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1 in 4 Teen Girls have an STD. There are 30 plus STD's. The World Health Organization declared that the hormonal contraceptives are a GROUP 1 Carcinogen. Health Care??? We would never take a PILL to shut down a perfectly healthy liver so what are we doing pumping carcinogens into a perfectly healthy women and saying that it health care. Medicine will NOT help heal a social problem. Contraception has NOT help people be more responsible. There is a better way! Creighton model!
Sorry, doctors are the real problem with the medical system now. Deflecting the blame does not change the fact that doctors are denying procedures based on their own prejudices and beliefs. So no, 45 thousand doctors are most certainly wrong. They just want to be sure they can get more money, that's it.
"America's health care system is second only to Japan, Canada, Sweden, Great Britain, well...all of Europe. But you can thank your lucky stars we don't live in Paraguay!"
And tell me..why the heck won't medi-care cover surgery for this tumor the size of a bowling ball on my left thigh? They say it is cosmetic. You tell me... search "fatty tumor on left thigh" or look on my channel and see what I mean. I am dead serious here.
@dagearjammer 20 years ago it would have been covered. but the republicans in congress over the years of regulated this program to death. They want it to not work anymore. They would rather see health care stay a gigantically profit driven industry. How on earth the American people allow this to go on is beyond all comprehension.
Ask your self, why shouldn't health care be non profit. when you find that answer look to congress to see who is trying to stop that from happening
As soon as you remove profit from healthcare financing you get the same product for about 1/3 of the price.. get rid of these leeches.. theyre not helping anyone.
I have been saying this for 30 ears. Why do people find it acceptable for a company to make money gambling on your health? Why is this not a Not For Profit sector?????? WHY
"America's health care system is second only to Japan, Canada, Sweden, Great Britain, well...all of Europe. But you can thank your lucky stars we don't live in Paraguay!"
What really makes me sick is that people that are against Free Health care all have a full blown health cover by the government, let's see what kind of speech they would have if they didn't have that privilege and if they didn't have the millions that pharmaceutical companies gave them. Fucking corporate sale out whores.
I wish we had a tandem system or completely private or completely government run. I'm one of those people that had "hope" that something would change for the better. Instead I have to buy insurance that I still can't afford.
@submetropolis from a neutral standpoint on your politics but quite far to the left in my own country, it appears that the US has missed the mark by a long shot, in my country there is a tandem system (public-private) where everyone pays for the public system through income taxes from there that pays for medicine, trips to the doctor, trips to hospital, operations and so on.
@submetropolis and then we get to the private system of which there are many providers for those who want to pay a little more in order to bypass waiting lists on elective surgeries (boob jobs, nose jobs and the like) but everything else is the domain of the public system.
@irishgodfatherchris But does the income taxes cost more? Since it provides all those benefits. How do you think it helps with the money issue people are having? (I want your opinion).
@zoombiedeadgirl they are notionally higher than the US but seeing as how it means that if we get sick we'll be treated at technically no cost we don't mind, Australians as a whole don't overly mind being a little cash-strapped as long as we know that if we get ill we will be taken care of we don't mind, even the Opposition Leader (who is very right-wing) wouldn't dream of getting rid of it, he may re-design it but it would still be very similar to what we have now.
@zoombiedeadgirl the only reason people in the US particularly on the right don't want a public system is because it will hurt their business interests not because its a bad system, its not perfect by any means but you will never get a perfect system but they don;t like it because it will cost them money from their corporate donors who are quite often insurance companies who as you know is only around to make money not to look after people which is a reason why I support a public system.
If the doctors believe reform is such a great idea, why don't they LOWER their friggin prices so people can afford it? They want reform but aren't willing to lose a single penny doing it.
I am embarrassed that healthcare reform has been turned into a political issue. If the majority of health professionals believe reform is a good idea, it probably is! These are experts working in this field. How can people be against/for this bill soley because their political party is against/for it? I am not a democrat, but I would never cast a vote that spits in the face of professionals who disagree with my political opinion. I cannot believe the ignorance of people.
I like how they couldn't get actors to sound as insincere as the docters they we're trying ti mimic, so they just used PR people, such wonderful irony. of course as they point out they lay great store in the relationship between the patient and the health provider who is going to decide whether you get one of these snake oil salesman or a mortician.
@Billinstoke Please look up "Ted Epperly, MD, FAAFP, Program Director and Chief Executive Officer. The Family Medicine Residency of Idaho" It must be a strange group Doctors that goes to the trouble of putting forward a "YOUTUBE” video that according to advocates of private health insurance puts their professional and financial standing on a less attractive standing. Or maybe these people look at them selves as Doctors first business people second?
Google *ALEC Exposed* by John Nichols at The Nation.
ALEC Sabotaged HC reform/Single Payer efforts. They crafted the Freedom of Choice in Health Care Act, which, despite its Orwellian name, was written to DENY the citizens of any state that passed it the freedom to set up a Single Payer system. It played a key role in a well-coordinated effort to keep the most progressive proposals from being enacted at the state or federal level while blocking provisions imposing oversight of ins companies.
WOW!! EUGENICS PROPAGANDA AT IT'S BEST! LOVE THE SCRIPTED DOCTORS(ACTORS)STATEMENTS! THE MINUTE THE GOVERN(CONTROL)MENT(MIND) GETS INVOLVED WE ARE ALL FUCKED!!
@zetokiva The truth is this video is obviously 100% genuine the contributors are honest enough too supply the speakers names, qualifications and general operating area. It is also obvious they are speaking from the heart and brain both organs given your statement you obviously lack. UHC's work and work well given the US system costs 16% of GDP while the average UHC cost on average 8% of GDP and they still manage to supply higher rated health care than the US.
Healthcare reform:depopulation, only healthy people wanted-as slaves to NWO.See Rep John Haller on youtube and then go to Homeland security and safety and READ all pages esp on ZOMBIE APOCOLYPSE or infec attack. PRAY !!!MARANATHANA
Sounds all well meaning, But, Anything short of Socialised Healthcare is load of crap, The Doctors are admitting to their failures, But they are the ones who have been doing that for years, No credit is really going to be given for knocking that shit on the head, NHS is the best for society all round, Doctors are paid, Patients are treated, It`s people making obscene profit off the ill and injured, That is what`s truly sick
@lumeriam The Real Issue is: Why are we increasingly manufacturing Sick people? --- and this when the other healthy industries like steel mills went overseas? They only want to manufacture sick people, then "heal them" for life, lol, a revolving profit door. The government will try to help more, but always have an "unfortunate deficit" at least on paper, lol. "health promotion, lol"
And now the Republicans have shown their true colors with the Paul Ryan plan that would DESTROY Medicare and replace it with a fucking VOUCHER system.
And if a senior or someone with health problems can't find a private insurance co. to provide insurance for the price of the voucher - too bad senior, you're on your own.
Yet that same Ryan plan tries to give more tax breaks for the rich.
Republicans, led by the rich, followed by the stupid.
Sweden have one of the highest taxes in the world, but we are allright, the Swedish citizens pay much money in tax but that is a good thing, why?, because we know that if we get hurt the population helps us finance it, and if another person get hurt I will help him finance his recover, its a win win situation, I know a person that got his hand fixed from a chrushing accident, by the hospital he was charged 250 Swedish crowns that is about 24 dollars, the rest the Swedish citizens helped to pay.
Great video. These doctors are spot on. Americans wake up. Dont fall for the negative adds. Although this bill is not perfect it is a step in the right direction. Obama will get it right! Republicans you have no clue. People who are against this bill are uneducated and affraid of change.
Oscar-winning actor Michael Douglas gave something back to the Montreal hospital that first detected his throat cancer — a disease several American doctors had missed.
Only weeks earlier, Douglas had sought treatment from several doctors elsewhere for his constantly sore throat, but they had all given him a clean bill of health.
@nottinmatterz2day The critical flaw in that bubble is that you only get to choose what you can afford. If you are just meeting the rent and child care expenses every month, or if you are older or have health issues - your system results in NO choice.
@megarational yup. thats the least problems compared to the other options i think.
other option steal from everyone, make them be able to afford less, so that you can fund the most poor, who now get free healthcare that is lower quality based on just the fact they're not paying for it. theres less incentive to get the best for your money and for the doctors and hospitals to give you the best for your money if its guaranteed by the government
Take a look at our socialist health care system in Europe and see for yourselves. Capitalism in America = some people can afford the best health care in the world, and some can´t. Socialism in Europe = nobody, not even the middle class can afford a good health care, because THERE ISN´T ANY !!! Socialism in the system means there are plenty of cheap (paid for through higher taxes) medications for everybody (flu, cold), but there aren´t enough expensive medications for serious illnesses.
health care reform should start with the big pharma companies who would hate to "cure" anything in fear that the cure would stop profits. From meds only helping symptoms, and all the side effects they put into drugs, to keep you sick so you go and by drugs for those symptoms. is this not a screwed up system or what. the more people sick the more profit ..and yes there are people that evil wake up. Its all good business to them. what they pay in fines would pull usa out of deficit.
lets check out big pharma and their ability to mark up medications by 450,000%and their idea that medical marijuana would take profits out of their purses. those greedy sons of bitches should be hung with the fda,and the WHO.check out video by dr gary null on autism he give peer review facts in a tribunal in new york state about pharma mark up its sickening.
I wonder if Dick Cheney would have gotten all of his heart surgeries if he was a private citizen? With his pre-existing condition he would have been DENIED! But nope my tax dollars pay for HIS health care and ALL the health care for ALL the politicians, but we the people suffer while they sit and laugh at us. We are the victims of greed. Think about that the next time you get a huge bill from your ins. company. Stop the Republicans from repealing the new health care bill.
@NowThePeople Obamacare virtually guarantees HC costs and premiums will rise because all it does is spread liability and find novel ways of redistributing the burden of an insanely unhealthy country among the young, healthy, and responsible. Even the NY Times admitted that for most healthy families, premiums will increase significantly. You're criticizing the industry... on the grounds of a bill that radically entrenches their product through mandates and buying restrictions.
@thereinliestherib 450,000 Doctors Can't Be Wrong. You are an idiot! That's right. An idiot! But then again, I enjoy the benefits of the British system everyday. So I cannot help but feel pity and to be a bit condescending towards my American friends in the colonies. America is no longer the shining beacon of the world-sort your shit out.
@TruthApple88 Except that I've provided facts to support my analysis. And what do you have? Petty, misdirected angst. Let me know how that works out for you in life! Or don't, because spreading HC liability only encourages the lack of personal health responsibility that is the core reason for HC cost increases, and thus socialization yields a self-perpetuating cycle.
@thereinliestherib 450,000 Doctors Can't Be Wrong. We here in the United Kingdom do not put a price tag on the well being of the public. True, costs have gone up in recent years, but that is due to the increasing coverage of our healthcare system to treat more illnesses an the recent economic downturn. You cannot argue with this; these are men and women who have spent many years in study and practice of medicine. Yet you disregard their analysis!
@TruthApple88 Their "analysis" doesn't conform with the facts and is ethically compromised by their overriding economic interest in increasing health costs, liabilities, and required care. I lost respect for the hippocratic trade last time I hurt my knee, and instead of counseling me on how to help heal it effectively, my doc just raised his brow and asked if I wanted some painkillers--when painkillers slow the healing process.
@thereinliestherib So,you think that the healthcare system in America should not be reformed? In all honesty if your doctors are treating you like that then why are you railing against reform? To be fair to the Americans your country is quite large and populous, so it is understandable that you do not want a serious hike in taxes for Medicare Medicaid. I only have one question here. What do you think should be done to healthcare in America or if anything should be done?
@TruthApple88 Did I say I don't support reform? Of course I do--which is contrary to the political and industrial interests who control the outcome of any such "reform," which is why Obamacare simply spreads liability for an unhealthy, irresponsible population, rather than forcing individuals to take responsibility for themselves. Nice straw man! What would I do? Easy: fat taxes. Want a burger? Sure, but it comes with the necessary fast food 50 cent surcharge. No more free rides!!!
@thereinliestherib I get you now. You make sense, I am sorry for what i said earlier-that was ignorance on my part. I did not know that ALL Americans could recieve free healthcare. From what you wrote there I can guess that what uninsured people recieve FREE under the current,private system isn't too great in quality but still costs. I think I can agree-anyone who dosen't have health coverage dosen't get treatment unlike what I now know is going on under the current American system. Makes sense!
@TruthApple88 .....people should just STOP paying for healthcare insurance. Pay cash at the doctor and you'll get a discount. Negotiate any bills and offer to pay a percentage. It will save you an enormous amout of money. If you have a catostophic illness....you're gonna go bankrupt whether you have health insurance or not.
@Andreas748 Are you dreaming in technicolor? Doctors can't even handle their existing workload. Why on earth would they accept less money to treat a patient? It makes no sense whatsoever.
@davijeph The system with the greatest administrative efficiency and cost effectiveness is the single payer system, with cost savings estimated at 7% of your GDP, yet you and others fell for the GOP and insurance industry propaganda and blew your chance to get it.
The reason for the high administrative work for Doctors is that they have to deal with a myriad of complex different private insurance plans and fight those same companies just to get claims paid.
@migrational I think you must have misunderstood what I wrote . Being a Brit and living with our NHS single payer system I like most Brits rich or poor would never get rid of the NHS. I doubt any Brit since 1947 as gone bust because of health cost. Will always be able to pay prescription costs.We do not understand the idea of co-pay, deductibles, pre-existing conditions. Never receive direct billing for heath care (think what that saves in administration cost) . Regards
Actually, 450,000 doctors can be wrong. They were too busy studying medicine to learn anything about economics.
And davijeph, no Brit has gone bust because of healthcare cost, but your country has gone bust, largely due to enormous government spending programs... Not to mention the thousands who get sicker on waitlists. We in American do not understand the idea of being diagnosed with cancer, and waiting months or years for surgery or treatment.
@nptne1572 Well if you under stand economics you will understand the UK is not "bust" but just like the US because of collective stupidness of the labour unions. the greed, incompetence and corruption of those responsible for running private production industries including the financial industry not to mention the greed and short sightedness of investors finds itself with a mountain (but not unclimbable ) of both public and private debt.
@nptne1572 Yes, we have spent to much on the many and varied Government programmes I would argue that over the years to many of our welfare programmes have been been misused unemployment and family support for example. However the NHS which costs only 8% of our GDP against 16% for GDP for the US yet gets a far better overall rating for health care than the US system. Please don't start with your Ayn Rand nonsense.
@nptne1572 amen, and also how to code illnesses for hmo's according to government issues and paper work. to make medicine affordable we need more doctors period , nothing else matters but compeitition in the marketplace.
@davijeph Wow thank you... I remember when i was a young adult the republicans were pushing a thing called an HMO that no one understood or heard of. I had one of the very first HMO's it was called health alliance plan. It had something called a co-pay. When i told my friends that I had to bay $10.00 every time I saw a doctor they say "But I thought you had insurance" The same thing with prescriptions. They said,why do you have to pay for part of your prescription I thought you were covered
@Clownwhiper Prescription are £7.40 per item you can buy a 3 month certificate for £29.10 this saves you money if you need four or more items in 3 months period or a 12 month certificate is £104.00 and saves money if 15 or more items are needed in 12 months. So in theory you would have to pay a maximum of around $160 per year no matter how many drugs you take. Drugs issued in Hospitals are free. There are many categories where they are free over 60s, children under16, students at Uni examples
@Clownwhiper My own example how it work. 40 years ago my hearing was damaged in an accident. After several operations I was supplied with a hearing aid FOC by the NHS some years ago my hearing further deteriorated and they fitted me with a BAHA bone-inductor aid complete with free life long maintenance including new aid every 3 years + batteries and check up. Direct cost to me? Zero. I think buying a BAHA in the US would beyond my means. The NHS does have its problems but on the whole is OK.
@davijeph And by the way, if a person is barely meeting the expenses for rent and raising a family, what money is left over to "bargain" for a better price from a doctor?
So you get your bypass price reduced from, say, $500,000 down to $350,000, just how does that help you if you don't have insurance to cover it?????
Americans have been lied to. I compiled a blog titled "Corporate Executives Deny 57 Million Americans Healthcare - by Bill Woollam" Just Google that.
The US health care system is one of the worst in the world and has been compromised by the US Administration, the Health Insurance and Management Offices, and American Medical Assoc.
Can., Britain, France,Cuba, Australia have hassle free, debt-free, comprehensive, universal health plans where every citizen receives health care with no added costs
Most of you people on here are missing the point. Healthcare needs to be made affordable to ALL people, plain and simple. If 3rd world countries have a better healthcare coverage for their people, there is something seriously wrong with that picture!
Just as luck would have it a new academic report is just out which should make interesting reading for those who are interested in the comments between thereinliestherib and jnycnuk a summary of this report can be seen on BBC NEWS tapping in Health and finding life expectancy on the rise 'despite obesity epidemic'. I pass no comment apart from it makes interesting reading.
DOCTORS DO NOT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT ANYBODY BUT THEMSELFS THEY JUST WANT TO GET LAID AND HAVE ALOT OF MONEY BECAUSE THEY RUIND MY LIFE FUCK YOU FUCK HUMANITY THEY ALL DESEREVE TO FUCKING BURN
a sedentary lifestyle which is problematic (moreso among the poor) is a direct result of lack of safe recreation facilities, cutbacks in schools for physical education and sports, inadequate parental contact because of the need to work longer hours to pay for the basics, mental and physical health issues and gangs. it is easy to blame the victim but the solution is far more important.
@jnycnuk So forks cause obesity? Sorry guy, but you're just delegating blame for an individual problem. Healthy foods are easier, cheaper, and more abundant than junk, and physical exercise is a biological imperative for humans. The fact that others can't meet such minimum requirements is hardly an example of external factors when there are healthy poor people (myself) and when modern obesity rates have no historical precedent. What, did everyone's genes change in the last two decades???
@thereinliestherib forks cause obesity - wtf? healthy alternatives are cheaper?? in what world are you living. junk food is cheap and easy as the nearest big M. supermarket healthy options are also more expensive. and science has proven that people of differing racial backgrounds metabolize food differently. you have a one track mind pilgrim - all health issues are somehow a product of being overweight or being a smoker. open your eyes to bigger picture.
@jnycnuk dont forget sitting on their ass watching american idol and almost 36 hours of television a week. Cut the cord and then open the rec. facilities.
The overhead cost of operating the United States health-care system is more than three times that of running Canada's on a per capita basis, and the gap is getting bigger, according to a study published today in the New England Journal of Medicine.
Savings gleaned from a national health insurance system like Canada's would be enough to provide medical insurance for the 41 million Americans who now lack coverage, the researchers said.
@jnycnuk I love how the economic studies originate with the industry who profits from their manipulation. I don't refute that administrative problems exist in the American system, which they clearly do, but these costs pale in comparison to the disproportional costs of unhealthy behavior. They say the mandate is justified by equity, but in reality the costs of obesity alone (350b/yr) is enough to cover the uninsured (89b/yr) four times over. So... you believe in wholesale bullshit.
@thereinliestherib the primary difference between your opinion and my opinion is that your concern is for you personally and my concern is for americans as a whole. what is really sad is that i am not even an american!
@jnycnuk Wait a minute. So a health care system that entrenches the poor health that causes its disproportional, unprecedented costs serves the whole? My god, I believe you are delusional sir--I hope you're insured!
@thereinliestherib nope, wrong again. you just don't get it. i will say it once again. health care for all gives a nation a fair shake for all. rich or poor, all should be allowed to be healthy. preventative health care offers EVERYONE the opportunity to live longer and without complications and care for those who are ill will be able to get better without falling into poverty. you still haven't figured out that i am canadian and i do have health care until the end of my days.
The overhead cost of operating the United States health-care system is more than three times that of running Canada's on a per capita basis, and the gap is getting bigger, according to a study published today in the New England Journal of Medicine.
Savings gleaned from a national health insurance system like Canada's would be enough to provide medical insurance for the 41 million Americans who now lack coverage, the researchers said.
@jnycnuk Sounds like another ten pounds of bullshit in a five pound bag. I don't believe democratic trial lawyers who claim expanding liabilities is for "victim's rights" and not their own salaries, nor do I believe half the economically-illiterate claims that come out of the health care field. Mainly because there's no way to extricate industry interests from actual doctor's claims anymore, not since the last time I got a booboo and my doctor asked if I wanted some brand of oxycontin.
@jnycnuk You're extrapolating from data that was produced by the industry who profits from the further socialization of health care. It's like hey, let's go ahead and listen to what the fast food industry has to say about dietary standards and then base FDA policy off of it. You trust the data of ethically compromised sources. Medical research bodies (industry funded, btw) have no vested interest in reducing health costs; it's contrary to their self interest. Psshhh...
@thereinliestherib i think you are far to negative and suspicious. the bottom line is that all people need proper health care - not just those that can afford it.
@jnycnuk 70% obesity/overweight in the US isn't suspicious? It isn't suspicious that an industry-funded political party (dems, go figure!) comes up with a bill that, instead of reducing costs, saddles the vulnerable with the debt of an unhealthy population? Boy I can't wait to see what this country looks like in twenty years if prevailing trends continue.
@jnycnuk Total load of crap. Genetic causes for weight problems account for less than 5% of the overall population, which hardly matches up with the 70% who are obese or overweight. What, did everybody's genes change in the last few decades? I think not. And the fact that there are those who are exposed to the same environmental conditions and remain healthy obliterates the "conditioning" argument.
@thereinliestherib Some hormone problems may cause overweight and obesity, such as underactive thyroid (hypothyroidism), Cushing's syndrome, and polycystic ovarian syndrome (PCOS).
Underactive thyroid is a condition in which the thyroid gland doesn't make enough thyroid hormone. Lack of thyroid hormone will slow down your metabolism and cause weight gain. You'll also feel tired and weak.
@jnycnuk You're ignoring my point. Congenital causes for weight problems account for less than 5% of the overall population, which hardly explains a 70% obesity/overweight rate. In fact, many of the secondary "causes" for weight problems you've cited are initially caused by poor weight and unhealthy habits in the first place (certain forms of diabetes, especially in children, are the best example).
@thereinliestherib while it is difficult to put every person with a weight problem in a box, the bottom line is that nobody wants to be overweight. there are many reasons why but to just say that they are the problem is just wrong.
@jnycnuk Actually its pretty easy. 70% obese/overweight, minus 5% who may have actual congenital causes, and you've got 65% of the population who is overweight/obese and unhealthy because of their own choices and laziness. The least healthy 5% of the country consumes about 70% of HC costs. What's wrong is the disproportional cost burden these people impose on the healthy and responsible who share their same insurance pools, actually.
@thereinliestherib you just don't get it. you still think that people have made the choice to be obese. people don't just wake up one day and say, "hey, i think i want to be fat." there are so many reasons that make a person susceptible to becoming overweight. it's not a case of people that have a weight problem are "bad" as you suggest.
@jnycnuk BS! The avg. American watches 4 hours of tv a day, and yet you still blame their condition on environmental factors? Other countries have better stats even with fewer accomodations to be healthy. You've offered no evidence in support of the blatantly fallacious view that people don't make themselves fat and unhealthy overall. But I guess I'm just hallucinating every time I go out and see my peers shoveling down unhealthy junk, and then making proud quips about it.
@thereinliestherib "It's just a lot more difficult to eat well when you don't have very much money," said Marilyn Townsend, professor of nutrition at the University of California-Davis. "Your major concern is not the nutrients in your food but having enough so your kids are full."Adherence to the popular Atkins diet costs about $15 per person per day, according to a USA Today analysis of the high-protein diet. Low-income families spend closer to $25 per person per week on food.
@jnycnuk Absolute bullshit. Healthy foods are cheaper and more abundant than junk. One economic reason we consume so much unhealthy food is because of corn/potato subsidies and other programs that inflate demand for American agroproducts. I work in food service, so I know what people eat and how product flows. The final choice lies with the consumer, so your deductive logic hardly explains why many are exposed to equal circumstances but remain healthy. News flash! It's because of CHOICE!
@jnycnuk Once again, how much of the population can claim genetic causes for their weight? 70%? Really?? I never really cared for how most people abuse their own bodies, but now that they want me to pay for their inevitable health problems, the game changes. I actually do wish people were healthier because they're seriously impairing their life's potential with such a stupid choice. I'm young, so I'd also definitely prefer if every member of the opposite sex wasn't fat/low self-esteem.
@thereinliestherib Certain medicines may cause you to gain weight. These medicines include some corticosteroids, antidepressants, and seizure medicines.
These medicines can slow the rate at which your body burns calories, increase your appetite, or cause your body to hold on to extra water. All of these factors can lead to weight gain.
@jnycnuk You're clearly not listening, and willfully so. Less than 5% of the overall population has congenitally caused obesity/weight problems. I'm sure you're just putting up numbers to delegate blame for a national obesity epidemic in typical scapegoating-fashion, and then you'll go and eat a bunch of unhealthy crap for every meal.
@thereinliestherib i am reading what you say but i don't agree with what you say. why don't you go after the fast food industry? there is more awareness about the ill effects of "fast food" than ever before. why don't you go after the advertising industry? americans are surrounded by ads from food companies. Often children are the targets of advertising for high-calorie, high-fat snacks and sugary drinks. The goal of these ads is to sway people to buy these high-calorie foods.
@jnycnuk Actually I fully support a measure that would create taxes on the goods and services (restaurant/fastfood, cigarettes, etc) that cause poor health. That's how taxes for goods are supposed to be designed, in order both to fund and to curtail the need for funds by reducing costs. That's how they're supposed to work, instead of insurance mandates imposed on the young, healthy, and responsible simply to benefit democrats' industry contributors.
@thereinliestherib hmmm.... more taxes eh. you sound more like the democrats that you dislike so much. you had better not let your republican friends hear you talk like that or you'll be tarred and feathered.
@jnycnuk I don't dislike democrats because I disagree with their principles--I dislike democrats because the strongest critique of their hypocrisy arises from those very principles. The binary logic that because I disagree with some policy I'm automatically disposed to one single party is totalitarian logic unbefitting an American. Fair tax policy is that which portions its burden according to who consumes the most of a given resource; exactly the opposite of how US HC functions.
@thereinliestherib well i think i have wasted enough time here. you believe that people with a weight problem or those that can't quit smoking or universal health care is bad. i believe you are terribly misguided.
@jnycnuk Oh really? You' haven't counterargued any of my data. Enjoy leeching off the younger generation to support your poor choices, when they won't even receive those same benefits in life. Good riddance to baby boomer ideology!
@jnycnuk Baby boomers can suck it, and good riddance to their petty, binary worldview. They've all climbed the ladder, only to kick it out from under their own children. That is, what few of them remain after all the drugs and divorce have taken their toll.
Your children won't afford college. They will be underinsured. They will never retire, and whatever retirement savings they set aside will grow only as fast as inflation.
The reason the US system costs more is not high rates of obesity or malpractice costs but because they are having too pay for a $multibillion insurance industry that supplies not so much as an aspirin to the patient. The US in not that different in make up than many other countries in terms of social mix, economic and cultural development even in things like obesity , drinking and smoking levels. Although they do seem to like shooting and killing each other with automobiles than most others.
@davijeph The US is not that different from other countries in terms of health stats? Sources please. The industry will benefit greatly because of Obamacare, because it gives them monopolistic leverage over both consumers and the political regulatory system that was originally designed to constrain the industry itself. You're absolutely and willfully ignorant of the facts.
@thereinliestherib According to figures on the UK an estimated 71% per cent of adults are overweight or obese not far behind your US rate at 74%. I suggest you understand your own system better and try to understand why it is in crisis by looking up “the U.S. Healthcare system in international Context”
@davijeph Nope. UK obesity is only 25%, according to recent figures, whereas in the US its around 34%, and certainly higher than last polled. In the US, that's a difference of about 27,000,000 people with an extreme, self-induced medical condition, and these are the people who contribute the greatest disproportion of health costs to the system as a whole. Glad to know I'm paying for the bypasses of people who won't exercise any more than lifting a fork, with these tuition bills and all.
@thereinliestherib Nope, About 46% of men in England and 32% of women are overweight (a body mass index of 25-30 kg/m2), and an additional 17% of men and 21% of women are obese (a body mass index of more than 30 kg/m2 ). 76% of men and 68% (71% on average) of women aged 55-64 are overweight or obese.
@davijeph Math much? That's a mean of 57.5% obese/overweight the entire population. How does that compare to 72% and above in the US? And how does it in any way align with the fact that obesity (an extreme condition, inevitably requiring care) is a much more significant proportion of the whole in the US? Oh yeah, it doesn't, just like I've said over and over. And again, you still have to defend the absurd notion that even UK rates are somehow nominal.
@thereinliestherib Nope . I think if you double check your statistics you will find that US rates for overweight and obesity while being higher in the US are not that different overall the various age groups to those in the UK. I do not intend to waste time looking up nation by nation statistics given the point you seem to be trying to make is not a valid one. The reason"Why should healthy poor people (like me)" are not be able to afford health cover is because there are to many fat arses?
@davijeph Wait a minute. I clearly show that your stats don't account for an enormous difference by population and proportion, and now you're once again ventruing the claim that the two countries are on par, while also ignoring your subsequent that either set of stats are nominal precursors of efficient health care? But you won't "waste time" defending your claims because you're such a special person that your claims are above reproach? Dumbass of the year, right there! DOTY!
@thereinliestherib The reason you cannot afford healthcare is because the system in the US is to expensive for the bulk of it citizens to pay for. Why do the UHC's in every advanced country supply to it's citizens all but 100% health cover including the poorest, fattest, idlest, stupidest not to mention unluckiest at half the cost the US manages? Why, because you not only have to pay in taxes Medicaid and medicare you also have to maintain a multi billion $ insurance industry.
@davijeph Horrible point. Both the programs you mentioned are billions of dollars in the hole, and have no way to get out except to by severe cuts--and neither party in this country is foolhardy enough to act on the truth because then they would be liable for being the bad guy.
@thereinliestherib Then you are doomed to never afford health care. You hate UHC's which you could afford. You would be delighted if health systems which help the poor collapsed. Because you say you are not fat you think you are immortal (you're not). You do not "clearly show that your stats don't account for an enormous difference by population and proportion" Yet the Academic clearly shows the US pays to much for the health care it gets. Your funeral, go without health cover, your choice.
@davijeph I'd support universal health care if it was funded equitably and in a fashion that was representative of personal risk. If it was funded in some way (taxes) through the goods and services that cause poor health--that which has caused our health care crisis--then we have deal. Short of that, I'll never ignore the fact that liberal arguments about health care completely ignore the reality of a nation of scootered, morbidly obese system riders dragging down the national economy.
@thereinliestherib Approximate UK Cost of pack of 20 cigarettes £6 tax paid out of that £5. For a pint of 4% beer, 37.4p goes in just excise duty, not counting the VAT of 17.5%. This excise duty rises to 50p for a 5% strength brew. In contrast just 7p is spent on the raw materials such as hops and barley. Please see my other comment at "Health Care Reform" "obamahealthcare"
@davijeph I don't have a good basis of reference to compare those numbers, but they do indicate a more efficient allocation of responsibility than the US. In my own region, smokers piss and moan about the slightest regulation as a threat to their personal liberty--all while their own added health costs are borne by non-smokers in their same insurance pools.
Why don't these same doctors push for transparency in malpractice, negligence and misconduct on the part of their peers? This information is already collected but it's not legal for the names of the offending doctors to be released to the public. If consumers had this information we could put the bad doctors out of business and reduce the cost of healthcare by reducing malpractice insurance, lawsuits and over treating. You see, 450,000 doctors can be wrong
Fact : State studies by Massachusetts and Connecticut have shown that single payer universal health care would save 1 to 2 Billion dollars per year from the total medical expenses in those states despite covering all the uninsured and increasing health care benefits
Fact : The costs of health care in Canada as a % of GNP, which were identical to the United States when Canada changed to a single payer, have increased at a rate much lower than the United States.
@jnycnuk You're fallaciously comparing countries without absolutely nothing in common in terms of composition. I ask you to find me one country in the entire developed/undeveloped world with as low health standards and stats as the US.
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netttels 1 week ago
@netttels Fucking A!
MrPsolara 6 days ago
Sorry, doctors are the real problem with the medical system now. Deflecting the blame does not change the fact that doctors are denying procedures based on their own prejudices and beliefs. So no, 45 thousand doctors are most certainly wrong. They just want to be sure they can get more money, that's it.
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jsgdk 3 weeks ago
I believe in prevention first and cure second.
SuperHealthyHealth 3 weeks ago
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"America's health care system is second only to Japan, Canada, Sweden, Great Britain, well...all of Europe. But you can thank your lucky stars we don't live in Paraguay!"
Charlie12241 1 month ago
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People need the same health care, as the people thay elect ? price rate and rules.....
stringlov 1 month ago 10
We complain plenty here.
but leeches on our healtcare.. to make profit instead of making people healthy.. NO THANKS!
jsgdk 1 month ago
the trouble is to choose where you want taxe money to go,offshorte or to build from inside
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dagearjammer 2 months ago
@dagearjammer 20 years ago it would have been covered. but the republicans in congress over the years of regulated this program to death. They want it to not work anymore. They would rather see health care stay a gigantically profit driven industry. How on earth the American people allow this to go on is beyond all comprehension.
Ask your self, why shouldn't health care be non profit. when you find that answer look to congress to see who is trying to stop that from happening
Clownwhiper 1 month ago
As soon as you remove profit from healthcare financing you get the same product for about 1/3 of the price.. get rid of these leeches.. theyre not helping anyone.
jsgdk 2 months ago
@jsgdk Well said.
I have been saying this for 30 ears. Why do people find it acceptable for a company to make money gambling on your health? Why is this not a Not For Profit sector?????? WHY
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@wtfjaftw Well, if 45000 doctors can be wrong take it for a certainty your mother, aunt and grandma can be
davijeph 2 months ago
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davijeph 2 months ago
@wtfjaftw Your wrong.
davijeph 2 months ago
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"America's health care system is second only to Japan, Canada, Sweden, Great Britain, well...all of Europe. But you can thank your lucky stars we don't live in Paraguay!"
Charlie12241 2 months ago
How about shuting down HMOs?
Salvysahagun 2 months ago
What really makes me sick is that people that are against Free Health care all have a full blown health cover by the government, let's see what kind of speech they would have if they didn't have that privilege and if they didn't have the millions that pharmaceutical companies gave them. Fucking corporate sale out whores.
alexandreleverrier 2 months ago
I wish we had a tandem system or completely private or completely government run. I'm one of those people that had "hope" that something would change for the better. Instead I have to buy insurance that I still can't afford.
submetropolis 3 months ago
nothing has changed but now im forced to buy it. gotta love reform
submetropolis 3 months ago
@submetropolis from a neutral standpoint on your politics but quite far to the left in my own country, it appears that the US has missed the mark by a long shot, in my country there is a tandem system (public-private) where everyone pays for the public system through income taxes from there that pays for medicine, trips to the doctor, trips to hospital, operations and so on.
irishgodfatherchris 3 months ago
@submetropolis and then we get to the private system of which there are many providers for those who want to pay a little more in order to bypass waiting lists on elective surgeries (boob jobs, nose jobs and the like) but everything else is the domain of the public system.
irishgodfatherchris 3 months ago
@irishgodfatherchris But does the income taxes cost more? Since it provides all those benefits. How do you think it helps with the money issue people are having? (I want your opinion).
zoombiedeadgirl 3 months ago
@zoombiedeadgirl they are notionally higher than the US but seeing as how it means that if we get sick we'll be treated at technically no cost we don't mind, Australians as a whole don't overly mind being a little cash-strapped as long as we know that if we get ill we will be taken care of we don't mind, even the Opposition Leader (who is very right-wing) wouldn't dream of getting rid of it, he may re-design it but it would still be very similar to what we have now.
irishgodfatherchris 3 months ago
@zoombiedeadgirl the only reason people in the US particularly on the right don't want a public system is because it will hurt their business interests not because its a bad system, its not perfect by any means but you will never get a perfect system but they don;t like it because it will cost them money from their corporate donors who are quite often insurance companies who as you know is only around to make money not to look after people which is a reason why I support a public system.
irishgodfatherchris 3 months ago
Dumb...I think people really to think is when the last time they had a salad!
Trentland86 3 months ago
luv this video :D
dignerds 4 months ago
If the doctors believe reform is such a great idea, why don't they LOWER their friggin prices so people can afford it? They want reform but aren't willing to lose a single penny doing it.
onepoundpull 4 months ago
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@onepoundpull It's more complicated than that.
moearly 4 months ago
I am embarrassed that healthcare reform has been turned into a political issue. If the majority of health professionals believe reform is a good idea, it probably is! These are experts working in this field. How can people be against/for this bill soley because their political party is against/for it? I am not a democrat, but I would never cast a vote that spits in the face of professionals who disagree with my political opinion. I cannot believe the ignorance of people.
jeremmed 4 months ago
PROPAGANDA FROM THE WHITE HOUSE.
GVKIMAGES 5 months ago
I like how they couldn't get actors to sound as insincere as the docters they we're trying ti mimic, so they just used PR people, such wonderful irony. of course as they point out they lay great store in the relationship between the patient and the health provider who is going to decide whether you get one of these snake oil salesman or a mortician.
Billinstoke 7 months ago
@Billinstoke Please look up "Ted Epperly, MD, FAAFP, Program Director and Chief Executive Officer. The Family Medicine Residency of Idaho" It must be a strange group Doctors that goes to the trouble of putting forward a "YOUTUBE” video that according to advocates of private health insurance puts their professional and financial standing on a less attractive standing. Or maybe these people look at them selves as Doctors first business people second?
davijeph 7 months ago
great information
SullivanCom214 7 months ago
Google *ALEC Exposed* by John Nichols at The Nation.
ALEC Sabotaged HC reform/Single Payer efforts. They crafted the Freedom of Choice in Health Care Act, which, despite its Orwellian name, was written to DENY the citizens of any state that passed it the freedom to set up a Single Payer system. It played a key role in a well-coordinated effort to keep the most progressive proposals from being enacted at the state or federal level while blocking provisions imposing oversight of ins companies.
TheeUnidentified 7 months ago
If I see one more stethescope on these speakers, I am going to vomit!
pseudobliss 8 months ago
@pseudobliss GOOD ONE
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newperpblog 8 months ago
WOW!! EUGENICS PROPAGANDA AT IT'S BEST! LOVE THE SCRIPTED DOCTORS(ACTORS)STATEMENTS! THE MINUTE THE GOVERN(CONTROL)MENT(MIND) GETS INVOLVED WE ARE ALL FUCKED!!
zetokiva 8 months ago
@zetokiva Oh Shove it!
SapphireMist888 8 months ago
@SapphireMist888 WOW great comeback! NOT!! Anything intelligent to say? Shove it! The truth hurts doesn't it?
zetokiva 8 months ago
@zetokiva The truth is this video is obviously 100% genuine the contributors are honest enough too supply the speakers names, qualifications and general operating area. It is also obvious they are speaking from the heart and brain both organs given your statement you obviously lack. UHC's work and work well given the US system costs 16% of GDP while the average UHC cost on average 8% of GDP and they still manage to supply higher rated health care than the US.
davijeph 8 months ago
@zetokiva HOLY FUCK IT'S JUST LIKE 9/11!!! -.-
piepiepie900 6 months ago
Healthcare reform:depopulation, only healthy people wanted-as slaves to NWO.See Rep John Haller on youtube and then go to Homeland security and safety and READ all pages esp on ZOMBIE APOCOLYPSE or infec attack. PRAY !!!MARANATHANA
pineappleseer 8 months ago
Sounds all well meaning, But, Anything short of Socialised Healthcare is load of crap, The Doctors are admitting to their failures, But they are the ones who have been doing that for years, No credit is really going to be given for knocking that shit on the head, NHS is the best for society all round, Doctors are paid, Patients are treated, It`s people making obscene profit off the ill and injured, That is what`s truly sick
xmoroseguyx 8 months ago
Modern health care isn't caring and it isn't about good health.
lumeriam 9 months ago 3
@lumeriam The Real Issue is: Why are we increasingly manufacturing Sick people? --- and this when the other healthy industries like steel mills went overseas? They only want to manufacture sick people, then "heal them" for life, lol, a revolving profit door. The government will try to help more, but always have an "unfortunate deficit" at least on paper, lol. "health promotion, lol"
westchesterny 4 months ago
And now the Republicans have shown their true colors with the Paul Ryan plan that would DESTROY Medicare and replace it with a fucking VOUCHER system.
And if a senior or someone with health problems can't find a private insurance co. to provide insurance for the price of the voucher - too bad senior, you're on your own.
Yet that same Ryan plan tries to give more tax breaks for the rich.
Republicans, led by the rich, followed by the stupid.
megarational 9 months ago
Sweden have one of the highest taxes in the world, but we are allright, the Swedish citizens pay much money in tax but that is a good thing, why?, because we know that if we get hurt the population helps us finance it, and if another person get hurt I will help him finance his recover, its a win win situation, I know a person that got his hand fixed from a chrushing accident, by the hospital he was charged 250 Swedish crowns that is about 24 dollars, the rest the Swedish citizens helped to pay.
1Gabrielsson1 9 months ago
Great video. These doctors are spot on. Americans wake up. Dont fall for the negative adds. Although this bill is not perfect it is a step in the right direction. Obama will get it right! Republicans you have no clue. People who are against this bill are uneducated and affraid of change.
cdsant01 9 months ago
450,000 Doctors can be wrong
nottinmatterz2day 9 months ago
Oscar-winning actor Michael Douglas gave something back to the Montreal hospital that first detected his throat cancer — a disease several American doctors had missed.
Only weeks earlier, Douglas had sought treatment from several doctors elsewhere for his constantly sore throat, but they had all given him a clean bill of health.
jnycnuk 10 months ago
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stringlov 10 months ago 42
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@stringlov the people need a reliable form of transportation!
nottinmatterz2day 9 months ago
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@stringlov I don't think so. I think everyone has the right to choose their own plan on the open market
nottinmatterz2day 9 months ago
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@stringlov should have the same opportunity mhm
nottinmatterz2day 9 months ago
@nottinmatterz2day The critical flaw in that bubble is that you only get to choose what you can afford. If you are just meeting the rent and child care expenses every month, or if you are older or have health issues - your system results in NO choice.
megarational 9 months ago
@megarational yup. thats the least problems compared to the other options i think.
other option steal from everyone, make them be able to afford less, so that you can fund the most poor, who now get free healthcare that is lower quality based on just the fact they're not paying for it. theres less incentive to get the best for your money and for the doctors and hospitals to give you the best for your money if its guaranteed by the government
nottinmatterz2day 9 months ago
fuck commies
asst9999 10 months ago
Take a look at our socialist health care system in Europe and see for yourselves. Capitalism in America = some people can afford the best health care in the world, and some can´t. Socialism in Europe = nobody, not even the middle class can afford a good health care, because THERE ISN´T ANY !!! Socialism in the system means there are plenty of cheap (paid for through higher taxes) medications for everybody (flu, cold), but there aren´t enough expensive medications for serious illnesses.
stretavkaBB 10 months ago
health care reform should start with the big pharma companies who would hate to "cure" anything in fear that the cure would stop profits. From meds only helping symptoms, and all the side effects they put into drugs, to keep you sick so you go and by drugs for those symptoms. is this not a screwed up system or what. the more people sick the more profit ..and yes there are people that evil wake up. Its all good business to them. what they pay in fines would pull usa out of deficit.
Loneace1969 10 months ago
lets check out big pharma and their ability to mark up medications by 450,000%and their idea that medical marijuana would take profits out of their purses. those greedy sons of bitches should be hung with the fda,and the WHO.check out video by dr gary null on autism he give peer review facts in a tribunal in new york state about pharma mark up its sickening.
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I wonder if Dick Cheney would have gotten all of his heart surgeries if he was a private citizen? With his pre-existing condition he would have been DENIED! But nope my tax dollars pay for HIS health care and ALL the health care for ALL the politicians, but we the people suffer while they sit and laugh at us. We are the victims of greed. Think about that the next time you get a huge bill from your ins. company. Stop the Republicans from repealing the new health care bill.
NowThePeople 10 months ago
@NowThePeople Obamacare virtually guarantees HC costs and premiums will rise because all it does is spread liability and find novel ways of redistributing the burden of an insanely unhealthy country among the young, healthy, and responsible. Even the NY Times admitted that for most healthy families, premiums will increase significantly. You're criticizing the industry... on the grounds of a bill that radically entrenches their product through mandates and buying restrictions.
thereinliestherib 10 months ago
@thereinliestherib 450,000 Doctors Can't Be Wrong. You are an idiot! That's right. An idiot! But then again, I enjoy the benefits of the British system everyday. So I cannot help but feel pity and to be a bit condescending towards my American friends in the colonies. America is no longer the shining beacon of the world-sort your shit out.
TruthApple88 10 months ago
@TruthApple88 Except that I've provided facts to support my analysis. And what do you have? Petty, misdirected angst. Let me know how that works out for you in life! Or don't, because spreading HC liability only encourages the lack of personal health responsibility that is the core reason for HC cost increases, and thus socialization yields a self-perpetuating cycle.
thereinliestherib 10 months ago
@thereinliestherib 450,000 Doctors Can't Be Wrong. We here in the United Kingdom do not put a price tag on the well being of the public. True, costs have gone up in recent years, but that is due to the increasing coverage of our healthcare system to treat more illnesses an the recent economic downturn. You cannot argue with this; these are men and women who have spent many years in study and practice of medicine. Yet you disregard their analysis!
TruthApple88 10 months ago
@TruthApple88 Their "analysis" doesn't conform with the facts and is ethically compromised by their overriding economic interest in increasing health costs, liabilities, and required care. I lost respect for the hippocratic trade last time I hurt my knee, and instead of counseling me on how to help heal it effectively, my doc just raised his brow and asked if I wanted some painkillers--when painkillers slow the healing process.
thereinliestherib 10 months ago
@thereinliestherib So,you think that the healthcare system in America should not be reformed? In all honesty if your doctors are treating you like that then why are you railing against reform? To be fair to the Americans your country is quite large and populous, so it is understandable that you do not want a serious hike in taxes for Medicare Medicaid. I only have one question here. What do you think should be done to healthcare in America or if anything should be done?
TruthApple88 10 months ago
@TruthApple88 Did I say I don't support reform? Of course I do--which is contrary to the political and industrial interests who control the outcome of any such "reform," which is why Obamacare simply spreads liability for an unhealthy, irresponsible population, rather than forcing individuals to take responsibility for themselves. Nice straw man! What would I do? Easy: fat taxes. Want a burger? Sure, but it comes with the necessary fast food 50 cent surcharge. No more free rides!!!
thereinliestherib 10 months ago
@thereinliestherib I get you now. You make sense, I am sorry for what i said earlier-that was ignorance on my part. I did not know that ALL Americans could recieve free healthcare. From what you wrote there I can guess that what uninsured people recieve FREE under the current,private system isn't too great in quality but still costs. I think I can agree-anyone who dosen't have health coverage dosen't get treatment unlike what I now know is going on under the current American system. Makes sense!
TruthApple88 10 months ago
@TruthApple88 .....people should just STOP paying for healthcare insurance. Pay cash at the doctor and you'll get a discount. Negotiate any bills and offer to pay a percentage. It will save you an enormous amout of money. If you have a catostophic illness....you're gonna go bankrupt whether you have health insurance or not.
Andreas748 9 months ago
@Andreas748 Are you dreaming in technicolor? Doctors can't even handle their existing workload. Why on earth would they accept less money to treat a patient? It makes no sense whatsoever.
megarational 9 months ago
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davijeph 9 months ago
@davijeph The system with the greatest administrative efficiency and cost effectiveness is the single payer system, with cost savings estimated at 7% of your GDP, yet you and others fell for the GOP and insurance industry propaganda and blew your chance to get it.
The reason for the high administrative work for Doctors is that they have to deal with a myriad of complex different private insurance plans and fight those same companies just to get claims paid.
Wake up!
megarational 9 months ago
@migrational I think you must have misunderstood what I wrote . Being a Brit and living with our NHS single payer system I like most Brits rich or poor would never get rid of the NHS. I doubt any Brit since 1947 as gone bust because of health cost. Will always be able to pay prescription costs.We do not understand the idea of co-pay, deductibles, pre-existing conditions. Never receive direct billing for heath care (think what that saves in administration cost) . Regards
davijeph 9 months ago 5
@davijeph OK. thanks.
megarational 9 months ago
@davijeph sadly not a lot of people know this.
fireyhope86 9 months ago
@davijeph
Actually, 450,000 doctors can be wrong. They were too busy studying medicine to learn anything about economics.
And davijeph, no Brit has gone bust because of healthcare cost, but your country has gone bust, largely due to enormous government spending programs... Not to mention the thousands who get sicker on waitlists. We in American do not understand the idea of being diagnosed with cancer, and waiting months or years for surgery or treatment.
nptne1572 2 months ago
@nptne1572 Well if you under stand economics you will understand the UK is not "bust" but just like the US because of collective stupidness of the labour unions. the greed, incompetence and corruption of those responsible for running private production industries including the financial industry not to mention the greed and short sightedness of investors finds itself with a mountain (but not unclimbable ) of both public and private debt.
davijeph 2 months ago
@nptne1572 Yes, we have spent to much on the many and varied Government programmes I would argue that over the years to many of our welfare programmes have been been misused unemployment and family support for example. However the NHS which costs only 8% of our GDP against 16% for GDP for the US yet gets a far better overall rating for health care than the US system. Please don't start with your Ayn Rand nonsense.
davijeph 2 months ago
@nptne1572 amen, and also how to code illnesses for hmo's according to government issues and paper work. to make medicine affordable we need more doctors period , nothing else matters but compeitition in the marketplace.
circusboy90210 2 months ago
@davijeph Wow thank you... I remember when i was a young adult the republicans were pushing a thing called an HMO that no one understood or heard of. I had one of the very first HMO's it was called health alliance plan. It had something called a co-pay. When i told my friends that I had to bay $10.00 every time I saw a doctor they say "But I thought you had insurance" The same thing with prescriptions. They said,why do you have to pay for part of your prescription I thought you were covered
Clownwhiper 1 month ago
@Clownwhiper Prescription are £7.40 per item you can buy a 3 month certificate for £29.10 this saves you money if you need four or more items in 3 months period or a 12 month certificate is £104.00 and saves money if 15 or more items are needed in 12 months. So in theory you would have to pay a maximum of around $160 per year no matter how many drugs you take. Drugs issued in Hospitals are free. There are many categories where they are free over 60s, children under16, students at Uni examples
davijeph 1 month ago
@Clownwhiper My own example how it work. 40 years ago my hearing was damaged in an accident. After several operations I was supplied with a hearing aid FOC by the NHS some years ago my hearing further deteriorated and they fitted me with a BAHA bone-inductor aid complete with free life long maintenance including new aid every 3 years + batteries and check up. Direct cost to me? Zero. I think buying a BAHA in the US would beyond my means. The NHS does have its problems but on the whole is OK.
davijeph 1 month ago
@davijeph And by the way, if a person is barely meeting the expenses for rent and raising a family, what money is left over to "bargain" for a better price from a doctor?
So you get your bypass price reduced from, say, $500,000 down to $350,000, just how does that help you if you don't have insurance to cover it?????
Don't people like you even THINK!
megarational 9 months ago
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The US health care system is one of the worst in the world and has been compromised by the US Administration, the Health Insurance and Management Offices, and American Medical Assoc.
Can., Britain, France,Cuba, Australia have hassle free, debt-free, comprehensive, universal health plans where every citizen receives health care with no added costs
Chidanandaji 11 months ago 2
Most of you people on here are missing the point. Healthcare needs to be made affordable to ALL people, plain and simple. If 3rd world countries have a better healthcare coverage for their people, there is something seriously wrong with that picture!
pitt15220 11 months ago
Just as luck would have it a new academic report is just out which should make interesting reading for those who are interested in the comments between thereinliestherib and jnycnuk a summary of this report can be seen on BBC NEWS tapping in Health and finding life expectancy on the rise 'despite obesity epidemic'. I pass no comment apart from it makes interesting reading.
davijeph 11 months ago
DOCTORS DO NOT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT ANYBODY BUT THEMSELFS THEY JUST WANT TO GET LAID AND HAVE ALOT OF MONEY BECAUSE THEY RUIND MY LIFE FUCK YOU FUCK HUMANITY THEY ALL DESEREVE TO FUCKING BURN
sk8erdude180x2 11 months ago
@sk8erdude180x2 Very, Very ignorant statement.
deadwiredrummer 8 months ago
@deadwiredrummer if you only knew
sk8erdude180x2 8 months ago
a sedentary lifestyle which is problematic (moreso among the poor) is a direct result of lack of safe recreation facilities, cutbacks in schools for physical education and sports, inadequate parental contact because of the need to work longer hours to pay for the basics, mental and physical health issues and gangs. it is easy to blame the victim but the solution is far more important.
jnycnuk 1 year ago
@jnycnuk So forks cause obesity? Sorry guy, but you're just delegating blame for an individual problem. Healthy foods are easier, cheaper, and more abundant than junk, and physical exercise is a biological imperative for humans. The fact that others can't meet such minimum requirements is hardly an example of external factors when there are healthy poor people (myself) and when modern obesity rates have no historical precedent. What, did everyone's genes change in the last two decades???
thereinliestherib 1 year ago
@thereinliestherib forks cause obesity - wtf? healthy alternatives are cheaper?? in what world are you living. junk food is cheap and easy as the nearest big M. supermarket healthy options are also more expensive. and science has proven that people of differing racial backgrounds metabolize food differently. you have a one track mind pilgrim - all health issues are somehow a product of being overweight or being a smoker. open your eyes to bigger picture.
jnycnuk 1 year ago
@jnycnuk dont forget sitting on their ass watching american idol and almost 36 hours of television a week. Cut the cord and then open the rec. facilities.
newmaro427ZL1 10 months ago
The overhead cost of operating the United States health-care system is more than three times that of running Canada's on a per capita basis, and the gap is getting bigger, according to a study published today in the New England Journal of Medicine.
Savings gleaned from a national health insurance system like Canada's would be enough to provide medical insurance for the 41 million Americans who now lack coverage, the researchers said.
jnycnuk 1 year ago
@jnycnuk I love how the economic studies originate with the industry who profits from their manipulation. I don't refute that administrative problems exist in the American system, which they clearly do, but these costs pale in comparison to the disproportional costs of unhealthy behavior. They say the mandate is justified by equity, but in reality the costs of obesity alone (350b/yr) is enough to cover the uninsured (89b/yr) four times over. So... you believe in wholesale bullshit.
thereinliestherib 1 year ago
@thereinliestherib the primary difference between your opinion and my opinion is that your concern is for you personally and my concern is for americans as a whole. what is really sad is that i am not even an american!
jnycnuk 1 year ago
@jnycnuk Wait a minute. So a health care system that entrenches the poor health that causes its disproportional, unprecedented costs serves the whole? My god, I believe you are delusional sir--I hope you're insured!
thereinliestherib 1 year ago
@thereinliestherib nope, wrong again. you just don't get it. i will say it once again. health care for all gives a nation a fair shake for all. rich or poor, all should be allowed to be healthy. preventative health care offers EVERYONE the opportunity to live longer and without complications and care for those who are ill will be able to get better without falling into poverty. you still haven't figured out that i am canadian and i do have health care until the end of my days.
jnycnuk 1 year ago
@thereinliestherib
The overhead cost of operating the United States health-care system is more than three times that of running Canada's on a per capita basis, and the gap is getting bigger, according to a study published today in the New England Journal of Medicine.
Savings gleaned from a national health insurance system like Canada's would be enough to provide medical insurance for the 41 million Americans who now lack coverage, the researchers said.
jnycnuk 1 year ago
@jnycnuk Sounds like another ten pounds of bullshit in a five pound bag. I don't believe democratic trial lawyers who claim expanding liabilities is for "victim's rights" and not their own salaries, nor do I believe half the economically-illiterate claims that come out of the health care field. Mainly because there's no way to extricate industry interests from actual doctor's claims anymore, not since the last time I got a booboo and my doctor asked if I wanted some brand of oxycontin.
thereinliestherib 1 year ago
@thereinliestherib i have no idea what you are talking about! - trial lawyers- victims rights- economically illiterate claims wtf.
jnycnuk 1 year ago
@jnycnuk You're extrapolating from data that was produced by the industry who profits from the further socialization of health care. It's like hey, let's go ahead and listen to what the fast food industry has to say about dietary standards and then base FDA policy off of it. You trust the data of ethically compromised sources. Medical research bodies (industry funded, btw) have no vested interest in reducing health costs; it's contrary to their self interest. Psshhh...
thereinliestherib 1 year ago
@thereinliestherib i think you are far to negative and suspicious. the bottom line is that all people need proper health care - not just those that can afford it.
jnycnuk 1 year ago
@jnycnuk 70% obesity/overweight in the US isn't suspicious? It isn't suspicious that an industry-funded political party (dems, go figure!) comes up with a bill that, instead of reducing costs, saddles the vulnerable with the debt of an unhealthy population? Boy I can't wait to see what this country looks like in twenty years if prevailing trends continue.
thereinliestherib 1 year ago
jnycnuk 1 year ago
@jnycnuk Total load of crap. Genetic causes for weight problems account for less than 5% of the overall population, which hardly matches up with the 70% who are obese or overweight. What, did everybody's genes change in the last few decades? I think not. And the fact that there are those who are exposed to the same environmental conditions and remain healthy obliterates the "conditioning" argument.
thereinliestherib 1 year ago
@thereinliestherib Some hormone problems may cause overweight and obesity, such as underactive thyroid (hypothyroidism), Cushing's syndrome, and polycystic ovarian syndrome (PCOS).
Underactive thyroid is a condition in which the thyroid gland doesn't make enough thyroid hormone. Lack of thyroid hormone will slow down your metabolism and cause weight gain. You'll also feel tired and weak.
jnycnuk 1 year ago
@jnycnuk You're ignoring my point. Congenital causes for weight problems account for less than 5% of the overall population, which hardly explains a 70% obesity/overweight rate. In fact, many of the secondary "causes" for weight problems you've cited are initially caused by poor weight and unhealthy habits in the first place (certain forms of diabetes, especially in children, are the best example).
thereinliestherib 11 months ago
@thereinliestherib while it is difficult to put every person with a weight problem in a box, the bottom line is that nobody wants to be overweight. there are many reasons why but to just say that they are the problem is just wrong.
jnycnuk 11 months ago
@jnycnuk Actually its pretty easy. 70% obese/overweight, minus 5% who may have actual congenital causes, and you've got 65% of the population who is overweight/obese and unhealthy because of their own choices and laziness. The least healthy 5% of the country consumes about 70% of HC costs. What's wrong is the disproportional cost burden these people impose on the healthy and responsible who share their same insurance pools, actually.
thereinliestherib 11 months ago
@thereinliestherib you just don't get it. you still think that people have made the choice to be obese. people don't just wake up one day and say, "hey, i think i want to be fat." there are so many reasons that make a person susceptible to becoming overweight. it's not a case of people that have a weight problem are "bad" as you suggest.
jnycnuk 11 months ago
@jnycnuk BS! The avg. American watches 4 hours of tv a day, and yet you still blame their condition on environmental factors? Other countries have better stats even with fewer accomodations to be healthy. You've offered no evidence in support of the blatantly fallacious view that people don't make themselves fat and unhealthy overall. But I guess I'm just hallucinating every time I go out and see my peers shoveling down unhealthy junk, and then making proud quips about it.
thereinliestherib 11 months ago
@thereinliestherib "It's just a lot more difficult to eat well when you don't have very much money," said Marilyn Townsend, professor of nutrition at the University of California-Davis. "Your major concern is not the nutrients in your food but having enough so your kids are full."Adherence to the popular Atkins diet costs about $15 per person per day, according to a USA Today analysis of the high-protein diet. Low-income families spend closer to $25 per person per week on food.
jnycnuk 11 months ago
@jnycnuk Absolute bullshit. Healthy foods are cheaper and more abundant than junk. One economic reason we consume so much unhealthy food is because of corn/potato subsidies and other programs that inflate demand for American agroproducts. I work in food service, so I know what people eat and how product flows. The final choice lies with the consumer, so your deductive logic hardly explains why many are exposed to equal circumstances but remain healthy. News flash! It's because of CHOICE!
thereinliestherib 11 months ago
jnycnuk 1 year ago
@jnycnuk Once again, how much of the population can claim genetic causes for their weight? 70%? Really?? I never really cared for how most people abuse their own bodies, but now that they want me to pay for their inevitable health problems, the game changes. I actually do wish people were healthier because they're seriously impairing their life's potential with such a stupid choice. I'm young, so I'd also definitely prefer if every member of the opposite sex wasn't fat/low self-esteem.
thereinliestherib 1 year ago
@thereinliestherib Certain medicines may cause you to gain weight. These medicines include some corticosteroids, antidepressants, and seizure medicines.
These medicines can slow the rate at which your body burns calories, increase your appetite, or cause your body to hold on to extra water. All of these factors can lead to weight gain.
jnycnuk 1 year ago
@jnycnuk You're clearly not listening, and willfully so. Less than 5% of the overall population has congenitally caused obesity/weight problems. I'm sure you're just putting up numbers to delegate blame for a national obesity epidemic in typical scapegoating-fashion, and then you'll go and eat a bunch of unhealthy crap for every meal.
thereinliestherib 11 months ago
@thereinliestherib i am reading what you say but i don't agree with what you say. why don't you go after the fast food industry? there is more awareness about the ill effects of "fast food" than ever before. why don't you go after the advertising industry? americans are surrounded by ads from food companies. Often children are the targets of advertising for high-calorie, high-fat snacks and sugary drinks. The goal of these ads is to sway people to buy these high-calorie foods.
jnycnuk 11 months ago
@jnycnuk Actually I fully support a measure that would create taxes on the goods and services (restaurant/fastfood, cigarettes, etc) that cause poor health. That's how taxes for goods are supposed to be designed, in order both to fund and to curtail the need for funds by reducing costs. That's how they're supposed to work, instead of insurance mandates imposed on the young, healthy, and responsible simply to benefit democrats' industry contributors.
thereinliestherib 11 months ago
@thereinliestherib hmmm.... more taxes eh. you sound more like the democrats that you dislike so much. you had better not let your republican friends hear you talk like that or you'll be tarred and feathered.
jnycnuk 11 months ago
@jnycnuk I don't dislike democrats because I disagree with their principles--I dislike democrats because the strongest critique of their hypocrisy arises from those very principles. The binary logic that because I disagree with some policy I'm automatically disposed to one single party is totalitarian logic unbefitting an American. Fair tax policy is that which portions its burden according to who consumes the most of a given resource; exactly the opposite of how US HC functions.
thereinliestherib 11 months ago
@thereinliestherib well i think i have wasted enough time here. you believe that people with a weight problem or those that can't quit smoking or universal health care is bad. i believe you are terribly misguided.
jnycnuk 11 months ago
@jnycnuk Oh really? You' haven't counterargued any of my data. Enjoy leeching off the younger generation to support your poor choices, when they won't even receive those same benefits in life. Good riddance to baby boomer ideology!
thereinliestherib 11 months ago
@thereinliestherib oops i forgot to include how you dislike baby boomers as well you sorry little monkey!
jnycnuk 11 months ago
@jnycnuk Baby boomers can suck it, and good riddance to their petty, binary worldview. They've all climbed the ladder, only to kick it out from under their own children. That is, what few of them remain after all the drugs and divorce have taken their toll.
Your children won't afford college. They will be underinsured. They will never retire, and whatever retirement savings they set aside will grow only as fast as inflation.
thereinliestherib 11 months ago
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@thereinliestherib wrong again. my children earn so much more than i ever did that they will retire earlier than i. you are so misguided.
jnycnuk 11 months ago 3
The reason the US system costs more is not high rates of obesity or malpractice costs but because they are having too pay for a $multibillion insurance industry that supplies not so much as an aspirin to the patient. The US in not that different in make up than many other countries in terms of social mix, economic and cultural development even in things like obesity , drinking and smoking levels. Although they do seem to like shooting and killing each other with automobiles than most others.
davijeph 1 year ago
@davijeph The US is not that different from other countries in terms of health stats? Sources please. The industry will benefit greatly because of Obamacare, because it gives them monopolistic leverage over both consumers and the political regulatory system that was originally designed to constrain the industry itself. You're absolutely and willfully ignorant of the facts.
thereinliestherib 1 year ago
@thereinliestherib According to figures on the UK an estimated 71% per cent of adults are overweight or obese not far behind your US rate at 74%. I suggest you understand your own system better and try to understand why it is in crisis by looking up “the U.S. Healthcare system in international Context”
davijeph 1 year ago
@davijeph Nope. UK obesity is only 25%, according to recent figures, whereas in the US its around 34%, and certainly higher than last polled. In the US, that's a difference of about 27,000,000 people with an extreme, self-induced medical condition, and these are the people who contribute the greatest disproportion of health costs to the system as a whole. Glad to know I'm paying for the bypasses of people who won't exercise any more than lifting a fork, with these tuition bills and all.
thereinliestherib 1 year ago
@thereinliestherib Nope, About 46% of men in England and 32% of women are overweight (a body mass index of 25-30 kg/m2), and an additional 17% of men and 21% of women are obese (a body mass index of more than 30 kg/m2 ). 76% of men and 68% (71% on average) of women aged 55-64 are overweight or obese.
davijeph 1 year ago
@davijeph Math much? That's a mean of 57.5% obese/overweight the entire population. How does that compare to 72% and above in the US? And how does it in any way align with the fact that obesity (an extreme condition, inevitably requiring care) is a much more significant proportion of the whole in the US? Oh yeah, it doesn't, just like I've said over and over. And again, you still have to defend the absurd notion that even UK rates are somehow nominal.
thereinliestherib 1 year ago
@thereinliestherib Nope . I think if you double check your statistics you will find that US rates for overweight and obesity while being higher in the US are not that different overall the various age groups to those in the UK. I do not intend to waste time looking up nation by nation statistics given the point you seem to be trying to make is not a valid one. The reason"Why should healthy poor people (like me)" are not be able to afford health cover is because there are to many fat arses?
davijeph 1 year ago
@davijeph Wait a minute. I clearly show that your stats don't account for an enormous difference by population and proportion, and now you're once again ventruing the claim that the two countries are on par, while also ignoring your subsequent that either set of stats are nominal precursors of efficient health care? But you won't "waste time" defending your claims because you're such a special person that your claims are above reproach? Dumbass of the year, right there! DOTY!
thereinliestherib 1 year ago
@thereinliestherib The reason you cannot afford healthcare is because the system in the US is to expensive for the bulk of it citizens to pay for. Why do the UHC's in every advanced country supply to it's citizens all but 100% health cover including the poorest, fattest, idlest, stupidest not to mention unluckiest at half the cost the US manages? Why, because you not only have to pay in taxes Medicaid and medicare you also have to maintain a multi billion $ insurance industry.
davijeph 1 year ago
@davijeph Horrible point. Both the programs you mentioned are billions of dollars in the hole, and have no way to get out except to by severe cuts--and neither party in this country is foolhardy enough to act on the truth because then they would be liable for being the bad guy.
thereinliestherib 1 year ago
@thereinliestherib Then you are doomed to never afford health care. You hate UHC's which you could afford. You would be delighted if health systems which help the poor collapsed. Because you say you are not fat you think you are immortal (you're not). You do not "clearly show that your stats don't account for an enormous difference by population and proportion" Yet the Academic clearly shows the US pays to much for the health care it gets. Your funeral, go without health cover, your choice.
davijeph 1 year ago
@davijeph I'd support universal health care if it was funded equitably and in a fashion that was representative of personal risk. If it was funded in some way (taxes) through the goods and services that cause poor health--that which has caused our health care crisis--then we have deal. Short of that, I'll never ignore the fact that liberal arguments about health care completely ignore the reality of a nation of scootered, morbidly obese system riders dragging down the national economy.
thereinliestherib 1 year ago
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davijeph 1 year ago
@thereinliestherib Approximate UK Cost of pack of 20 cigarettes £6 tax paid out of that £5. For a pint of 4% beer, 37.4p goes in just excise duty, not counting the VAT of 17.5%. This excise duty rises to 50p for a 5% strength brew. In contrast just 7p is spent on the raw materials such as hops and barley. Please see my other comment at "Health Care Reform" "obamahealthcare"
davijeph 1 year ago
@davijeph I don't have a good basis of reference to compare those numbers, but they do indicate a more efficient allocation of responsibility than the US. In my own region, smokers piss and moan about the slightest regulation as a threat to their personal liberty--all while their own added health costs are borne by non-smokers in their same insurance pools.
thereinliestherib 1 year ago
@thereinliestherib you fail on all levels
FreshPotatoMafia 11 months ago
Why don't these same doctors push for transparency in malpractice, negligence and misconduct on the part of their peers? This information is already collected but it's not legal for the names of the offending doctors to be released to the public. If consumers had this information we could put the bad doctors out of business and reduce the cost of healthcare by reducing malpractice insurance, lawsuits and over treating. You see, 450,000 doctors can be wrong
donrlam 1 year ago
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jazznfusion68 1 year ago
Fact : State studies by Massachusetts and Connecticut have shown that single payer universal health care would save 1 to 2 Billion dollars per year from the total medical expenses in those states despite covering all the uninsured and increasing health care benefits
Fact : The costs of health care in Canada as a % of GNP, which were identical to the United States when Canada changed to a single payer, have increased at a rate much lower than the United States.
jnycnuk 1 year ago
@jnycnuk You're fallaciously comparing countries without absolutely nothing in common in terms of composition. I ask you to find me one country in the entire developed/undeveloped world with as low health standards and stats as the US.
thereinliestherib 1 year ago