Zionism = a political ideology which has more Christian followers than Jewish followers.
Thus to say anti-Zionism is anti-Semitism, is a baseless and rather pathetic attempt at political sabotage and slander.
Then again, the Zionist will go to ANY lengths to being ethnic self-victimization into the equation. In fact, that and scapegoating Moslems, is really the only rebuttal the Zionist has to the sad reality of his moral depravity.
you dont even know what anti semitism is you jackass. israelis zionist nazi trick of using the holocaust and anti semitism for political gain is getting really old. most of us see right through your propaganda and israels days are numbered
My actual quote (word-for-word) was: "the ratio between the number of Palestinians killed to the number of Israelis killed is so extreme that those Israeli's killed are really minuscule, especially considering they are the one's who have invaded the land."
&
"I admire Ahmadinejad's courage to stand up to the Zionist aggressors."
Both if which are completely true :)
Deliberately miss-quoting me won't get you very far buddy.
Moreover, not only Christians but non-Christians of all races are regarded as "supernal refuse" (garbage) by Talmud teachers such as the founder of Habad-Lubavitch, Rabbi Shneur Zalman.
This was analyzed in the Jewish magazine, New Republic: "...there are some powerful ironies in Habad's new messianic universalism, in its mission to the gentiles; and surely the most unpleasant of them concerns Habad's otherwise undisguised and even racial contempt for the goyim."
as a jew i am very proud that this video shows how we havegreatly improved palestine. Shure we stole the arabs land but profits have increased greatly and now i make alot of money. Shure we killed many arabs but thats because were greedy and since alot of us got killed by hitler we felt we should kill arabs. I mean i know we didnt do shit about the holocaust but thats because were greedy and week nothingwrong with that. And as for palestinian civililians being murdered by israeli terrorists
"It is like a beast which touches a corpse or overshadows it. And this applies not to corpse uncleanness only but to any other kind of uncleanness: neither gentiles nor cattle are susceptible to any uncleanness." (Code of Maimonides vol.10 pp.8-9).
Mishneh Torah, Hilchot Rotze'ach 2:11: 'If a man schemes against his fellow man and kills the man deliberately... put him to death.' But a gentile is not considered a man, and even more so, a Jew is not executed for killing an unrighteous gentile."
@karlkarlkarl1234 There is no point with this fundamentalist, he has publicly stated on youtube that any people killed by Hamas are "of no consequence" (he also believes Hamas have not killed more than 15 people), he has also publicly stated on youtube that Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and his regime is "something to be admired" and this is a statement made even though he knows what that regime has done to the Iranian people after it lost the election, now you understand his hate.
The post-Talmudic commentator Moses Maimonides - revered "sage" - taught that Christians should be exterminated.
Maimonides taught in another part of the Mishnah Torah that gentiles are not human: "Man alone, and not vessels, can contract uncleanness by carriage. ...The corpse of a gentile, however, does not convey uncleanness by overshadowing. ...a gentile does not contract corpse uncleanness; and if a gentile touches, carries, or overshadows a corpse he is as one who did not touch it."
yeh obviously the man knows the diffference between zionist and a jew , masons are zionists and have some jew blood in them. well DONT BE RACIST JUST SUBMIT TO THE NEW WORLD ORDER! sounds less racist when you put it that way a? 14/88!!!!!!
@karlkarlkarl1234 , i love that a lot of you friends have nazi symbols , and are david duke fans . where do you get your facts from? if you are not a arab , you have to much time on your hands . thanks for blocking me , when i never heard of you untill today . try to get your point across without using your foul mouth !
No, Zionism is solely for the overthrow of Palestine and the formation of the Israeli state.
50% of Jews hate Zionism and are against it. You are just trying to make people out as racists so you can hide the horrible shit Israel has done and continue victimising yourself.
NB: The original Zionists were the world's first terrorists, killing thousands.
Zionism = a political doctrine of racial intolerance and hate.
None of your Zionist bullshit can change the truth
I'm afraid these supposed "anti-semites" (who are actually usually the true semites) are simply showing the terrible unthinkable SINS Israel has committed, from ethnic cleansing to tying little kids to tanks as shields. There's a reason your politicians are labelled as war criminals around the world.
Zionism = a politcal doctrine.
Everyone knows it and the TRUTH is out. Israel is going to have to answer and pay for it's crimes against humanity.
The Talmud is a disgustingly racist book, it makes Hitler's Mein Kampf look peachy.
Just as I expose the abhorrent racism in the Talmud, I also expose the violence in the Hadith and Bible.
In fact I would go so far as to to say the Talmud is the most vile disturbing book I have ever been unfortunate to place by eyes upon. The people who wrote it are nothing less than the spawn of Satan.
You are clearly a foilower of the racist Talmudic teachings as you have just demonstrated some of its core principles.
The heirs of the Pharisees often deny the existence of the Talmud passages here cited, in order to brazenly claim that such passages are the "fabrications of anti-Semites."
What it utterly disgusting is that rabbis of Judaism never repudiate or condemn the racism in the Talmud or the murderous hate for Christians and gentiles expressed within it
So you want me to continue quoting Rabbis and outlining their disgusting level of racism towards "the Goyim" (which is reflected & reinforced in the Talmud)?
"this characterization of gentiles as being inherently evil, as being spiritually as well as biologically inferior to Jews, has not in any way been revised in later Habad writing." --The New Republic, May 4, 1992. Also cf. Roman A. Foxbrunner, Habad: The Hasidism of Shneur Zalman of Lyady (Jason Aronson, Inc., 1993) pp. 108-109.
"As for the goyim...Zalman's attitude (was): 'Gentile souls are of a completely different and inferior order. They are totally evil, with no redeeming qualities whatsoever.'
"Consequently, references to gentiles in Rabbi Shneur Zalman's teachings are invariably invidious. "Their (non-Jews) abundance derives from refuse, which is why they are more numerous than the Jews, as the pieces of chaff outnumber the kernels...All Jews were innately good, all gentiles innately evil."
Here is an example of what Maimonides (Rambam) taught concerning saving people's lives, especially concerning saving the lives of gentiles and Christians:
"Accordingly, if we see an gentile being swept away or drowning in the river, we should not help him. If we see that his life is in danger, we should not save him."
AND
"It is a mitzvah [duty].. to eradicate these traitors, minnim (non-Jews/Goyim), and apikorsim, and cause them to descend to the pit of destruction."
Zionism= a radical doctrine of racial intolerance, ethnic cleansing, terrorism and aggressive expansionism (ie: stealing land that is not theirs), and outright war-mongering. It is the political view of a lot of Israel (country NOT race).
Zionism is openly racist on every level; so they're trying to make US sound racist instead.
Zionists are ANGRY because we are exposing their crimes. DEATH TO ZIONISM FREE PALESTINE!!!!
@karlkarlkarl1234, Zionism simply means that Jewish people are human beings and therefore deserve all the basic rights other people take for granted: life, liberty, pursuit of happiness and normal human dignity. Beginning with the right to live.
The rest - what you wrote here - is nonsense.
Judaism is not a race. Jews are not a race. Jews come in all colors. But Jews are a nation.
Just a little breakdown... 1) A Jew is a member of Judaism 2) A Zionist is a member of a Nationist Movement for the creation of an exclusively Jewish State 3) An Israeli is a citizen of Israel. A single person can be all three, but each has a different meaning. A person can be a Jewish Israeli Zionist in much the same way that I can be a Lutheran American Republican. (I realize that conservativism is not a nationalist movement, but I could not think of an equivalent in an American context)
True Jews lived in peace with palestinians, they were neighbours. True Jews follow the Torah. Zionists are largerly non religious. I hate ALL ZIONISTS. The time will soon come, al-quds will be liberated from the oppressive zionist. La'natullahi Alaykum
It's good to see most people haver the intelligence to see through this bullshit video (which is made by an overt racist himself who claims Palestine never existed).
If you look at the history of Zionism, they were the first terrorists to ever exist in the modern sense of the word. They were built on racial hate and intolerance, and exists as such today.
To see what Zionism is and clips of them look at my channel. Then you will realise why anti-zionism is nothing but antiNazism.
Hasidic groups are anti-Zionist because they let Zionists in as refugees and these Zionist started bombing and slaughtering the local population, eventually ethnnically cleansing them through terror and genocide and then stole their native land.
It's fair enough.
Zionism on the other hand (based on Talmud) holds that ALL other peoples non-Jewish are cattle. It is opening and fiercely racist.
Errr no. They are anti-zionist because of the myriad of depraved crimes and human rights abuses of Israel. Not to mention that whole stealing a country, ethnically cleansing it, and then building a wall around the survivors and inter-mittantly bombing them into submission. THEN they have the audacity to call themselves "children of God". I think they're mistaken, Israelis are children of Lucifer.
@karlkarlkarl1234 This isn't a controversial issue and you can ask any random hasid to explain this to you. Hasidic theology is very well defined. Also hasids don't call themselves "children of god" (ie bnei yhvh).
A 2 minute chat with any fine hasid in person will resolve this issue.
@fimatmax Be careful with your ignorant hate. All those who wanted the Jewish extermination were exterminated and no longer exist, including the third reich and nazis. While Israel and Jewish people survived and will survive 4 ever
PPl sure do not know what zionism means then. They or evil men ahve politicized it. If anything the word is "ALIYAH" zionism in hebrew just means sign or post. ALIYAH is a movement. Also a very good video. The L_rd Bless you in all thingsl.
Nowhere ever have I found so many hateful Nazi-like-minded people like among muslims. Just look at their comments and accounts. And they are not one bit ashamed, some of them even proud to call for the murder of Jews
"You people"? Leaving aside the implied xenophobia,you don't even understand your audience. It'smultiracial,multicultural,Christian,Muslim and yes,Jewish. European and North American as well as Middle Eastern and South Asian,and predominantly from the liberal democratic political mainstream. Oh,and crassly misrepresenting "the leading imams" like that tends to destroy your credibility on the subject.
"You people" refers to radical Muslims, leftists and anyone who can't see the obvious facts about this conflict that are right in front of their face. The Arab states discriminate against Jews and Christians. Israel is the only state in the Middle East that doesn't have these kinds of laws. End of story.
Cut-and-paste repetition does not constitute a reply! It merely implies you have nothing new to say. As Wittgenstein famously put it: "Whereof one cannot speak,thereof one must remain silent."
You clearly have no idea of the political spectrum or mainstream public opinion. Opposition to Israeli action and breaches of international law are very widespread,and by no means only among Muslims. "Any of a number of mosques" is meaningless - there will always be extremists in any faith group. Massaging the statistics doesn't help your case,any more than unsupported assertions about "leftists",itself a term too vague to be pertinent. If you mean "left of Avigdor Lieberman",that's most people.
Yes. But if the pope, Rick Warren and the leaders of every major Christian denomination came together and agreed on certain points, these would constitute Christianity.
And the leading Imams of the different schools of Islam all agree that jews are sub-human animals. And other "infidels" such as myself are barely any better. So my belief is that Israel's attempts to make peace with you people is a waste of time.
@modelfan1979 gosh you seem to hate muslims as much as you THINK they hate jews! "leading imams think jews are sub-human animals" huh? wow! They really are nazis then! it's a pity that that is completely false.
The title is profoundly misleading. While some anti-Zionists are unquestionably racists and hatemongers,the majority are simply critical of Israeli behaviour regarding the Palestinians,it's neigbours,human rights andinternational law. "Anti-Semitism" is a catch-all smear cynically employed to avoid engaging with the issues.
You are either a misinformed leftist or a Muslim practicing taqiyya. Anyone watching Arab TV for more than a few minutes or going to any of a number of mosques in America, Europe or the Middle East can say for certain, that there is a deep anti-semitism that is naked when the speaker speaks in Arabic and coded as anti-Zionism when the speaker speaks in English. It is similar with many leftists. They talk on and on about Israel's "crimes" in public and in private they talk about "jew" conspiracys
My Neighbour is an ortodox Jew and he is a good man. I don't hate him at all. He and his wife are always welcome in my house and me and my family also.
So we don't hate Jews, we hate Zionist Jews. What is a liberal Zionist a Zionist that steals land of others, occupie it and give the colonist a piece of land like Gaza to life in. A liberal is one that steals 90% of land and give back 10 % of land. And than tell them not to fish in their waters and not to fly over theyr own lands.
I don't believe you. I have seen TV and friday sermons from the Palestinian territories and it is all hate all of the time towards Americans and Jews. So don't insult my intelligence.
As to occupation, if you are so upset about occupations, why aren't you complaining about the Turks who occupied what is now Israel for 400 years. Oh wait, I forgot, it is completely OK for Muslims to occupy land in the Middle East, but not Jews.
You really don't know..... Taqiyah is a caracteristic of Zionist Jews. So And Shia have took it over from the Jews. There are no Sunni Muslims in the world that practice Taqiyah. The Real Muslims are not afraid.
Taqijah is a JEwish Practise, so you dont really know ..
I pray for ypu that Allah will guide you and your Taqiyah friends.
If I hate someone I will tell them.
I do not hate any kind of People, but I hate one kind of People and that are Zionists.
that is definetly not true. no. most people critisise israel because of their brutal war-politics. this has nothing to do with antisemitism. the adl and bnaibrith brainwash has got the mass media under their thought-control but the people are smarter than the zionists. there is no new antisemitism, but zionists want to benefit from it so there has to be one.
You know what is funny is that you believe you know everything there is about Zionism and yet you do know what Zionism is or that there are different types of Zionism.
You generalize all types of Zionism by its most putrid form. Yet there is a form of Zionism called Liberal Zionism.
It is not bullshit. It is a fact that Liberal Zionism favors the construction of a Palestinian State. You don't know this because you don't know anything about them. And that is because you hate JEWS!
But I know about Al-Taqiya and I have studied the early history of Islam.
You hate Christians, Jews and other non-Muslims because we are infidels. This has nothing to do with what we have or haven't done. It has to do with the hatred many Muslims have had against us since the original Fatah.
Muslims hate zionists Jews, but not the Jews that are against Israhel. Jews that are peacefula are good people. Israelis Jews Zionists are the real racists.
So Liberal Zionists who favor the construction of a Palestinian State are racists?
Don't you just realize that you know nothing about Zionism? Do yourself a favor, go on wikipedia and read about Liberal Zionism and search for a book about on Ebay.
If you continue to practice Al-Taqiya, us non-Muslims will eventually pick up on it.
I know the truth. You shouldn't try to hide it, as more and more of us "infidels" learn the truth, it becomes less and less effective.
You hate the Jews, along with Christians and all of us other non-Muslims because we are "infidels." You want to make us second class citizens in our own country and make us pay a special tax, convert or face death. You hate our culture. So stop lying.
Anti-zionism is not Anti semitism. You all would like to claim that way so that you all can get away with killing of innocents. So that you can shut up critics of Israel. Israel is a zionistic state created by haters killers and wrongdoers.
That's incorrect. The Muslim world never had the same widespread, institutionalized and popular anti-semitism that was seen in Europe. This truth doesn't matter now though because the illegal racist puppet state of Israel must be defended.
Ok. So now in Europe, Jews have to fear for their lives if they walk down the street? They can't move to some countries in Europe because their are laws preventing them from going there or they would be killed very quickly if they went there? No, wait, I'm thinking of the Middle East, not Europe.
The Muslim world is far more anti-semitic and racist than Israel or the West. The first step in handling a problem is facing the fact that it exists. Jews have their own state. Get over it.
I wouldn't say it's more racist than Israel. As a country founded exclusively for one single group Israel is bound to have a racist outlook, and the perpetual land thieving and ethnic cleansing bears this out. The anti-semitism propagated by some in the Muslim world today was something imported from Europe in response to the founding of Israel and their treatment of the natives. The idea promoted by Zionists today that Muslims have always been antisemitic is a modern politically-motivated lie.
Ok. So Israel is the state of the Jews. The vatican is a state for Catholics. Italy is a state for Italians. Germany is a state for Germans. Many races and some religious groups have their own countries. This is nothing unusual.
As to your statements on Israel and anti-Semitism you are either a Muslim praciticing Taqiyya or a leftist who is either lying to me or doesn't know history. The Muslims have ALWAYS, since the beginning, considered Jews and Christians sub-humans. Just read the Koran.
Is that in the same way as a Christian would look down on a non-Christian as being a 'heathen'? You have merely been manipulated to think a certain way so that you'll support the 'War on Terror', and judging by the level of your intelligence you were a sitting duck for such manipulation. It amazes me that the US is the world capital of anti-Muslim bigotry and yet its Muslim population is miniscule. Coincidentally, the US has started many wars in Muslim countries. Do you find this coincidental?
No. You are confused. Almost none of my information comes from the American media. A lot of information I have about the Muslim world comes from interviews with prominent Muslims or news programs, aired in Muslim countries in Arabic. Watching English language TV is a waste of time. The jihadists lie all the time when talking in English.
Don't even bother trying to blame terrorism on America's foreign policy. Islamic attacks on America have occured since the beginning of the country.
So you can speak Arabic? These so-called spokespeople like that Shoebat guy or that other woman who's name I can't remember are out to make a quick buck by telling Americans what they want to hear, like the majority of American so-called 'intellectuals' And dont come out with shit like 'Islamic attacks on America have occured since the beginning of the country' and then say you dont get your info from American media. Name one of these attacks that occured prior to US imperial actions in the ME?
No. But I have friends who are Arabs who can.And the answer to your question, do the Barbary Wars ring a bell? Shortly after America won independence from Great Britain, a number of North African Muslim countries, most of whom were under the Islamic caliphate began attacking US ships and enslaving Americans. At the time we had no navy and were no possible threat. When John Adams went to negotiate with them, they said according to the Koran, we were infidels who had to pay tribute or be attacked.
What has that got to do with anything that's going on today? Anyway, that's piracy not fundamentalist terrorism. Also, I know you're lying about having Arab friends. You're just going to have to face up to America's responsibility for their foreign policy actions rather than looking for scapegoats.
Nothing. But the point is, that we have been considered infidels since this country was founded. We have been attacked by Muslims since this country was founded. This doesn't mean that all Muslims are bad. Far from it, a lot of my information on the Middle East comes from Arab Muslims and Christians, especially Christians, who by the way are horribly mistreated by the Muslim governments. People who choose to convert to Christianity get killed. How is that America's fault?
Who are these 'Muslim governments' that anti-Muslim people go on about? No Muslim elected the Saudi regime. It was the British who chose a leader of the Wahhabi sect to control that region of the ME. America continues to support them. There are other leaders who are also repressive who are sponsored by the West. The reason they are repressive is because they are unrepresentative and have no popular support amongst their people. So how could they have normal societies? Its not about Islam.
Ok. But every government that has been elected in in the Middle East has contained elements of Islamic law, such as honor killings and killing of converts from Islam. The current regimes are nothing compared to what would happen if, for example, the Muslim Brotherhood or other Islamic radicals took over. And they would win elections throughout the Middle East if held today. I have to agree with a great Islamic scholar, Dr. Tafwik Hamid, in that religion needs to be seperated from government.
Why do they need elements of Islamic law? To give themselves a kind of legitimacy - because they don't have popular legitimacy. They weren't elected. Also, the rise in fundamentalism is directly related to the lack of legitimacy these govts have. Fundamentalists are now seen by some as the only alternative. That wasn't always the case though. Did you know - the PLO once incorporated leftist and secular elements, but these were persecuted by Israel while Hamas was, on the other hand, encouraged.
Yes. Hamas was supported by Israel before they started committed terrorist actions and blowing up Jews. Because up until that point, they were simply an "educational" organization.
As to radical Muslims versus radical leftists, they are both very similar. They believe in creating a perfect society and they don't care how many people they have to murder in cold blood in order to do this, whether they be Jews, Christians, or other Muslims.
One other question for you. What foreign policy mistake did Russia make to deserve the horrible massacre of children that was carried out by radical Muslims a few years ago? What "crime" did these children commit? What "crime" did Africans commit that caused Muslim armies to enslave millions of Africans and other Muslims to kill at least 100 million Africans in the over 1,000 year Muslim Arab slave trade, which dealt in African slaves. Explain that.
We don't look down on the Muslim world. In fact, there have been a number of Imams that were invited to Washington to speak with Bush when he was in office.
When Obama came became President, one of the people leading prayers was the leader of a major American Islamic organization.
Why is the Arabic world the center of anti-Christian and anti-Jew bigotry? Is that because the Muslims have killed so many? Or are they simply being manipulated by their leaders?
WHY ARE YOU SO HATEFULL? Did a Jew make you try matah ball soup? What does a dentist in Miami have to do with your hatred? Get over your hate, or stew in it until you choke. Who cares what you think.
You're fucking stupid. Zionism means the support for a Jewish State in the Middle East. Heredi Jews are evil and support the holocaust so next time think what you're saying. You can't even spell "Jewish".
The most fortunate of ALL Muslims in the Middle East are those who have been blessed with Israeli citizenship, the only country in the Middle East where a Muslim can enjoy the fruits of life in a democratic society.
Being Jewish is a lot more then being religious. Are all Italians Catholic?
Jews are a people and a religion. I am a secular Jew who supports Zionism because I recognize the need for a Jewish homeland due to the persercution of a tiny minority of GOOD people who only want to live in peace and produce productive people, ideas, arts and science.
my question to you is why Palestine? its almost like you wake up tomorrow and Native Americans show up with Armored Tanks and Assault Rifles killing your family blowing up your houses to make their teepee houses wanting their land back because their gods promised this land to them? why cause this BIG a problem to achieve a simple goal go make ur land somewhere else where u will enjoy ALOT more peace so u can continue on with ur advances in modern sciences and arts.
What a hypocrite you are. North Dakota had native Americans, so you suggest people, born for thousands of years in the JUDEA displace Americans who displaced Indians, all so Muslims, (only 600 years of history) can have the entire middle east, instead of allowing the Jews to live peacefully in the land they were born in from 6000 years ago.
Israel is less then 1/10th of 1 percent of the middle east, thats 99.9% for Arabs, who are also taking over Europe now and have the US in their sights.
I can explain it. The reason why more Palestinian Deaths are reported than Israel ones is because more deaths of Palestinians are reported than Israeli ones. And why the Israel government doesn't report is that it works in favor of them not reporting as many casualties of their people that actually does happen.
Anyways, why does it even matter that it is not 1:1? What kind of stupidity are you going on about? This is retarded.
"I said anywhere from twice, to twenty times to 300 times as many Palestinian civilians die than Israelis."
And that does not matter. Again I must tell you. It does not matter how many Palestinians die compare to Israelis. Should it be fair that as many Nazis die as Americans during WWII?
And in Palestine and in Islam, there are no Civilians. Just potential Suicide Bombers and paramilitary fighters.
Well actually no, because Christian Palestinians don't believe in Jihad.
What would consider to be a civilian when there are programs in Gaza strictly devouted to military education and prepareness for children. When children are soldier, there are no civilians. How can there be? What would be a civilian?
Racism? HAHAHAHA! I'm a racist? You are idiot. Name calling won't get anywhere.
In the first study period The Times reported Israeli deaths at a rate 2.8 times higher than Palestinian deaths, and in 2004 this rate increased by almost 30%, to 3.6, widening still further the disparity in coverage. The Times coverage of childrens deaths was even more skewed. In the first year of the current uprising, Israeli childrens deaths were reported at 6.8 times the rate of Palestinian childrens deaths.
In 2004 this differential also increased, with deaths of Israeli children covered at a rate 7.3 times greater than the deaths of Palestinian children. Given that in 2004 22 times more Palestinian children were killed than Israeli children, this category holds particular importance. We could find no basis on which to justify this inequality in coverage
That Media is corrupt. And sending links is strictly forbidden on youtube, prepare to have your account suspended, when this is reported. Hey I lost one of my accounts for doing this, so you will you. There is no special exemptions and it is one of their rules. HAHA!
And that comes from that link of your above? If Americans knew or some shit like that?
Israeli children deaths are not reported 7.3 times more than Palestinians, because Palestinians and anti-ZIonists and anti-semitics own all the news corporations. NONE ARE PRO-ISRAELI! Not even Fox. Fox is part of the Christian Network and even some of their members had suggest that the Israels all covert to Christianity. They don't care what happens to Israeli, they don't want a Muslim Jerusalem.
Only the government does. And the government has no control over the new corporations.
"U.S. coporations own the media, that is why the media is biased towards Israel."
Yeah that is true, it is biased against Israel. Almost all News Corporations are run by anti-semites. Even corporations that aren't entirely news oriented, like Disney are runned by anti-semites.
You can call bullshit an objective study, doesn't change the fact is is just your word
Oh so it doesn't exist, huh? Well you cannot provide me proof, so what else is there to believe. To believe something that has nothing solid to be presented is hearsay, and ot believe hearsay is ludicrous.
It is your word versus mine. Too bad you cannot win, huh? LOL!
Running around Youtube and other blog sites screaming bloodly murder agaisnt Jews because you don't like Israel or her policies DOES increase hatred which leads to VIOLENCE so YES Anti-Zionism does equal Antisemitism. Period.
actually i also do think that one should differentiate between antisemitism and antizionism because from my point of view they are two different things.. although i have to agree on that, that probably the main cause for antisemitism is antizionism and the fact that many people tend to confuse them and start to mix them up..
Yeah that's what people always say. If a person is opposed to Zionism then they will be told "you don't understand the situation". So why don't you explain this big mystery that you believe anti-Zionists aren't able to grasp?
Hamas and Fatah kill Israelis and innocent Palestinians and other Arabs. These two groups have actually killed more innocent Arabs than they have Jews.
Israel = good
Israel is the only non-racist, non-sexist country in the Middle East = good.
You live in a country with the most one-sided biased coverage of the Palestine conflict in the world and despite this attempt to manipulate public opinion more and more Americans are becoming aware of what Israel does and are turning against it. These people aren't necessarily 'leftists' or any other term that you want to bandy about.
Being against the Israeli government and it's methods of "protection" do not have the slightest thing to do with being an anti-semite. In fact to make such a claim is once more engaging in universal deceit to help enhance the zionist agenda.
By crafting the mindset that being anti-zionist is to be anti-Jew, then you will successfully limit the amount of criticism Israel gets for fear of being labeled an anti-semite. So good job. This is the most deceitful claim I have heard in quite some time.
have ever asked yourselves how did the jews survive for hundreds of years among the arab, christian ,and muslim communites in jerosalem, baghdad, morroco, cairo and Yemen? they were accepted . they were living peacefully practicing thier beliefs. when %2
Anti-Zionism and Anti-Semitism are two completely different things. There are many Jews against Zionism, but the Zionists try to label them as self hating Jews. Zionists always play the race card.
Jews have a homeland now. Too bad if you don't like it. There are not "many" Jews who are anti Zionist, just a few nut jobs who value their own interests over the good of the Jewish people
Israelis have contributed so much to this world. Feel free to boycott your computer and cell phone since much of the current technology was developed by Israelis (aka Zionists).
Being a Zionist means loving Israel, which is their homeland. Its like saying if you love America you are a proud American.
First, what are you doing on this board, you are LOOKING for a chance to insult Jews so if the shoe fits you obviously wear it.
Second, your "Khazar" claims are just STUPID. If people practice a religion and are persercuted under it then they are a member of that religion. The Khazars whom you refer intermarried(forceably) with Jews and got their religion from Jewish relatives and became Jews hundreds of years ago
How many generations does it take to "really" be muslim if you convert?
No one was forced to convert, how does a carvan with 2000 people violently convert an entire area. Know the history, the king at the time for politcal reasons converted to Judiasm. Futhermore, A jew can´t marry a non jew. That was the reason for conversion. I don´t insult people only tell them the truth.
Anti-Zionism does not equal anti-Semitism. This tactic only exists to suppress opposing viewpoints, critical thinking, and dissenting voices which are all healthy ways in which to argue POLICY. Just because you disagree with Israeli policy does not make you anti-semetic. Way to use the same tactics of the people who oppressed you in Germany.
According to you're profile kaiwaig it says that you don't care what somebody's religion is as long as it remains private and doesn't force itself in the public sphere. However Israels use the justification of religion to commit terrible acts of violence on innocent civilians so you're a hypocrite. In my other post here I'm arguing the ability to question policy so seeing that you're gay does that make it wrong to question anti-gay policy that would discriminate against people like yourself?
your name is seekthetruth but apparently you dont notice that were attacking a country that has been attacking us for thousands and thousands of years. there are no anti-palestinian policies in israel that is all bullshit, i used to live there and i had palestinian friends who were ZIONIST thats right palestinian ZIONIStS!
Yes Exactly. You are so right. It is funny. There are some Palestinians who are pro-Israel, and there are some Jews that are anti-Zionist and hate their own people.
please show me one palestinian zionist (lol) i want to see one.
do you have any link or something?
but what i do know is that there are akwakened people like naturei kharta and jews against zionism etc. which are true religios (btw. religion is stupid) people and not rightextremist jewish nationalists called zionists.
Sure. Walid Shoebat. Massab Yousef. There are others but they aren't vocal about it, since they are afraid of being killed by other Palestinians as thousands of innocent Palestinians have, for disagreeing with Fatah or Hamas.
Salam Fayyad, the Prime Minister of the Palestinian National Authority is a Palestinian Zionist.
Any member of the Palestinian Popular Struggle Front.
Right Extremist Jews Nationalists are not called ZIonists. ANYONE WHO SUPPORTS THE FOUNDATION OF ISRAEL IS CALLED A ZIONIST even if they were a leftist.
maybe by "we will wipe you dirty Jews off," the antizionist just meant he would tenderly care for any nonzionist Jew who falls down & got some dirt on his face or something
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FlotillaCrew 3 months ago
Well when you kill Palestinians for no reason, they will come later and kill you... But they will have a reason!
ahref2 6 months ago
Zionism = a political ideology which has more Christian followers than Jewish followers.
Thus to say anti-Zionism is anti-Semitism, is a baseless and rather pathetic attempt at political sabotage and slander.
Then again, the Zionist will go to ANY lengths to being ethnic self-victimization into the equation. In fact, that and scapegoating Moslems, is really the only rebuttal the Zionist has to the sad reality of his moral depravity.
OrthodoxDarwinist 8 months ago in playlist Contemporary Antisemitism - 1 of 4
you dont even know what anti semitism is you jackass. israelis zionist nazi trick of using the holocaust and anti semitism for political gain is getting really old. most of us see right through your propaganda and israels days are numbered
alanw73 11 months ago
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My actual quote (word-for-word) was: "the ratio between the number of Palestinians killed to the number of Israelis killed is so extreme that those Israeli's killed are really minuscule, especially considering they are the one's who have invaded the land."
&
"I admire Ahmadinejad's courage to stand up to the Zionist aggressors."
Both if which are completely true :)
Deliberately miss-quoting me won't get you very far buddy.
karlkarlkarl1234 1 year ago
Moreover, not only Christians but non-Christians of all races are regarded as "supernal refuse" (garbage) by Talmud teachers such as the founder of Habad-Lubavitch, Rabbi Shneur Zalman.
This was analyzed in the Jewish magazine, New Republic: "...there are some powerful ironies in Habad's new messianic universalism, in its mission to the gentiles; and surely the most unpleasant of them concerns Habad's otherwise undisguised and even racial contempt for the goyim."
karlkarlkarl1234 1 year ago
Anti Zionism is simply a euphemism for anti Jewish. It's the politically correct chant du jour.
Lagolop 1 year ago
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the holocaust never happened
rolo3040 1 year ago
but i make money so im fine make a profit and keep your big noses clean fellow jewbags
rolo3040 1 year ago
as a jew i am very proud that this video shows how we havegreatly improved palestine. Shure we stole the arabs land but profits have increased greatly and now i make alot of money. Shure we killed many arabs but thats because were greedy and since alot of us got killed by hitler we felt we should kill arabs. I mean i know we didnt do shit about the holocaust but thats because were greedy and week nothingwrong with that. And as for palestinian civililians being murdered by israeli terrorists
rolo3040 1 year ago
rolo3040 sure u r a fckn assjole
missayaa 1 year ago
@missayaa lol what I said is true though
rolo3040 1 year ago
@rolo3040
littel frik gat a life ass hole
stop troling
shitler lover
go fuck your shitler
TheUria24 1 year ago
@TheUria24 hi
rolo3040 1 year ago
"It is like a beast which touches a corpse or overshadows it. And this applies not to corpse uncleanness only but to any other kind of uncleanness: neither gentiles nor cattle are susceptible to any uncleanness." (Code of Maimonides vol.10 pp.8-9).
Mishneh Torah, Hilchot Rotze'ach 2:11: 'If a man schemes against his fellow man and kills the man deliberately... put him to death.' But a gentile is not considered a man, and even more so, a Jew is not executed for killing an unrighteous gentile."
karlkarlkarl1234 1 year ago
@karlkarlkarl1234
and...
so you found That religion is nonsense
Jolly good for you
Secular cause all this nonsense of race
Islam calls on all non-Muslims dogs pigs and monkeys
Christian did crusades and tortured millions of people and still have people who want to get it back
Let's just kill all the people and get it over with
At least the animal will have peace and thats not for sure
TheUria24 1 year ago
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@karlkarlkarl1234 There is no point with this fundamentalist, he has publicly stated on youtube that any people killed by Hamas are "of no consequence" (he also believes Hamas have not killed more than 15 people), he has also publicly stated on youtube that Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and his regime is "something to be admired" and this is a statement made even though he knows what that regime has done to the Iranian people after it lost the election, now you understand his hate.
con2477 1 year ago
@karlkarlkarl1234 karlkarlkarl1234 Any people killed by Hamas are 'of no consequence'
Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and his regime are 'something to be admired'
Public statement by karlkarlkarl1234, 2010.
con2477 1 year ago
The post-Talmudic commentator Moses Maimonides - revered "sage" - taught that Christians should be exterminated.
Maimonides taught in another part of the Mishnah Torah that gentiles are not human: "Man alone, and not vessels, can contract uncleanness by carriage. ...The corpse of a gentile, however, does not convey uncleanness by overshadowing. ...a gentile does not contract corpse uncleanness; and if a gentile touches, carries, or overshadows a corpse he is as one who did not touch it."
karlkarlkarl1234 1 year ago
true ahah this is how most muslims are
xXPacoXxx 1 year ago
Thats true, AND THE WEST NEVER STOPPED THINKNING LIKE NAZIS
SO.....WHITE TRASH AND ISLAMOFASCISTS UNITE !
Yahoodi1 1 year ago
@Yahoodi1 everyone hates you guys nazis were no exception
rolo3040 1 year ago
yeh obviously the man knows the diffference between zionist and a jew , masons are zionists and have some jew blood in them. well DONT BE RACIST JUST SUBMIT TO THE NEW WORLD ORDER! sounds less racist when you put it that way a? 14/88!!!!!!
redemax 1 year ago
@karlkarlkarl1234 , i love that a lot of you friends have nazi symbols , and are david duke fans . where do you get your facts from? if you are not a arab , you have to much time on your hands . thanks for blocking me , when i never heard of you untill today . try to get your point across without using your foul mouth !
martinhymanson 1 year ago
@karlkarlkarl1234, i saw your channel ,enough said .
martinhymanson 1 year ago
No, Zionism is solely for the overthrow of Palestine and the formation of the Israeli state.
50% of Jews hate Zionism and are against it. You are just trying to make people out as racists so you can hide the horrible shit Israel has done and continue victimising yourself.
NB: The original Zionists were the world's first terrorists, killing thousands.
Zionism = a political doctrine of racial intolerance and hate.
None of your Zionist bullshit can change the truth
=)
karlkarlkarl1234 1 year ago
the anti - semites can't wash there sins by subbing zionist , for jewish .
martinhymanson 1 year ago
@martinhymanson
I'm afraid these supposed "anti-semites" (who are actually usually the true semites) are simply showing the terrible unthinkable SINS Israel has committed, from ethnic cleansing to tying little kids to tanks as shields. There's a reason your politicians are labelled as war criminals around the world.
Zionism = a politcal doctrine.
Everyone knows it and the TRUTH is out. Israel is going to have to answer and pay for it's crimes against humanity.
karlkarlkarl1234 1 year ago
@karlkarlkarl1234 ive seen you defame the Talmud. enough of your taqiyya, you are a genuine jew hater.
beepu2 1 year ago
@beepu2
The Talmud is a disgustingly racist book, it makes Hitler's Mein Kampf look peachy.
Just as I expose the abhorrent racism in the Talmud, I also expose the violence in the Hadith and Bible.
In fact I would go so far as to to say the Talmud is the most vile disturbing book I have ever been unfortunate to place by eyes upon. The people who wrote it are nothing less than the spawn of Satan.
It's NOT religion, it's racial hate.
karlkarlkarl1234 1 year ago
@karlkarlkarl1234 i highly doubt you have read any literature besides mein kampf, protocols of the learned elders of zion, and the international jew.
talmud is read by educated people, such as scholars and theologists. not by pseudo-intellectuals such as yourself.
half the quotes do you people put do not exist, the other have are either completely misinterpreted or taken out of context.
beepu2 1 year ago
@beepu2
You are clearly a foilower of the racist Talmudic teachings as you have just demonstrated some of its core principles.
The heirs of the Pharisees often deny the existence of the Talmud passages here cited, in order to brazenly claim that such passages are the "fabrications of anti-Semites."
What it utterly disgusting is that rabbis of Judaism never repudiate or condemn the racism in the Talmud or the murderous hate for Christians and gentiles expressed within it
karlkarlkarl1234 1 year ago
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@karlkarlkarl1234 Any people killed by Hamas are 'of no consequence'
Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and his regime are 'something to be admired'
Public statement by karlkarlkarl1234, 2010.
con2477 1 year ago
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@beepu2 Any people killed by Hamas are 'of no consequence'
Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and his regime are 'something to be admired'
Public statement by karlkarlkarl1234, 2010.
con2477 1 year ago
@beepu2
So you want me to continue quoting Rabbis and outlining their disgusting level of racism towards "the Goyim" (which is reflected & reinforced in the Talmud)?
"this characterization of gentiles as being inherently evil, as being spiritually as well as biologically inferior to Jews, has not in any way been revised in later Habad writing." --The New Republic, May 4, 1992. Also cf. Roman A. Foxbrunner, Habad: The Hasidism of Shneur Zalman of Lyady (Jason Aronson, Inc., 1993) pp. 108-109.
karlkarlkarl1234 1 year ago
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@karlkarlkarl1234 Any people killed by Hamas are 'of no consequence'
Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and his regime are 'something to be admired'
Public statement by karlkarlkarl1234, 2010.
con2477 1 year ago
"As for the goyim...Zalman's attitude (was): 'Gentile souls are of a completely different and inferior order. They are totally evil, with no redeeming qualities whatsoever.'
"Consequently, references to gentiles in Rabbi Shneur Zalman's teachings are invariably invidious. "Their (non-Jews) abundance derives from refuse, which is why they are more numerous than the Jews, as the pieces of chaff outnumber the kernels...All Jews were innately good, all gentiles innately evil."
karlkarlkarl1234 1 year ago
Here is an example of what Maimonides (Rambam) taught concerning saving people's lives, especially concerning saving the lives of gentiles and Christians:
"Accordingly, if we see an gentile being swept away or drowning in the river, we should not help him. If we see that his life is in danger, we should not save him."
AND
"It is a mitzvah [duty].. to eradicate these traitors, minnim (non-Jews/Goyim), and apikorsim, and cause them to descend to the pit of destruction."
karlkarlkarl1234 1 year ago
It is simple:
Judaism = religion and race.
Zionism= a radical doctrine of racial intolerance, ethnic cleansing, terrorism and aggressive expansionism (ie: stealing land that is not theirs), and outright war-mongering. It is the political view of a lot of Israel (country NOT race).
Zionism is openly racist on every level; so they're trying to make US sound racist instead.
Zionists are ANGRY because we are exposing their crimes. DEATH TO ZIONISM FREE PALESTINE!!!!
karlkarlkarl1234 1 year ago
@karlkarlkarl1234, Zionism simply means that Jewish people are human beings and therefore deserve all the basic rights other people take for granted: life, liberty, pursuit of happiness and normal human dignity. Beginning with the right to live.
The rest - what you wrote here - is nonsense.
Judaism is not a race. Jews are not a race. Jews come in all colors. But Jews are a nation.
Kurtlane 1 year ago
free palastine
fimatmax 1 year ago
Just a little breakdown... 1) A Jew is a member of Judaism 2) A Zionist is a member of a Nationist Movement for the creation of an exclusively Jewish State 3) An Israeli is a citizen of Israel. A single person can be all three, but each has a different meaning. A person can be a Jewish Israeli Zionist in much the same way that I can be a Lutheran American Republican. (I realize that conservativism is not a nationalist movement, but I could not think of an equivalent in an American context)
Anizer84 1 year ago
Ive argued with this one.
U can see right trought that he hates jews, even though he claims he doesnt.
He argues that the holocaust is fake - no one who does not hate jews, wouldnt do so.
And than he backed up hes claims by promoting "the holocaust industry" by Norman Finkelstein.
The funny thing is, even though Finkelstein support Palestine, he doesnt deny the holocaust. In fact hes parents are holocaust - survivors.
besmb2105 1 year ago
True Jews lived in peace with palestinians, they were neighbours. True Jews follow the Torah. Zionists are largerly non religious. I hate ALL ZIONISTS. The time will soon come, al-quds will be liberated from the oppressive zionist. La'natullahi Alaykum
bm897 1 year ago
It's good to see most people haver the intelligence to see through this bullshit video (which is made by an overt racist himself who claims Palestine never existed).
If you look at the history of Zionism, they were the first terrorists to ever exist in the modern sense of the word. They were built on racial hate and intolerance, and exists as such today.
To see what Zionism is and clips of them look at my channel. Then you will realise why anti-zionism is nothing but antiNazism.
:)
karlkarlkarl1234 1 year ago
All Hasidic groups are inherently anti zionist and always have been due to their superstition about messiahs and Israel being a nation.
This includes Chabad.
ברוך אתה ה' אלוהינו מלך העולם שלא עשני חסיד
BrooklynNotQueens 1 year ago
@BrooklynNotQueens
Hasidic groups are anti-Zionist because they let Zionists in as refugees and these Zionist started bombing and slaughtering the local population, eventually ethnnically cleansing them through terror and genocide and then stole their native land.
It's fair enough.
Zionism on the other hand (based on Talmud) holds that ALL other peoples non-Jewish are cattle. It is opening and fiercely racist.
ZIONISM = RACISM
karlkarlkarl1234 1 year ago
@karlkarlkarl1234 incorrect the only reason that hasicds are antizionist is what i stated above. look up the "three oaths".
BrooklynNotQueens 1 year ago
@BrooklynNotQueens
Errr no. They are anti-zionist because of the myriad of depraved crimes and human rights abuses of Israel. Not to mention that whole stealing a country, ethnically cleansing it, and then building a wall around the survivors and inter-mittantly bombing them into submission. THEN they have the audacity to call themselves "children of God". I think they're mistaken, Israelis are children of Lucifer.
karlkarlkarl1234 1 year ago
@karlkarlkarl1234 This isn't a controversial issue and you can ask any random hasid to explain this to you. Hasidic theology is very well defined. Also hasids don't call themselves "children of god" (ie bnei yhvh).
A 2 minute chat with any fine hasid in person will resolve this issue.
BrooklynNotQueens 1 year ago
Same shit for 3 mins 55 secs. I agree but try and put more effort into your video next time
ronaldezz 2 years ago
Antizionism or Antisemitism?Simply dumbery :D
valeagathon 2 years ago
the jews deserve another holocaust lets erradicate the jewish vermin once and for all
fimatmax 2 years ago
Make tea not race war.
shakeystevensVIII 2 years ago
@fimatmax Be careful with your ignorant hate. All those who wanted the Jewish extermination were exterminated and no longer exist, including the third reich and nazis. While Israel and Jewish people survived and will survive 4 ever
mordechay100 2 years ago
Anti Zionism-rejecting the nationalism of the Jewish nation..
Therefore being anti semitic.
IsraeliMetalhead 2 years ago
It has more to do with the actions resulting from the nationalism of the Jewish nation. Therefore being not antisemitic.
shakeystevensVIII 2 years ago
PPl sure do not know what zionism means then. They or evil men ahve politicized it. If anything the word is "ALIYAH" zionism in hebrew just means sign or post. ALIYAH is a movement. Also a very good video. The L_rd Bless you in all thingsl.
charmm001 2 years ago
Nowhere ever have I found so many hateful Nazi-like-minded people like among muslims. Just look at their comments and accounts. And they are not one bit ashamed, some of them even proud to call for the murder of Jews
DreamFreedom1 2 years ago
"You people"? Leaving aside the implied xenophobia,you don't even understand your audience. It'smultiracial,multicultural,Christian,Muslim and yes,Jewish. European and North American as well as Middle Eastern and South Asian,and predominantly from the liberal democratic political mainstream. Oh,and crassly misrepresenting "the leading imams" like that tends to destroy your credibility on the subject.
SeryiVolk2009 2 years ago 2
"You people" refers to radical Muslims, leftists and anyone who can't see the obvious facts about this conflict that are right in front of their face. The Arab states discriminate against Jews and Christians. Israel is the only state in the Middle East that doesn't have these kinds of laws. End of story.
modelfan1979 2 years ago
Cut-and-paste repetition does not constitute a reply! It merely implies you have nothing new to say. As Wittgenstein famously put it: "Whereof one cannot speak,thereof one must remain silent."
SeryiVolk2009 2 years ago 2
You clearly have no idea of the political spectrum or mainstream public opinion. Opposition to Israeli action and breaches of international law are very widespread,and by no means only among Muslims. "Any of a number of mosques" is meaningless - there will always be extremists in any faith group. Massaging the statistics doesn't help your case,any more than unsupported assertions about "leftists",itself a term too vague to be pertinent. If you mean "left of Avigdor Lieberman",that's most people.
SeryiVolk2009 2 years ago 2
Yes. But if the pope, Rick Warren and the leaders of every major Christian denomination came together and agreed on certain points, these would constitute Christianity.
And the leading Imams of the different schools of Islam all agree that jews are sub-human animals. And other "infidels" such as myself are barely any better. So my belief is that Israel's attempts to make peace with you people is a waste of time.
modelfan1979 2 years ago
@modelfan1979 gosh you seem to hate muslims as much as you THINK they hate jews! "leading imams think jews are sub-human animals" huh? wow! They really are nazis then! it's a pity that that is completely false.
meggatonman 2 years ago 2
The title is profoundly misleading. While some anti-Zionists are unquestionably racists and hatemongers,the majority are simply critical of Israeli behaviour regarding the Palestinians,it's neigbours,human rights andinternational law. "Anti-Semitism" is a catch-all smear cynically employed to avoid engaging with the issues.
SeryiVolk2009 2 years ago
You are either a misinformed leftist or a Muslim practicing taqiyya. Anyone watching Arab TV for more than a few minutes or going to any of a number of mosques in America, Europe or the Middle East can say for certain, that there is a deep anti-semitism that is naked when the speaker speaks in Arabic and coded as anti-Zionism when the speaker speaks in English. It is similar with many leftists. They talk on and on about Israel's "crimes" in public and in private they talk about "jew" conspiracys
modelfan1979 2 years ago
My Neighbour is an ortodox Jew and he is a good man. I don't hate him at all. He and his wife are always welcome in my house and me and my family also.
So we don't hate Jews, we hate Zionist Jews. What is a liberal Zionist a Zionist that steals land of others, occupie it and give the colonist a piece of land like Gaza to life in. A liberal is one that steals 90% of land and give back 10 % of land. And than tell them not to fish in their waters and not to fly over theyr own lands.
abuadam10 2 years ago
ZIonist means those who support the foundation of Israel and the continuation of its existence.
Your neighbor is a Zionist. You just don't know what a Zionist is because of all the British and Palestinian Propaganda.
Tom101229 2 years ago
I don't believe you. I have seen TV and friday sermons from the Palestinian territories and it is all hate all of the time towards Americans and Jews. So don't insult my intelligence.
As to occupation, if you are so upset about occupations, why aren't you complaining about the Turks who occupied what is now Israel for 400 years. Oh wait, I forgot, it is completely OK for Muslims to occupy land in the Middle East, but not Jews.
modelfan1979 2 years ago
Peace be upon those that uphold peace.
You really don't know..... Taqiyah is a caracteristic of Zionist Jews. So And Shia have took it over from the Jews. There are no Sunni Muslims in the world that practice Taqiyah. The Real Muslims are not afraid.
Taqijah is a JEwish Practise, so you dont really know ..
I pray for ypu that Allah will guide you and your Taqiyah friends.
If I hate someone I will tell them.
I do not hate any kind of People, but I hate one kind of People and that are Zionists.
abuadam10 2 years ago
that is definetly not true. no. most people critisise israel because of their brutal war-politics. this has nothing to do with antisemitism. the adl and bnaibrith brainwash has got the mass media under their thought-control but the people are smarter than the zionists. there is no new antisemitism, but zionists want to benefit from it so there has to be one.
zer77o 2 years ago
LOL!
You know what is funny is that you believe you know everything there is about Zionism and yet you do know what Zionism is or that there are different types of Zionism.
You generalize all types of Zionism by its most putrid form. Yet there is a form of Zionism called Liberal Zionism.
It is not bullshit. It is a fact that Liberal Zionism favors the construction of a Palestinian State. You don't know this because you don't know anything about them. And that is because you hate JEWS!
Tom101229 2 years ago
Nice try.
But I know about Al-Taqiya and I have studied the early history of Islam.
You hate Christians, Jews and other non-Muslims because we are infidels. This has nothing to do with what we have or haven't done. It has to do with the hatred many Muslims have had against us since the original Fatah.
modelfan1979 2 years ago
Muslims hate zionists Jews, but not the Jews that are against Israhel. Jews that are peacefula are good people. Israelis Jews Zionists are the real racists.
abuadam10 2 years ago
So Liberal Zionists who favor the construction of a Palestinian State are racists?
Don't you just realize that you know nothing about Zionism? Do yourself a favor, go on wikipedia and read about Liberal Zionism and search for a book about on Ebay.
Tom101229 2 years ago
If you continue to practice Al-Taqiya, us non-Muslims will eventually pick up on it.
I know the truth. You shouldn't try to hide it, as more and more of us "infidels" learn the truth, it becomes less and less effective.
You hate the Jews, along with Christians and all of us other non-Muslims because we are "infidels." You want to make us second class citizens in our own country and make us pay a special tax, convert or face death. You hate our culture. So stop lying.
modelfan1979 2 years ago
Anti-zionism is not Anti semitism. You all would like to claim that way so that you all can get away with killing of innocents. So that you can shut up critics of Israel. Israel is a zionistic state created by haters killers and wrongdoers.
abuadam10 2 years ago
Why do you Muslims hate Jews? Why are you people racists?
modelfan1979 2 years ago 2
Muslims have been racist since the beginning of time.
They are not speaking for themselves. There is no individuality in such a conformist faith as Islam.
So these people are not speaking for themselves. They are speaking for the Ummah.
Tom101229 2 years ago
That's incorrect. The Muslim world never had the same widespread, institutionalized and popular anti-semitism that was seen in Europe. This truth doesn't matter now though because the illegal racist puppet state of Israel must be defended.
shakeystevensVIII 2 years ago
Ok. So now in Europe, Jews have to fear for their lives if they walk down the street? They can't move to some countries in Europe because their are laws preventing them from going there or they would be killed very quickly if they went there? No, wait, I'm thinking of the Middle East, not Europe.
The Muslim world is far more anti-semitic and racist than Israel or the West. The first step in handling a problem is facing the fact that it exists. Jews have their own state. Get over it.
modelfan1979 2 years ago
I wouldn't say it's more racist than Israel. As a country founded exclusively for one single group Israel is bound to have a racist outlook, and the perpetual land thieving and ethnic cleansing bears this out. The anti-semitism propagated by some in the Muslim world today was something imported from Europe in response to the founding of Israel and their treatment of the natives. The idea promoted by Zionists today that Muslims have always been antisemitic is a modern politically-motivated lie.
shakeystevensVIII 2 years ago
Ok. So Israel is the state of the Jews. The vatican is a state for Catholics. Italy is a state for Italians. Germany is a state for Germans. Many races and some religious groups have their own countries. This is nothing unusual.
As to your statements on Israel and anti-Semitism you are either a Muslim praciticing Taqiyya or a leftist who is either lying to me or doesn't know history. The Muslims have ALWAYS, since the beginning, considered Jews and Christians sub-humans. Just read the Koran.
modelfan1979 2 years ago
Is that in the same way as a Christian would look down on a non-Christian as being a 'heathen'? You have merely been manipulated to think a certain way so that you'll support the 'War on Terror', and judging by the level of your intelligence you were a sitting duck for such manipulation. It amazes me that the US is the world capital of anti-Muslim bigotry and yet its Muslim population is miniscule. Coincidentally, the US has started many wars in Muslim countries. Do you find this coincidental?
shakeystevensVIII 2 years ago
No. You are confused. Almost none of my information comes from the American media. A lot of information I have about the Muslim world comes from interviews with prominent Muslims or news programs, aired in Muslim countries in Arabic. Watching English language TV is a waste of time. The jihadists lie all the time when talking in English.
Don't even bother trying to blame terrorism on America's foreign policy. Islamic attacks on America have occured since the beginning of the country.
modelfan1979 2 years ago
So you can speak Arabic? These so-called spokespeople like that Shoebat guy or that other woman who's name I can't remember are out to make a quick buck by telling Americans what they want to hear, like the majority of American so-called 'intellectuals' And dont come out with shit like 'Islamic attacks on America have occured since the beginning of the country' and then say you dont get your info from American media. Name one of these attacks that occured prior to US imperial actions in the ME?
shakeystevensVIII 2 years ago 2
No. But I have friends who are Arabs who can.And the answer to your question, do the Barbary Wars ring a bell? Shortly after America won independence from Great Britain, a number of North African Muslim countries, most of whom were under the Islamic caliphate began attacking US ships and enslaving Americans. At the time we had no navy and were no possible threat. When John Adams went to negotiate with them, they said according to the Koran, we were infidels who had to pay tribute or be attacked.
modelfan1979 2 years ago
What has that got to do with anything that's going on today? Anyway, that's piracy not fundamentalist terrorism. Also, I know you're lying about having Arab friends. You're just going to have to face up to America's responsibility for their foreign policy actions rather than looking for scapegoats.
shakeystevensVIII 2 years ago 2
Nothing. But the point is, that we have been considered infidels since this country was founded. We have been attacked by Muslims since this country was founded. This doesn't mean that all Muslims are bad. Far from it, a lot of my information on the Middle East comes from Arab Muslims and Christians, especially Christians, who by the way are horribly mistreated by the Muslim governments. People who choose to convert to Christianity get killed. How is that America's fault?
modelfan1979 2 years ago
Who are these 'Muslim governments' that anti-Muslim people go on about? No Muslim elected the Saudi regime. It was the British who chose a leader of the Wahhabi sect to control that region of the ME. America continues to support them. There are other leaders who are also repressive who are sponsored by the West. The reason they are repressive is because they are unrepresentative and have no popular support amongst their people. So how could they have normal societies? Its not about Islam.
shakeystevensVIII 2 years ago 2
Ok. But every government that has been elected in in the Middle East has contained elements of Islamic law, such as honor killings and killing of converts from Islam. The current regimes are nothing compared to what would happen if, for example, the Muslim Brotherhood or other Islamic radicals took over. And they would win elections throughout the Middle East if held today. I have to agree with a great Islamic scholar, Dr. Tafwik Hamid, in that religion needs to be seperated from government.
modelfan1979 2 years ago
Why do they need elements of Islamic law? To give themselves a kind of legitimacy - because they don't have popular legitimacy. They weren't elected. Also, the rise in fundamentalism is directly related to the lack of legitimacy these govts have. Fundamentalists are now seen by some as the only alternative. That wasn't always the case though. Did you know - the PLO once incorporated leftist and secular elements, but these were persecuted by Israel while Hamas was, on the other hand, encouraged.
shakeystevensVIII 2 years ago 2
Yes. Hamas was supported by Israel before they started committed terrorist actions and blowing up Jews. Because up until that point, they were simply an "educational" organization.
As to radical Muslims versus radical leftists, they are both very similar. They believe in creating a perfect society and they don't care how many people they have to murder in cold blood in order to do this, whether they be Jews, Christians, or other Muslims.
modelfan1979 2 years ago
One other question for you. What foreign policy mistake did Russia make to deserve the horrible massacre of children that was carried out by radical Muslims a few years ago? What "crime" did these children commit? What "crime" did Africans commit that caused Muslim armies to enslave millions of Africans and other Muslims to kill at least 100 million Africans in the over 1,000 year Muslim Arab slave trade, which dealt in African slaves. Explain that.
modelfan1979 2 years ago
We don't look down on the Muslim world. In fact, there have been a number of Imams that were invited to Washington to speak with Bush when he was in office.
When Obama came became President, one of the people leading prayers was the leader of a major American Islamic organization.
Why is the Arabic world the center of anti-Christian and anti-Jew bigotry? Is that because the Muslims have killed so many? Or are they simply being manipulated by their leaders?
modelfan1979 2 years ago
I'll look down on the muslim world for you.
KenMacMillan 2 years ago
the professional victim is still at it.
JewsBackstabAmerica 2 years ago
WHY ARE YOU SO HATEFULL? Did a Jew make you try matah ball soup? What does a dentist in Miami have to do with your hatred? Get over your hate, or stew in it until you choke. Who cares what you think.
AlyBlack 2 years ago
The Zionists hyjacked the Jewisch religion.
Jew is not the equivalent of a Zionist
Zionist could be A JEw, Christian, Muslim etc. Zionists are terrorists and babykillers.
abuadam10 2 years ago
You're fucking stupid. Zionism means the support for a Jewish State in the Middle East. Heredi Jews are evil and support the holocaust so next time think what you're saying. You can't even spell "Jewish".
IsraeliGuerrilla 2 years ago
The most fortunate of ALL Muslims in the Middle East are those who have been blessed with Israeli citizenship, the only country in the Middle East where a Muslim can enjoy the fruits of life in a democratic society.
JimQualls 2 years ago 4
Being Jewish is a lot more then being religious. Are all Italians Catholic?
Jews are a people and a religion. I am a secular Jew who supports Zionism because I recognize the need for a Jewish homeland due to the persercution of a tiny minority of GOOD people who only want to live in peace and produce productive people, ideas, arts and science.
AlyBlack 2 years ago
how does North Dakota sound?
my question to you is why Palestine? its almost like you wake up tomorrow and Native Americans show up with Armored Tanks and Assault Rifles killing your family blowing up your houses to make their teepee houses wanting their land back because their gods promised this land to them? why cause this BIG a problem to achieve a simple goal go make ur land somewhere else where u will enjoy ALOT more peace so u can continue on with ur advances in modern sciences and arts.
mfaka316 2 years ago
What a hypocrite you are. North Dakota had native Americans, so you suggest people, born for thousands of years in the JUDEA displace Americans who displaced Indians, all so Muslims, (only 600 years of history) can have the entire middle east, instead of allowing the Jews to live peacefully in the land they were born in from 6000 years ago.
Israel is less then 1/10th of 1 percent of the middle east, thats 99.9% for Arabs, who are also taking over Europe now and have the US in their sights.
AlyBlack 2 years ago
Explain why the Palestinian to Isreali civilian death ratios were often 20:1 and 3:1 even 300:1, but rarely 1:1?
Were the Palestinians just so bad at terrorizing the Israelis that they killed more of themselves in the process?
paganiniGOGO 2 years ago
Yes, actually many of the Palestinian deaths are caused by other Palestinians not by Israelis.
There is also no doubt that the Israelis are better armed and superior soldiers. But they are not the aggressors, they are defending themselves.
All good reasons for the Palestinians to aim for peace and not continue to murder Israeli civilians.
AlyBlack 2 years ago
300:1?
You're saying 300 Palestinians tried to kill 1 Israeli and succeeded but accidentally killed themselves?
You really have to think of some really creative fabrications when your faced with such a piercing fact.
paganiniGOGO 2 years ago
Why does there have to be death ratios? Give peace a chance, no fabrication.
AlyBlack 2 years ago
I can explain it. The reason why more Palestinian Deaths are reported than Israel ones is because more deaths of Palestinians are reported than Israeli ones. And why the Israel government doesn't report is that it works in favor of them not reporting as many casualties of their people that actually does happen.
Anyways, why does it even matter that it is not 1:1? What kind of stupidity are you going on about? This is retarded.
Tom101229 2 years ago
Do you even speak English?
I said anywhere from twice, to twenty times to 300 times as many Palestinian civilians die than Israelis.
At the same time, Israeli deaths are reported over 7 times as much.
So in conclusion:
way more palestinians die than Israelis
way more israeli deaths are reported.
You are really stupid.
paganiniGOGO 2 years ago
I dunno. What language am I speaking.
"I said anywhere from twice, to twenty times to 300 times as many Palestinian civilians die than Israelis."
And that does not matter. Again I must tell you. It does not matter how many Palestinians die compare to Israelis. Should it be fair that as many Nazis die as Americans during WWII?
And in Palestine and in Islam, there are no Civilians. Just potential Suicide Bombers and paramilitary fighters.
Tom101229 2 years ago
Are you calling all Palestinians potential suicide bombers?
Are you saying Palestinian civilians deserve to be kielld?
I'm sorry but that's racism.
You are a disgusting Nazi pig.
paganiniGOGO 2 years ago
Well actually no, because Christian Palestinians don't believe in Jihad.
What would consider to be a civilian when there are programs in Gaza strictly devouted to military education and prepareness for children. When children are soldier, there are no civilians. How can there be? What would be a civilian?
Racism? HAHAHAHA! I'm a racist? You are idiot. Name calling won't get anywhere.
"You are a disgusting Nazi pig. "
If I was a Nazi, I would be like you. HAHAHA!
Tom101229 2 years ago
"At the same time, Israeli deaths are reported over 7 times as much."
What are you talking about? Israelis reporting their deaths more than Palestinians. That is ludicrous. Do you even have proof? Of course not.
"way more palestinians die than Israelis"
Which doesn't mean anything given that Palestinians would soon outnumber Israelis.
"way more israeli deaths are reported."
No. Way more stupidity from you without a fact check.
"You are really stupid."
LMFAO at your face!
Tom101229 2 years ago
Do I have proof?
In the first study period The Times reported Israeli deaths at a rate 2.8 times higher than Palestinian deaths, and in 2004 this rate increased by almost 30%, to 3.6, widening still further the disparity in coverage. The Times coverage of childrens deaths was even more skewed. In the first year of the current uprising, Israeli childrens deaths were reported at 6.8 times the rate of Palestinian childrens deaths.
paganiniGOGO 2 years ago
In 2004 this differential also increased, with deaths of Israeli children covered at a rate 7.3 times greater than the deaths of Palestinian children. Given that in 2004 22 times more Palestinian children were killed than Israeli children, this category holds particular importance. We could find no basis on which to justify this inequality in coverage
paganiniGOGO 2 years ago
This is from a study of bias in the New York Times, a so called left wing paper.
paganiniGOGO 2 years ago
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paganiniGOGO 2 years ago
That Media is corrupt. And sending links is strictly forbidden on youtube, prepare to have your account suspended, when this is reported. Hey I lost one of my accounts for doing this, so you will you. There is no special exemptions and it is one of their rules. HAHA!
Tom101229 2 years ago
And that comes from that link of your above? If Americans knew or some shit like that?
Israeli children deaths are not reported 7.3 times more than Palestinians, because Palestinians and anti-ZIonists and anti-semitics own all the news corporations. NONE ARE PRO-ISRAELI! Not even Fox. Fox is part of the Christian Network and even some of their members had suggest that the Israels all covert to Christianity. They don't care what happens to Israeli, they don't want a Muslim Jerusalem.
Tom101229 2 years ago
U.S. supports Israel unilaterally, U.S. coporations own the media, that is why the media is biased towards Israel.
That doesn't it prove the fact though.
What proves it are objective studies, such as the one I cited.
paganiniGOGO 2 years ago
you have proven yourself to be a complete idiot.
I gave you a fact, you chose to ignore it, while giving no facts yourself.
Just your 'theories' about anti-zionism which is so far fetched even right wingers don't believe it.
paganiniGOGO 2 years ago
Well to you that is actually a good thing, because you are delusional and make up objective studies.
A fact is something with solid material behind like a book or a website, what you've showed me is just your word.
I will ignore anything that is not supported by a book or a website.
There is nothing for me to refute with evidence, since you lack providing me evidence to refute.
A theory still holds substance, you imbecile.
Well at least my theory doesn't help muslims kill jews
Tom101229 2 years ago
I gave you a link, remember?
The statistics I told you were all fact, even right wingers can't deny facts if they're directly faced with them.
You clearly don't believe in science.
Give me a fact, I will not deny it like an idiot.
You are literally too dumb to argue with.
paganiniGOGO 2 years ago
"U.S. supports Israel unilaterally"
Only the government does. And the government has no control over the new corporations.
"U.S. coporations own the media, that is why the media is biased towards Israel."
Yeah that is true, it is biased against Israel. Almost all News Corporations are run by anti-semites. Even corporations that aren't entirely news oriented, like Disney are runned by anti-semites.
You can call bullshit an objective study, doesn't change the fact is is just your word
Tom101229 2 years ago
And you still lack proving me proof. You can state as much bullshit as you want but if you don't have an unbaised source, you have nothing.
Tom101229 2 years ago
its an objective study you idiot
paganiniGOGO 2 years ago
Oh so it doesn't exist, huh? Well you cannot provide me proof, so what else is there to believe. To believe something that has nothing solid to be presented is hearsay, and ot believe hearsay is ludicrous.
It is your word versus mine. Too bad you cannot win, huh? LOL!
Tom101229 2 years ago
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winkelsbergkatif7 2 years ago
Running around Youtube and other blog sites screaming bloodly murder agaisnt Jews because you don't like Israel or her policies DOES increase hatred which leads to VIOLENCE so YES Anti-Zionism does equal Antisemitism. Period.
AlyBlack 3 years ago
actually i also do think that one should differentiate between antisemitism and antizionism because from my point of view they are two different things.. although i have to agree on that, that probably the main cause for antisemitism is antizionism and the fact that many people tend to confuse them and start to mix them up..
Qualquappe 3 years ago
Respeto entre todos.
Nadie tiene NUNCA toda la verdad.
Humildad y diálogo.
debartzen 3 years ago
No, debartzen, no humilidad y no respecto entre todos.
notjustanotherface 2 years ago
this video's too funny and my fav
asteinbaum1 3 years ago
What is the name of the song please and where can I download it from?
FightForForce 3 years ago
Are you 100% sure anti-Zionism is the new form of anti-semitism?
Have you considered all the other possibilities first?
Because I can think of one or two reasons that might lead people to adopt anti-Zionist views apart from sheer racism.
(In fact opposition to racism is one of these very reasons!)
shakeystevensVIII 3 years ago
Yes. So can I.
They are a complete delusional lunatic.
Or, they are completely misinformed about the situation in the Middle East.
modelfan1979 2 years ago
Yeah that's what people always say. If a person is opposed to Zionism then they will be told "you don't understand the situation". So why don't you explain this big mystery that you believe anti-Zionists aren't able to grasp?
shakeystevensVIII 2 years ago
Let me make this really simple.
Hamas and Fatah = Evil
Hamas and Fatah kill Israelis and innocent Palestinians and other Arabs. These two groups have actually killed more innocent Arabs than they have Jews.
Israel = good
Israel is the only non-racist, non-sexist country in the Middle East = good.
modelfan1979 2 years ago
So it's a simple battle of good versus evil like a children's fairy story?
shakeystevensVIII 2 years ago
Not quite as simple as a fairy tail.
But is very simple to understand. If people will only open their eyes. Something that so many leftists / Muslims are unwilling to do.
modelfan1979 2 years ago
You live in a country with the most one-sided biased coverage of the Palestine conflict in the world and despite this attempt to manipulate public opinion more and more Americans are becoming aware of what Israel does and are turning against it. These people aren't necessarily 'leftists' or any other term that you want to bandy about.
shakeystevensVIII 2 years ago
Being against the Israeli government and it's methods of "protection" do not have the slightest thing to do with being an anti-semite. In fact to make such a claim is once more engaging in universal deceit to help enhance the zionist agenda.
By crafting the mindset that being anti-zionist is to be anti-Jew, then you will successfully limit the amount of criticism Israel gets for fear of being labeled an anti-semite. So good job. This is the most deceitful claim I have heard in quite some time.
CaseRed0605 3 years ago 2
Israeli defence forces are terrorists themselves. Zionism is a threat to the world. AIPAC and ADL are corrupt organizations.
vvztube 3 years ago 2
have ever asked yourselves how did the jews survive for hundreds of years among the arab, christian ,and muslim communites in jerosalem, baghdad, morroco, cairo and Yemen? they were accepted . they were living peacefully practicing thier beliefs. when %2
zoozajwn 3 years ago
Anti-Zionism and Anti-Semitism are two completely different things. There are many Jews against Zionism, but the Zionists try to label them as self hating Jews. Zionists always play the race card.
Joefreiheit 3 years ago 5
Jews have a homeland now. Too bad if you don't like it. There are not "many" Jews who are anti Zionist, just a few nut jobs who value their own interests over the good of the Jewish people
Israelis have contributed so much to this world. Feel free to boycott your computer and cell phone since much of the current technology was developed by Israelis (aka Zionists).
Being a Zionist means loving Israel, which is their homeland. Its like saying if you love America you are a proud American.
AlyBlack 3 years ago
They don´t come from Israel, they come from Khazaria and Eastern Europe.
Let the real Jews have the homeland not the fake ones. The khazzarian jews are converts to Judiasm
afrolatino380 2 years ago
First, what are you doing on this board, you are LOOKING for a chance to insult Jews so if the shoe fits you obviously wear it.
Second, your "Khazar" claims are just STUPID. If people practice a religion and are persercuted under it then they are a member of that religion. The Khazars whom you refer intermarried(forceably) with Jews and got their religion from Jewish relatives and became Jews hundreds of years ago
How many generations does it take to "really" be muslim if you convert?
HATER
AlyBlack 2 years ago
No one was forced to convert, how does a carvan with 2000 people violently convert an entire area. Know the history, the king at the time for politcal reasons converted to Judiasm. Futhermore, A jew can´t marry a non jew. That was the reason for conversion. I don´t insult people only tell them the truth.
afrolatino380 2 years ago
Anti-Zionism does not equal anti-Semitism. This tactic only exists to suppress opposing viewpoints, critical thinking, and dissenting voices which are all healthy ways in which to argue POLICY. Just because you disagree with Israeli policy does not make you anti-semetic. Way to use the same tactics of the people who oppressed you in Germany.
seekthetruth77 3 years ago 2
people who put 'truth' in their name tend to be telling anything but that.
kaiwaig 3 years ago 3
According to you're profile kaiwaig it says that you don't care what somebody's religion is as long as it remains private and doesn't force itself in the public sphere. However Israels use the justification of religion to commit terrible acts of violence on innocent civilians so you're a hypocrite. In my other post here I'm arguing the ability to question policy so seeing that you're gay does that make it wrong to question anti-gay policy that would discriminate against people like yourself?
seekthetruth77 3 years ago
your name is seekthetruth but apparently you dont notice that were attacking a country that has been attacking us for thousands and thousands of years. there are no anti-palestinian policies in israel that is all bullshit, i used to live there and i had palestinian friends who were ZIONIST thats right palestinian ZIONIStS!
orenben1 3 years ago
Yes Exactly. You are so right. It is funny. There are some Palestinians who are pro-Israel, and there are some Jews that are anti-Zionist and hate their own people.
Race doesn't matter.
modelfan1979 2 years ago
please show me one palestinian zionist (lol) i want to see one.
do you have any link or something?
but what i do know is that there are akwakened people like naturei kharta and jews against zionism etc. which are true religios (btw. religion is stupid) people and not rightextremist jewish nationalists called zionists.
zer77o 2 years ago
Sure. Walid Shoebat. Massab Yousef. There are others but they aren't vocal about it, since they are afraid of being killed by other Palestinians as thousands of innocent Palestinians have, for disagreeing with Fatah or Hamas.
modelfan1979 2 years ago
i did no know that. thanks
zer77o 2 years ago
Salam Fayyad, the Prime Minister of the Palestinian National Authority is a Palestinian Zionist.
Any member of the Palestinian Popular Struggle Front.
Right Extremist Jews Nationalists are not called ZIonists. ANYONE WHO SUPPORTS THE FOUNDATION OF ISRAEL IS CALLED A ZIONIST even if they were a leftist.
Tom101229 2 years ago
thats very interesting, thank you for the info
zer77o 2 years ago
maybe by "we will wipe you dirty Jews off," the antizionist just meant he would tenderly care for any nonzionist Jew who falls down & got some dirt on his face or something
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EncompassedRunner 3 years ago
nazi, not nazist, your grammer is as stupid as your thoughts.
Shmoofles 3 years ago 3