I am a Falun Gong practitioner. Falun Dafa is a cultivation system in the Buddha School based on the principles of the Universe: 真 Truthfulness 善 Compassion 忍 Forbearance.
Since 1999 it has been brutally persecuted by the CCP in China. People are being killed, tortured, put into concentration camps and have organs harvested from live people, simply because of their belief. More than 3400 Falun Gong practitioners have died at the hands of CCP in the past 12 years.
even at 1.16, he never says 'what we SHOULD crave for is the ...' he says 'tya gnyana chi tumhala avaad aahe' which word for word mean 'that knowledge is what you have (an inherent) liking/craving for'. he doesnt say you should have it, he says its something you already have in you
a humble request: can it be translated word for word instead of summarizing it ? for example at 2.13 where Maharaj says 'janive cha janta janar nahi' which word for word means 'the witness/knower of the conciousness will not die/go away/dissappear' was translated as 'Conciousness is ever present'.
If it were true what Nisargadatta said life would be a difficult path back to the primal source from which all come, and this path and 'a very hard path that would involve itself' a subtle message, that 'life is not' a gift, but a mistake of nature from which escape, a nightmare from which I wake up;
if everything 'perfect and already known, a being like Nisargadatta will not' have any incentive to be creative, original, different, with its own vision of the world and with a will ', is not the concept of life itself;
If I do not exist, first of all can not 'even have the desire to create, to have the motivation, feel emotions, to distinguish me from other beings on my way unique things to see and observe things that I differ from others ...; If there is no 'desire, there is no' curiosity ', there' will 'and the tension that leads to every make discoveries:
Nisargadatta says that the world does not exist, but it is the fruit of our thoughts; This' and that 'real and never dies, and' the witness-observer precedes consciousness and thoughts; In this vision the relative-ego is abandoned for the objective-self with which to identify the same Nisargadatta says, this kind of vision is in my opinion absurd, because it denies fundamentally the importance of the agent and performs the actions:
I'm not impressed. I spent ten days once with ramesh. I wasn't impressed. this guy is actually less impressive on film cause he yells like a maniac. he uses different expressions to mean different things at different times so you can't make heads or tails of what he's about. It's amateurish. compared to buddhism, this is a waste of time. however, they probably won't even post this, a dissenting voice.
Well... I can only say that it took us two years and four translators to subtitle "The Lost Satsang" in a way we feel was satisfactory. I cannot imagine the task of translating such complicated concepts from one language to another "on the spot". Do you, by chance, speak another language? If so, please, try translating from English to that language, on the fly, this movie subtitles... :-)
I often try in Italian, my first language, and have NO clue of what I am saying 90% of the time... :-)
@NetiNetiFilms Translating what traditions call "inexpressible" into expression is already hard enough. From "Inexpressible" to expression to a different expression is just a continuation of the "inexpressible"s cruel game. The "Inexpressible" is a dirty rat! ;-)(American expression!) I know! After 25 years I still don't grasp the words of the "inexpressible"s expressors. Blowing winds and shining suns mean nothing! I want WORDS that express the "inexpressible".
@NetiNetiFilms I read somewhere that after Ramesh had been translating for some time, he spontaneously began to 'translate' but it was obvious that he was speaking from his own experience and so the translation took on a whole new energy. Otherwise, it seems to me that it cannot help but sound conceptual.
@NetiNetiFilms well said, language is our biggest barrier to reality in my opinion. The mind is always busy finding short cuts, we need language to communicate with each other but an unfortunate side effect is that we become blind to the minds influence. All you can really do is pay attention to the mind thus having a quieting effect. Be still friends.
Pranams Sri Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj _/\_ Thank you Stephenji...L & M for all...Gratitude for gathering, care fully & creatively conveying Maharaj's pointers for us. Blessed to be with all netinetifilms' offerings as is...Sri L & M, InJoy Burning Man!!! Maha Warmth, Chris
Thank you so much
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I am a Falun Gong practitioner. Falun Dafa is a cultivation system in the Buddha School based on the principles of the Universe: 真 Truthfulness 善 Compassion 忍 Forbearance.
Since 1999 it has been brutally persecuted by the CCP in China. People are being killed, tortured, put into concentration camps and have organs harvested from live people, simply because of their belief. More than 3400 Falun Gong practitioners have died at the hands of CCP in the past 12 years.
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Xiaolian7 2 months ago
even at 1.16, he never says 'what we SHOULD crave for is the ...' he says 'tya gnyana chi tumhala avaad aahe' which word for word mean 'that knowledge is what you have (an inherent) liking/craving for'. he doesnt say you should have it, he says its something you already have in you
amold128 4 months ago
a humble request: can it be translated word for word instead of summarizing it ? for example at 2.13 where Maharaj says 'janive cha janta janar nahi' which word for word means 'the witness/knower of the conciousness will not die/go away/dissappear' was translated as 'Conciousness is ever present'.
amold128 4 months ago
If it were true what Nisargadatta said life would be a difficult path back to the primal source from which all come, and this path and 'a very hard path that would involve itself' a subtle message, that 'life is not' a gift, but a mistake of nature from which escape, a nightmare from which I wake up;
filippodemedici 4 months ago
if everything 'perfect and already known, a being like Nisargadatta will not' have any incentive to be creative, original, different, with its own vision of the world and with a will ', is not the concept of life itself;
filippodemedici 4 months ago
If I do not exist, first of all can not 'even have the desire to create, to have the motivation, feel emotions, to distinguish me from other beings on my way unique things to see and observe things that I differ from others ...; If there is no 'desire, there is no' curiosity ', there' will 'and the tension that leads to every make discoveries:
filippodemedici 4 months ago
Nisargadatta says that the world does not exist, but it is the fruit of our thoughts; This' and that 'real and never dies, and' the witness-observer precedes consciousness and thoughts; In this vision the relative-ego is abandoned for the objective-self with which to identify the same Nisargadatta says, this kind of vision is in my opinion absurd, because it denies fundamentally the importance of the agent and performs the actions:
filippodemedici 4 months ago
WOW THANKS!
TheTiger669 5 months ago
I'm not impressed. I spent ten days once with ramesh. I wasn't impressed. this guy is actually less impressive on film cause he yells like a maniac. he uses different expressions to mean different things at different times so you can't make heads or tails of what he's about. It's amateurish. compared to buddhism, this is a waste of time. however, they probably won't even post this, a dissenting voice.
zyxquark 5 months ago
@zyxquark, Your ignorance is laid bare.
superluminalthought 5 months ago
Maharaj's expressions are priceless hahaha
0000AllFitness0000 6 months ago 2
nice epistemology
artregeous 7 months ago
this is only useful for some and toatally useless for others !!!
bellztoll 7 months ago
Y'all wanna REALLY do the world a favor, get them to put this thing on Netflix.
EdenConsciousness 9 months ago
It is quite incredible that this kind of pedestrian shouting is the source of the book I am That etc :)
violinoamore 11 months ago
@violinoamore You are too much into appearance and presentation, may be not too much into truth
abhisingh07 9 months ago
@abhisingh07 How could anything that is be not the truth ? :))
violinoamore 9 months ago
great spiritual guru
can anyone tell me where can i find length full video
g.suvidh@gmail.com
yousuvidh 1 year ago
@yousuvidh
Dear Suvidh
At the end of the clip it says that the DVD is available at Neti Neti Films dot com
You can also find it on Google by typing " The Lost Satsang"
NetiNetiFilms 1 year ago
great spiritual guru
can anyone tell me where can i find full video
g.suvidh@gmail.com
yousuvidh 1 year ago
his indian translator should be shot.
pkolodz 1 year ago
Well... I can only say that it took us two years and four translators to subtitle "The Lost Satsang" in a way we feel was satisfactory. I cannot imagine the task of translating such complicated concepts from one language to another "on the spot". Do you, by chance, speak another language? If so, please, try translating from English to that language, on the fly, this movie subtitles... :-)
I often try in Italian, my first language, and have NO clue of what I am saying 90% of the time... :-)
NetiNetiFilms 1 year ago
@NetiNetiFilms Translating what traditions call "inexpressible" into expression is already hard enough. From "Inexpressible" to expression to a different expression is just a continuation of the "inexpressible"s cruel game. The "Inexpressible" is a dirty rat! ;-)(American expression!) I know! After 25 years I still don't grasp the words of the "inexpressible"s expressors. Blowing winds and shining suns mean nothing! I want WORDS that express the "inexpressible".
lonedoghowling 11 months ago
@NetiNetiFilms P.s. Some of the words I used might not be proper American. Seemed to fit.
lonedoghowling 11 months ago
@NetiNetiFilms I read somewhere that after Ramesh had been translating for some time, he spontaneously began to 'translate' but it was obvious that he was speaking from his own experience and so the translation took on a whole new energy. Otherwise, it seems to me that it cannot help but sound conceptual.
claudelebel55 8 months ago
@NetiNetiFilms well said, language is our biggest barrier to reality in my opinion. The mind is always busy finding short cuts, we need language to communicate with each other but an unfortunate side effect is that we become blind to the minds influence. All you can really do is pay attention to the mind thus having a quieting effect. Be still friends.
JackHarveyOi 8 months ago
Thank you so much :) ♥
maramel1 1 year ago
Pranams Sri Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj _/\_ Thank you Stephenji...L & M for all...Gratitude for gathering, care fully & creatively conveying Maharaj's pointers for us. Blessed to be with all netinetifilms' offerings as is...Sri L & M, InJoy Burning Man!!! Maha Warmth, Chris
mtflis 1 year ago
can god exist with out us and can we exist with out god. maybe god and the world is not a seperate existance but exsists as a whole, unseperable?
stuckin80ss 1 year ago
Thank you Maurizio. I've just received my copy today. Wonderful job!
Many Many Blessings to you.
Mario.
TheSilentSon 1 year ago
Thanks Stonedrenched for your kindness!
:-)
It's an honor for us to be allowed to diffuse the word of such a master!
Did you check the discourses on our web site at neti neti films?
We regularly post, for free, old audio recording of Nisargadatta translated by one of his old translators!
Love, Maurizio & Zaya
NetiNetiFilms 1 year ago
Wonderful ~
cathyginter 1 year ago