Hello, I have no Cherokee connection here in Boston, MA,USA... I am one of the blonde/blue eyed Cherokee... "One Drop of Blood" The first time that I actually Cried out to my Ancestors... Instantly they came in a clan... more than surreal.
O-si-yo; Tim da-wa?-to:-a. I'm a yo-ne-gi and learning the cherokee language.
Hybrid69able If no one tells them how will they know. when you pass over that knowledge is lost forever. For too long the red man has allowed his knowledge to be lost. You have allowed the white man to succeed in destroying you language and your culture. You must allow Grandfather to speak his truth! So the youth will know it and pass it on. Do-hi-a
I am not familiar with what you are speaking of. I am trying to learn. If you give up, those of us searching will never learn. I have a longing that is unexplainable. I know it is from deep within, and when the time is right I will be taught by someone willing to share. I know if I keep seeking and asking I will be shown. I pray to be worthy of the knowledge and I know Great Spirit will provide. I know my heart.
I came across your soliloquy here & read your frustrations. I'm also decended from Cherokee, great great grandmother was full blooded & we have her portrait. I'm only a fraction, too. You have researched & know more about your likely ancestry than do I about mine, but try to keep to heart that the connections we have to our family, past & present, is individual.Have your journey be within yourself for now & w/ the spirit of your people and nature.When the time is right, teachers will come.
I'm thrilled that both western and eastern dialects are making the language accessible to others. While I am watered down native american...my personal lineage permanently broken....the fact that my family is of native american heritage is beyond reproach. From mild research (cant go deep because everyone is gone....) my family does believe that it is of Tsalagi descent. I am learning the eastern dialect and will be teaching it to my children shortly.
Another sad thing is most people at a pow wow don't even know what a Tsalagi is. They don't know where the name Cherokee came from. They don't know what the seven pointed star is. They don't know what the seven stars with the seven points is. They don't know what the black star is for. They don't know what the branches are.
@hybrid69able Then teach. Sikawi did. When he wrote the syllabary 10% of those on the rolls diidn't speak the language. Today 10% of those on the rolls are all who speak the language. Put your piss-off to the pen as in, write. Not a pen to cage up your spirit. There are many non-Tsalagi and even non-Indian people who want to bring back the language and the culture. They see something of value slipping away and are saying "no more!" There are 25 states with native names. Texas for instance.
@JonahtheFigPucker Teach that. Texas is a Spanish mistranslation of a Caddo word. The tribe who gave them that word died out soon afterward. Natchez was a tribe. Who speaks Caddo or Natchez now? Are we to become merely an interesting place name? And there is an organized attempt to take away our very right to exist as a nation. The man who took away the tribal rights of Texas tribes, Bush, also won a lawsuit against the family of Geronimo. His rich white boy club get to keep his body.
@JonahtheFigPucker The court ruled that we don't even get to keep our burial rights. Our languages, too. They say that we must speak English especially in the home, because to raise our children bilingual would "handicap" them in the school systems. We'll have the right to call ourselves Indian as long as we express our culture in a way acceptable to the English conquerors. Screw that. Get angry but don't pen it up.
I thought we are to be brothers and sisters regardless of what tribal nation our ancestors are from. Everything I know is pretty much self taught from books because no one will or isn't able to help. What hurts is that I don't even fit in with what is supposed to be family members. At least not where I live.
I am proud to have the Cherokee Seal permanently marked on my body. The most painful of all was when some treated me rudely and had a look of disgust when they found out I had Cherokee blood in me. I can't describe the pain I felt when a supposed to be brother rejected me.
@hybrid69able Don't give up..go to the Pow Wows and show them, you are what you are in your heart. . My family is of Tsu ni yv wi Wa ya. Be Proud. The brother that rejected you, well..considered the source, not all are like that. I'm just lucky my Granny taught me some of the language (Western Band)..and I learned more on my own while working in the hospital up in Tahlequah and studying it. Don't let anyone hold you down. Nv wa to hi ya dv Di na da nv tli
How can it be saved when no one will speak it. The sad thing when I go to a pow wow no one speaks anything but english. The reason is no one knows how. I have been searching to learn. Many don't even know the Cherokee seal with the trail of tears black star from the flag, that is tattooed on my arm. So very heart breaking
@hybrid69able I sing to my new Grandson in Cherokee, When I call him "U s di" he looks right n2 my eyes. He's 1 month old today! He knows U li si when he hears me sing. And I'm the only 1 that can put him to sleep while singing to him, and it's always in Cherokee. I want him to know his heritage & he will, even if he's a little Scotch/Irish in him.
@IBNTAYLOR Yeah. Oh wait a minute. I have to correct myself. Hau Kola is Lakota. Not Cherokee. Not long ago, I drove by the Choctaw Nation in Broken Bow, Ok just by chance. And I know how to say tsalagisgo howiniha.
Hello, I have no Cherokee connection here in Boston, MA,USA... I am one of the blonde/blue eyed Cherokee... "One Drop of Blood" The first time that I actually Cried out to my Ancestors... Instantly they came in a clan... more than surreal.
girjaye 1 month ago in playlist indigenous america
O-si-yo; Tim da-wa?-to:-a. I'm a yo-ne-gi and learning the cherokee language.
Hybrid69able If no one tells them how will they know. when you pass over that knowledge is lost forever. For too long the red man has allowed his knowledge to be lost. You have allowed the white man to succeed in destroying you language and your culture. You must allow Grandfather to speak his truth! So the youth will know it and pass it on. Do-hi-a
numbersmandan 7 months ago
I am not familiar with what you are speaking of. I am trying to learn. If you give up, those of us searching will never learn. I have a longing that is unexplainable. I know it is from deep within, and when the time is right I will be taught by someone willing to share. I know if I keep seeking and asking I will be shown. I pray to be worthy of the knowledge and I know Great Spirit will provide. I know my heart.
vickielynn8 8 months ago
I came across your soliloquy here & read your frustrations. I'm also decended from Cherokee, great great grandmother was full blooded & we have her portrait. I'm only a fraction, too. You have researched & know more about your likely ancestry than do I about mine, but try to keep to heart that the connections we have to our family, past & present, is individual.Have your journey be within yourself for now & w/ the spirit of your people and nature.When the time is right, teachers will come.
TheZenaxa 8 months ago
I'm thrilled that both western and eastern dialects are making the language accessible to others. While I am watered down native american...my personal lineage permanently broken....the fact that my family is of native american heritage is beyond reproach. From mild research (cant go deep because everyone is gone....) my family does believe that it is of Tsalagi descent. I am learning the eastern dialect and will be teaching it to my children shortly.
sirrrowan 1 year ago
Another sad thing is most people at a pow wow don't even know what a Tsalagi is. They don't know where the name Cherokee came from. They don't know what the seven pointed star is. They don't know what the seven stars with the seven points is. They don't know what the black star is for. They don't know what the branches are.
Yep, I have a whole lot of penned up pissed off.
hybrid69able 1 year ago
@hybrid69able Then teach. Sikawi did. When he wrote the syllabary 10% of those on the rolls diidn't speak the language. Today 10% of those on the rolls are all who speak the language. Put your piss-off to the pen as in, write. Not a pen to cage up your spirit. There are many non-Tsalagi and even non-Indian people who want to bring back the language and the culture. They see something of value slipping away and are saying "no more!" There are 25 states with native names. Texas for instance.
JonahtheFigPucker 4 months ago
@JonahtheFigPucker Teach that. Texas is a Spanish mistranslation of a Caddo word. The tribe who gave them that word died out soon afterward. Natchez was a tribe. Who speaks Caddo or Natchez now? Are we to become merely an interesting place name? And there is an organized attempt to take away our very right to exist as a nation. The man who took away the tribal rights of Texas tribes, Bush, also won a lawsuit against the family of Geronimo. His rich white boy club get to keep his body.
JonahtheFigPucker 4 months ago
@JonahtheFigPucker The court ruled that we don't even get to keep our burial rights. Our languages, too. They say that we must speak English especially in the home, because to raise our children bilingual would "handicap" them in the school systems. We'll have the right to call ourselves Indian as long as we express our culture in a way acceptable to the English conquerors. Screw that. Get angry but don't pen it up.
JonahtheFigPucker 4 months ago
I know in my heart what I am. I am Tsalagi. Yeah I really do know. I may be mixed (a hybrid ) but I am Tsalagi
hybrid69able 1 year ago
I thought we are to be brothers and sisters regardless of what tribal nation our ancestors are from. Everything I know is pretty much self taught from books because no one will or isn't able to help. What hurts is that I don't even fit in with what is supposed to be family members. At least not where I live.
hybrid69able 1 year ago
@hybrid69able hahaha I know right im leaning towards the feeling hurt.
MDefsquad9 1 year ago
I truly don't understand, why is this? Why?
hybrid69able 1 year ago
I am proud to have the Cherokee Seal permanently marked on my body. The most painful of all was when some treated me rudely and had a look of disgust when they found out I had Cherokee blood in me. I can't describe the pain I felt when a supposed to be brother rejected me.
hybrid69able 1 year ago
I pretty much gave up. I don't even go to pow wow any more.
hybrid69able 1 year ago
@hybrid69able Don't give up..go to the Pow Wows and show them, you are what you are in your heart. . My family is of Tsu ni yv wi Wa ya. Be Proud. The brother that rejected you, well..considered the source, not all are like that. I'm just lucky my Granny taught me some of the language (Western Band)..and I learned more on my own while working in the hospital up in Tahlequah and studying it. Don't let anyone hold you down. Nv wa to hi ya dv Di na da nv tli
AnnieOaklie63 3 months ago
How can it be saved when no one will speak it. The sad thing when I go to a pow wow no one speaks anything but english. The reason is no one knows how. I have been searching to learn. Many don't even know the Cherokee seal with the trail of tears black star from the flag, that is tattooed on my arm. So very heart breaking
hybrid69able 1 year ago
@hybrid69able I sing to my new Grandson in Cherokee, When I call him "U s di" he looks right n2 my eyes. He's 1 month old today! He knows U li si when he hears me sing. And I'm the only 1 that can put him to sleep while singing to him, and it's always in Cherokee. I want him to know his heritage & he will, even if he's a little Scotch/Irish in him.
AnnieOaklie63 3 months ago
Wesa Edoha
Hau Kola
I'm a white man, and I'm learning Cherokee along w/ some other Indian languages. I also know French, German, Japanese.
CupisHomines 1 year ago
@CupisHomines Oh really?
IBNTAYLOR 1 year ago
@IBNTAYLOR Yeah. Oh wait a minute. I have to correct myself. Hau Kola is Lakota. Not Cherokee. Not long ago, I drove by the Choctaw Nation in Broken Bow, Ok just by chance. And I know how to say tsalagisgo howiniha.
CupisHomines 1 year ago
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