Honestly, of all the dumbest things to make an issue out of. the fucking country has 80% unemployment a dead currency and people still care if someone throws their junk in the same can?...
I come from Bulawayo and I am so proud to see such open mindedness and progressive thinking. Nobody was asked to be gay, they simple donated bins for collecting rubbish..... its just that
Nice to see that mayor and MP are a good counterpoint to the madness of the murderer Mugabe.
Thank you Catholic Church for encouraging this kind of intolerance in Africa...you must be so proud. Almost as proud a the slack jawed Evenagelicals doing far worse in Uganda.
@yerk3 only european countries embrace men fucking men, it obvious a propaganda stunt to make king mugabe seem evil but all his actions is rightous in my eye and in my God eyes
@83leaf Maybe you and your ilk should leave "God" to deal with those he finds abominable in his (or her) own way. Or at least be honest and accept you're just using "God" to excuse your own ignorant bigotry. And perhaps the irony of bigotry practiced by people who were not all that long ago on the receiving end of such hate may be lost on you, but it isn't on others.
@ralph17p name a non european country that's not under the control of europe who promotes homosexuality? look at history, the ancient africans never embrace that nasty shit. then research the roman and greek empires, you will clearly see that nasty shit was a normal practice. its y'all culture that's morally corrupting the hearts of man. come back with historical facts from non bias sources....
We don't "promote" homosexuality. There are no billboards saying "Become Gay! It's awesome!" But we have grown up a bit and realised it's nobody else's business who someone chooses to love, and what they do when they're naked. And morality is more complicated and less rigid than some bronze-age goat herders would have us believe.
@ralph17p you never answer my questions, yet you come back with insults. Ima take it as tho ur point is to protect white supremacy in a homosexual kinda way. ur people and culture are like a virus, the non european world sees this, its the people inside the beast that's sleep
@83leaf I didn't answer your question because it's irrelevant. Who cares if ancient Africans were homophobic and ancient greeks weren't? What would that prove? Nothing - it's a bullshit argument even if you could prove it.
And seriously; how is standing up for the rights of a few gay africans "protecting white supremacy"? While you seem to be standing up for the questionable morality of a God who thinks slavery is quite alright.
@ralph17p Not only that, but a God from a religion imported by the very white devils he denounces. If anything is white supremacy, it is standing on the neck of gay Africans in the name of a white man's religion!
@yerk3 christianity is originally africa, adopted by the evil Constantine of europe in the earilier AD... i ask you to do a quick google research on homosexuality in ancient europe, but i see you didn't do it. go to google type in homosexuality in greece or rome and thousands of links comes up including images. and stop hitting me up
@83leaf Jesus is from Israel, not from Zimbabwe, but his message is claimed to be universal. Christianisme is very successful in Africa, where it was brought by the European Colons and either replaced local religion/belief or didn't. The presence of Christianity in Africa, South America and parts of Asia is the result of the British, French and Spanish Empires, and came along with slavery and resource plundering.
@83leaf Christianity is not from Africa. It is from the Roman province of Judea, which is in the Levant, which is technically on the Westernmost edge of Asia, thought it became popular among the Romans.
@yerk3 if you want real truth demon, you start researching the african concept of a child savior which predates the birth of God ”jesus” by 1000 of years. meaning it was and still is african tradition stolen by urs people as far as credict... but all thats changing
@83leaf LOL, you calling me "demon" is just the icing on the cake. You're not doing yourself any favors. The Christian mythos had nothing to do with the African concept of "child savior." Jesus wasn't a "child savior" anyway, he was over 30 when he was supposed to have performed all of his miracles and died for the sins of humanity.
@83leaf So in other words, you can't back up any of your baseless assertions, and have resorted to accusing me of being a mythological metaphysical entity in order to stall the argument. Like a boss.
@83leaf Christianity originates from a particular Jewish sect in the first century A.D, not some unspecified time and place in Africa. This is from the historical record. When the Catholic and Protestant missionaries were converting Southern Africans to their versions of Christianity, they were teaching a specifically Europeanized version of Christianity, not some vague concept of "child saviors."
@83leaf Christianity didn't appear in Africa until after Constantine introduced it to the Byzantine provinces in North Africa, and even then, it was Byzantine Othodox Christianity, not the Catholic and Protestant Christianity that has been imposed on much of Africa. Those were introduced in the 19th century. Unless Robert Mugabe is a member of the Coptic or Ethiopian Orthodox Church, he is enforcing the rules of a colonialist religion.
@83leaf Mister history doctor, The USA is not under the control of Europe. If anything, the USA has a high levy on European States. Homosexuality has been legal in the mainland PRC (China) since 1997. China is highly independant from European Culture. It's really only Muslim Countries and some African Countries where it is illegal.
@ralph17p its a cultural practice thats exploited in rock paintings and european art repeatedly though out european history. ex. Alexander the Greek... homosexuality and ur people also got a history of having sex with animals. dating back thousands of years. Its a nasty practice that's anti life/ counter productive. ”....And morality is more complicated and less rigid than some bronze-age goat herders would have us believe....” that tells me what system you really stand for...
@83leaf It's a biological phenomenon that has existed in all races and all continents as long as humanity has existed. Where are these "rock paintings" depicting homosexuality? Can you give some examples of homosexuality in European art outside of the modern era and a short period in ancient Greece?
@83leaf Even the men of the Aristocratic class in ancient Greece who had openly gay relationships were not 100% gay, they were more like bisexual, they were still expected to have wives and children, and even then, it was only accepted among the Aristocratic caste, not among the peasantry or merchant classes, and it was constrained by rules that didn't apply to heterosexual relationships.
@83leaf Relationships between men in ancient Greece were supposed to be based not on the physical, but on mental and emotional compatibility. If a man just wanted sex, went the reasoning of the day, he had his wife, but if he really wanted to bond with someone on an emotional level, he had to find another man, because the Greeks believed that women were of a lesser intelligence and secretly evil.
@83leaf Where do you get the glorious ridiculousness about white people having a "history," dating back "thousands of years" of having sex with animals? Whites are no more inclined to bestiality than any other group. In fact, I recently read an article about a man who was arrested for breaking into a pig farm and raping female pigs. The dude in question was black. Gay sex is no "nastier" than most heterosexual sex. You still have to take a shower after doing both of them.
@83leaf How is it "anti-life?" Because it isn't for the direct purpose of making babies? Do straight couples using condoms fall under the same condemnation? How about couples who are infertile for medical reasons? If they have sex, knowing that it won't result in pregnancy, is that "anti-life?"
@83leaf How is it beneficial in this day and age for couples to have as many children as they can anyhow? The world is over-populated, our species is in danger not from under-breeding, but from there being too many of us for the planet to continue to support us. At some point, our need for food will outstrip the planet's ability to supply it, even with large-scale industrial farming that exhausts the land. Resources are finite.
@83leaf And this is without even mentioning the ultimate irony of your position: you accuse homosexuality of being a foreign evil imported from the West, on the basis of foreign religion imported from the West! Colonialism indeed! Were was the talk of the evil, decadent, sick, perverted white devils when you were eagerly swallowing up their poisonous religion?
@83leaf In some In Zimbabwe, in Shona tribes, there is a belief that a man having sex with another man, particularly a younger one, can bring good fortune to the senior partner, it's very similar the Greek Practise.
@83leaf please check this map about gay rights, and you will see that not only european countries embrace men fucking men. It's quite the opposit, homosexuality is legal in most countries. It is illegal only in Muslim Countries and some African Countries. Your god eyes need glasses.
@83leaf Your insults are the witness that you have lost the argument. Look for "gay rights" on wikipedia and you'll see homosexuality is legal in most countries around the world, except some African countries and most Muslim Countries. Homosexuality is legal in China, India, Russia, Europe, the Americas... Being insulted by a homophobic is real kind of compliment :)
@83leaf It's funny when you say you're going to block someone on a public comment section, like they won't be able to reply to your comments. It's the kind of hollow bluster that really makes a person look ridiculous.
@yerk3 my comment has been stated, and to make my comment a little clearer, i said (non european countries thats not controlled by the white man), ex. such as the rebellious african countries.
Tati aahhhh kwete!!!!
lois753 1 week ago
Honestly, of all the dumbest things to make an issue out of. the fucking country has 80% unemployment a dead currency and people still care if someone throws their junk in the same can?...
WarrivarNeo 1 month ago
I come from Bulawayo and I am so proud to see such open mindedness and progressive thinking. Nobody was asked to be gay, they simple donated bins for collecting rubbish..... its just that
hlongwanek1988 1 month ago
even in europe and USA being gay is still frowned upon especially in USA
westq2 1 month ago
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tpee123 1 month ago
every bit counts.
Beaupolais 2 months ago
Mugabe is a murderer.
gay are here to stay
sharpjwe 2 months ago 3
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83leaf 2 months ago
> Openly hostile to homosexuals
> His suit
SEEMS LEGIT!
FHomeBrew 2 months ago
Mugabe is anti homosexuality? in this video he looked like his boyfriend decided what to wear today :D
Aanthanur 2 months ago 2
@Aanthanur hahahahaha
sauvignonblanc0 2 months ago
Nice to see that mayor and MP are a good counterpoint to the madness of the murderer Mugabe.
Thank you Catholic Church for encouraging this kind of intolerance in Africa...you must be so proud. Almost as proud a the slack jawed Evenagelicals doing far worse in Uganda.
johnycannuk 2 months ago
i see mugabe still doing great things... think Jesus for people like him.... africa!!!
83leaf 2 months ago
@83leaf Please be a troll. I would hate to think anyone was actually that stupid.
yerk3 2 months ago
@yerk3 only european countries embrace men fucking men, it obvious a propaganda stunt to make king mugabe seem evil but all his actions is rightous in my eye and in my God eyes
83leaf 2 months ago
@83leaf Maybe you and your ilk should leave "God" to deal with those he finds abominable in his (or her) own way. Or at least be honest and accept you're just using "God" to excuse your own ignorant bigotry. And perhaps the irony of bigotry practiced by people who were not all that long ago on the receiving end of such hate may be lost on you, but it isn't on others.
ralph17p 2 months ago
@ralph17p name a non european country that's not under the control of europe who promotes homosexuality? look at history, the ancient africans never embrace that nasty shit. then research the roman and greek empires, you will clearly see that nasty shit was a normal practice. its y'all culture that's morally corrupting the hearts of man. come back with historical facts from non bias sources....
83leaf 2 months ago
@83leaf yerk3 was right. You are fucking stupid.
We don't "promote" homosexuality. There are no billboards saying "Become Gay! It's awesome!" But we have grown up a bit and realised it's nobody else's business who someone chooses to love, and what they do when they're naked. And morality is more complicated and less rigid than some bronze-age goat herders would have us believe.
ralph17p 2 months ago
@ralph17p you never answer my questions, yet you come back with insults. Ima take it as tho ur point is to protect white supremacy in a homosexual kinda way. ur people and culture are like a virus, the non european world sees this, its the people inside the beast that's sleep
83leaf 2 months ago
@83leaf I didn't answer your question because it's irrelevant. Who cares if ancient Africans were homophobic and ancient greeks weren't? What would that prove? Nothing - it's a bullshit argument even if you could prove it.
And seriously; how is standing up for the rights of a few gay africans "protecting white supremacy"? While you seem to be standing up for the questionable morality of a God who thinks slavery is quite alright.
ralph17p 2 months ago
@ralph17p Not only that, but a God from a religion imported by the very white devils he denounces. If anything is white supremacy, it is standing on the neck of gay Africans in the name of a white man's religion!
yerk3 2 months ago
@yerk3 christianity is originally africa, adopted by the evil Constantine of europe in the earilier AD... i ask you to do a quick google research on homosexuality in ancient europe, but i see you didn't do it. go to google type in homosexuality in greece or rome and thousands of links comes up including images. and stop hitting me up
83leaf 2 months ago
@83leaf Jesus is from Israel, not from Zimbabwe, but his message is claimed to be universal. Christianisme is very successful in Africa, where it was brought by the European Colons and either replaced local religion/belief or didn't. The presence of Christianity in Africa, South America and parts of Asia is the result of the British, French and Spanish Empires, and came along with slavery and resource plundering.
artkozak 2 months ago
@83leaf Christianity is not from Africa. It is from the Roman province of Judea, which is in the Levant, which is technically on the Westernmost edge of Asia, thought it became popular among the Romans.
yerk3 1 month ago
@yerk3 i wouldn't trust ur source if it meant saving ur being demon...
83leaf 1 month ago
@yerk3 if you want real truth demon, you start researching the african concept of a child savior which predates the birth of God ”jesus” by 1000 of years. meaning it was and still is african tradition stolen by urs people as far as credict... but all thats changing
83leaf 1 month ago
@83leaf LOL, you calling me "demon" is just the icing on the cake. You're not doing yourself any favors. The Christian mythos had nothing to do with the African concept of "child savior." Jesus wasn't a "child savior" anyway, he was over 30 when he was supposed to have performed all of his miracles and died for the sins of humanity.
yerk3 1 month ago
@yerk3 im not here to debate with you demon... read between the lines
83leaf 1 month ago
@83leaf So in other words, you can't back up any of your baseless assertions, and have resorted to accusing me of being a mythological metaphysical entity in order to stall the argument. Like a boss.
yerk3 1 month ago
@83leaf Christianity originates from a particular Jewish sect in the first century A.D, not some unspecified time and place in Africa. This is from the historical record. When the Catholic and Protestant missionaries were converting Southern Africans to their versions of Christianity, they were teaching a specifically Europeanized version of Christianity, not some vague concept of "child saviors."
yerk3 1 month ago
@83leaf Christianity didn't appear in Africa until after Constantine introduced it to the Byzantine provinces in North Africa, and even then, it was Byzantine Othodox Christianity, not the Catholic and Protestant Christianity that has been imposed on much of Africa. Those were introduced in the 19th century. Unless Robert Mugabe is a member of the Coptic or Ethiopian Orthodox Church, he is enforcing the rules of a colonialist religion.
yerk3 1 month ago
@83leaf So according to you, the USA, China, India and Russia are European?
artkozak 2 months ago
@83leaf Mister history doctor, The USA is not under the control of Europe. If anything, the USA has a high levy on European States. Homosexuality has been legal in the mainland PRC (China) since 1997. China is highly independant from European Culture. It's really only Muslim Countries and some African Countries where it is illegal.
artkozak 2 months ago 2
@ralph17p its a cultural practice thats exploited in rock paintings and european art repeatedly though out european history. ex. Alexander the Greek... homosexuality and ur people also got a history of having sex with animals. dating back thousands of years. Its a nasty practice that's anti life/ counter productive. ”....And morality is more complicated and less rigid than some bronze-age goat herders would have us believe....” that tells me what system you really stand for...
83leaf 2 months ago
@83leaf It's a biological phenomenon that has existed in all races and all continents as long as humanity has existed. Where are these "rock paintings" depicting homosexuality? Can you give some examples of homosexuality in European art outside of the modern era and a short period in ancient Greece?
yerk3 2 months ago
@83leaf Even the men of the Aristocratic class in ancient Greece who had openly gay relationships were not 100% gay, they were more like bisexual, they were still expected to have wives and children, and even then, it was only accepted among the Aristocratic caste, not among the peasantry or merchant classes, and it was constrained by rules that didn't apply to heterosexual relationships.
yerk3 2 months ago
@83leaf Relationships between men in ancient Greece were supposed to be based not on the physical, but on mental and emotional compatibility. If a man just wanted sex, went the reasoning of the day, he had his wife, but if he really wanted to bond with someone on an emotional level, he had to find another man, because the Greeks believed that women were of a lesser intelligence and secretly evil.
yerk3 2 months ago
@83leaf Where do you get the glorious ridiculousness about white people having a "history," dating back "thousands of years" of having sex with animals? Whites are no more inclined to bestiality than any other group. In fact, I recently read an article about a man who was arrested for breaking into a pig farm and raping female pigs. The dude in question was black. Gay sex is no "nastier" than most heterosexual sex. You still have to take a shower after doing both of them.
yerk3 2 months ago
@83leaf How is it "anti-life?" Because it isn't for the direct purpose of making babies? Do straight couples using condoms fall under the same condemnation? How about couples who are infertile for medical reasons? If they have sex, knowing that it won't result in pregnancy, is that "anti-life?"
yerk3 2 months ago
@83leaf How is it beneficial in this day and age for couples to have as many children as they can anyhow? The world is over-populated, our species is in danger not from under-breeding, but from there being too many of us for the planet to continue to support us. At some point, our need for food will outstrip the planet's ability to supply it, even with large-scale industrial farming that exhausts the land. Resources are finite.
yerk3 2 months ago
@83leaf And this is without even mentioning the ultimate irony of your position: you accuse homosexuality of being a foreign evil imported from the West, on the basis of foreign religion imported from the West! Colonialism indeed! Were was the talk of the evil, decadent, sick, perverted white devils when you were eagerly swallowing up their poisonous religion?
yerk3 2 months ago
@83leaf In some In Zimbabwe, in Shona tribes, there is a belief that a man having sex with another man, particularly a younger one, can bring good fortune to the senior partner, it's very similar the Greek Practise.
artkozak 2 months ago 2
@83leaf Are you god? If you have his eyes, please hand them back
artkozak 2 months ago
@83leaf please check this map about gay rights, and you will see that not only european countries embrace men fucking men. It's quite the opposit, homosexuality is legal in most countries. It is illegal only in Muslim Countries and some African Countries. Your god eyes need glasses.
artkozak 2 months ago
@artkozak you'll find the map by searching for "gay rights" on wikipedia.
artkozak 2 months ago 2
@artkozak smh
83leaf 2 months ago
@artkozak you full of shit just like that link of bullshit i just checked out, next time you homoz hit me up wit bullshit, im blocking you
83leaf 2 months ago
@83leaf Your insults are the witness that you have lost the argument. Look for "gay rights" on wikipedia and you'll see homosexuality is legal in most countries around the world, except some African countries and most Muslim Countries. Homosexuality is legal in China, India, Russia, Europe, the Americas... Being insulted by a homophobic is real kind of compliment :)
artkozak 2 months ago 2
@83leaf It's funny when you say you're going to block someone on a public comment section, like they won't be able to reply to your comments. It's the kind of hollow bluster that really makes a person look ridiculous.
yerk3 1 month ago
@83leaf You not liking the facts doesn't make them any less true.
yerk3 1 month ago
@yerk3 i agree, i was mostly referring to the homos who was putting there opinion on my page
83leaf 1 month ago
@yerk3 my comment has been stated, and to make my comment a little clearer, i said (non european countries thats not controlled by the white man), ex. such as the rebellious african countries.
83leaf 1 month ago
pretty funny
Delta4ms 2 months ago
MUGABE..... MURDER!! SUCK MY DICK!!
LillyofParis 2 months ago
@LillyofParis Mugabe power to the people.!!!!!
truezimchick 2 months ago
0:40 nice suite mr president.
edmp310 2 months ago 2