Krashen and grammar

[WakkoXtreme]

dit video is niet saai, no sir .

[rfwelsh]

I studied French from grade 1 to grade 13 in Ontario. Full immersion. Bilingual Certificate from High School.

It doesn't work. I haven't spoken French in 20 years because I never liked French. Never felt comfortable speaking it. Never fully understood it.

Steve is absolutely right. Grammar based drilling is ineffective. It actually DRIVES people away from the language.

My teachers actually made me believe I could not learn languages. As such, they delayed my progress in Korean.

[rickjones53]

Your Russian is quite good. It is much better to be able to understand, read and not be afraid to speak even if you do make the occasional mistake. Over time these small mistakes are self-correcting.

Russian like Czech is highly inflected and it take a long time to learn how to use all the case and which verbs are tied to which cases.

[piurex22]

Absolutelty right ! No matter if you have an accent when you speak one of the languages you've learnt, the most important thing is to communicate, to be able to listen to radio programs, to read and understand. Good job !

[evelioto]

So, it is not how many languages a person speaks,(I speak 6) it is the communicative approach, If you do not use the languages you forget them, so there are dozens of methods of learning a foreign language and all. All of them include the skeleton of the language (Grammar of course)all of them include the four main skills (listening, speaking, reading and writing)it is absurd and ridiculous pretending to learn a language only by two of the four main skills.

[jonquiere09]

Never commented before, but I wanted to take a moment to do so. I've studied languages for 15 years. I took classes in French and Italian. All are based solely on structure, grammar and grading. What I learned was on my own time. Now, I learn languages by listening to online radio and reading online as well. I am starting Dutch and German now and have been frustrated with the textbook approach that I'm taking.. this video has convinced me to approach them as I do my known languages.Thanks

[loki2504]

你說地對： 要從娛樂中學語言！在學校學語言沒效！

[CommodoreV]

YES, YES, YES! You nailed the nature of progressive language education on the head! After one year of high school Spanish, i dropped the class and took up my own studies that summer. I studied many hours a day, came back, and was met with amazement when I could converse with my Latin American friends.

[Goonersmacedonia]

Welcome

[FlyingFin]

Top video here, great stuff as always steve!

[19fas88]

i think he hit the nail on the head with referencing to history.

6:50

[laoshu505000]

100 stars for this video here.

[zocurtis]

I ran the thread on HTLAL and I was amazed at how some people were treating Moses. Some even said that they like that grammar was shoved down their throat. Grammar is good but not at the beginning. People are usually turned off by it and this was what I was trying to get across to those Keeners.

[AstAMoore]

Man! Fifty thousand words in Russian, eh? Unbelievable. I don't think I know fifty thousand words in Russian. I don't even think there *are* fifty thousand words in Russian.

[ImAlwaysR1ght]

He's probably counting inflected forms.

[AstAMoore]

True that. Still very impressive.

[ImAlwaysR1ght]

Great video. I enjoy just flipping through my Japanese particles book every few days and find one particle i think is fun, and add the example sentence to my SRS, so when I see that particle in native sources, I'll have an understanding of the nuance it provides.

The most fun thing to me, is building a huge vocabulary. The grammar seems to come naturally to me from the Japanese I read and I think of it as a casual way to make the vocabulary flow together.