I don't know much about trimming horse hooves, but I thought the sole was supposed to be kept lower than the wall or it could create soreness? Don't quote me or anything, I was just wondering... then again, apparently this horse isn't for riding.
hi im thinking about trimming my miniatures feet so will only have to get the farrier to come out every other time as it costs me 20.00 pounds. for not even 10 mins work and his feet never get particular long or misshapen. just gets a bit long in the toe. so would a rasp to trim and smooth his feet round just until the wall be okay? he has never been lame. he is 2yrs 4m, goes on fields and roads a few times a week for light exercise.
In my opinion, horses do better when they arent walking on the soul. My farrier cut my barrel horses feet flat, so she was walking on the soul. And she could hardly walk. So we cut out the sould a bit, deaper in the closer we got to the frog, and she walks lots better. She has a rim to walk on rather than her soul.
just like everything else in life, there are several opinions on every matter, and everyone always believes theirs is the correct one.whether you choose to use a farrier or not is your choice. I use a wonderful farrier, for a reasonable price ($25 per horse, trim only). I am not skilled enough to do the trims myself, and I only trust a professional who has had YEARS of training. He also fixed a really bad job done to one of my rescue horses by their prev. owner...a do it yourself-er
Hey ... those are pull offs !! and the cheapest ones on the market . You should throw all your tools in the drink and take up fancy goldfish ! leave the ponies alone .
it is not recommened that u cut out the frog of the foot. which u just did before the video started. y did u cut the frog out ? that is unprofessional.
farriers TOTALLY suck. All ego maniacs. Yes, I have met some trimmers who trim in real extremes. Thank God I learned to trim my horses MYSELF so I don't have to rely on disgusting, unreliable, unknowledgeable, rude, sloppy, ignorant, rough farriers or same type of trimmers. There is a happy medium. And nippers are very dangerous. That is why I use a grinder with a zirconium flap disk.
Hey, i am a farrier and i dont "suck", i am a nice guy. I wash, i am reliable knowledgeable, polite, sharp and i am not ignorant and i am told that i scrub up nicely!. I am not an ego-maniac, but i trained for 4 1/2 years and have 19 years experience. However i am curious as to why nippers are "very dangerous"
Do you sell or know who sells dvd on horse shoeing and trimming. Please i really want to learn as much as i can. I go to school but i don't have time to go to a farrier school. i'll appreciate your help.thanks
I dont know of any books, dvd's to teach such a complex craft.Only way to learn this craft is repetition with a tutor.I have shod and trimmed over 20,000 horses now, and i see both sides of the farrier vs trimmer arguement and there are merits on both sides but only understanding on one side.People like Jessicamaree1987 dont understand the reasons behind these issues,some need shoes some dont, end of story.We have taken them from natural environment,ride them on roads etc, this is why we shoe
Pete Ramey is a very good start. His DVD series is excellent. I trim my own horses and without Pete, I could not have learned. My horses feet are now in better condition than when I had so called professionals. It just takes study and practice and you need gloves for sure. I am a scientist and pick things up quickly. You can too, just need to study it and it would not hurt to find a mentor in the area that knows what they are doing. Be conservative in the approach
Does he only do trimming or shoeing, cause I have a bunch of rocks and its not so good of terrain my horses are in so I really need my horses shod cause their hoofs are like chipping from the toe. Thanks and I really appreciate your help, Thank You very much/ :-)
This is the most crap I have heard!! The foot is now unlevell, she has robbed all strength from it and raped the foot of any calust to protect it!! I hope she stays out in oz!! There is no way as long as she has a hole in her arse that that horse could go and do a days hunting on roads twice a week like my horses have too!
i paid a farrier to shoe my horse every 6-8 weeks, each time cost me over $100, now barefoot, i trim Toby myself, he is more sound than eva and i only pay $50 for a trimmer to come out every 6 months. my trimmer is qualified and certified. shoes destroyed my horses hooves. try telling my Toby its all a lie when he is living proof of the benifits. farriers need to come out of medival times and face reality. there are bad trimmers just as ther are bad farriers.
well, here in Aust ther are. we call 'em 'trimmers' or 'barefoot profecionals' i actually have 2 trimmers. one of them prefers being refered to as a trimmer and not a Natural Hoof Care Practitioner, for his own reasons. I know trimers that trained in America for years. My other trimmer hastdone an extensive TAFE course here in Tasmania, its he only one of its kind in Aust, and its recognised as being first class.
a lot of farriers go to learn the new skills. Sorry about the monolog!
the more wear a hoof gets, the faster and stronger it grows. wild horses travel hundreds of km, moving all day, they dont have shoes. with trimming, the rasp represents wear, the hoof grows stronger to accommodate that wear. horses dont need shoes to control it. they were not born with them. the more they work, the better and healthier the hooves. if you worried about it, get them boots.
nails thru the hoof wall create weak spots and cracks. increase concussion and limit movement. look it up.
You do not need shoes but you might need protection. Look into hoof boots. They work well. Shoes are destructive. They do not allow for expansion of the hoof. There are different kinds of boots: Epic Easy boots, Old Macs. You need to measure the foot correctly after the appropriate trim.
@taraleev If your worried about expantion & contraction of the hoof capsul how does it make sense to completely incircle it in hard plastic and metal clamps? Its true that metal shoes impede expansion but the hoof still moves . hence the wear mark on the heels when sheos are pulled. Further more shoes are custum fit to 1/16th of an inch. horses hoof shapes can be classified my 5 catagories, just the same 5 types of human finger prints. Shape is more then just a measurement
hahaha im loving the hollows in the heel quarters... good shout... plus if the sole comes into contact with the floor to often.. does that not cause idscomfort? im sure it does or maybe im thinking of somthing else... hmmmmmm
ppl that arnt regestered or an apprentice shldnt be able 2 trim cause its not in the best interest of da horse, for example shes left lodz of bar, left a shone trap and trimmed unballanced
its taking so long because shes not using the rasp properly, should be long hard strokes
to be honest if a horse needs a trim it'll get 1 but if it needs shoes
what really makes me laugh tho is tht people all pay more for a barefoot trim of some1 with no training then some1 thts had 4 yrs of it, its stupid
This horse is very contracted as evidenced by the pinched narrow frog. But it may be "sound" due to lack of good blood flow because of the contraction. "Soundness" can be created by cutting the nerves to the foot or by applying a tight shoe OR by trimming a hoof to maintain it's shape upon weight-bearing. This is not a healthy foot though. I wear gloves too to keep my hands soft for holding other things that might appreciate soft hands.
that is a terrible trim she's given that horse...how mnay "natural balance trims" have i had to correct?....my new apprentce even saw the need to trim back the bars we have fixed several horses, stuck with this silly kind of trimming.....the bruising in the seat "seat of the corn"can be extremely painfull.....but you just natural trimms just keep fibbing to folks/////////////
Hoof looks like my barefoot endurance horse's hoof. My farrier rarely has to use the nippers, and I only rasp off any ragged edges or very obvious flaring between farrier visits, which are 6-8 weeks. My point is, that my horse is ridden with a beveled hoof wall, level with the sole, and he is not sore. I ride with farriers (the shoeing ones) who say he has excellent hooves. A trim like this works for a horse that is accustomed to working barefoot, although I did think I saw an overgrown bar.
Leaving the hoof wall a tiny bit over the sole is correct leaving it flush with the sole is ok. I trim performance horses. This horse would not be sore, ridden . what is wrong with using gloves? Don't be stupid. I work in the desert and I love to see you pick up a pair of nippers lying in the sun in 117degrees F. The trim she has done is GOOD enough when a horse has such a healthy sole to walk on. If she has left something too high he will wear it down in no time. Great job girl !
that is a living horse she is working on ,realy do not think she cares at all about that ,if she did she would find someone who knows what they are doing to trim its hoofs ,the thing horses should learn is to scream so loud ,like dogs do when in pain ,maybe that would stop people hurting them?
Here is proof that any one can make a fool of her self ( It one thing to thought of as a fool / but then she goes ahead and proves IT!!} notice the tools (??}feed store nippers, that she pushes forward to rip the hoof wall off, then she never checks for balance of foot fall and never once had /used her rasp level,just the fact she needs to wear gloves is sa sign of her lack experience in the use of the tools as well as basic trimming.these tow deserve each other (trimmer/owner.
erm, i have been trimming for years and i wear gloves...i have always been told to wear gloves, even my farrier wore gloves. i have cut and rasped my hands too often. when your working away, trimming, and the horse moves, you slip and oops, there goes the skin on your thumb.
thats like saying a farrier is inexperienced coz they wear chaps! or that a bricky has no clue because he wears gloves.
No I think she did a fair job...Of course didn't you hear the lady saying she didn't ride him/her? I find nothing wrong with doing it yourself as long as you aren't hurting the horse, she didn't cut the sole and the horse didn't pull away in pain.
I can see if she was doing it for a riding horse it would be a different story...
Unbelievable! If I trimmed horses like that I would be out of business. Please, no one try this at home on your horses. The medial heel is ran forward as indicated by the crushed over grown bar, the lateral heel needs more support as the bar is missing. The way this hoof is trimmed it is going to put pressure on the apex of the P-3 causing undue bruising. I would love to see the HPA (hoof pastern angle) of this front limb.
if that horse is not foot sore after being butchered like that i will eat it!! Are you qualified or have you ever taken an apprenticeship in farriery, i doubt it!
el procedimiento no esta del todo bueno, porque el corte inicial debe comenzarse a la altura del cuarto (medial o lateral) y asi se sigue hasta el cuarto opuesto
"the absolutely good procedure not this, because the initial cut must begin to the height of the quarter (medial or lateral) and asi is followed until the fourth opposite one"
Thanks for your comment - more discussion welcome.
I don't know much about trimming horse hooves, but I thought the sole was supposed to be kept lower than the wall or it could create soreness? Don't quote me or anything, I was just wondering... then again, apparently this horse isn't for riding.
FlowingDepths 1 month ago
@shoerripper wow you really are an ignorant sad little boy.
I hope you get some help
joyinc30 1 year ago
She did ok but shouldnt file the sole
hyperfocus2011 1 year ago
hi im thinking about trimming my miniatures feet so will only have to get the farrier to come out every other time as it costs me 20.00 pounds. for not even 10 mins work and his feet never get particular long or misshapen. just gets a bit long in the toe. so would a rasp to trim and smooth his feet round just until the wall be okay? he has never been lame. he is 2yrs 4m, goes on fields and roads a few times a week for light exercise.
tilafan1000 1 year ago
wow this farrier is really nice explaining what they are doing thats quite nice some farriers can be a pain to deal with!
Haydensc10 1 year ago
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itwasallgoodinthe70s 1 year ago
In my opinion, horses do better when they arent walking on the soul. My farrier cut my barrel horses feet flat, so she was walking on the soul. And she could hardly walk. So we cut out the sould a bit, deaper in the closer we got to the frog, and she walks lots better. She has a rim to walk on rather than her soul.
BarrelRacer955 1 year ago
Wild horses don't get their hoofs trimmed.I guess they wear them down running all day out west.
HattieLovesCattie 2 years ago
just like everything else in life, there are several opinions on every matter, and everyone always believes theirs is the correct one.whether you choose to use a farrier or not is your choice. I use a wonderful farrier, for a reasonable price ($25 per horse, trim only). I am not skilled enough to do the trims myself, and I only trust a professional who has had YEARS of training. He also fixed a really bad job done to one of my rescue horses by their prev. owner...a do it yourself-er
jclemons2008 2 years ago
You are a sexist, ignorant person
get a life
SazDaisyBud 2 years ago
Hey ... those are pull offs !! and the cheapest ones on the market . You should throw all your tools in the drink and take up fancy goldfish ! leave the ponies alone .
dingnblue 2 years ago
it is not recommened that u cut out the frog of the foot. which u just did before the video started. y did u cut the frog out ? that is unprofessional.
freeportrait 2 years ago
she said she cut the shaggy parts out, which is important because if you don't remove the flaps, thrush can set in.
llunaln 2 years ago
Yes, the tags only and be conservative with the frog.
taraleev 2 years ago
farriers TOTALLY suck. All ego maniacs. Yes, I have met some trimmers who trim in real extremes. Thank God I learned to trim my horses MYSELF so I don't have to rely on disgusting, unreliable, unknowledgeable, rude, sloppy, ignorant, rough farriers or same type of trimmers. There is a happy medium. And nippers are very dangerous. That is why I use a grinder with a zirconium flap disk.
fifthavenuegirl 2 years ago
Hey, i am a farrier and i dont "suck", i am a nice guy. I wash, i am reliable knowledgeable, polite, sharp and i am not ignorant and i am told that i scrub up nicely!. I am not an ego-maniac, but i trained for 4 1/2 years and have 19 years experience. However i am curious as to why nippers are "very dangerous"
tomtknox 2 years ago 7
Do you sell or know who sells dvd on horse shoeing and trimming. Please i really want to learn as much as i can. I go to school but i don't have time to go to a farrier school. i'll appreciate your help.thanks
xlxOrtizxlx 2 years ago
I dont know of any books, dvd's to teach such a complex craft.Only way to learn this craft is repetition with a tutor.I have shod and trimmed over 20,000 horses now, and i see both sides of the farrier vs trimmer arguement and there are merits on both sides but only understanding on one side.People like Jessicamaree1987 dont understand the reasons behind these issues,some need shoes some dont, end of story.We have taken them from natural environment,ride them on roads etc, this is why we shoe
tomtknox 2 years ago
Hi,
Pete Ramey is a very good start. His DVD series is excellent. I trim my own horses and without Pete, I could not have learned. My horses feet are now in better condition than when I had so called professionals. It just takes study and practice and you need gloves for sure. I am a scientist and pick things up quickly. You can too, just need to study it and it would not hurt to find a mentor in the area that knows what they are doing. Be conservative in the approach
taraleev 2 years ago
Does he only do trimming or shoeing, cause I have a bunch of rocks and its not so good of terrain my horses are in so I really need my horses shod cause their hoofs are like chipping from the toe. Thanks and I really appreciate your help, Thank You very much/ :-)
xlxOrtizxlx 2 years ago
Nippers aren't dangerous, what is dangerous is how the person uses them/
xlxOrtizxlx 2 years ago
This is the most crap I have heard!! The foot is now unlevell, she has robbed all strength from it and raped the foot of any calust to protect it!! I hope she stays out in oz!! There is no way as long as she has a hole in her arse that that horse could go and do a days hunting on roads twice a week like my horses have too!
shoeing 3 years ago
Nice pair of nippers.
AFACF 3 years ago
natural trim is a good thing, but its not for every horse. and natural trimmers talk way too much shit about farriers. shoes dont kill horses!!
confederaterocker89 3 years ago
Sheza diggin at those quarters isnt she
fiddler9635 3 years ago
i paid a farrier to shoe my horse every 6-8 weeks, each time cost me over $100, now barefoot, i trim Toby myself, he is more sound than eva and i only pay $50 for a trimmer to come out every 6 months. my trimmer is qualified and certified. shoes destroyed my horses hooves. try telling my Toby its all a lie when he is living proof of the benifits. farriers need to come out of medival times and face reality. there are bad trimmers just as ther are bad farriers.
JessicaMaree1987 3 years ago 2
There are people that just do trims?
fiddler9635 3 years ago
well, here in Aust ther are. we call 'em 'trimmers' or 'barefoot profecionals' i actually have 2 trimmers. one of them prefers being refered to as a trimmer and not a Natural Hoof Care Practitioner, for his own reasons. I know trimers that trained in America for years. My other trimmer hastdone an extensive TAFE course here in Tasmania, its he only one of its kind in Aust, and its recognised as being first class.
a lot of farriers go to learn the new skills. Sorry about the monolog!
JessicaMaree1987 3 years ago
I didnt know that. I make the most money with trims, but never thought nor knew of anyone who just did trims. Thanks for telling me.
fiddler9635 3 years ago
why did the shoes messed up your horse's hoof??? if you work him alot you definetly need shoes or else your horse's hoofs would wear out.
xlxOrtizxlx 2 years ago
the more wear a hoof gets, the faster and stronger it grows. wild horses travel hundreds of km, moving all day, they dont have shoes. with trimming, the rasp represents wear, the hoof grows stronger to accommodate that wear. horses dont need shoes to control it. they were not born with them. the more they work, the better and healthier the hooves. if you worried about it, get them boots.
nails thru the hoof wall create weak spots and cracks. increase concussion and limit movement. look it up.
JessicaMaree1987 2 years ago
You do not need shoes but you might need protection. Look into hoof boots. They work well. Shoes are destructive. They do not allow for expansion of the hoof. There are different kinds of boots: Epic Easy boots, Old Macs. You need to measure the foot correctly after the appropriate trim.
taraleev 2 years ago
@taraleev If your worried about expantion & contraction of the hoof capsul how does it make sense to completely incircle it in hard plastic and metal clamps? Its true that metal shoes impede expansion but the hoof still moves . hence the wear mark on the heels when sheos are pulled. Further more shoes are custum fit to 1/16th of an inch. horses hoof shapes can be classified my 5 catagories, just the same 5 types of human finger prints. Shape is more then just a measurement
gemtwist49 1 year ago
hahaha im loving the hollows in the heel quarters... good shout... plus if the sole comes into contact with the floor to often.. does that not cause idscomfort? im sure it does or maybe im thinking of somthing else... hmmmmmm
Neath1010 3 years ago
ppl that arnt regestered or an apprentice shldnt be able 2 trim cause its not in the best interest of da horse, for example shes left lodz of bar, left a shone trap and trimmed unballanced
its taking so long because shes not using the rasp properly, should be long hard strokes
to be honest if a horse needs a trim it'll get 1 but if it needs shoes
what really makes me laugh tho is tht people all pay more for a barefoot trim of some1 with no training then some1 thts had 4 yrs of it, its stupid
007blacksmith 3 years ago
This horse is very contracted as evidenced by the pinched narrow frog. But it may be "sound" due to lack of good blood flow because of the contraction. "Soundness" can be created by cutting the nerves to the foot or by applying a tight shoe OR by trimming a hoof to maintain it's shape upon weight-bearing. This is not a healthy foot though. I wear gloves too to keep my hands soft for holding other things that might appreciate soft hands.
hoofforeeya 3 years ago 2
so what do you hols with your soft hands.. ((( just curious )))
xlxOrtizxlx 2 years ago
think about that....im the same, my partner wont let me hold his hands (or any other part of him) if i have rough hands after trimming. ;)
JessicaMaree1987 2 years ago
is it hard to trim a horses hoof
horses9068 3 years ago
She is very slow compared to any Farriers I have used.
Gimmer3 3 years ago
that is a terrible trim she's given that horse...how mnay "natural balance trims" have i had to correct?....my new apprentce even saw the need to trim back the bars we have fixed several horses, stuck with this silly kind of trimming.....the bruising in the seat "seat of the corn"can be extremely painfull.....but you just natural trimms just keep fibbing to folks/////////////
savaget1993 3 years ago
she didnt even take off the bar
savaget1993 3 years ago 2
I have to say that the frog is not very even and the farrier is terrribly slow but otherwise I don't see anything wrong.
horse5racer5 3 years ago
Hoof looks like my barefoot endurance horse's hoof. My farrier rarely has to use the nippers, and I only rasp off any ragged edges or very obvious flaring between farrier visits, which are 6-8 weeks. My point is, that my horse is ridden with a beveled hoof wall, level with the sole, and he is not sore. I ride with farriers (the shoeing ones) who say he has excellent hooves. A trim like this works for a horse that is accustomed to working barefoot, although I did think I saw an overgrown bar.
MySubmarineIsYellow 3 years ago
Can we cay a little sole pressure? But people like that is what keeps us FARRIERS in business.
smack36867 3 years ago
Leaving the hoof wall a tiny bit over the sole is correct leaving it flush with the sole is ok. I trim performance horses. This horse would not be sore, ridden . what is wrong with using gloves? Don't be stupid. I work in the desert and I love to see you pick up a pair of nippers lying in the sun in 117degrees F. The trim she has done is GOOD enough when a horse has such a healthy sole to walk on. If she has left something too high he will wear it down in no time. Great job girl !
linustheferret 3 years ago 2
that is a living horse she is working on ,realy do not think she cares at all about that ,if she did she would find someone who knows what they are doing to trim its hoofs ,the thing horses should learn is to scream so loud ,like dogs do when in pain ,maybe that would stop people hurting them?
peasenhalljesus 3 years ago
Here is proof that any one can make a fool of her self ( It one thing to thought of as a fool / but then she goes ahead and proves IT!!} notice the tools (??}feed store nippers, that she pushes forward to rip the hoof wall off, then she never checks for balance of foot fall and never once had /used her rasp level,just the fact she needs to wear gloves is sa sign of her lack experience in the use of the tools as well as basic trimming.these tow deserve each other (trimmer/owner.
farrierguy 3 years ago
erm, i have been trimming for years and i wear gloves...i have always been told to wear gloves, even my farrier wore gloves. i have cut and rasped my hands too often. when your working away, trimming, and the horse moves, you slip and oops, there goes the skin on your thumb.
thats like saying a farrier is inexperienced coz they wear chaps! or that a bricky has no clue because he wears gloves.
really, gloves are an important part of the kit.
JessicaMaree1987 2 years ago
No I think she did a fair job...Of course didn't you hear the lady saying she didn't ride him/her? I find nothing wrong with doing it yourself as long as you aren't hurting the horse, she didn't cut the sole and the horse didn't pull away in pain.
I can see if she was doing it for a riding horse it would be a different story...
DressageQueenCUatX 4 years ago 4
Unbelievable! If I trimmed horses like that I would be out of business. Please, no one try this at home on your horses. The medial heel is ran forward as indicated by the crushed over grown bar, the lateral heel needs more support as the bar is missing. The way this hoof is trimmed it is going to put pressure on the apex of the P-3 causing undue bruising. I would love to see the HPA (hoof pastern angle) of this front limb.
ProHoofCare 4 years ago 4
Hey,,, you seem to know what you are talking about. I need help with my mare if you'd like to look at some pictures just reply to me. thanks,
saddlesforsale 4 years ago
she didnt even look down the long axis for balance and levelness
coxy552 4 years ago
dont think you can apply this trimming to all horses,please be carefull
fourshoes10 4 years ago 4
when you started trimming you said trim the hoof wall even with the sole. after trimming you said leave it 1/16" above. which is it ??? Dallas Ga.
tracechain 4 years ago
Thanks, I search on Google for 1 hr to find info on trimming. And you had all the time. Google search yielded zero
llamamarch 4 years ago
if that horse is not foot sore after being butchered like that i will eat it!! Are you qualified or have you ever taken an apprenticeship in farriery, i doubt it!
tomtknox 4 years ago
good to see barefoot stuff on you tube.
you should buy some GE cutters, very expensive, but you won,t look back!
trebletwo 4 years ago
el procedimiento no esta del todo bueno, porque el corte inicial debe comenzarse a la altura del cuarto (medial o lateral) y asi se sigue hasta el cuarto opuesto
huguimin 5 years ago
I found an online translation page & got:
"the absolutely good procedure not this, because the initial cut must begin to the height of the quarter (medial or lateral) and asi is followed until the fourth opposite one"
Thanks for your comment - more discussion welcome.
Waltzzz 5 years ago
Thanks a lot, for the translation waltzzz
huguimin 5 years ago
That was a really good video - thanks
lotterydreams 5 years ago
cool vid.
delSid 5 years ago