Terry Jones' Barbarians - "Savage Goths"

[goldensassenach]

The Genographic project is not proof beyond a doubt.It is a theory,the same as the Out of Africa theory.A few thousand blood tests do not = world population nor does it cover 120,000 yrs of world history.Granted it is a good theory but it has flaws and accepting it as scientific law isn't wise.We still have alot to learn.

[chaosfive55]

We all have pure blood, you know--human blood! Every human on the planet is descended from a group of about 30,000 or so from Africa who survived a major extinction event roughly 100,000 years ago.

[ThePersia123]

Well, even if you take the theory that humans migrated out of Africa in the first place, that is not true because there were humans already spread out of the globe by then within that context, go look at a human movement map, you will see what I mean. And actually, it has not been proven that humans came from Africa, so...

[scurvywombat]

Well said.

[mmedefarge]

Right you are. The 10 yr. Genographic Project, a study sponsored by National Geographic, proved beyond a doubt that we are all derived from the !Kung people of Africa. They sampled DNA in every area of the world & only one set of genetic markers were consistently found in all peoples. Those genetic markers are from the !Kung people, one of the most ancient peoples on earth & the first to leave Africa & populate the earth. Racists of all colors hate to hear this, it busts their bubble. :-D

[chaosfive55]

@mmedefarge--Say it now, and say it loud: I'm black, and I'm proud!

[mmedefarge]

LOL. Ain't we all, like it or not.

[aidiero]

@chaosfive55 I"m black BUT NOW IM brown bcoz OF THE SUN...HEHEHE

[chaosfive55]

@aidiero hahaha!!!:)

[MokomaSusi]

@mmedefarge

So? You are trying to say we own something to africans? lmao.

[mmedefarge]

@MokomaSusi Eh? Please explain; did you mean "owe"?

[evilscotsmin]

@mmedefarge not saying its wrong ill have to read the study myself ...but one genetic marker in everybody how does that point to just one peoples..the kungs what if that genetic marker was pasts on to the kungs and not from them and weres the history of the kungs leaving and populating and why would one type of race make so many other types of races ....black people born in england are still black ... regaurdless were there born there would be no white no asian just one race

[mmedefarge]

@evilscotsmin It took thousands of years. This genetic marker is passed down through the male line. It is found in all male !Kung people .It is found in every area of the world but not in all people, only some people have it but having it relates that person to the !Kung people. Blacks born in England are either descendants from slavery times or immigrants. The indigenous people of Britain were wiped out years ago. The Celts were originally from the Alps.

[MurdingMonster]

your forgoting 1 major thing. Dorian blood is most pure blood in greece i dont feel like explaining what it is to your small mind. Now when palgois got the city back from the crusaders he quickly toook people from south greece with pure blood for the recent dorian migration to fill constantinople up again. My blood has been tested to further prove my thinking. its 95 percents greek the other 10 percent RIBNI i thinik the most common blood factor in italy. My mothers grandfather is from Con.

[polarisreseau]

after discoveries on Hittites cousin of the Kourganes they know that every language today conclusion that all languages germanic are substrate of Basque (eushkara) and Parsi

[polarisreseau]

ancient Basque come from the Caucasus they were called kourganes (géne Y=R1bib2 *) either Gaelic or proto indo European or indo-Afghan; it was 3000 before us. Their forefathers les Tokhariens lived in Siberia and north Dyes the warp threads (géne of R1bib) Chinese mummies and populates Ouigour.

their mutation gives 2 branches, Celtic and germanic:

modern Scottish Irish basqu English, north-Italy, Spain, France,...

Saxony, Thuringia Danish Dutch modern, west German Austrian Friesian Norway.....

[AndreiM999]

My friend, as Herodotus said Thracian kind of population, known with difered tribe names were the largest people from Europe, from Anatolia (Turkey) to Balkan till Poland , Slovakia or Austria today,s lands. Almost all western ancient peoples pass through these thracian former lands and mixt with them..such celtics,some germanic tribes, slavic, goths!! . How can you distinguish or not the thracian DNA? * By the way, The Basque have no connection with other european people ..so..

[MurdingMonster]

simply thracia has greek blood. Constantiople.

[AndreiM999]

My friend .. We are talking about different things. Yes, Constantinopolis was mostly a greek town . Since 330 till VII century we still can talk about latin influence and latin language but after this period , greek remained the main language ,,practically we can talk as about a greek state. Don,t use anymore this greek blood . Greeks have not 100% unic blood. You are not so pure as you think. During the centuries other populations with different origine mixted with original greeks.

[martiko3]

The Roman were unusually clever, They constructed buildings which alone them could make, and if somebody proved to be the best then they had to be paid them.

So for ROME the best cavalry was mercenaries, the best winter infantry also of foreign mercenaries, the similar for civil or military navy and so Phoenician, galiciens, germanic vasgondes and it was Arverne the general Vercingetorix who won the Gauls for the consul Julius

[martiko3]

Absolutely because they were refugees more than invaders, Europe had just been subjected to more than a decade of meteorological disaster, owed to the explosion of a volcano.

New discoveries in genetics, climatology and as several dozens thousand bars of the administration and as new body searches archeological, ruin a lot of beliefs and alone the Vandals the Roman by the back from the Sardinia came back into Rome by breaking

[joonte1010]

Hes fucking English language is so damn Ennoying..

[keenoled]

Terry Jones is awesome, I adore this series!

[Spaceomatic]

@keenoled Have you seen Terry Jones: Medieval lives? Because that's another great one of his!

[BestManMe09]

Benny Hill was considered funnier than Monty Python by a UHF station that ran both! The station was WLVI TV Channel 56 in Cambridge, Mass! I agree!

[JaguarOFcomedy]

When the Western Roman Empire finally ended there where no use for it any more.

But the Culture did not really die out some of the "barbarians" would seek to persevere it.

[EdBond]

terry jones looks at other historians for the history of rome.Look at other sources!

[Quentin0000000000]

this is a piss take of history

[martiko3]

absolutely agreed and as in an inquiry of police, they can consult genetics and administrative accountancy, and alone the vandals ransack and burn Rome, otherwise he would have remained nothing!!! Their descendant populates even supporting the Sardinia!

[remo306]

People fail to realize that the sacking, and ultimately fall, of Rome was necessary to the development of western society as we know it today.

[daftello]

yes i agree with you dmarotta7,as a keen amateur historian i find his shows cringe worthy in there almost childish anti-roman views.you dont have to tear down one civilisation to trumpet the virtues of another

[mollymange]

I think you're right, promising people lands and then putting them into concentration camps and offering dog meat for a slave is upholding roman values at it's best. Then using your trusted allies against usurpers(a common site in the civilized world) as cannon fodder is honouring roman law of treaties. Hiding in a swamp while Rome was threatened and not negotiating with "lesser people" can be described as patriotic. Well, I hope I have a childish view than to defend these ROMAN BARBARIANS!

[dmarotta7]

terry jones is NOT a historian,and his ridiculous shows are little more than anti-roman propaganda.fortunately anyone with a brain realises this

[AndreiM999]

Jordanes wrote:Getaes(which are thracian origine,then by latinization became "roman citizens" bigining with 212(Caracalla)and today known as "romanians" and "aromanians"- syntetic exoname).In his opera he used the names "getaes" and "gothaes" for the same people. Could be getaes and goths mixt and 1000 yaers later,foreign historians talk only about goths, of courese as their ancestors (see political implications as "romanus rex"). That,s why they didn,t distroied Rome.Becouse they were romans.

[martiko3]

the latium and therefore the Roman are the only inhabitants almost from Italy to belong to the genetic group R1b which is the Atlantic group as Irish Basque Englishmen, Norwegians, Dutches, 60 % of Spanishes, 50 % of the Frenchmen the other group being R1a or Slavonic group as Swedishes, 50 % of German, Russian Czech, Serbians ....... but no traces of Thrace!!!

[fellinian]

R1b1 is the most common group in Italy.

[hdufort]

The Byzantine Empire lasted about 1000 years more. Alaric shattered something that was already badly broken (Rome had been plundered a few times already).