My understanding is that... 1.) Richard Gardner lost his hospital admitting privileges in 1978. 2.) From 1983 to 2003, he was in an unpaid volunteer position at Columbia University. 3.) For 20 years he fraudulently claimed to be a professor.
@MyChildIsBeingAbused You have it absolutly correct. Richard Gardner pulled off one of the most successful international con tricks ever. I am surprised Hollywood hasn't done a film about him yet, like they have with Kinsey (Nice piece of propaganda that was too) They could pay tribute to Rob Redford and Paul Newmans excellent con trick film with the title as well, they could call it THE STINK!
Why these boys were forced to visit the father who had abused them? Abusers are seeing their children and being given custody. This happens for many reasons: A "default" occurs- when the other parent's attorney does not show up at court, the Guardian Ad Litem lacks the ability to remain neutral and in the best interests of the child- i.e. takes sides, the abuser has more money, false allegations, because the abuse is not "believed," etc The story is in the Pittsburgh-Post Gazette.
If you and you're partner choose to defend a roaring paedophile psychologist and use his claptrap syndrome for your own purpose then you're making a statement by your own actions, and don't need me to make comment!
Realzoomy...one question! since you believe so venomously that PAS is only used by abusers and pedophiles, does it make me a pedophile or an abuser? since my partner and I have seen all the evidence of PAS in his son. Do I, a 29 yo christian white female , fit the profile of a pedophile or an abuser because I believe PAS to be real? Why dont you just accept that every symptom of PAS I have researched explains my partners son and his ex to a T? wouldnt you believe if it happened to you?
btw. The 'diary' was written several weeks before this kid killed himself. Dont you think the parental conflict has more to do with this than anything else? The abuse allegations were unfounded due to the mother continuously telling the children they were abused in the passed as the children had witnessed violence towards their mother from their father. although guilty of this, the father had not been violent to the children.
Chopstick Sue, you ought to be really careful of messing with God. I would not do it, I would be much too scared to do what you are doing.
You know Richard Gardner was a paedophile just as well as I do. You know it yourself.
Instead of trying to defend the indefencible, you ought to make your peace with your Creator.
I forgive you for all the wicked things you have said to me. Please, for your own sake, turn away from this evil and save yourself from the wrath to come.
Jesus had very sharp words of warning to the crafty Pharasees who sought to trick him with their weasel words. He said this:
"There is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed, or hidden that will not be made known. What you have said in the dark will be heard in the daylight, and what you have whispered in the ear in the inner rooms will be proclaimed from the roofs ... Fear him who, after the killing of the body, has power to throw you into hell"
Also can I just add where did you get your info on this case? was it some mothers 4 justice website? Also it does not say and it could be twisted for this reason - but how do you know the boy was not talking about his mother being an 'endless torment'? food for thought......
Realzoomy, why dont you look up and read testimonials of adults who suffered from PAS when they were children. They will tell you exactly what went on who done the manipulation and brainwashing and exactly how it made them think and feel. Theres you proof that PAS exists.
Theres a lot more to this story then what you mention in your video. BOTH the MOTHER and FATHER are to blame for the death of their son. BOTH parents were ANGRY, VINDICTIVE, and SELFISH people that used their children as pawns to pay the other one back. Their son paid a very high price for this emotional conflict. Im sure Nathan would have handled the rejection of his girlfriend better had his parents not been fighting.
"You forget to mention that he is not saying that this is acceptable just that it has occurred throughout history"
I didn't forget anything.
BTW, I notice that cock sucking statue has been removed from he big house near Haut de la Garenne. I'm sure you must now the one I am referring to, seeing as to how we are talking about Grecian art, or should I say, mock Grecian art?
Suddenly it doesn not all look so innocent any more, what with the riff raff beginning to understand the "joke"!
lol you never stop do you? my comment is the same comment as above. I just corrected a spelling mistake. And yes I support richard gardners work. What you insist is evil and wrong about this man is unjustified and unsubstantiated.
"I've read quotes you have given and they are all taken out of context "
You can't take what Dirty Dick said out of context, the things he said are so disgusting that no matter what context they were put in they would still be disgusting.
No matter how many diamonds you press into a turd it will always stink!
Actually you can take any quote out of context its common sense, any sensible person would realise this.
For example you say that Gardner says
"Pedophilia has been considered the norm by the vast majority of individuals in the history of the world."
You forget to mention that he is not saying that this is acceptable just that it has occurred throughout history. Mentioning an historical fact is not supporting it. Ancient Greece had boy slaves, me mentioning that does not mean I condone it.
Maqam4000, your ex has issues with you, who told you about this psuedoscience?
If your ex does not want to see you, and if your kids don't want to see you, then why don't you ask yourself the real reasons, instead of allowing yourself to be manipulated by the greedy law firms into accepting the lifework of a pedophile?
Stop making these dirtbags rich, and work out your own family issues, by talking peace to your ex, and prayer! Ask Jesus to help you, He is loves to help us all.
Jenhow, as you well know, there is plenty of evidence stacked heaven high about Richard Gardner - Dirty Dick, as you also know, he was not convicted in his lifetime but his own disgusting deeds will certainly condemn him for all eternity - unless he repented of his wickedness before he died of self bludgeoning himself to death!
What a surprise you don't actually answer the question, i'm not being obstinate. If you can show be factual evidence I will believe your point, but you have decided to not answer the question directly as expected.
Call him names like "Dirty Dick" but don't provide one shred of evidence. I dare you to make 1 direct quote to support your argument, I bet you can't.
The fact is you make broad generalizations and emotive statements, but your points lack specific facts
I think it is sick that they don't even listen to the children's own testimonies. It's easy to sit and call it PAS and move on. Ignore the kids and call it PAS. When a child does not want to see their own parent then there must be a reason. Otherwise they would want to go to see them. Children have a right to have a voice. If they aren't heard and listened to then they are in grave danger!!!
It is ridiculous to suggest that a child's wishes could not ever be influenced by the mother.
Where there has been proven to be a risk to the child then yes, the father (or mother if it is the case) should be stopped from having contact if this is the best solution available for the circumstance.
But if it is proven that the mother has emotionally manipulated the child in order to destroy that child's relationship with their father, then it is logically the mother that needs to be dealt with.
Please don't think that I don't want children to have a voice, I just believe that an appropriately qualified independent expert needs to analyse the child's behaviour and determine if their wishes are being inappropriately influenced by any external party.
When a parent manipulates a child then that child's words are not their own, and they are being stopped from expressing their true views.
realzoomy could you provide any evidence that Gardner is a convicted pedophile, you seem to think that if you call him it enough then people might believe you, but fortunately i've seen that most people have not fallen for your unfounded slander.
Also if PAS is pseudoscience then are you also saying that the idea that a child can be influenced by other people is a wacky concept? Are you saying that science has never conceived of peoples minds being influenced by those around them???
You also seem to keep insisting that Gardner has made pro pedo statements. I've read quotes you have given and they are all taken out of context (intentionally I suspect)
Why don't you provide one quote where Gardner makes a pro pedo statement. and we'll see if it stands up to some scrutiny. I'll bet it will be very easy to show how you've selectively quoted Gardner to twist the original meaning of his statement.
Having said that I doubt you will answer anything directly. Prove me wrong.
PAS is real and not a lie, it exists, my ex sends all the kids letters back, stops phone calls, slaggs me off in front of the kids along with her family. takes presents off the kids, not allowed to phone the kids, she will not answer. If this is not PAS what is it?????. I have all this document, in court papers and returned letters, and what the kids told me.
PAS is real and not a lie, it exits, my ex sends all the kids letters back, stops phone calls, slaggs me off in front of the kids with her family. takes presents off the kids, not allowed to phone the kids, she will answer. If is not PAS what is it?????. I have all this document, in court papers and returned letters, and what the kids told me.
yeah u do not know what went on. The kid who killed himself went through the whole system and found that he could not cope. Its comon for children who suffer from pas will not want to see their father, and make allegations. This puts the kid in a real bad position, it confuses them and the end result is depression and at the extreme suicide. U have to ask if all the kids say this, either is true or an extreme form of PAS. If its true the dad should not see them, but its PAS then mother is sick
If the judge has colluded in child abuse, the judge certainly should go to jail.
There is a great deal of money being made from Richard Gardner's wicked web of lies, PAS. It must stop, and the people who have used it to abuse children must be sent to prison.
Threat Therapy is a Patriarchal concept, based on bullying the child into what adults want.
It is based on the old idea that children obey the Bully.
Gardiner committed suicide, so, it does not say much for his own mental stability.
He also had unresolved mother issues, like so may self proclaimed expert witnesses, who cognitively project these issues onto innocent children and good peace loving parents.
Another piece of propaganda by men hating women's group. Is there any good father's out there?? Watching only your videos, as a father, I would commit suicide.
My understanding is that... 1.) Richard Gardner lost his hospital admitting privileges in 1978. 2.) From 1983 to 2003, he was in an unpaid volunteer position at Columbia University. 3.) For 20 years he fraudulently claimed to be a professor.
MyChildIsBeingAbused 5 months ago
@MyChildIsBeingAbused You have it absolutly correct. Richard Gardner pulled off one of the most successful international con tricks ever. I am surprised Hollywood hasn't done a film about him yet, like they have with Kinsey (Nice piece of propaganda that was too) They could pay tribute to Rob Redford and Paul Newmans excellent con trick film with the title as well, they could call it THE STINK!
realzoomy 5 months ago
Why these boys were forced to visit the father who had abused them? Abusers are seeing their children and being given custody. This happens for many reasons: A "default" occurs- when the other parent's attorney does not show up at court, the Guardian Ad Litem lacks the ability to remain neutral and in the best interests of the child- i.e. takes sides, the abuser has more money, false allegations, because the abuse is not "believed," etc The story is in the Pittsburgh-Post Gazette.
joytheauthor 2 years ago
If you and you're partner choose to defend a roaring paedophile psychologist and use his claptrap syndrome for your own purpose then you're making a statement by your own actions, and don't need me to make comment!
realzoomy 2 years ago
Idiot.
booooboooo2010 2 years ago
Realzoomy...one question! since you believe so venomously that PAS is only used by abusers and pedophiles, does it make me a pedophile or an abuser? since my partner and I have seen all the evidence of PAS in his son. Do I, a 29 yo christian white female , fit the profile of a pedophile or an abuser because I believe PAS to be real? Why dont you just accept that every symptom of PAS I have researched explains my partners son and his ex to a T? wouldnt you believe if it happened to you?
chopsticksue 2 years ago 3
btw. The 'diary' was written several weeks before this kid killed himself. Dont you think the parental conflict has more to do with this than anything else? The abuse allegations were unfounded due to the mother continuously telling the children they were abused in the passed as the children had witnessed violence towards their mother from their father. although guilty of this, the father had not been violent to the children.
chopsticksue 2 years ago 2
'How crafty it was to get the FMSF to make up names and fake stories! Not crafty enough to fool God though!'
and this is what we call 'projection' :)
chopsticksue 2 years ago
Chopstick Sue, you ought to be really careful of messing with God. I would not do it, I would be much too scared to do what you are doing.
You know Richard Gardner was a paedophile just as well as I do. You know it yourself.
Instead of trying to defend the indefencible, you ought to make your peace with your Creator.
I forgive you for all the wicked things you have said to me. Please, for your own sake, turn away from this evil and save yourself from the wrath to come.
realzoomy 2 years ago
Jesus had very sharp words of warning to the crafty Pharasees who sought to trick him with their weasel words. He said this:
"There is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed, or hidden that will not be made known. What you have said in the dark will be heard in the daylight, and what you have whispered in the ear in the inner rooms will be proclaimed from the roofs ... Fear him who, after the killing of the body, has power to throw you into hell"
realzoomy 2 years ago
"Realzoomy, why dont you look up and read testimonials of adults who suffered from PAS when they were children"
I have read those "testimonials".
How crafty it was to get the FMSF to make up names and fake stories! Not crafty enough to fool God though!
It is wicked to use the paedophiles Richard Gardner and Ralph Underwager's theories and lies in order to make money out of other people's misery.
I am praying to Jesus to expose this dreadful scandal to all the world.
realzoomy 2 years ago
Also can I just add where did you get your info on this case? was it some mothers 4 justice website? Also it does not say and it could be twisted for this reason - but how do you know the boy was not talking about his mother being an 'endless torment'? food for thought......
chopsticksue 2 years ago
Realzoomy, why dont you look up and read testimonials of adults who suffered from PAS when they were children. They will tell you exactly what went on who done the manipulation and brainwashing and exactly how it made them think and feel. Theres you proof that PAS exists.
chopsticksue 2 years ago
You're right about one thing - there's a heck of a lot more to this dreadful story than I could put into such a short video.
As for who is to blame, it is certainly not the poor mother, who was threatened with prison for trying to protect her children.
The father was putty in the hands of those disgusting moneygrubbing wretches and that dirty smelly creep of a skunk Gardner. They saw him coming.
I doubt if there will be many secret familly court lawyers in Heaven, if any at all.
realzoomy 2 years ago
Theres a lot more to this story then what you mention in your video. BOTH the MOTHER and FATHER are to blame for the death of their son. BOTH parents were ANGRY, VINDICTIVE, and SELFISH people that used their children as pawns to pay the other one back. Their son paid a very high price for this emotional conflict. Im sure Nathan would have handled the rejection of his girlfriend better had his parents not been fighting.
justsomefellow2 2 years ago 2
WRONG- The mother is equally to blame as the father.
justsomefellow2 2 years ago
"You forget to mention that he is not saying that this is acceptable just that it has occurred throughout history"
I didn't forget anything.
BTW, I notice that cock sucking statue has been removed from he big house near Haut de la Garenne. I'm sure you must now the one I am referring to, seeing as to how we are talking about Grecian art, or should I say, mock Grecian art?
Suddenly it doesn not all look so innocent any more, what with the riff raff beginning to understand the "joke"!
realzoomy 3 years ago
"Comment removed by author", hey Jenhow?
I see!
Yes, well, you are very wise to watch what you say, when you choose to justify the lifework of a PEDOPHILE!
realzoomy 3 years ago
lol you never stop do you? my comment is the same comment as above. I just corrected a spelling mistake. And yes I support richard gardners work. What you insist is evil and wrong about this man is unjustified and unsubstantiated.
chopsticksue 2 years ago 2
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jenhow69 3 years ago
"I've read quotes you have given and they are all taken out of context "
You can't take what Dirty Dick said out of context, the things he said are so disgusting that no matter what context they were put in they would still be disgusting.
No matter how many diamonds you press into a turd it will always stink!
realzoomy 3 years ago
Actually you can take any quote out of context its common sense, any sensible person would realise this.
For example you say that Gardner says
"Pedophilia has been considered the norm by the vast majority of individuals in the history of the world."
You forget to mention that he is not saying that this is acceptable just that it has occurred throughout history. Mentioning an historical fact is not supporting it. Ancient Greece had boy slaves, me mentioning that does not mean I condone it.
jenhow69 3 years ago
Maqam4000, your ex has issues with you, who told you about this psuedoscience?
If your ex does not want to see you, and if your kids don't want to see you, then why don't you ask yourself the real reasons, instead of allowing yourself to be manipulated by the greedy law firms into accepting the lifework of a pedophile?
Stop making these dirtbags rich, and work out your own family issues, by talking peace to your ex, and prayer! Ask Jesus to help you, He is loves to help us all.
realzoomy 3 years ago
Jenhow, as you well know, there is plenty of evidence stacked heaven high about Richard Gardner - Dirty Dick, as you also know, he was not convicted in his lifetime but his own disgusting deeds will certainly condemn him for all eternity - unless he repented of his wickedness before he died of self bludgeoning himself to death!
realzoomy 3 years ago
What a surprise you don't actually answer the question, i'm not being obstinate. If you can show be factual evidence I will believe your point, but you have decided to not answer the question directly as expected.
Call him names like "Dirty Dick" but don't provide one shred of evidence. I dare you to make 1 direct quote to support your argument, I bet you can't.
The fact is you make broad generalizations and emotive statements, but your points lack specific facts
jenhow69 3 years ago
I think it is sick that they don't even listen to the children's own testimonies. It's easy to sit and call it PAS and move on. Ignore the kids and call it PAS. When a child does not want to see their own parent then there must be a reason. Otherwise they would want to go to see them. Children have a right to have a voice. If they aren't heard and listened to then they are in grave danger!!!
Tangocat 3 years ago
It is ridiculous to suggest that a child's wishes could not ever be influenced by the mother.
Where there has been proven to be a risk to the child then yes, the father (or mother if it is the case) should be stopped from having contact if this is the best solution available for the circumstance.
But if it is proven that the mother has emotionally manipulated the child in order to destroy that child's relationship with their father, then it is logically the mother that needs to be dealt with.
jenhow69 3 years ago
Please don't think that I don't want children to have a voice, I just believe that an appropriately qualified independent expert needs to analyse the child's behaviour and determine if their wishes are being inappropriately influenced by any external party.
When a parent manipulates a child then that child's words are not their own, and they are being stopped from expressing their true views.
jenhow69 3 years ago
"yeah u do not know what went on. The kid who killed himself went through the whole system and found that he could not cope"
Actually, I know exactly what went on. These children are being tortured by the family court, using pseudo science which was invented by a pedophile.
And if you are trying to use this pedoscience against your own children in these wicked corrupt courts, then shame on you!
You should ask God to heal your relationship, not use the lies of a wicked man as a weapon!
realzoomy 3 years ago
realzoomy could you provide any evidence that Gardner is a convicted pedophile, you seem to think that if you call him it enough then people might believe you, but fortunately i've seen that most people have not fallen for your unfounded slander.
Also if PAS is pseudoscience then are you also saying that the idea that a child can be influenced by other people is a wacky concept? Are you saying that science has never conceived of peoples minds being influenced by those around them???
jenhow69 3 years ago
You also seem to keep insisting that Gardner has made pro pedo statements. I've read quotes you have given and they are all taken out of context (intentionally I suspect)
Why don't you provide one quote where Gardner makes a pro pedo statement. and we'll see if it stands up to some scrutiny. I'll bet it will be very easy to show how you've selectively quoted Gardner to twist the original meaning of his statement.
Having said that I doubt you will answer anything directly. Prove me wrong.
jenhow69 3 years ago
PAS is real and not a lie, it exists, my ex sends all the kids letters back, stops phone calls, slaggs me off in front of the kids along with her family. takes presents off the kids, not allowed to phone the kids, she will not answer. If this is not PAS what is it?????. I have all this document, in court papers and returned letters, and what the kids told me.
maqam4000 3 years ago
PAS is real and not a lie, it exits, my ex sends all the kids letters back, stops phone calls, slaggs me off in front of the kids with her family. takes presents off the kids, not allowed to phone the kids, she will answer. If is not PAS what is it?????. I have all this document, in court papers and returned letters, and what the kids told me.
maqam4000 3 years ago
yeah u do not know what went on. The kid who killed himself went through the whole system and found that he could not cope. Its comon for children who suffer from pas will not want to see their father, and make allegations. This puts the kid in a real bad position, it confuses them and the end result is depression and at the extreme suicide. U have to ask if all the kids say this, either is true or an extreme form of PAS. If its true the dad should not see them, but its PAS then mother is sick
maqam4000 3 years ago
YES!
If the judge has colluded in child abuse, the judge certainly should go to jail.
There is a great deal of money being made from Richard Gardner's wicked web of lies, PAS. It must stop, and the people who have used it to abuse children must be sent to prison.
realzoomy 3 years ago
so is the judge go to jail?
we need start it
lets do it
iedadasilva 3 years ago
Threat Therapy is a Patriarchal concept, based on bullying the child into what adults want.
It is based on the old idea that children obey the Bully.
Gardiner committed suicide, so, it does not say much for his own mental stability.
He also had unresolved mother issues, like so may self proclaimed expert witnesses, who cognitively project these issues onto innocent children and good peace loving parents.
catherinesara 3 years ago
I don't hate men at all! I'm a Christian, how on earth can I be a hater of men?
But I do hate corruption and shild abuse.
There are plenty of good fathers. Sadly, the UK and US seem to reward bad fathers and persecute good fathers.
Please look at some of my other videos - you will find no anti male message in them. Please join us in fighting corruption and child abuse.
realzoomy 3 years ago
Another piece of propaganda by men hating women's group. Is there any good father's out there?? Watching only your videos, as a father, I would commit suicide.
linsliu 3 years ago
I would go as far to say that by his actions Gardner and the other child abusing slugs committed murder. He drove this poor little guy to his grave.
realzoomy 3 years ago