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  • hey lets not over analyze everyone's work by shrewdly comparing them to others...lets not become the stereotypical art snobs...yes?,Good video, work is nice, not my personal favorite, but nice.

  • I do not think this artist has a very good grasp of drawing-shapes are murky and confused-and the stylised eyes and noses are grating and schlocky.Finch wrote that Marlene Dumas' work was lazy-this work definitely is.I know people adore this girl,but that is not a reason to love her painting!

  • This work is derivitive of John Currin, without the chops of being able to paint like Cranach. But the attitude is middle class hipster values all the way-like, arent my deformities amusing? Or the way I trivialize myself? Never giving anything up of course--privilege, comfort, position. Just act all eccentric and shit. Doesnt fly for me.

    Rita Ackerman and Egon Schiele I like.

  • Who knew that Mr Thwung was so posessive of permutations. UTubis using all my names so...anyway my hole dont close so moot point.

  • great show. i loved it. very ernest and girly. i think it is post-feminist to not want to think about belonging to a "girl art" movement. her paintings strike me as being very personal.

  • I mean kern, stylisticly - like bendix harms, Ellen Berkenblit - the basic stoke without much fussiness.

    Then you got your Rita Ackerman.

    THese may be superficial comparisons, but they are just as close to the mark as James Kalm's - we arent really talking style but "the gist" - the feeling. I do get a bit of womens magazine out of it - but thats because of the domesticity - maybe I dont read enough women's magazines - I;ll check my moms out in a couple of weeks and get back to you.

  • Come to SVA painting open studios

    21st st between 6th and 7th aves

    dec 11

    4th and 6th floors

    5-9pm

  • HERE'S JOHNNY! Straighten that hair and she could BE Shelley Duvall.

    Work is not of interest. Too derivative and she nails the worst-of-both-worlds in terms of Hipster and Fashion.

    JK your assault is highly disconcerting. I love Barnaby saying I cant believe I spoke on that thing.

  • shut your hole.

  • i mean as a comment on zipthwang.

    you think it's derivative? How?

    I think its less fashion and more related to socialite diletantism -and the whole slacker dealio affected by such artists as the current show at canada and many artists at Andrew Kreps - though its a bit earnest for that - not enoguh pot involved I think. Like dude from Koenig when he was on centre street - I think the whole area is infected with east village disease.

  • you have some interesting comments. they are a little disconcerning. i am sure a lot is missed in the translation of leaving short blubs we leave out here in utubia.

    u should post a video response to this video and the artist featured.

  • yes, but i'm speaking from my camp.

    DO people call man-art dude-lit? I think so. But "chick" is not equal to "dude" in the calculus of connotation)

    The upshot being this work is aggressively feminine, though it leans towards kitsch, which, in Omaha, would tilt it down to the level of a sort of Miro, who is French, so he has an excuse (I abhor the treacly sentimentality of Miro).

    Maureen is far to nice to be thrown from the Englewood cliffs like some uppity Helot.

    Not everyone's cup of tea.

  • The chick part is good - though I'm more into tribal warfare, Zulu shield abstraction, powerfull images for warlike times.

    Alice Neel doesn't do much for me, for example - "too self conscious" as a professor once pretentiously said to me (himself as self conscious as they come).

    The autumnal palette is not exactly pleasing.

  • Zip,

    No tribal warfare is implied, just a recognition of a zeitgeist or shared response among a group of like minded artists. They've got "Chick Lit" and "Girl Groups", "Chick Art" is part of the same mood, (Post Feminism with attitude)and an increasing recognition of the economic power of this demographic group and its ability to affect the general culture.

    JK

  • Thank you James Kalm.

  • Along with the influences mentioned by others I sense the presence of Francesco Clemente and Alice Neil.

  • Woops..now that I watched the whole video, I see that I am not the only one talking of those influences...

  • The profile painting is interesting but I'm not sure if I'm really into this. Got a little turned off when she said, "I don't really think a lot about it." I respect her for doing it though.

  • Unfortunately, as with a lot of these programs, I cant put in everything Id like to. Good stuff ends up on the cutting room floor. Regarding influences, in the hundreds of interviews Ive done its rare to find someone who will openly admit to being influenced, especially young artists (except by maybe Warhol).

  • I could understand being a young artist and not wanting to be labeled early in your career. It makes sense. I'm used to talking to people who socratically bombard you with the "where does all this come from?" type questions. I respect the fact that she does the work and has had success. Thanks James!

  • Of course she's had influences, it's silly for her to say she doesn't think about it. She and every artist worth their salt thinks about it. Just admit it, it's not like it would ruin a career suddenly. Alice Neil mostly from what I see. Not fond of her palette, muddy and depressing, but the snapshot-esque approach is kicky.

  • True as well. I totally agree that one should know and understand the context in which they make art. It might not ruin her career, but I could understand if someone doesn't want to be grouped / labeled. On the flip side, it may help her to have an association with a particular group of artists. I'll have to look up her statement. Cheers!

  • That profile portrait reminda me of John Currin, more than Schiele...

  • I was thinking the same thing when I saw it.

  • Interesting artist. Correct me if I am wrong, but I see a strong influence of Elizabeth Peyton, Karen Kilimnik and Marlene Dumas in her work.

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