truely inspirational, thanks for posting! ive just had a few hours of gold leafing and its not easy but getting better. cant wait to let loose on my bike!
what is that home made red brush thing there and when is the video out thanks man very sweet work man it gives people something to always work towards.
Hi, this is an excellent piece of work. I've tried this myself and it's really a great stuff if done properly. Thank You, as this is one of those things that have inspired me. Keep up Your great work guys!
Hey, couple of questions my friend. What is the red sponge/brush that you used for texturing the gold leaf made of? What is the masking paper called specifically so i can find it? and finally, what if the adhesive that you used to adhere the gold leaf and would it be ok to put on wood?
how does one become a pin-striper for a profession, is it just one of those practice in your back yard first things or can you do an apprenticeship. looks like very rewarding work.
how do you go about pricing a project like this one? I ask because I am interested in getting into this field, I do sign painting now, looking for something new to get my hands into.
What kind if adhesive are you using. How do i protect it if i am leafing on a matte paint job, to keep the gold shiny, but not affect the matte paint. Thanks and AWESOME work!
Hey guys! Thanks for all your questions and comments and we have decided to take it a step further when it comes to answers. We are currently in the process of producing a FULL step by step How-To video on Gold Leafing. I am going to tell it all and leave nothing out! So let us know if you are interested!
@reedbrospainting HELL would i be? Better get in on fast, or I WILL lose it. Thanks already brother. I want to learn this cause im customizing a guitar. Got only one question ( tell me if not making it all clear in the video):
When you are finished, dont you need to coat it/seal it off with someting. Cause i would spray some transparant paint to finish the guitar off, but would it harm/wrinkle... the gold? Cheers and greetz from Holland
@reedbrospainting Any update on making a video? I've taken a class from Gary Gensen and Gene Maynor but it's been years and I really want to give it a shot again. I do alot of pinstriping and have a ton of people asking for leafing. Thanks, Mark
@reedbrospainting @reedbrospainting Any update on making a video? I've taken a class from Gary Gensen and Gene Maynor but it's been years and I really want to give it a shot again. I do alot of pinstriping and have a ton of people asking for leafing. Thanks, Mark
whats that liquid thing called that u first put on so the gold leaf can be applied and whats that red thing used to make the twist called n where can i buy them
My god...that is an amazing piece of art. I think I would cry if I ever saw a dent or a scratch on that. I hope whoever was paying for it really appreciates that kind of beauty. o_O Bet your back was sore after all that hunching over.
@inger132 I use the same kind of masking paper that sign and vinyl shops use. If you go into a shop that does stickers and vinyl lettering they will sell it to you. I love it because it is low tack, you can draw on it, it is easy to cut out designs and it leaves no residue. Good luck and have a great day!
@reedbrospainting its called transfer tape.....airbrushing artist call it frisqet...frisket...idk how to spell it (fris....ket) idk its clled allota different things....maskin paper, stenciling vinyl..some ppl use pro grade vynal and the list goes on......check a couple out....those vinyl shops might be rippin ya off
hey! fresh work! looks super clean and beautiful! question: that thing you used for the swirls.. is that a gilding tool, or is that something you made? i love the effect, but i can't pull it off that clean!
NOW THATS GOLD LEAF 24K gold RAR!! Dont even bother watching the 2 chicks trying to do gold leaf guilding they have no clue.. Nice Swirls!!!! on that tank me and my old man do Boats gonna link a vid
Thats pretty swank man, Been fooling around with gold leaf for a little while, mostly just self taught trial and error, thanks for putting this vid out there, very helpful....
Nice work. I am a painter as well and am looking to try my first leaf job. Did you use highsolid urithane clear and how did you apply it on your first coats. Anything special so you dont mess with the flake job? Any help would be great. Again nice work on this tank, a true work of art!
I usually get my supplies from w.w.w.g.o.l.d.l.e.a.f.c.o.m.a.u (remove the extra .'s") I tend to buy when the Australian dollar is low (0.80c and lower) which makes it really cheap to buy.
i used a cotton ball because it is soft. use something hard and it will scratch your gold leaf. the squashy thing is a spinner. see the comment above you for more! thanks for the comment.
Don't do like Alton Gillespie and eat that gold leaf. I saw him eat a whole 3 x 3 leaf at a sign meet that fell of his brush. He sucked it down before it hit the floor.
I know this music sucks...however I can not figure out how I can keep my music on without YouTube ripping it off. You can go to my website for the original music.
Not really, real gold leaf is expensive but it is more trouble than its worth to try to save the dusted leaf. It is so thin that if you breath on it it blows away so it is almost imposible to save.
damn nice man great work on the leafing and great color combo this coming from an up and coming custom painter any advice or new things i should maybe try and do?
Thanks for the compliment man. If you have any questions or need some tips along the way you can reach me at 928-925-0685. I will do my best to help you any way I can.
well thanks man thats really cool of u and do u have an email address? maybe we can talk that way and i can send u some pics of some things i have done and maybe u can recommend some tips or some new things i should try and do
I am striping flasks for christmas presents! They will be freehanded! No tape, stencils, tracing or stickers...each will be unique and one of a kind! Only $89 for US orders and $99 for International orders...no shipping. Choose either flat black or stainless steel. Go to my website and fill out the contact us form to start with your order placement. Thanks! Tom
wow...very beautiful and excellent control? is it wrong of me to want to see some white pearl paint on that tank too though? haha, just saying it would go awesome with the blue n gold. please message me with some tips on the leafing process /jeweling the gold [especially what's needed]... i think it would help me expand my art.
Imitation gold leaf is fairly reasonable ($8-10/pack of 25 sheets). I use REAL 23 Karat Gold Leaf which costs me about $50/pack of 25 sheets. It can get expensive especially considering that the sheets are very fragile and they are small sheets. With this bike I wanted to use new - full sheets as much as possible so my cost was climbing.
I used whats called size (glue) and then when your window opens you lay down your leaf. After you have it completely covering your surface you VERY lightly remove the excess with a cotton ball. If you try the gold leaf...make sure that you do a test panel first. Your window to manipulate the gold leaf will change with the weather...heat, cold, humidity. In fact my window on this project changed after I got started. My test panel gave me 25 min. and into I had 15. Thanks for your post!
great looking work ! really enjoyed watching ,thanks !
MrGseeds 1 week ago
absolutely amazing this is not done so much anymore more computerised, but a very good effect.
Brighteyes1ful 1 month ago
That's AMAZING! Such a steady hand.
Gemgo321 2 months ago
What kind of adhesive do you use to attach the gold leaf to?
Natalyaandall 3 months ago
Hi Man, Where do you get that neat red scroll tool??
Fantastic work!!!
Thanks Steve
2194steve 3 months ago
that is perfect in every way possible dude... cheers!! love the color selection as well!!
wolfizwatchin 4 months ago
OOOOOOH MYYYY. I give....I want one. You are very talented man. Keep that up, the world is a prettier place with you in it.
Unrelenting1 4 months ago
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Great job! Is the striping paint U-24 Rich Gold by House Of Kolor?
kaimano62 5 months ago
truely inspirational, thanks for posting! ive just had a few hours of gold leafing and its not easy but getting better. cant wait to let loose on my bike!
mission100uk 5 months ago
what is that home made red brush thing there and when is the video out thanks man very sweet work man it gives people something to always work towards.
chamoco1 5 months ago
thats wicked sick! nice job man.
The88katana600 6 months ago
Hi, this is an excellent piece of work. I've tried this myself and it's really a great stuff if done properly. Thank You, as this is one of those things that have inspired me. Keep up Your great work guys!
zwierzok 6 months ago
very very nice sharing, thank you.
wenling0925 6 months ago
badass
can anyone tell me the artist/title of this song please? thanks
ktinakonstas 6 months ago
@ktinakonstas This must be the master himself - John Lee Hooker:)
zwierzok 6 months ago
Wow! Amazing!
mckaymental 7 months ago
Hey, couple of questions my friend. What is the red sponge/brush that you used for texturing the gold leaf made of? What is the masking paper called specifically so i can find it? and finally, what if the adhesive that you used to adhere the gold leaf and would it be ok to put on wood?
XxMAXYPADxX 7 months ago
PATIENCE MAKE NICE WORK GREAT EXAMPLE
SCUBONZIES 8 months ago
GREAT JOB..
oliver915 10 months ago
HEY GUY WHAT IS THAT BUFFING RED BRUSH CALLED OR DID YOU MAKE THAT YOUR SELF. GREAT JOB..
oliver915 10 months ago
HI! how long you wait before swirling the gold leaf?
rendimiento100 11 months ago
how does one become a pin-striper for a profession, is it just one of those practice in your back yard first things or can you do an apprenticeship. looks like very rewarding work.
eddiewarlord 11 months ago
where's the gas cap? ha ha
gojimmygo1229 11 months ago
When's the video going to be on sale??. Cool Work
antzman1969 11 months ago
Beautiful. Love the effect on the gold, very clever.
pigmental23 11 months ago
Beautiful!
kittensaustin 1 year ago
Absolutely stunning work!
cdickenson64 1 year ago
How is the How to video coming along ? Fantastic job lets see another clip please.
brendajoe 1 year ago
Wow that guy has the hands of a surgen .... Amazing
satinspringsarabians 1 year ago
is he doing the swirl marks with micro fiber
grafftodatrack 1 year ago
sick
63Banshee 1 year ago
The 26-35, I assume thats is minutes?
colourfulchaosair 1 year ago
how do you go about pricing a project like this one? I ask because I am interested in getting into this field, I do sign painting now, looking for something new to get my hands into.
Phenomenal work by the way.
BasuPahn 1 year ago
What kind if adhesive are you using. How do i protect it if i am leafing on a matte paint job, to keep the gold shiny, but not affect the matte paint. Thanks and AWESOME work!
flatblack56 1 year ago
that would be cool
rttguy1969 1 year ago
beautiful
redazi1 1 year ago
Hang it on the wall. Nice!
MotoCasa 1 year ago
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do you have the how-to-do video on the market yet let me know, burnouttiresdiscount@gmail.com
gixxertuto 1 year ago
you are a beast
blacpuppet 1 year ago
Thats not a gas tank. Thats art.
FastFilmsInc1 1 year ago
WOW LOVE IT!!!!!!
marvinf14 1 year ago
Hey guys! Thanks for all your questions and comments and we have decided to take it a step further when it comes to answers. We are currently in the process of producing a FULL step by step How-To video on Gold Leafing. I am going to tell it all and leave nothing out! So let us know if you are interested!
reedbrospainting 1 year ago 11
@reedbrospainting yes very interested in a video like that thanks
cruzere120 1 year ago
@reedbrospainting This is incredible work and i would totally be interested in purchasing tutorial video!
romanemp27 1 year ago
@reedbrospainting This is incredible work and i would totally be interested in purchasing tutorial video!
romanemp27 1 year ago
@reedbrospainting
That was amazing, i was holding my breath on those long lines haha.
Id love to see a full tutorial! Thanks!!
reskillmows 1 year ago
@reedbrospainting HELL would i be? Better get in on fast, or I WILL lose it. Thanks already brother. I want to learn this cause im customizing a guitar. Got only one question ( tell me if not making it all clear in the video):
When you are finished, dont you need to coat it/seal it off with someting. Cause i would spray some transparant paint to finish the guitar off, but would it harm/wrinkle... the gold? Cheers and greetz from Holland
Bruce
coffinstoner 1 year ago
@reedbrospainting yes, interested.
TypeGdizzle 1 year ago
@reedbrospainting , very good job, nice and clean.
what's the name of the glue you use, or what glue could you use for the gold leaf? thanks , again very good job.
2012soon2012 1 year ago
@reedbrospainting YES!!!! For those of us poor souls that can't afford amazing pro work like yours!
sleepruitt 10 months ago
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@reedbrospainting Any update on making a video? I've taken a class from Gary Gensen and Gene Maynor but it's been years and I really want to give it a shot again. I do alot of pinstriping and have a ton of people asking for leafing. Thanks, Mark
markvondestiny@gmail.com
markvondestiny 10 months ago
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@reedbrospainting @reedbrospainting Any update on making a video? I've taken a class from Gary Gensen and Gene Maynor but it's been years and I really want to give it a shot again. I do alot of pinstriping and have a ton of people asking for leafing. Thanks, Mark
markvondestiny@gmail.com
markvondestiny 10 months ago
THATS JUST SICK NICE JOB !
kilodiamond 1 year ago
Gol dang!!
1339LARS 1 year ago
Gol dang!!
1339LARS 1 year ago
whats that liquid thing called that u first put on so the gold leaf can be applied and whats that red thing used to make the twist called n where can i buy them
josueguzman602 1 year ago
@josueguzman602 kustom shop.com liquid is one shot and the other is a mallet
Chevrolet490 1 year ago
@Chevrolet490 koo thx uma order some n practice on a bike frame
josueguzman602 1 year ago
wow your concentration and control is amazing!
lese91 1 year ago
Nice, I always wondered how pinstriping was done. I have a bike with purple flames, not so stylized as this beautiful bike.
newgirl2u2 1 year ago
SICKSICKSICK work great job im inspired
TheCadillac99 1 year ago
My god...that is an amazing piece of art. I think I would cry if I ever saw a dent or a scratch on that. I hope whoever was paying for it really appreciates that kind of beauty. o_O Bet your back was sore after all that hunching over.
Shifang 1 year ago
wow that is gorgeous! What a steady hand, like a surgeron :) lucky person who has that now!
votejamie08 1 year ago
true artistry - absolutely magnificent
Doodlinlounge 1 year ago
I have great admiration for your hands skills,
God bless
and keep creating my brother,
Very well done
I stand is respect!
awesomejohnnet 1 year ago
amazing
HaloKing3536 1 year ago
Is that just plain masking tape being used in the beginning?
inger132 1 year ago
@inger132 I use the same kind of masking paper that sign and vinyl shops use. If you go into a shop that does stickers and vinyl lettering they will sell it to you. I love it because it is low tack, you can draw on it, it is easy to cut out designs and it leaves no residue. Good luck and have a great day!
reedbrospainting 1 year ago
@reedbrospainting its called transfer tape.....airbrushing artist call it frisqet...frisket...idk how to spell it (fris....ket) idk its clled allota different things....maskin paper, stenciling vinyl..some ppl use pro grade vynal and the list goes on......check a couple out....those vinyl shops might be rippin ya off
SHOCKstarMIKE 1 year ago
just dustin that gold off like its nothing lol
justcuzyeah 1 year ago
What kind of plastic wrap is that in the beginning?.its bugging me.
inger132 1 year ago
man are ya gonna let anyone know what the red thing is or what geeze loadsa people askin but you aint replied to em is it top secret lol
MrVerynaughtyboy 1 year ago
Hi
how you do the spin effect? I'm trying to do something like that but...
rendimiento100 1 year ago
magnificant
imaqtlolz 1 year ago
bravo!
hobbyshopfargo 1 year ago
Great job! Pinstriping is demanding as hell but that was epic!
What is that red thing you are using to make spin patterns?
jonnebanan 1 year ago
thats is fucking amazing b ro 5/5 man
valickknight 1 year ago
GRRREAT job man ! greez from austria
obsncomcustomz 1 year ago
NICE!!!
machinedcreations 2 years ago
what do you use to apply the golden sheet on the tank? Some kind of glue?
cristianocollarin 2 years ago
Golden tank and golden hands... Tottaly awesome!
gswiaczny 2 years ago
woooooow..... thats amazing! skilled out! 5/5!
ThaUltimateDragon 2 years ago 2
It's not right that they only allow five star rating max sometimes! Absolutely beautiful work!
Brewtal12 2 years ago 7
Very cool comment man. I appreciate it very much.
reedbrospainting 2 years ago
dam thats sick.... slow and stedy wins the race
era562 2 years ago
complimenti compà 5 stelle
eva980541 2 years ago
Fab
brownviper1966 2 years ago
art man
mirtioo 2 years ago
sweet man! but were is it for?
TerrorQwillie 2 years ago
hey! fresh work! looks super clean and beautiful! question: that thing you used for the swirls.. is that a gilding tool, or is that something you made? i love the effect, but i can't pull it off that clean!
squidink85 2 years ago
NOW THATS GOLD LEAF 24K gold RAR!! Dont even bother watching the 2 chicks trying to do gold leaf guilding they have no clue.. Nice Swirls!!!! on that tank me and my old man do Boats gonna link a vid
tuthmes 2 years ago
He must have used HOK striping paint
KRAYONKING 2 years ago
Thats pretty swank man, Been fooling around with gold leaf for a little while, mostly just self taught trial and error, thanks for putting this vid out there, very helpful....
tat2dano 2 years ago
Damn nice work
Jispa 2 years ago
SICK!!!!
GKevLam 2 years ago
That is WICKED!!
Hey can you use a light, tacky layer of clear coat as your sizing glue?
wreakerofhavoc 2 years ago
@wreakerofhavoc house of color makes a clear coat you can use as size. you can get it at coast airbrush. i still prefer 1shot size though.
rokeeter 2 years ago
Nice work. I am a painter as well and am looking to try my first leaf job. Did you use highsolid urithane clear and how did you apply it on your first coats. Anything special so you dont mess with the flake job? Any help would be great. Again nice work on this tank, a true work of art!
hemieata 2 years ago
super brilliant!
Got some gold in india a couple of years ago. Now I am very inspired to do something with it.
Cheers,
crayonfou 2 years ago 2
AWESOME JOB!!! but I do have to say, it looked pretty cool before the gold leaf, it almost looked like glass
But as always awesome job!
ShadowSlayer103 2 years ago
That part did look pretty sic huh?
reedbrospainting 2 years ago
Great video!
I usually get my supplies from w.w.w.g.o.l.d.l.e.a.f.c.o.m.a.u (remove the extra .'s") I tend to buy when the Australian dollar is low (0.80c and lower) which makes it really cheap to buy.
b1llyb0y 2 years ago
dis abig help for starters thanx homie
jose213ss 2 years ago
First class job Man!!! 5*
pongtubepete 2 years ago
what material and tool did you use to do the swirls in the leaf
DRAGONDEMON69 2 years ago
what did u use to rub offf the excess gold leaf? and also what is the red squashy thing you use to get that twisted effect?
dolphtrains2 2 years ago
i used a cotton ball because it is soft. use something hard and it will scratch your gold leaf. the squashy thing is a spinner. see the comment above you for more! thanks for the comment.
reedbrospainting 2 years ago
nice work. did you make that spinner or what is it and where can i buy one?
2tires 2 years ago
Don't do like Alton Gillespie and eat that gold leaf. I saw him eat a whole 3 x 3 leaf at a sign meet that fell of his brush. He sucked it down before it hit the floor.
skjoyner 2 years ago
LOL! Ya well most of stripers aren't that sharp!
reedbrospainting 2 years ago
whats the las layer that you put on it is it to make it all shine what is it called?
iGuey83one 2 years ago
clear coat
reedbrospainting 2 years ago 2
Sweet. Nice job!
markbrachmann 2 years ago
With gold leaf like that, instead of texturing it, does it apply smooth enough to keep it solid and have it look good?
Amazing btw. those are the exact colors i want on a bike-- i just hope it looks as good at the end!
zily88 2 years ago
most beautiful thing i have ever seen done to a bike!
TheRedJew 2 years ago
Hey question for you.
What type of masking paper are you using???
Blitzkrieg3700 2 years ago
That's beautiful...
Nice one.
Love.
TopBananaCustomPaint 2 years ago
Crap music.
incredibly nice pinstriping and leafing!
I want to know, however, what was the thing that you twisted ontop of the gold?
ElbronBs 2 years ago 2
I know this music sucks...however I can not figure out how I can keep my music on without YouTube ripping it off. You can go to my website for the original music.
reedbrospainting 2 years ago
hey. what where you using to twist on the gold leaf? and where can i get my hands on some gold leaf?
Projectmusicmen 2 years ago
you can make one yourself with a bolt , cotton , and some velvet
unholybeaner 2 years ago
right on
Projectmusicmen 2 years ago
Not really, real gold leaf is expensive but it is more trouble than its worth to try to save the dusted leaf. It is so thin that if you breath on it it blows away so it is almost imposible to save.
Take it easy!
reedbrospainting 2 years ago
is all that gold leaf you dusted off of any value? or is it just garbage?
iplehguitar 2 years ago
Ugh I'd be so horrible at pinstriping. lol I have the most unsteady hand on earth.
TakeLife2TheExtreme 3 years ago
damn nice man great work on the leafing and great color combo this coming from an up and coming custom painter any advice or new things i should maybe try and do?
toddl5 3 years ago
Thanks for the compliment man. If you have any questions or need some tips along the way you can reach me at 928-925-0685. I will do my best to help you any way I can.
reedbrospainting 3 years ago
well thanks man thats really cool of u and do u have an email address? maybe we can talk that way and i can send u some pics of some things i have done and maybe u can recommend some tips or some new things i should try and do
toddl5 3 years ago
I am striping flasks for christmas presents! They will be freehanded! No tape, stencils, tracing or stickers...each will be unique and one of a kind! Only $89 for US orders and $99 for International orders...no shipping. Choose either flat black or stainless steel. Go to my website and fill out the contact us form to start with your order placement. Thanks! Tom
reedbrospainting 3 years ago
wow...very beautiful and excellent control? is it wrong of me to want to see some white pearl paint on that tank too though? haha, just saying it would go awesome with the blue n gold. please message me with some tips on the leafing process /jeweling the gold [especially what's needed]... i think it would help me expand my art.
Kyu1LL 3 years ago
OK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bartek506645026 3 years ago
if i only had the patients
heyheygirl997 3 years ago
WOW! What an awesome design. Im just starting in the leafing and striping and hope to be half as talented as you! God bless.
lilbobby30 3 years ago
man, so incredible! nice work!
Narlynarz 3 years ago
Thanks, I think gold leaf is the best technique to make something original.
reedbrospainting 3 years ago
absolutely dope! This is coming from an artist.
CandyAcidReign 3 years ago
Thank you so much I really appreciate the compliment.
reedbrospainting 3 years ago
is there a brand name for the sticky stencil paper?
what do you use as size? and whats that funky burnishing/cleaning up red pad tool thing?
mad skills on the pinstriping, I envy you as only a person with major hand shakes can
xxtiaan 3 years ago
holy shit now thats wot u call a skill
keithflying1 3 years ago
Thanks Keith! I dig doing the leaf work. I just wish more people wanted metal flake and gold leaf, I love doing the old school stuff.
reedbrospainting 3 years ago
very very very great work, man..you rock!
zioalzen 3 years ago
Thanks man! Getiing compliments like that make all the hard work worth it!
reedbrospainting 3 years ago
Impressive symmetry and finish - What is the background music?
jpl2010 3 years ago
Black Eyed Peas with Jack Johnson!
reedbrospainting 3 years ago
Nice man thanx for uploading this stuff realy learned alot:D
P.S love that blue!
soddar 3 years ago
marvelous dude! what type of blue is that?
dzach2 3 years ago
I used a metallic silver base and then used HOK Cobalt Blue Kandy Intensifier.
reedbrospainting 3 years ago
Too good man, Great Job
Salt7kum 3 years ago
Thanks! I appreciate you taking the time to say so.
reedbrospainting 3 years ago
Imitation gold leaf is fairly reasonable ($8-10/pack of 25 sheets). I use REAL 23 Karat Gold Leaf which costs me about $50/pack of 25 sheets. It can get expensive especially considering that the sheets are very fragile and they are small sheets. With this bike I wanted to use new - full sheets as much as possible so my cost was climbing.
reedbrospainting 3 years ago
Is Goldleaf Cheap to do??
alistairdunne 3 years ago
Michael's sell really cool Varigeited REd/BLUE/GREEN gold leaf. Affordable too, 6.45 for a 6 pack...thats what I used to learn with.....
KRAYONKING 2 years ago
IF you wanna see some SICK PINSTRIPING.... search for EDDIE TORRES 2 curly Q style with a MACK 000
KRAYONKING 2 years ago
great stuff, so you like glue the gold leafs on the metal and whipe away gold that is not glued ?
mcnag 3 years ago
I used whats called size (glue) and then when your window opens you lay down your leaf. After you have it completely covering your surface you VERY lightly remove the excess with a cotton ball. If you try the gold leaf...make sure that you do a test panel first. Your window to manipulate the gold leaf will change with the weather...heat, cold, humidity. In fact my window on this project changed after I got started. My test panel gave me 25 min. and into I had 15. Thanks for your post!
reedbrospainting 3 years ago
Nice lef' !!!!
guitargodforever 3 years ago
ho much would that cost on a dodge intrepid.
3dmontana 3 years ago
Absolutely stunning work... thanks for sharing...
orangie1 3 years ago
fantastic work, many compliments!!!
MauDesign78 3 years ago
Awsome video! More people have got to see this!!
aggichina 3 years ago