@deadshot1995 And how do you know which are the teachings of Jesus (God) if you haven't read the bible? First you must inform yourself about this and then you may tell me that I did a bad thing by mocking evolutionists. Until then STFU!!!!!!!!!!
@chris241289 Actually, I HAVE read the Bible. Both Testaments actually. Personally I find the god you worship a vicious, mass-murdering, psychopathic dictator, but Jesus the man was quite kind and good-hearted.
He preached "loving your enemies." I don't know why you consider rational people your enemies, but if you do, you should not insult them because it's not Christian.
@deadshot1995 Is it rational to think that you are the son of a monkey? You call this rational? I think your mom is proud for calling her a chimpanzee. And about that thing with "my god" being vicious and mass-murderer this is a bullshit you invented. My God is NOT as you described Him. And neither am I.
@chris241289 Son of a monkey? Lol you clearly don't know a thing about evolution because that is not what it says. Your straw man argument makes you seem like a fool to be honest. As for you disagreeinjg that Yahweh is a vicious mass-murderer of a God, well that just means you haven't read the Old Testament, which gives us many examples. For example, I remember a verse in which children mocked a preacher's bald head, so your God sent wild bears to kill 42 of the children.
@deadshot1995 I know about evolution enough. But you did not understand my JOKE about you being the son of a chimpanzee. And about that verse which says that some bears killed 42 children because God wanted so, I want you to know that the God who "killed" those children is actually Jesus Christ of the New Testament. It is not another God as you imagine. And why does this make you believe God is a psycho murderer? The children should know too that you are not allowed to mock God.
@chris241289 They didn't mock God, they mocked a preacher. Okay, then what about when he killed every first born son in Egypt out of spite? Or when he had entire towns burned down and all their inhabitants killed just because a few people were worshiping other gods. Or when he drowned every nearly every living thing on Earth in a Flood, including children, babies and animals.
@deadshot1995 Oh yeah? But what about :"Do I actually delight in the death of the wicked, declares the sovereign Lord? Do I not prefer that he turn from his wicked conduct and live?"? I have qouted a verse from Ezeckiel's book chapter 18. This is the same God that you consider wicked. Yeah, He did punish all those people but not with pleasure, but with a deep sorrow instead. In fact God Himself suffers when he "kills" someone.
@deadshot1995 “But if a righteous man turns away from his righteousness and practices wrongdoing according to all the abominable practices the wicked carry out, will he live? All his righteous acts will not be remembered; because of the unfaithful acts he has done and the sin he has committed, he will die.". Here is another verse that proves that my God is right and kind hearted at the same time. Anyway mind your own business an leave me alone if you don't want to believe in God!
If you were diagnosed with Stage 3 cancer - would you turn to medicine or would you pray to your GOD for a miracle? Why would you interfer with GOD's plan? If GOD wants you dead...then why interfer? Afterall, you've got a lovely, warm heaven to look forward to - where you can spend eternity with dad, family, friends and pets. Assuming they join you that is....
Your position is so weak. Most people are unconvinced GOD exists. To talk of GOD as 'My GOD' is just rediculous.
@DIGITALSCREAMS I would do both. I would go to medicine and I would also pray to God to help me. God does not want me to die. I have to fight for my life and health being with everything I can.
@chris241289 if god exists he would be all loving and want what is best for his people so he would not cause natural disasters.he would be all powerful so no matter how great an evil such as a child with an incurable disease he would be able to stop it. he would be all knowing so he would no off the suffering off people and he loves them so he would try to stop it he is all powerful so he would be able to. However he dosent and that is why the god Christians believe cannot exist (evolution ftw)
i cant believe people are pushing their religion into public schools, that means you need to allow every religion/cult to be taught their side in public schools in order for it to be fair.
When scientists don't have the answer yet, they say "we don't have the answer yet, but we're working on it". Creationists say "godditit". Fucking stupid. And WTF was with that remark about chinese and latin monkeys? Did this guy EVER go to school?
Religion does not belong in public schools. Religion is not science, its a belief system. How can you teach one religion in a public school and not another? Would these creationists agree to teach Islam and Hinduism along with Christianity as valid alternatives to evolution? Of course they wouldn't. Because they just "know" they are right. Sorry, but you're wrong. Grow up, stop acting like five year olds who need a parent all their lives for guidance.
IF we did come from monkey i dont know what to say i mean, almost all monkeys look the same. When it comes to humans im not sure if there was white monkeys or chineese monkey or latin monkeys but the fact all race came from a monkey is diffrerent. Maybe if science explained DNA was mixed with monkeys and thats how we came is different. The real truth isnt here with all these questins we have everyday.
@trigg3r305 you're a complete moron to think that we came from monkeys. Evolution says that both humans and monkeys came from a COMMON ANCESTOR. we couldn't had evolved from monkeys because monkeys are a present evolved species.
@trigg3r305 also there are different kinds of monkeys dumbass, like the spider monkey, the mandril, the squirrel monkey and so on. Not to get confused and say these evolved into humans cuz they didn't. And wtf is a Latin monkey? if you're talking about your pressumed assumption that spanish speakin people of the americas evolved from a 'latin' monkey, latino is not a race but an ethnicity. not only do you not know science but you're cluless about history.
The comment made by Francis Crick relates clearly to the origin of life. It is irrelevant to the debate about Evolution. Such techniques highlight the lengths creationists will go to in order to cloud the position of evolutionary science. I suppose it's the only thing they can do!
According to Wikipedia, science is defined as "(from Latin: scientia meaning "knowledge") is a systematic enterprise that builds and organizes knowledge in the form of testable explanations and predictions about the universe". If no one can recreate or reproduce the beginning of life and the universe as we know it in modern day in order to test it and prove it, then evolution needs to not be considered science as no monkeys have transformed into humans and no big bang.Mutation isn't evolution
According to Wikipedia, science is defined as "(from Latin: scientia meaning "knowledge") is a systematic enterprise that builds and organizes knowledge in the form of testable explanations and predictions about the universe". If no one can recreate or reproduce the beginning of life and the universe as we know it in modern day in order to test it and prove it, then evolution needs to not be considered science as no monkeys have transformed into humans and no big bang. Mutation isn't evolution
@tip862 Very flawed logic here. Can anyone on Earth recreate you? No? Does that mean your birth cannot be explained and it not need be a part of the science of biology? Can anyone reproduce a blood splatter pattern in a crime scene? No? Then does that mean the forensic expert cannot explain how it happened?
By the way, your understanding of evolution is flat out wrong. No where in the evolutionary theory does it state that humans evolved from monkeys.
@iz2sicc The difference is that we observe human reproduction every day and we can have children and so there is no need to theorize anything as to how people got here, as the process continues. My point is that evolutionists cannot explain how out of nothing (meaning, no use of raw materials that are already here) they can produce life or a chain reaction of events. We know that a baby is created from the combination of the egg and sperm already present in its parents, already there.
@tip862 How do you think all of what you just described was discovered? THROUGH SCIENTIFIC THEORIES. It was science that discovered that. Before then, people believed that pregnancy was some type of mythical event. Women were killed for not birthing a son by many leaders. Before science, these leaders did not understand that it's the man's sperm that determines sex. Evolution has been observed. Plenty of evidence has been found. Fish with legs, dinosaurs with feathers. But you refute all this.
@iz2sicc As far as the monkey theory goes, there are many evolutionists who believe that humans and monkeys share the same ancestors, so what is flawed is evolutionists agreeing on how we all got here. Theories are not facts, b/c real facts don't change. The entire split atom phenomenon answered scientists who didn't believe there were smaller particles than the atom itself. Creationists understand that God IS before anyone "was" and God DID before anyone "does".Scientists are just catching up.
@tip862 Theories are not fact. No branch of science claims this. That is an Error of Fact on your part. There are some things in this world that can never be proven/disproven. That does not mean there are very plausible theories. A solid theory is backed by evidence. Evolution has a mind blowing amount of evidence to back it. It has also had the power to predict further substantiating the theory. And facts do change. A ball is inflated FACT. The same ball deflated FACT. I call that a change.
@iz2sicc That's not an example of a FACT changing, but rather an example of a state of motion changing or a state of matter changing, or state of position.They're all facts surrounding that item, such as: the water froze and turned into ice, then the ice melted and changed into water, then the water was heated and changed into steam..these are all facts about one item & it's called a process. But we know regardless of the states that it's still WATER. Just as embryo, to fetus to baby, etc..
@tip862 You're flat out wrong. That IS fact changing. It is also a state of motion/matter changing as well. The two aren't mutually exclusive. Fact: The magnetic poles shift. Are you suggesting our current compasses aren't factually correct? Will you call that a state of change? You are picking and choosing what parts of science to believe in. When it comes to your religion, you deny anything scientific. But when it comes to your daily life, you put trust in science. IRRATIONAL
@iz2sicc This will be my last comment regarding this b/c it's useless debating an issue that's so clear. According to your logic, whenever something changes, shifts, moves, etc.. then the previous condition has been negated. Your hair was wet, now it's dry. The fact that it's now dry doesn't mean that it wasn't previously wet... Both are facts about that object. A true example of a "fact change", a.k.a LIE, is someone saying 1+1=3 and records it. Later, someone corrects that & says really =2.
@tip862 Nowhere in my explanation does it imply that my logic says whenever something changes the previous condition is negated. Do you not understand what "NOT MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE" means? That is not the fault of my explanation, it is the fault of your lack of comprehension. Therefore, everything you just said is negated. 1+1=2 is a fact that doesn't change. A shift in the magnetic poles is a fact that is changing. Where do you get that I'm implying a previous condition is negated for ALL facts?
@tip862 And don't speak to me about logic when you believe in stories like Noah's Ark. Don't talk about logic when you believe a magic being created the universe, but nothing created it. Your belief system is a complete lie. Coincidentally (not really), 1+1=3 is a perfect example of the type of logic you creationists use.
@tip862 By the way, you wouldn't dare do half of the things to your own child that God does to all his children. And you call your God a loving, moral being? I suggest you re-examine your own morals if you would allow your child to starve because you place faith in mankind to take care of the child for you. Take a deep look at yourself if you would allow your child to be raped and tortured by people who claim to be doing it for you. And you speak about my logic being flawed. Please...
@tip862 I truly feel bad for you overtly religious. You people are completely blinded by faith. You claim to see God in the beauty of the world, but what you don't realize is that you're missing the TRUE beauty of the Universe because of your narrow mindedness. You put your faith in God and give him credit for human morals. Pity, as I see the beauty of being an animal that is capable of contemplating morals. The Universe is beautiful in it's poetic chaos. But you religious don't see that. Sad.
@iz2sicc God doesn't change, evolutionary theories do. Regardless of what evolutionists say, evolution is NOT science, it is a religion. They put their belief or Faith in some man-made theory that they have not personally seen, observed or tested.Yes magnetic poles shift, people gain weight, climates change, so what..?! Real science is being able to make real observations and testing out data of which all of these are examples. When you can't that's where some form of faith comes in.
@tip862 Evolution is not a religion. Quit getting your information from creationist garbage. Evolution does not have a church. Evolution does not knock on your door to convert you... oh excuse me, I mean save you. Evolution doesn't base beliefs on faith with a complete lack of evidence. You want to talk about man-made theory? WTF do you think the bible is? You think GOD WROTE IT? Bullshit. It was written by the hands of man.
@tip862 You seem to have this fixation on the term "observed". Let's roll with that. Science in fact has observed theories like the Big Bang. INDIRECTLY. There are tons of evidence for the aftermath of the big bang. You really think that you have to actually observe a big bang for it to be fact? What an ignorant life you lead. Did you observe the Pyramids around the world being built? No? I guess they were never built by humans then. Just POOF! Magic.
@iz2sicc Also, data changes are not fact changes. How else would a scientist be able to measure anything without them? Changes in the measurement of a testable object does not qualify it as a fact change b/c it's comparing the difference between what it USED to be (fact), and what it currently IS (also fact). No facts are changing, just the data updates. I pray for you & all evolutionists who deny God that He will draw you to Him and the truth, and will repent and accept Him!! Sincerely!!
@tip862 Now you're talking about measurements? Good Spaghetti Monster, take your head out of your ass. USED to be fact means it is no longer fact, but was fact at one point. Where in there is it not a fact change? And don't you dare fucking pray for me. If your prayers do anything (which they don't), then save it for those that need it like all of those children suffering in third world countries. I am not as selfish as you and if God were real, I would never selfishly ask him for help. ARROGANT
@tip862 By the way, I doubt you knew this, but let me point it out anyway. Jupiter has been in our night sky for over a week now. It's the biggest brightest star in the night sky. You can't miss it. Grab a telescope if you can, I wish I had one... You will be able to see the magnificence of Jupiter with one. This is the beauty of science. Something you will not be aware of if you bury your head in a book that was authored by many men.
This debate is not even. The creationist guy is a complete idiot. They are all idiots but this guy is manages to speak while he is having an mental electric fire. "Time magazine used the word imagine, thats not science" (so nani nani boo boo teach creationism too). The SCIENTIST made an excellent point about not finding rabbits in the Cambrian fossil layer . ID ass hole says it coulda been a flood. A FLOOD? 1. thats religion and 2. a flood could never EVER mix trilobites with contemporary bones
Denying creationism is like children attempting to explain away their parents. It would be like observing all of the architecture, paintings, and various designs made by men from years ago and then denying that man ever created them, but somehow out of thin air a spontaneous event occurred that magically created something that spectacular and complex creation. To believe that out of Nothing came Everything and out of randomness came order, that takes more blind "faith" than religion.
@MrWagman11 I'm not sure how you drew that conclusion from what I said, but it's not that God came from nothing, Rather that God has always been! He didn't Come From, instead He Brought Forth!! He wasn't created... as He is the Creator of all things. The architect of the universe!
@tip862 Now that's very convenient isn't it. God didn't come from anything He's always been. So when creationists argue that something can't come from nothing, they added a loophole. That doesn't apply to God because God has always been. You Christians just keep fooling yourselves.
@MrWagman11 The big bang theory, what started that? I mean, evolutionists can't explain what caused that, but they just have "faith" that "something" started it... outta what they can't say. To just believe what the Bible states that God is the great "I Am" answers it so definitively. However, people who chose to deny His existence will believe that some inanimate object created everything, to not have to answer to a higher authority than themselves. As intricate as we are, they still deny.
@tip862 There's nothing wrong with saying you don't know how the universe started. Just because all the answers aren't known doesn't mean a God did it.
@MrWagman11 And it doesn't mean that a God did NOT do it either! God has already shown his existence in creation itself and the wise man will know the truth. He will make Himself known to you if you are open to receive Him.
@MrWagman11 I have ALL the evidence I need. Human life, design of the human body, animal life, life cycles, climatic cycles, mountains, trees, birds, bees, solar system, etc..However, evolutionists will never believe the evidence that God has so plainly laid out for everyone to see. They're too humanistic for that. Unless a "superman", demi-god, scientist states that it's a fact, they will continue to deny what's evident or at least admit to not knowing. Pleading ignorance won't be excusable.
according to modern day science big bang is the cause of all pain and sufferings in earth. haven't there been a big bang there would be no earth no pain and suffering. science cant just say that big bang happened from nothingness. there was a supreme force to trigger that bang so evolutionist cant just say evolution evolution and evolution. and i think its foolish for a modern day human to say god created adam and eve from adam's ribs. so i guess they must find the common grounds in each other..
@0C8 thats the stupidest statement ever uttered. 1. the big bang isnt the cause of pain its the cause of life. 2. couldnt i say god causes pain the same way you say the big bang does. 3. the big bang didnt decide to happen it happened that is all to it. 4. the bing bang doesnt say it came from nothingness that just shows how much you dont know, it says its an exspantion of matter that WAS ALREADY THERE. 5. even if evolution was false your god still wouldnt be proven. 6. we did keep it out.
there is life so there is pain. u r right the bigbang didnt decide to happen but u cant just simply say it happened there was someone or something to mak it hapen i agree bigbang was an expenssion but the scientist doesnt say matter that was already there which means u r following steady state theory which science dosnt reckon. yes i do follow evolution as well as creation. first there was creation later evolution took place. if earth was not created how can u prove evolution to take place????
@0C8 you see you say created as if everything has to be created. do you know that its possible to make something from nothing? it happened we made life from non living materials. so if it is possible to make something from nothing then couldnt we theories that maybe thats how we got here? from nothing? im not claiming thats how but while you sit there saying everything needs to be created or have a creator im telling you no it doesnt. its ben proven that you dont. also science does say that. ->
@emanrulez1 evolution is corect bcoz science have prove it but sayin wat hapen before the big bang is not a good question to ask saying so we cant just leave the question unanswered, do we?tats the mystery we want to decode the man on the vid speaks abit of string theory which is just a theory have never been practically proven theoretically he was correct. lets just hope string theory gets to its conclusion fast so we all hav the ans was universe created or was it there from beginning of time.
@emanrulez1 i am an atheist who dont believ in god of prayers i just hav 0 ida what magical and mythological god is or are. i mean to say everything must have its beginning. every living organism was a sperm which was created. by saying so i don mean to ignore the facts about evolution theory which has been verified but evolution we look is solely based on earth. science is lame without religion and religion is blind without science. not every science is corect and not every religion is perfect.
@0C8 look ive told you before we have showed that it wouldnt require a god to make living materials. we have showed things evolved and just cause we cant tell you exactly how we got here is irrelevant to the proof we already showed. you keep saying why couldnt a god have done it. i ask you what is our definition of a god.
@emanrulez1 Albert Einstein - "I want to know how God created this world. I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know his thoughts. The rest are details." his last attempt was to make an equation which could explain everything. that quest has now become a string theory. he was an atheist, but what god was he referring what was his definition on god then? i have repeatedly said that i dont belive in god of prayers.
@0C8 and i asked you what is your definition of a god? what is it. is it an all powerful been is it just a supreme been what is your definition of a god. i did not ask you ur religion.
@emanrulez1 I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with the fates and actions of human beings. A. Einstein.
and i have never said my religion to u and the term god is yet to be known and tested. since science cannot test god's existence we cannot say god is not there. science evolves, the things in 1700s are proven wrong in 1800s and so on. so till now i do believe in what einstein have to say about god.
@0C8 you say he cant be tested by science your god who exist in harmony with us its more like your saying even if he was to exist then itd be impossible to know. since it would be impossible to know by your definition whats the point in believeing? by your definition your god doesnt do anything and if he did itd be impossible to know. so i say dont you feel thats a little to convient? i mean cmon now it seems like a cop out. oh its there you just cant find out in anyway. seems funny?
@emanrulez1 u r completely right my friend. and i m not trying to convince my thoughts to u as well. creation VS evolution has been a huge debate since evolution theory came forward. and what i dont like is that the creationist have always put a mythological god forward. and evolutionist looks solely on the aspect of earth. and saying from nothing came something. physics is all abt logic and proving things and i see no way they fit into the physics system.
@0C8 and yes they may have theories but the theories become scientific once proven. and human civilization has been all this way advanced because we have a curiosity and power of imagination. what really drags us is them. and god is one thing we really want to know. u said we dont know and whats a point believing in god, thats not how a true scientific man looks or views things. and i have never know how a living thing can be made from nothing as u said to do dat would take a magical god i guess
@0C8 i told you it has been proven by scientist that living material came from nothing. no it is not a magical god. it happens by completly scientific reasons. organically . you admitted yourself that we dont and cant possibly understand him. and if he was there itd be impossible to know so im saying if thats the standards of your god then what is the point of believeing in him? you pretty much saying not only is he completely useless but impossible to know if exist. so whats the point?
@emanrulez1 find me name of the scientist. life doesnt mean cloned must be natural formed. what i know is life can only create life. but i m not denying evolution. 4 fundamental forces of nature gravity, emf, nuclear weak and strong. what was before that and who made it? it is not the point of believing, question is about finding n discovering. and to be honest hes not useless hes completely useless, there comes Darwin evolution theory. coz if someone starve he is not there to feed them.
@0C8 watch?v=mXkc7ToYsTI&feature=related your argument in a nutshell. but by your own definition he is unknowable am i making a mistake cause your yet to correct me. your asking the wrong question it isnt who but how. how did this come to be. when you see a rock laying someplace you dont say who you say how did this rock come here but your saying who made this rock come here. Abiogenesis btw it isnt one scientist its multiple. look it up.
@emanrulez1 the man on the phone put beautiful question with a personal god being the creator for which the host of the program hung up just coz they cannot make him believe their opinion. that was obvious coz creation vs evolution is really hard thing to tackle on few mins of fone call. and about the credit giving, when man first landed the moon that was the success of whole humanity not of a personal god. coz god i believe in doesnt concerns himself with the fates and actions of human beings.
@0C8 so when i asked what type of god you believed in you should have said a been thats all powerful that doesnt concern itself with us. so your personal god you made up.(hate personal gods) to account for creation.(which i explained to you that we have explanations for it.) ok let me ask you this tell me what god you believe in tell me all you believe in this god what he dos yotta yotta etc. i wanna get down to what type of god you believe in exactly. dont with hold any info.
@emanrulez1 have a peek at this video friend real Phd Physicist saying their views and i do respect them for what they are trying to do. youtube.com/watch?v=wHHz4mB9GKY&feature=related
@0C8 so what would be the point in even believeing in such a god? you by your own definition made him impossible for anyone to understand or know him so i will say this with much respect but that is a dumb way of looking at it. cause it seems more like you just made a personal god and want to believe because you want to. ive discussed personal gods before with people who like to bend the rules but your not like that. so ill ask you what reason do you have to believe in this god?
@emanrulez1 greatest scientist of 1800s Lord Kelvin said "anything heavier then air cannot fly". plane was a mystery in those days. and the term god is the biggest mystery we want find. the term god is not a personal god or mythological god it is just a mystery, that our curious mind wants to decode. its in human nature we want more and more and friend today science is not advance to leave saying o.k. we now know everythin. fren ill continue to belive in that mystery untill it is decoded.
@0C8 wow a 1800 scientist was wrong about something. i dont think he ment it in the context you have stated cause birds are heavier but still fly. you didnt need to be a scientist to know that. ok any scientist will admit that hey we dont know everything but to throw your hands in the air and say a god must have done it is insulting to everything we worked on.(how?) cause then it becomes whether or not were smart or god made us smart. people have and will give god all the credit.
@emanrulez1 with all respect to lord kelvin, science at his time was not that forward. so we cant say him wrong. the questions about how,who,why n when, friend they are philosophical things. where as the question how and when tend to be scientific den the question why. example> how was a building created, when was it created, who created, and why was it created. u can have a definite ans for how and when but for the question why u can only have your opinion unless and until u know who.
@0C8 yes but again your asking a question that assumes a creator. im not sure if i told you that hey we dont need a creator cause matter can come from nothing. now the correct question is how. because you have not shown we need a creator. we have an answer for when or atleast a good one around 16 billion years was it?
@MrDJMISAEL it has ben shown under exsperiments that matter can come from nothing. none living matter can also make living matter. just look it up if your interested there are a few videos on youtube bout it.
@emanrulez1, nothing can come out of nothing, in order for something to come out of nothing, it must be before it was. and this invalids the law of non- contradiction that says that a can not be a not a in at the same time and in the same relationship. in other words i can not be and not be at the same time and in the same relatiosnhip. you can not answer my question and not answer my question at the same time. If you fallow that path of thought your not talking about science but of magic.
@emanrulez1, nothing can come out of nothing, in order for something to come out of nothing, it must be before it was. and this invalids the law of non- contradiction that says that a can not be a not a in at the same time and in the same relationship. in other words i can not be and not be at the same time and in the same relatiosnhip. you can not answer my question and not answer my question at the same time. If you fallow that path of thought your not talking about science but of magic.
@0C8 and yes friend i have never said evolution is wrong. because science have proven with facts and figures so denying them is a stupid thing. But before evolution take place there must be a creation for evolution to evolve. imagine u r a painter and u have a tools necessary to paint and finally u have painted a beautiful picture. in that scenario u become a creator the tools become a things necessary for evolution and the picture u painted evolved in a complete beautiful picture.
both evolution and creation are right in their own ways. of course god didnt create plants n animals, they were the product of million of years of evolution in which evolution come forward. but question comes who helped in evolving those plants and animal thats god. he/she/it build the universe planets lights which helped in evolution process. (god doesn't refer the god of prayers like Jehovah or the Allah or any god. thats a supreme force well unknown to modern science ). only my view.hehehehe
@0C8 heres a link my friend.ht tp://ww w.yo utube.co m/wat ch?v=A NtpsunRYIs this is a great explamation pretty much telling you what the big bang is feel free to check out his other vids there good. also your saying you god was always there so couldnt i say energy was always there too? cause then youd go in a loop with who created your god. also it would fit with the laws of nature since nothing can be created or destroyed.
@jeremythehuman , When we talk about an eternal designer, we are not talking about a being which created itself or a being that came out of nothing, or that was created. but We refer to a being which has the power of being within himself, that can not,not be. who has always existed, and will continue to exist becouse that being is not dependadandt on anyhting outside of himself. and this does not invalid any law of logic whatsoever.
"we are not talking about a being which created itself or a being that came out of nothing, or that was created"
Something I have been 'schooled' on by creationists is that there are only two alternatives. Sentient entities either got here via the evolutionary process or by a process of design and hence disputing evolution, they feel, demonstrates their own position.
So what about your sentient entity, your eternal designer, which of these two possibilities is it?
This is obviously a biased interview. That quote about the origin of life being a miracle is evidense of the gang up going on here. 1) it's not science it's just a quote of an opinion, there is no evidence or fact to back that up 2) he's not referencing god or creationism just the statistical improbability behind life itself. Also the fact that they've picked an evolutionist with a thick indian accent making his points harder to understand also the host doesn't question the idiot design guy
ONe more thing is the idea of a creationist is interesting to the young mind. its actually a good story.. but its just another way to control the minds of the American people,. you know spread this whole GOD bullshit.. in science my GOD is the SUN its what keeps us alive.....
GOD condricts himself. he said he created everything in his image and that everything we do in life is predestined and/or predetermained . it was already planned... so if thats the case. why would you leave the ones you created to rely on faith in you. you say its a test,. you cant test something if you already programmed its duties. and you know the outcome because your in control of what happens... O_o
Wow, a scientist used the word imagine three times in a popular magazine article. That must mean that the theory of evolution is completely imaginary. Here I thought that it was based on over 150 years of accumulated evidence, but nope, a scientist said imagine three times. Oh well, rewrite the textbooks.
us being here is a miracle mericles do happen.creation proves there is a creator to say that a bmw happend by accident would be madness just like saying everthing comes from nothing. jesus bleed and died on a cross for yours sins so you could be forgiven repent and trust in christ and you will be saved
lmao, " the flood put them in that order " why would they date in order than? How does 1 flood that lasted almost a full year rearrange the entire fossil record? How do people even listen to this without laughing let alone believe it.
m hm m hm m hm m hm m hm clenched fist beady little eyes ha ha ha ha he looked like he wanted to punch that poor dude. What a rude little man, arrogance is symptomatic of the Darwinian devote! Ooo look at me I have empirical knowledge, In an educated dumbass ha ha ha ha the more scientific these guys get the less they know ha ha ha ha ha ha ha because they actually force themselves into ignorance they dont even know 5% off the facts in the universe ha ha ha ha how ironic
@888WulfDog888 That's fine... Evolution is fact, there is no scientific evidence which disproves Evolution, so I'm willing to make a bet with you. If you can present ANY scientific evidence which disproves that Evolution is correct and true, I'll give you 1,000 Dollars.
On the other hand, ID, Creationism has ben thrown out by a US court of law and labeled as "Not Science"
@xNoReligionx yes there is! riddle me this. What was the edorgonic process that created the free biological energy energy required to sustain the exergonic process in the first organism? Or this mysterious blob of snot you so called "scientific" people keep gob smacking on about! and dont say the sun because without the rest of the equation the sun would have just cooked everything. What came first the chicken or the egg?
@xNoReligionx and if your going to crook on about how evolution is not interested in the how it all started then remember this; an organism can only feed of itself for so long before it will die (I'm being very generous here and allowing you the absurdity that it could even begin without it, yea right!), it requires free (organic) energy from endorgonic process in the environment.
@888WulfDog888 Well why would I want to point out the fact that evolution is nothing to do with abiogenesis when you already know that.
Evolution is just the best theory which explains how life evolved from single cell creatures to more complex one's. It is a very strong theory with no scientific evidence to the contrary. ID on the other hans is just wishful thinking :)
@xNoReligionx Its not the best theory, it is not strong and it has many flaws, only people that are indoctrinated in a process of conformity can believe these so called "evidences"! Please treat myself and others who reject this theory on the basis of empirical evidence with the respect due.
@888WulfDog888 It's the ONLY theory and it has tons of evidence, in fact I'm willing to bet you 1,000 dollars that you can't produce scientific evidence which disproves Evolution... I'm serious, if you think that Evolution is a weak theory, then you should be able to crush it easily and earn some cash at the same time.
@xNoReligionx It is NOT the only theory and you know as well as I do that disproving something that is this embedded into the sciences is NOT ALLOWED. The "tons" of evidence is refuted on every scale and point by scientists who have empirical knowledge and logic as well. Your proposition is one of an exercise in time wasting and I'm afraid 1,000 dollars wont even buy the first letter!
@888WulfDog888 IT IS THE ONLY THEORY... Intelligent Design and Creation are NOT SCIENTIFIC THEORIES, they are bullshit and have been thrown out of court, as NONE SCIENCE.
Tell me why 99% of scientists, even Theists agree with Evolution, yet you and Behe don't.
Refuting evidence is easily, you just claim it's wrong. Scientifically proving evidence is incorrect is much harder.
If there were one scientific fact which went against evolution the whole theory would tumble... but there isn't.
@xNoReligionx Well if intelligent design and creation are not scientific theories then why did Dawkins postulate one such on tv? Your 99% per cent figures are crap you have just pulled them out of thin air!
scientific refutation of evidence is not easy it must be done in an empirical manor with scientific proof.
The basis of your argument is that counter postulations creationism are invalid.
I postulate that the universe suddenly appeared over 6 days in its present state from another place!
@888WulfDog888 Your point about Dawkins is just dishonest quote mining, I know what he said, he said it's possible that an intelligence could have designed life but very unlikely.
My 99% figures are very accurate give or take 1%, what you really think that real scientists disagree with evolution... there are only a few behe's and they don't make 1%.
And NO ID and Creationism are definitely not science and the mere fact you think they are shows up your problem. lack of knowledge on the subject
@888WulfDog888 Sure if you want some point of reference I'll find it for you, but I'm stunned, do you really think that more than 1% of scientists disagree with evolution? Do you live under a rock or something?
Meanwhile, you might like to think about presenting some of you scientifically proven peer reviewed data which refutes the evidence for Evolution... it's OK just go to a creationist website and cut paste, then it will be over in 5 minutes :)
@xNoReligionx Who gave you the idea that the majority of scientists don't agree with evolution? You haven't been on those creationist websites again have you?
Right well, I'm sorry to rain on your parade, but Evolution is the best and only theory, and it has not been disproved as yet. In fact, quite the opposite, all the new findings point more and more strongly to Evolution being correct.
Please explain why we share 99.5% of our DNA with Chimps ( I can back that claim up BTW )
@888WulfDog888 Yes that's right, the arguments from creationism and ID are invalid, nobody in mainstream science would go near them, and they have been proven to be false in a court of law.. specifically the court ruled that they are NOT SCIENCE and therefore cannot be compared alongside the theory of evolution.
You can postulate that the earth was created in 6 days, but where is your empirical evidence....?
@888WulfDog888 I can't be bothered to post all the information I found on the percentage thing, but I got number from 97.8 to 99.8... obviously it depends on which particular discipline you are talking about and of course these figures are very subjective. The overwhelming sense though that one gets is that the "Majority of scientists agree with Evolution Science" I suggest you google "percentage of scientists who agree with evolution" or something similar.
@xNoReligionx "I can't be bothered" inability to back up claims with empirical data. Fallacious appeal to made up figures! see you later you waste my time with your religious nonsense, You are deluded and you should check the origins of this debate, there are two scientific philosophies operating on this planet buddy and yours is not the only one with empirical data and logic, in fact the one that I subscribe to has uncovered some dramatic data which numbers your days! and you don't even know!
@888WulfDog888 Well if you can't be bothered to check you stupid fallacious claims with a simple google search, then why should I bother. you are an idiot!
You are the one who is delusional you fucking assholes make me sick, you think that this religious shit gives you the right to re-write history, my God you are absolutely DISGUSTING.
Admit that you are a fucking moron, you know NOTHING ABOUT SCIENCE, You only care about you sick fucking religion, and you are a piece of shit!
@888WulfDog888 1. Of the scientists and engineers in the United States, only about 5% are creationists, according to a 1991 Gallup poll (Robinson 1995, Witham 1997). However, this number includes those working in fields not related to life origins (such as computer scientists, mechanical engineers, etc.).
@888WulfDog888 Disproving something like Evolution is not only allowed, it is part of the scientific process. Given that you don't understand that, you clearly don't understand what science is, which is why you believe a load of hacus pocus instead of the scientifically proven theory of evolution.
@xNoReligionx you are ignorant of the facts involved in this "scientific" process that you seem to have unfailing faith in. I put it to you that it is rigged and that empirical data has been bodged and erroneous calculations have knowingly been accepted into empirical knowledge. You sir a re a denialist of the highest order!
@888WulfDog888 This means that less than 0.15 percent of relevant scientists believe in creationism. And that is just in the United States, which has more creationists than any other industrialized country. In other countries, the number of relevant scientists who accept creationism drops to less than one tenth of 1 percent.
@888WulfDog888 You must be blind, oh wait you are religious no doubt.... same thing.
Imperial evidence lets see.
1. 99% of scientists agree with Evolution
2. The fossil record, if ID were true we'd see all the fossils appear at the same time all over the world, we don't
3. DNA, why is chimp DNA 99.5% similar to human DNA, and why does DNA show a clear progression through like species? Is God dishonest, did he make DNA conform with Evolution for fun...
@888WulfDog888 No I am really upset with you because I don't mind that you want to believe in you God, that's all fine with me. But that you want to have this Creationist, ID bullshit taught alongside REAL science like Evolution, so that kids get indoctrinated into your fucking shit... that really makes me angry!
Personally I think people like you are bordering on CRIMINAL and are abusive towards children, science and the furthermost of humanity in general.
@xNoReligionx There you have some evidence and there is piles of it out there, had you spent five minutes you could not help but trip over stacks of evidence the by far the majority of scientist disbelieve your BULLSHIT and follow evolution. Worse still when you get to the disciplines which matter, like biology the percentage goes over 99%.
@888WulfDog888 You come on here sneering at the scientist with you CHildish bullshit comments, when clearly you know nothing about the Truth except that which you have read on creationist ID bias websites.
You are a disgusting filthy cockroach with moral to match, no wonder if you get your morals from the morally bankrupt bible.
@888WulfDog888 You are the FUCKING MORON who only knows 5% of the facts, actually it's less than that.
You are a useless piece of turd... People like you are what brings the whole human race down. You are a liar, a Hippocratic, you dare to tell someone who has a scientific degree they don't know what they are talking about when you yourself DON't Even Know what Science is...
@xNoReligionx Perhaps if you have a scientific degree you should look into the fact that heat is NOT energy. If you are an honest scientist you will arrive at a startling conclusion that will shock you to the core. It may not turn you into a believer but it will certainly make you realize that you have been fed a red hearing. And you may even see what this means in relation to what is happening in the world at the moment. If not take the red pill and go on living the dream. Good bye
@xNoReligionx you obviously dont no much you think your related to a banana?? no evoluation is un proved and unprovable the only reason they believe it is because speacial creation is un thinkable. ienstien new that creationism took place the harmony of the cosmos, moral absalutes,order and desighn demands a desighner, love... you cant mesure a pound of love yet you no its there. repent and trust in christ and you will be saved
@sammy... I did read the bible. What is your point? It's fiction and full of nonsense.
Einsteinian99 3 weeks ago
uh huh, uh huh...x9,000
rach44w 1 month ago
if i had a pound for everytime the indian fella said 'uh huh' i'd be a millionaire.
'uh huh' - says the indian fella
rach44w 1 month ago
if there was a god, why would there be cancer in kids?
Einsteinian99 1 month ago
@Einsteinian99 read the bible
sammyjs1983 3 weeks ago in playlist Creation VS evolution
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@deadshot1995 And how do you know which are the teachings of Jesus (God) if you haven't read the bible? First you must inform yourself about this and then you may tell me that I did a bad thing by mocking evolutionists. Until then STFU!!!!!!!!!!
chris241289 2 months ago
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chris241289 2 months ago
All evolutionists can insert their "science" inside their assholes.
chris241289 2 months ago
@chris241289 I'm curious, was that something Jesus would have said?
deadshot1995 2 months ago
@deadshot1995 Why do you even care about that if you don't believe in Him?
chris241289 2 months ago
@chris241289 Actually, I HAVE read the Bible. Both Testaments actually. Personally I find the god you worship a vicious, mass-murdering, psychopathic dictator, but Jesus the man was quite kind and good-hearted.
He preached "loving your enemies." I don't know why you consider rational people your enemies, but if you do, you should not insult them because it's not Christian.
deadshot1995 2 months ago
@deadshot1995 Is it rational to think that you are the son of a monkey? You call this rational? I think your mom is proud for calling her a chimpanzee. And about that thing with "my god" being vicious and mass-murderer this is a bullshit you invented. My God is NOT as you described Him. And neither am I.
chris241289 2 months ago
@chris241289 Son of a monkey? Lol you clearly don't know a thing about evolution because that is not what it says. Your straw man argument makes you seem like a fool to be honest. As for you disagreeinjg that Yahweh is a vicious mass-murderer of a God, well that just means you haven't read the Old Testament, which gives us many examples. For example, I remember a verse in which children mocked a preacher's bald head, so your God sent wild bears to kill 42 of the children.
deadshot1995 2 months ago
@deadshot1995 I know about evolution enough. But you did not understand my JOKE about you being the son of a chimpanzee. And about that verse which says that some bears killed 42 children because God wanted so, I want you to know that the God who "killed" those children is actually Jesus Christ of the New Testament. It is not another God as you imagine. And why does this make you believe God is a psycho murderer? The children should know too that you are not allowed to mock God.
chris241289 2 months ago
@chris241289 They didn't mock God, they mocked a preacher. Okay, then what about when he killed every first born son in Egypt out of spite? Or when he had entire towns burned down and all their inhabitants killed just because a few people were worshiping other gods. Or when he drowned every nearly every living thing on Earth in a Flood, including children, babies and animals.
deadshot1995 2 months ago
@deadshot1995 Oh yeah? But what about :"Do I actually delight in the death of the wicked, declares the sovereign Lord? Do I not prefer that he turn from his wicked conduct and live?"? I have qouted a verse from Ezeckiel's book chapter 18. This is the same God that you consider wicked. Yeah, He did punish all those people but not with pleasure, but with a deep sorrow instead. In fact God Himself suffers when he "kills" someone.
chris241289 2 months ago
@deadshot1995 “But if a righteous man turns away from his righteousness and practices wrongdoing according to all the abominable practices the wicked carry out, will he live? All his righteous acts will not be remembered; because of the unfaithful acts he has done and the sin he has committed, he will die.". Here is another verse that proves that my God is right and kind hearted at the same time. Anyway mind your own business an leave me alone if you don't want to believe in God!
chris241289 2 months ago
@chris241289
If you were diagnosed with Stage 3 cancer - would you turn to medicine or would you pray to your GOD for a miracle? Why would you interfer with GOD's plan? If GOD wants you dead...then why interfer? Afterall, you've got a lovely, warm heaven to look forward to - where you can spend eternity with dad, family, friends and pets. Assuming they join you that is....
Your position is so weak. Most people are unconvinced GOD exists. To talk of GOD as 'My GOD' is just rediculous.
DIGITALSCREAMS 1 month ago
@DIGITALSCREAMS I would do both. I would go to medicine and I would also pray to God to help me. God does not want me to die. I have to fight for my life and health being with everything I can.
chris241289 1 month ago
@chris241289 if god exists he would be all loving and want what is best for his people so he would not cause natural disasters.he would be all powerful so no matter how great an evil such as a child with an incurable disease he would be able to stop it. he would be all knowing so he would no off the suffering off people and he loves them so he would try to stop it he is all powerful so he would be able to. However he dosent and that is why the god Christians believe cannot exist (evolution ftw)
xRUBIXNOOB 1 month ago in playlist More videos from empiricist43537
@chris241289
Why did GOD create you with nipples?
DIGITALSCREAMS 1 month ago
Same old creationist arguments
SuperJakeproductions 2 months ago
universal flood WTF
xmenprince 2 months ago in playlist Más videos de empiricist43537
i cant believe people are pushing their religion into public schools, that means you need to allow every religion/cult to be taught their side in public schools in order for it to be fair.
youngs1ncere 2 months ago
When scientists don't have the answer yet, they say "we don't have the answer yet, but we're working on it". Creationists say "godditit". Fucking stupid. And WTF was with that remark about chinese and latin monkeys? Did this guy EVER go to school?
8698gil 3 months ago
Religion does not belong in public schools. Religion is not science, its a belief system. How can you teach one religion in a public school and not another? Would these creationists agree to teach Islam and Hinduism along with Christianity as valid alternatives to evolution? Of course they wouldn't. Because they just "know" they are right. Sorry, but you're wrong. Grow up, stop acting like five year olds who need a parent all their lives for guidance.
8698gil 3 months ago
IF we did come from monkey i dont know what to say i mean, almost all monkeys look the same. When it comes to humans im not sure if there was white monkeys or chineese monkey or latin monkeys but the fact all race came from a monkey is diffrerent. Maybe if science explained DNA was mixed with monkeys and thats how we came is different. The real truth isnt here with all these questins we have everyday.
trigg3r305 3 months ago
@trigg3r305 you're a complete moron to think that we came from monkeys. Evolution says that both humans and monkeys came from a COMMON ANCESTOR. we couldn't had evolved from monkeys because monkeys are a present evolved species.
p3rUvIaNSoLdI3r 3 months ago
@trigg3r305 also there are different kinds of monkeys dumbass, like the spider monkey, the mandril, the squirrel monkey and so on. Not to get confused and say these evolved into humans cuz they didn't. And wtf is a Latin monkey? if you're talking about your pressumed assumption that spanish speakin people of the americas evolved from a 'latin' monkey, latino is not a race but an ethnicity. not only do you not know science but you're cluless about history.
p3rUvIaNSoLdI3r 3 months ago
Love how fair and balanced the host was.
attitudinous 3 months ago
Love how fair and balanced the host was.
attitudinous 3 months ago
Creationists cannot prove their god is the real god and others is not real god.
Creationists seems to have only 1 answer for things they do not know.
smellyfry 3 months ago
Just because there are many things we still do not know or cannot see does not mean God Exists. Creationists are using this loophole.
At most, they should say God Maybe Exist.
To be fair, Evolutionists should also now only say, Maybe we evolved from monkeys.
The fact that 2 intelligent humans are debating on this shows there is BIAS in thinking.
smellyfry 3 months ago
Every religious believer believes their god is the real God and others are not real.
So, who is right?
Why is the word Believe used ?
Why not call it Truth?
U See?
smellyfry 3 months ago
Creationists arguement boils down to : Its complex, it hurts my brain to think about it, therefore a God must have done it.
jontibloom 3 months ago
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The comment made by Francis Crick relates clearly to the origin of life. It is irrelevant to the debate about Evolution. Such techniques highlight the lengths creationists will go to in order to cloud the position of evolutionary science. I suppose it's the only thing they can do!
neobiognosis 4 months ago
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neobiognosis 4 months ago
mhm, mhm, mhm, mhmm, yep, mhmm hm, mhmmhmhmhm, mhm, mhm, mhm, yes, absolutely yes
confess5 4 months ago 2
@confess5 Yeah, that was really annoying.
martinbondesson 3 months ago
God. You're FIRED!
bryanttillman 4 months ago
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According to Wikipedia, science is defined as "(from Latin: scientia meaning "knowledge") is a systematic enterprise that builds and organizes knowledge in the form of testable explanations and predictions about the universe". If no one can recreate or reproduce the beginning of life and the universe as we know it in modern day in order to test it and prove it, then evolution needs to not be considered science as no monkeys have transformed into humans and no big bang.Mutation isn't evolution
tip862 5 months ago
According to Wikipedia, science is defined as "(from Latin: scientia meaning "knowledge") is a systematic enterprise that builds and organizes knowledge in the form of testable explanations and predictions about the universe". If no one can recreate or reproduce the beginning of life and the universe as we know it in modern day in order to test it and prove it, then evolution needs to not be considered science as no monkeys have transformed into humans and no big bang. Mutation isn't evolution
tip862 5 months ago
@tip862 Very flawed logic here. Can anyone on Earth recreate you? No? Does that mean your birth cannot be explained and it not need be a part of the science of biology? Can anyone reproduce a blood splatter pattern in a crime scene? No? Then does that mean the forensic expert cannot explain how it happened?
By the way, your understanding of evolution is flat out wrong. No where in the evolutionary theory does it state that humans evolved from monkeys.
iz2sicc 4 months ago in playlist bible-tube.com creation evolution debates
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@iz2sicc The difference is that we observe human reproduction every day and we can have children and so there is no need to theorize anything as to how people got here, as the process continues. My point is that evolutionists cannot explain how out of nothing (meaning, no use of raw materials that are already here) they can produce life or a chain reaction of events. We know that a baby is created from the combination of the egg and sperm already present in its parents, already there.
tip862 4 months ago
@tip862 How do you think all of what you just described was discovered? THROUGH SCIENTIFIC THEORIES. It was science that discovered that. Before then, people believed that pregnancy was some type of mythical event. Women were killed for not birthing a son by many leaders. Before science, these leaders did not understand that it's the man's sperm that determines sex. Evolution has been observed. Plenty of evidence has been found. Fish with legs, dinosaurs with feathers. But you refute all this.
iz2sicc 4 months ago
@iz2sicc As far as the monkey theory goes, there are many evolutionists who believe that humans and monkeys share the same ancestors, so what is flawed is evolutionists agreeing on how we all got here. Theories are not facts, b/c real facts don't change. The entire split atom phenomenon answered scientists who didn't believe there were smaller particles than the atom itself. Creationists understand that God IS before anyone "was" and God DID before anyone "does".Scientists are just catching up.
tip862 4 months ago
@tip862 Theories are not fact. No branch of science claims this. That is an Error of Fact on your part. There are some things in this world that can never be proven/disproven. That does not mean there are very plausible theories. A solid theory is backed by evidence. Evolution has a mind blowing amount of evidence to back it. It has also had the power to predict further substantiating the theory. And facts do change. A ball is inflated FACT. The same ball deflated FACT. I call that a change.
iz2sicc 4 months ago
@iz2sicc That's not an example of a FACT changing, but rather an example of a state of motion changing or a state of matter changing, or state of position.They're all facts surrounding that item, such as: the water froze and turned into ice, then the ice melted and changed into water, then the water was heated and changed into steam..these are all facts about one item & it's called a process. But we know regardless of the states that it's still WATER. Just as embryo, to fetus to baby, etc..
tip862 4 months ago
@tip862 You're flat out wrong. That IS fact changing. It is also a state of motion/matter changing as well. The two aren't mutually exclusive. Fact: The magnetic poles shift. Are you suggesting our current compasses aren't factually correct? Will you call that a state of change? You are picking and choosing what parts of science to believe in. When it comes to your religion, you deny anything scientific. But when it comes to your daily life, you put trust in science. IRRATIONAL
iz2sicc 4 months ago
@iz2sicc This will be my last comment regarding this b/c it's useless debating an issue that's so clear. According to your logic, whenever something changes, shifts, moves, etc.. then the previous condition has been negated. Your hair was wet, now it's dry. The fact that it's now dry doesn't mean that it wasn't previously wet... Both are facts about that object. A true example of a "fact change", a.k.a LIE, is someone saying 1+1=3 and records it. Later, someone corrects that & says really =2.
tip862 4 months ago
@tip862 Nowhere in my explanation does it imply that my logic says whenever something changes the previous condition is negated. Do you not understand what "NOT MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE" means? That is not the fault of my explanation, it is the fault of your lack of comprehension. Therefore, everything you just said is negated. 1+1=2 is a fact that doesn't change. A shift in the magnetic poles is a fact that is changing. Where do you get that I'm implying a previous condition is negated for ALL facts?
iz2sicc 4 months ago
@tip862 And don't speak to me about logic when you believe in stories like Noah's Ark. Don't talk about logic when you believe a magic being created the universe, but nothing created it. Your belief system is a complete lie. Coincidentally (not really), 1+1=3 is a perfect example of the type of logic you creationists use.
iz2sicc 4 months ago
@tip862 By the way, you wouldn't dare do half of the things to your own child that God does to all his children. And you call your God a loving, moral being? I suggest you re-examine your own morals if you would allow your child to starve because you place faith in mankind to take care of the child for you. Take a deep look at yourself if you would allow your child to be raped and tortured by people who claim to be doing it for you. And you speak about my logic being flawed. Please...
iz2sicc 4 months ago
@tip862 I truly feel bad for you overtly religious. You people are completely blinded by faith. You claim to see God in the beauty of the world, but what you don't realize is that you're missing the TRUE beauty of the Universe because of your narrow mindedness. You put your faith in God and give him credit for human morals. Pity, as I see the beauty of being an animal that is capable of contemplating morals. The Universe is beautiful in it's poetic chaos. But you religious don't see that. Sad.
iz2sicc 4 months ago
@iz2sicc God doesn't change, evolutionary theories do. Regardless of what evolutionists say, evolution is NOT science, it is a religion. They put their belief or Faith in some man-made theory that they have not personally seen, observed or tested.Yes magnetic poles shift, people gain weight, climates change, so what..?! Real science is being able to make real observations and testing out data of which all of these are examples. When you can't that's where some form of faith comes in.
tip862 4 months ago
@tip862 Evolution is not a religion. Quit getting your information from creationist garbage. Evolution does not have a church. Evolution does not knock on your door to convert you... oh excuse me, I mean save you. Evolution doesn't base beliefs on faith with a complete lack of evidence. You want to talk about man-made theory? WTF do you think the bible is? You think GOD WROTE IT? Bullshit. It was written by the hands of man.
iz2sicc 4 months ago
@tip862 You seem to have this fixation on the term "observed". Let's roll with that. Science in fact has observed theories like the Big Bang. INDIRECTLY. There are tons of evidence for the aftermath of the big bang. You really think that you have to actually observe a big bang for it to be fact? What an ignorant life you lead. Did you observe the Pyramids around the world being built? No? I guess they were never built by humans then. Just POOF! Magic.
iz2sicc 4 months ago
@iz2sicc Also, data changes are not fact changes. How else would a scientist be able to measure anything without them? Changes in the measurement of a testable object does not qualify it as a fact change b/c it's comparing the difference between what it USED to be (fact), and what it currently IS (also fact). No facts are changing, just the data updates. I pray for you & all evolutionists who deny God that He will draw you to Him and the truth, and will repent and accept Him!! Sincerely!!
tip862 4 months ago
@tip862 Now you're talking about measurements? Good Spaghetti Monster, take your head out of your ass. USED to be fact means it is no longer fact, but was fact at one point. Where in there is it not a fact change? And don't you dare fucking pray for me. If your prayers do anything (which they don't), then save it for those that need it like all of those children suffering in third world countries. I am not as selfish as you and if God were real, I would never selfishly ask him for help. ARROGANT
iz2sicc 4 months ago
@tip862 By the way, I doubt you knew this, but let me point it out anyway. Jupiter has been in our night sky for over a week now. It's the biggest brightest star in the night sky. You can't miss it. Grab a telescope if you can, I wish I had one... You will be able to see the magnificence of Jupiter with one. This is the beauty of science. Something you will not be aware of if you bury your head in a book that was authored by many men.
iz2sicc 4 months ago
Has Tom DeRosa ever seriously studied evolution?
MrWagman11 5 months ago
Intelligent Design is not science.
MrWagman11 5 months ago
hhmmm hmmm x 642 times... lol great tactic ! haha
jammapcb 5 months ago
mmhhm
Triipticz 5 months ago
hm-hmm
gzagenius3211 5 months ago
is it rational to teach children that grandpa is a soup?
ikawpipa 5 months ago
This debate is not even. The creationist guy is a complete idiot. They are all idiots but this guy is manages to speak while he is having an mental electric fire. "Time magazine used the word imagine, thats not science" (so nani nani boo boo teach creationism too). The SCIENTIST made an excellent point about not finding rabbits in the Cambrian fossil layer . ID ass hole says it coulda been a flood. A FLOOD? 1. thats religion and 2. a flood could never EVER mix trilobites with contemporary bones
Johnf85 5 months ago
Why do so many people (including the panel in this video) keep talking about the origins of life?
That is not what the theory of evolution is about.
Evolution explains how existing life forms change gradually over time as a rsesult of natural selection. It does not attempt to explain first cause.
Creationism maintains that life forms were essentially created more or less complete and in the form we find them today.
TheSmithDorian 5 months ago
Denying creationism is like children attempting to explain away their parents. It would be like observing all of the architecture, paintings, and various designs made by men from years ago and then denying that man ever created them, but somehow out of thin air a spontaneous event occurred that magically created something that spectacular and complex creation. To believe that out of Nothing came Everything and out of randomness came order, that takes more blind "faith" than religion.
tip862 5 months ago
@tip862 Using your reasoning, then I guess God somehow came from nothing.
MrWagman11 5 months ago
@MrWagman11 I'm not sure how you drew that conclusion from what I said, but it's not that God came from nothing, Rather that God has always been! He didn't Come From, instead He Brought Forth!! He wasn't created... as He is the Creator of all things. The architect of the universe!
tip862 5 months ago
@tip862 Now that's very convenient isn't it. God didn't come from anything He's always been. So when creationists argue that something can't come from nothing, they added a loophole. That doesn't apply to God because God has always been. You Christians just keep fooling yourselves.
MrWagman11 5 months ago
@MrWagman11 The big bang theory, what started that? I mean, evolutionists can't explain what caused that, but they just have "faith" that "something" started it... outta what they can't say. To just believe what the Bible states that God is the great "I Am" answers it so definitively. However, people who chose to deny His existence will believe that some inanimate object created everything, to not have to answer to a higher authority than themselves. As intricate as we are, they still deny.
tip862 5 months ago
@tip862 There's nothing wrong with saying you don't know how the universe started. Just because all the answers aren't known doesn't mean a God did it.
MrWagman11 5 months ago
@MrWagman11 And it doesn't mean that a God did NOT do it either! God has already shown his existence in creation itself and the wise man will know the truth. He will make Himself known to you if you are open to receive Him.
tip862 5 months ago
@tip862 And, yes, it doesn't mean that a god did not do it. Bring on some credible evidence.
MrWagman11 5 months ago
@MrWagman11 I have ALL the evidence I need. Human life, design of the human body, animal life, life cycles, climatic cycles, mountains, trees, birds, bees, solar system, etc..However, evolutionists will never believe the evidence that God has so plainly laid out for everyone to see. They're too humanistic for that. Unless a "superman", demi-god, scientist states that it's a fact, they will continue to deny what's evident or at least admit to not knowing. Pleading ignorance won't be excusable.
tip862 5 months ago
@tip862 Good for you.
MrWagman11 4 months ago
according to modern day science big bang is the cause of all pain and sufferings in earth. haven't there been a big bang there would be no earth no pain and suffering. science cant just say that big bang happened from nothingness. there was a supreme force to trigger that bang so evolutionist cant just say evolution evolution and evolution. and i think its foolish for a modern day human to say god created adam and eve from adam's ribs. so i guess they must find the common grounds in each other..
0C8 6 months ago
@0C8 thats the stupidest statement ever uttered. 1. the big bang isnt the cause of pain its the cause of life. 2. couldnt i say god causes pain the same way you say the big bang does. 3. the big bang didnt decide to happen it happened that is all to it. 4. the bing bang doesnt say it came from nothingness that just shows how much you dont know, it says its an exspantion of matter that WAS ALREADY THERE. 5. even if evolution was false your god still wouldnt be proven. 6. we did keep it out.
emanrulez1 6 months ago
there is life so there is pain. u r right the bigbang didnt decide to happen but u cant just simply say it happened there was someone or something to mak it hapen i agree bigbang was an expenssion but the scientist doesnt say matter that was already there which means u r following steady state theory which science dosnt reckon. yes i do follow evolution as well as creation. first there was creation later evolution took place. if earth was not created how can u prove evolution to take place????
0C8 6 months ago
@0C8 you see you say created as if everything has to be created. do you know that its possible to make something from nothing? it happened we made life from non living materials. so if it is possible to make something from nothing then couldnt we theories that maybe thats how we got here? from nothing? im not claiming thats how but while you sit there saying everything needs to be created or have a creator im telling you no it doesnt. its ben proven that you dont. also science does say that. ->
emanrulez1 6 months ago
@emanrulez1 evolution is corect bcoz science have prove it but sayin wat hapen before the big bang is not a good question to ask saying so we cant just leave the question unanswered, do we?tats the mystery we want to decode the man on the vid speaks abit of string theory which is just a theory have never been practically proven theoretically he was correct. lets just hope string theory gets to its conclusion fast so we all hav the ans was universe created or was it there from beginning of time.
0C8 5 months ago
@emanrulez1 i am an atheist who dont believ in god of prayers i just hav 0 ida what magical and mythological god is or are. i mean to say everything must have its beginning. every living organism was a sperm which was created. by saying so i don mean to ignore the facts about evolution theory which has been verified but evolution we look is solely based on earth. science is lame without religion and religion is blind without science. not every science is corect and not every religion is perfect.
0C8 5 months ago
@0C8 look ive told you before we have showed that it wouldnt require a god to make living materials. we have showed things evolved and just cause we cant tell you exactly how we got here is irrelevant to the proof we already showed. you keep saying why couldnt a god have done it. i ask you what is our definition of a god.
emanrulez1 5 months ago
@emanrulez1 Albert Einstein - "I want to know how God created this world. I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know his thoughts. The rest are details." his last attempt was to make an equation which could explain everything. that quest has now become a string theory. he was an atheist, but what god was he referring what was his definition on god then? i have repeatedly said that i dont belive in god of prayers.
0C8 5 months ago in playlist Creation VS evolution
@0C8 and i asked you what is your definition of a god? what is it. is it an all powerful been is it just a supreme been what is your definition of a god. i did not ask you ur religion.
emanrulez1 5 months ago
@emanrulez1 I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with the fates and actions of human beings. A. Einstein.
and i have never said my religion to u and the term god is yet to be known and tested. since science cannot test god's existence we cannot say god is not there. science evolves, the things in 1700s are proven wrong in 1800s and so on. so till now i do believe in what einstein have to say about god.
0C8 5 months ago
@0C8 you say he cant be tested by science your god who exist in harmony with us its more like your saying even if he was to exist then itd be impossible to know. since it would be impossible to know by your definition whats the point in believeing? by your definition your god doesnt do anything and if he did itd be impossible to know. so i say dont you feel thats a little to convient? i mean cmon now it seems like a cop out. oh its there you just cant find out in anyway. seems funny?
emanrulez1 5 months ago
@emanrulez1 u r completely right my friend. and i m not trying to convince my thoughts to u as well. creation VS evolution has been a huge debate since evolution theory came forward. and what i dont like is that the creationist have always put a mythological god forward. and evolutionist looks solely on the aspect of earth. and saying from nothing came something. physics is all abt logic and proving things and i see no way they fit into the physics system.
0C8 5 months ago
@0C8 and yes they may have theories but the theories become scientific once proven. and human civilization has been all this way advanced because we have a curiosity and power of imagination. what really drags us is them. and god is one thing we really want to know. u said we dont know and whats a point believing in god, thats not how a true scientific man looks or views things. and i have never know how a living thing can be made from nothing as u said to do dat would take a magical god i guess
0C8 5 months ago
@0C8 i told you it has been proven by scientist that living material came from nothing. no it is not a magical god. it happens by completly scientific reasons. organically . you admitted yourself that we dont and cant possibly understand him. and if he was there itd be impossible to know so im saying if thats the standards of your god then what is the point of believeing in him? you pretty much saying not only is he completely useless but impossible to know if exist. so whats the point?
emanrulez1 5 months ago
@emanrulez1 find me name of the scientist. life doesnt mean cloned must be natural formed. what i know is life can only create life. but i m not denying evolution. 4 fundamental forces of nature gravity, emf, nuclear weak and strong. what was before that and who made it? it is not the point of believing, question is about finding n discovering. and to be honest hes not useless hes completely useless, there comes Darwin evolution theory. coz if someone starve he is not there to feed them.
0C8 5 months ago
@0C8 watch?v=mXkc7ToYsTI&feature=related your argument in a nutshell. but by your own definition he is unknowable am i making a mistake cause your yet to correct me. your asking the wrong question it isnt who but how. how did this come to be. when you see a rock laying someplace you dont say who you say how did this rock come here but your saying who made this rock come here. Abiogenesis btw it isnt one scientist its multiple. look it up.
emanrulez1 5 months ago
@emanrulez1 the man on the phone put beautiful question with a personal god being the creator for which the host of the program hung up just coz they cannot make him believe their opinion. that was obvious coz creation vs evolution is really hard thing to tackle on few mins of fone call. and about the credit giving, when man first landed the moon that was the success of whole humanity not of a personal god. coz god i believe in doesnt concerns himself with the fates and actions of human beings.
0C8 5 months ago in playlist Creation VS evolution
@0C8 so when i asked what type of god you believed in you should have said a been thats all powerful that doesnt concern itself with us. so your personal god you made up.(hate personal gods) to account for creation.(which i explained to you that we have explanations for it.) ok let me ask you this tell me what god you believe in tell me all you believe in this god what he dos yotta yotta etc. i wanna get down to what type of god you believe in exactly. dont with hold any info.
emanrulez1 5 months ago
@emanrulez1 have a peek at this video friend real Phd Physicist saying their views and i do respect them for what they are trying to do. youtube.com/watch?v=wHHz4mB9GKY&feature=related
0C8 5 months ago in playlist Creation VS evolution
@0C8 youtube.com/watch?v=wHHz4mB9GKY sorry this one
0C8 5 months ago
@0C8 so what would be the point in even believeing in such a god? you by your own definition made him impossible for anyone to understand or know him so i will say this with much respect but that is a dumb way of looking at it. cause it seems more like you just made a personal god and want to believe because you want to. ive discussed personal gods before with people who like to bend the rules but your not like that. so ill ask you what reason do you have to believe in this god?
emanrulez1 5 months ago
@emanrulez1 greatest scientist of 1800s Lord Kelvin said "anything heavier then air cannot fly". plane was a mystery in those days. and the term god is the biggest mystery we want find. the term god is not a personal god or mythological god it is just a mystery, that our curious mind wants to decode. its in human nature we want more and more and friend today science is not advance to leave saying o.k. we now know everythin. fren ill continue to belive in that mystery untill it is decoded.
0C8 5 months ago
@0C8 wow a 1800 scientist was wrong about something. i dont think he ment it in the context you have stated cause birds are heavier but still fly. you didnt need to be a scientist to know that. ok any scientist will admit that hey we dont know everything but to throw your hands in the air and say a god must have done it is insulting to everything we worked on.(how?) cause then it becomes whether or not were smart or god made us smart. people have and will give god all the credit.
emanrulez1 5 months ago
@emanrulez1 with all respect to lord kelvin, science at his time was not that forward. so we cant say him wrong. the questions about how,who,why n when, friend they are philosophical things. where as the question how and when tend to be scientific den the question why. example> how was a building created, when was it created, who created, and why was it created. u can have a definite ans for how and when but for the question why u can only have your opinion unless and until u know who.
0C8 5 months ago in playlist Creation VS evolution
@0C8 yes but again your asking a question that assumes a creator. im not sure if i told you that hey we dont need a creator cause matter can come from nothing. now the correct question is how. because you have not shown we need a creator. we have an answer for when or atleast a good one around 16 billion years was it?
emanrulez1 5 months ago
@emanrulez1 how can matter come fro nothing ?
MrDJMISAEL 5 months ago
@MrDJMISAEL it has ben shown under exsperiments that matter can come from nothing. none living matter can also make living matter. just look it up if your interested there are a few videos on youtube bout it.
emanrulez1 5 months ago
@emanrulez1, nothing can come out of nothing, in order for something to come out of nothing, it must be before it was. and this invalids the law of non- contradiction that says that a can not be a not a in at the same time and in the same relationship. in other words i can not be and not be at the same time and in the same relatiosnhip. you can not answer my question and not answer my question at the same time. If you fallow that path of thought your not talking about science but of magic.
MrDJMISAEL 5 months ago
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@emanrulez1, nothing can come out of nothing, in order for something to come out of nothing, it must be before it was. and this invalids the law of non- contradiction that says that a can not be a not a in at the same time and in the same relationship. in other words i can not be and not be at the same time and in the same relatiosnhip. you can not answer my question and not answer my question at the same time. If you fallow that path of thought your not talking about science but of magic.
MrDJMISAEL 5 months ago
@0C8 and yes friend i have never said evolution is wrong. because science have proven with facts and figures so denying them is a stupid thing. But before evolution take place there must be a creation for evolution to evolve. imagine u r a painter and u have a tools necessary to paint and finally u have painted a beautiful picture. in that scenario u become a creator the tools become a things necessary for evolution and the picture u painted evolved in a complete beautiful picture.
0C8 5 months ago
both evolution and creation are right in their own ways. of course god didnt create plants n animals, they were the product of million of years of evolution in which evolution come forward. but question comes who helped in evolving those plants and animal thats god. he/she/it build the universe planets lights which helped in evolution process. (god doesn't refer the god of prayers like Jehovah or the Allah or any god. thats a supreme force well unknown to modern science ). only my view.hehehehe
0C8 6 months ago
@0C8 heres a link my friend.ht tp://ww w.yo utube.co m/wat ch?v=A NtpsunRYIs this is a great explamation pretty much telling you what the big bang is feel free to check out his other vids there good. also your saying you god was always there so couldnt i say energy was always there too? cause then youd go in a loop with who created your god. also it would fit with the laws of nature since nothing can be created or destroyed.
emanrulez1 6 months ago
the old guy is an idiot
CarlSagan6 6 months ago
If life needs an intelligent designer then that designer needs a designer of it. And that needs a designer and so on.
jeremythehuman 6 months ago
@jeremythehuman , When we talk about an eternal designer, we are not talking about a being which created itself or a being that came out of nothing, or that was created. but We refer to a being which has the power of being within himself, that can not,not be. who has always existed, and will continue to exist becouse that being is not dependadandt on anyhting outside of himself. and this does not invalid any law of logic whatsoever.
MrDJMISAEL 5 months ago
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@MrDJMISAEL There is no evidence whatsoever of an eternal designer.
jeremythehuman 5 months ago
@MrDJMISAEL yes it does ... its called anti-logic ... you presume it can exist! ... when if we are honest we just do not know... simplz!
jammapcb 5 months ago
@MrDJMISAEL
"we are not talking about a being which created itself or a being that came out of nothing, or that was created"
Something I have been 'schooled' on by creationists is that there are only two alternatives. Sentient entities either got here via the evolutionary process or by a process of design and hence disputing evolution, they feel, demonstrates their own position.
So what about your sentient entity, your eternal designer, which of these two possibilities is it?
noelplum99 5 months ago
This is obviously a biased interview. That quote about the origin of life being a miracle is evidense of the gang up going on here. 1) it's not science it's just a quote of an opinion, there is no evidence or fact to back that up 2) he's not referencing god or creationism just the statistical improbability behind life itself. Also the fact that they've picked an evolutionist with a thick indian accent making his points harder to understand also the host doesn't question the idiot design guy
youbetzler 6 months ago
ONe more thing is the idea of a creationist is interesting to the young mind. its actually a good story.. but its just another way to control the minds of the American people,. you know spread this whole GOD bullshit.. in science my GOD is the SUN its what keeps us alive.....
TyeDye07 6 months ago
GOD condricts himself. he said he created everything in his image and that everything we do in life is predestined and/or predetermained . it was already planned... so if thats the case. why would you leave the ones you created to rely on faith in you. you say its a test,. you cant test something if you already programmed its duties. and you know the outcome because your in control of what happens... O_o
TyeDye07 6 months ago
Wow, a scientist used the word imagine three times in a popular magazine article. That must mean that the theory of evolution is completely imaginary. Here I thought that it was based on over 150 years of accumulated evidence, but nope, a scientist said imagine three times. Oh well, rewrite the textbooks.
Everstruggling 6 months ago
mhmm mhmm mhmm mhmm. OMG SHUT THE FUCK UP
hiphopfreak31 6 months ago
creationism owned this debate
mamainmancj 6 months ago
us being here is a miracle mericles do happen.creation proves there is a creator to say that a bmw happend by accident would be madness just like saying everthing comes from nothing. jesus bleed and died on a cross for yours sins so you could be forgiven repent and trust in christ and you will be saved
mamainmancj 6 months ago
mmmhmmm mmhmm mmmm mhmmm right mmmhmm mhmm right mmmmhmmm.
TradeMark2003 6 months ago
more over, why would the simple life be at the bottom and the complex life be at the top?
ThorTheOdinSon 6 months ago
lmao, " the flood put them in that order " why would they date in order than? How does 1 flood that lasted almost a full year rearrange the entire fossil record? How do people even listen to this without laughing let alone believe it.
ThorTheOdinSon 6 months ago
Time magazine ... had an article, ... christ where do they find these people!?!
PiskieBenWa 6 months ago
m hm m hm m hm m hm m hm clenched fist beady little eyes ha ha ha ha he looked like he wanted to punch that poor dude. What a rude little man, arrogance is symptomatic of the Darwinian devote! Ooo look at me I have empirical knowledge, In an educated dumbass ha ha ha ha the more scientific these guys get the less they know ha ha ha ha ha ha ha because they actually force themselves into ignorance they dont even know 5% off the facts in the universe ha ha ha ha how ironic
888WulfDog888 6 months ago
@888WulfDog888 That's fine... Evolution is fact, there is no scientific evidence which disproves Evolution, so I'm willing to make a bet with you. If you can present ANY scientific evidence which disproves that Evolution is correct and true, I'll give you 1,000 Dollars.
On the other hand, ID, Creationism has ben thrown out by a US court of law and labeled as "Not Science"
You FAIL!
xNoReligionx 6 months ago
@xNoReligionx yes there is! riddle me this. What was the edorgonic process that created the free biological energy energy required to sustain the exergonic process in the first organism? Or this mysterious blob of snot you so called "scientific" people keep gob smacking on about! and dont say the sun because without the rest of the equation the sun would have just cooked everything. What came first the chicken or the egg?
888WulfDog888 6 months ago
@888WulfDog888 Did you get an education? Were you sick when they taught Evolution? Or don't they teach you proper science where you are?
xNoReligionx 6 months ago
@xNoReligionx and if your going to crook on about how evolution is not interested in the how it all started then remember this; an organism can only feed of itself for so long before it will die (I'm being very generous here and allowing you the absurdity that it could even begin without it, yea right!), it requires free (organic) energy from endorgonic process in the environment.
888WulfDog888 6 months ago
@888WulfDog888 Well why would I want to point out the fact that evolution is nothing to do with abiogenesis when you already know that.
Evolution is just the best theory which explains how life evolved from single cell creatures to more complex one's. It is a very strong theory with no scientific evidence to the contrary. ID on the other hans is just wishful thinking :)
xNoReligionx 6 months ago
@xNoReligionx Its not the best theory, it is not strong and it has many flaws, only people that are indoctrinated in a process of conformity can believe these so called "evidences"! Please treat myself and others who reject this theory on the basis of empirical evidence with the respect due.
888WulfDog888 6 months ago
@888WulfDog888 It's the ONLY theory and it has tons of evidence, in fact I'm willing to bet you 1,000 dollars that you can't produce scientific evidence which disproves Evolution... I'm serious, if you think that Evolution is a weak theory, then you should be able to crush it easily and earn some cash at the same time.
Good luck with that by the way :)
xNoReligionx 6 months ago
@xNoReligionx It is NOT the only theory and you know as well as I do that disproving something that is this embedded into the sciences is NOT ALLOWED. The "tons" of evidence is refuted on every scale and point by scientists who have empirical knowledge and logic as well. Your proposition is one of an exercise in time wasting and I'm afraid 1,000 dollars wont even buy the first letter!
888WulfDog888 6 months ago
@888WulfDog888 IT IS THE ONLY THEORY... Intelligent Design and Creation are NOT SCIENTIFIC THEORIES, they are bullshit and have been thrown out of court, as NONE SCIENCE.
Tell me why 99% of scientists, even Theists agree with Evolution, yet you and Behe don't.
Refuting evidence is easily, you just claim it's wrong. Scientifically proving evidence is incorrect is much harder.
If there were one scientific fact which went against evolution the whole theory would tumble... but there isn't.
xNoReligionx 6 months ago
@xNoReligionx Well if intelligent design and creation are not scientific theories then why did Dawkins postulate one such on tv? Your 99% per cent figures are crap you have just pulled them out of thin air!
scientific refutation of evidence is not easy it must be done in an empirical manor with scientific proof.
The basis of your argument is that counter postulations creationism are invalid.
I postulate that the universe suddenly appeared over 6 days in its present state from another place!
888WulfDog888 6 months ago
@888WulfDog888 Your point about Dawkins is just dishonest quote mining, I know what he said, he said it's possible that an intelligence could have designed life but very unlikely.
My 99% figures are very accurate give or take 1%, what you really think that real scientists disagree with evolution... there are only a few behe's and they don't make 1%.
And NO ID and Creationism are definitely not science and the mere fact you think they are shows up your problem. lack of knowledge on the subject
xNoReligionx 6 months ago
@xNoReligionx produce your data re: 99% of scientists believe in evolution
888WulfDog888 6 months ago
@888WulfDog888 Sure if you want some point of reference I'll find it for you, but I'm stunned, do you really think that more than 1% of scientists disagree with evolution? Do you live under a rock or something?
Meanwhile, you might like to think about presenting some of you scientifically proven peer reviewed data which refutes the evidence for Evolution... it's OK just go to a creationist website and cut paste, then it will be over in 5 minutes :)
xNoReligionx 6 months ago
@xNoReligionx Who gave you the idea that the majority of scientists don't agree with evolution? You haven't been on those creationist websites again have you?
Right well, I'm sorry to rain on your parade, but Evolution is the best and only theory, and it has not been disproved as yet. In fact, quite the opposite, all the new findings point more and more strongly to Evolution being correct.
Please explain why we share 99.5% of our DNA with Chimps ( I can back that claim up BTW )
xNoReligionx 6 months ago
@888WulfDog888 Yes that's right, the arguments from creationism and ID are invalid, nobody in mainstream science would go near them, and they have been proven to be false in a court of law.. specifically the court ruled that they are NOT SCIENCE and therefore cannot be compared alongside the theory of evolution.
You can postulate that the earth was created in 6 days, but where is your empirical evidence....?
FAIL!
xNoReligionx 6 months ago
@888WulfDog888 I can't be bothered to post all the information I found on the percentage thing, but I got number from 97.8 to 99.8... obviously it depends on which particular discipline you are talking about and of course these figures are very subjective. The overwhelming sense though that one gets is that the "Majority of scientists agree with Evolution Science" I suggest you google "percentage of scientists who agree with evolution" or something similar.
xNoReligionx 6 months ago
@xNoReligionx "I can't be bothered" inability to back up claims with empirical data. Fallacious appeal to made up figures! see you later you waste my time with your religious nonsense, You are deluded and you should check the origins of this debate, there are two scientific philosophies operating on this planet buddy and yours is not the only one with empirical data and logic, in fact the one that I subscribe to has uncovered some dramatic data which numbers your days! and you don't even know!
888WulfDog888 6 months ago
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@888WulfDog888 Well if you can't be bothered to check you stupid fallacious claims with a simple google search, then why should I bother. you are an idiot!
You are the one who is delusional you fucking assholes make me sick, you think that this religious shit gives you the right to re-write history, my God you are absolutely DISGUSTING.
Admit that you are a fucking moron, you know NOTHING ABOUT SCIENCE, You only care about you sick fucking religion, and you are a piece of shit!
xNoReligionx 6 months ago
@888WulfDog888 1. Of the scientists and engineers in the United States, only about 5% are creationists, according to a 1991 Gallup poll (Robinson 1995, Witham 1997). However, this number includes those working in fields not related to life origins (such as computer scientists, mechanical engineers, etc.).
xNoReligionx 6 months ago
@888WulfDog888 Disproving something like Evolution is not only allowed, it is part of the scientific process. Given that you don't understand that, you clearly don't understand what science is, which is why you believe a load of hacus pocus instead of the scientifically proven theory of evolution.
Basically I'm saying you are a moron!
xNoReligionx 6 months ago
@xNoReligionx you are ignorant of the facts involved in this "scientific" process that you seem to have unfailing faith in. I put it to you that it is rigged and that empirical data has been bodged and erroneous calculations have knowingly been accepted into empirical knowledge. You sir a re a denialist of the highest order!
888WulfDog888 6 months ago
@888WulfDog888 This means that less than 0.15 percent of relevant scientists believe in creationism. And that is just in the United States, which has more creationists than any other industrialized country. In other countries, the number of relevant scientists who accept creationism drops to less than one tenth of 1 percent.
xNoReligionx 6 months ago
@888WulfDog888 You must be blind, oh wait you are religious no doubt.... same thing.
Imperial evidence lets see.
1. 99% of scientists agree with Evolution
2. The fossil record, if ID were true we'd see all the fossils appear at the same time all over the world, we don't
3. DNA, why is chimp DNA 99.5% similar to human DNA, and why does DNA show a clear progression through like species? Is God dishonest, did he make DNA conform with Evolution for fun...
huh you are an idiot!
xNoReligionx 6 months ago
@888WulfDog888 No I am really upset with you because I don't mind that you want to believe in you God, that's all fine with me. But that you want to have this Creationist, ID bullshit taught alongside REAL science like Evolution, so that kids get indoctrinated into your fucking shit... that really makes me angry!
Personally I think people like you are bordering on CRIMINAL and are abusive towards children, science and the furthermost of humanity in general.
xNoReligionx 6 months ago
@xNoReligionx There you have some evidence and there is piles of it out there, had you spent five minutes you could not help but trip over stacks of evidence the by far the majority of scientist disbelieve your BULLSHIT and follow evolution. Worse still when you get to the disciplines which matter, like biology the percentage goes over 99%.
xNoReligionx 6 months ago
@888WulfDog888 You come on here sneering at the scientist with you CHildish bullshit comments, when clearly you know nothing about the Truth except that which you have read on creationist ID bias websites.
You are a disgusting filthy cockroach with moral to match, no wonder if you get your morals from the morally bankrupt bible.
NOW FUCK OFF!
xNoReligionx 6 months ago
@888WulfDog888 You are the FUCKING MORON who only knows 5% of the facts, actually it's less than that.
You are a useless piece of turd... People like you are what brings the whole human race down. You are a liar, a Hippocratic, you dare to tell someone who has a scientific degree they don't know what they are talking about when you yourself DON't Even Know what Science is...
You FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL!
xNoReligionx 6 months ago
@xNoReligionx Perhaps if you have a scientific degree you should look into the fact that heat is NOT energy. If you are an honest scientist you will arrive at a startling conclusion that will shock you to the core. It may not turn you into a believer but it will certainly make you realize that you have been fed a red hearing. And you may even see what this means in relation to what is happening in the world at the moment. If not take the red pill and go on living the dream. Good bye
888WulfDog888 6 months ago
@888WulfDog888 I have a degree in computer science from Westminster, London
People like you, who read one sided bullshit and know very little about science and scientific method make me sick...
You are a drooling idiot, you probably have a very basic education, and you think you can debate with the big boys... it's pathetic in the extreme!
Making an analogy to a fucking popular movie with overtones of your political/ religious bullshit is even more pathetic.
YOU FAIL AGAIN!
xNoReligionx 6 months ago
@xNoReligionx you obviously dont no much you think your related to a banana?? no evoluation is un proved and unprovable the only reason they believe it is because speacial creation is un thinkable. ienstien new that creationism took place the harmony of the cosmos, moral absalutes,order and desighn demands a desighner, love... you cant mesure a pound of love yet you no its there. repent and trust in christ and you will be saved
mamainmancj 6 months ago
@mamainmancj Shut up you Ignorant Jesus freak. You people are MORONS,
FUCK OFF
xNoReligionx 6 months ago
that dam arabian keeps saying'' mmm hmmm'' when people talk!!! so annoying!!
209jaedoe 7 months ago