Than see Americans make a living. That is why I say the rich HATE AMERICAN MIDDLE class becuz the BOTTOM LINE is more important than American progress.
@ravenocho8 Texas a very conservative state with low taxes, have created more jobs and business than the whole country combined. Also New Hampshire a low tax state is one of the most successful. While California a high tax and liberal state is now bankrupt, and New York has a huge deficit. Also Detroit once a successful city became a liberal and pro-union city is now broke. Facts speak for themselves. Liberals and socialists have destructive financial policies
@firespinguy Yeah, he has created jobs(PERRY) but the pay is greatly reduced for the WORKERS. Texas is at the bottom in the country for HEALTH CARE, EDUCATION, and Pay for employees. So like I said REPUBLICANS/CORPORATIONS hate the American middle class. Reagan had tax cuts- HE KILLED JOBS with the TRICKLE DOWN THEORY. W. Bush approved record tax cuts-unemployment went from 6% to 8.5. Corporation FIRE people even thought they get TAX CUTS for being "JOB CREATORS"! GREED is why they go to CHINA!
@ravenocho8 Liberal California, New York, and Detroit have terrible education, high corruption, no jobs, bankrupt, and Texas is doing way better than they are. Trickle down theory worked better than any other solution. Government waste money, and do not produce ANYTHING. Before unions became greedy, not many companies ran overseas. Obama raised taxes and unemployement INCREASED AT A FASTER. Yes, he did raise taxes, search in google "Obama tax tale" and click on factcheck
@firespinguy When did Obama raise taxes? That is a LIE he continued the Bush TAX cuts twice! Only NEO CONSERVATIVES believe that lie. As a matter of fact, Obama has been continuing all of Bush's programs; prescription drugs, tax cuts for the rich, guantanamo, surge in IRAQ/afghanistan. That's why we loss jobs. You tea party types wanna blame the economy on Obama but the economywas in a deep hole becuz of your RICH CORP/banks major GREED! The taxpayers paid for it, and still our jobs go to CHINA.
@ravenocho8 I gave you directions where a NONPARTISON gave details of obama raised taxes. Did you even look? Obama didn't raise federal taxes, but others. Go back to factcheck . org .Also china is not a enemy or ally, just a US business party. We never went to war with china, and it Union fault jobs is leaving the US in droves. Keeping believing in the unions all you want, but they can't help you if have no jobs.
@firespinguy We are in a economic and cyber war with CHINA. Plus how long has it been OKAY to embrace communists(china) demonise SOCIALISM(Europe)? It's funny how you HATE liberal so-called lies, but you had NO PROBLEM with every lie and act of treason from the BUSH administration. Scooter Libby OUTTED a CIA agent where was your anger then? What lies has Barack told? You and your ilk (glenn BECK) make up lies about the president that YOU can't back up with facts. Where were you when BUSH LIED?
@ravenocho8 I don't embrace communists, but I don't care what they do in their country as long as communism is not in the USA. Scumbag socialists always try to bring socialism into the US. If socialism stays in Europe I don't care, as long as it is not in the US. If the US and companies find it to be beneficial to do business internationally that is fine. If someone don't like jobs going overseas, then don't continue to raise taxes, unions, and doing what would make them do so, its common sense
@firespinguy Of course you embrace COMMUNISM, if you do business with a criminal, that is guilt by association. Your IDEAS are destroying the very root of AMERICA. Americans shouldn't have to compete with the ENEMY. The top 2 percent got 800 billion in tax cuts, sitting on 2 trillion of profits, wHY WOULDN'T you pay more to keep the COUNTRY strong?Why do you hire illegals and give revenue to CHINA? US companies get TAX loopholes and refuse to hire AMERICANS, to save a Few hundred million? WHY?
@ravenocho8 That is ridculously and false, there no guilt by association between two countries. Socialists is destroying America, as these problems didn't start until high taxes, unions, began. This is a FACT, something Liberals ignore. The founding fathers were pro-busines and laide the foundation of capitalism.
@firespinguy The founding fathers were SLAVE owners, and were made rich by not paying their WORKERS. And that is exactly what corporations want to go back to; indentured(sic?) SERVITUDE! I agree Dems want illegals for VOTES, but Repubs want illegals for the CHEAP LABOR. That's why I am PRO AMERICAN not PRO-PARTY. Name one socialist policy practiced in AMERICA? Too BIG TO FAIL? Corporate WELFARE? Taxes have been cut for corporations for the last 10 years, yet NO JOBS have been created. WHY?
@ravenocho8 The very reason America was founded and separated from the British Government is because of high taxes, something else Liberals ignore.
Democrats want illegals in America not republicans, do you keep up in the news? Saving money helps companies to GROW to create JOBS, NOT TAXES OR UNIONS. If you can do better then start your own business. This conversation is done.
@firespinguy So it's greedy of UNIONS to ask for wages that help AMERICANS maintain a livable existince, BUT it is not GREEDY for a CEO to fire 20,000 employees just so he/she can buy 3 yachts? I don't get your logic. If a CEO makes 15 million a year, why can't they make 10 million a year so employees can keep their jobs? Republicans want to take away unions so they can turn AMERICAN workers into CHINESE workers(200 bucks a month pay.) Republicans and Businesses hate the AMERICAN middle class!
@ravenocho8 You don't check any of the factual resources I point you towards or provide any proof your claims. Republicans are majority middle class. Your liberal socialist policies failed around the world and is destructive. It is a waste of time talking to you. I love my country, but hate the present liberal government, their lies and policies. Thankfully many Americans agree with me and are pushing out liberals as the Novermber elections shown, and it will only grow from there
Than see Americans make a living. That is why I say the rich HATE AMERICAN MIDDLE class becuz the BOTTOM lINE is more important than American progress.
Than see Americans make a living. That is why IO say the rich HATE AMERICAN MIDDLE class becuz the BOTTOM lINE is more important than American progress.
@jaystyles007 Nothing is wrong with helping, the problem I see with those who say "spread the wealth" are usually socialists or those who are envious about what others have. We already have programs in the US to help people, it is up to them to use it. Just look at the nasty comments made about her, on youtube and other sites. Those people don't need help, they are just jealous and socialist..
@firespinguy (Continued from below) Her husband choice to marry her, so he had to deal with the consquences to divorce her. Also chances are she gave more to charity by choice and by taxes, then any of the people who condemn her. Most people who mocked her don't even give anything themselves. Even when the rich waste their money, they are still putting the money back into the economy which in eventually provide jobs in society. The money don't just disappear.
@jaystyles007 Yeah, but the money is still hers from the legal system. I don't like alimoney paid divorcees so much, but it is none of my business and that is a personal matter between her, ex-husband and the court. It doesn't matter whether anyone need 1 billion dollars, it is theirs/hers money and no one business. It is good to give to worthy causes, but it should be volunteered, because no one is responsible to save the world, nor do everyone value the same thing.
@jaystyles007 It is great you want to help people out, but this is off topic and we know that most people who are mocking her are just jealous of her past wealth. Warren Buffet chooses to give away most of his wealth, and these same "spread the wealth" people, still bash Bufffet for being wealthy in first place. That is ridiculous and prove they're losers and socialists. They act as if they are entitled something from someone they don't know.
@firespinguy Barack Hussein Obama is redistributing the wealth from fraud against me. I am Honey Robin Siegal. Crooked attorneys including Barry & Michelle & DHS Janet are engaged in manipulating MY money. They are engaged in Rico from my co. of Zenadev and bank and court records of me dead.
Just one honest judge and a writ of habeous corpus declaring me alive and I enforce a special power of attorney given to me by ? and the US is back in business.
@firespinguy I'm glad you feel that way about CORPORATE WELFARE. I am tired of the rich taking the WORKING CLASS' money, when THEY are too dumb and lazy to work for it. This bitch sucked and fucked her way to her riches. And then like a true WHORE she BLEW it away.
@ravenocho8 I am against all forms of welfare entitlement. The banks who failed do not deserve to be bailed by the government just like someone do not deserve to be paid by the government from taking someone's else money just because they have more. At least the banks pay back the money with interest though, but the later do not. The rich as a whole do not take the working class money in USA, and it was proven they pay most of the taxes in the USA anyway.
@firespinguy They should pay more than the rest of us, but they don't. The RICH are taxed as a whole @ 18%. Under Clinton-36% we had a surplus. Under Truman MORE THAN 50%- we had a booming MIDDLE CLASS. The Rich and republicans Hate the middle class, and they HATE this country. If they didn't they would pay more and STOP shipping our jobs to ENEMIES of the STATE(CHINA)! You call it SOCIALISM(which is by definition WRONG). The middle class makes America an ECENOMIC power not the rich.
@ravenocho8 Since majority of republicans are middle class, that is a lie that they "Hate the middle class" or the country. The founding fathers were against and did not create wealth distribution or welfare, but the socialists and left did. Most of the companies that sent jobs overseas were UNION JOBS. The unions make it very expensive to run in the US. The top 25% pay 82.9 % of the taxes. The rich also create the highest paying jobs, this is a fact.
@ravenocho8 To continue on The clintion surplus was a myth. It was found out the government was really taking money from social security fund to make the deficet look smaller!
@firespinguy The majority of REPUBLICAN VOTERS are middle class, not the people they vote for. The people they vote for are and always have been PRO BUSINESS until the Late 70's/early 80's when they duped the WHITE CHRISTIANS with MORAL issues. When have tax-cuts for the rich PRODUCED jobs? NEVER. Unions are needed to keep things fair for the avg. AMERICAN worker. When you say UNION jopbs are expensive, what are you comparing that too? SLAVE LABOR in CHINA! You would rather feed communist?
@ravenocho8 The majority of Democrat politicians also arenot middle class, and I don;t care about a politian's personal wealth. I am pro business. Where is your proof tax cuts never created jobs? Because statistics would say you are wrong. Unions today do whatever they can to suck money out of business more so than help Americans. That is why business now leave. Keep promoting unions, and you will lose jobs, and the people who have the ability and talent to create them to China.
@firespinguy Just like Bush keeping the war budget separate from the Nat'l budget, too make his numbers look better? Clinton had a surplus, Bush stole all the money out of the bank and gave it to his friends. Don't use bullshit in a debate, you seem wiser than that.
@ravenocho8 If I am business owner, have to pay higher taxes, and worry about a Union raising my expenses and paying more for work than it is worth, why would I higher more employees? That only hurts my business. If I can get more work done for cheaper overseas without the trouble of unions than any intelligent business owner would move if they don't want their business to suffer. Raising taxes, increasing unions, while expecting business owners to willing take all the risk is insane.
@firespinguy Then I say any corporation dealing with enemies of the state for their own greedy profits, is a traitor. And should be quadruple taxed on their products made in other countries. Can you imagine if a business sent jobs to the SOVIET UNION during the COLD WAR? That company would have been BOYCOTTED and rightly so. What's the difference with sending jobs to CHINA? CEO's are making record profits, HOW MANY MILLIONS/BILLIONS do you NEED? Before you start thinking about your countrys fate
@ravenocho8 Again Clinton never had a surplus, that was a lie by liberal media. This was proven to be a lie as Clinton ran deficits throughout all 8 terms. He borrowed money from social security and other funds. Search in google "Clinton Surplus Myth" .That is why the liberal media no longer claim Clintion had a surplus, because they were caught in their lies. Only unaware or hardcore democrats/ liberals still believe that. If you keep claiming that myth it is a waste of time speaking to you.
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MrMrBilko 8 months ago
Than see Americans make a living. That is why I say the rich HATE AMERICAN MIDDLE class becuz the BOTTOM LINE is more important than American progress.
ravenocho8 8 months ago
@ravenocho8 Texas a very conservative state with low taxes, have created more jobs and business than the whole country combined. Also New Hampshire a low tax state is one of the most successful. While California a high tax and liberal state is now bankrupt, and New York has a huge deficit. Also Detroit once a successful city became a liberal and pro-union city is now broke. Facts speak for themselves. Liberals and socialists have destructive financial policies
firespinguy 8 months ago
@firespinguy Yeah, he has created jobs(PERRY) but the pay is greatly reduced for the WORKERS. Texas is at the bottom in the country for HEALTH CARE, EDUCATION, and Pay for employees. So like I said REPUBLICANS/CORPORATIONS hate the American middle class. Reagan had tax cuts- HE KILLED JOBS with the TRICKLE DOWN THEORY. W. Bush approved record tax cuts-unemployment went from 6% to 8.5. Corporation FIRE people even thought they get TAX CUTS for being "JOB CREATORS"! GREED is why they go to CHINA!
ravenocho8 8 months ago
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firespinguy 8 months ago
@ravenocho8 Liberal California, New York, and Detroit have terrible education, high corruption, no jobs, bankrupt, and Texas is doing way better than they are. Trickle down theory worked better than any other solution. Government waste money, and do not produce ANYTHING. Before unions became greedy, not many companies ran overseas. Obama raised taxes and unemployement INCREASED AT A FASTER. Yes, he did raise taxes, search in google "Obama tax tale" and click on factcheck
firespinguy 8 months ago
@firespinguy When did Obama raise taxes? That is a LIE he continued the Bush TAX cuts twice! Only NEO CONSERVATIVES believe that lie. As a matter of fact, Obama has been continuing all of Bush's programs; prescription drugs, tax cuts for the rich, guantanamo, surge in IRAQ/afghanistan. That's why we loss jobs. You tea party types wanna blame the economy on Obama but the economywas in a deep hole becuz of your RICH CORP/banks major GREED! The taxpayers paid for it, and still our jobs go to CHINA.
ravenocho8 8 months ago
@ravenocho8 I gave you directions where a NONPARTISON gave details of obama raised taxes. Did you even look? Obama didn't raise federal taxes, but others. Go back to factcheck . org .Also china is not a enemy or ally, just a US business party. We never went to war with china, and it Union fault jobs is leaving the US in droves. Keeping believing in the unions all you want, but they can't help you if have no jobs.
firespinguy 8 months ago
@firespinguy We are in a economic and cyber war with CHINA. Plus how long has it been OKAY to embrace communists(china) demonise SOCIALISM(Europe)? It's funny how you HATE liberal so-called lies, but you had NO PROBLEM with every lie and act of treason from the BUSH administration. Scooter Libby OUTTED a CIA agent where was your anger then? What lies has Barack told? You and your ilk (glenn BECK) make up lies about the president that YOU can't back up with facts. Where were you when BUSH LIED?
ravenocho8 8 months ago
@ravenocho8 I don't embrace communists, but I don't care what they do in their country as long as communism is not in the USA. Scumbag socialists always try to bring socialism into the US. If socialism stays in Europe I don't care, as long as it is not in the US. If the US and companies find it to be beneficial to do business internationally that is fine. If someone don't like jobs going overseas, then don't continue to raise taxes, unions, and doing what would make them do so, its common sense
firespinguy 8 months ago
@firespinguy Of course you embrace COMMUNISM, if you do business with a criminal, that is guilt by association. Your IDEAS are destroying the very root of AMERICA. Americans shouldn't have to compete with the ENEMY. The top 2 percent got 800 billion in tax cuts, sitting on 2 trillion of profits, wHY WOULDN'T you pay more to keep the COUNTRY strong?Why do you hire illegals and give revenue to CHINA? US companies get TAX loopholes and refuse to hire AMERICANS, to save a Few hundred million? WHY?
ravenocho8 8 months ago
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firespinguy 8 months ago
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@ravenocho8 That is ridculously and false, there no guilt by association between two countries. Socialists is destroying America, as these problems didn't start until high taxes, unions, began. This is a FACT, something Liberals ignore. The founding fathers were pro-busines and laide the foundation of capitalism.
firespinguy 8 months ago
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firespinguy 8 months ago
@firespinguy The founding fathers were SLAVE owners, and were made rich by not paying their WORKERS. And that is exactly what corporations want to go back to; indentured(sic?) SERVITUDE! I agree Dems want illegals for VOTES, but Repubs want illegals for the CHEAP LABOR. That's why I am PRO AMERICAN not PRO-PARTY. Name one socialist policy practiced in AMERICA? Too BIG TO FAIL? Corporate WELFARE? Taxes have been cut for corporations for the last 10 years, yet NO JOBS have been created. WHY?
ravenocho8 8 months ago
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@ravenocho8 The very reason America was founded and separated from the British Government is because of high taxes, something else Liberals ignore.
Democrats want illegals in America not republicans, do you keep up in the news? Saving money helps companies to GROW to create JOBS, NOT TAXES OR UNIONS. If you can do better then start your own business. This conversation is done.
firespinguy 8 months ago
@firespinguy So it's greedy of UNIONS to ask for wages that help AMERICANS maintain a livable existince, BUT it is not GREEDY for a CEO to fire 20,000 employees just so he/she can buy 3 yachts? I don't get your logic. If a CEO makes 15 million a year, why can't they make 10 million a year so employees can keep their jobs? Republicans want to take away unions so they can turn AMERICAN workers into CHINESE workers(200 bucks a month pay.) Republicans and Businesses hate the AMERICAN middle class!
ravenocho8 8 months ago
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firespinguy 8 months ago
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@ravenocho8 You don't check any of the factual resources I point you towards or provide any proof your claims. Republicans are majority middle class. Your liberal socialist policies failed around the world and is destructive. It is a waste of time talking to you. I love my country, but hate the present liberal government, their lies and policies. Thankfully many Americans agree with me and are pushing out liberals as the Novermber elections shown, and it will only grow from there
firespinguy 8 months ago
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Than see Americans make a living. That is why I say the rich HATE AMERICAN MIDDLE class becuz the BOTTOM lINE is more important than American progress.
ravenocho8 8 months ago
Than see Americans make a living. That is why IO say the rich HATE AMERICAN MIDDLE class becuz the BOTTOM lINE is more important than American progress.
ravenocho8 8 months ago
Haha bitch is now bankrupt, she will be sucking dick on the street in no time
rmathew2 1 year ago
I feel badly for this woman, and I am praying for her. No matter how wealthy she has been or is, she is a human being, and deserves our compassion.
love2inifinity 1 year ago
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jaystyles007 1 year ago
@jaystyles007 Spread the wealth is for losers socialists who want other people's money because they are too lazy or dumb to get their own
firespinguy 11 months ago
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jaystyles007 11 months ago
@jaystyles007 Nothing is wrong with helping, the problem I see with those who say "spread the wealth" are usually socialists or those who are envious about what others have. We already have programs in the US to help people, it is up to them to use it. Just look at the nasty comments made about her, on youtube and other sites. Those people don't need help, they are just jealous and socialist..
firespinguy 11 months ago
@firespinguy (Continued from below) Her husband choice to marry her, so he had to deal with the consquences to divorce her. Also chances are she gave more to charity by choice and by taxes, then any of the people who condemn her. Most people who mocked her don't even give anything themselves. Even when the rich waste their money, they are still putting the money back into the economy which in eventually provide jobs in society. The money don't just disappear.
firespinguy 11 months ago
@jaystyles007 Also "spread the wealth" slogan does not promote helping, but instead a handout
firespinguy 11 months ago
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jaystyles007 11 months ago
@jaystyles007 Yeah, but the money is still hers from the legal system. I don't like alimoney paid divorcees so much, but it is none of my business and that is a personal matter between her, ex-husband and the court. It doesn't matter whether anyone need 1 billion dollars, it is theirs/hers money and no one business. It is good to give to worthy causes, but it should be volunteered, because no one is responsible to save the world, nor do everyone value the same thing.
firespinguy 11 months ago
@jaystyles007 It is great you want to help people out, but this is off topic and we know that most people who are mocking her are just jealous of her past wealth. Warren Buffet chooses to give away most of his wealth, and these same "spread the wealth" people, still bash Bufffet for being wealthy in first place. That is ridiculous and prove they're losers and socialists. They act as if they are entitled something from someone they don't know.
firespinguy 11 months ago
@firespinguy Barack Hussein Obama is redistributing the wealth from fraud against me. I am Honey Robin Siegal. Crooked attorneys including Barry & Michelle & DHS Janet are engaged in manipulating MY money. They are engaged in Rico from my co. of Zenadev and bank and court records of me dead.
Just one honest judge and a writ of habeous corpus declaring me alive and I enforce a special power of attorney given to me by ? and the US is back in business.
Truth is stranger than fiction.
I AM ALIVE
HoneySiegalSurvivor 11 months ago
@firespinguy I'm glad you feel that way about CORPORATE WELFARE. I am tired of the rich taking the WORKING CLASS' money, when THEY are too dumb and lazy to work for it. This bitch sucked and fucked her way to her riches. And then like a true WHORE she BLEW it away.
ravenocho8 8 months ago
@ravenocho8 I am against all forms of welfare entitlement. The banks who failed do not deserve to be bailed by the government just like someone do not deserve to be paid by the government from taking someone's else money just because they have more. At least the banks pay back the money with interest though, but the later do not. The rich as a whole do not take the working class money in USA, and it was proven they pay most of the taxes in the USA anyway.
firespinguy 8 months ago
@firespinguy They should pay more than the rest of us, but they don't. The RICH are taxed as a whole @ 18%. Under Clinton-36% we had a surplus. Under Truman MORE THAN 50%- we had a booming MIDDLE CLASS. The Rich and republicans Hate the middle class, and they HATE this country. If they didn't they would pay more and STOP shipping our jobs to ENEMIES of the STATE(CHINA)! You call it SOCIALISM(which is by definition WRONG). The middle class makes America an ECENOMIC power not the rich.
ravenocho8 8 months ago
@ravenocho8 Since majority of republicans are middle class, that is a lie that they "Hate the middle class" or the country. The founding fathers were against and did not create wealth distribution or welfare, but the socialists and left did. Most of the companies that sent jobs overseas were UNION JOBS. The unions make it very expensive to run in the US. The top 25% pay 82.9 % of the taxes. The rich also create the highest paying jobs, this is a fact.
firespinguy 8 months ago
@ravenocho8 To continue on The clintion surplus was a myth. It was found out the government was really taking money from social security fund to make the deficet look smaller!
firespinguy 8 months ago
@firespinguy The majority of REPUBLICAN VOTERS are middle class, not the people they vote for. The people they vote for are and always have been PRO BUSINESS until the Late 70's/early 80's when they duped the WHITE CHRISTIANS with MORAL issues. When have tax-cuts for the rich PRODUCED jobs? NEVER. Unions are needed to keep things fair for the avg. AMERICAN worker. When you say UNION jopbs are expensive, what are you comparing that too? SLAVE LABOR in CHINA! You would rather feed communist?
ravenocho8 8 months ago
@ravenocho8 The majority of Democrat politicians also arenot middle class, and I don;t care about a politian's personal wealth. I am pro business. Where is your proof tax cuts never created jobs? Because statistics would say you are wrong. Unions today do whatever they can to suck money out of business more so than help Americans. That is why business now leave. Keep promoting unions, and you will lose jobs, and the people who have the ability and talent to create them to China.
firespinguy 8 months ago
@firespinguy Just like Bush keeping the war budget separate from the Nat'l budget, too make his numbers look better? Clinton had a surplus, Bush stole all the money out of the bank and gave it to his friends. Don't use bullshit in a debate, you seem wiser than that.
ravenocho8 8 months ago
@ravenocho8 If I am business owner, have to pay higher taxes, and worry about a Union raising my expenses and paying more for work than it is worth, why would I higher more employees? That only hurts my business. If I can get more work done for cheaper overseas without the trouble of unions than any intelligent business owner would move if they don't want their business to suffer. Raising taxes, increasing unions, while expecting business owners to willing take all the risk is insane.
firespinguy 8 months ago
@firespinguy Then I say any corporation dealing with enemies of the state for their own greedy profits, is a traitor. And should be quadruple taxed on their products made in other countries. Can you imagine if a business sent jobs to the SOVIET UNION during the COLD WAR? That company would have been BOYCOTTED and rightly so. What's the difference with sending jobs to CHINA? CEO's are making record profits, HOW MANY MILLIONS/BILLIONS do you NEED? Before you start thinking about your countrys fate
ravenocho8 8 months ago
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firespinguy 8 months ago
@ravenocho8 Again Clinton never had a surplus, that was a lie by liberal media. This was proven to be a lie as Clinton ran deficits throughout all 8 terms. He borrowed money from social security and other funds. Search in google "Clinton Surplus Myth" .That is why the liberal media no longer claim Clintion had a surplus, because they were caught in their lies. Only unaware or hardcore democrats/ liberals still believe that. If you keep claiming that myth it is a waste of time speaking to you.
firespinguy 8 months ago