So are all your arguements as accurate as you having read the constitution 50,000,000 times?
But I digress. If a woman were to decide that she no longer wanted her baby after a month and elected to have it removed, unharmed, isn't it the fault of the child, this supposedly independant human being, for not surviving? Or prehaps there is some merit to the fact that the embryo is still a part of the woman.
@putzthewondersloth Umm, no, not at all. It's simple to disprove this idea. Take a child who is born full term and just leave it be for a while. It can't take care of itself, this independent human being, because it is entirely dependent: therefore it is not human? Dependency is not a factor in whether or not you're human; legally adults can claim their child as a dependent until age 24 I believe (give or take a few years, I don't know the law on that 100%).
@Sickopath333 This is true. A newborn after a full term does have fully-formed organs, bones, muscles, etc. A typical home's environment will not kill an infant if there is some adult there to care for it. I am not against adoption. However, a baby one month after conception is simply not capable of surviving outside of a womb, even if cared for. I don't believe medical science could even transfer such a baby to another woman's womb.
@putzthewondersloth Okay, take your wording there, and apply it to the unborn baby. A typical home environment [woman's womb] will not kill an infant if there is some adult [the mother] there to care for it [eats right, doesn't do drugs, what not]. Dependency or personal sustainability isn't really the determining factor and it shouldn't be because dependence will vary widely case to case. A 10 year old will sometimes have to take care of themselves while a 35 year old will be like a kid.
@Sickopath333 Well, being that I'm trying to argue that an apple is red and you counter that I'm wrong because a banana is yellow. I hoped that clarification would help, but to continue along this line would be insanity.
How can you say some passages in the bible are irrelevent? Why do you get to pick and choose in order to support your views, and your views alone? The bible was written by man, not god. My main issue with you anti choice people, is you say you want to protect the rights of unborn babies, yet, you (as a group) cut funding for head start programs, wic and welfare that actually do help them. You seem to care more about a FETUS than actual people.
quarterexchange: you know this conversation is so over. there is no point arguing to someone like you. as i said before in a democratic society: yuo have your opinion & i have mine.
you won't be happy till i agree w your views & it's not going to happen
@quarterexhange PT TWO women experience more pain in their lives than men do. that is a fact. i am only surmising that if men were able to get pregnant, how many would have a 2nd pregnancy.
expecting men to understand menstrual pain, periods, pregnancy & childbirth is like a man trying to get a women to understand the pain of being kicked in his privates.
@quarterexchange: this is a democracy isn't it? so we both have differing views, you're the one who's trying to pick an argument.
all i am saying it's easy for a guy to be prolife (i know there are prolife women too) as you never have to experience the pain of menstruation.pregnancy or childbirth.
@quarterexchange oh please, if men could get pregnant, abortion would be a sacrament, paid for the taxpayer & he would get days off to recover from it.
@ristiaccoorn: the deadliest people in the world are prolifers.
years ago in toronto, a person (it was caught on tape but couldn't make out the face) poured gasoline under the door a prochoice clinic, & set fire to it. he didn''t care that there were renters upstairs above the clinic.
these people will kill anybody in the name of their cause
The bombing of abortion clinics by "pro life" activists are well documented and have never been denounced by pro life activists. The assassination of doctors suspected of performing abortions by "pro life" activists are well documented and have never been denounced by pro life activists. Not one single pro life activist has been killed or even hurt by pro choice activists, and no terrorist bombings of pro life buildings have ever happened.
That makes you a shameless liar, harming your cause.
@quarterexchange You are an idiot, that is an objective fact, not a personal attack.
I think you need to look up objective fact and personal attack before you try to make yourself appear witty. ;) And name calling is an ignorant mind trying to express itself.
Did you do any reading before writing these comments or did you just dream it up all in your head? The earlier you take a pregnancy test the less accurate the results. Meaning a woman is probably going to get a negative test after a week even when it's positive. Or do you suggest she keep taking them until she finds one that is positive?
@quarterexchange You made it look like I was a racist for correclty citing the fact that american couples adopt from foreign nations therefore our foster homes are not full
I was simply stating that it was a pointless reason to ban abortion when the supply of unwanted children around the world greatly outweighs the demand. And when you made the comment yes I did perceive it as racist. Because that was exactly how it came across.
@quarterexchange Waiting a month and not suspecting is inexcusable
Spoken like a true male who has never had any experience with this.
You made it look like I was a racist for correclty citing the fact that american couples adopt from foreign nations therefore our foster homes are not full.
Like I said before. That's because people want to pick and choose what baby they want. An older child isn't good enough for them. And a fertile woman isn't obligated to provide an infertile one with kids.
The fact that american couples are forced to adopt form East Europe, Asia, Africa, etc means that there are not enough children domestically available for adoption.
There are plenty of children available in America for adoption but people feel the need to pick and chose which child they want.
And a lot of people adopt overseas because it is easier. Were are you getting your info from?
@quarterexchange So it takes more than 1 month after you've had sex to use a pregnancy test? Are they too expensive?
-sigh- Did you read what I said? I said after one month a woman may have not had missed period. Especially if she's irregular. So she would have no reason t suspect she was pregnant.
Regarding your second comment it is obvious you are an absolute idiot.
Wow personal attacks really help showcase your maturity.
@quarterexchange One month is not plenty of time to have an abortion. A lot of women have not even had a missed period by then.9 weeks is a fair cut off because the fetus gains consciousness and even then it's up in the air for some circumstances.
And in the U.S., so many kids here are adopted that american couples often have to adopt kids from Eastern Europe, Asia, Africa, etc.
So is that a bad thing? Getting a -gasp- ETHNIC baby? And the demand in this country is for healthy WHITE babies.
@quarterexchange then i want to see you pay for the child support, the food that goes in his mouth and the clothing on its back. YOU try being a single mom working minimum wage. Sometimes abortion is the best choice. Why put another kid up for adoption when we have thousands of neglected children up for adoption already? and btw a 3 month old collection of cells isn't a god damn human.
My late father and I have said for years, from 1st to 12th grade everyschool year shoul start with a reading of the constitution.I agree but if someone can prove they know what was, what is and what will be, from the beginning to the end, they may be able to convince me that they have what it takes to choose.
first of all, i'm pro-choice to an extent, i'm also a very outspoken atheist who has engaged my school chaplin in organised debate. but no, i don't want you dead and only the very worst examples of pro-choicers do.
but i want do address something you said in this video: "god is the only one who can make the choice on who lives and who dies", BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! what a farce!
so basically, what you're saying is that might = right. double-standards much?
It's almost CHRISTmas and I was just thinking about how Marry had a hard struggle and still went threw with it. If Marry could do it so could modern women. If it weren't for pro life my baby cousin would be dead! Pro deathers say that we are anti women but this is a lie it is they who are anti baby. They spout out womens rights but men don't have a right to kill and what if the baby is female. If abortion was around for 2000 years JESUS would not be born and we would be doomed.
@44SCB yes, the Virgin Mary did go through her pregnancy, but Mary (the correct spelling, not Marry) retained her virginity even after the birth of Jesus Christ. women
pro-choice people aren't predisposed to violence or threatening death or actually killing someone say like roeder did. your overblown ego is feeding you a line. most of us feel it is up to the person involved and their circumstances that dictate the best decision for them. pro-life is an oxymoron in an environment where guns and violent deaths plague this society. I would like a law where some people could be tied up and made to watch other people minding their own business. I dream.....
@Mutedvox First,I do not agree with violence...now the facts...There have been over 100 prolifers killed by prochoicers at rallies since 1991...in the late 90s a prolife radio talk show host was murdered in his own living room by a crazy prochoicer.....Since that time some crazy prolifers killed about 5 abortion doctors...Dr.Tiller himself killed over 60,000 babies
@theprolifeguy can you point me to the information you just quoted? I would be interested in seeing this for myself. I would be just as horrified if that was the case where violence was used to make a point or force someone's opinion.
Lol pro life bible thumpers yet pro capital punishment, pro war, anti condom( aids kills) your pro life till the baby is born then u could give a shit less until of course they get to military age more live babies makes more dead soldiers for the good Christian nation that goes to war on a hunch.
christianity is not a factor in whether abortion should be legal or not, someone can use it as a reason why they personally shouldnt get an abortion if they think its agaisnt their religion but that doesnt mean it should be illegal
In the first trimester, the baby isn't even alive technically. The brain hasn't even formed. Abortion is performed in the first trimester. So, abortion is really not any worse than a man masturbating. It's killing a POTENTIAL human being. Now, kicking a newborn baby off a cliff is a different story.
KUDOS to you!! ~ It is truly SOUL-SICKENING what abortion does to an unborn baby. I think that the abortion rate would decline INCREDIBLY (if not stop altogether!!) if before ANY abortion is performed, a truly graphic "BEFORE, DURING and AFTER" video is shown to EVERY woman-at her child's precise fetal age-so she can see with her own eyes, without a doubt that she is paying someone to MURDER her child! We are quicker to defend animals than our own innocent children!!
ok seriously enough about how pro-choicers don't care about people and don't care if people die. Thousands of people die EVERY SECOND!!!! Are we supposed to care for every single one of them? Even if we wanted to, we can't say a prayer for every single death in the world. No I wouldn't care if you dropped dead while making this video. You have no impact on my life whatsoever, and I don't expect you to care If I dropped dead while typing this comment for the same reason.
It's you anti-abortion morons who are the ones shooting down doctors in cold blood not the atheists. You people don't deserve the title: ProLife ! Pro death, pro stupidity is more like it.
@nagzul ; No it's not a strawman. It's the truth. Pro-life is a misnomer. The anti-abortion people are anti-woman. Not only that the bible doesn't say a damn thing about abortion nor does it condemn it . Jesus, Paul never even mention it. So stick it up your ass GodTard.
@nogogma No the bible dosn't mention abortion like it was an issue. But he does say not to shed human blood. An abortion is shedding human blood. He also says many times that he loving you, and forming you in the womb.
@nagzul ; Psalm 51:5 that you are siting says nothing about abortion, it's just a poetic phrasings and metaphors that says nothing about a fetus being human. It's just another desperate attempt by Xtians like you out to prove a cause that isn't even supported by your own primitive out moded book of bullshit. The buy bull.
@nogogma lol that's not even close to the one I'm citing. A fetus is a human just as mcuh as an ant-pupa is an ant. A fetus is an early development of a human. It has its own human information seperate from the mother. Growth of a human started when sex planted the sperm into the egg. The blood of a fetus, is the blood of a human species. WHich God made in his image. Read about what he says on the shedding of human blood when cain killed able.
@nagzul; If you're against abortion, then don't have one. It's none of your fucking business what someone chooses to do with their personal lives. So get the fuck over it and your self-righteous, holier than thou bullishit life of superstition.
@nogogma We still shouldn't be offering them a choice to kill their offspring. You sound more self-rightious here, not me. Your whole argument is in suport of self-rightiousness.
@nogogma Pro-life is pro-life. Anti-death. killing a fetus is death to something growing as its own entitie in the human species. Galatians 1:15 Psalm 139:13,15 Psalm 22:10-11 all about God focusing on the person in the womb. Psalm 106:35, 37-38 -shedding of innocent blood is the worst crime.
They only want to kill the babies who are defenseless , they are scared of grown people , they can't even show their faces on yt.Not even one of them. Anonymous only.
you can't stop women from aborting. if they don't want the baby they will get rid of it one way or the other. sorry it doesn't matter how you much you try you will never stop abortions. the world doesn't work they way you want it to.
By the way, I don't think people want you dead. But you're using religion as an argument and that's ridiculous. Everyone deserves an opinion. If you think pro choicers use bad language, then you should read the pro lifers comments! Horrendous.
pro lifers are hypocrits...they wanna save babies but they blow up buildings and on numerous occasions people are in that building.....how bout your daughter gets raped and you make her have the child.. women finally are starting to get rights and you people want to take that away, you guys are morons
Where exactly in the Bible does it say that as soon as sperm hits an egg it becomes a baby? Seriously... I'd like the quote. And let me remind you, "Let he who is without sin throw the first stone"... why not spend your time doing something that counts, like perhaps trying to HELP some of these women? I have a feeling this guy is single, and if not I feel very VERY sorry for all the women in his life he likes to control.
@whitesnowflakes12 Fantastic... so God knew that that particular fetus would become someone. What you're saying, however, is that your God places souls into all these fetuses knowing they are going to be flushed out within a few weeks? How SICK is your god then?
yeah pro choicers didnt even do research on abortion on their own. they just take as arguments those same things that you hear all the time wich are lies. that they repeat to other people convincing them to be pro choice. go educate yourself on the facts and then make ur decision not the other way around. they make their decision before hearing the fatcs
Quit the opposite actually, at least in my case. Let me ask of you, if all prochoicers try to make the facts fit their position instead of the other way around, why is it that freethinkers are always prochoice?
If you're pro-life, what the hell are you sitting around spouting idiocy and division while thousands die in Haiti. If only it was your advocacy of life that made you hated......dumb ass.
Is it convenient to keep the minimum wage at five dollars? Yes. Is it convenient to make healthcare accesseible to as few as possible for profit purpose? Yes. Is it convenient to gut a treasury and line the pockets of billion dollar institutions? Yes. Now can you put yourself in the shoes of a poor single mother and make such a decision? Why don't you put some energy into the policies that promote such decisions and less into telling the women what she can and can not do through GOVERNMENT?
dude Haiti was an earthquake unpredictable, unstoppable abortion is done on purpouse and everyday right here in our cities and unlike earthquakes they are stopable. The number of deaths in Haiti are nothing compared to the deaths because of abortion. and the worst part is unlike the earthquake, abortion doesnt stop its still going on right now. and who knows maye that guy sent money to haiti Haiti sounds like saddest thing in the wolrd just because u hear it in the news all the time.
I'm pro-choice... I certainly don't want you dead. Infact, in many verses of the bible, god advocates killing of innocent children. So, I guess if your god is okay with that, then he probably doesn't care about the termination of a fetus, which is in other words flesh that is yet to acquire personhood. On a lighter note, you may find my video entertaining. Please watch it. And if you do, feel free to post any comment you like... because unlike you, I will NOT delete your comment.
Yes. But he said nothing about a fetus that is yet to acquire personhood. If your beliefs are that abortion is wrong, then dont have one. But please don't tell others what they can and cannot do with their own body.
Your opening a can of worms for yourself here. "Yet to aquire personhood"? Tell me...when is a human able to have your respect? 1 year old? 2 years old? Are you seriously wanting to abort an already born child because its not up to your intelligence (yet)?
The bible references a fetus as "child" several times e.g. you are with child. Hence when Jesus said don't hurt the little ones he meant ANY child.
PS: its not your body that is dying when you have an abortion. Therefore not your "choice".
To be a person, one must have aquired personhood. A fetus, during an early stage of a pregnancy, is moreorless flesh with no capacity to think. Therefore, it is not fair to say a fetus is a person.
The Bible may refer to a fetus as a child. That should not have any bearing on whether a woman has the right to abort the fetus. In both of our countries, we have separation from church and state.
To be a person you must aquire personhood?! What are you talking about? These are HUMAN BEINGS just like us. If they are given the chance to live they will grow to have our abilities. The potential is there. Or is potential to be a "person" not enough for you?
Just flesh is it? Then why does it have the form of a human at 12 weeks? Arms, legs, Heart? Its not a cancerous tumor your removing. Its a living human.
Church and state has nothing to do with killing an innocent life for profit.
@obts10 Arms, legs, heart, yet no ability of any awarness or to think whatsoever. How is it a human being?
Terminating a fetus, thus preventing it from becoming a person is not the same as killing a person.
Regarding the remark about killing for profit, if I were able to, I would open a non profit abortion clinic so as I could charitably terminate unwanted pregnancies for women who lacked the funds. Because being prochoice, I want to help people. But I guess you would rather help a fetus.
You should keep your big fat nose out of other peoples business. There is a line where we draw that it is definantly a baby. On one side of this line we call it a fetus. It is up to the doctor and the woman to make this decision not yours. So go poke your nose elsewhere.
You are foolish enough to think that abortion should be illegal. It is not up to you to decide this. It should be between a doctor and the woman, and you should keep your nose out of it.
"They try to use tactics" - I on the other like to ramble on meaninglessly for 5 minutes and make no points.
"I read the constitution" , "I also read the bible"
Well what's the point in reading the constitution if you are going to read something anathema to it afterward.
I am pro-choice, I have never quoted that part of exodus but one part I would draw attention to is the part where God orders every first born Egyptian child to death even though they are innocent. Nice god you have.
What about all of the innocent men, women, and children murdered in Iraq because an idiot supposed believer was voted into the white house, who's biggest ally in his electoral victory was his religion and all of his mindless zombie followers. The only thing I can't win is your mind. That I leave up to you. Its up to you to stop believing because someone told you to, and to grow up, and to start learning the facts.
Murder in the name of "God" has been the reason for thousands upon thousands of murders. Far greater than the number of muders from abortion. Put that in your crack pipe and smoke it.
I've heard every question by pro-lifers, and I always have an answer. I've read the constitution and the bible as well. Ask me anything pro-life guy and I can defeat any question you throw at me.
My question for you is, do you believe animals are sub human? If you got a parasite in your body, lets say cancer, and it was on the verge of killing you, and science had a cure for it. Would you take that cure?
The next question for you is, how is killing an animal different from killing a child?
Also, why are you pro life? What is your reasoning?
I'm just concerned as a fellow human being, what is the factual logic that makes you feel that others shouldn't be able to choose?
Well,I can't tell you what to do...You have to do what your own conscience tells you to do...But I know a couple of women who were raped years ago & wish they had kept that child...They always think about their aborted baby..What it would look like,be like today...I know others who were raped & had the child & they say they are so happy they didn't abort because they couldn't picture their life without him or her...I pray you find your answer
First of all Im a man and I did not imply that I was a rape victim, second, you doged the question altogether. What is your personal opinion? I don't want to hear some story about a woman you know, I want your answer.
You still cannot answer my question. Not only can you not man up and answer me, but now you are making psuedo threats. For a life loving man of god, you sure seem like a sad and angry guy.
Fess up man...You are the sad one...I answered the question the best I know how..I've been part of the pro-life movement for almost 30 years now..6 years before you were born...I have heard every kind of story about abortions from women who did & didn't..I can't make anybody do what I want...I can only suggest..That question is unanswerable..But let me just say that if rape or a womans health was the only way to get an abortion,more than a million babies in the USA would be saved every year
Well see I don't mind what other peoples opinions are, but when I have people telling me I'm a bad person cuz of my beliefs thats when I simply point out that they need to look in a mirror
there are extremeists on both ends of this debate... Its is unfortunate that they exist... I wish people could just respect each others decisions without resorting caveman type behavior...
Terrible comments on your youtube channel? More terrible than your supporters stating that "pro aborts cowards are sub human bottomfeeding rabid beast that should all be shot."
So you're projecting the feelings you have on what you have identified as your opposition. What that means is you want pro-choice people dead. It's kind of like calling someone an asshole by saying that you're not calling them an asshole. Clever. The difference between you and me is that you think our government should be able to force a pregnant teenager to give birth and I don't think it should have that power.
for every pro-choice er , there was a pro-life mother, who chose to give them life , jesus said it like this , those who love death , hate me , for i am life . keep standing prolifeguy/ its not any easy job. but i am glad your doing it , god bless you
I've heard the stupid masterbation argument a million times...The Bible is a KJV..I love the olde english...Can you understand it as well?...I am against abortion after fertilization....Barring that you can wack yourself till the cows come home for all I care
Noticed you only showed the back of your bible... which version of the bible are you holding???
ever use a condom--- catholic church thinks using condoms is the same as abortion.
this is why our founding fathers didn't let any one religion dictate its laws on the rest.... its a slippery slope to theological tyranny where a masturbation will be prosecuted as genocide.
i have an argument against you- if it is only up to God to kill people, than there could be No war, and No capital punishment.... Look, I understand your viewpoint, but will never agree with it- no matter what YOU personally believe, has no effect on what I or anyone else should do with our bodies- you see a fetus as a baby. i do not. and to let you know, pro choicers have already WON- we have a pro choice president, and women's rights and choices are protected still to this day. :-)
for me to agree with you, i would have to believe that a fetus is a baby, which i do not. also, if you were to fight for the right of a fetus... or your pro life ways- then once again women would have lost their rights.
Well, I don't think a fetus's right should be put before an ACTUAL humans life (The mother)... I just find it baffling that you think you have the right to tell every single woman what is right for them in their life... what makes you so special that YOU know what is right and that YOU know what is wrong, and that WE should all just follow and believe you.
I don't think YOUR LIFE should be put over an ACTUAL life such as mine. I find it baffling for you to think that you can tell me what to do on my property. I found you trespassing, now I want you dead. Maybe it wasn't your fault your here one my property but I don't care.
Our Unborn Lives They really think they have the right, morning noontime day or night. To take our lives we hold so dear, and throw them away out of all their fear. We are so small we cannot fight, or speak out loud to save our life. They took our lives out of fear, afraid to loose the fun they love so dear. They ground us up and sucked us out, without a thought a tear or doubt. Now we're dead but our souls still live, we have but one question left where was our right to live.
I've seen many ignorant statements below about sperm dying and thats killings potential babies.Life begins at conception after the sperm and egg have produced with God grace a living, heart beating live baby reguardless of what week or term.If any procedure takes place willingly through mans intervention to destroy the fetus(CHILD/BABY) and take the childs life.Then it is and should be treated as, PREMEDITATED MURDER!! Thats Just The Cold Hard Facts!Like it or Not!
Are you a woman? No you aren't. Are you God? No you aren't. Do you realize that there are pro-choicers that aren't religious at all. They don't believe in God. But that doesn't mean that their stance is wrong. I have an argument and it is a good one. Unlike you, I am not arrogant. I know what it feels like. You can't tell me I don't care about the babies. You will never know what it feels like. You will never "save all the babies of the world". This video was just a bunch of words.
You say that no one has the right to choose who lives and who dies but God. The problem with that is, the government doesn't have that right, either. A pro-life America would be doing God's work for Him. No one, not even God, would have the choice, unless it's an illegal abortion. Flawed logic, flawed video, flawed channel.
God said: if someone has committed an atrocity like murder that the state should execute them. God made that decision. He did NOT however authorize the slaughter of innocent children on a whim.
Key phrase: "on a WHIM." God may have decided that a nation of people should be destroyed, but He is the Creator of life and He has the right to take it away. It's not our right to choose to take innocent life, be it before or after birth.
The "pro choice" stand is an excuse to live a selfish life at any expense.
Well you're going to be disappointed. Pro-lifers should be re-labeled: "Pro-Justice-ers" OR "Pro-Innocent-Lifers." We believe that someone who takes an innocent person's life has forfeited their right to life. They have made a CHOICE to harm an innocent person. The tiny unborn child has done nothing wrong. Their parents f***ed, and then they have their limbs and heads ripped off.
i am just saying, then your whole argument makes no sense- either ONLY God has the right to take lives, or people do too... you cannot have it both ways! And many abortions.. MOST abortions occur BEFORE the fetus has an developed features, like heads and arms....
Its funny because these people get so heated about abortion, but have no problem with other forms of murder. They would like to pretend that they are good and decent people, but the problem is that good and decent people don't advocate any killing period. They like to speak for god as well. Im no expert on the christian faith, but I think If god did exist, he wouldn't want people using his name to validify their opinions, I think its called blasphemy.
The abortion issue is so debatable that the law says we must let the women decide if it's right or wrong and what makes a human and whatnot. Thus, the pro-life stance only means you're way too arrogant on your stance on what a human is and what God thinks that you wish to shove it down everyone's throat. It also means, because of the circumstances, that you're willing to pay for a pro-life America at the cost of the union. You're arrogant, and anti-American.
Oh and I suppose people activley campaigning for the right of the elderly to live on and not be killed by the government is anti American? USE YOUR HEAD.
(I don't believe in death panel bullshit I'm pro obama and prolife so don't think that was a reference).
I hope someone shoots you.
prochoicenz 3 months ago
So are all your arguements as accurate as you having read the constitution 50,000,000 times?
But I digress. If a woman were to decide that she no longer wanted her baby after a month and elected to have it removed, unharmed, isn't it the fault of the child, this supposedly independant human being, for not surviving? Or prehaps there is some merit to the fact that the embryo is still a part of the woman.
Discuss.
putzthewondersloth 5 months ago
@putzthewondersloth Umm, no, not at all. It's simple to disprove this idea. Take a child who is born full term and just leave it be for a while. It can't take care of itself, this independent human being, because it is entirely dependent: therefore it is not human? Dependency is not a factor in whether or not you're human; legally adults can claim their child as a dependent until age 24 I believe (give or take a few years, I don't know the law on that 100%).
Sickopath333 3 months ago
@Sickopath333 This is true. A newborn after a full term does have fully-formed organs, bones, muscles, etc. A typical home's environment will not kill an infant if there is some adult there to care for it. I am not against adoption. However, a baby one month after conception is simply not capable of surviving outside of a womb, even if cared for. I don't believe medical science could even transfer such a baby to another woman's womb.
putzthewondersloth 3 months ago
@putzthewondersloth Okay, take your wording there, and apply it to the unborn baby. A typical home environment [woman's womb] will not kill an infant if there is some adult [the mother] there to care for it [eats right, doesn't do drugs, what not]. Dependency or personal sustainability isn't really the determining factor and it shouldn't be because dependence will vary widely case to case. A 10 year old will sometimes have to take care of themselves while a 35 year old will be like a kid.
Sickopath333 3 months ago
@Sickopath333 Now you're just being argumentative.
Here's a very simple yes or no for you: Can a one-month-old live outside of its mother's womb?
putzthewondersloth 3 months ago
@putzthewondersloth You expect me to agree with you when your point, albeit technically correct, is invalid?
No. It isn't a relevant or worthwhile distinction though for the reasons I've already outlined.
Sickopath333 3 months ago
@Sickopath333 Well, being that I'm trying to argue that an apple is red and you counter that I'm wrong because a banana is yellow. I hoped that clarification would help, but to continue along this line would be insanity.
Fare thee well.
putzthewondersloth 3 months ago
Your right man I am pro life and any decent Christian should be keep up the good word.
mickeyroos76 7 months ago
How can you say some passages in the bible are irrelevent? Why do you get to pick and choose in order to support your views, and your views alone? The bible was written by man, not god. My main issue with you anti choice people, is you say you want to protect the rights of unborn babies, yet, you (as a group) cut funding for head start programs, wic and welfare that actually do help them. You seem to care more about a FETUS than actual people.
TheStephTrudel 9 months ago
you ain't worth killing.
dragonpat666 11 months ago
quarterexchange: you know this conversation is so over. there is no point arguing to someone like you. as i said before in a democratic society: yuo have your opinion & i have mine.
you won't be happy till i agree w your views & it's not going to happen
canadianskye1964 11 months ago
@quarterexhange PT TWO women experience more pain in their lives than men do. that is a fact. i am only surmising that if men were able to get pregnant, how many would have a 2nd pregnancy.
expecting men to understand menstrual pain, periods, pregnancy & childbirth is like a man trying to get a women to understand the pain of being kicked in his privates.
that is why my comment is "satire" to you.
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canadianskye1964 11 months ago
@quarterexchange: this is a democracy isn't it? so we both have differing views, you're the one who's trying to pick an argument.
all i am saying it's easy for a guy to be prolife (i know there are prolife women too) as you never have to experience the pain of menstruation.pregnancy or childbirth.
canadianskye1964 11 months ago
@quarterexchange you have the right to think the way you do & i have the right to think what i do. fair enough?
canadianskye1964 11 months ago
@quarterexchange see my above comment about men getting pregnant. i stand by it.
canadianskye1964 11 months ago
people there are millions if children in orphanes in north america who are crying out to be adopted.
but since they are not cute little babies, they don't have a chance in hell of being adopted.
they need the love & care that a couple coule provide, but nobody thinks about them
shame!
canadianskye1964 11 months ago
@quarterexchange oh please, if men could get pregnant, abortion would be a sacrament, paid for the taxpayer & he would get days off to recover from it.
canadianskye1964 11 months ago
@risincoon: (sorry about mispelling your name earlier)
in his video about dr tiller's murder by a prolife (dr tiller was murdered in his church) the prolife guy said
he didn't condone what the prolifer did but he was glad dr tiller was dead
this is condoning the murdes of abortion providers
canadianskye1964 11 months ago
@ristiaccoorn: the deadliest people in the world are prolifers.
years ago in toronto, a person (it was caught on tape but couldn't make out the face) poured gasoline under the door a prochoice clinic, & set fire to it. he didn''t care that there were renters upstairs above the clinic.
these people will kill anybody in the name of their cause
canadianskye1964 11 months ago
you bet as much as you wanted dr tiller to die
canadianskye1964 11 months ago
Im not pro choice or pro life, and I still want you dead...nothing personal, I just hate your soul patch
imabadking 1 year ago
The bombing of abortion clinics by "pro life" activists are well documented and have never been denounced by pro life activists. The assassination of doctors suspected of performing abortions by "pro life" activists are well documented and have never been denounced by pro life activists. Not one single pro life activist has been killed or even hurt by pro choice activists, and no terrorist bombings of pro life buildings have ever happened.
That makes you a shameless liar, harming your cause.
ristinraccoon 1 year ago
@quarterexchange You are an idiot, that is an objective fact, not a personal attack.
I think you need to look up objective fact and personal attack before you try to make yourself appear witty. ;) And name calling is an ignorant mind trying to express itself.
xlovexothersxalsox 1 year ago
@quarterexchange you should take one within a week.
Did you do any reading before writing these comments or did you just dream it up all in your head? The earlier you take a pregnancy test the less accurate the results. Meaning a woman is probably going to get a negative test after a week even when it's positive. Or do you suggest she keep taking them until she finds one that is positive?
xlovexothersxalsox 1 year ago
@quarterexchange You made it look like I was a racist for correclty citing the fact that american couples adopt from foreign nations therefore our foster homes are not full
I was simply stating that it was a pointless reason to ban abortion when the supply of unwanted children around the world greatly outweighs the demand. And when you made the comment yes I did perceive it as racist. Because that was exactly how it came across.
xlovexothersxalsox 1 year ago
@quarterexchange That's why they look to overseas adoption.
A KID IS A KID WHO GIVES A DAMN WHERE IT'S FROM?
xlovexothersxalsox 1 year ago
@quarterexchange Waiting a month and not suspecting is inexcusable
Spoken like a true male who has never had any experience with this.
You made it look like I was a racist for correclty citing the fact that american couples adopt from foreign nations therefore our foster homes are not full.
Like I said before. That's because people want to pick and choose what baby they want. An older child isn't good enough for them. And a fertile woman isn't obligated to provide an infertile one with kids.
xlovexothersxalsox 1 year ago
The fact that american couples are forced to adopt form East Europe, Asia, Africa, etc means that there are not enough children domestically available for adoption.
There are plenty of children available in America for adoption but people feel the need to pick and chose which child they want.
And a lot of people adopt overseas because it is easier. Were are you getting your info from?
xlovexothersxalsox 1 year ago
@quarterexchange So it takes more than 1 month after you've had sex to use a pregnancy test? Are they too expensive?
-sigh- Did you read what I said? I said after one month a woman may have not had missed period. Especially if she's irregular. So she would have no reason t suspect she was pregnant.
Regarding your second comment it is obvious you are an absolute idiot.
Wow personal attacks really help showcase your maturity.
xlovexothersxalsox 1 year ago
@quarterexchange One month is not plenty of time to have an abortion. A lot of women have not even had a missed period by then.9 weeks is a fair cut off because the fetus gains consciousness and even then it's up in the air for some circumstances.
And in the U.S., so many kids here are adopted that american couples often have to adopt kids from Eastern Europe, Asia, Africa, etc.
So is that a bad thing? Getting a -gasp- ETHNIC baby? And the demand in this country is for healthy WHITE babies.
xlovexothersxalsox 1 year ago
@quarterexchange then i want to see you pay for the child support, the food that goes in his mouth and the clothing on its back. YOU try being a single mom working minimum wage. Sometimes abortion is the best choice. Why put another kid up for adoption when we have thousands of neglected children up for adoption already? and btw a 3 month old collection of cells isn't a god damn human.
dvssk8er3 1 year ago
My late father and I have said for years, from 1st to 12th grade everyschool year shoul start with a reading of the constitution.I agree but if someone can prove they know what was, what is and what will be, from the beginning to the end, they may be able to convince me that they have what it takes to choose.
daddyg321 1 year ago
first of all, i'm pro-choice to an extent, i'm also a very outspoken atheist who has engaged my school chaplin in organised debate. but no, i don't want you dead and only the very worst examples of pro-choicers do.
but i want do address something you said in this video: "god is the only one who can make the choice on who lives and who dies", BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! what a farce!
so basically, what you're saying is that might = right. double-standards much?
FormulaOneFan4Eva 1 year ago
It's almost CHRISTmas and I was just thinking about how Marry had a hard struggle and still went threw with it. If Marry could do it so could modern women. If it weren't for pro life my baby cousin would be dead! Pro deathers say that we are anti women but this is a lie it is they who are anti baby. They spout out womens rights but men don't have a right to kill and what if the baby is female. If abortion was around for 2000 years JESUS would not be born and we would be doomed.
44SCB 1 year ago
@44SCB yes, the Virgin Mary did go through her pregnancy, but Mary (the correct spelling, not Marry) retained her virginity even after the birth of Jesus Christ. women
no other woman has been able to do that, so.....
so what's your point
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I don't want you dead I just think you are full of shit.
CamillaCalamity 1 year ago
if your pro-life then your simply anti woman
dvssk8er3 1 year ago
pro-choice people aren't predisposed to violence or threatening death or actually killing someone say like roeder did. your overblown ego is feeding you a line. most of us feel it is up to the person involved and their circumstances that dictate the best decision for them. pro-life is an oxymoron in an environment where guns and violent deaths plague this society. I would like a law where some people could be tied up and made to watch other people minding their own business. I dream.....
Mutedvox 1 year ago
@Mutedvox First,I do not agree with violence...now the facts...There have been over 100 prolifers killed by prochoicers at rallies since 1991...in the late 90s a prolife radio talk show host was murdered in his own living room by a crazy prochoicer.....Since that time some crazy prolifers killed about 5 abortion doctors...Dr.Tiller himself killed over 60,000 babies
theprolifeguy 1 year ago 3
@theprolifeguy can you point me to the information you just quoted? I would be interested in seeing this for myself. I would be just as horrified if that was the case where violence was used to make a point or force someone's opinion.
Mutedvox 1 year ago
@theprolifeguy The Facts? According to who? A Marxists Scholars?
breedofdavid 8 months ago
Lol pro life bible thumpers yet pro capital punishment, pro war, anti condom( aids kills) your pro life till the baby is born then u could give a shit less until of course they get to military age more live babies makes more dead soldiers for the good Christian nation that goes to war on a hunch.
zarassien 1 year ago
christianity is not a factor in whether abortion should be legal or not, someone can use it as a reason why they personally shouldnt get an abortion if they think its agaisnt their religion but that doesnt mean it should be illegal
YOYOdaMOOSE 1 year ago
so if i kill a 20 year old woman as long as no one knew her its ok pro choicers?
MattHXIV 1 year ago
If it's ok to kill an unborn baby, shouldn't it also be okay to kill a prematurely born baby?
aaa333ify 1 year ago
I am pro-choice and I dont want you death until you convert into pro-choice so you may die in peace.
PALOMITA694 1 year ago
2:30 to 2:46 summarizes this entire video.
DoomExtreme1 1 year ago
In the first trimester, the baby isn't even alive technically. The brain hasn't even formed. Abortion is performed in the first trimester. So, abortion is really not any worse than a man masturbating. It's killing a POTENTIAL human being. Now, kicking a newborn baby off a cliff is a different story.
es1skeetboard 1 year ago
KUDOS to you!! ~ It is truly SOUL-SICKENING what abortion does to an unborn baby. I think that the abortion rate would decline INCREDIBLY (if not stop altogether!!) if before ANY abortion is performed, a truly graphic "BEFORE, DURING and AFTER" video is shown to EVERY woman-at her child's precise fetal age-so she can see with her own eyes, without a doubt that she is paying someone to MURDER her child! We are quicker to defend animals than our own innocent children!!
WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!!
jbsabsr 1 year ago
ok seriously enough about how pro-choicers don't care about people and don't care if people die. Thousands of people die EVERY SECOND!!!! Are we supposed to care for every single one of them? Even if we wanted to, we can't say a prayer for every single death in the world. No I wouldn't care if you dropped dead while making this video. You have no impact on my life whatsoever, and I don't expect you to care If I dropped dead while typing this comment for the same reason.
LibertarianCatholic 1 year ago
It's you anti-abortion morons who are the ones shooting down doctors in cold blood not the atheists. You people don't deserve the title: ProLife ! Pro death, pro stupidity is more like it.
nogogma 1 year ago 5
@nogogma That's a strawman. Obviously those people who have, were hippocrites.
nagzul 1 year ago
@nagzul ; No it's not a strawman. It's the truth. Pro-life is a misnomer. The anti-abortion people are anti-woman. Not only that the bible doesn't say a damn thing about abortion nor does it condemn it . Jesus, Paul never even mention it. So stick it up your ass GodTard.
nogogma 1 year ago
@nogogma " anti-abortion people are anti-woman" is a stawman. You are creating a "since A = B then C = D" argument.
nagzul 1 year ago
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@nogogma " anti-abortion people are anti-woman" is a stawman. You are creating a "since A = B then C = D" argument.
nagzul 1 year ago
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@nogogma " anti-abortion people are anti-woman" is a stawman. You are creating a "since A=B then C=D" argument.
nagzul 1 year ago
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@nogogma " anti-abortion people are anti-woman" is a stawman. You are creating a "since A=B then C=D" argument.
nagzul 1 year ago
@nogogma No the bible dosn't mention abortion like it was an issue. But he does say not to shed human blood. An abortion is shedding human blood. He also says many times that he loving you, and forming you in the womb.
nagzul 1 year ago
@nagzul ; Psalm 51:5 that you are siting says nothing about abortion, it's just a poetic phrasings and metaphors that says nothing about a fetus being human. It's just another desperate attempt by Xtians like you out to prove a cause that isn't even supported by your own primitive out moded book of bullshit. The buy bull.
nogogma 1 year ago
@nogogma lol that's not even close to the one I'm citing. A fetus is a human just as mcuh as an ant-pupa is an ant. A fetus is an early development of a human. It has its own human information seperate from the mother. Growth of a human started when sex planted the sperm into the egg. The blood of a fetus, is the blood of a human species. WHich God made in his image. Read about what he says on the shedding of human blood when cain killed able.
nagzul 1 year ago
@nagzul; If you're against abortion, then don't have one. It's none of your fucking business what someone chooses to do with their personal lives. So get the fuck over it and your self-righteous, holier than thou bullishit life of superstition.
nogogma 1 year ago
@nogogma We still shouldn't be offering them a choice to kill their offspring. You sound more self-rightious here, not me. Your whole argument is in suport of self-rightiousness.
nagzul 1 year ago
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@nagzul ; Why don't you go fuck off retard.
nogogma 1 year ago
@nogogma Pro-life is pro-life. Anti-death. killing a fetus is death to something growing as its own entitie in the human species. Galatians 1:15 Psalm 139:13,15 Psalm 22:10-11 all about God focusing on the person in the womb. Psalm 106:35, 37-38 -shedding of innocent blood is the worst crime.
nagzul 1 year ago
Are you an unwanted fetus?
kausidya 1 year ago
They only want to kill the babies who are defenseless , they are scared of grown people , they can't even show their faces on yt.Not even one of them. Anonymous only.
vulpinerose 1 year ago
you can't stop women from aborting. if they don't want the baby they will get rid of it one way or the other. sorry it doesn't matter how you much you try you will never stop abortions. the world doesn't work they way you want it to.
schapman235 1 year ago
By the way, I don't think people want you dead. But you're using religion as an argument and that's ridiculous. Everyone deserves an opinion. If you think pro choicers use bad language, then you should read the pro lifers comments! Horrendous.
78Crea 2 years ago
I don't think people want him killed either. Besides, he's clearly already brain dead.
ricksparks 2 years ago
I'm sure there are some people who want you dead, maybe it's because of the terrible video posts!
78Crea 2 years ago
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pro lifers are hypocrits...they wanna save babies but they blow up buildings and on numerous occasions people are in that building.....how bout your daughter gets raped and you make her have the child.. women finally are starting to get rights and you people want to take that away, you guys are morons
lovebitesbleed 2 years ago
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"Legal Abortion: Essential for a Free Society"
ChannelATA 2 years ago
Where exactly in the Bible does it say that as soon as sperm hits an egg it becomes a baby? Seriously... I'd like the quote. And let me remind you, "Let he who is without sin throw the first stone"... why not spend your time doing something that counts, like perhaps trying to HELP some of these women? I have a feeling this guy is single, and if not I feel very VERY sorry for all the women in his life he likes to control.
violetkitten831 2 years ago
"Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you." Jeremiah1:5
WhiteSnowflakes12 2 years ago 2
@whitesnowflakes12 Fantastic... so God knew that that particular fetus would become someone. What you're saying, however, is that your God places souls into all these fetuses knowing they are going to be flushed out within a few weeks? How SICK is your god then?
violetkitten831 2 years ago
If you read all of Jeremiah, it is quite clear that the character "god" is addressing ONE person.
You're taking the line way out of context.
Besides, if you're a REAL Christian, please give me all of your money.
Before you answer, try this:
Matthew 5:42 Give to all who ask of you, and turn thou not away those who seek a loan.
ricksparks 2 years ago
@WhiteSnowflakes12 So God knows and consecrated dead aborted babies? That's a little disturbing.
chewyballer 1 year ago
yeah pro choicers didnt even do research on abortion on their own. they just take as arguments those same things that you hear all the time wich are lies. that they repeat to other people convincing them to be pro choice. go educate yourself on the facts and then make ur decision not the other way around. they make their decision before hearing the fatcs
leviathan94xxx 2 years ago
Quit the opposite actually, at least in my case. Let me ask of you, if all prochoicers try to make the facts fit their position instead of the other way around, why is it that freethinkers are always prochoice?
Fuctmentality 2 years ago
If you're pro-life, what the hell are you sitting around spouting idiocy and division while thousands die in Haiti. If only it was your advocacy of life that made you hated......dumb ass.
callouschristian 2 years ago
Millions of innocent babies are killed each year due because its convenient. A tradgedy is it not?
No, you are dumb for not seeing your own hypocrisy.
obts10 2 years ago
Is it convenient to keep the minimum wage at five dollars? Yes. Is it convenient to make healthcare accesseible to as few as possible for profit purpose? Yes. Is it convenient to gut a treasury and line the pockets of billion dollar institutions? Yes. Now can you put yourself in the shoes of a poor single mother and make such a decision? Why don't you put some energy into the policies that promote such decisions and less into telling the women what she can and can not do through GOVERNMENT?
callouschristian 2 years ago
dude Haiti was an earthquake unpredictable, unstoppable abortion is done on purpouse and everyday right here in our cities and unlike earthquakes they are stopable. The number of deaths in Haiti are nothing compared to the deaths because of abortion. and the worst part is unlike the earthquake, abortion doesnt stop its still going on right now. and who knows maye that guy sent money to haiti Haiti sounds like saddest thing in the wolrd just because u hear it in the news all the time.
leviathan94xxx 2 years ago
but trust me there are worst things
leviathan94xxx 2 years ago
I'm pro-choice... I certainly don't want you dead. Infact, in many verses of the bible, god advocates killing of innocent children. So, I guess if your god is okay with that, then he probably doesn't care about the termination of a fetus, which is in other words flesh that is yet to acquire personhood. On a lighter note, you may find my video entertaining. Please watch it. And if you do, feel free to post any comment you like... because unlike you, I will NOT delete your comment.
raulmelancholy 2 years ago
@raulmelancholy You obviusly did not watch this video. Jesus told us not to hurt the little ones.
obts10 2 years ago
Yes. But he said nothing about a fetus that is yet to acquire personhood. If your beliefs are that abortion is wrong, then dont have one. But please don't tell others what they can and cannot do with their own body.
raulmelancholy 2 years ago
Your opening a can of worms for yourself here. "Yet to aquire personhood"? Tell me...when is a human able to have your respect? 1 year old? 2 years old? Are you seriously wanting to abort an already born child because its not up to your intelligence (yet)?
The bible references a fetus as "child" several times e.g. you are with child. Hence when Jesus said don't hurt the little ones he meant ANY child.
PS: its not your body that is dying when you have an abortion. Therefore not your "choice".
obts10 2 years ago
To be a person, one must have aquired personhood. A fetus, during an early stage of a pregnancy, is moreorless flesh with no capacity to think. Therefore, it is not fair to say a fetus is a person.
The Bible may refer to a fetus as a child. That should not have any bearing on whether a woman has the right to abort the fetus. In both of our countries, we have separation from church and state.
raulmelancholy 2 years ago
To be a person you must aquire personhood?! What are you talking about? These are HUMAN BEINGS just like us. If they are given the chance to live they will grow to have our abilities. The potential is there. Or is potential to be a "person" not enough for you?
Just flesh is it? Then why does it have the form of a human at 12 weeks? Arms, legs, Heart? Its not a cancerous tumor your removing. Its a living human.
Church and state has nothing to do with killing an innocent life for profit.
obts10 2 years ago
@obts10 Arms, legs, heart, yet no ability of any awarness or to think whatsoever. How is it a human being?
Terminating a fetus, thus preventing it from becoming a person is not the same as killing a person.
Regarding the remark about killing for profit, if I were able to, I would open a non profit abortion clinic so as I could charitably terminate unwanted pregnancies for women who lacked the funds. Because being prochoice, I want to help people. But I guess you would rather help a fetus.
raulmelancholy 2 years ago
You should keep your big fat nose out of other peoples business. There is a line where we draw that it is definantly a baby. On one side of this line we call it a fetus. It is up to the doctor and the woman to make this decision not yours. So go poke your nose elsewhere.
theshadowify 2 years ago
noob go educate yourself on the fats about abortion and then make your decision instead of basing your decisisons on lies naive...
leviathan94xxx 2 years ago
You are foolish enough to think that abortion should be illegal. It is not up to you to decide this. It should be between a doctor and the woman, and you should keep your nose out of it.
theshadowify 2 years ago 2
its not your body dipshit it's the kid's body thats what all of you pro lifers dont understand. Its IN you but it;s Not you
leviathan94xxx 2 years ago
"They try to use tactics" - I on the other like to ramble on meaninglessly for 5 minutes and make no points.
"I read the constitution" , "I also read the bible"
Well what's the point in reading the constitution if you are going to read something anathema to it afterward.
I am pro-choice, I have never quoted that part of exodus but one part I would draw attention to is the part where God orders every first born Egyptian child to death even though they are innocent. Nice god you have.
EclecticSceptic 2 years ago
you are fucked in the head.
Nytephyre 2 years ago
The laws in this country don't need to be changed, save for our laws about corporate interests. Its our foreign policy that needs to be changed.
laag4 2 years ago
Dude... You're clearly pro-BIRTH, not pro-LIFE.
ashley060189 2 years ago
What about all of the innocent men, women, and children murdered in Iraq because an idiot supposed believer was voted into the white house, who's biggest ally in his electoral victory was his religion and all of his mindless zombie followers. The only thing I can't win is your mind. That I leave up to you. Its up to you to stop believing because someone told you to, and to grow up, and to start learning the facts.
laag4 2 years ago
@laag4 could you please tell me the facts.
chriscakeboyhughes 2 years ago
No I cant, and my claims are just as valid as his. If you want to know the facts, don't ask someone to tell them to you, go find them out yourself.
laag4 2 years ago
Murder in the name of "God" has been the reason for thousands upon thousands of murders. Far greater than the number of muders from abortion. Put that in your crack pipe and smoke it.
laag4 2 years ago
I've heard every question by pro-lifers, and I always have an answer. I've read the constitution and the bible as well. Ask me anything pro-life guy and I can defeat any question you throw at me.
laag4 2 years ago
pro-lifers quote the bible, pro-choicers quote the bible too.
Pro-lifers quote the constitution, pro-choicers quote the constitution too.
Pro-lifers quote real life people, pro-choicers quote real life people too.
the point is, these are not accurate sources for getting an exact image of abortion. So don't use them. Make us all happy.
Nice way to waste another day for you, huh. (<-- personal attack back to you. as a 'thanks for that great opening speech')
7777777luck 2 years ago
Also, if its always god's will who lives or dies, why is it not god's will when people decide they don't want a child?
laag4 2 years ago
My question for you is, do you believe animals are sub human? If you got a parasite in your body, lets say cancer, and it was on the verge of killing you, and science had a cure for it. Would you take that cure?
The next question for you is, how is killing an animal different from killing a child?
Also, why are you pro life? What is your reasoning?
I'm just concerned as a fellow human being, what is the factual logic that makes you feel that others shouldn't be able to choose?
laag4 2 years ago
Actually I don't believe cancer is really a parasite, its a growth... so how about AIDS
laag4 2 years ago
really just looks like you are looking for people to argue with you, in doing so makes you look very sad
stevienickslover 2 years ago
Do you believe that a rape victim who becomes pregnant should have to go through with the pregnancy?
ARBNM 2 years ago
Well,I can't tell you what to do...You have to do what your own conscience tells you to do...But I know a couple of women who were raped years ago & wish they had kept that child...They always think about their aborted baby..What it would look like,be like today...I know others who were raped & had the child & they say they are so happy they didn't abort because they couldn't picture their life without him or her...I pray you find your answer
theprolifeguy 2 years ago
First of all Im a man and I did not imply that I was a rape victim, second, you doged the question altogether. What is your personal opinion? I don't want to hear some story about a woman you know, I want your answer.
ARBNM 2 years ago
You are pretty snappy for somebody who doesn't show their face...If you don't like what I do,make your own videos..Put a name & a face to it.
theprolifeguy 2 years ago
You still cannot answer my question. Not only can you not man up and answer me, but now you are making psuedo threats. For a life loving man of god, you sure seem like a sad and angry guy.
ARBNM 2 years ago
Fess up man...You are the sad one...I answered the question the best I know how..I've been part of the pro-life movement for almost 30 years now..6 years before you were born...I have heard every kind of story about abortions from women who did & didn't..I can't make anybody do what I want...I can only suggest..That question is unanswerable..But let me just say that if rape or a womans health was the only way to get an abortion,more than a million babies in the USA would be saved every year
theprolifeguy 2 years ago
Well I'm a pro-life atheist.
Noahthebeast09 1 year ago
@ARBNM BLAH BLAH BLAH! Go take your meds...
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BrittyB514 2 years ago
Well see I don't mind what other peoples opinions are, but when I have people telling me I'm a bad person cuz of my beliefs thats when I simply point out that they need to look in a mirror
The8Incredible6Bulk 2 years ago
we already have won dude, but still i dont want u dead
shampoo618 2 years ago
I'm sure there were peaceful, opinion respecting conversations about if Jews were human or not before the holocaust.
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treegirltry 2 years ago
there are extremeists on both ends of this debate... Its is unfortunate that they exist... I wish people could just respect each others decisions without resorting caveman type behavior...
Spungolicious 2 years ago
Yea but if that were to happen world peace would have already been achieved lmao.
The8Incredible6Bulk 2 years ago
Yup. I've seen absolutely no respectful debates on this subject. Neither side can respect the others' beliefs.
zweg2 2 years ago
my beliefs are not a reflections of his.
i don't consider myself to be his supporter, but i do agree with alot of the stuff he says.
that doesn't mean he agrees with the stuff i say.
pro aborts have robbed their preborn victims of their personhood therefore I refuse to consider an abortionist to be a person.
they are more like parasites from my point of view.
tiller THE BABY KILLER was a monster...
I am extremely happy that he is dead... i hope there is a hell for people like him.
HILLBILLYPOWER 2 years ago
Do you support capitol punishment? Im just curious as to where the line is drawn with legal murder.
ARBNM 2 years ago
Terrible comments on your youtube channel? More terrible than your supporters stating that "pro aborts cowards are sub human bottomfeeding rabid beast that should all be shot."
A model of decency!
TheEnemyIsYou 2 years ago
the dirty pro aborts have threatened me a few times... they are cowards.
a few have threatened to kill me... i feed off their energy.
pro aborts are cowards therefore they only attack people that can't or refuse to fight back.
that's why that kill helpless babies in the womb that can't fight back or peaceful pro lifers that will not fight back.
pro aborts cowards are sub human bottomfeeding rabid beast that should all be shot.
HILLBILLYPOWER 2 years ago
So you're projecting the feelings you have on what you have identified as your opposition. What that means is you want pro-choice people dead. It's kind of like calling someone an asshole by saying that you're not calling them an asshole. Clever. The difference between you and me is that you think our government should be able to force a pregnant teenager to give birth and I don't think it should have that power.
granulorhoek 2 years ago
for every pro-choice er , there was a pro-life mother, who chose to give them life , jesus said it like this , those who love death , hate me , for i am life . keep standing prolifeguy/ its not any easy job. but i am glad your doing it , god bless you
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TheEnemyIsYou 2 years ago
Why would I need read the bible? It was written by a bunch of people with the current beliefs passed down thru time.
The8Incredible6Bulk 2 years ago
I've heard the stupid masterbation argument a million times...The Bible is a KJV..I love the olde english...Can you understand it as well?...I am against abortion after fertilization....Barring that you can wack yourself till the cows come home for all I care
theprolifeguy 2 years ago
Noticed you only showed the back of your bible... which version of the bible are you holding???
ever use a condom--- catholic church thinks using condoms is the same as abortion.
this is why our founding fathers didn't let any one religion dictate its laws on the rest.... its a slippery slope to theological tyranny where a masturbation will be prosecuted as genocide.
flymic81 2 years ago
i have an argument against you- if it is only up to God to kill people, than there could be No war, and No capital punishment.... Look, I understand your viewpoint, but will never agree with it- no matter what YOU personally believe, has no effect on what I or anyone else should do with our bodies- you see a fetus as a baby. i do not. and to let you know, pro choicers have already WON- we have a pro choice president, and women's rights and choices are protected still to this day. :-)
alexa4691 2 years ago
And segregation was allowed for 60 years and for most of our history women couldn't vote..but we fought for their rights and eventually won.
Technically speaking YOUR FORCING YOUR PERSONAL BELIEFS ONTO AN INNOCENT BABY WHEN YOU DECIDE IT ISN'T WORTH LIVING.
shademurtagh 2 years ago
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for me to agree with you, i would have to believe that a fetus is a baby, which i do not. also, if you were to fight for the right of a fetus... or your pro life ways- then once again women would have lost their rights.
alexa4691 2 years ago
Yeah and I've "lost" my rights to marry a 13 year old because that used to be legal or to own a slave.
Too bad, some rights infringe on others rights. Say, others rights to live.
shademurtagh 2 years ago 3
Well, I don't think a fetus's right should be put before an ACTUAL humans life (The mother)... I just find it baffling that you think you have the right to tell every single woman what is right for them in their life... what makes you so special that YOU know what is right and that YOU know what is wrong, and that WE should all just follow and believe you.
alexa4691 2 years ago
I don't think YOUR LIFE should be put over an ACTUAL life such as mine. I find it baffling for you to think that you can tell me what to do on my property. I found you trespassing, now I want you dead. Maybe it wasn't your fault your here one my property but I don't care.
shademurtagh 2 years ago 2
If your pro choice, children have lost their rights.
I find it baffling that YOU think you can kill unborn children who haven't done anything wrong and haven't been given the chance to refuse abortion.
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ladydragon7777 2 years ago
here is a poem for the pro choisers hopefully it will touch their hearts if they have them
ladydragon7777 2 years ago
I've seen many ignorant statements below about sperm dying and thats killings potential babies.Life begins at conception after the sperm and egg have produced with God grace a living, heart beating live baby reguardless of what week or term.If any procedure takes place willingly through mans intervention to destroy the fetus(CHILD/BABY) and take the childs life.Then it is and should be treated as, PREMEDITATED MURDER!! Thats Just The Cold Hard Facts!Like it or Not!
mykidsdad36 2 years ago
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Are you a woman? No you aren't. Are you God? No you aren't. Do you realize that there are pro-choicers that aren't religious at all. They don't believe in God. But that doesn't mean that their stance is wrong. I have an argument and it is a good one. Unlike you, I am not arrogant. I know what it feels like. You can't tell me I don't care about the babies. You will never know what it feels like. You will never "save all the babies of the world". This video was just a bunch of words.
dreamskillme 2 years ago
you're gay.
0scottweise18 2 years ago
You don't get it.
You say that no one has the right to choose who lives and who dies but God. The problem with that is, the government doesn't have that right, either. A pro-life America would be doing God's work for Him. No one, not even God, would have the choice, unless it's an illegal abortion. Flawed logic, flawed video, flawed channel.
VoiceHunter 2 years ago
God said: if someone has committed an atrocity like murder that the state should execute them. God made that decision. He did NOT however authorize the slaughter of innocent children on a whim.
dbhma7 2 years ago
read the bible- God DID authorize the MASS slaughter of MANY children, in many cases.... :-(
alexa4691 2 years ago
Key phrase: "on a WHIM." God may have decided that a nation of people should be destroyed, but He is the Creator of life and He has the right to take it away. It's not our right to choose to take innocent life, be it before or after birth.
The "pro choice" stand is an excuse to live a selfish life at any expense.
dbhma7 2 years ago
so are you anti capital punishment and against war? If so then I find that very good, because most pro lifers are for the death penalty.
alexa4691 2 years ago
Well you're going to be disappointed. Pro-lifers should be re-labeled: "Pro-Justice-ers" OR "Pro-Innocent-Lifers." We believe that someone who takes an innocent person's life has forfeited their right to life. They have made a CHOICE to harm an innocent person. The tiny unborn child has done nothing wrong. Their parents f***ed, and then they have their limbs and heads ripped off.
dbhma7 2 years ago
i am just saying, then your whole argument makes no sense- either ONLY God has the right to take lives, or people do too... you cannot have it both ways! And many abortions.. MOST abortions occur BEFORE the fetus has an developed features, like heads and arms....
alexa4691 2 years ago
so if a person isn't developed I can kill them?
I can kill you?
shademurtagh 2 years ago
Its funny because these people get so heated about abortion, but have no problem with other forms of murder. They would like to pretend that they are good and decent people, but the problem is that good and decent people don't advocate any killing period. They like to speak for god as well. Im no expert on the christian faith, but I think If god did exist, he wouldn't want people using his name to validify their opinions, I think its called blasphemy.
ARBNM 2 years ago
Well, you don't make the call.
The abortion issue is so debatable that the law says we must let the women decide if it's right or wrong and what makes a human and whatnot. Thus, the pro-life stance only means you're way too arrogant on your stance on what a human is and what God thinks that you wish to shove it down everyone's throat. It also means, because of the circumstances, that you're willing to pay for a pro-life America at the cost of the union. You're arrogant, and anti-American.
VoiceHunter 2 years ago
Oh and I suppose people activley campaigning for the right of the elderly to live on and not be killed by the government is anti American? USE YOUR HEAD.
(I don't believe in death panel bullshit I'm pro obama and prolife so don't think that was a reference).
shademurtagh 2 years ago
What? I said NOTHING about the elderly. Don't put words in my mouth.
VoiceHunter 2 years ago
Where did god say that? Isn't it called blasphemy when you use your own opinions in the name of god?
ARBNM 2 years ago