@MAPFWH. No those things are minor infractions of the highway code. Deliberately causing a crash as this driver did, on the other hand, in a sane society should be classed as assault with a lethal weapon.
@Maelstroma666. He didn't anticipate it, and, as it was his life and limb at stake, presumably couldn't have. Why should we need to have the reflexes of a cat to cycle on the road? You are simply acting as an apologist for sociopathic driving.
I reckon mcabby has it right here. You rode down a footpath, dodged the "anti-bicycle" barriers and tore up the grass (and it's constant prolonged usage that made it that way,....... was it you?) and also "shot an amber".... seems you can do this, but if someone dare do the wrong thing to you........ ? Well, you weren't seriously hurt, I guess shocked and stunned, and at least it was a Laguna. No real loss to the motoring world.
At 3:57 the driver hasn't looked and pulls out. The stopping distance for a car at 20mph is 10m, about the same distance left at 3:57. Factor in wet roads and less powerful brakes, then the selfishness of the driver has only one outcome.
3.57 driver edges out. You did have time to slow down. Never trust other road users. At that point you might have been thinking he wouldn't edge out and that's when it happened.
Nice to hear this had a sensible outcome. I find that the most annoying aspect of bad driving is when the driver doesn't realise or admit they did anything wrong. So hats off to the guy for his response. I always cycle on the basis that cars and other road users will do the most dangerous things possible at all times. If I cant get eye contact with a driver waiting at a junction I presume they havent seen me. And even when I do get eye contact I expect them to pull out anyway.
@nodoubletalk Absolutely! Nice to hear a voice of reason. I cycle to work every day and have only had one incident in the last 5 years, and that wasn't serious, was my fault for not taking control of the lane properly. There is a big difference between cycling aggressively and cycling confidently. Looking at all these head-cam vids on you-tube makes me wonder how people can have so many accidents, anyone would think they were doing it on purpose.
It was his fault for pulling out but you could easily have avoided it. You can see he doesn't slow down fully from about 15 metres away and by 10m it is obvious he is coming out. You should have anticipated this and been covering the front brake, a child could stop a bicycle from that speed in that distance.
Who is to blame makes no difference when you are trapped under a car, work on your observation and planning to prevent this sort of thing.
@Maelstroma666 At 3:57 the driver hasn't looked and pulls out. The stopping distance for a car at 20mph is 10m, about the same distance left at 3:57. Factor in wet roads and less powerful brakes, then the selfishness of the driver has only one outcome.
I love this excuse that some how even if the cyclist had the right of way and only a few meters to break that they are in fault because they should have "anticipated" that some thing was going to happen.
I'd love to use this excuse for someone driving a car who gets into the same sort of collision and tell the driver who had the right of way that it was his/her fault as he should have been able to see into the future and stopped it from happening. I'm sure they'd take it well.
@SimulatedlPuppet Did you even read my post? QUOTE "It was his fault for pulling out but you could easily have avoided it.". Who is at fault is irrelevant when you are on the floor with your femur poking out and your head under a tyre. Cyclists, like motorcyclists are vulnerable road users and need to keep themselves safe, it is not seeing into the future it is looking at the information you have available and deciding an appropriate course of action to minimise the risk.
"You could have anticipated that" - Anticipated, Regard as probable; expect or predict. = predicting the future.
Cyclists and motorbike users shouldn't have to more caution when on the road as car users. It's the car drivers who need to look better, I've noticed it my self and know the attitude of many drivers is bikes should not be on the road and just don't care about the safety of bike users on the road.
@SimulatedlPuppet I am a motorcyclist, I am fully aware of the crap that car drivers inflict on other road users. My point wasn't that the actions of the car driver were in any way justified, he pulled out on someone, he is at fault. My point was that the cyclist could have seen it a mile off and not slowly ridden into a not stopping, still moving car. I'm not sure why you have so much of an issue with this, if I was firing a gun and you walked in front of me, my fault but you'd still be dead.
@SimulatedlPuppet part 2: Anticipating the actions of other road users is the only thing stopping you from being killed. If the guy had anticipated the accident, he would not have been involved in it, he would have been pissed off at the car for violating his right of way but he wouldn't have hit it. The car driver would still be in the wrong but the cyclist would be uninjured.
Suggesting it is looking into the future is immature and implies it is impossible, that accident was VERY obvious.
@SimulatedlPuppet ok lets get this right every road user has to be ready for the unexpected so its not about see the future its about trying to work out what other ppl might do like just pull out because they just looked fast to the right but didnt relly look as thye was looking for other cars no bikes dont make it right but it happens so as a bike rider you need to expect the worse for all other road users... i ride bikes and drive cars and also trucks defensive driving(riding )
alos 1 week in a post on youtube is not old i dont have all day sitting a computer to browse i do once in a wile and come across a few videos i like and dislike but i do like to comment i dont do it to take the p@ss out of some one i do it as its ment to be taken just as a opinion sorry if i upset you .....
@mr420B Actually I believe that I have the same camera, a chinese MD80 clone if I am not mistaken? As for the distance and speed, fairly easy to estimate based on the road and the time that passed. I can see a pretty large gap between where the accident was obvious (about 3:58, on the zebra crossing) and to where it occurred - using the scale on google maps (location = ttp://g.co/maps/2asd2), the beginning of the zebra crossing was more than 10 metres from the crash, bicycles don't go fast.
How people respond is almost as important as how they behaved in the first place. He sounds like he actually might have learned something here - shame not everyone is as repentant!
Bloody hell that was close fella! I know how that feels! But at a bit of a quicker speed as I ride a motorcycle. Glad you didnt get hurt though. Could of been a lot worse.
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why are you all over the road? alot of the time you are in the middle of the road? his fault but you should of avoided that, saw it happen way before it did
@irons25 no offence - but classic non-cyclist comment. The people you see riding in the gutter are also the ones who have the most accidents!
Good of the OP to let him off with a new windscreen IMO. To be honest, I've seen someone pull out like this in front of an ambulance with blues and twos going, some people are a bit of a liability!
the driver actually stopped!!! your lucky whenever ive had an accident they always drive off. its good to know that there are some nice drivers out there instead of the ones that just hurl abuse at us. :-)
Ouch, Glad you seem to be OK. Fortunately when I've had similar SMIDSY pull outs its been in the dry and I have been able to stop; a greasy surface like yours would be a nightmare!
Ouch! Did you have any injuries and any damage to the bike. You were certainly lucky there. I noticed that you also get the drivers admission of guilt on the audio! :-)
@magnatom Actually, no, not a single scratch on the bike, on just a couple of bruised fingers for me.
The guy was actually a nice fella. He was more shaken up by the whole thing than I was. kept offering to take me to hospital/home/work etc, had his mobile on the ready to ring the old bill (told him not to bother). Insisted on swapping details so I can contact him if any damage turns up later etc.
Not persuing it because he was a genuinely nice bloke, and he's learned an expensive lesson.
He seemed genuinely shaken by it, and sure, you would rather it never happen ( Or do you? You have a vid to put up on Y.T! - LOL ) but making more of it, the guy will think you are a turd, but letting it lie, he will surely learn a very valuable lesson that may one day save a life... One that might actually be a child for example.
This has happened to me about 3 times now, the late time the driver blamed me even tho he pulled out on me..?.. I have also done trials riding for about 2 years so I try and jump onto there bonnet but this normaly makes things worse and has only worked once..
bloody hell!!! i've gone over a bonnet like that. and came off a lot worse. I literally flew over and landed shoulder first on the ground. Nothing you can do about it. The driver just didn't check properly.
@gaz545 I was really lucky that I was on the MTB with the big disc brakes for this one. Managed to slow RIGHT down, just not enough to stop sadly. It helps that I also managed to get sideways right before I hit.
A layman looking at this video may say that you had plenty of time to stop, but it's amazing when you are there for real how LITTLE time you actually have to stop.
I've almost had a similar accident last year and was ONLY averted due to my bike handling skills. Which to be honest are not the greatest but when the adrenaline kicks in you manage to do things that you normally couldn't do!!
When you watch it again, you can see that the car starts pulling out as I'm at the Zebra Crossing, from there to his bonnet was about 15ft max. At the time I was only doing around 15-20mph as there is a set of traffic lights just round the corner, a bit further up the hill I'm doing double that.
Also, didn't help that the road is greasy this morning.
sounds like you were lucky there. Also sounds like the bloke was a rare decent one after the fact. Safe riding.
strippzy 4 weeks ago
so i was sat watching that and realised, hey that was signpost lol . Hope you were ok
dukestt 2 months ago
@MAPFWH. No those things are minor infractions of the highway code. Deliberately causing a crash as this driver did, on the other hand, in a sane society should be classed as assault with a lethal weapon.
@Maelstroma666. He didn't anticipate it, and, as it was his life and limb at stake, presumably couldn't have. Why should we need to have the reflexes of a cat to cycle on the road? You are simply acting as an apologist for sociopathic driving.
mekanopsis1 2 months ago
I reckon mcabby has it right here. You rode down a footpath, dodged the "anti-bicycle" barriers and tore up the grass (and it's constant prolonged usage that made it that way,....... was it you?) and also "shot an amber".... seems you can do this, but if someone dare do the wrong thing to you........ ? Well, you weren't seriously hurt, I guess shocked and stunned, and at least it was a Laguna. No real loss to the motoring world.
MAPFWH 3 months ago
Riding down a walkway-Illegal. Going through amber traffic light - Illegal.
Wandering all over the the road - not illegal, but highly dangerous. Why don't you grow up and get a car!!!!!
mcabby1 3 months ago
Nice Pike's dude :) Hope you and/or your steed wern't too injured!
Finchowned 3 months ago
At least he was a decent chap.
MrCrusader363 3 months ago
At 3:57 the driver hasn't looked and pulls out. The stopping distance for a car at 20mph is 10m, about the same distance left at 3:57. Factor in wet roads and less powerful brakes, then the selfishness of the driver has only one outcome.
catbells69 4 months ago
Nice Fat Albert ;)
orchy86 4 months ago
Looks like you did the guy a favor. If it wasn't for you he probably would have hit the blue car coming down the other side of the road.
Devilock79 5 months ago
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GLAD TO SEE THE DRIVER DOING HIS BIT TO CLEAN UP THE ROADS FROM THESE FUCKING PRICK CYCLISTS...
C0mm3n 5 months ago
@C0mm3n You are retarded bro. Make us the favour and delete yourself from life.
masterknaster 5 months ago
3.57 driver edges out. You did have time to slow down. Never trust other road users. At that point you might have been thinking he wouldn't edge out and that's when it happened.
racer17551 5 months ago
what a lovely nice guy, one of lifes good men.
Pentdad 6 months ago
@Pentdad nah, he only cares if he is ok in case he wants money.
Cbr0Rider 5 months ago
am going to park my bike in the arse of the next person that says smidsy to me!!
the2tuff 6 months ago
Nice to hear this had a sensible outcome. I find that the most annoying aspect of bad driving is when the driver doesn't realise or admit they did anything wrong. So hats off to the guy for his response. I always cycle on the basis that cars and other road users will do the most dangerous things possible at all times. If I cant get eye contact with a driver waiting at a junction I presume they havent seen me. And even when I do get eye contact I expect them to pull out anyway.
nodoubletalk 6 months ago
@nodoubletalk Absolutely! Nice to hear a voice of reason. I cycle to work every day and have only had one incident in the last 5 years, and that wasn't serious, was my fault for not taking control of the lane properly. There is a big difference between cycling aggressively and cycling confidently. Looking at all these head-cam vids on you-tube makes me wonder how people can have so many accidents, anyone would think they were doing it on purpose.
Maybe I am just lucky.
TheEskimosPantry 4 months ago
I pissed at FUCKING PRICK!
InsaneReLiiCs 6 months ago
You could have anticipated that a mile off.
It was his fault for pulling out but you could easily have avoided it. You can see he doesn't slow down fully from about 15 metres away and by 10m it is obvious he is coming out. You should have anticipated this and been covering the front brake, a child could stop a bicycle from that speed in that distance.
Who is to blame makes no difference when you are trapped under a car, work on your observation and planning to prevent this sort of thing.
Maelstroma666 8 months ago 16
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@Maelstroma666 At 3:57 the driver hasn't looked and pulls out. The stopping distance for a car at 20mph is 10m, about the same distance left at 3:57. Factor in wet roads and less powerful brakes, then the selfishness of the driver has only one outcome.
catbells69 4 months ago
@Maelstroma666
I love this excuse that some how even if the cyclist had the right of way and only a few meters to break that they are in fault because they should have "anticipated" that some thing was going to happen.
I'd love to use this excuse for someone driving a car who gets into the same sort of collision and tell the driver who had the right of way that it was his/her fault as he should have been able to see into the future and stopped it from happening. I'm sure they'd take it well.
SimulatedlPuppet 4 months ago
@SimulatedlPuppet Did you even read my post? QUOTE "It was his fault for pulling out but you could easily have avoided it.". Who is at fault is irrelevant when you are on the floor with your femur poking out and your head under a tyre. Cyclists, like motorcyclists are vulnerable road users and need to keep themselves safe, it is not seeing into the future it is looking at the information you have available and deciding an appropriate course of action to minimise the risk.
Maelstroma666 4 months ago
@Maelstroma666
"You could have anticipated that" - Anticipated, Regard as probable; expect or predict. = predicting the future.
Cyclists and motorbike users shouldn't have to more caution when on the road as car users. It's the car drivers who need to look better, I've noticed it my self and know the attitude of many drivers is bikes should not be on the road and just don't care about the safety of bike users on the road.
SimulatedlPuppet 4 months ago
@SimulatedlPuppet I am a motorcyclist, I am fully aware of the crap that car drivers inflict on other road users. My point wasn't that the actions of the car driver were in any way justified, he pulled out on someone, he is at fault. My point was that the cyclist could have seen it a mile off and not slowly ridden into a not stopping, still moving car. I'm not sure why you have so much of an issue with this, if I was firing a gun and you walked in front of me, my fault but you'd still be dead.
Maelstroma666 4 months ago
@SimulatedlPuppet part 2: Anticipating the actions of other road users is the only thing stopping you from being killed. If the guy had anticipated the accident, he would not have been involved in it, he would have been pissed off at the car for violating his right of way but he wouldn't have hit it. The car driver would still be in the wrong but the cyclist would be uninjured.
Suggesting it is looking into the future is immature and implies it is impossible, that accident was VERY obvious.
Maelstroma666 4 months ago 2
@SimulatedlPuppet ok lets get this right every road user has to be ready for the unexpected so its not about see the future its about trying to work out what other ppl might do like just pull out because they just looked fast to the right but didnt relly look as thye was looking for other cars no bikes dont make it right but it happens so as a bike rider you need to expect the worse for all other road users... i ride bikes and drive cars and also trucks defensive driving(riding )
dennislions1 3 months ago
@dennislions1 Old conversation is old. Get over it, your opinions don't matter.
SimulatedlPuppet 3 months ago
@SimulatedlPuppet if they dont matter then you would not have sent me a message so i guess they do,so you get over it you wrong
also learn to ride a bike ;P
dennislions1 3 months ago
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@SimulatedlPuppet
if they dont matter then you would not have sent me a message so i guess they do,so you get over it you wrong
also learn to ride a bike ;P
dennislions1 3 months ago
@SimulatedlPuppet
alos 1 week in a post on youtube is not old i dont have all day sitting a computer to browse i do once in a wile and come across a few videos i like and dislike but i do like to comment i dont do it to take the p@ss out of some one i do it as its ment to be taken just as a opinion sorry if i upset you .....
dennislions1 3 months ago
@Maelstroma666 you cant tell how many metres it is because different cameras have different angles- you dont know how fast hes goin etc etc
mr420B 4 months ago
@mr420B Actually I believe that I have the same camera, a chinese MD80 clone if I am not mistaken? As for the distance and speed, fairly easy to estimate based on the road and the time that passed. I can see a pretty large gap between where the accident was obvious (about 3:58, on the zebra crossing) and to where it occurred - using the scale on google maps (location = ttp://g.co/maps/2asd2), the beginning of the zebra crossing was more than 10 metres from the crash, bicycles don't go fast.
Maelstroma666 4 months ago
@Maelstroma666 can't post a link here - the url has a h before it, not just ttp.
Maelstroma666 4 months ago
@Maelstroma666 Have to agree with you there Maelstroma
paulcarb 2 months ago
How people respond is almost as important as how they behaved in the first place. He sounds like he actually might have learned something here - shame not everyone is as repentant!
bigbold2 9 months ago
Hate when cars do that. Move a bit, then stop, then just gun it right at you.
myforwik 10 months ago
Bloody hell that was close fella! I know how that feels! But at a bit of a quicker speed as I ride a motorcycle. Glad you didnt get hurt though. Could of been a lot worse.
rens2007 10 months ago
WEEEEEEEEE!
DonSimonUK 10 months ago
I guess everyone was "alright" after that as you both said it about 10 times :)
monkeysnutscom 10 months ago
Nice guy, bad driver.
vousden 10 months ago
fucking hell that was really scary
At least there weren't any serious injuries
dronespace 11 months ago
I had something similar happen at a roundabout last summer.
I could see he was entering the roundabout so I shouted a warning, and he stopped only a metre or so beyond the line.
Even so, I came off my bike after swerving to avoid a collision.
It leaves your heart pumping and you're adrenalin through the roof!
It's hard to keep calm after things like this!
At least the bloke was honest... He knew he was in the wrong and didn't mind admiting it!
Cliffjumper24 1 year ago
WHAT A PRICK!!!, FUKING IDIOT :)
maloney4lfc 1 year ago
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why are you all over the road? alot of the time you are in the middle of the road? his fault but you should of avoided that, saw it happen way before it did
irons25 1 year ago
@irons25 The road postition is to stop idiots trying to overtake round blind corners and unsafe places.
You saw it happen before it did as you knew that it was going to happen.
setra23 1 year ago 3
@irons25 no offence - but classic non-cyclist comment. The people you see riding in the gutter are also the ones who have the most accidents!
Good of the OP to let him off with a new windscreen IMO. To be honest, I've seen someone pull out like this in front of an ambulance with blues and twos going, some people are a bit of a liability!
EdinburghFixed 1 year ago 3
the driver actually stopped!!! your lucky whenever ive had an accident they always drive off. its good to know that there are some nice drivers out there instead of the ones that just hurl abuse at us. :-)
mattyb1500 1 year ago
Ouch, Glad you seem to be OK. Fortunately when I've had similar SMIDSY pull outs its been in the dry and I have been able to stop; a greasy surface like yours would be a nightmare!
HLaB75 1 year ago
Ouch! Did you have any injuries and any damage to the bike. You were certainly lucky there. I noticed that you also get the drivers admission of guilt on the audio! :-)
magnatom 1 year ago 5
@magnatom Actually, no, not a single scratch on the bike, on just a couple of bruised fingers for me.
The guy was actually a nice fella. He was more shaken up by the whole thing than I was. kept offering to take me to hospital/home/work etc, had his mobile on the ready to ring the old bill (told him not to bother). Insisted on swapping details so I can contact him if any damage turns up later etc.
Not persuing it because he was a genuinely nice bloke, and he's learned an expensive lesson.
TheCWNT 1 year ago 12
@TheCWNT
Yes, I think thats a very sensible thing to do.
He seemed genuinely shaken by it, and sure, you would rather it never happen ( Or do you? You have a vid to put up on Y.T! - LOL ) but making more of it, the guy will think you are a turd, but letting it lie, he will surely learn a very valuable lesson that may one day save a life... One that might actually be a child for example.
FatRakoon 6 months ago
skip to 3.50 for the crash
Maxemus90 1 year ago 4
@Maxemus90
Sorry, meant to add the tag to the description:
FORWARD TO 3:50 FOR CRASH
TheCWNT 1 year ago 10
what does smidsy mean??
TG1986IRL 1 year ago
@TG1986IRL
SMIDSY = Sorry Mate I Didn't See You
As in the phrase said by most drivers who pull out on you without looking properly.
TheCWNT 1 year ago 3
This has happened to me about 3 times now, the late time the driver blamed me even tho he pulled out on me..?.. I have also done trials riding for about 2 years so I try and jump onto there bonnet but this normaly makes things worse and has only worked once..
nameisshuff 1 year ago
bloody hell!!! i've gone over a bonnet like that. and came off a lot worse. I literally flew over and landed shoulder first on the ground. Nothing you can do about it. The driver just didn't check properly.
gaz545 1 year ago
@gaz545 I was really lucky that I was on the MTB with the big disc brakes for this one. Managed to slow RIGHT down, just not enough to stop sadly. It helps that I also managed to get sideways right before I hit.
TheCWNT 1 year ago
F*cking hell!!
You were lucky to walk away from that!!
A layman looking at this video may say that you had plenty of time to stop, but it's amazing when you are there for real how LITTLE time you actually have to stop.
I've almost had a similar accident last year and was ONLY averted due to my bike handling skills. Which to be honest are not the greatest but when the adrenaline kicks in you manage to do things that you normally couldn't do!!
NWLondonerCyclist 1 year ago
@NWLondonerCyclist
When you watch it again, you can see that the car starts pulling out as I'm at the Zebra Crossing, from there to his bonnet was about 15ft max. At the time I was only doing around 15-20mph as there is a set of traffic lights just round the corner, a bit further up the hill I'm doing double that.
Also, didn't help that the road is greasy this morning.
TheCWNT 1 year ago
Downhill on a damp road ! you were lucky. Glad you were OK. The accident looks like it could have been worse than Andyb's
Was that you tripped the speed sensor at 29mph ? It doesn't look that fast.
mrcellophane99 1 year ago
@mrcellophane99
It's me that trips it, but it's 23mph
TheCWNT 1 year ago