GONG BAO TIAN BA GUA COMBAT SET TUTORIAL part 2

[principledpower]

Re: Your Christian-Training9 clip

Very impressive. Keep up the good work.

[Yakshinian]

Do you guys ever spar?

[principledpower]

Yes!

[Yakshinian]

It would be very interesting to see some of that.

[principledpower]

Richard (in white) is a very accomplished practitioner. I give him a lot of credit for learning this new language. These lessons were made in 2007, so all I have to show is what we taped.

[principledpower]

Agreed.

[principledpower]

With Richard (white top), given his greater experience and strength, I'd probably have to apply more shocking power to that entrance move - accordingly modifying the left fist to attack pressure points on his right wrist.

[CaptainMcNugget]

Hey Michael

I've noticed that the phoenix fist has a way of making the energy in the hand feel focused and directed, whether applying it as a strike in a forward direction with the protruding knuckle or in a downwards direction with the bottom side of the palm as in a hammer fist strike.. Interesting to learn you can use it to 'capture your opponents centre', I would love to learn that! lol

Intriguing to learn that the PF relates to the head palm in BGQ,

Thanks for the response

Luke

[principledpower]

Capturing the opponent's center is a most distinguishing feature of BGQ. Without this as the goal of the eight palms, techniques aren't evolved beyond earlier developed MA systems. Footwork is vital to learning this, so that it is the whole body rather than just the hand that is in contact with the opponent.

[CaptainMcNugget]

Great stuff, thanks for sharing.

May I ask why you use what looks like a 'phoenix fist' when moving the opponent at 3:10 in the vid? Does it somehow make the wrist more connected to the elbow, shoulder, body etc?

Very interesting in any case

Best,

Luke

[principledpower]

Luke,

Holding my fist in that fashion helped me direct my strength along a line to capture my opponents center. I've found it hard to otherwise use the fist to accomplish this. It was spontaneous, even though FYI I learned that the phoenix fist in ba gua quan is an attribute of the head trigram (ie lion palm).

Thanks for your question.

Michael