Numerous gun manufacturers have lost lots of money and some have even gone out of business when the ATF "changed their mind" and decided to declare a gun or accessory to now be "illegal" after they had already reviewed it and gave a letter stating the item was "legal" ... Being "Whimsical" is not really what I look for in a government agency.
these federal agencies are CLEARLY getting completely OUT of control .their arrogance in not providing an official ,easy to understand ,written set of guidelines per "actual EXISTING statute gun laws " is preposterous ,onerous ,unconstitutional and UNLAWFUL ..we have laws on the books and we have city,state and county law enforcement already on the payroll ,the ATF should be disbanded and entirely erased as a govt agency .
If you sit home waiting your turn you deserve to have your gun taken from your cold dead hands.
The Founders didn’t wait for the Brits to knock down their doors. They gathered at the green and stood up like men and they killed government employees all the way back to Boston.
What will you do when it’s time to hunt NWO hacks, republicrats and commies(“Liberals” and ‘progressives’)?
Don't understand? Follow my links. Read the quotes page first. Then read my column ‘Prepping for Slavery’
@waypasthadenough Oh boy, another idiot conspiracy nut. The lefty conspiracy nuts advocate are terrified of food, and the righty conspiracy nuts are terrified of a group that doesn't exist.
@scythian0528 Nope they exist in a place I pay taxes for No Gun Zone signs. So wouldn't you be terrified of a place like that? Why don't you go back to Russia before they figure out who you work for too? What your wrote in English are called poison letters. First you lead them on with poison food, that has nothing to do with the 2nd amendment or this conversation. Then you spread your poison of deceit and lies softly. And now your propaganda dictates a What What? Don't need a language teacher
Americans need to awaken to the fact that the government doesn't want you to have weapons. That makes you easier to control. And yes you will have to fight for your rights ! Its unavoidable.
@daleallen45251 Yet we the people continue to re-elect these worthless professional politicians, only to be surprised when they are tried for corruption either in Congress of by the state.
Vote them all out, never re-elect anyone with more than one term in office. The United States was never intended to have a full time, professional legislature.
Here in Canada the RCMP confiscate firearms that they deemed illegal because they "may" be easily converted to full automatic. These same firearms were legal to purchase the year before by their same standards. They change the rules to suit their purposes. They refuse to define what "may easily be converted" means. This vague term can be applied to all firearms. The BATFE hopes to have the same unchecked power some day.
@Hexenhaus1 Why? Full-auto weapons are useless except for suppression fire. If you actually want to shoot something AND HIT, you use single-fire, well-aimed shots.
The FCC follows the same philosophy. They can fine a radio station for inappropriate content without explaining what there guide lines are. They can even go back years and fine stations retroactively for content broadcast years prior. And when asked what their guidelines are for content they can't tell you. It's a guessing game.
@DrDissent The entire Fast and Furious case is a textbook example of corruption. In exact case of "above the law" meglomanical sleazebags undermining our Country. Abuse of power. So sad to see good men who were fooled by their higher ups when all they wanted to do was serve the nation. Lives lost. Shameful. Justice needs to be served. Over time, truth always seems to surface.
@machineguntongue Unfortunately the truth comes out long enough after the fact that our brain dead sheeple brothers and sisters don't care any longer !
@craigtheng I there a link or info on the internet where I can read about ridiculous ATF policies and examples. I find your comment super funny (in a sad but true way). Gun laws are so insanely inappropriate based on actual FBI crime stats. More guns = less crime. So simple. Any info, thanks in advance. Btw: I found the Gunfacts.info site version 6.0 equally fascinating.
The entire firearms industry should do to the ATF what Barrett did with the Los Angeles PD when the LAPD lobbied for the banning of the .50 Barrett and the .50 BMG...refuse future sales to the LAPD and refuse to service what the LAPD already bought. He wrote a letter emphatically stating that his company can not be sustained on military/LE sales alone and that civilian sales help sustain the company.
This is the same ATF that ruled that a shoe sting is a machine gun and a pot scrubbing pad is a silencer. The NFA needs to be repealed, and the ATF needs to be gutted.
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Numerous gun manufacturers have lost lots of money and some have even gone out of business when the ATF "changed their mind" and decided to declare a gun or accessory to now be "illegal" after they had already reviewed it and gave a letter stating the item was "legal" ... Being "Whimsical" is not really what I look for in a government agency.
Just my .02 cents
MarkosDrago 1 month ago
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MarkosDrago 1 month ago
these federal agencies are CLEARLY getting completely OUT of control .their arrogance in not providing an official ,easy to understand ,written set of guidelines per "actual EXISTING statute gun laws " is preposterous ,onerous ,unconstitutional and UNLAWFUL ..we have laws on the books and we have city,state and county law enforcement already on the payroll ,the ATF should be disbanded and entirely erased as a govt agency .
woodenmajor 1 month ago 5
We have tried the soap box, and the ballet box. Now it's time for the bullet box.
Iraqveteran8888 1 month ago
If you sit home waiting your turn you deserve to have your gun taken from your cold dead hands.
The Founders didn’t wait for the Brits to knock down their doors. They gathered at the green and stood up like men and they killed government employees all the way back to Boston.
What will you do when it’s time to hunt NWO hacks, republicrats and commies(“Liberals” and ‘progressives’)?
Don't understand? Follow my links. Read the quotes page first. Then read my column ‘Prepping for Slavery’
waypasthadenough 1 month ago 2
@waypasthadenough Oh boy, another idiot conspiracy nut. The lefty conspiracy nuts advocate are terrified of food, and the righty conspiracy nuts are terrified of a group that doesn't exist.
scythian0528 1 month ago
@scythian0528 Nope they exist in a place I pay taxes for No Gun Zone signs. So wouldn't you be terrified of a place like that? Why don't you go back to Russia before they figure out who you work for too? What your wrote in English are called poison letters. First you lead them on with poison food, that has nothing to do with the 2nd amendment or this conversation. Then you spread your poison of deceit and lies softly. And now your propaganda dictates a What What? Don't need a language teacher
hangemhigh2000 1 month ago
@hangemhigh2000 "Don't need a language teacher" Considering how poorly you write in English, it's obvious that you do.
You're just another person who speaks with false bravado for attention. A little bunny scared of the world, trying to find shelter.
"2nd amendment or this conversation." Guns are great, words are greater.
>they figure out who you work for too?
>you work for
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scythian0528 1 month ago
BATFE = Jack Booted Thugs
jalopy221 1 month ago 3
Americans need to awaken to the fact that the government doesn't want you to have weapons. That makes you easier to control. And yes you will have to fight for your rights ! Its unavoidable.
daleallen45251 1 month ago 5
@daleallen45251 Yet we the people continue to re-elect these worthless professional politicians, only to be surprised when they are tried for corruption either in Congress of by the state.
Vote them all out, never re-elect anyone with more than one term in office. The United States was never intended to have a full time, professional legislature.
unolil 1 month ago 2
We need a "New Broom" to sweep out that "Den of Snakes"! They need to quit messing with the 2d Amendment, and trying to disarm our country!
TheBuzzer7 1 month ago
Here in Canada the RCMP confiscate firearms that they deemed illegal because they "may" be easily converted to full automatic. These same firearms were legal to purchase the year before by their same standards. They change the rules to suit their purposes. They refuse to define what "may easily be converted" means. This vague term can be applied to all firearms. The BATFE hopes to have the same unchecked power some day.
HaroldfromCanada 1 month ago 2
Geee recourse for all the slander NRA gave ATFE ?? wake up people this is another way for goverment control people.
pup9et 1 month ago
@pup9et That's pretty much the definition of government, so yes.
scythian0528 1 month ago
Repeal the machine gun ban
Hexenhaus1 1 month ago
@Hexenhaus1 They wrapped that up in the FOPA. Sadly, probably not gunna happen.
DACFalloutRanger 1 month ago
@Hexenhaus1 Why? Full-auto weapons are useless except for suppression fire. If you actually want to shoot something AND HIT, you use single-fire, well-aimed shots.
EldaTaluta 1 month ago 4
The F on ATF is a "not ok!" as "WE THE PEOPLE"-criteria!!!
Roberto29071976 1 month ago
The FCC follows the same philosophy. They can fine a radio station for inappropriate content without explaining what there guide lines are. They can even go back years and fine stations retroactively for content broadcast years prior. And when asked what their guidelines are for content they can't tell you. It's a guessing game.
viol999 1 month ago 8
Bad At Taking Facts Everytime
LordAtrocities 1 month ago
@DrDissent The entire Fast and Furious case is a textbook example of corruption. In exact case of "above the law" meglomanical sleazebags undermining our Country. Abuse of power. So sad to see good men who were fooled by their higher ups when all they wanted to do was serve the nation. Lives lost. Shameful. Justice needs to be served. Over time, truth always seems to surface.
machineguntongue 1 month ago
@machineguntongue Unfortunately the truth comes out long enough after the fact that our brain dead sheeple brothers and sisters don't care any longer !
rarekind40 1 month ago 2
@craigtheng I there a link or info on the internet where I can read about ridiculous ATF policies and examples. I find your comment super funny (in a sad but true way). Gun laws are so insanely inappropriate based on actual FBI crime stats. More guns = less crime. So simple. Any info, thanks in advance. Btw: I found the Gunfacts.info site version 6.0 equally fascinating.
machineguntongue 1 month ago
The entire firearms industry should do to the ATF what Barrett did with the Los Angeles PD when the LAPD lobbied for the banning of the .50 Barrett and the .50 BMG...refuse future sales to the LAPD and refuse to service what the LAPD already bought. He wrote a letter emphatically stating that his company can not be sustained on military/LE sales alone and that civilian sales help sustain the company.
Commiefornia 1 month ago 3
Hmmm sure sounds like "infringement" to me....
As far as I'm concerned the 2nd Amendment guarantees our right to any type of firearm, not the kind the ATF decides we can have.
PersonguydudeWB 1 month ago
This is the same ATF that ruled that a shoe sting is a machine gun and a pot scrubbing pad is a silencer. The NFA needs to be repealed, and the ATF needs to be gutted.
craigtheng 1 month ago
The BATF doesn't have time to clarify what constitutes a lawful firearm. They are way to busy running guns down to Mexico.
DrDissent 1 month ago 52
@DrDissent Even if they had the time I don't think they're competent enough to do it.
TheBizzyWig 1 month ago