Warren Jeffs Married Off Ruby Jessop at age 14 Utah DFS

[MrsPoodle78]

I have read every book I could get on the FLDS. I would like to know what has happened to Betty Jessop (daughter of Merril and Carolyn Jessop).

[cafelattemocha]

Go to hell u pig!..Please pray for these poor babies and children

[hiimallen]

OK Jay you can put away your sign, we found Ruby!

Google: "Flora Jessop: The Troubled Woman Who Cost Texas $14 Million, and Hundreds of Innocent People Their Peace and Safety"

[hiimallen]

Who is Ashdown?

[fincenMIB]

I thought you knew everything! His first name is Gene, he was with DFS in St. George, Utah. He had the position Chuck Sullivan had in the 1980's. Asking me something harder next time, like "why is the sky blue"?

[hiimallen]

Just figured it out, thanks!

Here is a hard one for you

How do you tell Flora Jessop is lying?

[hiimallen]

(her lips move)

[gingersnap313]

Dadsblueangel-according to you, sex after puberty is rape instead of pedophilia. Some young girls reach puberty at 10 and 11 nowdays - and yes, that is pedophilia and rape.

[DadsBlueAngel]

I've dealt with Family Serices, until we settled in with a permanent worker it was sh-t. Because of the shunning, you didn't get your compensation, just like you didn't have a high school or two way Liveboard like they did up North.

It's discrimination.

I've been through the sexual trauma business--a 3 year old neice and 18 month old nephew, child pornography. Five years of therapy. I take a vacation now and then.

It hurts the victim most. Its heck to know you missed

the cues.

[DadsBlueAngel]

Short Creek and LDS towns need to be compared. Sexual abuse happened in Cedar for different reasons. Ranch widows wintered in town with kids-LDS and Polygamous. Town boys during Viet Nam still worked at 12 and turned pay over to their Moms. If they were skilled they could save for college. I admire Short Creek for pullling themselves up

by their bootstraps. Incest and forced marriage are crimes

without constitutional protection. Cedar Girls married at 14-17 through the late 90's.

[DadsBlueAngel]

I seem to have lost my comment on what has and hasn't

been normal in LDS vs Polygamist teenagers in Utah. Utah

was poor, especially after the Iron Mine cllosed. Town boys

got jobs as soon as they could and gave the money to their

mothers. My youngest Uncle managed a garage at 16, so

he was able to save money for college. In the 60's-90's

LDS girls married older boys commonly and consent was

common, unless wards of the state. My neice was denied and had to wait until her fiance went to college.

[nnnneva]

Per Wikipedia: Birth defects

The Colorado City/Hildale area has the world's highest incidence of fumarase deficiency, an extremely rare genetic condition which causes severe mental retardation. Geneticists attribute this to the prevalence of cousin marriage between descendants of two of the town's founders, Joseph Smith Jessup and John Yeates Barlow

[DadsBlueAngel]

I've worked with victims of abuse. I do know how painful abuse can be. It is hell to deal with. Living with my Father after the War in China was no picnic, neither is Radiation Exposure. You can walk and work and have your life. Many in Southern Utah have never been compensated for Radiation Deaths because they practice plural marriage and were afraid to come forward.

I've worked with incest victims before, and

understand the trauma inflicted. Some wotking

with polygamous girls

[DadsBlueAngel]

As to the Down's Syndrome children, Jeffs brothers and I were born, there were 28 Downs syndrome babies born just in tiny St. George just in 1952. [Peoples Magazine,about 1979] Radiation may cause dangerous dinginess. Many founders of great religions were nuts according to William James. Maybe the FLDS will eventually make something of themselves. The anti-testosterone shot may be mandatory for pedophiles as a condition of parole long before they get out. It medically

gelds men with cancer.

[genevievecheri]

good i hope so, if that is the least of it, it still is not enough, cancer is an easy way out compared to what the victims of abuse deal with for the rest of thier lives.

[utahpirateradio]

I made a new video about the FLDS. I've got a couple more in mind. Let me know what you think, I'll keep adding more.

[fincenMIB]

Thanks the more the merrier!

[DadsBlueAngel]

Google alerted me a comment. I'd be glad to help in any way I can.Prostate cancer, has produced wives whp can attest to their husbands complete loss of libido that information could be gathered easily in any

area with high rates of this cancer where men are on the anti-testosterone shot without a prior attraction to children. Men vowed to celabicy would be a reasonable test group. I know how my partner was before. Now he has no interest. The gelding and gutting had little effect.

[B7o0k3]

that aint no fucking religion thats a damn cult an excuse to moleste and rape children sick fucker needs to die

[2y8]

sick fucks.

[str8jacket5150]

I hope that Dr. Phill doesnt get a wild hair & try to bail out Jeffs

[fincenMIB]

Well if you want to help, the Salt Lake City Tribune Blog & Deseret Newspaper Blog at the end of each FLDS story is dominated by pro fundamentalist. We who are trying to address the abuses and human rights issue, are being attacked for doing so. IS IT A UTAH THING?

If you wish to add a voice of reason to the debates, come over and help out! One article yesterday has already generate 36 pages of comments, favoring the RIGHTS of Fundamentalist to do as they chose with therir off spring.

[DadsBlueAngel]

It's lack of education. You need to read up

on International law. That fellow who came to

the conference to warn of the weak bargaining

position failure to call Genocide a Genocide would weaken the US Bargaining position in the

UN was proved right in Georgia. How'd you like

to be hiding in a basement with your kids and have a grenade lobbed in on you. If you don't

stand up to the lesser Genocide, it will get worse. That's called escalation.

[mrsruiz]

is escape the book that ruby wrote?

[brandilillywhite]

No Carolyn Jessop wrote that

[hopey2540]

Caroline Jessop wrote the book

[2possi]

sick pedos shuld be shot

[pass1myway]

im jsut about done reading ESCAPE.... I have to give Carolyn J many props for finally leaving the abuse mental and phsical and verbal that goes on behind the CURTIAN that is called pologymy I think these men(warren jeffs and merrill jessop) are sick sick SICK men and should be made into enunichs for their crime agaisnt females... they females were brainswashed INTO beleiving all this because they were born into this so called religion.... thye took mormonism and ran with it...

[fincenMIB]

Carolyn was courageous, she ran in 2002 I think. I had already moved out of Utah oe I would of made an attempt to work with her. I lived only 26 miles away and was focused on the juveniles. We actually had a better option for adults on the run, because crossing state lines was not a legal issue for them.

[arielavio]

PROSECUTE all this pedophiles!!!!!!not only Jeff Warren...this place is full of them!!!!what is stopping the ADA..mormon money?? go figure...

[franchockey]

fuckers

[jweapon09]

Yea yeah i hope that nasty ass son of a bitch dies a slow and awful death..warren jeffs is nothin but a little bitch and the FLDS is nothin but pure ass bull shit..a shitty cult who takes the innocence of little girls..disgusting..i woulda slit that fuckers throat if i was in that in bread fuckin community of colorado city..FUCK HIM!

[gingersnap313]

I also just finished reading Escape. What a horrible life to be born into. Those old pedophiles need to be stopped. What horrendous men. They WILL all burn in hell.

[DadsBlueAngel]

If the girl is past puberty it's rape not

pedophilia. Forced sex, in or out of

marriage needs to be a crime. Forced

marriage is a crime, the law needs to

stiffen up.

Pablo Cassals married a 20 year old

when he was 80. I doubt there is anything

wrong about it. She's 50 and very rich

now.

[LordElvis666]

Puberty doesn't determine whether it's pedophila or not, it's the legal age of consent within the jurisdiction.

[Hereticbooks]

DadsBlueAngel

Are you stupid? You can't tell the difference between a 20 year old and a 14 year old? 14 year old girls are VERY vulnerable to the wiles of adults...especially if the adults tell them they're pretty, desirable...ADULT?

IDIOT! What planet are you from? There's a reason why there are LAWS protecting minors. It's because minors CAN'T protect themselves. Fool

[DadsBlueAngel]

Um... many polygamists are very tall and are related to my family though we're LDS. When I

was 14 I could pass for twenty. My Grand daughter was 5' 10. I am addressing the notion that I'm an idiot. Planet: Cedar City. And yes, I think minors should be protected in many ways, including from Genocide ie.

YFK. Some of the pictures from those mass

foster care facilities of abused toddlers

were grisly.

[tysojay]

Just finished reading escape + found it compelling! Its astounding 2 hear of men tha abuse there own religion so much. In todays world we hear of terrorism all over the news but this sort of evil + ludicris behavoiur is terror at its absoulate highest! They demean victimise + downgrade there own women in a way i find so extreme it hurts 2 read about! Im at a complete lose as 2 how

polygamy is benefical marryin a 85yr man at 17 is

completely mad + terrilbly wrong on all counts of

human instinct

[fincenMIB]

There is a new case about to hit of the same area! The "pure seed" doctrine, where a dad married his biologigal daughter and so has made 4 children with her. Its polygamy because the mother permitted it or her religion required it. It will be in the news soon.

fincenMIB

[Bigmase23]

I am totally shocked and have googled a huge amount of information after I have read "escaped" by Carolyn Jessop. Although I feel some facts are beyond comprehension. I thought I struggle to believe how women feel so "worthless" yet provide the future for this community. However, how can these women, children and men fear living in an inadequate world that they have helped create? I read an article on the number of retarded children within the community, surely there are questions to be asked?

[fincenMIB]

It is an amazing place. turn the clock back 100 years except for trucks seen at every home. I stepped into the Lenore Holm case in August of 2000, as the Tri-State Rep.f FOR KIDS SAKE. The adjacent community our world both ignored the abuses and allowed the group to self correct the abuses, which the group did not do. Compounded by the 1 man rule men and women lived in fear!

[Sorokowski]

I just finished the book last week. Fascinating isnt it? I was especially shocked at the ending to find out that Carolyn's eldest daughter actually returned to the cult!

[runt0628]

Warren Jeffs and Merrill Jessop needs to burn in hell for what they have done to people and the fiflth they have brought to this earth. They accuse us "outsiders" of being unholy and immoral. I think those boys better take a look in the mirror.