This documentary has moved me. I am a 19 year old male and I have supported abortion through the predicaments between rape, a condom breaking, etc. But watching this has changed my mind about it COMPLETELY! This is literally murder. It's gruesome and it is wrong!
I have always been Pro-Choice. I myself have NEVER had an abortion, and do have 2 children. I always felt like it was every woman's right to have an abortion if they wanted. I NO LONGER FEEL THAT WAY. I am glad that the Dr says that the women are victim's as well.... Because I myself, and I am sure many other woman have no idea what abortion REALLY is. I DID think that they were just cells, that did not feel anything. I agree that this video should be shown prior to ALL abortions. Poor babies.
@FrigidSnow No. A fetus, Never EVER has done a thing wrong. A mother should have enough absolute love for her child, an actual Human being made from her, by her, that she should absolutely want her INNOCENT child to have the opprotunity for a life before her. A fetus could NEVER be a murderer. A murderer knowingly commits the act of murder on purpose. Don't even try to say that because you are, in every single way WRONG.
@5Mariner Science tells you that abortion is, when performed safely in places where it is LEGAL, a low-risk procedure that has little to no lasting effects on the patient in question physically or mentally-- unlike a full-term pregnancy, which forever changes a woman's body and can cause serious mental issues. So I hope by "pro-life" you mean pro-the mother's-life.
@Kitsune How about not gettting pregnant n the first place. We had condom for teh man and pills for the woman. There's really no excuse for a pregnancy to occur for those 0.000001% of times the condom/pill combo does not work
@harleykman Because birth control is NOT foolproof, nor is it available for every single person in the United State-- especially the pill. Restrictions due to area, religion, and doctors holding their religion above their own jobs apply in this situation.
@Kitsune, another poor excuse! The Pill is 99% foolproof as PP themselves claim! Doctors cannot legally prescribe or abstain based on their religion! Even so, then go to a pro-abortion doctor to get your birth control. PP offers it free to low cost depending on your income status -by Federal Law as funded by Govt. tax-payers. Either way, abstinence is 100% foolproof! ….just a little FACT you people almost always fail to consider! What other lame excuses can you come up with?
@Kitsune Where do you get your information? Even Planned Parenthood admits abortion's possible emotional consequences, though only barely. Women come forward days, months, years after having an abortion with serious emotional/mental problems. It's true that some mothers go though depression after giving birth, but the mental/emotional complications after abortion can be just as bad or worse. And she might not find anyone to validate her feelings - after all, she just got rid of "unwanted tissue"
@AnnalynAlexis Women also come forward days, months, years after having children with serious emotional/mental problems, what's your point? The chances of this happening are VERY small, especially if the woman was coached through her problems with kindness and understanding that it is HER choice, and up to no one else. If someone feels regret after an abortion, I'm sorry they chose to do something they didn't want-- but it was their choice, and no one else's.
@Kitsune Have you read about the possible physical complications from abortions? Have you found information from places besides PP and other passionately "pro-choice" organizations?
And just because something is legal doesn't mean it's good. Slavery was legal, for heaven's sakes!
"Pro-life" means pro-every-life, mother and child. This is the 21st century! Women rarely die from childbirth in the US. And some do die from abortion, so don't go lauding it as a pro-woman procedure. It's not.
@AnnalynAlexis The physical complications that arise from abortions are significantly less than that of a full-term pregnancy. Do NOT compare slavery to abortion-- ripping people who have been alive and autonomous for years or decades from their home is nothing compared to removing a tiny clump of jelly-like cells. Nobody should ever be forced to carry something in their body they don't want. Children should always come into this world loved and WANTED, not forced as punishment.
@Kitsune Youtube isn't letting me post the links I want to give to you from unbiased sources-- but if you look for elective abortion complications and mortality rates they're easy enough to find so long as you dodge around the Religious and other heavily biased websites, like pregnantpause or foothillsrpc or whatever it is. Point is, elective abortions done in the first trimester are one of the safer procedures out there(and most abortions are in the first trimester).
@Kitsune I barely know where to start, your comment is so messed up. Hold on, this will take a couple of comments, even without me going in depth.
- A tiny clump of jelly-like cells?! Did you even watch this video? The unborn child has definite features from really early on. He/she has a BEATING HEART by three weeks after conception. But don't take my word for it - go ask any scientific source. Perhaps this video, even. The guy used to perform abortions himself. (continued in next comment)
- All I said was the slavery was legal, proving that not everything that is legal is okay.
- The baby is a person, not a thing. Otherwise, I'd agree with you. We're women, hon. Unless we avoid sex, use birth control with zeal, or are infertile, we're bound to get pregnant at some point. And heaven forbid a modern, "liberated" women be abstinent, so that first option is clearly out.
The moment sperm meets egg, a human being is created. It's a natural result of unprotected sex. He/she starts growing. By 10-11 wks in, all organs are present - they just need to grow. The child can grasp something placed in his/her hand. And, at 10-11 weeks, he/she already has FINGERPRINTS. "Clump of jelly-like cells" indeed! REM sleep (aka dreams) happens by 17 weeks and... wait, am I really going to explain all the amazing things that happen in the womb?
- Let me get this straight: "Every child a wanted child, so let's kill the ones we don't want or love." Do you realize how messed up that is? Here's what I say: "Every child a wanted child, so let's learn to want them more." or "Every child a wanted child, so even if you don't want him/her at the moment, know that there's someone out there longing to adopt and love him/her."
Are you saying that unplanned children are punishments?! That a human life, a precious child, the very event that brings joy to billions of people, is a punishment? As if God said "You had sex before marriage, so I'm going to make you carry this thing"?! You make the baby sound like an STD or parasite! As a former fetus and baby, I take great offense at your words. And I take even greater offense on behalf of the unplanned babies who have grown up to become friends
- How can you say it's misinformed and biased if you haven't watched it?
- The only difference between a born baby and a fetus is location.
- You said that a child is not involved in abortion since he/she is not born. In that case, the mother can give it up for adoption as soon as he/she is born and becomes an unwanted "child." Problem solved.
- No one's forcing women to get pregnant. If they must have sex, condoms and pills are available (though I have problems with the pills)
@AnnalynAlexis -This video cannot be considered a scientific source, because it is biased, much like any passionate pro-life or pro-choice website.
-Maybe some people don't WANT children, but want to have sex. You do not have the right to force a woman to feel ashamed of something she cannot stop, but can fix.
-For every one child that gets adopted there are many, many more stuck in the system for life. I personally would have been one of them if I didn't have family to take me.
-Babies put up for adoption by the mother go directly into the hands of a loving, welcoming adoptive family. Not into the system
- Yes, fetuses can differentiate pain from other stimuli quite early on. And there are many babies born prematurely long before 35 weeks (even 22 weeks) - they react to pain, noise, and light just as well as those born at 9 months.
- Babies can't live without help, and are dependent on hosts early on in development. That means they're helpless, not disposable
@Kitsune, there is no such thing as an unbiased worldview, especially on matters of life and death. Don't fool yourself. Your very opinion here is biased. If "some people don't want children" it's simple, don't get pregnant!! Something "she cannot stop"? What could it possibly be that "she cannot stop"? ...intentional unprotected sex, and thus the resulting pregnancy -or- her deliberate determination to abortion murder an innocent human being? Who is forcing women at gunpoint to do either??
@AnnalynAlexis -Regardless of whether or not the fetus has organs by 12 weeks, it can only react to stimulus in the vaguest of senses-- it is not a living, feeling minature person hiding out in your uterus like a hermit. Fetuses cannot even differentiate pain from other stimuli until 35 weeks, so abortion does not hurt the fetus.
-A baby is a literal parasite-- it cannot live without a host.
-Shock, I was also a former fetus. Doesn't mean I have to want to host one.
@Kitsune, if you don't want to "host" one, it's simple, don't get pregnant.
You are a literal parasite as well. which society could do without ...if nothing else, you take up space and air someone else could use. So do us all a favor and off yourself. Thank you.
@AnnalynAlexis -Regarding the "As if God said" bit-- some people actually believe this and use it as their driving argument against abortion, yes.
But it comes to this: if you don't like it, don't do it. Making abortion illegal just makes women significantly more likely to attempt "back-alley" abortions, thus immensely increasing their chances for death in the process.
The stats about "back-alley" abortions and chances of death are greatly exaggerated. Most illegal abortions were done by doctors, and the invent of penicillin greatly reduced deaths. By 1972, the yr before Roe v Wade, deaths were down to 39 per yr. And even with abortion legal women still die from complications. Further, most women wouldn't an abortion if it were illegal anyway. Tragic as these deaths are, the babies' deaths are just as tragic and need to be prevented just as much(cont)
(cont) Since the center of the abortion debate is around whether or not the unborn baby is a human/person and must be protected, and millions of babies are aborted (killed) each year, the inaccurate "back alley" argument is rather incidental. We can save those women in other ways.
Lastly, the "if you don't like it, don't do it" argument works for plastic surgery. But if the unborn baby is human, which it is, then the argument fails. It's like saying "if you don't like murder, don't"
@AnnalynAlexis, well said AnnalynAlexis! Also medical science has established a direct link between breast cancer and abortion. A significant percentage of women who have had abortions also end-up with breast cancer later.
@5Mariner There are no babies involved in abortion, seeing as babies are autonomous and able to live outside the womb without the support of the woman as a host.
SputnikMedia, Yea ...all the more reason to show concern and compassion for the child! Ever heard of these terms or are they foreign to you? In the meantime take SputnikMedia and put "it" in a room and close the door and see how long it lives on it's own! Heck, you can even leave the door open! You couldn't survive on your own either ..twit! You people are mentally deranged ad nausea (*vomits with disgust*).
Someone earlier said those who are prolife are the ones who have never had an unwanted or unplanned pregnancy. This just is not true. I believe some people are pro-life because those unwanted babies became very much wanted throughout the pregnancy and especially after they were born. I never wanted children when I became pregnant. My first pregnancy was very much unplanned and unwanted. I cried when I found out I was pregnant.
@jdbly7384 Now I love children and believe pregnancy is a wonderful, sacred experience and should rarely be treated as anything less, even if it is a teenager or older mother who become pregnant.
@sparky6025 haha seriously? You are saying women should NEVER have sex unless they use birthcontrol(which isn't 99% accurate and not freely available) because they could get pregnant? It's her own fucking body and you have no say in the fucking matter. How do you know it's a innocent human being?! It's a clump of cells that could be a human.
@FrigidSnow I'm not reasonable?! You are forcing a woman to carry out a pregnancy because you think abortion is murder. You value a clump of cells more than an already born woman.Yes you have the privelge to life. You have 'rights' given to you by your goverment, same kind of rights you are denying a woman to life her own life. What a woman does with her own body is no concern of yours.
@FrigidSnow Can't you see you completely disregard a person on basis of a couple of cells?And you find me irrational?It's already a hard choice to do as a woman to take an abortion.You won't ever feel the fear of a woman who's afraid to get pregnant because people like you would simply hunt her down because they value a few cells more than her entire being and future.
@FrigidSnow On a side note: So you think a fetus is an innocent human being? What if a fetus is making a woman so sick that she's dying?If she dies because of her pregnancy and couldn't get an abortion..then you sir, are responsible for her death. and there goes your argument with a fetus being an innocent human being. Then the fetus is a murderer.
@flatback90, Part 1 of 2: …in other words the old reliable secular humanist fence-walking stand-by that there are no absolutes! ...to which I must ask you, “Are you absolutely sure that "morality is a subjective interpretation of the facts of reality..."? My "subjective interpretation of the facts of reality" has led me to determine it's ok to place a 357 bullet in your head ...and so who are you to argue I'm wrong or prevent me? Indeed! So is it or isn’t it? And if it’s not ok, then on...
@FrigidSnow, utter absurd and ludicrous nonsense in the extreme! A “fetus” doesn’t “MAKE” a woman sick intentionally and deliberately with malice, UNLIKE a woman who must deliberately and intentionally with malice abortion murder her child! Your logic is about as bassackwards -not to mention just plain retarded- as it can possibly get! Can I blame you as a murderer for my death from that Flu virus you UNINTENTIONALLY passed on to me?!?
@FrigidSnow, I am doing no such thing! Save your absurd false charges 4 the short bus! One "clump of cells" is just as valuable as the other!! Who are YOU to arbitrarily DECIDE otherwise?? No, it's NOT a "privilege," LIFE is an inalienable RIGHT! Rights come from a MUCH GREATER authority than the Govt. If you are going to rely merely on others to GRANT you whatever RIGHTS they will ALLOW you to have, I'll see you in the slave quarters, concentration camp or ash heap ...have fun!
@FrigidSnow, If a woman doesn't want to grt pregnant she can easily entirely avoid it. What part of this FACT is so simple you are incapable of comprehending it?!? Honestly! ...what could it be guilty of? You are also merely a 'clump' of cells & it's just as debatable whether you're human!. I stand amazed at the extent to which U pro 'choice' - pro deathers will hold on to your circular reasoning and how quickly and easily you all walk right into your own little intellectual corners. Pathetic.
@FrigidSnow Did you even pay attention to the abortion? Because anyone with eyes and ears and a brain can see that that thing in the women's body is more than a small clump of microscopic cells. Its all right there! You're just being what every pro-abortionist is, IGNORANT!!!
@ FrigidSnow … subject to that long list of supposed side-effects of pregnancy you give, and which you equate with ‘torture,’ to avoid any and all of them -due to pregnancy- I recommend simply this: 1) Don’t have SEX; 2) If you cannot control yourself use FREELY available birth control methods that PREVENT CONCEPTION in the FIRST PLACE, thus preventing YOUR need of ‘convenience’ to ABORTION MURDER an innocent human being in the SCEOND PLACE!! It’s quite simple! Once again, you are simply…
@ FrigidSnow You claim the absurdity: “You want to lable abortion murder?So removing a few cells which has not formed into the shape of a human child is as bad a stabbing/shooting a person?” -The deliberate taking of another innocent human life is murder regardless of the means by which it is done and regardless of whatever arbitrary and convenient label you give those means! Your own obfuscation and equivocation has once again annihilated your own argument! If you don’t want to be...
@ FrigidSnow …THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS.” (Preamble to the US Declaration of Independence. Emphasis mine). Please DO YOURSELF AND ESPECIALLY OTHERS A FAVOR and look up the definitions of “unalienable” and “inalienable”!! Who then bestowed this ‘privilege’ or ‘right’ exclusively on you or anyone else, and who then are you to grant ’privileges’ and/or take away those ‘rights’ from anyone else? Fact is, as narcissist as you are, you are no one to do any such thing!
@ FrigidSnow …argument utterly obliterates your own claims! You may believe you merely have a granted-by-someone-else ‘privilege’ to life, or any other rights or privileges, but I believe rights -ESPECIALLY the right to life- is an INALIENABLE RIGHT granted by a power INFINATELY more powerful than you! “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL, THAT THEY ARE ENDOWED BY THEIR CREATOR WITH CERTAIN UNALIENABLE RIGHTS, that among these are LIFE, LIBERTY AND …
@ FrigidSnow … anyone else the “right” to arbitrarily determine who gets granted the ‘privilege’ of life or any other rights or privileges?! Are you some omnipotent God or ‘a god’? Are you the source of all life or now suddenly the owner of all life? Who now gives you the “privilege” to life? Who died and gave you all this absolute power? If it is merely a privilege someone has granted you, then someone can just take that ‘privilege’ away as easily as they gave it to you! Your own...
@ FrigidSnow …fact is so incomprehensible to you? If you actually believe this ludicrous absurdity, then I now likewise in the SAME ARBITRARY MANNER you have used, deem you a ‘non-person’ as well, and thus, as such, I have the ‘privilege‘ to LIKEWISE eliminate you at WILL!! So life is a “PRIVILIGE” eh? And just who gets to determine who gets this ‘privilege’ and who does not… perhaps only you or those like you? You are tripping over your own slippery slope argument!! Who gave you or…
@ FrigidSnow … being from CONCEPTION. A human being ‘fetus’ cannot be ANYTHING ELSE but a human being!! Your ‘fetus’ argument is nothing more than a regurgitation of the same old moral free conscious free non sequitur logical fallacy! Merely calling a human being a ‘fetus’ (merely Latin for “offspring” or ‘little one’) or a ‘non-person’ does not make it non human!! REGARDLESS of what you arbitrarily LABEL IT, it STILL REMAINS A LIVING HUMAN BEING!! What part of this simple common sense...
@ FrigidSnow You claim: “Ofcourse those are pro-choice are already born, a fetus isn't born thus not a person and you must realize it's a PRIVILIGE TO LIFE not the right.” -UNBELIVABLE! The only people who would hypocritically claim a ‘right to life’ is merely a granted ‘privilege’ by others and for others, are those who already have a ‘right to life’ and are already alive! A fetus isn’t a person? Again! Are you serious? What pray-tell then is a fetus? …an eggplant? A fetus is a human...
@5Mariner, sorry 5Mariner, took you wrong ...my bad! Yes I agree totally with you. Some actually think they can change the nature of something by calling it by some other name, but a human being still remains a human being regardless of what label you place on it!
@ FrigidSnow …be and is used as a ‘tool’ against insignificant populations as easily as it is used against significant populations. Drought DOES NOT cause famine. It only causes dry earth and is a well known part of the natural cycle! Famine, just like homelessness and poverty, is caused by RAMPANT GREED, pure and simple!
@ FrigidSnow …THOSE WHO HAVE GREEDY MONOPOLY CONTROL OVER IT- can easily be used to aid in this. You then claim: “….and overpopulation is measured by the needs versus the available resources.” -this can also easily be changed since it is a decision based on nothing more than MERE CHOICE! Resources are only limited out of pure greed and control, not by nature. The greedy monopolization of ‘resources’ has nothing to do with the population. Greedy monopolization of resources can …
@ FrigidSnow … said about most geographic locations where populations NOW THRIVE, such as, for example, the hot desert regions of the southwest US and other locations, or the cold regions of eg., Artic, Antarctic and Alaska. Did you know people -the Yupik and Inuit peoples- have been living and thriving in Siberia, across Alaska and Northern Canada and Greenland for thousands of years? People can easily adapt to live in most any environment and our modern technology -IF FREELY SHARED BY…
@ FrigidSnow … You claim: “The area's you just named that aren't overpopulated are natural protected habitats…” -that can easily be changed since it is a decision based on nothing more than MERE CHOICE! And that is all besides the PLAIN FACT people ALREADY LIVE and THRIVE in these areas I listed! I challenge you to give one example of those locations I listed where no one currently lives or CANNOT LIVE and THRIVE. You also claim: “…or very difficult to live…” -that’s what they…
@ FrigidSnow …feign concern here, once again I invite you and all your ilk to relieve this so-called ‘overpopulation’ problem and eliminate yourselves …as the useless feeders and breeders you believe yourselves to be. In short, put up or shut up. Did you know that a dead by suicide person can’t get pregnant and contribute to the so-called ‘overpopulation’ problem? Your hypocrisy knows no bounds and your argument is ad absurdum in the extreme.
@ FrigidSnow … contain themselves. If anyone is “forcing” anyone to do anything, it’s the abortion murderer forcing the innocent living human being to give up their life by tortured cold-blooded murder. You are just another in a long line of void of morality reprobates attempting to justify abortion murder as an after-the-fact form of birth control with the fallacious myth of ‘overpopulation’ as an excuse. If you are so concerned about this supposed ‘overpopulation’ problem as you...
@ FrigidSnow I’m not forcing a person to do any such thing! STRAW MAN! Outside of forced rape, whether a woman gets pregnant or not is ENTIRELY BY THEIR CONTROL and FREEWILL CHOICE! Torture? Are you serious? If you believe it is ‘torture,’ I can only ask you just what is it that prevents anyone who doesn’t want a child and considers it ‘torture,’ from conceiving a child in the first place? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! It is pure CHOICE! Birth control is freely available for those who cannot…
@poised2pause probably because they give enough of a damn about potentially creating a new life to be more careful than the selfish women out there who use abortion as another form of birth control. In short women who are pro life never have unwanted pregnancies because they care too much to take the risk
@sparky6025 You're forcing a person to carry a child for 9 monts.Do you even know how psycically and mentally hard that is? Even when you don't want it, that would be labeled as torture.That the world isn't overpopulated is as much as a myth as a fetus feeling pain in this video.The area's you just named that aren't overpopulated are natural protected habitats or very difficult to live and overpopulation is measured by the needs versus the available resources.
@FrigidSnow and seriously Nambia and Mongolia? Do you even know how hard it is to live there because of the harsh enviroment (drought e.g.)not to mention the high mountainrange in mongolia and sweden? You really live in a fairytale. Ofcourse those are pro-choice are already born, a fetus isn't born thus not a person and you must realize it's a PRIVILIGE TO LIFE not the right. If my parents wanted to abort me because they weren't ready. Then ok.
@FrigidSnow You want to lable abortion murder?So removing a few cells which has not formed into the shape of a human child is as bad a stabbing/shooting a person?HEre's a list of things a person has to go through during a pregnancy:
@FrigidSnow ormal, frequent or expectable temporary side effects of pregnancy: exhaustion (weariness common from first weeks) - altered appetite and senses of taste and smell- nausea and vomiting (50% of women, first trimester)- heartburn and indigestion- constipation- weight gain- dizziness and light-headedness-bloating, swelling, fluid retention- hemmorhoids- abdominal cramps- yeast infections-congested, bloody nose- acne and mild skin disorders
skin discoloration (chloasma, face and abdomen)- mild to severe backache and strain- increased headaches-difficulty sleeping, and discomfort while sleeping- increased urination and incontinence- bleeding gums-pica-breast pain and discharge-swelling of joints, leg cramps, joint pain-difficulty sitting, standing in later pregnancy- inability to take regular medications-shortness of breath- higher blood pressure
hair loss-tendency to anemia- curtailment of ability to participate in some sports and activities-infection including from serious and potentially fatal disease(pregnant women are immune suppressed compared with non-pregnant women, and are more susceptible to fungal and certain other diseases)
-extreme pain on delivery-hormonal mood changes, including normal post-partum depression-continued post-partum exhaustion and recovery period (exacerbated if a c-section -- major surgery -- is required, sometimes taking up to a full year to fully recover)
Normal, expectable, or frequent PERMANENT side effects of pregnancy:-stretch marks (worse in younger women)-loose skin-permanent weight gain or redistribution-abdominal and vaginal muscle weakness-pelvic floor disorder (occurring in as many as 35% of middle-aged former child-bearers and 50% of elderly former child-bearers, associated with urinary and rectal incontinence, discomfort and reduced quality of life)- changes to breasts-
varicose veins-scarring from episiotomy or c-section- other permanent aesthetic changes to the body- increased proclivity for hemmorhoids-loss of dental and bone calcium (cavities and osteoporosis).
And the list goes on and on. But I forgot one important one: DEATH.
@FrigidSnow people can reply to me saying what the hell do I know but it's the twenty first century for crying out loud. Birth control is widely available. Quite the contrary to someone pro life forcing a woman to go through with an unwanted pregnancy what gives the woman the right to create life, realise she's messed up and then destroy the life she created. Women should learn to use birth control or keep their legs firmly shut. What happened to people taking responsibility for their actions?
@blueyedyorkshirelass But... why do you care whether someone else has sex or not? I mean, it's not your body. It IS the twenty-first century, so why are you still treating women like they're belongings to be publicly judged?
If you don't like it, don't do it. Simple as that. Doesn't mean you have to hurt everyone else's chances at being, y'know, judged as a person and not a walking baby factory.
@blueyedyorkshirelass Excuse me? A woman can't have sex because she has to carry a child and thus should only have sex when she wants a kid? How dare you say that. A woman has the same right as a man to explore her sexuality. And birth control ISN'T widely available and not 99% accurate. We are not baby-machines and take responsibility? Just like all the men do when they rape of just fuck people and then leave. If you want responsibility , then get a womb yourself.
@FrigidSnow, Part 1 of 3: Not only are you grasping at straws, jumping through hoops, and indeed, crawling through your own feces, to come up with some -any- LAME excuse you can facetiously fabricate, but you also couldn’t be more wrong! Fact of the matter is, outside of forced rape, a woman has ABSOLUTELY NO LEGITIMATE EXCUSE for getting pregnant if she doesn’t want to!! MOST birth control methods -including the common pill- are not only free -to- low cost (based on income), but widely...
@FrigidSnow, Part 2 of 3: … and easily available, and have been since 1970 when the govt. began funding PP. PP Govt. tax-payer funding is not allowed by Federal law to be allocated for ANY actual abortion procedures -only pregnancy prevention! There are over 820 Planned Parenthood locations alone nationwide (each state has at least 2, most have more) and another 85+ affiliates. The PILL is 99% accurate -only 1 in 100 women using it correctly will get pregnant (PP’s own statistics!).
@FrigidSnow, Part 3 of 3: There are SEVERAL forms of birth control including condoms, vasectomy, and of course the 100% reliable ABSTINENCE!! IF you cannot control your desires, I suggest a hobby, a pet, or a vibrator! Either way, no matter how you look at it and no matter how you slice it, fact is and REMAINS you have ABSOLUTELY no legit excuse for an ‘unwanted pregnancy’!! FACT is, you cannot get pregnant if you don’t have sex. Darn those “facts” …they’re such stubborn things!
As long as there are murderers around, no. How does a murderer make him/herself not a murderer? Simple. Just redefine the act at whim and call it something else ...like "pro choice" or "abortion." Where there is no moral law, there can be no moral lawbreaker. Remove any semblance of moral absolutes and you are left with nothing more than relativism where objective truth becomes the subjective whim of personal opinion …no longer objective.
@geezusispan …MASSIVE SCAM which is almost always tied directly to the EQUALLY FALLACIOUS MYTH of man-made global warming! Consider yourself completely debunked once and for all! Also consider yourself left without any delusional and twisted excuses, let alone morally justifiable excuses, to demand rights to deliberately take the life of any other innocent human beings.
@geezusispan …40,138 people per Sq mile! People in Union City live just fine. Denmark, Greenland, Iceland & Nambia, etc., are all vastly under populated …and so on …and so on! In short, if it is too CROWDED where you live, then MOVE! Overpopulation is an OBVIOUS myth! Of all the myths perpetuated by communist-socialist secular humanist elites, overpopulation is by far the easiest to debunk! A 10 yr. old could debunk it with nothing more than a pencil, paper & common sense! It’s a…
@geezusispan …acres of temperate rain forest timber!) Canada is number 10 in the 2011-12 top-ten least densely populated counties in the world with extensive stretches of empty habitable land. Worldwide current estimates make Western Sahara & Mongolia the first and second least populated respectively. Mongolia alone averages out to less than 4 people per Sq. mile (only 2.5 million people occupy over 600,000 square miles of land!). Contrast that with Union City, New Jersey (US) with…
@geezusispan …populated with a mere estimated 600,000 population total for a vast 97, 818 Sq. miles (that‘s a mere 5.85 people per Sq. mile; DO THE MATH)! Alaska, with a vast 663.268 Sq. miles of territory is the number one least densely populated US state, and holds the top 12 least populated cities in the US with a mere 1.264 people per Sq. mile! Alaska alone also contains the two largest timbered national forests in the US (the Tongass National Forest Alaska, the largest, has 17 million…
@geezusispan …which averages out to a mere 6.7 people per Sq. mile!! Anyone who claims overpopulation has obviously never been to, or is ignorant of, Montana, Wyoming, Idaho, Oregon, North & South Dakota, Nebraska, Nevada, Kansas, Texas, Arizona, Utah, New Mexico, or Alaska -just to name a few locations in the US alone!- in which hundreds of thousands of square miles of land are open, uninhabited, and easily habitable! Wyoming is the tenth largest state in the US and the second least …
@geezusispan …miles (7,617,930 Sq. km) free of people, BUT THE REMAINDER OF THE ENTIRE LIVABLE LAND MASS OF THE REST OF THE WORLD UNPOPULATED!! Do the SIMPLE math! This FACT could not be more WELL KNOWN! What ROCK on which PLANET did you say you crawled out from under? Australia itself has a total of 2,941,299 Sq. miles of land (most all of which is habitable) with a current estimated population of 22,808,408, …
@geezusispan …FACTS for you -the lab rat- to chew on: The UN estimate of total global population was just announced at 7 billion. The US Census Bureau estimates it at 6.985 billion. That ENTIRE UN population estimate of 7 billion could fit inside and be easily accommodated within the 715,309 Sq. mile (1,852,642 Sq. km) Land Area of Queensland, Australia ALONE, each with enough land for a home & small sustenance garden or animal farm, leaving NOT ONLY the rest of Australia’s 2,941,299 Sq. …
@geezusispan Thanks to you it occurred to me the depth & extent to which a human can be dumbed-down. You would have made Freud, Huxley, Goebbels, Hitler, Neitzsche, and the like, PROUD …like a lab rat pecking at the feeder-bar imprisoned in a little cage you are entirely oblivious to!! Overpopulation is easily exposed and debunked for what it actually is; a delusional myth parroted by those heavily indoctrinated with the atheistic secular humanist religion -JUST LIKE YOU! Some quick …
@geezusispan, …‘must go,’ who better than your narcissistic ilk? Put up …or shut up! Again, I thank you in advance for sacrificing yourself for the myth of overpopulation …and adios.
@geezusispan, …human life by abortion murder -or any other kind of murder- to reduce said fallacious overpopulation to begin with. If you insist it’s justified, I invite you once again to do all us sane people a favor & eliminate yourself first, & don’t forget to take with you all those many like-minded demented secular humanist tyrants I listed below. If there was any logical truth to overpopulation, eliminating you and your kind will help relieve said fallacious overpopulation. If some...
@geezusispan, Two words, dumbed down. Three more words, exponential natural death. Exponential growth has been occurring with the human race since it began with 8 persons some 6000 yrs ago. Ergo, it took 6k years to reach the current population of 7 billion. And the earth could easily accommodate another 14 billion. In any case, 1) the fallacy of overpopulation remains just that, a myth; 2) the myth of overpopulation doesn’t and cannot morally justify the deliberate taking of innocent…
By now your baby might measure about 2 inches (50 millimeters) long from crown to rump and weigh almost 1/3 ounce (8 grams). source: .mayoclinic(dot)com
@geezusispan, … Ted Turner, Henry Kissinger, the Rockefellers, the Carnegie family, Jacques Cousteau, Merton Lambert, Paul Ehrlich, Bertrand Russell, Julian & Aldous Huxley, David Brower, Barbara Marx Hubbard, Alexander King, Bertrand Schneider, Robert McNamara, etc., etc., and of course, all the brainwashed dumbed-down crack-smoking & Kool Aid drinking disciples of Margaret Sanger, Charles Darwin & cousin Francis Galton (father of racist death eugenics),...
@geezusispan, …incapable of either critical thinking or free thought. Garbage in, garbage out. If you really believe the overpopulation myth, perhaps you and all those of like mind should do humanity & the world a favor and eliminate yourselves thus reducing the population for the benefit of the earth and those of us who don’t accept this globalist NWO fallacy or their many other voodoo-pseudo-science socialist control agendas. Please don’t forget to take Prince Phillip, Bill Gates,...
@geezusispan, …from the planet in 200 years?” Yea, that would be a “a childish idea” … if that was anything even remotely close to what I actually claimed. Overpopulation is pure myth; just another in a long line of absurd fallacies perpetuated by socialist secular humanist atheists and evolutionists, like the flat earth myth, the man-made global warming myth, and the Big Bang evolution myth (just to name a few), believed only by the heavily indoctrinated dumbed-down sheeple who are...
@geezusispan, I see you are back to argue some more mind numbing brain-dead logical fallacies. What’s the matter, couldn’t you resist vomiting some more? My English is fine …I’m well versed in it. The real question is, did you learn English? If so, you’re not very efficient in it as you didn’t understand what I said, and thus, took it entirely out of context & twisted it around (as retards habitually do) to mean what you wanted. “So you believe that abortion is going to eliminate humans…
@ boteegay, …as ‘good’ as yours, and they have the potential to have lives even better than yours; so why would you make them suffer so you can have a good life? Yes life is good.
@ boteegay, You do hopefully realize the insane hypocrisy and absurdity of your argument don’t you? You are literally arguing that to eliminate the suffering of some, we should intentionally cause the suffering of others! Madness! But you are free to go first at any time. You say: “unfortunately people like you make others suffer their whole life just because you believe "live is good"“ I do not such thing. In fact, I claim and advocate precisely the opposite. Their lives are just...
@ boteegay, …what it will look like in 200 yrs. By then you will have abortion murder slaughtered each other en masse in a brainless, consciousness, and delusional survival of the fittest “dog eat dog” vicious circle of genocide, eliminating yourselves.
@sparky6025 Where did you learn English? You should go back to class and study, some more.
So you believe that abortion is going to eliminate humans from the planet in 200 years?
What a childish idea. Abortion is legally available to the majority of women right now and yet, the population grows by 134,000,000 per YEAR! Unfortunately OVER population is the real threat.
@ boteegay, says: “unfortunately world gets more and more stupid…” Yes it does “get more and more stupid.” You are living proof of this obvious fact. Perhaps you should have been abortion murdered and the world would be one less “stupid.” “…i don't wanna imagine how the world's gonna look like in 200 years“ Don’t worry, fortunately for the rest of us sane, smart, conscious, and loving people, all you brainless, delusional, conscious less, and hate filled people won’t have to see...
@ boteegay, No I don’t “prefer” seeing a child suffering. Speak arrogantly for yourself! … regardless of which language is your mother tongue. Let’s get the facts strait: It is you who “prefer” the suffering of children by arguing for the abortion murder suffering of innocent children, not me. That “fetus” (Latin for “offspring,” or ‘little one’) IS A human being by whatever name or label you call it.
@ boteegay, You say: “by not making the abortion maybe you take the chance to another soul to live a much more happier life in it's place ... what do you say about it?” I say maybe any one of the billions of genocide abortion murdered could have just as likely also lived a happy life. I have arbitrarily decided you and those like you are not viable and should be aborted en masse, so the rest of us can live happy lives. That is your ludicrous insane argument turned around on you.
@ boteegay, says: “sorry i have to say it, but you are absolutely brainless and delusional.” No you are not sorry; who are you trying to fool? Why feign sorrow? It makes you disingenuous from the get-go. Yes, life is full of suffering -including the suffering that literally billions of abortion murdered children have gone through. And there is not one single instance of suffering that we don‘t already have the power and means to easily and entirely eliminate off this planet.
@geezusispan, …yourself out of your misery? I recommend you use a vacuum cleaner, some big tongs, and a big jar! Oh wait! …never mind! Apparently that’s how you became so severely damaged to begin with …a failed abortion murder attempt that left you lunatic!
@geezusispan, …don’t even believe in to ‘bless’ your deliberate desire to take the life of another innocent human being!! That says it all! Oh the hypocrisy! …ludicrous! …delusional insanity! …schizophrenia! …pure rabid foaming at the mouth basket-weaving strait-jacket madness!! Who’s really ‘delusional’? The only place where abortion murder is not the deliberate taking of another innocent human life is in what’s left of your scrambled & fermented mind. Do yourself a favor and put…
@geezusispan, “Do you live in the US?” Yes. “Isn't it great that women have the reproductive freedom to choose abortion if they don't want to give birth?” No. It is not great women have the freedom to choose to deliberately and intentionally take the life of another innocent helpless human being -no more than it was ‘great’ another person could once legally own slaves and treat them as they wanted in the US. “God bless america, the land of safe and legal abortions” Calling on a God you…
@geezusispan, Yes I know what constitutes the deliberate premeditated taking of another innocent human life. So do you and every ‘government’ and person of the world, whether it’s admitted, or they remain willingly ignorant (dumb on purpose). Why would you ‘bow’ to anyone like a willingly ignorant slave? Your delusional disorder is also a benefit for being a good faithful little atheist fluke of the universe.
The size of the ultrasound image and of the fetus model used was also misleading, appearing to show a fetus the size of a full-term baby, while in actuality a twelve-week-old fetus is under two inches long.
@geezusispan don't bother, go and read something instead of posting intelligent things on youtube... they don't understand it anyway. you stated it right, this video is lying to the ignorant and uneducated population. and even if you tell them they are being lied, they state "but you take an innocent life" what actually doesn't represent an argument against the fact that this video is a lie. cheers, and happy new year. i'm glad there are still intelligent people out there in this world
Fetal development experts argued that, contrary to Nathanson's assertion in the film, a fetus cannot perceive danger or make purposeful movements. David Bodian, a neurobiologist at Johns Hopkins School of Medicine, stated that doctors had no evidence that a twelve-week-old fetus could feel pain, but noted the possibility of a reflex movement by a fetus in response to external stimuli such as surgical instruments. cont -
noting that "the fetus spends lots of time with its mouth open", that the "scream" may have been a yawn, and also that "mouth" identified on the blurry ultrasound in the film may in fact have been the space between the fetal chin and chest.
John Hobbins of the Yale School of Medicine called the film's use of special effects deceptive, a form of "technical flimflam." He pointed out that the film of the ultrasound is initially run at slow speed, but that it is sped up when surgical instruments are introduced to give the impression that "the fetus is thrashing about in alarm." Hobbins questioned the titular "scream", cont
@geezusispan says, “Even in countries where abortion is illegal, the women are not charged with murder” More non sequitur logical fallacy. Whether they are actually charged by the powers that be with the taking of another life or not, is irrelevant; life was still maliciously, premeditatedly, and deliberately taken. The Nazis mass murdered some 11 million people and didn’t break one single German law.
In every country in the world, no matter if abortion is legal or illegal it is NEVER called murder. You say it is murder. I guess YOU must be right...... you and twelve other religiotards... hahahah
@geezusispan …“hahahah” is this the best you can come up with? Honestly, are 7 years old? Still playing your little cutesie semantics game eh? More equivocation logical fallacy. “Avoid the truth at all costs” appears to be your motto. Whether or not ANY country in the world ever calls it “murder” is entirely irrelevant. It is still the deliberate premeditated taking of another living human beings life. Call it or don’t call it whatever you wish to ease your reprobate conscience; this...
@geezusispan …truth still remains absolute truth. You are typical of the disciples of atheist evotard religion. Mind ‘mother nature’ -your god of the gaps- lest she smite thee by abortion.
@sparky6025 said - …truth still remains absolute truth. You are typical of the disciples of atheist evotard religion. Mind ‘mother nature’ -your god of the gaps- lest she smite thee by abortion.
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Absolute truth, that's in math and some physics, as far as we know. Your book of mythology has none..... Since I'm a born person, it's impossible for me to be aborted.
@geezusispan I've looked up the movie and I'm not surprised to see that the only people who are displeased about the movie are the pro-abortionists like you
@geezusispan …(Macmillian Dictionary online). What woman who has aborted a living human child did not do so deliberately? None. Abortion by it’s very nature is the premeditated deliberate malicious taking of another life! Whether it is not admitted and recognized as such by some is irrelevant. “You shall not murder” (Exodus 20:13). “You shall not murder” (Deuteronomy 5:17). …
This documentary has moved me. I am a 19 year old male and I have supported abortion through the predicaments between rape, a condom breaking, etc. But watching this has changed my mind about it COMPLETELY! This is literally murder. It's gruesome and it is wrong!
germanluisv 15 hours ago
this can really make a difference if seen before an abortion
SuperLakesha28 6 days ago
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I have always been Pro-Choice. I myself have NEVER had an abortion, and do have 2 children. I always felt like it was every woman's right to have an abortion if they wanted. I NO LONGER FEEL THAT WAY. I am glad that the Dr says that the women are victim's as well.... Because I myself, and I am sure many other woman have no idea what abortion REALLY is. I DID think that they were just cells, that did not feel anything. I agree that this video should be shown prior to ALL abortions. Poor babies.
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ImAlexisRawr 2 weeks ago
@5Mariner, yea that would be a hideous thing to do.
sparky6025 2 weeks ago
@sparky6025 It's sad that this is what pro-lifers have representing them. Truly a cause to fight for.
Kitsune 2 weeks ago
@Kitsune, and it's pathetic that you are what pro-deathers have to represent them.
Glad to see you found a cause worth fighting for ...now if you would just give your life for it and rid us all of another nuisance parasite.
sparky6025 2 weeks ago
@Kitsune We fight to keep babies from being butchered, you fight to butcher them so their mothers can stay young
5Mariner 1 week ago
@FrigidSnow No. A fetus, Never EVER has done a thing wrong. A mother should have enough absolute love for her child, an actual Human being made from her, by her, that she should absolutely want her INNOCENT child to have the opprotunity for a life before her. A fetus could NEVER be a murderer. A murderer knowingly commits the act of murder on purpose. Don't even try to say that because you are, in every single way WRONG.
jfstroh15 3 weeks ago
i think im going to be sick....
lelipop18 1 month ago
Abortion is one of the few things that Religion and Science agree on.
I'm Catholic and I became pro-life because I saw that science tells us what abortion does. It was science that made me pro-life.
5Mariner 1 month ago
@5Mariner Science tells you that abortion is, when performed safely in places where it is LEGAL, a low-risk procedure that has little to no lasting effects on the patient in question physically or mentally-- unlike a full-term pregnancy, which forever changes a woman's body and can cause serious mental issues. So I hope by "pro-life" you mean pro-the mother's-life.
Kitsune 3 weeks ago
@Kitsune How about not gettting pregnant n the first place. We had condom for teh man and pills for the woman. There's really no excuse for a pregnancy to occur for those 0.000001% of times the condom/pill combo does not work
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harleykman 3 weeks ago
@harleykman Because birth control is NOT foolproof, nor is it available for every single person in the United State-- especially the pill. Restrictions due to area, religion, and doctors holding their religion above their own jobs apply in this situation.
Kitsune 3 weeks ago
@Kitsune, another poor excuse! The Pill is 99% foolproof as PP themselves claim! Doctors cannot legally prescribe or abstain based on their religion! Even so, then go to a pro-abortion doctor to get your birth control. PP offers it free to low cost depending on your income status -by Federal Law as funded by Govt. tax-payers. Either way, abstinence is 100% foolproof! ….just a little FACT you people almost always fail to consider! What other lame excuses can you come up with?
sparky6025 2 weeks ago
@Kitsune Where do you get your information? Even Planned Parenthood admits abortion's possible emotional consequences, though only barely. Women come forward days, months, years after having an abortion with serious emotional/mental problems. It's true that some mothers go though depression after giving birth, but the mental/emotional complications after abortion can be just as bad or worse. And she might not find anyone to validate her feelings - after all, she just got rid of "unwanted tissue"
AnnalynAlexis 3 weeks ago
@AnnalynAlexis Women also come forward days, months, years after having children with serious emotional/mental problems, what's your point? The chances of this happening are VERY small, especially if the woman was coached through her problems with kindness and understanding that it is HER choice, and up to no one else. If someone feels regret after an abortion, I'm sorry they chose to do something they didn't want-- but it was their choice, and no one else's.
Kitsune 3 weeks ago
@Kitsune Have you read about the possible physical complications from abortions? Have you found information from places besides PP and other passionately "pro-choice" organizations?
And just because something is legal doesn't mean it's good. Slavery was legal, for heaven's sakes!
"Pro-life" means pro-every-life, mother and child. This is the 21st century! Women rarely die from childbirth in the US. And some do die from abortion, so don't go lauding it as a pro-woman procedure. It's not.
AnnalynAlexis 3 weeks ago
@AnnalynAlexis The physical complications that arise from abortions are significantly less than that of a full-term pregnancy. Do NOT compare slavery to abortion-- ripping people who have been alive and autonomous for years or decades from their home is nothing compared to removing a tiny clump of jelly-like cells. Nobody should ever be forced to carry something in their body they don't want. Children should always come into this world loved and WANTED, not forced as punishment.
Kitsune 3 weeks ago
@Kitsune Youtube isn't letting me post the links I want to give to you from unbiased sources-- but if you look for elective abortion complications and mortality rates they're easy enough to find so long as you dodge around the Religious and other heavily biased websites, like pregnantpause or foothillsrpc or whatever it is. Point is, elective abortions done in the first trimester are one of the safer procedures out there(and most abortions are in the first trimester).
Kitsune 3 weeks ago
@Kitsune I barely know where to start, your comment is so messed up. Hold on, this will take a couple of comments, even without me going in depth.
- A tiny clump of jelly-like cells?! Did you even watch this video? The unborn child has definite features from really early on. He/she has a BEATING HEART by three weeks after conception. But don't take my word for it - go ask any scientific source. Perhaps this video, even. The guy used to perform abortions himself. (continued in next comment)
AnnalynAlexis 3 weeks ago
@Kitsune (cont. from before)
- All I said was the slavery was legal, proving that not everything that is legal is okay.
- The baby is a person, not a thing. Otherwise, I'd agree with you. We're women, hon. Unless we avoid sex, use birth control with zeal, or are infertile, we're bound to get pregnant at some point. And heaven forbid a modern, "liberated" women be abstinent, so that first option is clearly out.
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AnnalynAlexis 3 weeks ago
@Kitsune (cont. from before)
The moment sperm meets egg, a human being is created. It's a natural result of unprotected sex. He/she starts growing. By 10-11 wks in, all organs are present - they just need to grow. The child can grasp something placed in his/her hand. And, at 10-11 weeks, he/she already has FINGERPRINTS. "Clump of jelly-like cells" indeed! REM sleep (aka dreams) happens by 17 weeks and... wait, am I really going to explain all the amazing things that happen in the womb?
(cont.)
AnnalynAlexis 3 weeks ago
@Kitsune (cont. from before)
- Let me get this straight: "Every child a wanted child, so let's kill the ones we don't want or love." Do you realize how messed up that is? Here's what I say: "Every child a wanted child, so let's learn to want them more." or "Every child a wanted child, so even if you don't want him/her at the moment, know that there's someone out there longing to adopt and love him/her."
- "Forced as punishment."?! (cont. next comment)
AnnalynAlexis 3 weeks ago
@Kitsune (cont.)
Are you saying that unplanned children are punishments?! That a human life, a precious child, the very event that brings joy to billions of people, is a punishment? As if God said "You had sex before marriage, so I'm going to make you carry this thing"?! You make the baby sound like an STD or parasite! As a former fetus and baby, I take great offense at your words. And I take even greater offense on behalf of the unplanned babies who have grown up to become friends
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AnnalynAlexis 3 weeks ago
@AnnalynAlexis -Slavery and abortion are not, and will never be, comparable.
-No children are involved in abortion-- a child is by definitely already born and autonomous.
-I did NOT watch this video, as it is misinformed and very, very biased.
-A BABY is a person, yes-- a fetus has the potential to be a person, but is not until it is born.
-Pro-life agendas and overly-religious zealots trying to make abortion illegal are forcing an unwanted child on a woman as punishment, yes.
Kitsune 3 weeks ago
@Kitsune
- How can you say it's misinformed and biased if you haven't watched it?
- The only difference between a born baby and a fetus is location.
- You said that a child is not involved in abortion since he/she is not born. In that case, the mother can give it up for adoption as soon as he/she is born and becomes an unwanted "child." Problem solved.
- No one's forcing women to get pregnant. If they must have sex, condoms and pills are available (though I have problems with the pills)
AnnalynAlexis 3 weeks ago
@AnnalynAlexis -This video cannot be considered a scientific source, because it is biased, much like any passionate pro-life or pro-choice website.
-Maybe some people don't WANT children, but want to have sex. You do not have the right to force a woman to feel ashamed of something she cannot stop, but can fix.
-For every one child that gets adopted there are many, many more stuck in the system for life. I personally would have been one of them if I didn't have family to take me.
Kitsune 3 weeks ago
@Kitsune
-Babies put up for adoption by the mother go directly into the hands of a loving, welcoming adoptive family. Not into the system
- Yes, fetuses can differentiate pain from other stimuli quite early on. And there are many babies born prematurely long before 35 weeks (even 22 weeks) - they react to pain, noise, and light just as well as those born at 9 months.
- Babies can't live without help, and are dependent on hosts early on in development. That means they're helpless, not disposable
AnnalynAlexis 3 weeks ago
@Kitsune, there is no such thing as an unbiased worldview, especially on matters of life and death. Don't fool yourself. Your very opinion here is biased. If "some people don't want children" it's simple, don't get pregnant!! Something "she cannot stop"? What could it possibly be that "she cannot stop"? ...intentional unprotected sex, and thus the resulting pregnancy -or- her deliberate determination to abortion murder an innocent human being? Who is forcing women at gunpoint to do either??
sparky6025 2 weeks ago
@AnnalynAlexis -Regardless of whether or not the fetus has organs by 12 weeks, it can only react to stimulus in the vaguest of senses-- it is not a living, feeling minature person hiding out in your uterus like a hermit. Fetuses cannot even differentiate pain from other stimuli until 35 weeks, so abortion does not hurt the fetus.
-A baby is a literal parasite-- it cannot live without a host.
-Shock, I was also a former fetus. Doesn't mean I have to want to host one.
Kitsune 3 weeks ago
@Kitsune, if you don't want to "host" one, it's simple, don't get pregnant.
You are a literal parasite as well. which society could do without ...if nothing else, you take up space and air someone else could use. So do us all a favor and off yourself. Thank you.
sparky6025 2 weeks ago
@AnnalynAlexis -Regarding the "As if God said" bit-- some people actually believe this and use it as their driving argument against abortion, yes.
But it comes to this: if you don't like it, don't do it. Making abortion illegal just makes women significantly more likely to attempt "back-alley" abortions, thus immensely increasing their chances for death in the process.
Kitsune 3 weeks ago
@Kitsune
The stats about "back-alley" abortions and chances of death are greatly exaggerated. Most illegal abortions were done by doctors, and the invent of penicillin greatly reduced deaths. By 1972, the yr before Roe v Wade, deaths were down to 39 per yr. And even with abortion legal women still die from complications. Further, most women wouldn't an abortion if it were illegal anyway. Tragic as these deaths are, the babies' deaths are just as tragic and need to be prevented just as much(cont)
AnnalynAlexis 3 weeks ago
@Kitsune
(cont) Since the center of the abortion debate is around whether or not the unborn baby is a human/person and must be protected, and millions of babies are aborted (killed) each year, the inaccurate "back alley" argument is rather incidental. We can save those women in other ways.
Lastly, the "if you don't like it, don't do it" argument works for plastic surgery. But if the unborn baby is human, which it is, then the argument fails. It's like saying "if you don't like murder, don't"
AnnalynAlexis 3 weeks ago
@AnnalynAlexis, well said AnnalynAlexis! Also medical science has established a direct link between breast cancer and abortion. A significant percentage of women who have had abortions also end-up with breast cancer later.
sparky6025 2 weeks ago
@Kitsune
Are you saying that its okay to kill babies?
5Mariner 3 weeks ago
@5Mariner There are no babies involved in abortion, seeing as babies are autonomous and able to live outside the womb without the support of the woman as a host.
Kitsune 3 weeks ago
@Kitsune This is false. A baby can not survive on its own. If you do not believe, take a newborn, lay it on a table, and then see how long it lasts
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It will be dead in just a few hours
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harleykman 3 weeks ago 2
@harleykman more like a few minutes
5Mariner 1 week ago
@Kitsune Take a baby and put it in a room and close the door and see how long it lives on it's own.
SputnikMedia 3 weeks ago
SputnikMedia, Yea ...all the more reason to show concern and compassion for the child! Ever heard of these terms or are they foreign to you? In the meantime take SputnikMedia and put "it" in a room and close the door and see how long it lives on it's own! Heck, you can even leave the door open! You couldn't survive on your own either ..twit! You people are mentally deranged ad nausea (*vomits with disgust*).
sparky6025 3 weeks ago
@Kitsune
That was an abortion IDIOT!
5Mariner 2 weeks ago
@Kitsune
So even though it has a heart, lungs, and a brain and it moves, it's not a baby?
5Mariner 2 weeks ago
Someone earlier said those who are prolife are the ones who have never had an unwanted or unplanned pregnancy. This just is not true. I believe some people are pro-life because those unwanted babies became very much wanted throughout the pregnancy and especially after they were born. I never wanted children when I became pregnant. My first pregnancy was very much unplanned and unwanted. I cried when I found out I was pregnant.
jdbly7384 1 month ago
@jdbly7384 Now I love children and believe pregnancy is a wonderful, sacred experience and should rarely be treated as anything less, even if it is a teenager or older mother who become pregnant.
jdbly7384 1 month ago
This is so sad. Poor little ones. How can people be so wicked and claim that it's okay? I could never do that.
taffyy91 1 month ago
@ FrigidSnow … LEFT WITHOUT reasonable and rational EXCUSE to abortion murder another innocent human being in EITHER CASE!!
sparky6025 1 month ago
@sparky6025 haha seriously? You are saying women should NEVER have sex unless they use birthcontrol(which isn't 99% accurate and not freely available) because they could get pregnant? It's her own fucking body and you have no say in the fucking matter. How do you know it's a innocent human being?! It's a clump of cells that could be a human.
FrigidSnow 3 weeks ago
@FrigidSnow I'm not reasonable?! You are forcing a woman to carry out a pregnancy because you think abortion is murder. You value a clump of cells more than an already born woman.Yes you have the privelge to life. You have 'rights' given to you by your goverment, same kind of rights you are denying a woman to life her own life. What a woman does with her own body is no concern of yours.
FrigidSnow 3 weeks ago
@FrigidSnow Can't you see you completely disregard a person on basis of a couple of cells?And you find me irrational?It's already a hard choice to do as a woman to take an abortion.You won't ever feel the fear of a woman who's afraid to get pregnant because people like you would simply hunt her down because they value a few cells more than her entire being and future.
FrigidSnow 3 weeks ago
@FrigidSnow On a side note: So you think a fetus is an innocent human being? What if a fetus is making a woman so sick that she's dying?If she dies because of her pregnancy and couldn't get an abortion..then you sir, are responsible for her death. and there goes your argument with a fetus being an innocent human being. Then the fetus is a murderer.
FrigidSnow 3 weeks ago
morality is a subjective interpretation of the facts of reality assailing us
flatback90 2 weeks ago
@flatback90, Part 1 of 2: …in other words the old reliable secular humanist fence-walking stand-by that there are no absolutes! ...to which I must ask you, “Are you absolutely sure that "morality is a subjective interpretation of the facts of reality..."? My "subjective interpretation of the facts of reality" has led me to determine it's ok to place a 357 bullet in your head ...and so who are you to argue I'm wrong or prevent me? Indeed! So is it or isn’t it? And if it’s not ok, then on...
sparky6025 2 weeks ago
@FrigidSnow, utter absurd and ludicrous nonsense in the extreme! A “fetus” doesn’t “MAKE” a woman sick intentionally and deliberately with malice, UNLIKE a woman who must deliberately and intentionally with malice abortion murder her child! Your logic is about as bassackwards -not to mention just plain retarded- as it can possibly get! Can I blame you as a murderer for my death from that Flu virus you UNINTENTIONALLY passed on to me?!?
sparky6025 2 weeks ago
@FrigidSnow, I am doing no such thing! Save your absurd false charges 4 the short bus! One "clump of cells" is just as valuable as the other!! Who are YOU to arbitrarily DECIDE otherwise?? No, it's NOT a "privilege," LIFE is an inalienable RIGHT! Rights come from a MUCH GREATER authority than the Govt. If you are going to rely merely on others to GRANT you whatever RIGHTS they will ALLOW you to have, I'll see you in the slave quarters, concentration camp or ash heap ...have fun!
sparky6025 2 weeks ago
@FrigidSnow And in cases of rape, whoes that one who hurt the women?
The rapist or the baby? You tell me and don't you dare say "Both"
5Mariner 1 week ago
@FrigidSnow, If a woman doesn't want to grt pregnant she can easily entirely avoid it. What part of this FACT is so simple you are incapable of comprehending it?!? Honestly! ...what could it be guilty of? You are also merely a 'clump' of cells & it's just as debatable whether you're human!. I stand amazed at the extent to which U pro 'choice' - pro deathers will hold on to your circular reasoning and how quickly and easily you all walk right into your own little intellectual corners. Pathetic.
sparky6025 2 weeks ago
@FrigidSnow Did you even pay attention to the abortion? Because anyone with eyes and ears and a brain can see that that thing in the women's body is more than a small clump of microscopic cells. Its all right there! You're just being what every pro-abortionist is, IGNORANT!!!
5Mariner 1 week ago
@ FrigidSnow … subject to that long list of supposed side-effects of pregnancy you give, and which you equate with ‘torture,’ to avoid any and all of them -due to pregnancy- I recommend simply this: 1) Don’t have SEX; 2) If you cannot control yourself use FREELY available birth control methods that PREVENT CONCEPTION in the FIRST PLACE, thus preventing YOUR need of ‘convenience’ to ABORTION MURDER an innocent human being in the SCEOND PLACE!! It’s quite simple! Once again, you are simply…
sparky6025 1 month ago
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@ FrigidSnow You claim the absurdity: “You want to lable abortion murder?So removing a few cells which has not formed into the shape of a human child is as bad a stabbing/shooting a person?” -The deliberate taking of another innocent human life is murder regardless of the means by which it is done and regardless of whatever arbitrary and convenient label you give those means! Your own obfuscation and equivocation has once again annihilated your own argument! If you don’t want to be...
sparky6025 1 month ago
@ FrigidSnow …THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS.” (Preamble to the US Declaration of Independence. Emphasis mine). Please DO YOURSELF AND ESPECIALLY OTHERS A FAVOR and look up the definitions of “unalienable” and “inalienable”!! Who then bestowed this ‘privilege’ or ‘right’ exclusively on you or anyone else, and who then are you to grant ’privileges’ and/or take away those ‘rights’ from anyone else? Fact is, as narcissist as you are, you are no one to do any such thing!
sparky6025 1 month ago
@ FrigidSnow …argument utterly obliterates your own claims! You may believe you merely have a granted-by-someone-else ‘privilege’ to life, or any other rights or privileges, but I believe rights -ESPECIALLY the right to life- is an INALIENABLE RIGHT granted by a power INFINATELY more powerful than you! “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL, THAT THEY ARE ENDOWED BY THEIR CREATOR WITH CERTAIN UNALIENABLE RIGHTS, that among these are LIFE, LIBERTY AND …
sparky6025 1 month ago
@ FrigidSnow … anyone else the “right” to arbitrarily determine who gets granted the ‘privilege’ of life or any other rights or privileges?! Are you some omnipotent God or ‘a god’? Are you the source of all life or now suddenly the owner of all life? Who now gives you the “privilege” to life? Who died and gave you all this absolute power? If it is merely a privilege someone has granted you, then someone can just take that ‘privilege’ away as easily as they gave it to you! Your own...
sparky6025 1 month ago
@ FrigidSnow …fact is so incomprehensible to you? If you actually believe this ludicrous absurdity, then I now likewise in the SAME ARBITRARY MANNER you have used, deem you a ‘non-person’ as well, and thus, as such, I have the ‘privilege‘ to LIKEWISE eliminate you at WILL!! So life is a “PRIVILIGE” eh? And just who gets to determine who gets this ‘privilege’ and who does not… perhaps only you or those like you? You are tripping over your own slippery slope argument!! Who gave you or…
sparky6025 1 month ago
@ FrigidSnow … being from CONCEPTION. A human being ‘fetus’ cannot be ANYTHING ELSE but a human being!! Your ‘fetus’ argument is nothing more than a regurgitation of the same old moral free conscious free non sequitur logical fallacy! Merely calling a human being a ‘fetus’ (merely Latin for “offspring” or ‘little one’) or a ‘non-person’ does not make it non human!! REGARDLESS of what you arbitrarily LABEL IT, it STILL REMAINS A LIVING HUMAN BEING!! What part of this simple common sense...
sparky6025 1 month ago
@ FrigidSnow You claim: “Ofcourse those are pro-choice are already born, a fetus isn't born thus not a person and you must realize it's a PRIVILIGE TO LIFE not the right.” -UNBELIVABLE! The only people who would hypocritically claim a ‘right to life’ is merely a granted ‘privilege’ by others and for others, are those who already have a ‘right to life’ and are already alive! A fetus isn’t a person? Again! Are you serious? What pray-tell then is a fetus? …an eggplant? A fetus is a human...
sparky6025 1 month ago
@sparky6025
Fetus is Latin for "Little One"
5Mariner 1 month ago
@5Mariner says: "Fetus is Latin for "Little One"" Yes, "Feotus" ...as in little human being! ....and so, what’s yer point?
sparky6025 3 weeks ago
@sparky6025
My point is exactly what you said
A Fetus is a little human being. I'm contradicting those who say "Thats not a baby its a Fetus"
5Mariner 2 weeks ago
@5Mariner, sorry 5Mariner, took you wrong ...my bad! Yes I agree totally with you. Some actually think they can change the nature of something by calling it by some other name, but a human being still remains a human being regardless of what label you place on it!
sparky6025 2 weeks ago
@sparky6025 No Problem
5Mariner 4 days ago
@5Mariner And your Damn Right!
5Mariner 4 days ago
@ FrigidSnow …be and is used as a ‘tool’ against insignificant populations as easily as it is used against significant populations. Drought DOES NOT cause famine. It only causes dry earth and is a well known part of the natural cycle! Famine, just like homelessness and poverty, is caused by RAMPANT GREED, pure and simple!
sparky6025 1 month ago
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@ FrigidSnow …THOSE WHO HAVE GREEDY MONOPOLY CONTROL OVER IT- can easily be used to aid in this. You then claim: “….and overpopulation is measured by the needs versus the available resources.” -this can also easily be changed since it is a decision based on nothing more than MERE CHOICE! Resources are only limited out of pure greed and control, not by nature. The greedy monopolization of ‘resources’ has nothing to do with the population. Greedy monopolization of resources can …
sparky6025 1 month ago
@ FrigidSnow … said about most geographic locations where populations NOW THRIVE, such as, for example, the hot desert regions of the southwest US and other locations, or the cold regions of eg., Artic, Antarctic and Alaska. Did you know people -the Yupik and Inuit peoples- have been living and thriving in Siberia, across Alaska and Northern Canada and Greenland for thousands of years? People can easily adapt to live in most any environment and our modern technology -IF FREELY SHARED BY…
sparky6025 1 month ago
@ FrigidSnow … You claim: “The area's you just named that aren't overpopulated are natural protected habitats…” -that can easily be changed since it is a decision based on nothing more than MERE CHOICE! And that is all besides the PLAIN FACT people ALREADY LIVE and THRIVE in these areas I listed! I challenge you to give one example of those locations I listed where no one currently lives or CANNOT LIVE and THRIVE. You also claim: “…or very difficult to live…” -that’s what they…
sparky6025 1 month ago
@ FrigidSnow …feign concern here, once again I invite you and all your ilk to relieve this so-called ‘overpopulation’ problem and eliminate yourselves …as the useless feeders and breeders you believe yourselves to be. In short, put up or shut up. Did you know that a dead by suicide person can’t get pregnant and contribute to the so-called ‘overpopulation’ problem? Your hypocrisy knows no bounds and your argument is ad absurdum in the extreme.
sparky6025 1 month ago
@ FrigidSnow … contain themselves. If anyone is “forcing” anyone to do anything, it’s the abortion murderer forcing the innocent living human being to give up their life by tortured cold-blooded murder. You are just another in a long line of void of morality reprobates attempting to justify abortion murder as an after-the-fact form of birth control with the fallacious myth of ‘overpopulation’ as an excuse. If you are so concerned about this supposed ‘overpopulation’ problem as you...
sparky6025 1 month ago
@ FrigidSnow I’m not forcing a person to do any such thing! STRAW MAN! Outside of forced rape, whether a woman gets pregnant or not is ENTIRELY BY THEIR CONTROL and FREEWILL CHOICE! Torture? Are you serious? If you believe it is ‘torture,’ I can only ask you just what is it that prevents anyone who doesn’t want a child and considers it ‘torture,’ from conceiving a child in the first place? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! It is pure CHOICE! Birth control is freely available for those who cannot…
sparky6025 1 month ago
There are a ton of pedophiles who would love to adopt.
sparky6025 1 month ago
@sparky6025 Is that supposed to be good?
5Mariner 1 week ago
There are a ton of gays, lesbians, and atheists who would love to adopt.
jtoni17 1 month ago
Did you ever notice the only ones who are 'pro choice' are those who are already born and no longer in danger of being abortion murdered?
sparky6025 1 month ago
@sparky6025
Notice how the only ones who are pro-life have never had unwanted pregnancies?
poised2pause 1 month ago
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@poised2pause says :“Notice how the only ones who are pro-life have never had unwanted pregnancies?”
Really? This simply isn’t true. I know from first hand experience.
sparky6025 1 month ago
@sparky6025 Congrats you just hit the nail on the head!
5Mariner 1 week ago
@poised2pause probably because they give enough of a damn about potentially creating a new life to be more careful than the selfish women out there who use abortion as another form of birth control. In short women who are pro life never have unwanted pregnancies because they care too much to take the risk
blueyedyorkshirelass 1 month ago
@blueyedyorkshirelass "In short women who are pro life never have unwanted pregnancies"
Reality called, sie's kicking you out of the apartment. Go chill with Delusions for a while.
Kitsune 3 weeks ago
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5Mariner 1 week ago
Welcome to the tortured evotard dog eat dog "survival of the fittest" (oxymoron) chaos world of atheistic secular humanism.
sparky6025 1 month ago
@sparky6025 You're forcing a person to carry a child for 9 monts.Do you even know how psycically and mentally hard that is? Even when you don't want it, that would be labeled as torture.That the world isn't overpopulated is as much as a myth as a fetus feeling pain in this video.The area's you just named that aren't overpopulated are natural protected habitats or very difficult to live and overpopulation is measured by the needs versus the available resources.
FrigidSnow 1 month ago 2
@FrigidSnow and seriously Nambia and Mongolia? Do you even know how hard it is to live there because of the harsh enviroment (drought e.g.)not to mention the high mountainrange in mongolia and sweden? You really live in a fairytale. Ofcourse those are pro-choice are already born, a fetus isn't born thus not a person and you must realize it's a PRIVILIGE TO LIFE not the right. If my parents wanted to abort me because they weren't ready. Then ok.
FrigidSnow 1 month ago
@FrigidSnow You want to lable abortion murder?So removing a few cells which has not formed into the shape of a human child is as bad a stabbing/shooting a person?HEre's a list of things a person has to go through during a pregnancy:
FrigidSnow 1 month ago
@FrigidSnow ormal, frequent or expectable temporary side effects of pregnancy: exhaustion (weariness common from first weeks) - altered appetite and senses of taste and smell- nausea and vomiting (50% of women, first trimester)- heartburn and indigestion- constipation- weight gain- dizziness and light-headedness-bloating, swelling, fluid retention- hemmorhoids- abdominal cramps- yeast infections-congested, bloody nose- acne and mild skin disorders
FrigidSnow 1 month ago 2
skin discoloration (chloasma, face and abdomen)- mild to severe backache and strain- increased headaches-difficulty sleeping, and discomfort while sleeping- increased urination and incontinence- bleeding gums-pica-breast pain and discharge-swelling of joints, leg cramps, joint pain-difficulty sitting, standing in later pregnancy- inability to take regular medications-shortness of breath- higher blood pressure
FrigidSnow 1 month ago 2
hair loss-tendency to anemia- curtailment of ability to participate in some sports and activities-infection including from serious and potentially fatal disease(pregnant women are immune suppressed compared with non-pregnant women, and are more susceptible to fungal and certain other diseases)
FrigidSnow 1 month ago 2
-extreme pain on delivery-hormonal mood changes, including normal post-partum depression-continued post-partum exhaustion and recovery period (exacerbated if a c-section -- major surgery -- is required, sometimes taking up to a full year to fully recover)
FrigidSnow 1 month ago 3
Normal, expectable, or frequent PERMANENT side effects of pregnancy:-stretch marks (worse in younger women)-loose skin-permanent weight gain or redistribution-abdominal and vaginal muscle weakness-pelvic floor disorder (occurring in as many as 35% of middle-aged former child-bearers and 50% of elderly former child-bearers, associated with urinary and rectal incontinence, discomfort and reduced quality of life)- changes to breasts-
FrigidSnow 1 month ago
varicose veins-scarring from episiotomy or c-section- other permanent aesthetic changes to the body- increased proclivity for hemmorhoids-loss of dental and bone calcium (cavities and osteoporosis).
And the list goes on and on. But I forgot one important one: DEATH.
FrigidSnow 1 month ago 5
@FrigidSnow So the Holocause wasn't a crime?
5Mariner 1 week ago
@FrigidSnow people can reply to me saying what the hell do I know but it's the twenty first century for crying out loud. Birth control is widely available. Quite the contrary to someone pro life forcing a woman to go through with an unwanted pregnancy what gives the woman the right to create life, realise she's messed up and then destroy the life she created. Women should learn to use birth control or keep their legs firmly shut. What happened to people taking responsibility for their actions?
blueyedyorkshirelass 1 month ago
@blueyedyorkshirelass But... why do you care whether someone else has sex or not? I mean, it's not your body. It IS the twenty-first century, so why are you still treating women like they're belongings to be publicly judged?
If you don't like it, don't do it. Simple as that. Doesn't mean you have to hurt everyone else's chances at being, y'know, judged as a person and not a walking baby factory.
Kitsune 3 weeks ago
@Kitsune If women have the right to kill their kids than why the fuck did we put Casey Anthony on trial?
5Mariner 1 week ago
@blueyedyorkshirelass Excuse me? A woman can't have sex because she has to carry a child and thus should only have sex when she wants a kid? How dare you say that. A woman has the same right as a man to explore her sexuality. And birth control ISN'T widely available and not 99% accurate. We are not baby-machines and take responsibility? Just like all the men do when they rape of just fuck people and then leave. If you want responsibility , then get a womb yourself.
FrigidSnow 3 weeks ago
@FrigidSnow, Part 1 of 3: Not only are you grasping at straws, jumping through hoops, and indeed, crawling through your own feces, to come up with some -any- LAME excuse you can facetiously fabricate, but you also couldn’t be more wrong! Fact of the matter is, outside of forced rape, a woman has ABSOLUTELY NO LEGITIMATE EXCUSE for getting pregnant if she doesn’t want to!! MOST birth control methods -including the common pill- are not only free -to- low cost (based on income), but widely...
sparky6025 2 weeks ago
@FrigidSnow, Part 2 of 3: … and easily available, and have been since 1970 when the govt. began funding PP. PP Govt. tax-payer funding is not allowed by Federal law to be allocated for ANY actual abortion procedures -only pregnancy prevention! There are over 820 Planned Parenthood locations alone nationwide (each state has at least 2, most have more) and another 85+ affiliates. The PILL is 99% accurate -only 1 in 100 women using it correctly will get pregnant (PP’s own statistics!).
sparky6025 2 weeks ago
@FrigidSnow, Part 3 of 3: There are SEVERAL forms of birth control including condoms, vasectomy, and of course the 100% reliable ABSTINENCE!! IF you cannot control your desires, I suggest a hobby, a pet, or a vibrator! Either way, no matter how you look at it and no matter how you slice it, fact is and REMAINS you have ABSOLUTELY no legit excuse for an ‘unwanted pregnancy’!! FACT is, you cannot get pregnant if you don’t have sex. Darn those “facts” …they’re such stubborn things!
sparky6025 2 weeks ago
As long as there are murderers around, no. How does a murderer make him/herself not a murderer? Simple. Just redefine the act at whim and call it something else ...like "pro choice" or "abortion." Where there is no moral law, there can be no moral lawbreaker. Remove any semblance of moral absolutes and you are left with nothing more than relativism where objective truth becomes the subjective whim of personal opinion …no longer objective.
sparky6025 1 month ago
@geezusispan …MASSIVE SCAM which is almost always tied directly to the EQUALLY FALLACIOUS MYTH of man-made global warming! Consider yourself completely debunked once and for all! Also consider yourself left without any delusional and twisted excuses, let alone morally justifiable excuses, to demand rights to deliberately take the life of any other innocent human beings.
sparky6025 2 months ago
@geezusispan …40,138 people per Sq mile! People in Union City live just fine. Denmark, Greenland, Iceland & Nambia, etc., are all vastly under populated …and so on …and so on! In short, if it is too CROWDED where you live, then MOVE! Overpopulation is an OBVIOUS myth! Of all the myths perpetuated by communist-socialist secular humanist elites, overpopulation is by far the easiest to debunk! A 10 yr. old could debunk it with nothing more than a pencil, paper & common sense! It’s a…
sparky6025 2 months ago
@geezusispan …acres of temperate rain forest timber!) Canada is number 10 in the 2011-12 top-ten least densely populated counties in the world with extensive stretches of empty habitable land. Worldwide current estimates make Western Sahara & Mongolia the first and second least populated respectively. Mongolia alone averages out to less than 4 people per Sq. mile (only 2.5 million people occupy over 600,000 square miles of land!). Contrast that with Union City, New Jersey (US) with…
sparky6025 2 months ago
@geezusispan …populated with a mere estimated 600,000 population total for a vast 97, 818 Sq. miles (that‘s a mere 5.85 people per Sq. mile; DO THE MATH)! Alaska, with a vast 663.268 Sq. miles of territory is the number one least densely populated US state, and holds the top 12 least populated cities in the US with a mere 1.264 people per Sq. mile! Alaska alone also contains the two largest timbered national forests in the US (the Tongass National Forest Alaska, the largest, has 17 million…
sparky6025 2 months ago
@geezusispan …which averages out to a mere 6.7 people per Sq. mile!! Anyone who claims overpopulation has obviously never been to, or is ignorant of, Montana, Wyoming, Idaho, Oregon, North & South Dakota, Nebraska, Nevada, Kansas, Texas, Arizona, Utah, New Mexico, or Alaska -just to name a few locations in the US alone!- in which hundreds of thousands of square miles of land are open, uninhabited, and easily habitable! Wyoming is the tenth largest state in the US and the second least …
sparky6025 2 months ago
@geezusispan …miles (7,617,930 Sq. km) free of people, BUT THE REMAINDER OF THE ENTIRE LIVABLE LAND MASS OF THE REST OF THE WORLD UNPOPULATED!! Do the SIMPLE math! This FACT could not be more WELL KNOWN! What ROCK on which PLANET did you say you crawled out from under? Australia itself has a total of 2,941,299 Sq. miles of land (most all of which is habitable) with a current estimated population of 22,808,408, …
sparky6025 2 months ago
@geezusispan …FACTS for you -the lab rat- to chew on: The UN estimate of total global population was just announced at 7 billion. The US Census Bureau estimates it at 6.985 billion. That ENTIRE UN population estimate of 7 billion could fit inside and be easily accommodated within the 715,309 Sq. mile (1,852,642 Sq. km) Land Area of Queensland, Australia ALONE, each with enough land for a home & small sustenance garden or animal farm, leaving NOT ONLY the rest of Australia’s 2,941,299 Sq. …
sparky6025 2 months ago
@geezusispan Thanks to you it occurred to me the depth & extent to which a human can be dumbed-down. You would have made Freud, Huxley, Goebbels, Hitler, Neitzsche, and the like, PROUD …like a lab rat pecking at the feeder-bar imprisoned in a little cage you are entirely oblivious to!! Overpopulation is easily exposed and debunked for what it actually is; a delusional myth parroted by those heavily indoctrinated with the atheistic secular humanist religion -JUST LIKE YOU! Some quick …
sparky6025 2 months ago
I hate kids
CBRRoss 2 months ago
I am still pro abortion
CBRRoss 2 months ago
@CBRRoss Well I guess the world will never rid itself of murder.
141TuckerRvB117 1 month ago in playlist The Silent Scream Playlist / Parts 1 2 3 4 5 / Complete
@CBRRoss
You were once a kid
5Mariner 1 month ago
@geezusispan, …‘must go,’ who better than your narcissistic ilk? Put up …or shut up! Again, I thank you in advance for sacrificing yourself for the myth of overpopulation …and adios.
sparky6025 2 months ago
@geezusispan, …human life by abortion murder -or any other kind of murder- to reduce said fallacious overpopulation to begin with. If you insist it’s justified, I invite you once again to do all us sane people a favor & eliminate yourself first, & don’t forget to take with you all those many like-minded demented secular humanist tyrants I listed below. If there was any logical truth to overpopulation, eliminating you and your kind will help relieve said fallacious overpopulation. If some...
sparky6025 2 months ago
@geezusispan, Two words, dumbed down. Three more words, exponential natural death. Exponential growth has been occurring with the human race since it began with 8 persons some 6000 yrs ago. Ergo, it took 6k years to reach the current population of 7 billion. And the earth could easily accommodate another 14 billion. In any case, 1) the fallacy of overpopulation remains just that, a myth; 2) the myth of overpopulation doesn’t and cannot morally justify the deliberate taking of innocent…
sparky6025 2 months ago
Week eleven:
By now your baby might measure about 2 inches (50 millimeters) long from crown to rump and weigh almost 1/3 ounce (8 grams). source: .mayoclinic(dot)com
geezusispan 2 months ago
This film was proven to be a false manipulation way back in the 20th century.
A debunking of Silent Scream.
1. Although primitive respirations do occur in the later stages of gestation, crying or screaming can't occur until the third trimester.
2. Without a cerebal cortex, pain impulses can not be received or preceived.
3.The fetus in the movie is bigger than it should be at 12 weeks.
4. The fetuses that they show in containers might be still births and are too large to be 12 weeks.
geezusispan 2 months ago
@geezusispan Are you also a Holocauste denyer
5Mariner 4 days ago
@geezusispan, …Thomas Robert Malthus (Malthusians), etc., and all the other many racists, eugenicists, and social control engineers out there.
I thank you in advance for going first & reducing the fallacious man-made burdens of overpopulation.
sparky6025 2 months ago
@sparky6025
Two words, exponential growth. Now go and learn my child....
geezusispan 2 months ago
@geezusispan, … Ted Turner, Henry Kissinger, the Rockefellers, the Carnegie family, Jacques Cousteau, Merton Lambert, Paul Ehrlich, Bertrand Russell, Julian & Aldous Huxley, David Brower, Barbara Marx Hubbard, Alexander King, Bertrand Schneider, Robert McNamara, etc., etc., and of course, all the brainwashed dumbed-down crack-smoking & Kool Aid drinking disciples of Margaret Sanger, Charles Darwin & cousin Francis Galton (father of racist death eugenics),...
sparky6025 2 months ago
@geezusispan, …incapable of either critical thinking or free thought. Garbage in, garbage out. If you really believe the overpopulation myth, perhaps you and all those of like mind should do humanity & the world a favor and eliminate yourselves thus reducing the population for the benefit of the earth and those of us who don’t accept this globalist NWO fallacy or their many other voodoo-pseudo-science socialist control agendas. Please don’t forget to take Prince Phillip, Bill Gates,...
sparky6025 2 months ago
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@geezusispan, …from the planet in 200 years?” Yea, that would be a “a childish idea” … if that was anything even remotely close to what I actually claimed. Overpopulation is pure myth; just another in a long line of absurd fallacies perpetuated by socialist secular humanist atheists and evolutionists, like the flat earth myth, the man-made global warming myth, and the Big Bang evolution myth (just to name a few), believed only by the heavily indoctrinated dumbed-down sheeple who are...
sparky6025 2 months ago
@geezusispan, I see you are back to argue some more mind numbing brain-dead logical fallacies. What’s the matter, couldn’t you resist vomiting some more? My English is fine …I’m well versed in it. The real question is, did you learn English? If so, you’re not very efficient in it as you didn’t understand what I said, and thus, took it entirely out of context & twisted it around (as retards habitually do) to mean what you wanted. “So you believe that abortion is going to eliminate humans…
sparky6025 2 months ago
@ boteegay, …as ‘good’ as yours, and they have the potential to have lives even better than yours; so why would you make them suffer so you can have a good life? Yes life is good.
sparky6025 2 months ago
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@ boteegay, You do hopefully realize the insane hypocrisy and absurdity of your argument don’t you? You are literally arguing that to eliminate the suffering of some, we should intentionally cause the suffering of others! Madness! But you are free to go first at any time. You say: “unfortunately people like you make others suffer their whole life just because you believe "live is good"“ I do not such thing. In fact, I claim and advocate precisely the opposite. Their lives are just...
sparky6025 2 months ago
@ boteegay, …what it will look like in 200 yrs. By then you will have abortion murder slaughtered each other en masse in a brainless, consciousness, and delusional survival of the fittest “dog eat dog” vicious circle of genocide, eliminating yourselves.
sparky6025 2 months ago
@sparky6025 Where did you learn English? You should go back to class and study, some more.
So you believe that abortion is going to eliminate humans from the planet in 200 years?
What a childish idea. Abortion is legally available to the majority of women right now and yet, the population grows by 134,000,000 per YEAR! Unfortunately OVER population is the real threat.
geezusispan 2 months ago
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@ boteegay, says: “unfortunately world gets more and more stupid…” Yes it does “get more and more stupid.” You are living proof of this obvious fact. Perhaps you should have been abortion murdered and the world would be one less “stupid.” “…i don't wanna imagine how the world's gonna look like in 200 years“ Don’t worry, fortunately for the rest of us sane, smart, conscious, and loving people, all you brainless, delusional, conscious less, and hate filled people won’t have to see...
sparky6025 2 months ago
@ boteegay, No I don’t “prefer” seeing a child suffering. Speak arrogantly for yourself! … regardless of which language is your mother tongue. Let’s get the facts strait: It is you who “prefer” the suffering of children by arguing for the abortion murder suffering of innocent children, not me. That “fetus” (Latin for “offspring,” or ‘little one’) IS A human being by whatever name or label you call it.
sparky6025 2 months ago
@ boteegay, You say: “by not making the abortion maybe you take the chance to another soul to live a much more happier life in it's place ... what do you say about it?” I say maybe any one of the billions of genocide abortion murdered could have just as likely also lived a happy life. I have arbitrarily decided you and those like you are not viable and should be aborted en masse, so the rest of us can live happy lives. That is your ludicrous insane argument turned around on you.
sparky6025 2 months ago
@ boteegay, says: “sorry i have to say it, but you are absolutely brainless and delusional.” No you are not sorry; who are you trying to fool? Why feign sorrow? It makes you disingenuous from the get-go. Yes, life is full of suffering -including the suffering that literally billions of abortion murdered children have gone through. And there is not one single instance of suffering that we don‘t already have the power and means to easily and entirely eliminate off this planet.
sparky6025 2 months ago
@geezusispan, …yourself out of your misery? I recommend you use a vacuum cleaner, some big tongs, and a big jar! Oh wait! …never mind! Apparently that’s how you became so severely damaged to begin with …a failed abortion murder attempt that left you lunatic!
sparky6025 2 months ago
@geezusispan, …don’t even believe in to ‘bless’ your deliberate desire to take the life of another innocent human being!! That says it all! Oh the hypocrisy! …ludicrous! …delusional insanity! …schizophrenia! …pure rabid foaming at the mouth basket-weaving strait-jacket madness!! Who’s really ‘delusional’? The only place where abortion murder is not the deliberate taking of another innocent human life is in what’s left of your scrambled & fermented mind. Do yourself a favor and put…
sparky6025 2 months ago
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@geezusispan, “Do you live in the US?” Yes. “Isn't it great that women have the reproductive freedom to choose abortion if they don't want to give birth?” No. It is not great women have the freedom to choose to deliberately and intentionally take the life of another innocent helpless human being -no more than it was ‘great’ another person could once legally own slaves and treat them as they wanted in the US. “God bless america, the land of safe and legal abortions” Calling on a God you…
sparky6025 2 months ago
@geezusispan, Yes I know what constitutes the deliberate premeditated taking of another innocent human life. So do you and every ‘government’ and person of the world, whether it’s admitted, or they remain willingly ignorant (dumb on purpose). Why would you ‘bow’ to anyone like a willingly ignorant slave? Your delusional disorder is also a benefit for being a good faithful little atheist fluke of the universe.
sparky6025 2 months ago
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The size of the ultrasound image and of the fetus model used was also misleading, appearing to show a fetus the size of a full-term baby, while in actuality a twelve-week-old fetus is under two inches long.
geezusispan 2 months ago
@geezusispan don't bother, go and read something instead of posting intelligent things on youtube... they don't understand it anyway. you stated it right, this video is lying to the ignorant and uneducated population. and even if you tell them they are being lied, they state "but you take an innocent life" what actually doesn't represent an argument against the fact that this video is a lie. cheers, and happy new year. i'm glad there are still intelligent people out there in this world
boteegay 2 months ago
Fetal development experts argued that, contrary to Nathanson's assertion in the film, a fetus cannot perceive danger or make purposeful movements. David Bodian, a neurobiologist at Johns Hopkins School of Medicine, stated that doctors had no evidence that a twelve-week-old fetus could feel pain, but noted the possibility of a reflex movement by a fetus in response to external stimuli such as surgical instruments. cont -
geezusispan 2 months ago
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noting that "the fetus spends lots of time with its mouth open", that the "scream" may have been a yawn, and also that "mouth" identified on the blurry ultrasound in the film may in fact have been the space between the fetal chin and chest.
geezusispan 2 months ago
John Hobbins of the Yale School of Medicine called the film's use of special effects deceptive, a form of "technical flimflam." He pointed out that the film of the ultrasound is initially run at slow speed, but that it is sped up when surgical instruments are introduced to give the impression that "the fetus is thrashing about in alarm." Hobbins questioned the titular "scream", cont
geezusispan 2 months ago
@geezusispan says, “Even in countries where abortion is illegal, the women are not charged with murder” More non sequitur logical fallacy. Whether they are actually charged by the powers that be with the taking of another life or not, is irrelevant; life was still maliciously, premeditatedly, and deliberately taken. The Nazis mass murdered some 11 million people and didn’t break one single German law.
sparky6025 2 months ago
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In every country in the world, no matter if abortion is legal or illegal it is NEVER called murder. You say it is murder. I guess YOU must be right...... you and twelve other religiotards... hahahah
geezusispan 2 months ago
@geezusispan …“hahahah” is this the best you can come up with? Honestly, are 7 years old? Still playing your little cutesie semantics game eh? More equivocation logical fallacy. “Avoid the truth at all costs” appears to be your motto. Whether or not ANY country in the world ever calls it “murder” is entirely irrelevant. It is still the deliberate premeditated taking of another living human beings life. Call it or don’t call it whatever you wish to ease your reprobate conscience; this...
sparky6025 2 months ago
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geezusispan 2 months ago
@geezusispan …truth still remains absolute truth. You are typical of the disciples of atheist evotard religion. Mind ‘mother nature’ -your god of the gaps- lest she smite thee by abortion.
sparky6025 2 months ago
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@sparky6025 said - …truth still remains absolute truth. You are typical of the disciples of atheist evotard religion. Mind ‘mother nature’ -your god of the gaps- lest she smite thee by abortion.
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Absolute truth, that's in math and some physics, as far as we know. Your book of mythology has none..... Since I'm a born person, it's impossible for me to be aborted.
geezusispan 2 months ago
@geezusispan I've looked up the movie and I'm not surprised to see that the only people who are displeased about the movie are the pro-abortionists like you
5Mariner 7 hours ago
@geezusispan …(Macmillian Dictionary online). What woman who has aborted a living human child did not do so deliberately? None. Abortion by it’s very nature is the premeditated deliberate malicious taking of another life! Whether it is not admitted and recognized as such by some is irrelevant. “You shall not murder” (Exodus 20:13). “You shall not murder” (Deuteronomy 5:17). …
sparky6025 2 months ago