LOL!!!! That must have been the look I gave my parents when I was kid and they caught me lying red handed. The difference was, I got my ass tore up! It's a damn shame no one pulled out a belt and began dropping lashes all across his bean head... you bald lying, sleazy snake in the grass! Everyone last one of these crooks suddenly forgot how to speak English or answer simple questions. Bastards! Slam the gates and toss out the keys... this is incriminating enough evidence.
@Melanatedone The entire system is corrupted, I'm surprised you haven't figured it out yet. The Supreme Court, federal goverment, most state government, and obviously the elites in the banking, United Nations, and many large corporate CEOs.
"East Coast" liberals portray the south as a haven of corruption,
The fact that a film crew or any one person could place a finger on those boxes should cause those in charge to be removed and an instant investigation.
look at the guilt on their faces they can't even look at her. the corruption runs so deep. why are the normal americans helping the coproatist, globalist elitist bastards sell us out???
true, outside of context it would be humorous. But at the same time it is quite frightening. There are those who arguably say *it doesn't happen*. But? The more appropriate question to ask is, is it really impossible? But when look back at history there is ample evidence that it DOES happen. And by both parties. Repubs vs Repubs, Dems vs Dems, and Rep vs Dems. So no, one can't blame just one sole single party who is at fault. It needs to be addressed.
Watching this vid, and the video about the Texas town hall situation where Ron Paul delegates were refused admittance into the building to vote...I don't even have to say "I wonder", I know the political system in America is broken, and needs a revolution. I am tired of not feeling heard, and I am furious at people who make excuses for the establishment in cases like this, this is an outrage, and true American patriots should be outraged. Our forefathers would be ashamed of us for allowing this
I am right there with you! It's time to get pissed of people and put a stop to this once and for all...March to D.C. when Ron Paul asks us to, then the Media will have no choice but to pay attention and then we will see who's got the true nomination. We have to revolt! Start with the voting...then they may force our hands...
Don't forget to watch the 9-part series titled "Hacking Democracy". Here's part 1 if you're interested:
w ww.youtube.c om/watch?v=GzPXer7946E
Also, if you like, google the "Granny Warriors". They're the brave blue-haired gladiators that fight against election fraud. They're actually really cool...
bion: Well, look, if there has been a complaint filed, then we will see what has occurred as it plays out. I now think there _was_ a "conspiracy" by whatever political faction that wanted to oppose a Ron Paul win over McCain. But it was a conspiracy that used the rules (altho very stupid-sounding rules), as I understand it.
bionic: No one expects evidence here in the comments section. But you should be able to point to evidence presented to an official body, to a law enforcement person, to any investigative body. The problem is, if one proceeds from an a priori view that a conspiracy is happening, then it makes telling the difference between valid evidence and sneaking suspicion much more difficult.
Well, the concept of "a priori" needs elaboration...in any police investigation which is NOT exact science, you must start out with what law enforcement refers to as a "theory of the case" which might be considered "a priori" but is in fact based on known facts of human nature and therefor not truly "a priori" even if proven invalid in any given case---but I see your point. Anyway, as we speak there is a bona fide legal challenge pending in Louisiana---hardly sneaking suspicion.
bio: A clever analysis of what might be called a priori, indeed. But the meaning of a priori first depends on what your purpose is in having a theory of the case. In many criminal investigations, a theory is meant to begin a process of advocacy for one side of the other. A theory becomes a sales tool. I'm referring (of course) to a theory that undercuts an objective analysis by closing off plausible explanations for the data.
bio: In a criminal investigation (one in which much is unknown), detectives may miss a clue because they have preconceived notions (esp. ones based on "human nature"). A good police investigation leaves the door open for alternative explanations for the data (the facts of the case). And as for Louisiana, are you talking about the recent dust-up about Ron Paul and the "uncommitted slate," etc.? Because I can't find anything else, and that thing looks like a complete screw-up by the GOP.
"Incompetence"?...You know, even a broken clock is right twice a day: seems to me that the American people, both during presidential elections and at all other times are miraculously repetitive victims of such feats of "incompetence" that fly in the face of the laws of probability to the extent of astronomical figures. This is not a college frat prank...were talking about mishandling of items that could cost us four years in Hell.
bionic: But in the case of the Louisiana situation, it had little to do with any sort of real vote counting problem, as I recall. In the Louisiana case, I'm guessing the rules need reexamination. They sound a bit screwy to me. If voter fraud is all that prevalent, there should be at least one case where there is clear and convincing evidence that a fraud actually was planned and then occurred. As to astronomical probability, people _constantly_ and predictably make mistakes.
bio: That Louisiana thing is like a perfect example of what I'm talking about -- what you have there is incompetence and people covering up in order not to look foolish. Apparently, McCain supporters figured out what RP supporters were going to do, and then arranged for some sort of ruse. And the GOP allowed them to do it? But this is not classic vote fraud, this is election wheeling and dealing without much in the way of secrecy. Not much of a conspiracy, lol!
It had to do with so-called "provisional votes" and reportedly gross "failure" of the gopster caucus down there to abide by their own rules and regs...and as re "conspiracy" it is known that conspiracies may be hard to prove---that in no way means they don't exist. A conspiracy can constitute no more than an agreement between two people to engage in a criminal act---and I see nothing in the definition that requires it to be sub rosa either.
SOS Gardner looks like he's completely out of it all the time, like he just came to this planet and can't figure out what the hell people are saying or doing.
I get the biggest yuk out of people on the Tube who demand "evidence" as if anything remotely akin to even mildly prima facie evidence could be presented in the paltry 500 characters that our First Amendment rights are rationed out to us by the Tube. The best we can do is site authors and literary references and that is it---you want proof of abject voter fraud? Contact harry martin of the NAPA SENTINEL. He's got mountains of it. And he's by no means the only one.
The secretary of state is CREEPY. This makes me SICK. What the hell is wrong with people? The arrogance of "Butch and Hoppy" make me want to kick their asses. Is this where we are as a country? White, suburban douchebags doing some political power broker's dirty work, and all we can do is film it, cuz amorality is the norm in government. All politicians are crooked, right? "Use morality to get elected, not govern" is their mantra. Freakin' PISSED, I am.
3shiftgtr: Not sure what you think is creepy. Not sure what makes you sick. Not sure who Butch and Hoppy are. I don't know where we are as a country. Who are white suburban douchebags, and what is wrong with being white and suburban? Where is the amorality? After having read and re-read your comment, I have no idea what you think about anything.
I think that what you see here is bureaucratic arrogance personified. Gardner never answers why the procedure change He just stands there all bug eyed and says that the ballots are secure. WHY WON'T HE ANSWER? The only reason a person deflects a question numerous times like that is because THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW THE ANSWER. Video grandstanding? Maybe. I'm not seeing where any unscrupulous video edits were made. But I mad cuz they are not his ballots! She deserved an answer!
3shiftgtr: Looks like these guys were taken by surprise. That fact, and the fact they are probably nice guys is what caused them to put up with the questioner. I cannot even imagine in my wildest dreams why you believe he is obligated to give an answer to anyone except an official elections person. Why do you accord this woman some sort of official status? If she had actually wanted to get involved in monitoring and oversight of the elections process,
I don't afford her official status. The ballots belong to the people. AS A CITIZEN, she deserved an answer. And taken by suprise? HE'S THE SECRETARY OF STATE OF NEW HAMPSHIRE! He's there to do his job. Part of that is to get his picture taken. Did he not notice the camera?
3shif: Part of that is to get his picture taken. You, in collusion with this freak, are interfering with the proper disposition of the duties of an election official. Screw you and your vaunted views of what elected officials are supposed to put up with.
I was not there. Neither were you. You see it one way I see it another. And now it's "screw you."? Back up, junior. No one is saying a fraud was committed, no one broke the law as far as we know. I never ripped on YOU. I presented an opposing point of view. In each post you insult me rather than answer WHY THEY DID NOT ANSWER THE QUESTION DIRECTLY? You just make excuses for them. Then you spit at me and argue. Vaunted views my ass. Have you ever been an election official? I'm done.
sk8kipsw: It's still screw you, pal. I'm to back up? Up yours, and for very very good reason. You're in here, making all sorts of groundless charges, impugning people's reputations, making vague suggestions about physical violence towards others, and _I_ am the one who is supposed to back off. Again, you said it yourself, you see it one way, I see it another. If that is the case, has it occurred to you that all you've got are suspicions? No one whatever is obligated to answer _anything_ at all.
sk8kipsw: You've started with a conspiracy theory viewpoint, and you want it confirmed, and you're willing to say you would like to attack someone physically based on not being there. Keep in mind, this incident has never been reported to anyone. There's a good reason for that. It's meaningless. However, there _is_ some danger from fraud when electronic voting machines are in use. That is the one place where some degree of suspicion is warranted.
3shiftgtr: (2) she could have approached the folks who make those arrangements. Her behavior had nothing to do with unearthing wrongdoing and everything to do with her own view of herself as a hotshot. You can spot a conspiracy theorist a mile away; they never try to work things out with officials - they try to put someone on the spot. And of course, in this case, it worked - these guys didn't know quite what to think.
Have you ever caught someone in a lie? Did you "work it out" with them? It has everything to do with unearthing wrongdoing because she is asking questions that have simple answers. In all your posts you defend these guys by saying that they were suprised and tired. You don't get to be the Sec. of State in New Hampshire by not knowing that your are accountable for the perceptions of your actions. It is encoded in the DNA of the job. They are OBFUSCATING in reply.
They are only obfuscating because you've decided they are obfuscating. Please note that there is no official investigation of anything, because there is no evidence of wrongdoing. There was, by you, an expectation that there was wrongdoing before the fact of the confrontation and then this damn fool and all of her sycophants, merely fill in the blanks to derive their wished-for conclusion. How dumb.
3shiftgtr: (3) Please note she did absolutely nothing about complaining, writing a letter, or doing anything to let officials know about any of this; that would have been cooperative and helpful. No, this is all about building her rep as some sort of investigative documentarian or something. Disgusting.
Also, does the idea of election fraud piss you off? It should. Committing election fraud takes organization, money, and manpower. It's ACCEPTED the same way driving 60 in a 55 is. Sociologists call than an erosion of "structure morality." Amorality, often cloaked in ambition and greed, is the personal value structure that allows people to do this stuff. And any white, suburbanit that commits election fraud is a white,suburban douchebag.
3shiftgtr: Before you warp into hyperspace about amorality, and its waning in our society, we'd better have evidence of some wrongdoing first. As an example, if there is a law against leaving your ballots in a secure room instead of hefting the stuff into a vault, then they have broken the law.
3shiftgtr: However, what they were really doing is being tired, and deciding that the ballots would be safe in the room (which of course they were). You've got to have at least some sort of official inquiry before you can claim fraud. There's gotta be a recognition by some sort of officialdom that a regulation or law has been broke or something.
How do you know they were tired? I'd have bought that. But you're assuming. No one claims fraud here. They raise a question, and it doesn't get answered. Here's the discussion: A:Why? B: They're safe. A:No they aren't. B:Yes they are. A:Here's some problems. B:They're safe.A:What about the problems? B:They're safe.A:Anyone can get in. B:(long stare) A:why won't you answer my question B:I have. They're safe. Why don't you want an answer? Or is their authority enough.
And one more thing! Are you a journalist? Mainstream media is certainly not held to the informational standards of 50 years ago. Look at the fact presented independent of said media: Gardner did not answer the question. He offered arguement."The reason for not securing the ballots in the safe is..." "Because the ballots are secure." Never said how or why. He's the Secretary of State of New Hampshire. He's there to get his picture taken. She outsmarted him. He got caught! Wake up!
3shiftgtr: This has nothing to do with MSM, and little to do with NH's Secy of State. The Secy of State trusts the people doing the manual work of executing and overseeing the vote counting. Can't you understand this simple thing: They didn't put the boxes in the vault because it was late and they were tired. Mistakes happen and a mistake is not fraud. And so this opportunist manages to get a public official to be defensive about making an error. You should be very proud of yourself.
Little to do with it? Then why was he there? IT'S CALLED A PHOTO OP. She asked why, when the networks were there they put them in a vault, and tonight they don't. No one says they are tired and want to go home. It has everything to do do with the fact that they are not network. Tired? puhleez. Do your job. I've been on an election oversight committee. It ain't that hard. And no Secretary of State in sight.
3shif: How convenient for you to compare another situation with your own situation. How convenient for you to compare behavior with and without network people present. Or with and without a Secy of state present. You are the essence of CT baloney!!
i think these guys are just doing their job bev. and bev why didnt you have john paul supporters outside that building overnight ,with video cameras?you should be more organised
yes thats true i suppose.but we the people have to take a new stand.its called get organised.just wait till the elections start.then what?bev did ok but 1 riding doesnt change the total outcome.people have to watch all the ballets everywhere.and count the people voting at each location...peace to u
Oh, I agree with that. I just don't agree that these officials are doing their job. I've seen the other videos, like the one where the official pretends he can't fit a pen into one of the box slits... and then one of the watchers sticks her whole hand in.
Actually they could be doing their job... just not the one serving the people. I doubt they're doing this on their own, they're not good at it.
hey look i mean you no disrespect ok?but dont call me names.i did nothing wrong to you.we are family .i just hope usa has a fair election...thats all...ok?peace to you
See the previous video where she walks directly up to box that was labeled by a "town clerk" and she peels it off. This is BS and I can't believe we stand for crap like this. We should be ashamed that our gov't has run this far out of control and is accountable to no one.
I'm glad most people that watch this will be smart enough to understand that the guy just didn't push the sticker down on the box hard enough to make it stick.
We live in a corrupt country people. Plain and simple, this country is ran by evil, and wicked people for the most part. Want to eliminate corruption? Easy, just make it illegal for ANY elected official to have ANY income other than that directly from their office. No investments, no bribes, no gifts, no deals, nada, ziltch, zitch. See how many people run for office then.
Will add that Ron Paul's campaign has challenged the "changing of procedure" in Louisana, but the Louisiana GOP may be so corrupt it might not do any good.
Those guys were caught and you can tell from their expressions. I love how the guy put the piece of paper over the door... he was trying to show that the ballots were safe. But if he truly wanted them to be safe why not just put them in the vault?If there is no safety concern why put the piece of paper there in the first place. Very guilty demeanor if you ask me.
ewilk: One can only hope that you are not sitting in a jury box any time soon. Can you really tell from their expressions? If their expressions are ones of some nervousness, it is only because they believe the votes might not be safe _because of the interference of the so-called patriot_. As to "if he truly wanted them to be safe . ," why put them in the vault if they know they will be safe where they are?
ewilk: It is certainly possible that the interrogation from this fool disconcerted these guys. Congratulations! The voting mechanism is in the hands of ordinary citizens all over the country. How about, unless you have something substantial on which to base an opinion, you conspiracy theorists let them do their damn job.
jypsye: I know it is difficult for you to grasp the concept. But why is he obligated to answer any questions at all? That guy may have been doing the voting thing for 20 years without incident, and all of a sudden he is being accused of being somehow dishonest without a shred of evidence. If the bad guys want to tamper with the ballots, they're not going to worry about whether they are in a vault or not, lol.
patsa: I think election oversight and monitoring is important. No doubt there have been abuses. However, the kind of gotcha crap we're seeing in this vid has little to do with election fraud and everything to do with opportunistic journalism. What's worse, the poor guy in question may tell the election folks to get someone else next time, if they can't protect him from the moonbats, lol.
lol, it is so sad to read the comments in here. There are commonplace procedures all across the country that have been used for years. Unfortunately, there are people who see a conspiracy behind every door. As to the janitor, the reason why it's okay for the janitor to come in is because these guys _know_ the goddamn janitor. If there is a conspiracy afoot, worrying about "vaults" isn't going to make any difference at all. This "expose" proves nothing except that the exposer is an idiot.
z8it: Apparently, you're having trouble with the concept. If there is ballot box cheating going on, in which there are serious attempts to rig an election (not just a couple honest mistakes), this is not how it will be done. The charge that I'm a sheep unfortunately is undercut by the fact that I'm probably more interested in preventing vote fraud than you are. I just don't like going about it like an an idiot.
I was pissed. I understand that the unsecure MS access backdoor to Diebold machines is a much bigger problem. (Ohio?)
But you've got to admit that the American people become alerted and conscious of corruption by their preception; and the perception created by these bumbling, criminal idiots is priceless.
z8it: The idea that Diebold people can just come in and fiddle with a machine without oversight troubles me. On the other hand, someone absolutely _must_ come up with a specific instance of fraud by that method, or a confession of sorts from a former Diebold employee, before I am gonna' believe that there is anything to worry about there.
z8it: I disagree completely that these guys are in any way criminal or stupid. They're simply doing their job the best way they know how. There is no "infallibly trustworthy" group or person anywhere. Ordinary citizens have been managing the voting process for a long time.
If you watched this video and you are not even suspicious that these guys are both criminal and stupid in their behavior, when asked rational, logical, obvious questions.
z8it: As to your comment, "What oversight?" I said as straightforwardly as possible in the previous comment that lack of oversight seemed not a good idea. What on Earth gives you the idea that these guys need to respond to the interference of this grandstander playing gotcha with a videocamera?? If someone has a suspicion about the way the ballots are being handled, there are ways in which he or she needs to bring that to the attention of the election authorities.
z8it: Enough already. When you get word that these bad guys are the subject of an investigation, you just let me know. The woman is not patriotic at all. She's a useless showboat. Goodby.
there are "ways"?...like what? Write a letter to the Secretary of State so he can sit on his thumb like the one in Californicate? Ballot fraud is demonstrably pandemic in America with some local tripe sheets reporting the election results sometimes eight hours before the polls close. "Private citizens just doing their duty"...yeah, just committing treason, hell, that's all.
bionic: As to "ballot fraud is demonstrably pandemic," please provide evidence of any kind for your statement. A few isolated instances are not a "pandemic." The best I can find of a credible conspiracy site is at electiondefensealliance dot org, in which exit polls are compared against vote count. But exit polls can be systematically compromised because they don't interview everyone. Even so, no one is arguing that elections shouldn't be watched more closely.
Yes, far more closely than they have been thus far and no, we are not talking about a "few isolated incidents" which should be punished by at least four years stir by Cal State law but of course never are...and based on the orographic evidence compiled by devi Kidd who ran for congress and for whom I have no more use than you do for the scooby doo types in this vid, she nonetheless compiled a most compelling case for PANDEMIC voter fraud in this country.
bionic: Of course, when I refer to evidence, I'm referring to someone who presents their case in front of a congressional panel. The absence of prison terms is due to a lack of evidence that anyone intentionally committed a fraud. There are suspicions because of disparities between exit polls and vote counts. But even in those cases, it is almost impossible to pull off a voter fraud deal on a widespread basis without getting caught.
bionic: (2) As to "reporting before polls close," huh? Evidence for this? As to "private citizens doing their duty," yes, private citizens doing their duty. Please provide evidence of wrongdoing. Without any sort of evidence of foul play, over thousands of ballots, your accusation are those of a cowardly fool who can sit at his keyboard and throw stones with impunity. You really ought to be ashamed of yourself.
"cowardly"? I've stood up to fat salaried self-serving bureaucrats in and out of court and I sure as hell wasn't hiding behind any god damned fucking keyboard, my fine feathered St. Nowehere---you haven't the brass clad bowel tract to call me a coward. Evidence of pandemic ballot fraud is oro0graphic and it's already on the Tube even if you yourself are too invertebrate to face it. And yes, during Napa County's Flood Plan A the local tripe sheet, Napa Register did just that.
bionic: Well, congrats, now we know that you consider "standing up to bureaucrats" as evidence of something. And you continue to make the same mistake. You can't imagine evidence into existence; you have to make a real case! You can't just point me to various conspiracy theorists, you must have real sources. Do you imagine that you are all alone in your concerns? Of COURSE people are concerned, but running around pointing cameras at precinct workers is not the way to accomplish anything.
z8it: "You're trying my patience." Lol, listen you childish jackass conspiracy theorist, do not comment back unless you have some solid evidence of wrongdoing. For one, you can be more specific about why these fellows are stupid or criminal. What in the hell do you expect them to say? If you want to continue the conversation, ditch the snarky-ass commentary.
After seeing this i guess we should just give up and get on with life. It's much better if you just don't pay attention, because it's even worse if you're smart enough to know there is nothing you can do about it.
I would pitch a tent and camp out...if they are safe ...then we'lll stay here and watch...surely there are enough voluteers to stay the watch over night...or as long as it takes! This guy had a stare that was absolute evil found out!
The fight for freedom has only just started. But I am very positive so far. All my life Ive had a sign hanging on my refrigiator saying "I'll never give up, I could be right".
Ha. Just look at these peoples faces. Caught in the ACT. They don't even have a good defence agrument. The US election are going to be so rigged if the people dont step up and act like these people did. Thanks for your efforts and thanks for the video.
Thank you for letting me attach my video but I am going to remove and place on top viewed and others to point more people to this video... Many other can post this link in forums through out the internet driving traffic to this video...
I linked to this Video from one of my video's I feel it is very important to get this video to as many people as we can... I also think we should have live video feeds online to let We The People Watch over the ballets till and while they are being counted...
they're scared shitless of telling the truth, they have the distinct look of someone who KNOWS they are doing something wrong, but scared not to do it.
The spelling of the state was meant to be incorrect. I hope you caught the meaning. For those that don't I can explain why I i left out the P in New Hampshire. Thanks ckreeder for pointing it out. I hope you caught what I was trying to say. PEACE
And even if it wasn't done on purpose, ckreeder, that is what you chose to comment on when something this controversial is going on right in front of your FUCKING EYES!!!
If this was a bank storing currency for the night, would they just leave it in a room--because the whole building is secure? Or would they place it in the vault? The answer is obvious--the money would go into the vault.
So why aren't ballots treated with the same respect, considering they are the currency of a free democracy?
Meh, no so much, they were the ones who had all the files about the Mossad before 9/11 and their activites in New York and Faux News were the ones who said don't listen to them and took the reports off their website 2 hours after 9/11 happened.
"It's not the people who vote that count. It's the people who count the votes." (Josef Stalin)
freemanx2x 2 weeks ago
That is why i don't vote
googles23m 1 year ago
what about the air conditioning ducts?
the windows?
the "connecting rooms"?
this was a joke
but of course america is a joke always has been always will be!
stameyjd 2 years ago
LOL!!! he wanted to strangle that woman with his bare hand! Man I hope she's still alive.
Melanatedone 2 years ago
LOL!!!! That must have been the look I gave my parents when I was kid and they caught me lying red handed. The difference was, I got my ass tore up! It's a damn shame no one pulled out a belt and began dropping lashes all across his bean head... you bald lying, sleazy snake in the grass! Everyone last one of these crooks suddenly forgot how to speak English or answer simple questions. Bastards! Slam the gates and toss out the keys... this is incriminating enough evidence.
Melanatedone 2 years ago
@Melanatedone The entire system is corrupted, I'm surprised you haven't figured it out yet. The Supreme Court, federal goverment, most state government, and obviously the elites in the banking, United Nations, and many large corporate CEOs.
residentzombie 1 year ago
@residentzombie - truly... I think i figured that out about 20 years ago
Melanatedone 1 year ago
Could this happen in Britain
They look guilty as hell
ENDEUARABIA 2 years ago 2
Those poor uninformed women actually believe that their ballots are sacred and will be counted.
ELECTIONS ARE FIXED!!
BloodTar 2 years ago
If this is for real its a prime example of how things are shot all to hell
937irish 3 years ago
What we really need to investigation are the purported hundreds of thousands of foreign donors in the 2008 Election. Have you investigated that?
McCainDemocrat 3 years ago 2
Funny how so many Hollywood movies and
"East Coast" liberals portray the south as a haven of corruption,
The fact that a film crew or any one person could place a finger on those boxes should cause those in charge to be removed and an instant investigation.
uzijohn 3 years ago
god damnit, i hate people like this...
gardengnome41341 3 years ago
look at the guilt on their faces they can't even look at her. the corruption runs so deep. why are the normal americans helping the coproatist, globalist elitist bastards sell us out???
schwank167 3 years ago 3
hahqahahahahha hahahaha
oh my.. thats funny.. she coulda brought a whole box of votes with her.. or 10 boxes..
American Voting:
"pick your favourite candidate and dump boxes of vote cards at your local booth"
hahahaha
EdgeStormcrow 3 years ago
true, outside of context it would be humorous. But at the same time it is quite frightening. There are those who arguably say *it doesn't happen*. But? The more appropriate question to ask is, is it really impossible? But when look back at history there is ample evidence that it DOES happen. And by both parties. Repubs vs Repubs, Dems vs Dems, and Rep vs Dems. So no, one can't blame just one sole single party who is at fault. It needs to be addressed.
plord28 3 years ago
Right. And let me guess who won the election. Ummmmm....Democrats?
juli54green 3 years ago 3
fucking caught! bastards!
CheeezMaster 3 years ago 4
That's proposterous
phatbob426 3 years ago
They don't know what to say. They're cold busted, & are tongue-tied!
Sickening. It makes my stomach ache.
ShortbusMooner 3 years ago 3
'And the reason for the diffent procedure in securing the ballets iiisss?'
:{}
'...yeah..'
OMFG LOLLLLL!!!
buttmunchers
hhahahahahaaaaaa - secured with..PAPER!! OH NO
icc4444 3 years ago 3
lol that guy has the dumbest face. why is it a diff preceudre? ummmm... dee dee dee i suck a big cock, srry lady cant answer ur question, to stupid
russia21 3 years ago 2
Watching this vid, and the video about the Texas town hall situation where Ron Paul delegates were refused admittance into the building to vote...I don't even have to say "I wonder", I know the political system in America is broken, and needs a revolution. I am tired of not feeling heard, and I am furious at people who make excuses for the establishment in cases like this, this is an outrage, and true American patriots should be outraged. Our forefathers would be ashamed of us for allowing this
kiriaka1972 3 years ago 4
I am right there with you! It's time to get pissed of people and put a stop to this once and for all...March to D.C. when Ron Paul asks us to, then the Media will have no choice but to pay attention and then we will see who's got the true nomination. We have to revolt! Start with the voting...then they may force our hands...
MakingAStand 3 years ago
Sorry, but the media doesn't pay attention to anyone except who the CFR tells them to pay attention to - NO MATTER WHAT!
No video has ever pissed me off more than this one. WHY WAS NO ONE ARRESTED FOR THIS??
0rip0 3 years ago
Thanks for sending this. My generation needs to be informed! Lara
LaraJohnston 4 years ago 2
This realy makes one think.
I hope the work of this BlackBoxVoting folks helps to improve things.
DeletedDelusion 4 years ago
Don't forget to watch the 9-part series titled "Hacking Democracy". Here's part 1 if you're interested:
w ww.youtube.c om/watch?v=GzPXer7946E
Also, if you like, google the "Granny Warriors". They're the brave blue-haired gladiators that fight against election fraud. They're actually really cool...
KobyBrandt 4 years ago
bion: Well, look, if there has been a complaint filed, then we will see what has occurred as it plays out. I now think there _was_ a "conspiracy" by whatever political faction that wanted to oppose a Ron Paul win over McCain. But it was a conspiracy that used the rules (altho very stupid-sounding rules), as I understand it.
nicholas9999 4 years ago
bionic: No one expects evidence here in the comments section. But you should be able to point to evidence presented to an official body, to a law enforcement person, to any investigative body. The problem is, if one proceeds from an a priori view that a conspiracy is happening, then it makes telling the difference between valid evidence and sneaking suspicion much more difficult.
nicholas9999 4 years ago
Well, the concept of "a priori" needs elaboration...in any police investigation which is NOT exact science, you must start out with what law enforcement refers to as a "theory of the case" which might be considered "a priori" but is in fact based on known facts of human nature and therefor not truly "a priori" even if proven invalid in any given case---but I see your point. Anyway, as we speak there is a bona fide legal challenge pending in Louisiana---hardly sneaking suspicion.
bionicmisfit 4 years ago
bio: A clever analysis of what might be called a priori, indeed. But the meaning of a priori first depends on what your purpose is in having a theory of the case. In many criminal investigations, a theory is meant to begin a process of advocacy for one side of the other. A theory becomes a sales tool. I'm referring (of course) to a theory that undercuts an objective analysis by closing off plausible explanations for the data.
nicholas9999 4 years ago
bio: In a criminal investigation (one in which much is unknown), detectives may miss a clue because they have preconceived notions (esp. ones based on "human nature"). A good police investigation leaves the door open for alternative explanations for the data (the facts of the case). And as for Louisiana, are you talking about the recent dust-up about Ron Paul and the "uncommitted slate," etc.? Because I can't find anything else, and that thing looks like a complete screw-up by the GOP.
nicholas9999 4 years ago
"Incompetence"?...You know, even a broken clock is right twice a day: seems to me that the American people, both during presidential elections and at all other times are miraculously repetitive victims of such feats of "incompetence" that fly in the face of the laws of probability to the extent of astronomical figures. This is not a college frat prank...were talking about mishandling of items that could cost us four years in Hell.
bionicmisfit 4 years ago
bionic: But in the case of the Louisiana situation, it had little to do with any sort of real vote counting problem, as I recall. In the Louisiana case, I'm guessing the rules need reexamination. They sound a bit screwy to me. If voter fraud is all that prevalent, there should be at least one case where there is clear and convincing evidence that a fraud actually was planned and then occurred. As to astronomical probability, people _constantly_ and predictably make mistakes.
nicholas9999 4 years ago
bio: That Louisiana thing is like a perfect example of what I'm talking about -- what you have there is incompetence and people covering up in order not to look foolish. Apparently, McCain supporters figured out what RP supporters were going to do, and then arranged for some sort of ruse. And the GOP allowed them to do it? But this is not classic vote fraud, this is election wheeling and dealing without much in the way of secrecy. Not much of a conspiracy, lol!
nicholas9999 4 years ago
It had to do with so-called "provisional votes" and reportedly gross "failure" of the gopster caucus down there to abide by their own rules and regs...and as re "conspiracy" it is known that conspiracies may be hard to prove---that in no way means they don't exist. A conspiracy can constitute no more than an agreement between two people to engage in a criminal act---and I see nothing in the definition that requires it to be sub rosa either.
bionicmisfit 4 years ago
SOS Gardner looks like he's completely out of it all the time, like he just came to this planet and can't figure out what the hell people are saying or doing.
elfroggo0 4 years ago
I get the biggest yuk out of people on the Tube who demand "evidence" as if anything remotely akin to even mildly prima facie evidence could be presented in the paltry 500 characters that our First Amendment rights are rationed out to us by the Tube. The best we can do is site authors and literary references and that is it---you want proof of abject voter fraud? Contact harry martin of the NAPA SENTINEL. He's got mountains of it. And he's by no means the only one.
bionicmisfit 4 years ago
Lets roll.
TheLangolier1939 4 years ago
i have a feeling this is going to end in blood. And no, i'm not a Terrorist.
CrimCheeto 4 years ago 2
The secretary of state is CREEPY. This makes me SICK. What the hell is wrong with people? The arrogance of "Butch and Hoppy" make me want to kick their asses. Is this where we are as a country? White, suburban douchebags doing some political power broker's dirty work, and all we can do is film it, cuz amorality is the norm in government. All politicians are crooked, right? "Use morality to get elected, not govern" is their mantra. Freakin' PISSED, I am.
3shiftgtr 4 years ago
3shiftgtr: Not sure what you think is creepy. Not sure what makes you sick. Not sure who Butch and Hoppy are. I don't know where we are as a country. Who are white suburban douchebags, and what is wrong with being white and suburban? Where is the amorality? After having read and re-read your comment, I have no idea what you think about anything.
nicholas9999 4 years ago
I think that what you see here is bureaucratic arrogance personified. Gardner never answers why the procedure change He just stands there all bug eyed and says that the ballots are secure. WHY WON'T HE ANSWER? The only reason a person deflects a question numerous times like that is because THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW THE ANSWER. Video grandstanding? Maybe. I'm not seeing where any unscrupulous video edits were made. But I mad cuz they are not his ballots! She deserved an answer!
3shiftgtr 4 years ago
3shiftgtr: Looks like these guys were taken by surprise. That fact, and the fact they are probably nice guys is what caused them to put up with the questioner. I cannot even imagine in my wildest dreams why you believe he is obligated to give an answer to anyone except an official elections person. Why do you accord this woman some sort of official status? If she had actually wanted to get involved in monitoring and oversight of the elections process,
nicholas9999 4 years ago
I don't afford her official status. The ballots belong to the people. AS A CITIZEN, she deserved an answer. And taken by suprise? HE'S THE SECRETARY OF STATE OF NEW HAMPSHIRE! He's there to do his job. Part of that is to get his picture taken. Did he not notice the camera?
3shiftgtr 4 years ago
3shif: Part of that is to get his picture taken. You, in collusion with this freak, are interfering with the proper disposition of the duties of an election official. Screw you and your vaunted views of what elected officials are supposed to put up with.
nicholas9999 4 years ago
I was not there. Neither were you. You see it one way I see it another. And now it's "screw you."? Back up, junior. No one is saying a fraud was committed, no one broke the law as far as we know. I never ripped on YOU. I presented an opposing point of view. In each post you insult me rather than answer WHY THEY DID NOT ANSWER THE QUESTION DIRECTLY? You just make excuses for them. Then you spit at me and argue. Vaunted views my ass. Have you ever been an election official? I'm done.
sk8kipsw 4 years ago
Sorry, wrong log in. sk8kipsw is 3shiftgtr as a final reply to nicholas9999.
3shiftgtr 4 years ago
3shift: No problem, and good luck!
nicholas9999 4 years ago
sk8kipsw: It's still screw you, pal. I'm to back up? Up yours, and for very very good reason. You're in here, making all sorts of groundless charges, impugning people's reputations, making vague suggestions about physical violence towards others, and _I_ am the one who is supposed to back off. Again, you said it yourself, you see it one way, I see it another. If that is the case, has it occurred to you that all you've got are suspicions? No one whatever is obligated to answer _anything_ at all.
nicholas9999 4 years ago
sk8kipsw: You've started with a conspiracy theory viewpoint, and you want it confirmed, and you're willing to say you would like to attack someone physically based on not being there. Keep in mind, this incident has never been reported to anyone. There's a good reason for that. It's meaningless. However, there _is_ some danger from fraud when electronic voting machines are in use. That is the one place where some degree of suspicion is warranted.
nicholas9999 4 years ago
3shiftgtr: (2) she could have approached the folks who make those arrangements. Her behavior had nothing to do with unearthing wrongdoing and everything to do with her own view of herself as a hotshot. You can spot a conspiracy theorist a mile away; they never try to work things out with officials - they try to put someone on the spot. And of course, in this case, it worked - these guys didn't know quite what to think.
nicholas9999 4 years ago
Have you ever caught someone in a lie? Did you "work it out" with them? It has everything to do with unearthing wrongdoing because she is asking questions that have simple answers. In all your posts you defend these guys by saying that they were suprised and tired. You don't get to be the Sec. of State in New Hampshire by not knowing that your are accountable for the perceptions of your actions. It is encoded in the DNA of the job. They are OBFUSCATING in reply.
3shiftgtr 4 years ago
3shif: Lol, what a joke!
They are only obfuscating because you've decided they are obfuscating. Please note that there is no official investigation of anything, because there is no evidence of wrongdoing. There was, by you, an expectation that there was wrongdoing before the fact of the confrontation and then this damn fool and all of her sycophants, merely fill in the blanks to derive their wished-for conclusion. How dumb.
nicholas9999 4 years ago
3shiftgtr: (3) Please note she did absolutely nothing about complaining, writing a letter, or doing anything to let officials know about any of this; that would have been cooperative and helpful. No, this is all about building her rep as some sort of investigative documentarian or something. Disgusting.
nicholas9999 4 years ago
Also, does the idea of election fraud piss you off? It should. Committing election fraud takes organization, money, and manpower. It's ACCEPTED the same way driving 60 in a 55 is. Sociologists call than an erosion of "structure morality." Amorality, often cloaked in ambition and greed, is the personal value structure that allows people to do this stuff. And any white, suburbanit that commits election fraud is a white,suburban douchebag.
3shiftgtr 4 years ago
3shiftgtr: Before you warp into hyperspace about amorality, and its waning in our society, we'd better have evidence of some wrongdoing first. As an example, if there is a law against leaving your ballots in a secure room instead of hefting the stuff into a vault, then they have broken the law.
nicholas9999 4 years ago
3shiftgtr: However, what they were really doing is being tired, and deciding that the ballots would be safe in the room (which of course they were). You've got to have at least some sort of official inquiry before you can claim fraud. There's gotta be a recognition by some sort of officialdom that a regulation or law has been broke or something.
nicholas9999 4 years ago
How do you know they were tired? I'd have bought that. But you're assuming. No one claims fraud here. They raise a question, and it doesn't get answered. Here's the discussion: A:Why? B: They're safe. A:No they aren't. B:Yes they are. A:Here's some problems. B:They're safe.A:What about the problems? B:They're safe.A:Anyone can get in. B:(long stare) A:why won't you answer my question B:I have. They're safe. Why don't you want an answer? Or is their authority enough.
3shiftgtr 4 years ago
And one more thing! Are you a journalist? Mainstream media is certainly not held to the informational standards of 50 years ago. Look at the fact presented independent of said media: Gardner did not answer the question. He offered arguement."The reason for not securing the ballots in the safe is..." "Because the ballots are secure." Never said how or why. He's the Secretary of State of New Hampshire. He's there to get his picture taken. She outsmarted him. He got caught! Wake up!
3shiftgtr 4 years ago
3shiftgtr: This has nothing to do with MSM, and little to do with NH's Secy of State. The Secy of State trusts the people doing the manual work of executing and overseeing the vote counting. Can't you understand this simple thing: They didn't put the boxes in the vault because it was late and they were tired. Mistakes happen and a mistake is not fraud. And so this opportunist manages to get a public official to be defensive about making an error. You should be very proud of yourself.
nicholas9999 4 years ago
Little to do with it? Then why was he there? IT'S CALLED A PHOTO OP. She asked why, when the networks were there they put them in a vault, and tonight they don't. No one says they are tired and want to go home. It has everything to do do with the fact that they are not network. Tired? puhleez. Do your job. I've been on an election oversight committee. It ain't that hard. And no Secretary of State in sight.
3shiftgtr 4 years ago
3shif: How convenient for you to compare another situation with your own situation. How convenient for you to compare behavior with and without network people present. Or with and without a Secy of state present. You are the essence of CT baloney!!
nicholas9999 4 years ago
great job
rckbttm14 4 years ago
i think these guys are just doing their job bev. and bev why didnt you have john paul supporters outside that building overnight ,with video cameras?you should be more organised
riverdave7 4 years ago
If they were really doing their job, she wouldn't need the late Pope's supporters or anyone else watching them.
CaptainFrancis 4 years ago
yes thats true i suppose.but we the people have to take a new stand.its called get organised.just wait till the elections start.then what?bev did ok but 1 riding doesnt change the total outcome.people have to watch all the ballets everywhere.and count the people voting at each location...peace to u
riverdave7 4 years ago
Oh, I agree with that. I just don't agree that these officials are doing their job. I've seen the other videos, like the one where the official pretends he can't fit a pen into one of the box slits... and then one of the watchers sticks her whole hand in.
Actually they could be doing their job... just not the one serving the people. I doubt they're doing this on their own, they're not good at it.
Peace to you, also. :)
CaptainFrancis 4 years ago
Hey Einstien!
Who the hell is "john paul"!?!
z8it 4 years ago
ron paul ok?is that clear for you now.you know what i ment
riverdave7 4 years ago
hey look i mean you no disrespect ok?but dont call me names.i did nothing wrong to you.we are family .i just hope usa has a fair election...thats all...ok?peace to you
riverdave7 4 years ago
No justice... No peace.
z8it 4 years ago
OMF these guys are slow ass retards
dmcgl08 4 years ago
"Hard enough to make it stick"
See the previous video where she walks directly up to box that was labeled by a "town clerk" and she peels it off. This is BS and I can't believe we stand for crap like this. We should be ashamed that our gov't has run this far out of control and is accountable to no one.
jesseray05 4 years ago
Rate, comment, favorite, spread this video to everyone you know! This is a direct attack on democracy!
seapoidog 4 years ago
I'm glad most people that watch this will be smart enough to understand that the guy just didn't push the sticker down on the box hard enough to make it stick.
shreddog2049 4 years ago
What a fucking pussy! Just ask the question and stop all the hinting around!
shreddog2049 4 years ago
rate this one to the top -- again!
fagan411 4 years ago
We live in a corrupt country people. Plain and simple, this country is ran by evil, and wicked people for the most part. Want to eliminate corruption? Easy, just make it illegal for ANY elected official to have ANY income other than that directly from their office. No investments, no bribes, no gifts, no deals, nada, ziltch, zitch. See how many people run for office then.
evilwhitey98 4 years ago
You think this is bad -- look at what occurred in Louisiana.
The La caucuses were to officially end 1/10.
But Ron Paul ended up 1st - w/ the most delegates.
The GOP bosses couldn't allow Paul to get 1st in La after finishing 2nd in Nev.
So they extened the deadline to allow other candidates to get delegates.
Now we're in 3rd week after results were to be announced, but they still don't have results like they want, so no report yet.
STOP THE CORRUPTION!
DillonX 4 years ago 3
Will add that Ron Paul's campaign has challenged the "changing of procedure" in Louisana, but the Louisiana GOP may be so corrupt it might not do any good.
DillonX 4 years ago 2
Those guys were caught and you can tell from their expressions. I love how the guy put the piece of paper over the door... he was trying to show that the ballots were safe. But if he truly wanted them to be safe why not just put them in the vault?If there is no safety concern why put the piece of paper there in the first place. Very guilty demeanor if you ask me.
ewilky3333 4 years ago 2
ewilk: One can only hope that you are not sitting in a jury box any time soon. Can you really tell from their expressions? If their expressions are ones of some nervousness, it is only because they believe the votes might not be safe _because of the interference of the so-called patriot_. As to "if he truly wanted them to be safe . ," why put them in the vault if they know they will be safe where they are?
nicholas9999 4 years ago
ewilk: It is certainly possible that the interrogation from this fool disconcerted these guys. Congratulations! The voting mechanism is in the hands of ordinary citizens all over the country. How about, unless you have something substantial on which to base an opinion, you conspiracy theorists let them do their damn job.
nicholas9999 4 years ago
so when are we going to drag motherfuckers like these out in the streets and hold them accountable.
dickdragin 4 years ago 2
wow!
splendidyouth 4 years ago
Thank you Bev Harris!
WolverineInk 4 years ago
That excuse for a state employee never ANSWERED THE QUESTION. WHY THE CHANGE FROM THE VAULT TO LEAVING IT IN A CONVENTIONAL ROOM.
Snake.
JYPSYEYEdotcom 4 years ago
jypsye: I know it is difficult for you to grasp the concept. But why is he obligated to answer any questions at all? That guy may have been doing the voting thing for 20 years without incident, and all of a sudden he is being accused of being somehow dishonest without a shred of evidence. If the bad guys want to tamper with the ballots, they're not going to worry about whether they are in a vault or not, lol.
nicholas9999 4 years ago
Poor guy. It looks like he's never had a run-in with a Ron Paul moonbat before. Something to tell the grandkids about, I guess.
patsagainstrats 4 years ago
patsa: I think election oversight and monitoring is important. No doubt there have been abuses. However, the kind of gotcha crap we're seeing in this vid has little to do with election fraud and everything to do with opportunistic journalism. What's worse, the poor guy in question may tell the election folks to get someone else next time, if they can't protect him from the moonbats, lol.
nicholas9999 4 years ago
The guilty looks on their faces...said it all!
DillonX 4 years ago
lol, it is so sad to read the comments in here. There are commonplace procedures all across the country that have been used for years. Unfortunately, there are people who see a conspiracy behind every door. As to the janitor, the reason why it's okay for the janitor to come in is because these guys _know_ the goddamn janitor. If there is a conspiracy afoot, worrying about "vaults" isn't going to make any difference at all. This "expose" proves nothing except that the exposer is an idiot.
nicholas9999 4 years ago
I guess to a sheep it's really not that BAAaaad; huh?
z8it 4 years ago
z8it: Apparently, you're having trouble with the concept. If there is ballot box cheating going on, in which there are serious attempts to rig an election (not just a couple honest mistakes), this is not how it will be done. The charge that I'm a sheep unfortunately is undercut by the fact that I'm probably more interested in preventing vote fraud than you are. I just don't like going about it like an an idiot.
nicholas9999 4 years ago
O.K. I Appologize for being a jerk.
I was pissed. I understand that the unsecure MS access backdoor to Diebold machines is a much bigger problem. (Ohio?)
But you've got to admit that the American people become alerted and conscious of corruption by their preception; and the perception created by these bumbling, criminal idiots is priceless.
This should have been all over the media.
z8it 4 years ago
z8it: The idea that Diebold people can just come in and fiddle with a machine without oversight troubles me. On the other hand, someone absolutely _must_ come up with a specific instance of fraud by that method, or a confession of sorts from a former Diebold employee, before I am gonna' believe that there is anything to worry about there.
nicholas9999 4 years ago
z8it: I disagree completely that these guys are in any way criminal or stupid. They're simply doing their job the best way they know how. There is no "infallibly trustworthy" group or person anywhere. Ordinary citizens have been managing the voting process for a long time.
nicholas9999 4 years ago
You're trying my patience.
What oversight?!
Thank God for Bev!
If you watched this video and you are not even suspicious that these guys are both criminal and stupid in their behavior, when asked rational, logical, obvious questions.
Then I don't know what to tell you.
z8it 4 years ago
z8it: As to your comment, "What oversight?" I said as straightforwardly as possible in the previous comment that lack of oversight seemed not a good idea. What on Earth gives you the idea that these guys need to respond to the interference of this grandstander playing gotcha with a videocamera?? If someone has a suspicion about the way the ballots are being handled, there are ways in which he or she needs to bring that to the attention of the election authorities.
nicholas9999 4 years ago
Well let's see...
They are PUBLIC SERVANTS and these patriotic women are the concerned PUBLIC. Surely, You can understand that, can't you?
Don't worry those "ways" (actually; it's called the law.) will be followed; and these incompetent, corrupt, morons are going to jail.
z8it 4 years ago 2
z8it: Enough already. When you get word that these bad guys are the subject of an investigation, you just let me know. The woman is not patriotic at all. She's a useless showboat. Goodby.
nicholas9999 4 years ago
Baaaa by.
z8it 4 years ago
there are "ways"?...like what? Write a letter to the Secretary of State so he can sit on his thumb like the one in Californicate? Ballot fraud is demonstrably pandemic in America with some local tripe sheets reporting the election results sometimes eight hours before the polls close. "Private citizens just doing their duty"...yeah, just committing treason, hell, that's all.
bionicmisfit 4 years ago
bionic: As to "ballot fraud is demonstrably pandemic," please provide evidence of any kind for your statement. A few isolated instances are not a "pandemic." The best I can find of a credible conspiracy site is at electiondefensealliance dot org, in which exit polls are compared against vote count. But exit polls can be systematically compromised because they don't interview everyone. Even so, no one is arguing that elections shouldn't be watched more closely.
nicholas9999 4 years ago
Yes, far more closely than they have been thus far and no, we are not talking about a "few isolated incidents" which should be punished by at least four years stir by Cal State law but of course never are...and based on the orographic evidence compiled by devi Kidd who ran for congress and for whom I have no more use than you do for the scooby doo types in this vid, she nonetheless compiled a most compelling case for PANDEMIC voter fraud in this country.
bionicmisfit 4 years ago
bionic: Of course, when I refer to evidence, I'm referring to someone who presents their case in front of a congressional panel. The absence of prison terms is due to a lack of evidence that anyone intentionally committed a fraud. There are suspicions because of disparities between exit polls and vote counts. But even in those cases, it is almost impossible to pull off a voter fraud deal on a widespread basis without getting caught.
nicholas9999 4 years ago
bionic: (2) As to "reporting before polls close," huh? Evidence for this? As to "private citizens doing their duty," yes, private citizens doing their duty. Please provide evidence of wrongdoing. Without any sort of evidence of foul play, over thousands of ballots, your accusation are those of a cowardly fool who can sit at his keyboard and throw stones with impunity. You really ought to be ashamed of yourself.
nicholas9999 4 years ago
"cowardly"? I've stood up to fat salaried self-serving bureaucrats in and out of court and I sure as hell wasn't hiding behind any god damned fucking keyboard, my fine feathered St. Nowehere---you haven't the brass clad bowel tract to call me a coward. Evidence of pandemic ballot fraud is oro0graphic and it's already on the Tube even if you yourself are too invertebrate to face it. And yes, during Napa County's Flood Plan A the local tripe sheet, Napa Register did just that.
bionicmisfit 4 years ago
bionic: Well, congrats, now we know that you consider "standing up to bureaucrats" as evidence of something. And you continue to make the same mistake. You can't imagine evidence into existence; you have to make a real case! You can't just point me to various conspiracy theorists, you must have real sources. Do you imagine that you are all alone in your concerns? Of COURSE people are concerned, but running around pointing cameras at precinct workers is not the way to accomplish anything.
nicholas9999 4 years ago
z8it: "You're trying my patience." Lol, listen you childish jackass conspiracy theorist, do not comment back unless you have some solid evidence of wrongdoing. For one, you can be more specific about why these fellows are stupid or criminal. What in the hell do you expect them to say? If you want to continue the conversation, ditch the snarky-ass commentary.
nicholas9999 4 years ago
I say put live cam feeds on ballots for we the people
johnreon 4 years ago
After seeing this i guess we should just give up and get on with life. It's much better if you just don't pay attention, because it's even worse if you're smart enough to know there is nothing you can do about it.
nothingtoliveupto 4 years ago
Why did you leave? Why not camp out and watch those ballots like a hawk! Thats what you should have done!
dianeliebowitz 4 years ago
I would pitch a tent and camp out...if they are safe ...then we'lll stay here and watch...surely there are enough voluteers to stay the watch over night...or as long as it takes! This guy had a stare that was absolute evil found out!
dianeliebowitz 4 years ago
thanks for being there to let us know what happened.
jessamyn19 4 years ago
Ever see a video where the Comments: 70 and Favorited: 63 times were so close in number?
johnreon 4 years ago
Democracy at work. Lie lie lie... Everyone in New Hampshire that voted need to see this. Thank you for your hard work exposing these shameful dogs.
fuel20 4 years ago
CRAZY put them all in jail...........RON PAUL
blackbirdkd 4 years ago
View count is going up incredibly slowly............
jonboy20 4 years ago
The fight for freedom has only just started. But I am very positive so far. All my life Ive had a sign hanging on my refrigiator saying "I'll never give up, I could be right".
waasabi 4 years ago
Ha. Just look at these peoples faces. Caught in the ACT. They don't even have a good defence agrument. The US election are going to be so rigged if the people dont step up and act like these people did. Thanks for your efforts and thanks for the video.
waasabi 4 years ago
If you think this video is important for other to see... advise them on other video's to search:
( Ballot Box Fraud )
johnreon 4 years ago
Thank you for letting me attach my video but I am going to remove and place on top viewed and others to point more people to this video... Many other can post this link in forums through out the internet driving traffic to this video...
johnreon 4 years ago
If you think this is bad, check out Louisiana -- where the caucus delegate-selection process was supposed to end on Jan 10th.
They saw on 1/10 that Paul had won the most delegates, so they decided to not end on 1/10& continue the delegate-selection process.
Then, from what I can tell, they switched delegates around & grouped delegates -- anything so that the GOP bosses didn't have to say Paul won.
Paul's campaign has challenged the change in procedure in Louisiana.
DillonX 4 years ago 3
HOLY SHIT!
Did you see that deer caught in head lights look he had?
DIRTY ROTTEN FUCKS!
benjover 4 years ago 2
you this will be taken off the most viewed list don;t you
nidan206 4 years ago
I hope my bank does not use the same procedure or my money is gone.
johndownunder 4 years ago
Un-fucking believable!
beatbaker 4 years ago
I linked to this Video from one of my video's I feel it is very important to get this video to as many people as we can... I also think we should have live video feeds online to let We The People Watch over the ballets till and while they are being counted...
johnreon 4 years ago 2
This is why we are getting a recount in NH. Bill Gardner will look good with a rope around his neck.
BigFatTonyCal 4 years ago
what the perhot837534p98r342yu4[09ru0ihf;hfdfne89r3y54893475>CV:B>:>:>:>":AD":ADLPdkdcmc,pos,,mc,mc
newph 4 years ago
xx go paul xx
saintbob4ronpaul 4 years ago 2
xx ron paul xx
RP4409 4 years ago 2
I don't know that this is fraud, but it looks like a bunch of people that have no idea what the hell they are doing which is scary in itself.
tigermark82 4 years ago
look up 'ron paul akon'
booboo7777777 4 years ago
they're scared shitless of telling the truth, they have the distinct look of someone who KNOWS they are doing something wrong, but scared not to do it.
forerunner5013215 4 years ago 5
And corruptions are preached to the local level.
A system of government with "No Pride" for its people continues...
josephle2k 4 years ago
The Founding Fathers would cry.
CaptainFrancis 4 years ago
this is just ridiculous. "every vote counts"...
tseitlin 4 years ago
But it's still who counts the votes that matter.
Ricky81682 4 years ago
What county was this, do you know approx. how many ballots were there?
FzSBLACKMAGICK 4 years ago
Look at faces on these guys. They do not address the issue but do nothing in a passive attempt to do what "Not answer"!!!!
gertieok 4 years ago
Someone should of stayed there all night with a video cam.
FzSBLACKMAGICK 4 years ago 3
I love the "doe in the headlights" look. Red handed!
nonotlibertine 4 years ago
It does not differ much from the procedures applied in Belarus and Moldova, for instance.
America, have a nice day !
lhenrik4 4 years ago
That is INSANE! How hard would it have been to simply say the vault was full? Or say ANYTHING to answer the question.
And the stickers being easy to remove? What a joke.
jag216 4 years ago
Was that guy trying to hypnotize us?
Librarian62 4 years ago
why are these ppl so stupid
welcometheplagueyear 4 years ago
the title of the video on this page spells that state's name incorrectly. nice.
ckreeder 4 years ago
The spelling of the state was meant to be incorrect. I hope you caught the meaning. For those that don't I can explain why I i left out the P in New Hampshire. Thanks ckreeder for pointing it out. I hope you caught what I was trying to say. PEACE
unite2starcrosslover 4 years ago
Ha!
And even if it wasn't done on purpose, ckreeder, that is what you chose to comment on when something this controversial is going on right in front of your FUCKING EYES!!!
benjover 4 years ago
Ridiculous and they keep getting away with it!
len19711 4 years ago
WOW EXCELLENT SPY WORK!!!!!!!
cfrb 4 years ago 2
WTF??
Carlitos1010 4 years ago
Pure insanity.
tosaha33 4 years ago 3
Ron Paul Campaign Files Caucus Challenge with Louisiana GOP. Look that up at google to find out story.
anamericancitizen 4 years ago
those guys are a bunch of clowns. they should not be in charge, they should get fired and start a new career as janitors themselves!
va1ha11a 4 years ago
on 2nd thought - better not as janitors.
they should start a circus as the clowns they are.
How do they "secure" their own property?
Not lock their house and put a stupid paperseal on the door which doesn't even seem to have persistant glue.
va1ha11a 4 years ago
wow.....
we are under control...
all your bases are belong to us!
kikoflu 4 years ago
Lock the ballots up. How hard would that be? Such crap. You go girls.
MMadmike 4 years ago
This looks fine to me. Why do some people have to be gnats about stuff?
redmartian 4 years ago
Leaving ballots in an empty building protected only by a sticker overnight before they are recounted seems fine to you?
kevinabt 4 years ago
Are you seriously that niave?
I must admitt though that I am impressed by your ability to type with your head that far up your ass.
benjover 4 years ago
If this was a bank storing currency for the night, would they just leave it in a room--because the whole building is secure? Or would they place it in the vault? The answer is obvious--the money would go into the vault.
So why aren't ballots treated with the same respect, considering they are the currency of a free democracy?
martron3000 4 years ago 2
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!
SaveOurSovereignty 4 years ago
We all need to do this in EVERY state! Your vote does NOT count otherwise!
sallyos06460 4 years ago
SEND THAT TO THE FBI!!!
shmoelinski 4 years ago
Why isn't this taken to the FBI?
KingdomOfKhazaria 4 years ago 5
haha, what would the FBI do?
They're probably in on it too. Bastards
percymate 4 years ago
Meh, no so much, they were the ones who had all the files about the Mossad before 9/11 and their activites in New York and Faux News were the ones who said don't listen to them and took the reports off their website 2 hours after 9/11 happened.
KingdomOfKhazaria 4 years ago
He is not answering the question.
The fact that both rooms are "as safe" does not explain why there was a change.
And the look on his face.
timtak1 4 years ago
We should reward this woman for her actions. Unbelievable. What a patriot!!!
BoonArm 4 years ago 4
That is a complete joke! How could those ballots be secure at all? The whole election is a fraud.
WTC7WasPulled 4 years ago 2