Shawn Obasi,listen just ignore these ignorant people who post their trash on here!most folks whp talk trash and who can't back up their talk need to keep quiet....maybe if more African Americans were involved in this beautiful art of Ving Tsun kung-fu,all the senseless bloodshed would probably stop!
@Johnnieboy001 Fail to understand your point. This guy has taken Wing Chun and applied it realistically. He has fought all manner of martial arts in a ring and shown his application of Wing Chun works in practice. How is that a disgrace to Wing Chun?
umm nah sorry bro you shouldnt show off on the net if you cant even practice the martial art properly, this is a disgrace. do a clip of your sil lum tao
Shawn Obasi i have seen the footage of how you behaved at your M1 try out's and i just watched "Shawn Seal the Deal Obasi AKA The One Legged Wing Chun Man". U r an embarrassment to Wing Chun and just a dick in general. Pull your head in.
@HipHopHead187 How does it ? You punch with your whole body, he is just using his arms so there is little to no power, not only that, he is just slapping which will not hurt what so ever.
@andrew31593 If u knew wat Wing Chun style is u would know that U dont punch wit ur whole body. Da energy supposed 2 come from ur shoulders & arms. That teach u 2 keep a steay body as well movement stability. This system is built on efficiency (less movement less struggle thus using less energy). Its a Close Quarters combat style. Even da way u punch or block or disarming or dropping is meant 2 be used wen ur at close distance wit an enemy or opponent.
@andrew31593 continuing... Like i mentioned before da wodden dummy is 2 improve punch & blocking technique. Mostly blocking. U dont attack like that in a fight. Obviously, i thought it waz evident enuff 2 u. Is like a sensitivity drill like da chi sao in Wing Chun. Da point is not 2 see wat ur opponent is gonna do next, u have 2 perceive or feel that they're gonna do next. thats why wooden dummy & sparring compliment each other. both r essential 2 be a good Wing Chun student.
@andrew31593 Another thing its not supposed hurt, Wing Chun teaches u 2 condition ur fists as well as 2 avoid injury.It doesnt matter whether u slap it or tap it, da importance is 2 improve sensitivity towards attacks.
@andrew31593 Ur ignorance is irritating......Dont u have any ethics or morals? I never said fighting waz a good thing. defense is 1 aspect of fightin which is wat i waz implyin wen i said "da importance is 2 improve sensitivity towards attacks". Besides Martial Arts is a way of life & 2 condition & improve mentally, physically & spiritually. But i will give u dis, ur absolutely rite, using martial arts for fightin is retarded. but its also subjective wen it comes 2 defense.
@HipHopHead187 Do what you want i don't care if you waste your time. Wrestling, boxing, ju-jitsu, this is useful shit, the three most important styles to becoming a fighter. There is a reason NONE of the pro MMA fighters do wingchun, 'cause it is bullshit and you are a fool.
@andrew31593 Of course it wont in MMA cuz of 2 many restrictions. If it waz a wing chun fighter against a pro MMA fighter in a real fight, wing chun is gonna whoop they ass. Cuz they'll gonna use watever 2 take them down. ok we can agree 2 disagree. Every1 is entitled 2 they opinions.
Uhhhhhh, what was that? I think I saw a few 'hadoken' type strikes in that "routine"... Yor sound effect were more entertaining to listen to Hahahahahahahaha...
I happen to have 6 WC dummys in my School. 1 of them is the same model that you have. If you can borrow a plane (hand or power) and plane each spring 1/8 of an inch front and back, top and bottom you will get a much better reaction from your dummy. it will also slide side to side easily too. also, as an observation, if you were to raise your dummy up to the higher level you would get a better workout. P.S. I train in SF with one of Yip Mans students.. Oh yeah, Ignore all the negativativty.
@ilikebigguns i been juggling the balls for a few years now and i have no damage, then again i am a stone mason also... i also have been juggling since 1997.
cool vid. why does this always have to turn into a TMA vs MMA debate. the man himself said this is a vid of him just freestyling some movements and such. i myself have gotten into the dumb debate and i can honestly say i apoligize for wasting my comments arguing with people.
@lawngnome412 Alot of MMA has hate for TMA, and vice versa. Alot of MMA and TMA hate Wing Chun. Soo... pretty much every one who is not wing chun hates wing chun with some exceptions. I left Taekwondo to learn some wing chun and they tell me how worthless what I do is (students not teachers). And they tell me, not TKD just that TKD will beat what I do in all situations, but that MMA would. Like theres never been a crap MMA fighter, or TKD. Side note, crap TKD is more often. No offense to TKD.
I love to see traditional martial artist thrive in the MMA era. I'm a new school Muay Thai/Submission guy. But I know how the arts I grew up watching have been getting no respect since UFC 1. Does your stance change significantly when you fight due to the looming ground element?
@SDSoverFiend I can honestly tell you that this guy is NOT qualified to touch that dummy! I know A bit about his Wing Chun background. Before you can hit the Mook Jong, you must first be good at all 3 hand forms and their applications, including chi sau, you should see this guys chi sau, it's repulsive.
@JulesBadguy Um, yes they do, and kung-fu has no track record of success in real fights, though this video shows that it's good if a tree attacks you.
What a disgrace to my style! Wing Chun is predominately for smaller people, this guy is using too much shoulder and power, trying to out-muscle every technique, not understanding the concept behind the moves, I've seen this guy train with women, he constantly hits them by "mistake", he cannot control his punching, that's why he ends up hitting his training partners, he's sloppy, over commits, too tense, who the hell taught him? Self taught?
@SchizophrenicNYC Its not that serious dude. Even if he is self taught he's still finessing it better than 70% of the people on this planet. Will you comment like on everybody else video who you deem "Self Taught"? I for one wish i can do this much let alone i never touched a wing chun dummy before.
Rock on man, that was the Shizz!! I just started Wing Chun 6 months ago and it is amazing I am working with a Se Fu that was a student of Imen Bosepi, I think I spelled that correct. I cannot wait to get a dummy and be able to perform like that one day soon. I need to get one first and that is the delema of course. But keep up your awsome good work and live long and prosper. Peace.
I am a fan of yours because I love wing chun and you use wing chun as a part of your arsenal. Bruce Lee said keep what works for you and discard the rest. I see that you are a full on grappler as well as a striker. Sounds like the total package to me. Now it's just a matter of moving up the ladder of success and seeing what each level requires. You seem like a good guy. Not mean. I'll watch you fight every chance I get and hope you win. I'll be looking for those wing chun moments;)
I was just curious. Why the gloves? Also in your defense from all the haters on here i've watched your progression over the years and you are getting better and thats what its about. (The journey not the destination)
your stance, basic structure, and pretty much everything about your wing chun is no good. If you want to do Wing Chun you need to start back at the beginning. It looks like you've been learning from books. Freeze at 1:13 and look at your bong sau. Wu sao=good, bong sao=shite. Also the way you chain your techniques shows a basic lack of understanding. This look like someone who just learned Siu Lim Tao. The footwork/stance is BAD.
Shouldn't it be faster ? Seen others do freestyle, and theirs look like lightening speed action. Im sure Shawn has more power than those guys, but still wouldnt hurt for it to be faster.
Damn this guy!! his like a gorilla trying to practice wing chun!! OMG! dude! honestly!! they way he moves and the way he does it really sux! at wing chun world they will call him the newbie!!. his body size height does not fit wing chun style of martial arts for him LOL.! yeah yeah his choice but WTF he Looks Awefull!! I suggest he tries to find another martial arts that fit him.
@MrDUnit69 .....why don't you put up a video showing your Wing Chun style and stop being a hater...and the gorilla comment shows your ignorance. I will continue to wait for your Youtube video....but I won't get one.....so.....Shut the fuck up.....have a nice day.....
i think this guy just does WC to do it, because he has never fought using the wc system. He fights jujitsu and claims he does wc, and then call it wing itsu or some shit what a loser.
You can have the fastest hands, the most powerful delivery, but if you're not in the right position it's all for nought. Footwork is king and the reason we so often hear about martial artists being taken apart by boxers. The position of Shawn's feet, arguably the most telling indicator as to the level of ones expertise - are not in shot! Shawn, could we get this Vid with footwork Inc? Cheers
you are good but why use the same move and your slow and i think you can do better then that you need more speed and power plus more practice i too study it but im creating somthing new mabe more powerful then bruce lees but im still working on it so far im almost as fast as bruce lee but i know it takes more then speed to take it to a new level .
Part 2. Please tell Joe Rogan that in a real situation with a real tradionalist that the open hands make a difference. Got to the guard and bite your opponents throat. Get mounted and thro an upward fing strike to the throat or eyes. If you watch most MMA fighters who get mounted they will roll with the arms extended. A kung-fu artist will use the same method to grab underneath the eyes and rake down. Get in a clinch and pull a Mike Tyson ear bite. Joe needs to know that MMA is a sport!
@kaloshilo If I understand you correctly, you don't fight because you're TOO dangerous? Out of curiosity, how many throats have you bitten in your kung fu training? Please tell me how many "upward fing strikes" to the throat or eyes have you actually done successfully while mounted? How many eyes have you actually grabbed? My guess... zero in all cases. So you would effectively be fighting me with THEORY? With techniques that you THINK work? Just curious. =/
@overbayd youre a fucking idiot. if you're a gun expert in shooting range why would u do ACTUAL head shots to prove it works? dude it works, but why would u kill someone with a move just to prove to yourself it works? lol
@metalhead33 The gun experts actually pull the trigger and effect the shot, even in practice. I have zero confidence in someone who says they are an expert in something they have never actually done. I'm a former Choy Li Fut instructor - I know what it means to have that false sense of confidence. Now, I train in Muay Thai and BJJ; and, I watch very little to no UFC. But hey, you keep with your bias, delusions and name calling. It lets everyone know how very little intelligence you possess.
@overbayd and just like the gun experts, a good wing chun fighter spars for real with gloves on, and if he's gonna gouge eyes of strike the throat, he does it for real on a life size dummy. he does this so much that it becomes second nature to him. Now im sorry if you wasted years on a style that sucks, or that you guys pretended to do the moves to the air. Me and my buddies been doing muay thai and BJJ for years, but recently started full contact wing chun, cuz MT and BJJ just arent enough :)
@metalhead33 I've been in MT/BJJ for about 3 years, and MMA for about a year, so no need for your mock sympathy. As far as your training, it seems you're not in traditional WC where the main striking emphasis is thru chi sao/wooden dummy. More power to you, but you're not the kung fu norm. I was making a point on those who claim to be too dangerous, where in a clinch they'll resort to eye this, groin that, throat here, bite there. It's BS, and the majority of the fighting community knows it.
@overbayd well the truth is mma is a sport, under certain strict rules, not intended for realistic street self defense. if you wanna learn mma to cage fight for the fun of it then great, but in the streets people can use whatever works, eye gouge, hits to throat, w/e. Its not BS, and its not cheap, its realistic martial arts, not a sport. And the wooden dummy is cool but obviously thats not enough to learn kung fu. nobody only learns by the wooden dummy.
@overbayd Guys who say that are full of it. It's true that on the street, there are no rules. However if you are not accustomed to full contact fighting and the feeling of hitting as well as getting hit, you won't be able to do it on the street either. The most important thing is confidence and fighting spirit which good fighters all have. I train Wing Chun as well, but we don't hide behind that excuse of being too deadly. It's way too easy to say that and live in a dream world.
@overbayd you moron... this argument can be summed up with this alternate analogy... i don't have to squeeze the trigger to prove i can blow your fucking brains out. :-)
to further enhance your martial arts, learn to juggle iron balls... do mills mess, the box, and cross armed juggling... nothing trains speed and hand eye co-ordination like juggling does. :-)
@overbayd most people including most martial artists don't find themselves in life threatening situations often or ever. If you ever do need to defend yourself, your training physically and mentally prepares you but it does not mean you're invincible. If you went through this training you would be more dangerous then you are now and potentially more peaceful and wouldn't talk shit online...
@MrMrpanino So you're equating asking a very valid question as talking "shit?" All I did was ask the poster how many times he had actually effected the techniques (successfully). Let me put it to you another way; if ever you are in the situation where you are under the knife for surgery, who do you trust more -- the Dr who has actually performed successful surgeries, or the guy who read about it, practiced the movements, but has never done it. Also, read ANY of my posts.. I never talk "shit".
Hi Shawn, I got into Wing Chun in the early 80s when the PKA first came out and I got owned because I had no hand skills and the boxer tore me. So, I sought out Lee Mo Shan in NYC and began to train in Wing Chun. Then I came out west and became a Golden Glove champion. My traiditon was animal styles with wide arm swings, so when I put on the gloves I was out of my element. However, when I sparred using the open hand and actually struck my opponents in the eyes, then went down fast!
Obasi Hello, my name is Robertson Constantine I own a mudjong manufactures and other products for martial arts, I am congratulating you for the beautiful work in leading the culture of mma wing chun into the octogno
Well, if you think this guy was doing any WC at all, or you think WC doesn't work at all, then you're either lying about taking WC, or you sucked at it, or maybe your sifu sucked at it or they couldn't teach it. Most MMA guys that are pros, as well as pro fighters, take WC to improve their fighting skills. Even the Gracie's told people if they want to be better fighters, to supplement their BJJ ground fighting with Wing Chun. But I guess some anonymous trolls online know more than them, huh? :-)
@403766, how is it my fault if you don't know? Who holds more clout, some anonymous troll that likes to claim "BS" for no reason, or world famous fighters? Anyway, what the hell does WC working or not have to do with MMA? There's never been ANY WC in MMA. The only clips show guys that suck at it, or just claimed they trained in it, but they clearly didn't. Again, who to believe, some nobody (you) posting nonsense on the Internet, or known and respected fighters (real fighters)? hahahaha.
@403766, I can't understand your comment due to the typos you've made. If I understand what you were trying to say, you're saying no fighters would use it (including the legal techniques)? I never once said WC only works for illegal techniques. Again, why do you allege you know more than professionals, including the Gracie's? You think you know more than they do? How many fools bashing WC on Youtube all of the time even train realistically or often? if you did, you'd see it worked. Who cares!?
i was in mma for over three years..... i was tired of attacking constantly of hurting people. so i went out and learned wing chun i now have ten times the fightng power and energy from before. you must understand that taking wing chun for one year is not going to let you master it. however i would like to see anyone here go up against me while i am using wing chun i am trained to adapt to a fight to control any fight no matter how the fight start. obvousily you wer not trained correctly.
@403766 - U mean like u? Who supposedly trained only 1yr, thinking he could be Master level fighter? Your a Liar and a true Joke. Just a big fanboy who doesnt have a clue. Additionally, u didnt even Read the guys reply about being in MMA 3yrs previous.It shows ur poor level or comprehension. Your just an ignorant clueless punk.
Nope, I am telling 100% the truth it is of course you who is ignorant and doesn't have a clue.
The fatc that your telling me I didn;t practise wing chun shows it, look at my old favourites when I was obbsessed with it there full fo them, you may even find old comments of me defneding it.
I could argue for ever, so instead I just say wait until you actually get attacked when of course it will be to late... (please don;t come back with a story about how you disarmed and beat up 3
AND IF YOU THINK BOXING IS EASY YOU'VE JUST PROVED YOU HAVE NEVER DONE IT. So thanks for that, I know wing chun is extremely difficult and takes more than just one year to master for 99% of people, but after that I realized I didn;t want to master a poor fighting style.
ANyway I cbf I probably won;t reply, not because somehow you've "won" but because you have to find out for yourself like I did...
@403766 - At a club,some1got a hot over an ego bruising,& started throwing rapid strikes at me.I parried every1 w/ ease. Then he stepped in w/ hook.I shot my lead hand forward into a wing chun punch.His hook did nothing,but my str8,broke his glasses in 2.He was blind,&searching 4his glasses on the ground.Exchange was over.This all w/ me being a bit wobbly drunk(much drunker than him by far).Not as intense as the full contact sparring,however,the guy was fast,precise,trained well,& Intent.
All these quotes about you beating these guys...where is the video of this. I can say I can fly and stop bullets with my teeth, but without video to prove it its bullshit. There thousands of tapes of guys backing up what they say. The shooto guys from Jabpan and the Gracies are some. I think its funny how you put down people(Which is odd coming from a so called teacher) while at the same time saying how good you are at beating people of other styles with nothing to back it up.
@b7r7u7c7e - When I was serious in the arts,Videocams were large,expensive,low quality¬ widespread. Ive many who witnessed my abilities locally.However, Ive little desire2damage other artists2prove again.The gracies cherrypick their opps, choosing ppl who r very flawed.Actually, its not about Me, its about the Truth of combat. I am a baby is the arts&there r many far more skilled than me. But the ppl u site, r not even close.
@xiaou2 How old are you 120? Hand held cams were not large, expensive, or low quality. So all we have is just you saying that you beat all these boxers, Muay Thi, and ground fighters with ease. You said you could drop Mike Tyson! Mike Tyson! lol And you call me a lie? You sound like that random guy who says he has a thousands street fights with zero loss with NOTHING to back it up. Then at the same time this clown talks down to everyone else.
@b7r7u7c7e - Actually the Jujitsu guys I KO filmed it,but doubtful they would show it.Any good high level artist could defeat Tyson.Hes merely a Boxer w/ limited flawed technique /poor defenses.His knee would b broken before he could land 1 punch.The only thing that Tyson has, is massive power.But that couldnt even keep his career going,as better technical boxers out-boxed him.Ive been defeated,Im not invincible,but I know a lot of things+have exp.that u dont.have currently+have an open mind.
@xiaou2 The jujitsu guys filmed it but you didnt? lol Come on man the more you talk the more its clear YOUR THE ONE THATS A LIE! lol And anybody that knows anything about about boxing will tell you Tyson in his prime had more than "massive power". lol He was a skilled counter puncher, that punched in combos, with fast hands, great head and bodymovement. He got beat by Lewis when he was old and shot, and left his trainer Kevin Rooney. Your 39 not 69 yet you have no vidz sparing, practicing etc???
@b7r7u7c7e - I was pretty poor back then,&cams were expensive for me.Nor did I care at the time.It wasnt about proving2the world,it was about me being able to master an art,for protection.Tysons skills r nothing special to note.There are smaller, faster, more skilled fighters.. some of who are much Older, who still to this date, wouldnt be easily defeated. Speaking of vids, wheres urs? IC nothing but grappling Favs,which show ur 1dimensionality.
@xiaou2 Ok but your 39! Thats not old! lol If you was 60 then ok but 39? And no vidz on sparing, trainng, from this bad ass WC guy? lol My dad was amazing at WC but unlike my brothers I didnt get it. So I tried Karate, didnt like that either. Boxing and Muay thi worked for me and thats what its really all about what works for you. My son take judo but It dosent matter if he takes it 5 years if he dosent like it then he wont get good at it. That why all this talk about I never took it is silly.
boxing has REALISTIC blocks, far mroe basic but they ACTUALLY work you fucking idiot, if you think trapping hands or sticky hands sparring actually is anything other than a joke then please test it on a boxer(you will be battered) or go to town on a busy night and start on some rough looking kid and try that lol please actions speack louder than words... Of course no has seen any wing chun action and yes wing chunist do always get hit int he face when sparring it seems they just have
@403766 - Its Obvious by ur favs that ur a boxing fanboy. Prolly clueless about anything other than boxing. I can take any Boxer, train him in WC for a yr, and give him +90% greater defenses, better ability to land a strike, more accuracy with regards to power levels at impact, and all the good stuff like knowing what to do when I kick comes in.. for Reality based fighting, rather than sport.yes, Ive sparred w/ boxers, as well as artists 100x more dangerous than boxers.
@xiaou2 100x huh. Someone please find xiaou2 a clue. Western Boxing is the most elite striking art in the world. Its not complete but as far as hand skills and defense there is none better. To believe different is to announce that you have no idea what you are talking about.
Sparring a guy trying to box is not sparring a boxer my friend.
@kosheng428 - You are brainwashed, & full or false pride. You clearly have never fought anyone with any real skill depth. I can do everything a boxer can do, however, they cant do what I, and other systems can do... and thats leaving out kicking. Lack of kicking destroys the entire unrealistic sport system of boxing on its own. The reason boxers get hit so often, isnt because they are good.. its because their defenses stink.Its a 'high risk' system, of play-fighting.
@403766 - If boxing were the best way to fight, Chinese would have figured that out in their 2000yrs development timeframe. However, boxing is filled w/ major combat flaws, which can lead to the Opp being Killed. (which is why it was changed) Boxings Sport combat allows them to take repeated blows unhampered, however, real gloveless combat isnt so nice. One mildly decent hit, and its over.Boxing is the basic beginning.Chinese Boxing(kungfu),is Boxing Evolved.
that you can go through a fight without getting hit(you must also learn to take a punch or you will freeze up), boxing has the most realistic blocks WIng Chun IS SHIT DEFENCE there is none, an open guard and blocks that ONLY work if you know when your opponent is going to strike and a shit stance that will not hold up in an actualy fight
3)I have done WIng Chun for over a year along with several others and I have to say I used to think i could take anyone on with an eye jab, yet
I leanred however that it does not work like that and ANYONE can fight dirty, trapping hands = does not work,which is why militaries have never used it along with mma fighters(who could technically use alot of techniques from it) yet they realize it just doesn;lt work in a real fight...
Only when you get attackes will you understand...
and also hit your head agaisnt a table repeatedly for alll the time you wasted on sticky hands and impractical fightign technique.
Trapping hands does work when you're trained correctly and you're conditioned. Conditioning is one of the most forgotten things in wc training because so many believe that softness is the way. Yet when you look at bruce lee striking or anything he shows use of tension. It's about balance. If you have ever had your hands trapped by a master who has also mastered iron palm and body conditioning you will realize it works very well. Every time the hands strike it hurts. Old school ways.
@403766 - 1)Chinese have modern weapons of war.No need 2use high level combat systems which take longer time to master 2)Im self taught in many things,including boxing.Its not difficult,its the most basic motions in the arts.Furthermore,ur ideas on WC are wrong.3)BS,u never took 1yr wc,+in 1yr=not going2b goodenough2get a full skillset+understanding.Various WC IS taught2certain groups of Military.
Chump of the century? What man your age talks like that. Or a sifu of a school? But by looking at your videos Im not suprised by your low level response. A true teacher is someone who responds with respect and try to educate. Not reply in a harsh low level manner. You are a clown and for all your talking about superior skill you have none. Your movements are slow, stiff, and not of a high caliber at all. The fact that most of the things I said was also said by Bruce Lee proves you are a clown.
@b7r7u7c7e - I dish out the same level of respect that I am given. If u want to respond as a liar and a child, then thats the type of reply u will get in return. U have never seen me in action, &even at my sorry shape today,Im far from slow nor stiff. I know more about Lee than you.Ive all his book.Documentarys.And read tons of articles. As well as knowing WC. And utilizing some of his training methods. Ur understanding of Lee is very limited,&that wont change,till u at least have some WC exp.
@xiaou2 "I know more about lee than you" Look how you sound. This is the way a child responds to people. The fact is your simply one of these people who lash out at people who dont agree with them or see there view on a subject. Its like the Tea Party if you dont agree with them then your a lie, child, or idiot. lol Its 2011 there thousands of guys in there 50's 60' that still alteast film there training. The fact that you put down people saying how amazing you are without video is funny.
@b7r7u7c7e - I dont lash out at just anyone, I lash out at disrespectful liars. Plain and simple FACT, you have never trained in WC for over a yr, if at all. Its apparent by your words. Your like a 4yr old with cookie crumbs on his face, trying to fool the parent. You simply dont realize how easy it is to spot the people who Know, from the complete Liars. Meaning, theres not a single shred of doubt in my mind.
xiaou2 I just saw some of your videos. Your silly monkey ass needs to shut the fuck up. Your not even good yourself and I dont believe you beat a boxer or Muay Thi. If you did put it on youtube. At first I was not responding in a emotional level your reply to me was calling me a lie and bull shitter. You are a sad example of a sifu our anyone teaching a style. You come off as someone who if they dont like what they here lash out. True teachers dont do that. You look and sound like a clown.
@b7r7u7c7e - Firstly, I didnt post any of my own vids, for reasons of not needing a line of fighters at my doorstep.Next, Im not a Sifu (tho,I have taught some privately) Ur obvious lack of WC knowledge is well more than apparent,which = liar. I try things b4 I make a judgement.After that, When I hear things that I know arnt true,based on Experience.Im not 1of these copycat teachers,who just like robots,repeat everything without testing them 1st.Which is why many teachers cant fight 4crap.
oh.. and the most important thing in a fight is to use what works. not what is in the book. hence y if you want to be a 'fighter' you learn a little of everything.
@gregslk - More crap. When u train hard & correct, u develop ability to make something work. If u train poorly, almost anythings going to fail. U can know a lot of everything, and still fail at it all. The ppl who Master a few things, can end up wiping the floor with u. Which is why simpler arts tend 2win more... because they have less 2 master. Knowing more is good, but its not a good substitute for true mastery of what was learned.The key to high percentage victory, is Mastery.
there are fights, then there are M.A.s. you dont have to be a master or grandmaster to win a fight and being a great fighter takes practice and experience at kicking punching and ducking. Thats all. If you want to master a M.A. then go master a M.A. it is a lot more than knocking someone out and it takes a lot of patience. if you want to know how to win a fight get in a fight everyday. Very few real GMs will ever put a video of themselves on You Tube knocking someone out. not their style.
@gregslk - BS. Getting into a fight everyday will probably get u killed in no time. And, it doesnt mean you will learn a damn thing besides how much it sucks to get stitches every other day, or being thrown in jail / lawsuits. A fight is done as a last resort. Sparring is one thing, and is beneficial in limited quantities. But a real fight, is very different.
Besides the fact I took Wing Chun from age 5 to 16 by my dad, alot of Wing Chun sifu from other schools say well the reason it didnt work for you in the street is because you dont understand it. lol Look we all know wrestling, BJJ, Judo, Muay Thi works because we see it on tape. We seen these style work on all types of other styles in REAL combat. To be far lets stick with stand up. Is there a tape showing a master WC sifu beating a Boxer, Muay Thi etc?
@b7r7u7c7e - Sorry, but I call Bullshit.No way U did WC for over 10yrs.&if u did, u must b the chump of the century to not get superior skill over some art as simple as a boxer or muay thai. Yeah, your full of Shit. lol
@xiaou2 You must be a hight school drop out to say such silly things. Boxing and Muay Thai is not a simple art. They are deep complex art that takes years to be good at. The greatest stand up fighters of all time was boxers. Ali and Tyson to name a few had very complex fighting style. The top knock out fighters are Muay Thi like Anderson Silva, Chuck Liddel, and The ax murder Silva. My point is when have you seen a Wing Chun master beat anyone on tape or on record. Fact is they always get beat.
@b7r7u7c7e - Boxing nor MT is complex at all. They r the most basic of the arts. Its because u r clueless that u even consider & say something so foolish. Its like saying the drum is more complex than the guitar. Or square dancing is more complex than salsa dancing. Both r highly flawed,& can easily b defeated by an op whos masters a deeper style. I speak from experience, as Ive sparred plenty of these guys, &they simply couldnt touch me...with only limited depth of WC mastered.
@xiaou2 The more you write the more I see how you dont know what the hell your talking about. Bruce Lee in his wrighting said that Wing Chun was very simplistic. Both are not highly flawed. The best most leathal fighters came from boxing and Muay Thi. Bruce Lee later used more boxing and thai in Jeet kun do. Northern Kung Fu styles are very complex and when Bruce Lee would fight them he said it was no contest. Used simple direct punches to finish them.As for you dont think you could beat a silva
@b7r7u7c7e - lol! Lee never used those slow wide arc telegraphed MT kicks. WC is simple in concept,once u know it.Boxing however, is like 1st grade, where as WC is like College.Lees early bouts mean very little.Most of the guys he fought were amateur students.He didnt really get some serious skills till much later in USA. Even then, he was very limited. He just was very good at what stuff he did learn+WC technology pretty much blew thru the typical arts with ease.
@b7r7u7c7e - Also, I can duplicate Anything a boxer or MT player can do w/ ease, w/ plenty of power.However, they cant do what Ive been trained to do. The only difficult thing in boxing,is trying not to get hit... which is nearly impossible due2the poor defensive system.With deeper systems,they realized this,&developed advanced arm interception techs,redirecting,superior parrying,trapping of limbs w/time&mechanical advantage,attacking the limbs,& much more.Boxing is the primitive beginning
@xiaou2 Mike Tyson could not Duplicate a Wing Chun master either but he could kill any of them. Same with Ali or any all time great. You dont know what the hell your talking about. You sound like an idiot, with all that old thinking that Kung Fu is great. Even Bruce Lee said Kung Fu and Later wing chun didnt work in combat.
@b7r7u7c7e - I could drop Tyson just as easy as all the other big guys Ive fought. Hes not anywhere near skilled as u think. Ive fought guys 1000x more skilled & dangerous than him. Quite simple, u clearly havent fought anyone even close to the level Ive experienced, &eventually became. Lee's ideas on WC dont mean squat, considering he didnt even finish level1. Not to mention,he never stopped teaching&training WC.Chisao,drills,&WC interception technology.Ur just an ignorant clueless fanboy+liar
@xiaou2 As a boxer Mike Tyson trained in the very complex system of Cus Damato and got so skilled that he was the hardest fighter to land a solid punch. Not skilled as I think? Who the hell are you? How do you know? Did you spar with him. And your wrong on Bruce Lee. In the Book Bruce Lees Commentaries the martial way he clearly says he closed down his 2 schools. Says he dosent believe in schools, only does private teaching. He stop training in Wc. HE SAYS THIS HIMSELF. This starts on pg 53.
@b7r7u7c7e - No matter what Boxing method he used, its still boxing. Its one dimensional, and very basic. Basic motions, basic principles. And very flawed in Real combat application, which is why boxers get hit in the head the Most out of all the sport arts. Not because others are inferior strikers, but because boxings defense system is crap. Never disputed Lee closing schools. But I highly doubt lee stopped WC completely.All JKD sifus teach WC material to thus date.
@xiaou2 Any combat that allows full contact is going to get hit in the face. When Ive seen all the wing chun fights on youtube and online all I see is guys getting hit in the face. I know your going to say there not as "MASTERFUL" as you. lol But from what ive seen when full contact is allowed they get hit in the face even more! lol It dosent matter if JKD sifus still teach wc. The last 2 years of Bruce life HE DID NOT. And in the book I stated HE SAYS SO HIMSELF! But your the expert on Bruce lo
@b7r7u7c7e - &MT kicks? Basic.Slow.Easy2read.Mastered TKD kickers r far more dangerous w/ kicking.Chinese arts furthermore,arnt limited by sport rules,attack the low leg shins &knees.Ive put a fighter down in less than 2sec round from a stomping kick2his kneecap as he stepped it 2try2hit me.This massive +230lb guy lay crying on the ground for 6min from my (150lbs) kick that was less than 15% power released.Took him 1month2fully recover.That was from a lead leg kick,fast as a jab.
@xiaou2 oh my god you make up some of the most hilarious bullshit on the net i have ever seen. Please come fight me faggot...and please make sure lots of people bring cameras.
@b7r7u7c7e - Its easy2tell the Bullshitters from the PPL who have trained in depth.PPL who have depth,reply with actual technical replies.BS'er have emotional fanboy replies, that have Zero value in them whatsoever. Ur a liar, & a clueless low level nobody fanboy.
@xiaou2 what technical replies have you had? Really, you are 1000x more skilled than Tyson is realistic reply? No wonder WCers are the laughing stock of the MA world.
@kosheng428 - I cant blame you for your Troll, because when you see ppl like this video, who are completely clueless and inept at the system, then no doubt you will think everyone in the system is useless. I despise people like this, who are trashing the systems image. Its one thing to be bad and admit it.. but quite another to be bad and think and brag that you are amazing. This guy should take some boxing lessons btw, might help his horrible coordination, & knock his ego down a peg or three
@xiaou2 My reply had nothing to do with the guy in the video. It had to with your Im more skilled than Tyson BS. Im thinking you have never faced an actual skilled fighter. All those vids on your page are parlor tricks that would be of no use against a trained fighter. I suggest you go to a credible MMA gym, train for awhile and step into a cage to spar one of the seasoned guys. They try your deadly WC and see what happens. Seriously, go try it and see. Thats the only way you will learn.
@kosheng428 - Ive faced a lot of skilled fighters from many & multiple arts, a few Ive sparred could beat Tyson with a single hand & foot in seconds. Tyson isnt nearly as skilled as you think, & there are far more dangerous fighters out there. Id choose to take on Tyson well before being matched up with them, in a real fight. The problem is you are too unaware of whats really out there, whats really possible.. when things are done properly by well trained & serious artist,in advanced systems
@xiaou2 Now you talk about sparred? I could spar Jesus that doesnt mean I could beat his rearend. Are you serious?
I think you being is a real fight is about as realistic as you having walked on the moon.
You and your "Masters" can beat Tyson easily? Really, how do you know? Obviously you War Machines have video of all this right? Wait, I know, too deadly to tape, you are so fast we would see nothing right?
Bruce Lee in many books one of them called Jeet Kune Do Commentaries on the martial way could see that wing chun was not practical in street fighting. Felt it was stiff, lack variety, lacked power(Changed the lead punch to give added power in JKD) and not efficent enough. He changed the classic stance to a south paw boxing stance. Sure there guys in boxing/wrestling that get beat. But its by a boxer/grappler or wrestler. I havent seen a WC guy beat a good boxer, wrestler, or grappler.
Work on your goat riding stance more Shawn. Keep practising my brother, ignore the faceless keyboard warriors.
gringolazlo 4 days ago
cant hear a thing with that awful music playing in the begining
horacrux 4 days ago
why u hit your cloth
hanger
Gojaman 1 week ago
Why are you guys dissing him for practicing? What are you doing with your life huh???? Maybe he just started.....
jin1818 2 weeks ago
This is beyond awful.
MrGuitarHurricane 2 weeks ago
I bet your neighbors loev you.
jeffzahnd 2 weeks ago
Slow down.. Practice before you show off. Speed is only nice to see but it has no substance. Brush up on your horrible technique.
theopinionmanable 2 weeks ago
My gf is chinese doesn't even practice wing chun see this and in 2 seconds tells me your garbage your stance isnt even right
TheTechnoMe 3 weeks ago in playlist More videos from sealthedealobasi
Shawn Obasi,listen just ignore these ignorant people who post their trash on here!most folks whp talk trash and who can't back up their talk need to keep quiet....maybe if more African Americans were involved in this beautiful art of Ving Tsun kung-fu,all the senseless bloodshed would probably stop!
crazyIndianolddog56 3 weeks ago
wak ass wing chun
urbandaniel100 3 weeks ago
This guy is a disgrace for Wing Chun. And an idiot.
Johnnieboy001 3 weeks ago
@Johnnieboy001 Fail to understand your point. This guy has taken Wing Chun and applied it realistically. He has fought all manner of martial arts in a ring and shown his application of Wing Chun works in practice. How is that a disgrace to Wing Chun?
MetalMistress888 1 week ago
@MetalMistress888 dude you were prolly watching another guy named shawn then
Hoodboi005 3 days ago
umm nah sorry bro you shouldnt show off on the net if you cant even practice the martial art properly, this is a disgrace. do a clip of your sil lum tao
macemelee 4 weeks ago
We want to see more of mma fights!!! you are good man!!
elkolodj1 1 month ago in playlist Más vídeos de sealthedealobasi
aren't the elbows not supposed to flare out when doing huen sao?
12wonge 1 month ago
So apparently when your "opponent" is standing perfectly still, you can attack however you want. I'll remember that next time I fight a tree.
elgilicious 1 month ago
@elgilicious Its only 2 improve punch technique.
HipHopHead187 1 month ago
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Shawn Obasi i have seen the footage of how you behaved at your M1 try out's and i just watched "Shawn Seal the Deal Obasi AKA The One Legged Wing Chun Man". U r an embarrassment to Wing Chun and just a dick in general. Pull your head in.
onetao8 2 months ago
so many things wrong with his technique, most basic being his back is not straight and he's striking from his shoulders.
vgrzen34 2 months ago
What a big dummy ;)
onetao8 2 months ago
The best thing about this video is the song.
potkettleblack32 2 months ago
man living next to this guy must make it impossible to sleep
Bluerocka145 2 months ago 2
why is this retard slapping a coat hanger.
andrew31593 2 months ago
@andrew31593 It improves punch technique.
HipHopHead187 1 month ago
@HipHopHead187 How does it ? You punch with your whole body, he is just using his arms so there is little to no power, not only that, he is just slapping which will not hurt what so ever.
andrew31593 1 month ago
@andrew31593 If u knew wat Wing Chun style is u would know that U dont punch wit ur whole body. Da energy supposed 2 come from ur shoulders & arms. That teach u 2 keep a steay body as well movement stability. This system is built on efficiency (less movement less struggle thus using less energy). Its a Close Quarters combat style. Even da way u punch or block or disarming or dropping is meant 2 be used wen ur at close distance wit an enemy or opponent.
HipHopHead187 1 month ago
@andrew31593 continuing... Like i mentioned before da wodden dummy is 2 improve punch & blocking technique. Mostly blocking. U dont attack like that in a fight. Obviously, i thought it waz evident enuff 2 u. Is like a sensitivity drill like da chi sao in Wing Chun. Da point is not 2 see wat ur opponent is gonna do next, u have 2 perceive or feel that they're gonna do next. thats why wooden dummy & sparring compliment each other. both r essential 2 be a good Wing Chun student.
HipHopHead187 1 month ago
@andrew31593 Another thing its not supposed hurt, Wing Chun teaches u 2 condition ur fists as well as 2 avoid injury.It doesnt matter whether u slap it or tap it, da importance is 2 improve sensitivity towards attacks.
HipHopHead187 1 month ago
@HipHopHead187 And you believe that shit ? It might be good for cardio or for people to lose weight, but for fighting that stuff is beyond retarded.
andrew31593 1 month ago
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HipHopHead187 4 weeks ago
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HipHopHead187 4 weeks ago
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@andrew31593 Ur ignorance is irritating......Dont u have any ethics or morals? I never said fighting waz a good thing. defense is 1 aspect of fightin which is wat i waz implyin wen i said "da importance is 2 improve sensitivity towards attacks". Besides Martial Arts is a way of life & 2 condition & improve mentally, physically & spiritually. But i will give u dis, ur absolutely rite, using martial arts for fightin is retarded. but its also subjective wen it comes 2 defense.
HipHopHead187 4 weeks ago
@HipHopHead187 Do what you want i don't care if you waste your time. Wrestling, boxing, ju-jitsu, this is useful shit, the three most important styles to becoming a fighter. There is a reason NONE of the pro MMA fighters do wingchun, 'cause it is bullshit and you are a fool.
andrew31593 4 weeks ago
@andrew31593 Of course it wont in MMA cuz of 2 many restrictions. If it waz a wing chun fighter against a pro MMA fighter in a real fight, wing chun is gonna whoop they ass. Cuz they'll gonna use watever 2 take them down. ok we can agree 2 disagree. Every1 is entitled 2 they opinions.
HipHopHead187 4 weeks ago
@HipHopHead187 You are beyond deluded.
andrew31593 4 weeks ago
@andrew31593 Thas aight, ur entitled 2 ur own opinion.
HipHopHead187 4 weeks ago
Uhhhhhh, what was that? I think I saw a few 'hadoken' type strikes in that "routine"... Yor sound effect were more entertaining to listen to Hahahahahahahaha...
SemiKalosi 2 months ago
Nice work on the dummy.
spee10 2 months ago
I happen to have 6 WC dummys in my School. 1 of them is the same model that you have. If you can borrow a plane (hand or power) and plane each spring 1/8 of an inch front and back, top and bottom you will get a much better reaction from your dummy. it will also slide side to side easily too. also, as an observation, if you were to raise your dummy up to the higher level you would get a better workout. P.S. I train in SF with one of Yip Mans students.. Oh yeah, Ignore all the negativativty.
blackdragonbxr 3 months ago
what alot of utter piss
DeeBo1982 3 months ago
@ilikebigguns i been juggling the balls for a few years now and i have no damage, then again i am a stone mason also... i also have been juggling since 1997.
45x99 3 months ago in playlist Liked videos
cool vid. why does this always have to turn into a TMA vs MMA debate. the man himself said this is a vid of him just freestyling some movements and such. i myself have gotten into the dumb debate and i can honestly say i apoligize for wasting my comments arguing with people.
lawngnome412 3 months ago
@lawngnome412 Alot of MMA has hate for TMA, and vice versa. Alot of MMA and TMA hate Wing Chun. Soo... pretty much every one who is not wing chun hates wing chun with some exceptions. I left Taekwondo to learn some wing chun and they tell me how worthless what I do is (students not teachers). And they tell me, not TKD just that TKD will beat what I do in all situations, but that MMA would. Like theres never been a crap MMA fighter, or TKD. Side note, crap TKD is more often. No offense to TKD.
sangtawon 3 months ago
@sangtawon Wow i left TKD for wing chun too, cool.
xSilkify 2 months ago
You're pretty good at Wing Chun, not gonna lie. However, I still don't see it working in MMA.
MrAlexH1991 3 months ago
I like your formation, and speed- Im an MMA- how many diff types of MA are you familiar with?
jaykeys33 3 months ago
I love to see traditional martial artist thrive in the MMA era. I'm a new school Muay Thai/Submission guy. But I know how the arts I grew up watching have been getting no respect since UFC 1. Does your stance change significantly when you fight due to the looming ground element?
dluv1inc 3 months ago
@SDSoverFiend I can honestly tell you that this guy is NOT qualified to touch that dummy! I know A bit about his Wing Chun background. Before you can hit the Mook Jong, you must first be good at all 3 hand forms and their applications, including chi sau, you should see this guys chi sau, it's repulsive.
WlNGCHUN 3 months ago
Good Work man ! Keep it up buddy ;))
TheReklamfoto 3 months ago
@JulesBadguy Um, yes they do, and kung-fu has no track record of success in real fights, though this video shows that it's good if a tree attacks you.
elgilicious 3 months ago
i like his gloves shawn what tyep of gloves are those :D
crocgator44 3 months ago
Why is he even wearing gloves for a dummy?
doodies1234 3 months ago
@jimmyCrackCorn1989
Which dummy are you referring to? Loooool
SchizophrenicNYC 3 months ago
i believe that dummy has a boner
jimmycrackcorn1981 3 months ago
What a disgrace to my style! Wing Chun is predominately for smaller people, this guy is using too much shoulder and power, trying to out-muscle every technique, not understanding the concept behind the moves, I've seen this guy train with women, he constantly hits them by "mistake", he cannot control his punching, that's why he ends up hitting his training partners, he's sloppy, over commits, too tense, who the hell taught him? Self taught?
SchizophrenicNYC 3 months ago
@SchizophrenicNYC Its not that serious dude. Even if he is self taught he's still finessing it better than 70% of the people on this planet. Will you comment like on everybody else video who you deem "Self Taught"? I for one wish i can do this much let alone i never touched a wing chun dummy before.
SDSOverfiend 3 months ago
LoL @ the "it dont work in MMA" crowd.
real fights dont happen in cages or rings.
JulesBadguy 3 months ago
Too bad you fight like shit in all of the other videos you appear in, you don't even have the correct WC stance in those videos either (;
#fail.
BiGtUFfShT 3 months ago
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im sorry shawn, but your not yet that good at kung fu, that's why you cannot showcase it in the ring...
munggomen 3 months ago
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munggomen 3 months ago
Hahahahahaha your doing all this work BUT Your Head in Wide OPEN ! LMFAO
PLittleManProduction 3 months ago
continue practicing keep up the good work i myself am a practioner and i only started only 3 months ago and i love practicinge with the dummy
TheAsianBoi72ndST 4 months ago
Rock on man, that was the Shizz!! I just started Wing Chun 6 months ago and it is amazing I am working with a Se Fu that was a student of Imen Bosepi, I think I spelled that correct. I cannot wait to get a dummy and be able to perform like that one day soon. I need to get one first and that is the delema of course. But keep up your awsome good work and live long and prosper. Peace.
IxxXGodOfWarXxxI 4 months ago
I am a fan of yours because I love wing chun and you use wing chun as a part of your arsenal. Bruce Lee said keep what works for you and discard the rest. I see that you are a full on grappler as well as a striker. Sounds like the total package to me. Now it's just a matter of moving up the ladder of success and seeing what each level requires. You seem like a good guy. Not mean. I'll watch you fight every chance I get and hope you win. I'll be looking for those wing chun moments;)
Jasper50 4 months ago
I was just curious. Why the gloves? Also in your defense from all the haters on here i've watched your progression over the years and you are getting better and thats what its about. (The journey not the destination)
BlackDragonDojoAZ 4 months ago
too fast, too much force. Take off the gloves.
joojoo456 4 months ago
@sealthedealobasi
your stance, basic structure, and pretty much everything about your wing chun is no good. If you want to do Wing Chun you need to start back at the beginning. It looks like you've been learning from books. Freeze at 1:13 and look at your bong sau. Wu sao=good, bong sao=shite. Also the way you chain your techniques shows a basic lack of understanding. This look like someone who just learned Siu Lim Tao. The footwork/stance is BAD.
START AGAIN FROM SCRATCH!
chushinryoku 4 months ago 14
SUCKS DUDE!!!!!:)
nakzo1987 4 months ago
Shouldn't it be faster ? Seen others do freestyle, and theirs look like lightening speed action. Im sure Shawn has more power than those guys, but still wouldnt hurt for it to be faster.
TonyMon16 4 months ago
Damn this guy!! his like a gorilla trying to practice wing chun!! OMG! dude! honestly!! they way he moves and the way he does it really sux! at wing chun world they will call him the newbie!!. his body size height does not fit wing chun style of martial arts for him LOL.! yeah yeah his choice but WTF he Looks Awefull!! I suggest he tries to find another martial arts that fit him.
MrDUnit69 4 months ago 3
@MrDUnit69 .....why don't you put up a video showing your Wing Chun style and stop being a hater...and the gorilla comment shows your ignorance. I will continue to wait for your Youtube video....but I won't get one.....so.....Shut the fuck up.....have a nice day.....
lspen12 1 month ago
i think this guy just does WC to do it, because he has never fought using the wc system. He fights jujitsu and claims he does wc, and then call it wing itsu or some shit what a loser.
Egomaniacs239 5 months ago
You can have the fastest hands, the most powerful delivery, but if you're not in the right position it's all for nought. Footwork is king and the reason we so often hear about martial artists being taken apart by boxers. The position of Shawn's feet, arguably the most telling indicator as to the level of ones expertise - are not in shot! Shawn, could we get this Vid with footwork Inc? Cheers
BillyJStorm 5 months ago
this is the most ridiculous shit ive ever seen
MMA4twenty 5 months ago
music ruins videos
adam504920 5 months ago
You lack emotional content.
TheKidkayoz 5 months ago
stop talking theory and hit your target .
dragon31sholin 5 months ago
you are good but why use the same move and your slow and i think you can do better then that you need more speed and power plus more practice i too study it but im creating somthing new mabe more powerful then bruce lees but im still working on it so far im almost as fast as bruce lee but i know it takes more then speed to take it to a new level .
dragon31sholin 5 months ago
enough Wing Chun to give you bit faster hands to beat the shit of MMA wonabes :D
XW0RKS 5 months ago
does this guy have on mma gloves for the jong?
MrNOTORIOUSCal 5 months ago
Part 2. Please tell Joe Rogan that in a real situation with a real tradionalist that the open hands make a difference. Got to the guard and bite your opponents throat. Get mounted and thro an upward fing strike to the throat or eyes. If you watch most MMA fighters who get mounted they will roll with the arms extended. A kung-fu artist will use the same method to grab underneath the eyes and rake down. Get in a clinch and pull a Mike Tyson ear bite. Joe needs to know that MMA is a sport!
kaloshilo 5 months ago
@kaloshilo If I understand you correctly, you don't fight because you're TOO dangerous? Out of curiosity, how many throats have you bitten in your kung fu training? Please tell me how many "upward fing strikes" to the throat or eyes have you actually done successfully while mounted? How many eyes have you actually grabbed? My guess... zero in all cases. So you would effectively be fighting me with THEORY? With techniques that you THINK work? Just curious. =/
overbayd 5 months ago 34
@overbayd
you can also see my wooden dummy 7 day's work cost around 60$
01sidiropoulos 5 months ago
@overbayd youre a fucking idiot. if you're a gun expert in shooting range why would u do ACTUAL head shots to prove it works? dude it works, but why would u kill someone with a move just to prove to yourself it works? lol
u watch too much ufc
metalhead33 5 months ago
@metalhead33 The gun experts actually pull the trigger and effect the shot, even in practice. I have zero confidence in someone who says they are an expert in something they have never actually done. I'm a former Choy Li Fut instructor - I know what it means to have that false sense of confidence. Now, I train in Muay Thai and BJJ; and, I watch very little to no UFC. But hey, you keep with your bias, delusions and name calling. It lets everyone know how very little intelligence you possess.
overbayd 5 months ago
@overbayd and just like the gun experts, a good wing chun fighter spars for real with gloves on, and if he's gonna gouge eyes of strike the throat, he does it for real on a life size dummy. he does this so much that it becomes second nature to him. Now im sorry if you wasted years on a style that sucks, or that you guys pretended to do the moves to the air. Me and my buddies been doing muay thai and BJJ for years, but recently started full contact wing chun, cuz MT and BJJ just arent enough :)
metalhead33 5 months ago
@metalhead33 I've been in MT/BJJ for about 3 years, and MMA for about a year, so no need for your mock sympathy. As far as your training, it seems you're not in traditional WC where the main striking emphasis is thru chi sao/wooden dummy. More power to you, but you're not the kung fu norm. I was making a point on those who claim to be too dangerous, where in a clinch they'll resort to eye this, groin that, throat here, bite there. It's BS, and the majority of the fighting community knows it.
overbayd 5 months ago
@overbayd well the truth is mma is a sport, under certain strict rules, not intended for realistic street self defense. if you wanna learn mma to cage fight for the fun of it then great, but in the streets people can use whatever works, eye gouge, hits to throat, w/e. Its not BS, and its not cheap, its realistic martial arts, not a sport. And the wooden dummy is cool but obviously thats not enough to learn kung fu. nobody only learns by the wooden dummy.
metalhead33 5 months ago
@overbayd Guys who say that are full of it. It's true that on the street, there are no rules. However if you are not accustomed to full contact fighting and the feeling of hitting as well as getting hit, you won't be able to do it on the street either. The most important thing is confidence and fighting spirit which good fighters all have. I train Wing Chun as well, but we don't hide behind that excuse of being too deadly. It's way too easy to say that and live in a dream world.
hulkout666 4 months ago
@overbayd you moron... this argument can be summed up with this alternate analogy... i don't have to squeeze the trigger to prove i can blow your fucking brains out. :-)
45x99 3 months ago
to further enhance your martial arts, learn to juggle iron balls... do mills mess, the box, and cross armed juggling... nothing trains speed and hand eye co-ordination like juggling does. :-)
45x99 3 months ago
@overbayd most people including most martial artists don't find themselves in life threatening situations often or ever. If you ever do need to defend yourself, your training physically and mentally prepares you but it does not mean you're invincible. If you went through this training you would be more dangerous then you are now and potentially more peaceful and wouldn't talk shit online...
MrMrpanino 3 months ago
@MrMrpanino So you're equating asking a very valid question as talking "shit?" All I did was ask the poster how many times he had actually effected the techniques (successfully). Let me put it to you another way; if ever you are in the situation where you are under the knife for surgery, who do you trust more -- the Dr who has actually performed successful surgeries, or the guy who read about it, practiced the movements, but has never done it. Also, read ANY of my posts.. I never talk "shit".
overbayd 3 months ago
Hi Shawn, I got into Wing Chun in the early 80s when the PKA first came out and I got owned because I had no hand skills and the boxer tore me. So, I sought out Lee Mo Shan in NYC and began to train in Wing Chun. Then I came out west and became a Golden Glove champion. My traiditon was animal styles with wide arm swings, so when I put on the gloves I was out of my element. However, when I sparred using the open hand and actually struck my opponents in the eyes, then went down fast!
kaloshilo 5 months ago
shawn did you end up having your , win or lose always respect! Fighterman
fightermanizdebest 5 months ago 6
Obasi Hello, my name is Robertson Constantine I own a mudjong manufactures and other products for martial arts, I am congratulating you for the beautiful work in leading the culture of mma wing chun into the octogno
Good luck in your fights
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constantinosports 5 months ago
Comical and stupid
ragethedemon 5 months ago
Well, if you think this guy was doing any WC at all, or you think WC doesn't work at all, then you're either lying about taking WC, or you sucked at it, or maybe your sifu sucked at it or they couldn't teach it. Most MMA guys that are pros, as well as pro fighters, take WC to improve their fighting skills. Even the Gracie's told people if they want to be better fighters, to supplement their BJJ ground fighting with Wing Chun. But I guess some anonymous trolls online know more than them, huh? :-)
tgreer0120 5 months ago
@tgreer0120
That would be a good point if it wasn;t bullshit crap what mma fighters and when have gracie students done this..
403766 5 months ago
@403766, how is it my fault if you don't know? Who holds more clout, some anonymous troll that likes to claim "BS" for no reason, or world famous fighters? Anyway, what the hell does WC working or not have to do with MMA? There's never been ANY WC in MMA. The only clips show guys that suck at it, or just claimed they trained in it, but they clearly didn't. Again, who to believe, some nobody (you) posting nonsense on the Internet, or known and respected fighters (real fighters)? hahahaha.
tgreer0120 5 months ago
@tgreer0120
if you read it I just said there are no fighters wh useit not even thelegal techniques because it doesn;t work...
403766 5 months ago
@403766, I can't understand your comment due to the typos you've made. If I understand what you were trying to say, you're saying no fighters would use it (including the legal techniques)? I never once said WC only works for illegal techniques. Again, why do you allege you know more than professionals, including the Gracie's? You think you know more than they do? How many fools bashing WC on Youtube all of the time even train realistically or often? if you did, you'd see it worked. Who cares!?
tgreer0120 5 months ago
i was in mma for over three years..... i was tired of attacking constantly of hurting people. so i went out and learned wing chun i now have ten times the fightng power and energy from before. you must understand that taking wing chun for one year is not going to let you master it. however i would like to see anyone here go up against me while i am using wing chun i am trained to adapt to a fight to control any fight no matter how the fight start. obvousily you wer not trained correctly.
brianmanley100 5 months ago
@brianmanley100
Go back the gym or street you will be in or a nasty surprise, as is the story with pretty much all wing chun fighters who try it..
403766 5 months ago
@403766 - U mean like u? Who supposedly trained only 1yr, thinking he could be Master level fighter? Your a Liar and a true Joke. Just a big fanboy who doesnt have a clue. Additionally, u didnt even Read the guys reply about being in MMA 3yrs previous.It shows ur poor level or comprehension. Your just an ignorant clueless punk.
xiaou2 5 months ago
@xiaou2
Nope, I am telling 100% the truth it is of course you who is ignorant and doesn't have a clue.
The fatc that your telling me I didn;t practise wing chun shows it, look at my old favourites when I was obbsessed with it there full fo them, you may even find old comments of me defneding it.
I could argue for ever, so instead I just say wait until you actually get attacked when of course it will be to late... (please don;t come back with a story about how you disarmed and beat up 3
403766 5 months ago
@403766
harderned attackers lol).
AND IF YOU THINK BOXING IS EASY YOU'VE JUST PROVED YOU HAVE NEVER DONE IT. So thanks for that, I know wing chun is extremely difficult and takes more than just one year to master for 99% of people, but after that I realized I didn;t want to master a poor fighting style.
ANyway I cbf I probably won;t reply, not because somehow you've "won" but because you have to find out for yourself like I did...
403766 5 months ago
@403766 - At a club,some1got a hot over an ego bruising,& started throwing rapid strikes at me.I parried every1 w/ ease. Then he stepped in w/ hook.I shot my lead hand forward into a wing chun punch.His hook did nothing,but my str8,broke his glasses in 2.He was blind,&searching 4his glasses on the ground.Exchange was over.This all w/ me being a bit wobbly drunk(much drunker than him by far).Not as intense as the full contact sparring,however,the guy was fast,precise,trained well,& Intent.
xiaou2 5 months ago
@xiaou2 cool story bro
victorvanvas 5 months ago
@xiaou2
Haha you just made my day with that story, sorry I offended you jackie chan please don't come and kill me.
403766 5 months ago
good stuff Shawn.
sifurahsun 5 months ago
Obasi, you are great but if you work on your foot works and grapling more, nobody can stop you.
funkeemon 6 months ago
All these quotes about you beating these guys...where is the video of this. I can say I can fly and stop bullets with my teeth, but without video to prove it its bullshit. There thousands of tapes of guys backing up what they say. The shooto guys from Jabpan and the Gracies are some. I think its funny how you put down people(Which is odd coming from a so called teacher) while at the same time saying how good you are at beating people of other styles with nothing to back it up.
b7r7u7c7e 6 months ago
@b7r7u7c7e - When I was serious in the arts,Videocams were large,expensive,low quality¬ widespread. Ive many who witnessed my abilities locally.However, Ive little desire2damage other artists2prove again.The gracies cherrypick their opps, choosing ppl who r very flawed.Actually, its not about Me, its about the Truth of combat. I am a baby is the arts&there r many far more skilled than me. But the ppl u site, r not even close.
xiaou2 6 months ago
@xiaou2 How old are you 120? Hand held cams were not large, expensive, or low quality. So all we have is just you saying that you beat all these boxers, Muay Thi, and ground fighters with ease. You said you could drop Mike Tyson! Mike Tyson! lol And you call me a lie? You sound like that random guy who says he has a thousands street fights with zero loss with NOTHING to back it up. Then at the same time this clown talks down to everyone else.
b7r7u7c7e 6 months ago
@b7r7u7c7e - Actually the Jujitsu guys I KO filmed it,but doubtful they would show it.Any good high level artist could defeat Tyson.Hes merely a Boxer w/ limited flawed technique /poor defenses.His knee would b broken before he could land 1 punch.The only thing that Tyson has, is massive power.But that couldnt even keep his career going,as better technical boxers out-boxed him.Ive been defeated,Im not invincible,but I know a lot of things+have exp.that u dont.have currently+have an open mind.
xiaou2 6 months ago
@xiaou2 The jujitsu guys filmed it but you didnt? lol Come on man the more you talk the more its clear YOUR THE ONE THATS A LIE! lol And anybody that knows anything about about boxing will tell you Tyson in his prime had more than "massive power". lol He was a skilled counter puncher, that punched in combos, with fast hands, great head and bodymovement. He got beat by Lewis when he was old and shot, and left his trainer Kevin Rooney. Your 39 not 69 yet you have no vidz sparing, practicing etc???
b7r7u7c7e 6 months ago
@b7r7u7c7e - I was pretty poor back then,&cams were expensive for me.Nor did I care at the time.It wasnt about proving2the world,it was about me being able to master an art,for protection.Tysons skills r nothing special to note.There are smaller, faster, more skilled fighters.. some of who are much Older, who still to this date, wouldnt be easily defeated. Speaking of vids, wheres urs? IC nothing but grappling Favs,which show ur 1dimensionality.
xiaou2 6 months ago
@xiaou2 Ok but your 39! Thats not old! lol If you was 60 then ok but 39? And no vidz on sparing, trainng, from this bad ass WC guy? lol My dad was amazing at WC but unlike my brothers I didnt get it. So I tried Karate, didnt like that either. Boxing and Muay thi worked for me and thats what its really all about what works for you. My son take judo but It dosent matter if he takes it 5 years if he dosent like it then he wont get good at it. That why all this talk about I never took it is silly.
b7r7u7c7e 6 months ago
@xiaou2
boxing has REALISTIC blocks, far mroe basic but they ACTUALLY work you fucking idiot, if you think trapping hands or sticky hands sparring actually is anything other than a joke then please test it on a boxer(you will be battered) or go to town on a busy night and start on some rough looking kid and try that lol please actions speack louder than words... Of course no has seen any wing chun action and yes wing chunist do always get hit int he face when sparring it seems they just have
403766 5 months ago
@403766 - Its Obvious by ur favs that ur a boxing fanboy. Prolly clueless about anything other than boxing. I can take any Boxer, train him in WC for a yr, and give him +90% greater defenses, better ability to land a strike, more accuracy with regards to power levels at impact, and all the good stuff like knowing what to do when I kick comes in.. for Reality based fighting, rather than sport.yes, Ive sparred w/ boxers, as well as artists 100x more dangerous than boxers.
xiaou2 5 months ago
@xiaou2 100x huh. Someone please find xiaou2 a clue. Western Boxing is the most elite striking art in the world. Its not complete but as far as hand skills and defense there is none better. To believe different is to announce that you have no idea what you are talking about.
Sparring a guy trying to box is not sparring a boxer my friend.
kosheng428 4 months ago
@kosheng428 - You are brainwashed, & full or false pride. You clearly have never fought anyone with any real skill depth. I can do everything a boxer can do, however, they cant do what I, and other systems can do... and thats leaving out kicking. Lack of kicking destroys the entire unrealistic sport system of boxing on its own. The reason boxers get hit so often, isnt because they are good.. its because their defenses stink.Its a 'high risk' system, of play-fighting.
xiaou2 4 months ago
@403766 - If boxing were the best way to fight, Chinese would have figured that out in their 2000yrs development timeframe. However, boxing is filled w/ major combat flaws, which can lead to the Opp being Killed. (which is why it was changed) Boxings Sport combat allows them to take repeated blows unhampered, however, real gloveless combat isnt so nice. One mildly decent hit, and its over.Boxing is the basic beginning.Chinese Boxing(kungfu),is Boxing Evolved.
xiaou2 5 months ago
@xiaou2
THATS NOT EVEN A POINT!
So wign chu is better because apparently the chinese would have worked out if boxing was better? MAO do you have any idea how retarded you sound?
I have three things to tell you
1)The Chinese Arm uses "Sanda" Kung Fu, in other words KICKBOXING, it seems they did figure it out... Why change if its so shit
2)YOU HAVE NEVER BOXED if yu think its about getting hit, that is only due to poor defence but of course as you have not done both you will assume
403766 5 months ago
@403766
that you can go through a fight without getting hit(you must also learn to take a punch or you will freeze up), boxing has the most realistic blocks WIng Chun IS SHIT DEFENCE there is none, an open guard and blocks that ONLY work if you know when your opponent is going to strike and a shit stance that will not hold up in an actualy fight
3)I have done WIng Chun for over a year along with several others and I have to say I used to think i could take anyone on with an eye jab, yet
403766 5 months ago
@403766
I leanred however that it does not work like that and ANYONE can fight dirty, trapping hands = does not work,which is why militaries have never used it along with mma fighters(who could technically use alot of techniques from it) yet they realize it just doesn;lt work in a real fight...
Only when you get attackes will you understand...
and also hit your head agaisnt a table repeatedly for alll the time you wasted on sticky hands and impractical fightign technique.
403766 5 months ago
@403766
Trapping hands does work when you're trained correctly and you're conditioned. Conditioning is one of the most forgotten things in wc training because so many believe that softness is the way. Yet when you look at bruce lee striking or anything he shows use of tension. It's about balance. If you have ever had your hands trapped by a master who has also mastered iron palm and body conditioning you will realize it works very well. Every time the hands strike it hurts. Old school ways.
jaydaz27 5 months ago
@403766 - 1)Chinese have modern weapons of war.No need 2use high level combat systems which take longer time to master 2)Im self taught in many things,including boxing.Its not difficult,its the most basic motions in the arts.Furthermore,ur ideas on WC are wrong.3)BS,u never took 1yr wc,+in 1yr=not going2b goodenough2get a full skillset+understanding.Various WC IS taught2certain groups of Military.
xiaou2 5 months ago
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@xiaou2 Tyson's skills where nothing special? You are a troll
kosheng428 4 months ago
Chump of the century? What man your age talks like that. Or a sifu of a school? But by looking at your videos Im not suprised by your low level response. A true teacher is someone who responds with respect and try to educate. Not reply in a harsh low level manner. You are a clown and for all your talking about superior skill you have none. Your movements are slow, stiff, and not of a high caliber at all. The fact that most of the things I said was also said by Bruce Lee proves you are a clown.
b7r7u7c7e 6 months ago
@b7r7u7c7e - I dish out the same level of respect that I am given. If u want to respond as a liar and a child, then thats the type of reply u will get in return. U have never seen me in action, &even at my sorry shape today,Im far from slow nor stiff. I know more about Lee than you.Ive all his book.Documentarys.And read tons of articles. As well as knowing WC. And utilizing some of his training methods. Ur understanding of Lee is very limited,&that wont change,till u at least have some WC exp.
xiaou2 6 months ago
@xiaou2 "I know more about lee than you" Look how you sound. This is the way a child responds to people. The fact is your simply one of these people who lash out at people who dont agree with them or see there view on a subject. Its like the Tea Party if you dont agree with them then your a lie, child, or idiot. lol Its 2011 there thousands of guys in there 50's 60' that still alteast film there training. The fact that you put down people saying how amazing you are without video is funny.
b7r7u7c7e 6 months ago
@b7r7u7c7e - I dont lash out at just anyone, I lash out at disrespectful liars. Plain and simple FACT, you have never trained in WC for over a yr, if at all. Its apparent by your words. Your like a 4yr old with cookie crumbs on his face, trying to fool the parent. You simply dont realize how easy it is to spot the people who Know, from the complete Liars. Meaning, theres not a single shred of doubt in my mind.
xiaou2 6 months ago
xiaou2 I just saw some of your videos. Your silly monkey ass needs to shut the fuck up. Your not even good yourself and I dont believe you beat a boxer or Muay Thi. If you did put it on youtube. At first I was not responding in a emotional level your reply to me was calling me a lie and bull shitter. You are a sad example of a sifu our anyone teaching a style. You come off as someone who if they dont like what they here lash out. True teachers dont do that. You look and sound like a clown.
b7r7u7c7e 6 months ago
@b7r7u7c7e - Firstly, I didnt post any of my own vids, for reasons of not needing a line of fighters at my doorstep.Next, Im not a Sifu (tho,I have taught some privately) Ur obvious lack of WC knowledge is well more than apparent,which = liar. I try things b4 I make a judgement.After that, When I hear things that I know arnt true,based on Experience.Im not 1of these copycat teachers,who just like robots,repeat everything without testing them 1st.Which is why many teachers cant fight 4crap.
xiaou2 6 months ago
oh.. and the most important thing in a fight is to use what works. not what is in the book. hence y if you want to be a 'fighter' you learn a little of everything.
gregslk 6 months ago
@gregslk - More crap. When u train hard & correct, u develop ability to make something work. If u train poorly, almost anythings going to fail. U can know a lot of everything, and still fail at it all. The ppl who Master a few things, can end up wiping the floor with u. Which is why simpler arts tend 2win more... because they have less 2 master. Knowing more is good, but its not a good substitute for true mastery of what was learned.The key to high percentage victory, is Mastery.
xiaou2 6 months ago
there are fights, then there are M.A.s. you dont have to be a master or grandmaster to win a fight and being a great fighter takes practice and experience at kicking punching and ducking. Thats all. If you want to master a M.A. then go master a M.A. it is a lot more than knocking someone out and it takes a lot of patience. if you want to know how to win a fight get in a fight everyday. Very few real GMs will ever put a video of themselves on You Tube knocking someone out. not their style.
gregslk 6 months ago
@gregslk - BS. Getting into a fight everyday will probably get u killed in no time. And, it doesnt mean you will learn a damn thing besides how much it sucks to get stitches every other day, or being thrown in jail / lawsuits. A fight is done as a last resort. Sparring is one thing, and is beneficial in limited quantities. But a real fight, is very different.
xiaou2 6 months ago
Besides the fact I took Wing Chun from age 5 to 16 by my dad, alot of Wing Chun sifu from other schools say well the reason it didnt work for you in the street is because you dont understand it. lol Look we all know wrestling, BJJ, Judo, Muay Thi works because we see it on tape. We seen these style work on all types of other styles in REAL combat. To be far lets stick with stand up. Is there a tape showing a master WC sifu beating a Boxer, Muay Thi etc?
b7r7u7c7e 6 months ago
@b7r7u7c7e - Sorry, but I call Bullshit.No way U did WC for over 10yrs.&if u did, u must b the chump of the century to not get superior skill over some art as simple as a boxer or muay thai. Yeah, your full of Shit. lol
xiaou2 6 months ago
@xiaou2 You must be a hight school drop out to say such silly things. Boxing and Muay Thai is not a simple art. They are deep complex art that takes years to be good at. The greatest stand up fighters of all time was boxers. Ali and Tyson to name a few had very complex fighting style. The top knock out fighters are Muay Thi like Anderson Silva, Chuck Liddel, and The ax murder Silva. My point is when have you seen a Wing Chun master beat anyone on tape or on record. Fact is they always get beat.
b7r7u7c7e 6 months ago
@b7r7u7c7e - Boxing nor MT is complex at all. They r the most basic of the arts. Its because u r clueless that u even consider & say something so foolish. Its like saying the drum is more complex than the guitar. Or square dancing is more complex than salsa dancing. Both r highly flawed,& can easily b defeated by an op whos masters a deeper style. I speak from experience, as Ive sparred plenty of these guys, &they simply couldnt touch me...with only limited depth of WC mastered.
xiaou2 6 months ago
@xiaou2 The more you write the more I see how you dont know what the hell your talking about. Bruce Lee in his wrighting said that Wing Chun was very simplistic. Both are not highly flawed. The best most leathal fighters came from boxing and Muay Thi. Bruce Lee later used more boxing and thai in Jeet kun do. Northern Kung Fu styles are very complex and when Bruce Lee would fight them he said it was no contest. Used simple direct punches to finish them.As for you dont think you could beat a silva
b7r7u7c7e 6 months ago
@b7r7u7c7e - lol! Lee never used those slow wide arc telegraphed MT kicks. WC is simple in concept,once u know it.Boxing however, is like 1st grade, where as WC is like College.Lees early bouts mean very little.Most of the guys he fought were amateur students.He didnt really get some serious skills till much later in USA. Even then, he was very limited. He just was very good at what stuff he did learn+WC technology pretty much blew thru the typical arts with ease.
xiaou2 6 months ago
@xiaou2 Thats because you turned around and ran for you life you troll
kosheng428 4 months ago
@b7r7u7c7e - Also, I can duplicate Anything a boxer or MT player can do w/ ease, w/ plenty of power.However, they cant do what Ive been trained to do. The only difficult thing in boxing,is trying not to get hit... which is nearly impossible due2the poor defensive system.With deeper systems,they realized this,&developed advanced arm interception techs,redirecting,superior parrying,trapping of limbs w/time&mechanical advantage,attacking the limbs,& much more.Boxing is the primitive beginning
xiaou2 6 months ago
@xiaou2 Mike Tyson could not Duplicate a Wing Chun master either but he could kill any of them. Same with Ali or any all time great. You dont know what the hell your talking about. You sound like an idiot, with all that old thinking that Kung Fu is great. Even Bruce Lee said Kung Fu and Later wing chun didnt work in combat.
b7r7u7c7e 6 months ago
@b7r7u7c7e - I could drop Tyson just as easy as all the other big guys Ive fought. Hes not anywhere near skilled as u think. Ive fought guys 1000x more skilled & dangerous than him. Quite simple, u clearly havent fought anyone even close to the level Ive experienced, &eventually became. Lee's ideas on WC dont mean squat, considering he didnt even finish level1. Not to mention,he never stopped teaching&training WC.Chisao,drills,&WC interception technology.Ur just an ignorant clueless fanboy+liar
xiaou2 6 months ago
@xiaou2 As a boxer Mike Tyson trained in the very complex system of Cus Damato and got so skilled that he was the hardest fighter to land a solid punch. Not skilled as I think? Who the hell are you? How do you know? Did you spar with him. And your wrong on Bruce Lee. In the Book Bruce Lees Commentaries the martial way he clearly says he closed down his 2 schools. Says he dosent believe in schools, only does private teaching. He stop training in Wc. HE SAYS THIS HIMSELF. This starts on pg 53.
b7r7u7c7e 6 months ago
@b7r7u7c7e - No matter what Boxing method he used, its still boxing. Its one dimensional, and very basic. Basic motions, basic principles. And very flawed in Real combat application, which is why boxers get hit in the head the Most out of all the sport arts. Not because others are inferior strikers, but because boxings defense system is crap. Never disputed Lee closing schools. But I highly doubt lee stopped WC completely.All JKD sifus teach WC material to thus date.
xiaou2 6 months ago
@xiaou2 Any combat that allows full contact is going to get hit in the face. When Ive seen all the wing chun fights on youtube and online all I see is guys getting hit in the face. I know your going to say there not as "MASTERFUL" as you. lol But from what ive seen when full contact is allowed they get hit in the face even more! lol It dosent matter if JKD sifus still teach wc. The last 2 years of Bruce life HE DID NOT. And in the book I stated HE SAYS SO HIMSELF! But your the expert on Bruce lo
b7r7u7c7e 6 months ago
@b7r7u7c7e - &MT kicks? Basic.Slow.Easy2read.Mastered TKD kickers r far more dangerous w/ kicking.Chinese arts furthermore,arnt limited by sport rules,attack the low leg shins &knees.Ive put a fighter down in less than 2sec round from a stomping kick2his kneecap as he stepped it 2try2hit me.This massive +230lb guy lay crying on the ground for 6min from my (150lbs) kick that was less than 15% power released.Took him 1month2fully recover.That was from a lead leg kick,fast as a jab.
xiaou2 6 months ago
@xiaou2 oh my god you make up some of the most hilarious bullshit on the net i have ever seen. Please come fight me faggot...and please make sure lots of people bring cameras.
myjizzureye 5 months ago
@b7r7u7c7e - Its easy2tell the Bullshitters from the PPL who have trained in depth.PPL who have depth,reply with actual technical replies.BS'er have emotional fanboy replies, that have Zero value in them whatsoever. Ur a liar, & a clueless low level nobody fanboy.
xiaou2 6 months ago
@xiaou2 what technical replies have you had? Really, you are 1000x more skilled than Tyson is realistic reply? No wonder WCers are the laughing stock of the MA world.
kosheng428 4 months ago
@kosheng428 - I cant blame you for your Troll, because when you see ppl like this video, who are completely clueless and inept at the system, then no doubt you will think everyone in the system is useless. I despise people like this, who are trashing the systems image. Its one thing to be bad and admit it.. but quite another to be bad and think and brag that you are amazing. This guy should take some boxing lessons btw, might help his horrible coordination, & knock his ego down a peg or three
xiaou2 4 months ago
@xiaou2 My reply had nothing to do with the guy in the video. It had to with your Im more skilled than Tyson BS. Im thinking you have never faced an actual skilled fighter. All those vids on your page are parlor tricks that would be of no use against a trained fighter. I suggest you go to a credible MMA gym, train for awhile and step into a cage to spar one of the seasoned guys. They try your deadly WC and see what happens. Seriously, go try it and see. Thats the only way you will learn.
kosheng428 4 months ago
@kosheng428 - Ive faced a lot of skilled fighters from many & multiple arts, a few Ive sparred could beat Tyson with a single hand & foot in seconds. Tyson isnt nearly as skilled as you think, & there are far more dangerous fighters out there. Id choose to take on Tyson well before being matched up with them, in a real fight. The problem is you are too unaware of whats really out there, whats really possible.. when things are done properly by well trained & serious artist,in advanced systems
xiaou2 4 months ago
@xiaou2 Now you talk about sparred? I could spar Jesus that doesnt mean I could beat his rearend. Are you serious?
I think you being is a real fight is about as realistic as you having walked on the moon.
You and your "Masters" can beat Tyson easily? Really, how do you know? Obviously you War Machines have video of all this right? Wait, I know, too deadly to tape, you are so fast we would see nothing right?
VIDEO OR IT DIDN'T HAPPEN, FANTASYLAND!
Oh crap I forgot to say No Magic Use! Poo
kosheng428 4 months ago
@kosheng428 Sorry I meant, "I think you being in a real fight is realistic as you having walked on the moon."
kosheng428 4 months ago
Bruce Lee in many books one of them called Jeet Kune Do Commentaries on the martial way could see that wing chun was not practical in street fighting. Felt it was stiff, lack variety, lacked power(Changed the lead punch to give added power in JKD) and not efficent enough. He changed the classic stance to a south paw boxing stance. Sure there guys in boxing/wrestling that get beat. But its by a boxer/grappler or wrestler. I havent seen a WC guy beat a good boxer, wrestler, or grappler.
b7r7u7c7e 6 months ago