New Mac OS X 10.7 Lion - Mission Control Demonstration

[walter0bz]

feature request [1] when a desktop has many windows of only one application, please make it do old style expose.

[2] in the app bundles, please make the title bars visible for all windows like cascade.. it nearly does this already

[3] make it automatically do the app-bundle spread as you pan the cursor around

[bludika]

mission control is the stupidest shit ever

[walter0bz]

@bludika - The best would be Expose of current screen with other desktops visible as thumbnails, like Gnome3.

not a fan of the app bundles. but its' still ok.

[rybobuno]

Mine doesn't seem to work right. Used to I hit F3 and all the things running (including minimized windows) would show up. Now I swipe for mission control and it doesn't show the minimized windows.

[leccine]

fullscreen as a feature in 2011?!?! really? what is next? 

[roger767]

@leccine a start button

[Ayelis]

It's like Exposé only... Nevermind, it IS Exposé. This is like saying "Windows 7" isn't Windows, just because Windows XP looked a little different. Or a Siamese isn't a Cat because you have a housecat and your housecat looks different from a Siamese.

[thatapplegeek]

@Ayelis It's an updated version that includes enhanced features and puts spaces right into it.

[jordanquesnel]

@soulriver888 It's probably in the alpha testing stages, dumbass. You don't deserve to use a mac.

[jordanquesnel]

@soulriver888 The first mac I owned had a floppy drive, you would know which mac that was, the next was the emac, my current mac is the imac. Now, you talk like a retard, people will respond to you like you're retarded.

"What an extremely crap mouse"... really? I'd like to know your enlightened views on this, Aristotle.

[soulriver888]

Respond to this video...  By the way I own a 27" quadcore iMac and I love it.

[SelfDisembowelment]

@soulriver888 whats the point, nothing on the mac is going to utilize all those cores to it greatest potential.

[jfm429]

@SelfDisembowelment Actually, there are a lot of apps that will take advantage of an essentially unlimited number of cores with Grand Central Dispatch and OpenCL (yes, OpenCL can run on CPU as well as GPU). Most of the high performance software I use (specifically video and graphics, but others as well) can max out all available cores when necessary. That situation is different on Windows though, it's more of a hit and miss thing.

[dante01010]

@SelfDisembowelment uses better than Windows

[tc4101]

i love how every gesture he does he has to do it twice coz it dont work properly. magic mouse multitouch is tottal fail.

not to mention the speed control of it. see how he picks up the mouse all the time .

[JorrieboyL]

THIS IS JUST A GNOME SHELL RIP-OFF!

People always say that everyone is stealing ideas from apple, but almost all "new" features in os-x lion is already availible for linux.

For example: the "revolutionary" mac app store that you can use to download programs from one place is just a program like the ubuntu software center and synaptic. And the "new" way of keeping your programs up to date is also a rip-off from APT, wich is in existanse since 1998!

My opinion; this is just a paid UBUNTU rip-off

[CivicSteve85]

@JorrieboyL True or not Apple has become more successful at it. Plus The idea was there in 1998 but the technology was not there. Since Mac Os10 is Unix based , why wouldn't they? Its not about whats right or whats wrong at this point it simply is. they will make money and being Unix bases so will the parents of Unix

[jordanquesnel]

@JorrieboyL Nope, they took the app store from the Apple made product the iphone and introduce it to the mac. Ubuntu is an amalgamation of ideas from red hat, mint, and many other linux distros as well has taken many ideas from the windows GUI. The Ubuntu software center you mentioned is very convoluted and impractical. Finding anything useful or what you need is almost impossible.I'd like to see what Apple can do with this idea. They've not let me down yet. Spotlight, that's genius.

[spannerotoole]

@jordanquesnel

Not sure if you are aware that ubuntu is a debian based distro, and that mint is based on ubuntu sources, though this is set to change to debian sources. Anyway, the App Store sounds very much like a repository which is something that linux users have been using for ages

[jordanquesnel]

@spannerotoole Mhm, mint wasn't supposed to be in that list. I'm not sure what other linux distro caught my attention. "In terms of software, Ubuntu is like the iPhone. Almost anything you'd care to do, there's an app for that." The Guardian. I can send you the link. You need to realize there's a difference between making something that is alright and making something that is exceptional. I'm glad that the Ubuntu team is finally catching on...

[TheFri13]

@JorrieboyL Oh please.... For Ubuntu fans almost everything is rip of the (totally over hyped) Ubuntu. Apple has been developing mission control longer than GNOME 3.0 has been in development. Ubuntu Software Center is just fork of the RPMDrake and Yast.

Please, dont over hype Ubuntu everywhere as it is not anykind special when compared to other older distributions.

[walter0bz]

@TheFri13 -

multi desktops was in linux before mac

[TheFri13]

@walter0bz Actually, they were on X before Mac and X were for Linux almost from beginning.

The point is, that people run around Ubuntu as it would have invented everything, while it has not. One of the worst distribution what is available by ethics and amount of damage what it does for its users knowledge by its community.

The mission control is better than a VD's on G-S. I use both. G-S is fine until you actually need to start using virtual desktops. Best VD management is still done by KWin.

[walter0bz]

@TheFri13 -

Just discovered MissionControl can still use hot-corners to activate, my opinion of it has just gone up :) ,its' a personal preference of mine, i found the up-swipe gesture un-comfortable ( strangely, i like throwing the cursor to the top with one finger, but for some reason constraining all your fingers together just doesn't fit my hands. I think i still like the sideways swipe for desktop switching, thats' very cool. If they add 'SNAP' & current desk expose on MC it's perfect

[TheFri13]

@walter0bz I have never liked three finger gestures comfortable on laptops touch pads when needed to move fingers up.

They work great when you have separated touch pad like Apple does (seems to be only one as well with dedicated one). As then hand is much better location for it.

I waited many years and wrote to PC OEM's to make a 17" laptop where the touchpad replaces numeric pad. And now Logitech released one such keyboard, should have suggest that to Apple as well.

[walter0bz]

@TheFri13 - Keyboard with big trackpad inplace of numeric - yeah I want this too (for desktop machine). Fed up faffing around with mouse+keyboard when i have several machines , and most of the ones i've seen are too small.

[TheFri13]

@walter0bz Logitech K400 is something what I would like to have. But with same touch pad as what is Apple selling as own unit = big 6 inch touchpad with glass surface. K400 has just 3.5 inch touch pad what I call small. But it would be better than nothing for laptops if just located to right side of the keyboard. I just wait that someone separates keyboard and touch pad on laptop and allows user to swap their places so it fits for left handed as well. Of course a 15"+ screens only

[walter0bz]

@TheFri13

>>" Best VD management is still done by KWin."

-- you might be right there, the small thumnails horizontally on the taskbar are great, etc etc.

i'm in 2 minds, there's a school of thought that apps themselves should manage screenspace (e.g. an IDE for development becomes like its own windowmanager with internal tiling etc etc) , but I do like the idea of a lot of powerful cross-app functionality built into the OS (complex OS enables simple apps to work together)

[TheFri13]

@walter0bz I didn't mean switcher but KWin itself. Like when Apple presented Exposé it was awesome.

And as Unix desktops have had VD's long, KWin got presentation (clone of Expose) and improved it by joining it with desktop grid. Example: imgur . com/ tBOBj That is what is littlebit same as mission control on OS X. And please dont mistake window management (or UI at all) to OS as the UI has nothing to do with the OS. OS just simply controls all other software, UI's and apps and so on. :)

[walter0bz]

@TheFri13

>>" And please dont mistake window management (or UI at all) to OS"

-- i know, i've personally tinkered around with customizing window manager sourcecode (had a bash at trying to make dwm more presentable & do what I wanted). I know the difference between the layers even if I slip up saying 'linux' when I mean one layer of software that gets thrown around with linux distros. I must look into KDE again. But the multitouch trackpad has me addicted to the Macbook at the minute :)

[VILITOCROSS]

well if is awful no use it :p

[netscapepizza]

looks awful