Wagner's Lohengrin - Treulich gefuhrt

[keiweak]

GODWINS LAW - As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one.

[corohebraico]

does anyone have the lyrics of this song?

please send me or post it here please

[RaymondHng]

@corohebraico Complete German lyrics can be found at en.wikipedia[dot]org/wiki/Brid­al_Chorus

[apt95]

very impressive piece...

was this really taken from Lohengrin?

If I recall correctly, the song was played after the wedding, but before the groom murdered a bunch of people.

suddenly the Bridal March just became even more awesome.

$5 says it's only a matter of time before we see this remade into a metal song, for better or for worse.

[rhapsodist9]

@apt95 it depends on what you consider the defition of murder. the bride, Elsa, asks him to reveal his real name, which he made her promise not to ask because it would mean the end of their relationship, but she asks anyway... at the moment she asks, the antagonist enters with a small group of his buddies and tries to kill Lohengrin. Lohengrin kills them in self defense.

[Lorenshyne]

Where is the Outkast - Ms. Jackson sample? I cant hear it out.

[higherdenali]

Yeah, Hitler also liked fresh water and blooming flowers. And then?

[leteatbee2]

This kind of music? It goes beyound beautiful. It's downright divine.

[tvwxq]

if he was around today he would be in a metal band the similarities between classical and heavy metal are huge. the only real difference is they didnt have amplifiers in the 1800's

[RachmaninovDESU]

And metal isn't nearly as complex and subtle as late romantic classical music.

[DrBitfutzer]

Wagner had Jewish friends and approved of Jewish conductors performing his music. He also said the the best thing the Jews could do would be to burn themselves to death. He called it the "Great Solution". As much as we would like life to be nothing but simple, black and white situations, it can't always be so. Enjoy the music, condemn the attitudes.

[Kulturleben]

I would say: Enjoy the music, ignore the attitudes. Wagner is long dead, as full of errors he might have been (just like every one uf us). But his music is here to stay, and what a wonderful music of that!

Artists often tend to be more difficult than "normal" persons, because their sensibility is higher. Therefore, they are often like "bipolar disorder" patients, but with a difference! They don't just suffer, they TRANSFORM and TRANSCEND thier suffering to ART. We should focus on their ART.

[argentor16]

c'est tout simplement magnifique...je parle juste de la musique, je ne veux pas penser que Wagner puisse avoir été aussi.....c.n dans ses idées politiques.

[boilerplate7]

Wagner was played in Israel by a symphony orchestra to a standing ovation.When asked how can one reconcile this? A bright person said "its easy just separate Wagner the genious from Wagner the petty".

[SonofDostojevskij]

Its tragic how people starts diskuss Hitler on ewery Wagner klipp, Wagner was a geanius Hitler an idiot, Thats IT!!

[LazyBastard69]

you know that wagner was anti semitistic?

[icebear1946]

@SonofDostojevskij

The idiot in the picture is Chuck Darwin and not Hitler. Hitler was simply acting on bad advice and bad information. The big initial step in the picture is the thing about viewing your fellow man as a meat byproduct of random processes, rather than as a fellow child of God.

[Haophil]

@SonofDostojevskij Very good interpretation, first I mentioned it was sung in a German church (I wondered about the fans on the ceiling). And noone would sing this song in a church here...

My deepest respect to this chorus, greetings from Germany.

Forget Hitler...Maybe he was an admirer of Wagner, but I guess, Wagner would not be an admirer of Hitler.

[Haophil]

hitler was not right.

he was an idiot, he has no militaric background and his ideas about jews were purely nonsense..

get a life

[88hitlerwasright88]

Soul of Aryans.

This music is Wotan's Sound.

And Wotan is soul of Europeans.

Art is Spirit of Races.

And if you want ''Know'' races,you must look their Arts,Musics and Culture.

Every artwork is ''reflects'' to that race's soul.