultures in question, and this tendency has caused some serious malcontent. We're lucky to see a lot more liberals speaking out against multiculturalism now, especially as it concerns the often barbaric nature of Islamic culture.
Liberals apologize for extremists in some circumstances because they are preprogramed to (1) overvalue the need for sensitivity and multicultrual acceptance (both good concepts, but liberals fail to recognize their limitations); and (2) they assume (as Harris said) Western power is to blame for all the worlds problems, including its own. Again, they over-use the concept: Western powers do cause problems, but they don't "cause" people to kill civilians in the name of God.
@eriknielsen68 : They also pussied out after pressure from Islamic countries to not publish the muhammad cartoons. You're gonna have to protect your hard earned freedoms.
@sameer137 You are absolutely correct. There will always be a fight to protect something. Would be quite nice if we could have a Utopian society, but that will never happen.
All religion sucks and is harmful. The world would undoubtedly be a better place without it. It restricts freedom of thought, denegrates critical thinking, and causes conflict the planet over! We can for sure, be good without it's codes, and would definititely be better off without its orders to ignite hatred for others of different or no religion. How can the educated world still follow this nonsense. Lets all follow Scandinavia, where it has all but disappeared. Well done to them.
no matter what your religious affiliation - Harris is right when you *critically* consider his propositon. rationality always trumps religion - period.
@capoman1 You could tell he was REALLY conflicted about what Sam was saying -- yea, yea, Islam is bad, Muslims are bad, wait, wait, not ALL religious dogma is bad lol. Poor Tucker
Western power, like all power, IS "at heart malevolent.
I'm really disappointed by these flourishes of apologetics of Western imperialism by Sam.
It doesn't seem like there a lot of people who acknowledge that the US and its allies are the most dangerous force to ever grace the planet in its ruthless pursuit of resources and profit and at the same recognise the fundamental crimes of religion, specifically Islam.
People should listen to Sam Harris a lot more. He's right. The Muslim community will infiltrate governments in ever increasing numbers, change policy and take over. All because WE are religiously tolerant. Time to think rationally and resist ALL religious nonsense.
Sam Harris doesn't understand Cultural Marxism. He's a smart guy but doesn't understand Cultural Marxism at all. He says "Liberals" like they don't go to church. The very purpose of Liberalism is to tear down society. Liberalism has always been iconoclastic. Sam Harris is trying to argue that Liberals are Secularists. In a way that's true. But the greatest Liberals are Communists because by that token they're the most secular. It's Communism and atheists that murders more than religion.
@idano67, religion does not promote conflict. Human beings do. And human beings use religion to their own selfish ends. But this does not mean that something is wrong with religion itself, only that it is being misused.
@idano67 , I am not missing the reason. Perhaps what is missing for you is a little history. The reasons for conflict are usually acquisition of land, broadening of economic and political power, defeat of one's enemies, and centralization of one's power. Religion is usually not the reason, but is often given as a justification for the true reasons for conflict.
@chrisman737 Those are not the only reasons. The crusades are a good example, there is most definitely a religious motivation in its foundation.Suicide bombings, between different fractions of islam.
@idano67 , re-read my post. I did not say they were the only reasons. I said they were usually the reasons, and that religious is usually not the reason.
@chrisman737 There are many forms of religious belief that does very effectively promote and induce violence within humanity. People act on there beliefs and the notions that they hold of ultimate truth is still the driving force utilized by whomever, to achieve there goals, including religious goals.Whether you accept it or not, a lot of the goals are to enforce the "law of god" as written in there specific scriptures.
@chrisman737 It does not matter when you tell me that these people are misinterpreting the scriptures, so many people can interpret it in so many different ways, and this is a major part of the problem.
When one puts these two concepts together " interpretation and descriptive violence " as promoted in religious texts, Well....As I said, look into history and current events, I rest my case.
@thomaserossi I think that you are making up your own definition of "liberal" (sounds like substituting it for "evil-doer" most likely) and really have no idea what that term actually means. Just so know for future reference, the purpose of liberalism is NOT to tear down society; you're thinking of anarchism, which is much different. Be careful in the use of your terms, and try not to just "throw them around". Your statements about communism and atheism causing murder is equally vacuous
@isaachaze1 - Wrong. You're so utterly wrong and delusional it's really just pathetic. You have NO idea what I'm talking about. Everything you assumed is wrong - which is typical when you're completely indoctrinated. You're so indoctrinated you're actually stupid. You're too stupid to perform simple arithmetic. When someone is as indoctrinated as you are 2+2=5. You're too stupid to read an original document from the French Revolution. You CAN'T read it. Stick to your textbooks dummy.
@thomaserossi Uh, I think you meant this post for someone else? It has nothing to do with what was in my post? Stay off the crack pipe maybe? Good luck in life. Have a feeling you're REALLY going to need it
@isaachaze1 - You really are indoctrinated beyond stupid. You're so beyond stupid you can't even read. If you could read and use Youtube you'd know that you tried to make a bullshit, know-nothing remark to me. I responded to your delusional, relativist, Postmodern ass. But you're so beyond stupid you cannot even use the comments tracker to check the order of the posts. No seriously! You're brain is so addled from indoctrination you cannot see that it was a clear response to relativism.
@thomaserossi No, (patiently explains), I can check the comment tracker etc; the reason I thought your comment wasn't meant for me is because it didn't relate to anything I was saying. Anyway, at this point I'm going to assume you're another internet troll seeking attention by posting meaningless contraversial comments in the desperate hope that someone will bite. My fault for wasting my time with a troll. Take care and have a good life
The problem is that FAITH, INTELLIGENCE, and PSYCHOPATHY are mutually independent (and inherited). These 3 aspects of personality are genetic have EVOLVED independently.
For example . . . A PSYCHOPATH (no conscience) can be a person with extreme FAITH and also be HIGHLY INTELLIGENT.
Any combination of these 3 "mutually exclusive" inherited personality characteristics can and do exist in the same person.
@BeardedBill86 If he did run and win, he would be assassinated before he can change anything. The power is too strong, just look what happened to the likes of JFK and MLK.
I'd hardly call Sam Harris a neo-conservative. He's a fierce critic of Christianity and the Bush administration. He's at best ambivalent on the Iraq invasion. He's pro-choice, pro-stem cell research, pro-gay marriage, in favour of greater taxes and universal health care, a fierce believer in the separation of church and state, etc, etc...
@AtticusOfAmber I'm a moderate Liberal but I have been called a fascist and a warmonger for even raising some of Hitchen's points online. Even disagreeing with the Iraq war, it is surprisingly easy to get the label neo-con hurled at you.
@AtticusOfAmber i agree. Just because he agrees that Islam is a threat doesn't make him a concervative or neo-con. I'm against Islam and i'm not a republican. The problem is that people separate themselves into groups. If you are pro choice you are a liberal and if you anti Islam you must be a concervative. People dont realize that you can be both and not relate with either side. People should be like Harris and be in the middle of the field. They should study and make a rational decision.
@2:51 Harris gives the backhanded compliment to the host and Tucker stuttered all over himself. lol
YukonBloamie 4 days ago
Sam Harris has to be one of the politest people I have ever seen.
iknowboutthat 1 week ago
"We have to be identified as human beings first. It can't be Chrisitians against Muslims against Jews"
"Amen amen amen!"
LMAO
katertots87 1 week ago
He looks like Seth Green.
MateoVegaFilms 1 week ago
After The Death Of Christopher Hitchens I Have Become Much More Grateful & Listen Much More Closely To Sam Harris..........EMBRACE These Great Free Thinkers They Are Few And Fra Between!
sammycircle 2 weeks ago
@sammycircle Lol...FAR Between!
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they do come from western europe, and thrive, as those governments have no balls to legislate against them. At our peril.
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orbital92hotmail 1 month ago
hahahah. "Amen Amen Amen"
pianomatteo 1 month ago
I agree with the careless denial that some liberals live in in the case of the cartoon issue etc,If really all muslims living in the west were fanatical and suicidal id see a few suicide bombings on my way to work and a few on my way back.
sushanalone 1 month ago
Harris makes good points in general against dogma and religion, which in our times is worst manifested in the muslim world, but what i fear is that christian rightwing hijacking and distorting his points into virulent hatred and prosecution of innocents, who could then become prime property for terrorists from outside to influence and cause chaos our society from outside.
sushanalone 1 month ago 3
@sushanalone The difference is that Islam right now is more culpable for needless human misery than Christianity has been for a long time. We should be concerned with what Muslims believe before anything else about religion concerns us.
44warjunkie 1 month ago
@44warjunkie i agree, but the underlying fact is all religions have a dormant/active potential and have been like what we see radical islam today, and if if given the right conditions can go back to that state whether its Christianity, Hinduism or any other religion.Focussing on one religion simply solves a problem temporarily, i think its time to phase religion out as an outdated way of living life.
sushanalone 1 month ago
Sam Harris made a lot of good points, very interesting clip.
ChronoTriggerMusic 1 month ago
I love how everything sam harris says, the guy agrees with, and then the reporter goes on to say "i dissagree with a lot of the things you say".
pyrea17 1 month ago
It is wrong to kill innocent people no matter what. But who killed about 100 Million (25% Children) in WWI, WWII, Vietnam, Colonial wars on Asia, Africa, Korea, Iraq, Palestine, Lebanon ... Who used Nuclear Bomb on civilians (Japan)! First to use Chemical (WWI, WWII). Unless you think nuking Children, or killing them with 1 ton Aerial bombs is more human than suicide Bombs. Get real, Western savagery dwarfs all other races combined.
arraba99 1 month ago
@arraba99 Look,the game you're playing there is a bit silly. Depending on how inclusive or exclusive you are, you get the desired results, but in reality, "the west" is just a term for the areas in the world which people have a european migration tradition and that's it. That says NOTHING about their ideas , political views, religious views etc. because they're not a unified group.
sooperfukker 1 month ago
@arraba99 It's sad to say, but everything you said is factually and verifiably true.
TheHigherVoltage 1 month ago
The destructive savagery of the "enlightened Christian” west is unparalleled in human history. And I am not taking just 20th century, which I listed below. Go back to the Crusades, boiling people alive, the war of the roses (Europe) the 100 years (Europe), Natives of America (7 Million including Children), Napoleon wars, the Holocaust, the Bolsheviks … Islam very tame and peaceful by measure. Sam and other Muslim bashers are disingenuous suffer from self-induced selective amnesia.
arraba99 1 month ago
More recently, check American atrocities in Iraq:, 250,000 civilians killed (1 Million children killed from 20 years blockade), Abu Ghraib prison, Haditha Massacre, Uranium enriched shells. Israel use of Uranium enriched shells & Phosphoric Bombs on Gaza Civilians. USA Napalm Bombs on Vietnams Civilians, agent Orange on Vietnamese forests. People in the west should get their collects heads out of their butts. Sam & his elks is just bashing Islam to justify American/Israel Wars & sell books
arraba99 1 month ago
Sam Harris phoney concern for humanity is at best misplaced, but more likely disingenuous. As American (with Jewish background) he should focus on his own backyard.
arraba99 1 month ago
Muslim, Christian, Zeusian - people who become convinced they are hearing/speaking for/or doing the work of God(s) - are the underlying threat.
TheHigherVoltage 1 month ago
While I generally agree with Sam Harris I do believe that when 50% of the 6.5 billion people on the planet live on $2 per day or less you're going to see people that are more willing to pick up a gun or strap on a bomb when they witness struggle or starvation on a daily basis.
RuleofFive 1 month ago
@RuleofFive Get slowly used to the fact that you're mistaken.
The reality is diamond clear: Really poor people are not prone to committing violence.
sooperfukker 1 month ago
@sooperfukker Mine was not an indictment of poor people. Even in horrific conditions most people are peaceful. I do think it's easier for extremism/violence to start with a lack of education/opportunity. When the Sunni Awakening militia started receiving a $10 a month stipend they stopped attacking Americans. These were the military that were thrown out of jobs after Saddam Hussein's regime collapsed in 2003. Extremisms have the easy time setting up shop in the poorest areas of the world.
RuleofFive 1 month ago
@RuleofFive That's something different: These people have been bought out of what they're doing = Action/Inaction in exchange for money. But poverty cannot have been the reason for the attacks in the first place, because the attacks couldn't have possibly eliminated the poverty.
Religious fanatics however, cannot be bought out of their thinking or their doings, because their goals cannot be paid for with money. A religios mindset makes them immune to any sort of bribery.
sooperfukker 1 month ago
@sooperfukker Its hard to express this in 500 bites but poverty/lack of education are certainly jet fuel to the fire. I think in many places the Mosque is the only functioning institution which offers a very narrow perspective at best. I just don't buy the "they hate our freedom" line. US foreign policy has often been a recruiting tool for the fanatics Harris is speaking of. I also think the number of true martyrs is small.
RuleofFive 1 month ago
@RuleofFive Well, it begs the question: Why do mosques produce violent graduates in masses and churches don't ?
And that freedom thing .. they do hate it, nothing could show that better than the infamous "freedom go to hell" sign you can find anywhere on the net.
The kind of freedom we promote, full intellectual freedom, not only threatens - but refutes - their core view of the world which constitutes their only claim to value. Islam promises superiority and we proved it to fail.
sooperfukker 1 month ago
@sooperfukker I think a small % of Mosque grads are violent as they embrace the rhetoric @ their Mosque w/o any alternative world views/persistent poverty/lack of education/bad govt. I'd bet the Muslims in this video don't have a high school education between them. Christianity produced violence after its 1st 1000 yrs with the Crusades & the Inquisition. US violence is conducted on a wider scale now. 8000 dead Americans post 9/11 vs. between 100,000 to 600,000 Iraqis/Afghans.
RuleofFive 1 month ago
@RuleofFive You can keep repeating that falsehood, it doesn't become right.
Whoever it may be, the 9/11 terrorists, the 7/7 terrorists in London, the 3/11 terrorists in spain, all of them educated members of society, just like bin laden, al sarkawi, al zawahiri, al awlaki ... the list is endless.
Islamic terrorism has nothing to do with poverty, oppression or lack of education.
Stop saying that, the reality of it makes you look like a fool.
sooperfukker 1 month ago
@RuleofFive [2] And don't start playing the numbers game,you will lose it.
You are SUPER SELECTIVE about the victims of islamic terror. Not only is the vast majority of muslims victims in Iraq killed BY MUSLIMS, you're also forgetting about the violence and oppression perpetraded by muslims all around the globe EVERY SINGLE DAY. In countries like Pakistan,muslim extremists kill people EVERY SINGLE DAY.
sooperfukker 1 month ago
@sooperfukker "Why do mosques produce violent graduates in masses and churches don't ?"
Churches produce violent graduates in masses just as mosques do - even today. Look up how Evangelical churches in Africa are still rounding up children and burning them as witches.
Or look at American Christianity, the growing fundamentalist (we are on a mission from God) types. Listen to the hate/warmongering rhetoric coming from reconstuctionists - armed and ready to kill for Jesus.
TheHigherVoltage 1 month ago
@TheHigherVoltage If you bring up a point - think it through or it will backfire.
There were indeed incidents in Africa where people were fired up by priests and commited single atrocities.
There are 2 major differences to the muslim extremists:
(1) In Africa, local paganism and tribal beliefs mix STRONGLY with the stuff the church teaches. You probably wouldn't recognise the Christianity as such down there, it's nothing like the stuff you know from USA or Europe.
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sooperfukker 1 month ago
@TheHigherVoltage
[2] The actions of these people were immediately and widely condemned by officials and prosecuted by authorities.No official would dare to speak on behalf of people who do such things.
The muslim world is an opposing mirror. The officials keep quiet or even applaud them and the authorities are reluctant to do anything about it. That's one of the reasons why ca. 100,000,000 Christians worldwide today are being persecuted and oppressed, mostly by muslims.
sooperfukker 1 month ago
@sooperfukker #1 Change the accents and it's basically the same. Not that long ago in America, believers were burning children as witches too...and if it was up to some of the hardcore Christian sects in America, they'll be labeling and burning heretics, gays, and liberals as soon as Jesus let's em.
#2 Why are you crying about being persecuted? Jesus says his followers should rejoice in being laughed at and persecuted. Not to mention...your argument is the pot calling the kettle black.
TheHigherVoltage 1 month ago
@TheHigherVoltage You really don't get the difference,do you? One of them are infact a handful of people, which are being treated by their societies as the abominations they are, the other ones represent the core of their societies and flourish in them.
sooperfukker 1 month ago
@sooperfukker I get the difference you present just fine - and it's not the big picture. Every godcult with a big enough membership (say 50 million+) has their own well established social/national/cultural strongholds - in which, their majority are 'God's righteous', and the minorities are blamed for all the problems.
You only see the world from a tiny bubble :/
There's a billion+ Hindus in India right now looking at the minority of Abrahamic cultist in their land and shaking their head.
TheHigherVoltage 1 month ago
@TheHigherVoltage Your presentation, claiming some "broader picture" is somewhat laughable. Your notion that all "major" religions are basically has simply no grounding in today's reality.
It's a matter of fact that muslims are committing masses of religiously motivated crimes every single day.
It's a matter of fact that the majority -if not all- other major religions do not produce that outcome.
It's a matter of fact that the core doctrines of Islam are violent.
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sooperfukker 1 month ago
@sooperfukker As is a fact that Christianity, throughout it's history, is a psychotic and violent against non-believers as Islam is when it has the political ability to do so.
Both have a layer of 'be good and love' covering some of the most psychotic shit imaginable. They are both based on the same 'I love you so much I'll make sure you're tortured for eternity at the drop of a hat.'
But you are right about 1 thing - it's a billion Hindus in the world. 800 or so million in India.
TheHigherVoltage 1 month ago
@TheHigherVoltage
It's a matter of fact that individual freedom is of much lesser value in muslim countries than in western countries.
It's a matter of fact that the scientific output of muslim countries equals almost zero.
It's a matter of fact that muslim countries prosecute people for not obeying, or leaving the faith.
That's got nothing to do with a "bubble" from which I'm allegedly looking at the world, these are stone cold facts.
sooperfukker 1 month ago
@sooperfukker all civilizations have gone up and down, and incidentally in those times of peaks had dominant religions.That does not mean that religions caused those breakthroughs , often scientists of that era were persecuted. Contributions of middle east during dark ages to humanity are enormous.Advances in geometry, algebra, chemistry that was deemed alchemy and illegal in christian lands, architecture,and the propogation of Indian numeric system to the west.Lets be respectful.peace
sushanalone 1 month ago
@sushanalone Islam had its cultural high times long ago, between 800-1100 AC. That was it. Since then, nothing of use has come out of the muslim world, a sad truth. Since then, it has stagnated completely. You just need to see the clothes they wear and it tells you everything about the exact spot in time when their minds stopped working.
sooperfukker 1 month ago
@sooperfukker isnt that true for all civilizations? you might call this a dark age for islam, though it has to do more with the direction the religion took a few hundred years ago, and imho needs to change , for it to get mainstream.Besides when did clothing style become a sign of civilization?
sushanalone 1 month ago
@sushanalone Since when is clothing a sign of civilisation? Since always. The lowest among us are rushing through the forests in loincloth. Sitting around in the sand wearing linen sacks isn't really far from that. The clothing of people does reflect on the civilisational level of a society very much.
sooperfukker 1 month ago
@sooperfukker you have convoluted attitude to people not similar to yourself.I dont think its worth continuing a conversation as i am sure its gona go downhill.peace
sushanalone 1 month ago
@sushanalone No problem. I also have the feeling that it'd only take 1 or 2 more posts from you to come out of the closet as a cultural and moral relativist. And yes, I love playing these like a drum.
sooperfukker 1 month ago
@sooperfukker young again child, but good try.
sushanalone 1 month ago
@TheHigherVoltage Oh btw.. you won't find a billion Hindus in India. 800 million is quite a number but they haven't reached the billion yet . And they know all too well what muslim violence looks like.
sooperfukker 1 month ago
@RuleofFive [2] If you really believe that your religion commands you to kill unbelievers and promises you an eternity of paradise andreward for it, no money or other worldly opportunity can convince you otherwise.
And these people are infact enemies of civilisation as such. I don't care if it's 1% or 10%, I say : Let's go and kill them, then we can move on and build a better society without them.
sooperfukker 1 month ago
not just liberals, but libertarians too: ron paul thinks its all america's fault as well, that the terrorists attacked us!
timmay301 1 month ago
his face at 2:56 :D
gangliums 1 month ago
@NICH0LASM It will take centuries to overcome these ideologies, at best.
BER2ERKER 1 month ago
@NICH0LASM Well, of course we couldn't do that. I meant force in other ways, not just nuking countries or killing them. We definitely couldn't use nuclear material either way, at minimum because of the fallout. I don't suggest this anyway, I just believe it will take more than conversation and more than a couple of decades to overcome it.
BER2ERKER 1 month ago
At the end he says he disagrees with a lot of what he says but he thinks he is a smart man? What an ass. Virtually nothing sam harris says can be disputed he uses logic day in day out. Anyone who disagrees doesnt know logic or rational reason at all.
NICH0LASM 1 month ago
This video confirms that Tucker Carlson is a simple-minded buffoon.
huwrj 2 months ago 15
@huwrj Did you watch the video? I agree that he is generally a jackass but he did nothing to confirm that in this video.
ultim4t32 2 weeks ago
@ultim4t32 You can see the cogs turning in Carlson's pea-brain. "Muslims bad" "Sam Harris say Islam bad... so.... Sam Harris good". He just makes fatuous statements. He brings nothing to the table.
huwrj 2 weeks ago
@huwrj and a fucking retard
omifical124 1 week ago
@TheAssymetrical Cont. and for the changes to take effect. If it were up to me, all the holy books and relics in the world would be destroyed; it would truly be a new start. The well being of our race is much more important than being nice and tolerant, sorry.
BER2ERKER 2 months ago
@TheAssymetrical Well, what? Do you think we could just ask them? Now of course we shouldn't, and never will, just kill Muslims. However, in certain countries in which the disease runs strong, some type of large scale, forced change is going to be needed. We would have to forcibly make this happen. Unfortunately there is no good or ethic solution, but that doesn't mean you let it continue. Sometimes drastic measures require drastic action. It would take generations for it to manifest, and for t
BER2ERKER 2 months ago
@BER2ERKER It is out of the question to seek to destroy all muslims. When you go into a war like for instance Libya, it is with a specific interest that can be pin pointed. Thus a majority concur the action to be good. Killing a race is akin to Adolf Hitler. If it was possible to nuke the middle east into total death it could help the world advance no doubt, but it isn't possible now.
NICH0LASM 1 month ago
It seems to me that this report concentrates on the way that Muslims are blinded by 'affiliation to their religion' when in fact that is the same with all religions. The fact that America harbours within it so many radical Christians is the reason for the war on terror. Religion is the reason for all this extreme and nonsensical acts driven by ideological madness, otherwise known as religions. Christopher Hitchens, '[They are] all just manifestations of the same untruth'
45pudding 2 months ago
I'm a big fan of Harris,but seriously? What is he actually advocating when he says that Islam is evil? Of course it fucking is, but how are we going to genuinely stop it? Keep dropping bombs on Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan? America can't even stop Conservative Christians running amok and fucking up the Political System, what MASTER plan does he propose to stop the spread of radical islam? Kill them?
TheAsymmetrical 2 months ago
Anyone else find it ironic he closed off with, "amen amen amen"?
chicagonative17 2 months ago
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It would be interesting to see some data concerning the percentage of people in the various faiths that believe in taking life to uphold their opinions. Clearly many people believe in capital punishment for religious reasons although the 'capital crimes' vary from place to place. I take Sam Harris's points very seriously but I'm also aware that the Moslems I have met over the years have all been as averagely peace-loving as the rest of us. What we need is data.
NickNakorn 2 months ago
It would be interesting to see some data concerning the percentage of people in the various faiths that believe in taking life to uphold their opinions. Clearly many people believe in capital punishment for religious reasons although the 'capital crimes vary from place to place. I take Sam Harris's points very seriously but I'm also aware that the Moslems I have met over the years have all been as averagely peace-loving as the rest of us. What we need is data.
NickNakorn 2 months ago
When did Ben Stiller start writing books?
brogcooper25 3 months ago
@brogcooper25 Right after he got his PhD in neuroscience.
davethehostage 2 months ago
@brogcooper25 Well Stiller and Mr. Harris are both very liberal.
RealTime88 2 months ago
"Give us your thesis in one sentence" = "I didnt bother to research this in any way"
jomahubo 3 months ago
2:56 = Brief Moment of Realization
GeniusCartelM 3 months ago
This is priceless how you can see Carlson thinking, "damn... I actually agree with this guy... I was supposed to be tearing him a new one, but he's making points I agree with...." And then at the end he just has to throw in there, "I disagree with a lot of the things you say". Like... well, don't forget I still don't like you!
cassnate6259 3 months ago 6
@cassnate6259 I think he agrees with Sam about the muslim terrorists believe in looney stories, but does not believes it applies to the christians (I think).
Tucker : "Amen...I disagree with a lot of things you say..."
"you're a brave man" (for talking smack about the people Im too pussy to talk about)
test123ok 2 months ago
Sam Harris is so still when he's listening to someone talk that it's just weird.
BHownsall 4 months ago
@BHownsall He's into meditation. Maybe that has something to do with it. He's always really calm and collected.
BlackJacketJones 3 months ago
i think sam is computer animated, no stupid shit argument seem to bother him :)
ceclovitch 4 months ago
sam is the man.
amindbody 4 months ago
First time I have seen sam harris wear a tie
ArticX 4 months ago
Tucker does a great job here. Sam Harris is brilliant, and sexy as hell.
194jms 5 months ago 2
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The word "homosexual" is more appropriate and accurate than the word "gay".
A person does not need religion, hatred or any kind of phobia in order to acknowledge important, qualitative differences between heterosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption and homosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption.
Homosexual activists, with support from the media, have succeeded at framing themselves as noble victims and martyrs; it's an effective way to push a social agenda.
lightandbeautiful 5 months ago
The reason why terrorists attack us are not religious dogma, but political reasons. Why is the mainstream media blind to this fact? It's not religious. It's political. If America cut off its ties with Israel today, there would be no more terrorism. That's a fact.
peteagassi 5 months ago
@peteagassi
Yeah right. America and Israel are Satan. That`s political all right.
People blow themselves up in crowded markets because America has ties with Israel.
What a load of crap.
s4m10sug1 5 months ago
@peteagassi A fact? That's ridiculous. Aside from the FACT that a hypothetical cannot be a FACT...Muslims kill other Muslims daily, simply because they have different beliefs. Tell me, why again was Theo van Gogh murdered? Or why was a fatwa issued against Salman Rushdie?
1hipster1 5 months ago
@peteagassi That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. If you remove religion from the equation all together, you really think suicide bombings would ever happen again? (Psychopathic "Ted Kaczynski's" aside, obviously).
skdjhfkdhfa 5 months ago
I admire Harris greatly. I would like to him see him get angry though, just once. He's always so calm, cucumber cool. All of his energy seems to be channeled into his brain, fueling his devastating intellect in a dazzling display of synaptic majesty.
BeyondTheTreeline 6 months ago
Religious fanatics will un-make our world.
Sweence 6 months ago
This conversation is ridiculous. They talk about muslim extremists but christian extremists are just as dangerous.
dovespin1 6 months ago 2
@dovespin1
There have been over 17,000 deadly terrorist attacks by Muslims and less than a handful by Chistians. Just as dangerous? I'm not sure I quiet understand you.
Anon12356 6 months ago
@Anon12356 An exaggeration. 17000? this week, this month, this year? less than a handful of christian terrorist attacks? really? less than 5 christian terror attacks? here are just a few that maybe you forgot; olympic bomber, multiple clinic bombings, attack on Gabby Giffords, the Norwegian bomber that killed 91, David Koresch, Timothy McVeigh, Hutaree. The list goes on. Don't keep your eyes blind to dangerous christian terrorists just because they carry the same Bible you carry.
dovespin1 6 months ago
@dovespin1
GJ You named TWO terror attacks committed by Christians in the last 10 years. thereligionofpeace(DOT)com has a full list including the amount of casualties from all terror attacks in the last 10 years (over 17500 Islamic). My eyes are not blind and I carry no Bible. I am an atheist, not a Christian, so don't blindly assume such!
It is a fact that the vast majority of terrorist attacks in orders of magnitude higher than non-Muslims are committed by Muslims.
Anon12356 6 months ago
I will accept that there may have been over a handful Christian terror attacks (although you have not demonstrated this, it seems likely this is the case), but the number of terror attacks committed by all non-Muslims together (not just Christians) doesn't even come close to 1/100th of the amount of terror attacks by Muslims.
The numbers speak for themselves. Muslim extremists ARE more dangerous than Christian ones.
Anon12356 6 months ago
@dovespin1While there are a number of people who would identify themselves as christians who have committed atrocities, there are far more in recent history who have murdered thousands in the name of islam, and many who would have no qualms about using a nuclear device in order to spread islam and stop any nation that would oppose it. The problem lies within the dogma whereby people are raised to never question their holy books and die if need be to defend them. Its ALL superstitious nonsense.
250garbear 4 months ago
@250garbear I agree, it's all superstition, and very dangerous.
dovespin1 4 months ago
Typically I can't stand Tucker, but here he does pretty well. Seems to have become(at least in this clip) a little more humble and personable in his approach.
LithiumLogica 7 months ago
i am with harris on this one
nitinlkoin1984 7 months ago
I find it ironic how they attempt to blame the insanities of the middle east solely on Islam. Certainly, fundamentalist religion makes the populus far more reactionary to trivial matters, but as they speak they show footage of what is largely reaction to international politics.
I think that should worldwide power centers relax their grip on the middle east, it would be much easier to actually begin to break down the ancient dogmas of religion there, and that fighting it alone will do little.
Keinlicht 7 months ago
In interviewer looked confused everytime sam spoke lol
TamaNewb 7 months ago
Why are books called "New York Times best seller"? Do ordinary people have to give commercial endorsements to acknowledge facts? Do you really need the New York Times to tell you which books are popular? If you heard about a hurricane via a report from Reuters would you call it the Reuters Hurricane?
Book sales are facts, facts don't belong to anybody.
MartinJWillett 7 months ago
I am a liberal but I completely agree with Harris. Don't paint all liberals with a broad brush.
pjf57 8 months ago
@pjf57
Sam Harris is fairly accurately described as a liberal as well. The point here is that liberals are far more frequently defenders of multiculturalism regardless of the cultures in question, and this tendency has caused some serious malcontent. We're lucky to see a lot more liberals speaking out against multiculturalism now, especially as it concerns the often barbaric nature of Islamic culture.
ultramerton 7 months ago
Liberals apologize for extremists in some circumstances because they are preprogramed to (1) overvalue the need for sensitivity and multicultrual acceptance (both good concepts, but liberals fail to recognize their limitations); and (2) they assume (as Harris said) Western power is to blame for all the worlds problems, including its own. Again, they over-use the concept: Western powers do cause problems, but they don't "cause" people to kill civilians in the name of God.
etsneroj 8 months ago
Denmark has all but done away with religion and is the happiest place on earth- that simple.
eriknielsen68 8 months ago 22
@eriknielsen68 : They also pussied out after pressure from Islamic countries to not publish the muhammad cartoons. You're gonna have to protect your hard earned freedoms.
sameer137 2 months ago
@sameer137 You are absolutely correct. There will always be a fight to protect something. Would be quite nice if we could have a Utopian society, but that will never happen.
eriknielsen68 2 months ago
I hate Tucker Carlson
torontoBluejays87 8 months ago
All religion sucks and is harmful. The world would undoubtedly be a better place without it. It restricts freedom of thought, denegrates critical thinking, and causes conflict the planet over! We can for sure, be good without it's codes, and would definititely be better off without its orders to ignite hatred for others of different or no religion. How can the educated world still follow this nonsense. Lets all follow Scandinavia, where it has all but disappeared. Well done to them.
sids500 9 months ago 12
I like Sam's lips.
bigbadbananaboy 9 months ago
@bigbadbananaboy I think he has lizard lips.
wesleyan97 5 months ago
no matter what your religious affiliation - Harris is right when you *critically* consider his propositon. rationality always trumps religion - period.
etherform66 9 months ago
Haha. I love how Carlson has to PREFACE his compliment to Sam at the end of the interview with "I disagree with alot that you have to say..."
capoman1 9 months ago
@capoman1 You could tell he was REALLY conflicted about what Sam was saying -- yea, yea, Islam is bad, Muslims are bad, wait, wait, not ALL religious dogma is bad lol. Poor Tucker
isaachaze1 9 months ago
Western power, like all power, IS "at heart malevolent.
I'm really disappointed by these flourishes of apologetics of Western imperialism by Sam.
It doesn't seem like there a lot of people who acknowledge that the US and its allies are the most dangerous force to ever grace the planet in its ruthless pursuit of resources and profit and at the same recognise the fundamental crimes of religion, specifically Islam.
It feels pretty lonely up here.
custardtin 10 months ago
oh god! We needed that flag for our demonstration! Guys! Stomp on it with your feet to put it out.
BLUEC0RE 10 months ago 2
finally someones ends an interview with Harris the proper way. You're a brave man. And you're very smart."
JBeezie428 10 months ago
People should listen to Sam Harris a lot more. He's right. The Muslim community will infiltrate governments in ever increasing numbers, change policy and take over. All because WE are religiously tolerant. Time to think rationally and resist ALL religious nonsense.
RATIONALMIND001 10 months ago
Sam Harris doesn't understand Cultural Marxism. He's a smart guy but doesn't understand Cultural Marxism at all. He says "Liberals" like they don't go to church. The very purpose of Liberalism is to tear down society. Liberalism has always been iconoclastic. Sam Harris is trying to argue that Liberals are Secularists. In a way that's true. But the greatest Liberals are Communists because by that token they're the most secular. It's Communism and atheists that murders more than religion.
thomaserossi 11 months ago
@thomaserossi
" It's Communism and atheists that murders more than religion."
That's just blatantly wrong, anyone that studies history and current events knows this.
You can defend religion any way you want, but at the end of the day its the facts that stand out,
and the fact is that religion has, does, and will in the future, always promote conflict.
It will do so because two thousand year old dogma does not change, and there in lies the problem.
idano67 11 months ago 8
@idano67, religion does not promote conflict. Human beings do. And human beings use religion to their own selfish ends. But this does not mean that something is wrong with religion itself, only that it is being misused.
chrisman737 2 months ago
@chrisman737 Human beings do engage in conflict, this is a fact. But the point your missing is that they need a reason to do so.
We just don't go around indiscriminately murdering people, do we ?
Religion is such a reason, within the foundation of many religions are very descriptive reasons on why one should enact violence.
idano67 2 months ago
@idano67 , I am not missing the reason. Perhaps what is missing for you is a little history. The reasons for conflict are usually acquisition of land, broadening of economic and political power, defeat of one's enemies, and centralization of one's power. Religion is usually not the reason, but is often given as a justification for the true reasons for conflict.
chrisman737 2 months ago
@chrisman737 Those are not the only reasons. The crusades are a good example, there is most definitely a religious motivation in its foundation.Suicide bombings, between different fractions of islam.
idano67 2 months ago
@idano67 , re-read my post. I did not say they were the only reasons. I said they were usually the reasons, and that religious is usually not the reason.
chrisman737 2 months ago
@chrisman737 There are many forms of religious belief that does very effectively promote and induce violence within humanity. People act on there beliefs and the notions that they hold of ultimate truth is still the driving force utilized by whomever, to achieve there goals, including religious goals.Whether you accept it or not, a lot of the goals are to enforce the "law of god" as written in there specific scriptures.
idano67 2 months ago
@idano67, try history, my friend.
chrisman737 2 months ago
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@chrisman737 It does not matter when you tell me that these people are misinterpreting the scriptures, so many people can interpret it in so many different ways, and this is a major part of the problem.
When one puts these two concepts together " interpretation and descriptive violence " as promoted in religious texts, Well....As I said, look into history and current events, I rest my case.
idano67 2 months ago
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idano67 2 months ago
@thomaserossi I think that you are making up your own definition of "liberal" (sounds like substituting it for "evil-doer" most likely) and really have no idea what that term actually means. Just so know for future reference, the purpose of liberalism is NOT to tear down society; you're thinking of anarchism, which is much different. Be careful in the use of your terms, and try not to just "throw them around". Your statements about communism and atheism causing murder is equally vacuous
isaachaze1 9 months ago
@isaachaze1 - Wrong. You're so utterly wrong and delusional it's really just pathetic. You have NO idea what I'm talking about. Everything you assumed is wrong - which is typical when you're completely indoctrinated. You're so indoctrinated you're actually stupid. You're too stupid to perform simple arithmetic. When someone is as indoctrinated as you are 2+2=5. You're too stupid to read an original document from the French Revolution. You CAN'T read it. Stick to your textbooks dummy.
thomaserossi 9 months ago
@thomaserossi Uh, I think you meant this post for someone else? It has nothing to do with what was in my post? Stay off the crack pipe maybe? Good luck in life. Have a feeling you're REALLY going to need it
isaachaze1 9 months ago
@isaachaze1 - You really are indoctrinated beyond stupid. You're so beyond stupid you can't even read. If you could read and use Youtube you'd know that you tried to make a bullshit, know-nothing remark to me. I responded to your delusional, relativist, Postmodern ass. But you're so beyond stupid you cannot even use the comments tracker to check the order of the posts. No seriously! You're brain is so addled from indoctrination you cannot see that it was a clear response to relativism.
thomaserossi 9 months ago
@thomaserossi No, (patiently explains), I can check the comment tracker etc; the reason I thought your comment wasn't meant for me is because it didn't relate to anything I was saying. Anyway, at this point I'm going to assume you're another internet troll seeking attention by posting meaningless contraversial comments in the desperate hope that someone will bite. My fault for wasting my time with a troll. Take care and have a good life
isaachaze1 9 months ago
At least the interviewer isn't a douchebag. He says 'I disagree with a lot of things you say, but I think you are a brave man.'
A LOT more civil than most newsreaders, on FOX at least.
TheBiddleMan 11 months ago 2
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Continuation . . .
Muslim men have evolved to be very aggressive (with no conscience . . . anger, rage, stonings, beheadings, amputations, killing infidels etc)
and the women have evolved to be very docile and submissive.
Both Muslim men and women have evolved to have extreme FAITH.
Extreme faith combined with aggression in men (and meekness in women) were what was required for centuries to survive in Islam religion.
AnnaMishel 1 year ago
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AnnaMishel 1 year ago
The problem is that FAITH, INTELLIGENCE, and PSYCHOPATHY are mutually independent (and inherited). These 3 aspects of personality are genetic have EVOLVED independently.
For example . . . A PSYCHOPATH (no conscience) can be a person with extreme FAITH and also be HIGHLY INTELLIGENT.
Any combination of these 3 "mutually exclusive" inherited personality characteristics can and do exist in the same person.
AnnaMishel 1 year ago 2
Left of the screen at 2:54
He wants Sam's dick
iblessedx 1 year ago
@iblessedx I don't get it... explain?
nbm953 9 months ago
Sam Harris for president.
lostnfoundguitar 1 year ago 2
It's interesting to ponder an America with Sam Harris as the president.
BeardedBill86 1 year ago 140
@BeardedBill86 I predict relations with Saudi Arabia and Pakistan would deteriorate slightly... :-P
sulljoh1 1 year ago
@BeardedBill86 I think he would make a great Senator
Nemesis000000 11 months ago
@BeardedBill86 People might be willing to make that kind of a leap after first making a leap to Ron Paul in 2012.
ryanp123456 8 months ago
@ryanp123456 lol
TamaNewb 7 months ago
@BeardedBill86 Or the head of the NIH : )
Henysheadonwall 7 months ago
@BeardedBill86 If he did run and win, he would be assassinated before he can change anything. The power is too strong, just look what happened to the likes of JFK and MLK.
ytfmichaelxu 5 months ago
@ytfmichaelxu I hear you man.
BeardedBill86 5 months ago
@BeardedBill86 He'd get shot right away.
bsgrep 4 months ago
@bsgrep Sad but quite likely.
BeardedBill86 4 months ago
How true.. those who were not indoctrinated haven't a clue as to how dangerous religion is.
How many christians are excited about armegeddon coming? Ask a few.
emeralds222 1 year ago 3
<3 Sam Harris
Olsonic 1 year ago
I'd hardly call Sam Harris a neo-conservative. He's a fierce critic of Christianity and the Bush administration. He's at best ambivalent on the Iraq invasion. He's pro-choice, pro-stem cell research, pro-gay marriage, in favour of greater taxes and universal health care, a fierce believer in the separation of church and state, etc, etc...
AtticusOfAmber 1 year ago 105
@AtticusOfAmber I'm a moderate Liberal but I have been called a fascist and a warmonger for even raising some of Hitchen's points online. Even disagreeing with the Iraq war, it is surprisingly easy to get the label neo-con hurled at you.
sulljoh1 1 year ago
@AtticusOfAmber i agree. Just because he agrees that Islam is a threat doesn't make him a concervative or neo-con. I'm against Islam and i'm not a republican. The problem is that people separate themselves into groups. If you are pro choice you are a liberal and if you anti Islam you must be a concervative. People dont realize that you can be both and not relate with either side. People should be like Harris and be in the middle of the field. They should study and make a rational decision.
44warjunkie 4 months ago
@AtticusOfAmber In other words, he's rarely wrong.
Moisty2010 4 months ago
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typical lies from the neo cons who want to take control of the world!
MrTaloul 1 year ago
@MrTaloul typical response from an idiot....
pillsareyummy 1 year ago 7