This track was too long if any thing happend like crash , fire, etc. no one can get there fast to help... who ever say running around soul-less circuits like Malaysia and Dubai?? i think these track is much better than the brainless red necks NASCAR track...
Anyone who thinks that F1 should return to Nordschleife doesn't understand history. This was a BMW promo film, with one car driven at much slower speeds than would be necessary - not a real situation where I am old enough to remember frequent death in F1 years before it was televised in the U.K live. As great as the track is, it would be crazy to return there for racers and spectators alike.
i would love to see how quickly one of the red bull f1 cars could get around here, anybody know if there is a realistic chance of any F1 team maybe doing some PR and sending round one of there cars for a quick lap?
F1 should be about the best racers in the best cars on the toughest circuits.; not budget capped teams running around soul-less circuits like Malaysia and Dubai.
The sport is getting diluted down and this beast of a circuit is what it needs to bring it back to its former glory!
There is no action on tracks like Hungary, Valencia and China but at least they are safe. There is no way any major open wheel championship would race here. Even if they did it would be a boring race. the track is way too narrow.
Spectators who like to see crashes deserve death - when 84 spectators died in Le Mans - it is my firm hope that as many of them as possible were ghouls who came to see drivers die!
ye your right, its never fun whn anyone dies, but i guess you do agree with me that crashes are spectacular, and USED to be one of the great thing of motorracing, these days its like the cars are on rails IMO
Even more important is technical changes so the cars arent so boring - look at this video compared to say Jackie Stewart on the same track in the 70's - sure they are 20 seconds a lap faster now but look how boring the body language is- he is just tooling around not pushing hard - the car takes care of all the work these days- F1 is over- it was a magnificent sport of the 20th century from Fangio to Senna!
And that is where it shall stay- in glorious memory. It is now a pale shadow of then!
he slowed down for the cameras in some places and it was fitted with different tyres and stuff. if everything was set up it probably could set the fastest time
anybody know the lap record for an f1 car around nordshleife?? i wonder how fast a lap you could do in an f1 car without all the restrictions,, with v12 not v8,, higher revs etc etc...?
The lap record for an f1 car is 6:58 min - set 1975 by Niki Lauda. The fastest lap ever was driven in 1983 by Stefan Bellof with a Porsche 956 C (6:11 min).
Well, if you would drive a f1 car without any technical restrictions (engine, aerodynamics, tires, fuel, suspension, electronics) it would surely be possible to get close to the 5min mark or break it.
Is more than enough! It's been ages since the last time F1 were racing in a men's circuit! They almost cut Spa for crying out loud! Or Suzuka!!!! And we call Malaysia a cool circuit! These were the days....
Denn eine inoffizielle Zeitmessung hat ergeben, dass Heidfeld die 73 Kurven offenbar in 5:58 Minuten hinter sich gebracht hat. Damit hätte er den bestehenden offiziellen Rundenrekord von Stefan Bellof in einem Porsche 956 aus dem Jahr 1983 um sage und schreibe 27 Sekunden verbessert. Besondere Modifikationen am Auto hatte BMW-Sauber nicht vorgenommen. "Wir haben es nur so hoch wie möglich gestellt und den maximalen Abtrieb draufgepackt", erklärte Theissen.
Looks like a nice sunday drive... too bad it wasn't full bore. Compared to how the Radical SR8 handled and accelerated, this car would easily beat that time and probably vie for an unofficial record (makes sense - SR8 = LMP2 car, not even LMP1 spec). It would be great to see Alonso, Heidfeld, or (especially) M. Schumaker take to the track full bore. Even more fun would be Michael in the V10 F2004 :).
Think the time he got was something like 8.30, which is pretty paltry when you compare it to the lap record that Stefan Bellof acheived in a Porsche 956 of 6.11. Alot of production cars have gotten more than 8.30, but apparently they raised the ride height of the car and put the hardest possible tyres on it to slow it down to reduce the cahnces of Heidfeld writing it off I'm assuming...
Considering the engine was turned down, the top speed was restricted, and he slowed down for shots with the camera cars....not so bad:-) but stefan bellof was stunning at the 'ring.
I Talked to the helicopter-cameraman, who said, he heared the noise of the SauberF1 during the recordings... inside of the Heli on air and with ear muffs! Was there this day and cant belive the sound. He did 3-4 laps I think.
8:34 was his time. He did a top speed of 275km/h. He had to slow down for photo opppurtunities and the camera car or his time would have been a lot less.
That's a Formula 1 car. Learn it. The real heroes of the Nurburgring were those that raced there in the 1930's. Carraciola,Rosemeyer and Nuvolari. Imagine driving the AutoUnion V16 with 520hp with thin wirespoke wheels and drum brakes at 190mph (300kph)?
She's not just a 2girl". She's Sabine Schmitz, the best driver of the Nordschleife in the world. She has participated in the VLN 24 Hours and knows the Ring like the palm of her hand, and BTW, she's the driver of the Ring Taxi. ;)
As awesome as having an F1 race here sounds, That would not be a good idea. Imagine me pushing hard, chasing after the leader, closing the 8-second gap he has on me. Parts would fly left and right from these rough bumps in the track and if GT cars nearly get air, then an F1 car would fly and possibly land hard and flip multiple times.
stupid nick who ever said that is obviously an upset possibly homosexual robert kubica fan! cos they added bmw rules and thats completely illogical seen as nick is the main man for BMW!!!! He also does tracks no one else would touch! I hate ignorant teens who have no idea that being "new" dosent make u good!!!
The Ring is not made for new F1 cars and no way could an F1 car get times near a GT3 or the new AMG 6.3l. I spent last week there and it is bumby as hell and not a track that I'd want to see F1 at. Send them off to the lands of oil and smoke sales. Leave the real tracks for the people who will use them :)
He started at the start/finish line of the F1 track (formerly the Sudschleife), then used the connection onto the Nordschleife. I'm guessing he did a full lap of both the F1 track and the Nordschleife. The editing of the video is weird, though; for example, after only a minute of video we already see him go round the Karousel, which is longer than a minute's drive from the F1 track, even in an F1 car. But still very cool, and definitely on the Nordschleife.
That is the Nordschliefe, and they do still use it. You pay 15 euros and you can go round it in a road legal car. There's a woman that can go round it in just over 10 mins in a Ford Transit Van
aye, it was fucking amazing, people going round in Dodge Vipers and 911s and the like going 'mwahahaha! I'm in a Lambo! I'm so cool! Then they get taken round the outside by a VAN driven by a GIRL! :D
Sorry chaps - but there's no way u could max out a modern F1 car on the 'ring. 1 of the reasons Senna died was cos his suspension was a few mil too low n he hit a bump mid-corner (among other rumours)... Any video on youtube will show u the 'ring is bumpy as hell, it'd tear the car apart. Besides - if it went back to F1, they'd probably stop any of us louts driving on it...
Yeah. You can't drive on a F1 track.. They've probably got hell over in Monaco with so all the roads beeing closed. About the Senna/bump issue, yeah that could be true about his crash, no-one knows today, but there's allways possibilities to set up the car to the bumpy nature of this track. You'd be surprised to see how bumpy many other circuits really are, watch San Paolo GP. Yeah Nurburgring is a bumpy old circuit, but it's no offroad-rally stage :)
I lived next to the "Ring" in those Lauda & Rindt years. Hopped over the fence or watched the races from the castle. Nobody paid, everybody had great views and fun. My dad did the same when Fangio and Caracciola drove. But these new F1's can't even fit next to each other in many spots. Thanks for trying how it felt, Heidtfeld!
To the ones who say "so you can ......" , need to go out and drive the Nurburgring themselves. I myself make the trip every second year from Australia, but the northern loop is too dangerous, and has way too many points a F1 car would bottom out, and actually break parts on. Flugplatz is one section where the 24hr cars almost get air (were talking a viper here), you dont want to know what would happen to a F1 car at those speeds with that little amount of suspension travel.
as you can see, it´s possible to race the schleife in a f1 car. i think fia should think of racing it as, well, kind of a "final" double-point race at the end of a season. however, seein´that is just awesome.
Amazing! I think an F1 race on this old track will worth more than the whole championship on this "new tracks"; With no engine rev limits I think this could have been the best race of the championship by far. Looks spectacular
5:58 was his time, as i understand it from german 1asport.
Nick Heidfeld is king, it must have been a special feeling for him, getting to race on such a legendary track. He wasn't even born the last time they had a real race there.
amazing seeing an F1 car at the old ring even if he wasn't going flat out. From the footage though F1 wouldn't suit it now as the track is too narrow. It takes them to overtake on new circuits so they would have no chance on this
Driving around the ring is more fun than riding in the wildest roller coaster you can find. One lap will set you back 19 € and that's a really good value for your money. Pay close attention to your mirrors and use your indicators to show faster vehicles that you've seen them and that you are letting them pass.
Last time I was there, a bike driver wiped out (driver was fine, the bike was scrap) so be careful, it's a very dangerous place but it's also a really fun place.
Low 7mins I think. Difficult to tell as the configuration of the track is different, and he was on sub-optimal tyres, downforce to the max, and he wasn't pushing it.
Mind you that it was not a full hot lap. Plus he was on Bridgestone Demonstrator tires. AND he had camera cars to slow down and pass a couple of times for footage.
AND he was told to stay out of the bowl of the carrousel
Well that's crap. If you really think about it it will alway's be prone to crashes but it is a lot safer nowadays compared to 1976 and it would attract a hell lot more viewers for sure if it is advertised well enough it would probably be as big as the monaco grand prix even, come on bernie we want nordscheiliffe
Such slow cruising. Heidfeld was disappointed when he heard what kind of nerfed F1 car he was going to drive. Ofcourse its _reasonable_ to do it like this. Reasonable, and boring.
the unofficial lap record for an f1 car round the 'ring was set in qualifiying by austrias niki lauda in the 1970's it was just under 7mins around 30 years ago. the late great clay regazzoni did a lap of 7mins and 4 secs during the same race weekend. the official fia lap record during a race (has to be during a race to be an official lap record) was set by stefan bellof in a porsche 962c in 1983. the best track ever!!!! peace to all petrol headz
F1 is a passion of mine also. I think it's become too commercial because of Ecclestone and that there is too much emphasis on pitstop strategy. Less aerodynamic downforce would provide better racing.
I saw Hans Stuck Jr. drive a 3.0 CSL at the Laguna Seca IMSA race in 1973. Fantastic driver (he had a great teacher), but if he celebrated with a yodel it wasn't audible to the crowd.
I didnt know that he raced BMW's. I know that he raced Audi quattro in the IMSA GT series. I have a video produced by Audi to show all their motorsport victorys. Walther Röhrl was also in the video, he became rally champion in the 80s on audi quattro and he also went to the US IMSA series with Stuck in a Audi.
Yes, he drove extensively for BMW before he drove for Audi. I remember his driving the Audi Quattro. I believe the rulesmakers handicapped the car because it won so often.
Heidfeld was instructed not to take any risks and had to slow for photos on each lap so his times aren't representative of what a modern F1 car could do.
Clarkson's blog is asking for new ideas for series 10 of Top Gear, seems some ppl want more car tests and less messing around.
Some say another presenter is needed. I suggested Sabine could join the Top Gear team, but I think they'd have problems accommodating her and the Stig. The roles could be too similar.
This was very cool. I agree that there was a limit put Nicky; however, if you were the team principle for BMW/Sauber, would you let Mr. Heidfeld push like he was racing Michael Schumacher? Great Vid!
Not impressed. What's the point if not to set a track record and this was about one minute short. And why couldn't he take the correct line through the karussel? At one point it looks like the camera car wants to pass Heidfeld... : ) The Nurburgring has been there for 80 years, but apparently unknown to trendies until recently because of advertising.
Sorry buddy, but, I've known about the Nurburgring for quite some time ( since I was 17). I am now 33 yrs old. The point, might I ad, is just what you said, the track is 80 years old and a modern F1 car is traversing its lines... gracefully, like its suppose to be. One more thing, can you beat Heidfeld in a Grand Prix?
Nick also drove his F1 BMW-Sauber across a frozen lake in Switzerland, another stunt drive. Could I beat Heidfeld in a Grand Prix? Does he have time for races in between advertising stunts? I could if I was driving that day's camera car, which had to slow down so as not to overtake. The only thing missing is Hans Stuck yodeling.
OK tonto, I don't want to go back and forth, I'm just having a little fun with you. I couldn't even fit into Heidfelds car; he's about 5'6", 155, and I am 6'2" 225 lbs. Even if I could I would have to drive with no fuel as to get good speed. Oh, F1 is my passion.
I once stayed 6 weeks nearby, in Seefeld, Tirol, when I was a student. Beautiful, Bavaria also! I too saw Hans Stuck Jr. race BMWs several times in IMSA, at the time a premier racing series which attracted the finest drivers.
Omg it was confirmed that the ride height was set to maximum (to avois scratches obviously) and Heidfeld was ordered to be conservative.
The time he set was 8 mins something (and he had to slow down on certain corners for photos), any F1 car would be able to kill that time if driving competitively.
Though I agree Id really have liked them to go for a record time...!!! Especially as BMW have the 3rd fastest car this year.
the reason was very simple. The modern F1 car is to low for that old bumpy track. The Karusel would have damaged suspension or underbody. Thysen(BMW) said say set the car to the highest adjustment put it still can hit the ground. Modern F1 cars are total different to the more robust oldschool F1 cars from the 80s. It wasnt unknown to me, the ring is very famous in europe. The manufactors testing their road cars there.
I would give everything I own to see f1 race on nordschleife just once!
nothke 2 months ago
This track was too long if any thing happend like crash , fire, etc. no one can get there fast to help... who ever say running around soul-less circuits like Malaysia and Dubai?? i think these track is much better than the brainless red necks NASCAR track...
jass168 4 months ago
Anyone who thinks that F1 should return to Nordschleife doesn't understand history. This was a BMW promo film, with one car driven at much slower speeds than would be necessary - not a real situation where I am old enough to remember frequent death in F1 years before it was televised in the U.K live. As great as the track is, it would be crazy to return there for racers and spectators alike.
djh29971 4 months ago
Does Bruno now get a chance to drive around the Nordschleife too?
lol
turboa 5 months ago
been doing this on rFactor for a few weeks, with the exact same car, on the full tourist circuit. Such a joy to do. Best time is about 6:04.
m3lyc 9 months ago
So much for the Radical's track record lol
ferrarif40 11 months ago
Best track in the world.
A crime for this not to feature in the F1 championship.
:(
Cactaceae33 11 months ago 3
i would love to see how quickly one of the red bull f1 cars could get around here, anybody know if there is a realistic chance of any F1 team maybe doing some PR and sending round one of there cars for a quick lap?
jonnyh1616 1 year ago
F1 sound, the stuff wet dreams are made of.
mrschokesondicks 1 year ago
going around the banked Carousel is what I consider... "cute" aha
Sigh... I guess modern F1 cars won't be able to show off at Laguna Seca :(
WorldofLuxury 1 year ago
best time
Nobodyl2k 2 years ago
yeah! the Green Hell in F1 back!
officialraf 2 years ago
F1 needs the Nordschleife back!
F1 should be about the best racers in the best cars on the toughest circuits.; not budget capped teams running around soul-less circuits like Malaysia and Dubai.
The sport is getting diluted down and this beast of a circuit is what it needs to bring it back to its former glory!
amnesia3kr 2 years ago 37
There is no action on tracks like Hungary, Valencia and China but at least they are safe. There is no way any major open wheel championship would race here. Even if they did it would be a boring race. the track is way too narrow.
zudthespud 2 years ago
it should also be fucking dangerous, people like to see crashes
elvee88 2 years ago
Spectators who like to see crashes deserve death - when 84 spectators died in Le Mans - it is my firm hope that as many of them as possible were ghouls who came to see drivers die!
mallamoozoo 2 years ago
ye your right, its never fun whn anyone dies, but i guess you do agree with me that crashes are spectacular, and USED to be one of the great thing of motorracing, these days its like the cars are on rails IMO
elvee88 2 years ago
Even more important is technical changes so the cars arent so boring - look at this video compared to say Jackie Stewart on the same track in the 70's - sure they are 20 seconds a lap faster now but look how boring the body language is- he is just tooling around not pushing hard - the car takes care of all the work these days- F1 is over- it was a magnificent sport of the 20th century from Fangio to Senna!
And that is where it shall stay- in glorious memory. It is now a pale shadow of then!
mallamoozoo 2 years ago
i want this much power in my life!!!
moosoo77 3 years ago
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why isnt the quickest lap time in an f1 car and why is it in a dodge viper
info2k8 3 years ago
Not true. At all.
The Viper only holds the lap time record for the "production cars" class. It ran the full lap in 7:22.1
The fastest officially recognized time is a 6:11.13 qualifying run by a Group C Porsche 956 in May of 1983.
This lap by BMW was strictly promotional, and the first time an F1 car made the lap since 1976.
joshlegleiter 2 years ago
actually, the viper has never held it
it was the radical sr3 and then the sr8, which are production cars, and are road legal, and were both unmodified
chongwong 2 years ago 2
he slowed down for the cameras in some places and it was fitted with different tyres and stuff. if everything was set up it probably could set the fastest time
cgrdrummer 2 years ago
looks like fun! but that's not a safe track to race a whole field of cars of that caliber.
romanval69 3 years ago
It will mean a whole lot of viewerfun :P
Wanna drive on this track in a GT car.
19ac087 3 years ago
buauuu..vaya circuitooo
rubenymel 3 years ago
Wow, I've never seen the Nordschleife so packed with people.
EnragedSephiroth 3 years ago
So take a look at the 24h race at the Nordschleife. The best event in the world ;)
fanaticfs 3 years ago
:( That event isn't broadcast on public television here in teh shitty U.S. of A. I wish I could watch it, let alone attend it.
EnragedSephiroth 3 years ago
some people have all the fun
rokracer 3 years ago
heidfeld to dno
NickPayne6 3 years ago
man, that's scary!
this track has everything and its surface is unstable!
heidfeld have to avoid the white banked area (00:58) to prevent the low F1 car from damaging its suspensions or its underside.
still, this track is legendary
eby88 3 years ago
I noticed that too, especially with the severe bumps on that section it'd just tear the f1 car up.
Which makes me wonder, COULD an F1 car manage Laguna Seca's Corkscrew?
yomi1896 3 years ago
dont think so
picard36 3 years ago
Great BMW, I love this kind of events. someone knos if A1 Ring will be in the F1 champoionship after the remodelling? Thanks
rjn407 3 years ago
anybody know the lap record for an f1 car around nordshleife?? i wonder how fast a lap you could do in an f1 car without all the restrictions,, with v12 not v8,, higher revs etc etc...?
CastleLCFC 3 years ago
I dont know exactly but my guess would be around the 6 minute mark. (with the old 1000bhp V10 unit)
kostas22 3 years ago
nt sure, f1 cars in older days (w/o restrictions) hardly ran on nordschleife
lightningcount123 3 years ago
The lap record for an f1 car is 6:58 min - set 1975 by Niki Lauda. The fastest lap ever was driven in 1983 by Stefan Bellof with a Porsche 956 C (6:11 min).
Well, if you would drive a f1 car without any technical restrictions (engine, aerodynamics, tires, fuel, suspension, electronics) it would surely be possible to get close to the 5min mark or break it.
ManuelXZ5 3 years ago
if the driver could take it....
McLarenMercedes 3 years ago
F1 1997 European GP: Schumacher hits Villeneuve (MTV3)
after watch the next video
Flying Toca Formula1
DO YOU THINK WHAT I THINK ?
equipeclaudefrancois 4 years ago
I don't care whether he was pushing it or not...just to see a modern Formula 1 car on the Nürb is enough for me.
Josh556 4 years ago 26
Is more than enough! It's been ages since the last time F1 were racing in a men's circuit! They almost cut Spa for crying out loud! Or Suzuka!!!! And we call Malaysia a cool circuit! These were the days....
SkataKPonos 4 years ago
They really should hold the USGP At Mazda laguna seca. Its pretty short for an F1 course, but its pretty cool.
nekoreaper 3 years ago
Denn eine inoffizielle Zeitmessung hat ergeben, dass Heidfeld die 73 Kurven offenbar in 5:58 Minuten hinter sich gebracht hat. Damit hätte er den bestehenden offiziellen Rundenrekord von Stefan Bellof in einem Porsche 956 aus dem Jahr 1983 um sage und schreibe 27 Sekunden verbessert. Besondere Modifikationen am Auto hatte BMW-Sauber nicht vorgenommen. "Wir haben es nur so hoch wie möglich gestellt und den maximalen Abtrieb draufgepackt", erklärte Theissen.
eltiburon1983 4 years ago 2
at the end you faintly hear one guy clapping. ONE PERSON.
maxeva69 4 years ago
I love how he stayed out of the Carousel! He had enough downforce, I guess: didn't need the G's... Very Khool
Axetele 4 years ago
he would have bottomed out despite the increased ride height.
Shadowboost 4 years ago
he wasnt going for a lap record or anything, just a parde wasnt he? if he was goin for the record i thnk he wud hav broken it
sammmyb123 4 years ago
The car was restricted anyway to 275 kph and reported times vary from just under 6 mins to 6mins 40 excluding the new f1 track.
Kerpunk909 4 years ago
espectacular
prodigybull83 4 years ago
Looks like a nice sunday drive... too bad it wasn't full bore. Compared to how the Radical SR8 handled and accelerated, this car would easily beat that time and probably vie for an unofficial record (makes sense - SR8 = LMP2 car, not even LMP1 spec). It would be great to see Alonso, Heidfeld, or (especially) M. Schumaker take to the track full bore. Even more fun would be Michael in the V10 F2004 :).
moto7451 4 years ago
what year is this ? looks like 06? i doubt he would have done more than a couple of sequences at 90% the rest was taking it easy for cameras
pvtdangles 4 years ago
Think the time he got was something like 8.30, which is pretty paltry when you compare it to the lap record that Stefan Bellof acheived in a Porsche 956 of 6.11. Alot of production cars have gotten more than 8.30, but apparently they raised the ride height of the car and put the hardest possible tyres on it to slow it down to reduce the cahnces of Heidfeld writing it off I'm assuming...
mtr22b 4 years ago
Considering the engine was turned down, the top speed was restricted, and he slowed down for shots with the camera cars....not so bad:-) but stefan bellof was stunning at the 'ring.
drschming 4 years ago
I Talked to the helicopter-cameraman, who said, he heared the noise of the SauberF1 during the recordings... inside of the Heli on air and with ear muffs! Was there this day and cant belive the sound. He did 3-4 laps I think.
AlexZanardi1920 4 years ago
its a hell of a shame.. but they'll only be about 9 laps of the track cos its that long:P
Madlegs2k7 4 years ago
14 actually
yorricksfriend 3 years ago
Such a shame this ultimate curcuit is off the F1 calendar.
DPScott20 4 years ago
My god what a beautiful noise this car makes.
jogga123 4 years ago 3
Amen! And good soundquality too!
Nordschleife and a F1 car, what more could you ever need? I know, a GP at the Nordschleife! :P
mcbrite 4 years ago
thats right :D
Crossrider92 4 years ago
Heidfeld was'nt allowed to race really fast, so he was not faster than a alzen porsche.
365gts 4 years ago
what was the lap time?
wastedxt7 4 years ago
I love that circuit. It's a shame they had to take it off the F1 calendar.
MintAs94 4 years ago
he didnt ride the banked part of the hairpin
darkwizard22 4 years ago
Ride height my friend...... Bet he couldnt drive over speedhumps either...... Nice to see an F1 car drive THE circuit though.
vtwinlunatic 4 years ago
yeah, its impossible for a current f1 car to go over the banked parts.. itll ruin the buttom and cause so much less down force.
ferrariicemankimi 4 years ago
If you want a GREAT ride-along of the Nurburgring, enter "Radical SR8 Nurburgring" in the YouTube Search Box. You will see a full run in 7+ minutes!
JGMagoo 4 years ago
8:34 was his time. He did a top speed of 275km/h. He had to slow down for photo opppurtunities and the camera car or his time would have been a lot less.
tpshootz 4 years ago
What was his time?
BonifacijJ 4 years ago
That's a Formula 1 car. Learn it. The real heroes of the Nurburgring were those that raced there in the 1930's. Carraciola,Rosemeyer and Nuvolari. Imagine driving the AutoUnion V16 with 520hp with thin wirespoke wheels and drum brakes at 190mph (300kph)?
McLarenMercedes 4 years ago
So...how fast did that racecar go?
LastRevolution662 4 years ago
She's not just a 2girl". She's Sabine Schmitz, the best driver of the Nordschleife in the world. She has participated in the VLN 24 Hours and knows the Ring like the palm of her hand, and BTW, she's the driver of the Ring Taxi. ;)
raulv04 4 years ago
Fabulous!
cscott001 4 years ago
muy impresionante
MAFIOSODOLLAR 4 years ago
nice vid.....keep it up...greetings from Holland..bye
glorys6 4 years ago
My hero!
kaBAMo 4 years ago
nordschleife : green hell
kartracer93 4 years ago
i think its north circuit, but thats just a guess. :OP
Unless ur being silly then yea right on.
Kieren01 4 years ago
Awesome video, thanks for putting it up, seeing a modern day F1 car on the Ring is a dream!
shawtyoner 4 years ago
As awesome as having an F1 race here sounds, That would not be a good idea. Imagine me pushing hard, chasing after the leader, closing the 8-second gap he has on me. Parts would fly left and right from these rough bumps in the track and if GT cars nearly get air, then an F1 car would fly and possibly land hard and flip multiple times.
Spyker88 4 years ago
yeah man!
alielshadai 4 years ago
its the most stunning circuit on the face of the earth.....shockingly dangerous but absolutely brilliant....takes balls of steel
suhailchandhok 4 years ago
stupid nick who ever said that is obviously an upset possibly homosexual robert kubica fan! cos they added bmw rules and thats completely illogical seen as nick is the main man for BMW!!!! He also does tracks no one else would touch! I hate ignorant teens who have no idea that being "new" dosent make u good!!!
Jado1988 4 years ago
the time?
SmokescreenNinjaz 4 years ago
Quick Nick?? NO!!! Stupid Nick !!! wrrrr BMW rulezzz
Qkizzz 4 years ago
The Ring is not made for new F1 cars and no way could an F1 car get times near a GT3 or the new AMG 6.3l. I spent last week there and it is bumby as hell and not a track that I'd want to see F1 at. Send them off to the lands of oil and smoke sales. Leave the real tracks for the people who will use them :)
londonbikefun 4 years ago
Hahaha :) You're kiddin me?
johanjohanjohanl 4 years ago
F1 returns to the ring this sunday if I'm not mistaken.
DoubleAgentBrasco 4 years ago
yeh i couldn't belive that. Did they make changes to the track to make it safer.
LUDAo3 4 years ago
I'm sad to say they didn't run the Nordschliefe.
Boooooooooo!
I don't think anyone does anymore.
DTM series might but I don't get to see those races in the states anymore, not since Nascar Network took over Speedvision. No "Isle of Man" either.
DoubleAgentBrasco 4 years ago
are you blind or sumin? that was the nordschliefe!! It was also widely advertised that BMW and Heidfeld were going to do it!
RonnyM82 4 years ago
He started at the start/finish line of the F1 track (formerly the Sudschleife), then used the connection onto the Nordschleife. I'm guessing he did a full lap of both the F1 track and the Nordschleife. The editing of the video is weird, though; for example, after only a minute of video we already see him go round the Karousel, which is longer than a minute's drive from the F1 track, even in an F1 car. But still very cool, and definitely on the Nordschleife.
mrflippant 4 years ago
That is the Nordschliefe, and they do still use it. You pay 15 euros and you can go round it in a road legal car. There's a woman that can go round it in just over 10 mins in a Ford Transit Van
Slashfan90210 4 years ago
someone watches topgear lol
sieversrichie 4 years ago
aye, it was fucking amazing, people going round in Dodge Vipers and 911s and the like going 'mwahahaha! I'm in a Lambo! I'm so cool! Then they get taken round the outside by a VAN driven by a GIRL! :D
Slashfan90210 4 years ago
Sorry chaps - but there's no way u could max out a modern F1 car on the 'ring. 1 of the reasons Senna died was cos his suspension was a few mil too low n he hit a bump mid-corner (among other rumours)... Any video on youtube will show u the 'ring is bumpy as hell, it'd tear the car apart. Besides - if it went back to F1, they'd probably stop any of us louts driving on it...
HotrunVideo 4 years ago
i doubt theyd stop ppl driving it...
OriginalAtomicSheep 4 years ago
Yeah. You can't drive on a F1 track.. They've probably got hell over in Monaco with so all the roads beeing closed. About the Senna/bump issue, yeah that could be true about his crash, no-one knows today, but there's allways possibilities to set up the car to the bumpy nature of this track. You'd be surprised to see how bumpy many other circuits really are, watch San Paolo GP. Yeah Nurburgring is a bumpy old circuit, but it's no offroad-rally stage :)
johanjohanjohanl 4 years ago
aah!! the hallowed tarmac of the nordschleife! how nice to see a formula one car on it again..
moozzmclaren 4 years ago
I lived next to the "Ring" in those Lauda & Rindt years. Hopped over the fence or watched the races from the castle. Nobody paid, everybody had great views and fun. My dad did the same when Fangio and Caracciola drove. But these new F1's can't even fit next to each other in many spots. Thanks for trying how it felt, Heidtfeld!
Girlracerx888 4 years ago
i agree with you misabinks, but that's not the same car ..
Pyr0sn4k3 4 years ago
It was dangereous
It almost killed Lauda in 76'!!
misabinks 4 years ago
i think it was a big mistake when they dropped the old nurburgring...shame i always liked that track :(
muppet6789 4 years ago
Nice promo vid for F1. Its hard enough on PS2. Who can tame the lord of the 'Rings?
TaigaSibirskaya 4 years ago
imagine if he was pushing hard
noface28 4 years ago
If he pushed any harder, that f1 car would either spin out around those tricky corners or go airborn over those hidden hills.
vbaker4 4 years ago
hahaha, those who watch nuerburgring videos are usually serious people
prototype615h 4 years ago
i enjoyed that, thanks for posting it
lordfarquart 4 years ago
To the ones who say "so you can ......" , need to go out and drive the Nurburgring themselves. I myself make the trip every second year from Australia, but the northern loop is too dangerous, and has way too many points a F1 car would bottom out, and actually break parts on. Flugplatz is one section where the 24hr cars almost get air (were talking a viper here), you dont want to know what would happen to a F1 car at those speeds with that little amount of suspension travel.
speedmotorsport 4 years ago
why can't they make a track that has the same layout as the ring and has the facilities as bahrain
LDSUTD1 4 years ago
verz big costs and in this era the teams need to spend low budgets
tracto91 4 years ago
Tilke needs to make tracks like it to get Bernie more viewers and notes.
LDSUTD1 4 years ago
as you can see, it´s possible to race the schleife in a f1 car. i think fia should think of racing it as, well, kind of a "final" double-point race at the end of a season. however, seein´that is just awesome.
taa41748 4 years ago
Now they only drive the grand prix track in the races, not the old nordschleife :/
1gemballa1 4 years ago
Amazing! I think an F1 race on this old track will worth more than the whole championship on this "new tracks"; With no engine rev limits I think this could have been the best race of the championship by far. Looks spectacular
mg198242 4 years ago
Quick Nick!
XeRoc 4 years ago
Nick is good race car driver and he is my favorite driver but he has to step up more. Robert Kubica had a better result today in Monoca.
cakcelik 4 years ago
Cool!! I don't care what restrictions there were, it was still good.. : )
ALCUS52 4 years ago
5:58 was his time, as i understand it from german 1asport.
Nick Heidfeld is king, it must have been a special feeling for him, getting to race on such a legendary track. He wasn't even born the last time they had a real race there.
nisdk 4 years ago
8 minutes.
googboog 4 years ago
I agrree
Jado1988 4 years ago
amazing seeing an F1 car at the old ring even if he wasn't going flat out. From the footage though F1 wouldn't suit it now as the track is too narrow. It takes them to overtake on new circuits so they would have no chance on this
dexkeldex 4 years ago
His most important instruction was to smile for the cameras!
tontosage 4 years ago
Driving around the ring is more fun than riding in the wildest roller coaster you can find. One lap will set you back 19 € and that's a really good value for your money. Pay close attention to your mirrors and use your indicators to show faster vehicles that you've seen them and that you are letting them pass.
Last time I was there, a bike driver wiped out (driver was fine, the bike was scrap) so be careful, it's a very dangerous place but it's also a really fun place.
itsdarkinhere 4 years ago
wonderful!good!
cti69 4 years ago
what was heidfeld's lap time?
aviatik 4 years ago
Low 7mins I think. Difficult to tell as the configuration of the track is different, and he was on sub-optimal tyres, downforce to the max, and he wasn't pushing it.
simes69 4 years ago
they should have put both heidfeld and kubica on track at the same time. they'd soon start racing each other. f1 has no balls anymore.
aviatik 4 years ago
That would have been interesting.
What would have been more so would be to pit the Ferrari, BMW and McLaren together on that circuit.
Dataman5 4 years ago
apparently it was approximately 7 or 8 minutes.
StylesP1987 4 years ago
8:34.
Mind you that it was not a full hot lap. Plus he was on Bridgestone Demonstrator tires. AND he had camera cars to slow down and pass a couple of times for footage.
AND he was told to stay out of the bowl of the carrousel
AND he was told NOT go all out.
Beyondthegrave1386 4 years ago
Well that's crap. If you really think about it it will alway's be prone to crashes but it is a lot safer nowadays compared to 1976 and it would attract a hell lot more viewers for sure if it is advertised well enough it would probably be as big as the monaco grand prix even, come on bernie we want nordscheiliffe
noddy6543 4 years ago
Now put V12 5 liter 1500hp engines in them, put slicks, remove traction control and wing limitations and lets see what real men can do on this track!
Im so sick of formula1 last 12 years, even last couple of seasons were boring although much more interesting than schumacher era.
AreOut 4 years ago
Such slow cruising. Heidfeld was disappointed when he heard what kind of nerfed F1 car he was going to drive. Ofcourse its _reasonable_ to do it like this. Reasonable, and boring.
untimid 4 years ago
im with schuf1 bring back the nordscheillife (however you spell it)
noddy6543 4 years ago
tht will only happen in about 20 yrs at least......when improvements r made- BIG improvements
hihynynhhf 4 years ago
Lets start a petition to bring Nürburgring Nordschleife back to F1!
schuf1 4 years ago
Lets start a petition to bring Nürburgring Nordschleife back to F1!
schuf1 4 years ago
sfefan Bellof drove a 956 when he made the record, but a 962 is a nice car too..
Ruhlfan 4 years ago
the unofficial lap record for an f1 car round the 'ring was set in qualifiying by austrias niki lauda in the 1970's it was just under 7mins around 30 years ago. the late great clay regazzoni did a lap of 7mins and 4 secs during the same race weekend. the official fia lap record during a race (has to be during a race to be an official lap record) was set by stefan bellof in a porsche 962c in 1983. the best track ever!!!! peace to all petrol headz
reezl 4 years ago
This has to be the best publicity stunt ever
darylwickham 4 years ago
His time was 5mins 58s!
I read this at a german sports-website!
BMW is the best **** the rest!!:-D
sheva7777 4 years ago
no around 7min04sec
Sirm00t 4 years ago
He actually did it in 7mins 04secs
Spaffboy 4 years ago
but you can clearly see in the video he isnt pushing hard.
Joe22300 4 years ago
Hes hardly even driving
skinnymilk 4 years ago
He wasn't allowed to go flat out, so he only did an 8'34.
koenfranken 4 years ago
SO, what what the Heidfelds time ?
konax666 4 years ago
F1 is a passion of mine also. I think it's become too commercial because of Ecclestone and that there is too much emphasis on pitstop strategy. Less aerodynamic downforce would provide better racing.
I saw Hans Stuck Jr. drive a 3.0 CSL at the Laguna Seca IMSA race in 1973. Fantastic driver (he had a great teacher), but if he celebrated with a yodel it wasn't audible to the crowd.
tontosage 4 years ago
I didnt know that he raced BMW's. I know that he raced Audi quattro in the IMSA GT series. I have a video produced by Audi to show all their motorsport victorys. Walther Röhrl was also in the video, he became rally champion in the 80s on audi quattro and he also went to the US IMSA series with Stuck in a Audi.
heinzolesch79 4 years ago
Yes, he drove extensively for BMW before he drove for Audi. I remember his driving the Audi Quattro. I believe the rulesmakers handicapped the car because it won so often.
tontosage 4 years ago
Good Video, bad editing, they actually have the clip starting at the Karussel and working backwards. Oh well, good vid anyhows.
rallitart 4 years ago
God, the are around the ring is such a beautiful area in Germany, the people living there are truley lucky.
Fuschimuschi 4 years ago
Genial! ...hätte ich gerne live am Ring gesehen!
iceburn06 4 years ago
Awesome! I wish they'd go back, but I don't want them ruining the track by changing it for safety.
toxigenegoober 4 years ago
It is almost like having sex, watching this video :-)
maxmara7 4 years ago
LEGEND RUN: Thanking BMW-Sauber and Nick Heidfeld for this, especially because the Nordschleife is a very bumpy track.
CaboRedman 4 years ago
Watch Bellof driving the lap record on YouTube.
Bellof drove a far weaker car in 1983 and did a 6.11 !!! Now that's driving! Modern F1 should manage it at least in 5 minutes!
schuf1 4 years ago
Heidfeld was instructed not to take any risks and had to slow for photos on each lap so his times aren't representative of what a modern F1 car could do.
me456654 4 years ago
It is not Bellof in that video, but Derek Bell.
the circuit was 20km for that race, Heidfeld used the 24km layout. Besides it was a demo, not a real race event.
FOKforum 4 years ago
cool video on a side note Long live the #14 Porsche 962C Derek Bell and Al Holbert best driver combo EVER!!!
ac2nd 4 years ago
Hey BMW you missed a trick here.
You should have let Sabine Scmidt the Ring Taxi driver have a go too.
BoiledBunny 4 years ago
Does she hold the course record? She has too for street mods. under 8 min for sure. I've seen a vid of her breaking 8 somewhere.
erickonphoenix 4 years ago
She was on Top Gear right, remember her, she's is very good at the Nurburgring Nordschleife.
NasSaysHipHopIsDead 4 years ago
Clarkson's blog is asking for new ideas for series 10 of Top Gear, seems some ppl want more car tests and less messing around.
Some say another presenter is needed. I suggested Sabine could join the Top Gear team, but I think they'd have problems accommodating her and the Stig. The roles could be too similar.
BoiledBunny 4 years ago
Ok, but she did appeared once at Top Gear during the Nordschleife special.
NasSaysHipHopIsDead 4 years ago
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CDBigShow 4 years ago
anyone got a spare pair of pants?
jdmdorifuto 4 years ago
This was very cool. I agree that there was a limit put Nicky; however, if you were the team principle for BMW/Sauber, would you let Mr. Heidfeld push like he was racing Michael Schumacher? Great Vid!
GOGOPants 4 years ago
Not impressed. What's the point if not to set a track record and this was about one minute short. And why couldn't he take the correct line through the karussel? At one point it looks like the camera car wants to pass Heidfeld... : ) The Nurburgring has been there for 80 years, but apparently unknown to trendies until recently because of advertising.
tontosage 4 years ago
Sorry buddy, but, I've known about the Nurburgring for quite some time ( since I was 17). I am now 33 yrs old. The point, might I ad, is just what you said, the track is 80 years old and a modern F1 car is traversing its lines... gracefully, like its suppose to be. One more thing, can you beat Heidfeld in a Grand Prix?
GOGOPants 4 years ago
Nick also drove his F1 BMW-Sauber across a frozen lake in Switzerland, another stunt drive. Could I beat Heidfeld in a Grand Prix? Does he have time for races in between advertising stunts? I could if I was driving that day's camera car, which had to slow down so as not to overtake. The only thing missing is Hans Stuck yodeling.
tontosage 4 years ago
OK tonto, I don't want to go back and forth, I'm just having a little fun with you. I couldn't even fit into Heidfelds car; he's about 5'6", 155, and I am 6'2" 225 lbs. Even if I could I would have to drive with no fuel as to get good speed. Oh, F1 is my passion.
GOGOPants 4 years ago
greetings from bavaria yolahahdi. I love it when he yodel after a win like his win at the IMSA GT series in USA during the 80s.
heinzolesch79 4 years ago
I once stayed 6 weeks nearby, in Seefeld, Tirol, when I was a student. Beautiful, Bavaria also! I too saw Hans Stuck Jr. race BMWs several times in IMSA, at the time a premier racing series which attracted the finest drivers.
tontosage 4 years ago
Omg it was confirmed that the ride height was set to maximum (to avois scratches obviously) and Heidfeld was ordered to be conservative.
The time he set was 8 mins something (and he had to slow down on certain corners for photos), any F1 car would be able to kill that time if driving competitively.
Though I agree Id really have liked them to go for a record time...!!! Especially as BMW have the 3rd fastest car this year.
Jontinao 4 years ago
the reason was very simple. The modern F1 car is to low for that old bumpy track. The Karusel would have damaged suspension or underbody. Thysen(BMW) said say set the car to the highest adjustment put it still can hit the ground. Modern F1 cars are total different to the more robust oldschool F1 cars from the 80s. It wasnt unknown to me, the ring is very famous in europe. The manufactors testing their road cars there.
heinzolesch79 4 years ago
yes yes we all make him look like turrtle sex. watch our vids fastest men in the universe
NotQuiteReality 4 years ago
Ron Paul drives F1 better than this guy.
gablio77 4 years ago