En dit zijn nederlandse stemcomputers. Ik had mooi me geld teruggevraagt als ik ierland was geweest. Die hebben 50 miljoen betaalt voor deze prut. Stelletje laaie lichters.
Ze hadden die dingen toch wel kunnen fixen met betere chips en gesealt door een notaris.
This example would require that someone is on the inside. The sad thing is almost every county is seeking poll workers for election day and none of people who are afraid of voter fraud ever apply. I'm not talking about some lame free poll watching post. I'm talking about actual paid jobs and these people spend all this time campaigning for fair elections and they wont take a paid job working at the polls. Go figure.
You're missing the point. These voting machines could have been modified long before the actual election took place. Precisely how would you verify if they had not been tampered with on election day?
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Umm, do any of you realize how easy it is to keep this stuff confidential and unhackable? It's called integration. You know, like the NOAC? Like a 256k Flash ROM (Enough for a midsized city's presidential elections) integrated with an 8086 MPU and about 512bytes of RAM, you can put a nice GUI and all that crap on a direct SCMA (single channel, multiple address) IRQ bus. But the whole point would be defeated if it stored backups in the RAM for any reason at all, in any way.
You are not being sarcastic are you, because if you are, this would not need to be done at any particular place, it could be done anywhere along the line...which is many places.
This is a Dutch or German voting machine branded Nedap, not used in USA elections. This movie was made to proof a point in a German lawsuit. You can read all about it: search Google for Blackbag Toool (right, triple 'o')
They did not manipulate a machine that was in use in an actual vote, they just proofed how extremely easy those things can be manipulated. They even wrote a chess Program for the Nedap voting computers.
Our government claims those machines are safe because it is forbidden to manipulate a vote. Yeah right... THAT worked in the US so far... and of course there is no crime on planet earth, because it is forbidden by law.
Two elections officials in Ohio are in jail for rigging an election. Election rigging isn't done by voters, it is done by elections officials and company technicians. They make the machines this easy to rig because they go into the warehouse before the election and rig hundreds of them at a time. And the voting public has no way to ever know it because the people who rig the elections are the ones who control access to the machines before and after the elections.
The RNC Servers are what really did the adjustments in the tallies.... forget the machines, though they really are part of the problem and really illegal because they have secret software which is against the dictates of the HAVA act, oh, the sponsor thereof is now in jail,, Bob Ney? remember him?
but seriously a lock or something but this is probably an inside job and how did these people get a machine seriously i would like to know are you actually witnessing someone hacking these things and by the way all you people bashing bush remember he wasn't that crazy Intel he was re-elected before that most people supported him
Well thats my rant talk to me at psycodrew at rock dot com
They got those voting machines donated by a few sane communitys that actually recognized what a bunch of crap they are. It is not an inside job, the technology behind those machines is basically an early nineties homecomputer.
And yes there are locks on those things... and you can freely buy the suitable keys. Not that locks couldn't be picked anyway.
I love it how some people think because there are actually locks on these things that is going to keep someone from tampering with them. What there tiny brains don't seem to understand is that it's not going to be any regular Joe braking into these things, it's going to be someone who knows what the hell their doing and is backed with BIG money.
you're right anyone who wants to manipulate the election has to be involved in the process. you dont need big money, an internet connection and a few bucks for programmingsoftware and -hardware are enough. Hell, you dont need to be an professionel programmer either. the programms used in those EPROMs are rather easy and could be done by studying some books.
one word epoxy thats all it would take to keep people from removing them but they could have used tamper proof screws or even soldered it down but i know why they made them so easy to dissemble because they need to be able to be repaired quickly in time for elections
Ok, thats cool, there's not much physical security, but what about electronic security? before changing the roms can make a difference, you need NEW roms with NEW code on them.. where do you get code to start from?... dont know many voting places that will let you in twice... and if you tamper with a machine im betting they'll just blacklist it from the system, or they have them set up on some sort of access control list..
you hit it right on the head there, i think. if the numbers function the way, say, a mac address does, then the mismatched numbers could just prevent the thing from working at all
the problem is that the manunfactor didnt thought that far and didnt include such features. according to a dossier of the german CCC (not related to the KKK ;-)) the mechanical seals could be easily bypassed (or even replaced concidering that an insider will do the job). a pro pos insider, inyone who wants to corrupt the election would be involved in the process so he or she has access to the votingmachines.
Ok, notice there is three people working on it, one with a screw driver. Now, by what I've seen, I don't see three people go in at once and make so much noise and nobody notices.
I think you're missing the point. It's impractical of course for anyone to do this on voting day. Anyone who attempts as such should probly be shot if just to filter the gene pool of such stupidity. And even if you did get in and change the ROM, that's really only the first part of your task if you plan on corrupting the vote system. This video demonstrates the potential danger of inside-job corruption, not general joe-shmoe dishonesty.
A program was just released on the Discovery Times channel (bout the CIA) suggesting that Pres. Kennedy badmouthed the CIA, and that Bush senior helped to have him whacked. I don't know about all this, but it would suck if the best President we had was killed over oil and profit. Kennedy made a speech a couple of days before he was killed saying that there is a plot to foment the American people...
Haha, Wikipedia isn't always right. It's posted by people like you who want to down talk Bush. These people are showing how Vulnerable they are, too bad they are guarded to where you can't get to them...
That's funny. I don't remember there being a guard inside the voting booth the last few times I've voted. He must've been wearing an invisibility cloak so I didn't know he was watching my votes.
Where the hell do you get that? There is a 10 year maximum time in office, 2 full terms, and a possible 2 years if you are a VP and the president dies.
Considering the fact that stupid americans voted Bush into office, TWICE, maybe this is just what we need to prevent something like that from happening again.
I resent that because I'm an American and didn't vote for the jerk. Secondly, I regret knowing that even if I defect to another country I'll still be considered an American.
Uh, wouldn't this provide at least the suggestion of proof that we DIDN'T elect him twice?
You really think the guys that designed these ballot machines didn't know full-well how NOT secure they are? I take a video like this as proof that we can't trust past results any more than we can trust future results without a serious change in tech.
Bush won on a paper recount by hand, that Kerry demanded. I don't think these machines being insecure could have changed that much. Besides, all the other hackers I know a very liberal, why hack a machine to vote conservative? It would seem odd for a group of people who want to move forward (and left) to want to cause a person who wants things to stay the same (the right) to be in office. Just a thought.
I hope you're right. However, people are people and money talks, regardless of party/social slant. Try googling Clint Curtis and see what you come up with. I'm not saying Bush isn't our rightful president (as "decided" in 2000 and in 2004), I'm just saying that we'll never know for sure and vids like this reinforce that concern. This isn't about politics--I don't care what Gore/Kerry wanted. I'm just after a system where EVER ballot is DEFINITELY counted--unlike the one we've got now.
Bush didn't win the proper paper recount in 2004, check wikipedia if you wish. plus a paper recount doesn't account for paperless voting machine errors. Also I know of quite a few very republican hacks that have gotten into the news recently so what you just said doesn't fit reality too well.
With one screwdriver and two chips...
Met een schroevendraaier en twee chips...
douro20 10 months ago
Where the welds ?
Tala2n 1 year ago
built to be hacked. may that be known.
trisky1234 1 year ago 2
En dit zijn nederlandse stemcomputers. Ik had mooi me geld teruggevraagt als ik ierland was geweest. Die hebben 50 miljoen betaalt voor deze prut. Stelletje laaie lichters.
Ze hadden die dingen toch wel kunnen fixen met betere chips en gesealt door een notaris.
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brookeashley105 2 years ago
15 seconds less using an automatic screw driver :P
N4ch007 3 years ago 10
With this speed they have loads of time to 'fix' everything for the next elections...
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dark3lotas 3 years ago
j'les ai reconnu!!!..... LOL :D
FabienCL44 3 years ago
ne fun here
connortookey 3 years ago
This example would require that someone is on the inside. The sad thing is almost every county is seeking poll workers for election day and none of people who are afraid of voter fraud ever apply. I'm not talking about some lame free poll watching post. I'm talking about actual paid jobs and these people spend all this time campaigning for fair elections and they wont take a paid job working at the polls. Go figure.
kent4congress 3 years ago
You're missing the point. These voting machines could have been modified long before the actual election took place. Precisely how would you verify if they had not been tampered with on election day?
brucevdk 2 years ago
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xxx499 3 years ago
LMAO! I saw a Bald Head!!
Darkuser1000 3 years ago
haha this is so leet
Zuljiin 3 years ago
Now you just need to sneak three dudes into a voting booth!!! Time to bust out the 13 foot long trenchcoat!
ralphredimix 3 years ago
what is this video showing? im confuzzled lol
Taylor1320 3 years ago
It shows how easy it is to fake any elections that use electronic voting machines
BonifacijJ 3 years ago 16
say no to e-voting
ThePerfectPresident 4 years ago 4
pwnt
CradLeRcker 4 years ago
Is it me or did the government say that e-voting is flawless!?
ursusarctosuk 4 years ago 5
Mit dem Ding wurden grad Wahlen in Hessen veranstaltet...
rednaxx 4 years ago
verunstaltet, meinst du wohl ^^
sux0r1z0r 4 years ago
oversight on all our gambling machines, but absolutly none for voting machines......
twopotatoesonecarrot 4 years ago 2
its better then having a king that no one can vote for!
sirsean12 4 years ago
Umm, do any of you realize how easy it is to keep this stuff confidential and unhackable? It's called integration. You know, like the NOAC? Like a 256k Flash ROM (Enough for a midsized city's presidential elections) integrated with an 8086 MPU and about 512bytes of RAM, you can put a nice GUI and all that crap on a direct SCMA (single channel, multiple address) IRQ bus. But the whole point would be defeated if it stored backups in the RAM for any reason at all, in any way.
techforumz 4 years ago 2
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Anyone know any rom websites where you can download english translated japanese roms plz?
ancientsoul87 4 years ago
sad
jehst 4 years ago
Gosh. That type of activity wouldn't be noticed in a polling place would it?
TofuTheGreat 4 years ago
E.g. Whomever is volunteering at the voting office or working in a storage area could just do it while others are off on their coffee brake.
rongvk 4 years ago
You are not being sarcastic are you, because if you are, this would not need to be done at any particular place, it could be done anywhere along the line...which is many places.
kukulcan12 4 years ago
You can steal an election faster than you can steal a car... Am I the only one worried by this?
OmnipotentEntity 4 years ago
no you arent. we had voting machines like this in france, and it's not a rumor; none of them were sealed.
our republican-neocons wons again.
kayanamasha 4 years ago
Is that how Nixon won by a landslide?
Entropy56 4 years ago
You are crazy
Jullie (makers filmpje) zijn niet goed wijs/gek
dannylinkers1 4 years ago
This is a Dutch or German voting machine branded Nedap, not used in USA elections. This movie was made to proof a point in a German lawsuit. You can read all about it: search Google for Blackbag Toool (right, triple 'o')
wvsn 4 years ago
This is Dutch, just know where youre talking albout, gee.. does the URL given in de description say something to you? ***.NL
xBitage 4 years ago
People making this computer malfunction suck! Almost the same as if you would disable the brakes of the prime-ministers carr. Get a life!
McArtRidge 4 years ago
They did not manipulate a machine that was in use in an actual vote, they just proofed how extremely easy those things can be manipulated. They even wrote a chess Program for the Nedap voting computers.
Our government claims those machines are safe because it is forbidden to manipulate a vote. Yeah right... THAT worked in the US so far... and of course there is no crime on planet earth, because it is forbidden by law.
alizta 4 years ago
Two elections officials in Ohio are in jail for rigging an election. Election rigging isn't done by voters, it is done by elections officials and company technicians. They make the machines this easy to rig because they go into the warehouse before the election and rig hundreds of them at a time. And the voting public has no way to ever know it because the people who rig the elections are the ones who control access to the machines before and after the elections.
mymarkx 4 years ago
do a google on "cyber election hit squad" and find info on the RNC servers and their implication in changing tallies. It = about 125,000 hits
dael4 4 years ago
The RNC Servers are what really did the adjustments in the tallies.... forget the machines, though they really are part of the problem and really illegal because they have secret software which is against the dictates of the HAVA act, oh, the sponsor thereof is now in jail,, Bob Ney? remember him?
dael4 4 years ago
but seriously a lock or something but this is probably an inside job and how did these people get a machine seriously i would like to know are you actually witnessing someone hacking these things and by the way all you people bashing bush remember he wasn't that crazy Intel he was re-elected before that most people supported him
Well thats my rant talk to me at psycodrew at rock dot com
psycodrew1 4 years ago
They got those voting machines donated by a few sane communitys that actually recognized what a bunch of crap they are. It is not an inside job, the technology behind those machines is basically an early nineties homecomputer.
And yes there are locks on those things... and you can freely buy the suitable keys. Not that locks couldn't be picked anyway.
alizta 4 years ago
I love it how some people think because there are actually locks on these things that is going to keep someone from tampering with them. What there tiny brains don't seem to understand is that it's not going to be any regular Joe braking into these things, it's going to be someone who knows what the hell their doing and is backed with BIG money.
kukulcan12 4 years ago 3
you're right anyone who wants to manipulate the election has to be involved in the process. you dont need big money, an internet connection and a few bucks for programmingsoftware and -hardware are enough. Hell, you dont need to be an professionel programmer either. the programms used in those EPROMs are rather easy and could be done by studying some books.
JoacinoDaGona 4 years ago 2
one word epoxy thats all it would take to keep people from removing them but they could have used tamper proof screws or even soldered it down but i know why they made them so easy to dissemble because they need to be able to be repaired quickly in time for elections
psycodrew1 4 years ago
Oops sorry - that was meant to be a comment nealhead, not a standalone comment. my bad.
Daemonolatry 4 years ago
Ok, thats cool, there's not much physical security, but what about electronic security? before changing the roms can make a difference, you need NEW roms with NEW code on them.. where do you get code to start from?... dont know many voting places that will let you in twice... and if you tamper with a machine im betting they'll just blacklist it from the system, or they have them set up on some sort of access control list..
Geeky907 4 years ago
you hit it right on the head there, i think. if the numbers function the way, say, a mac address does, then the mismatched numbers could just prevent the thing from working at all
Daemonolatry 4 years ago
the problem is that the manunfactor didnt thought that far and didnt include such features. according to a dossier of the german CCC (not related to the KKK ;-)) the mechanical seals could be easily bypassed (or even replaced concidering that an insider will do the job). a pro pos insider, inyone who wants to corrupt the election would be involved in the process so he or she has access to the votingmachines.
JoacinoDaGona 4 years ago
Ok, notice there is three people working on it, one with a screw driver. Now, by what I've seen, I don't see three people go in at once and make so much noise and nobody notices.
nealhead 4 years ago
I think you're missing the point. It's impractical of course for anyone to do this on voting day. Anyone who attempts as such should probly be shot if just to filter the gene pool of such stupidity. And even if you did get in and change the ROM, that's really only the first part of your task if you plan on corrupting the vote system. This video demonstrates the potential danger of inside-job corruption, not general joe-shmoe dishonesty.
Daemonolatry 4 years ago
I bet that they could speed that up with an electric screwdriver.
I know that helps speed up regular computer work :)
poisomike87 4 years ago
Me and my team could do that little switch of ROM's in a little under 40 seconds, it is really simple.
e-mail me if you want to try
utubelover159 4 years ago
Bushes campaign for 2000 was a Blueprint for America. New world order anyone? How bout some verichip?
I think the world will grow stunted in captivity, but could it all be for the best?
godofdefire 4 years ago
A program was just released on the Discovery Times channel (bout the CIA) suggesting that Pres. Kennedy badmouthed the CIA, and that Bush senior helped to have him whacked. I don't know about all this, but it would suck if the best President we had was killed over oil and profit. Kennedy made a speech a couple of days before he was killed saying that there is a plot to foment the American people...
godofdefire 4 years ago
Haha, Wikipedia isn't always right. It's posted by people like you who want to down talk Bush. These people are showing how Vulnerable they are, too bad they are guarded to where you can't get to them...
nealhead 4 years ago
@nealhead
That's funny. I don't remember there being a guard inside the voting booth the last few times I've voted. He must've been wearing an invisibility cloak so I didn't know he was watching my votes.
macphile 4 years ago
wtf the roms are not secure... sounds like bush work to me...
chris832 4 years ago
nice, i just feel so sneeky even watching it.......
nglad1 4 years ago
Cool. Secure is much as it can be :D
modrak 4 years ago
luckily he can only serve 2 terms
GrimResistance 4 years ago
2 terms in a row, then he has to take at least 1 term off. Then he CAN run again.
bigmacattacks 4 years ago
Where the hell do you get that? There is a 10 year maximum time in office, 2 full terms, and a possible 2 years if you are a VP and the president dies.
hack124x768 4 years ago
Considering the fact that stupid americans voted Bush into office, TWICE, maybe this is just what we need to prevent something like that from happening again.
Saml01 4 years ago
Yeah seriously... it wouldn't surprise me one bit if something like actually reveals itself to be how the douche we have here now got elected. :P
Indeed, this video is really cool, but also unsettling.
Daemonolatry 4 years ago
I resent that because I'm an American and didn't vote for the jerk. Secondly, I regret knowing that even if I defect to another country I'll still be considered an American.
Steveg20001 4 years ago
Uh, wouldn't this provide at least the suggestion of proof that we DIDN'T elect him twice?
You really think the guys that designed these ballot machines didn't know full-well how NOT secure they are? I take a video like this as proof that we can't trust past results any more than we can trust future results without a serious change in tech.
thepetecom 4 years ago
Bush won on a paper recount by hand, that Kerry demanded. I don't think these machines being insecure could have changed that much. Besides, all the other hackers I know a very liberal, why hack a machine to vote conservative? It would seem odd for a group of people who want to move forward (and left) to want to cause a person who wants things to stay the same (the right) to be in office. Just a thought.
hack124x768 4 years ago
I hope you're right. However, people are people and money talks, regardless of party/social slant. Try googling Clint Curtis and see what you come up with. I'm not saying Bush isn't our rightful president (as "decided" in 2000 and in 2004), I'm just saying that we'll never know for sure and vids like this reinforce that concern. This isn't about politics--I don't care what Gore/Kerry wanted. I'm just after a system where EVER ballot is DEFINITELY counted--unlike the one we've got now.
thepetecom 4 years ago
Bush didn't win the proper paper recount in 2004, check wikipedia if you wish. plus a paper recount doesn't account for paperless voting machine errors. Also I know of quite a few very republican hacks that have gotten into the news recently so what you just said doesn't fit reality too well.
locketine 4 years ago
Wow, this thing is so uber secure. I'd trust it about as far as I can throw it.
rmadmin 4 years ago
Damn...
cafriend 4 years ago
Das wird die Wasserköpfe von Befürwortern auch nicht überzeugen. *seufz*
sublog1c 4 years ago