Iraq War Veterans Speak Out against the war

[giovanna805]

the real terrorists are Bush and Obama (yes he lied to all of us)

[bubs848]

the terrorists brought this on themselves on 911. we need to kill those monsters before they can strike back.

[mahyarmohaghegh]

hahahahah

man ur countries defense sucks

iran is surrounded by American Bases and its the americans who are scared HAHAHAHAH

its too funny to me that you think the CIA and HLS (home land security) are really weak at what they do.

i have never seen such a propagandized society.

[bubs848]

if only it were that simple. terrorists hide in mountain caves in the most remote and lawless regions of iraq (like spineless cockroaches). we cant just march in there; it's unfamiliar terrain and has some of the most hostile terrorists around.

and if it werent for pathetic liberal politicians, we'd be more aggressive in the war.

[edstar83]

@bubs848 *facepalm*  man you need to wake up. soon.

[justletuslive]

As an observer i wish America the best of luck, i have no anger and no range or contempt against you. Yes you've killed over one million of my brothers in Iraq and supported israel to kill my brothers in Palestine and Afghanistan and ignored Sudan when they needed. I hold no contempt. And we wish you the best of luck in your upcoming Civil war.

[mahyarmohaghegh]

HAHAHAHHA

YESSS HAHAHAHA

tats too funny

[28Quinton]

@justletuslive In our defense we have been lied to for some time, it's a matter of getting the truth out. I'm truly sorry for what we have done. I can only hope that civil war starts soon. I know who we should be fighting.

[Sensfan613]

insurgents and collaborators??!?!

how about American troops are insurgents since this is a fucking ILLEGAL war..

people discuss this war as if its legal and Insurgents are terrorist.

State Terrorism is Terrorism fucking idiots.

PROTEST YOUR GOVERNMENT

[mikes7786]

now we understand 911

[GMBregoli]

Traitors!!!!

[DVincentW]

War is not a movie.

One exclamation point is enough.

Go read a book .

Goose step to Ws lies.

[gopbloze]

I can only assume you're calling them traitors because you had a very positive experience fighting in Iraq, right?

[BloodFeaster]

It never ceases to amaze me how people who are opposed to war and are proponents of peace are somehow not as "good" an American citizen as the bloodthirsty ones. The ones who either don't care or don't know that close to 4,000 Americans have died because of a failed policy enacted by our government. Not to mention the tens of thousands of unarmed Iraqi civillians who have been brutally killed. Of all the people who have the right to criticize the war our veterans have eanred it the most.

[GMBregoli]

''Not to mention the tens of thousands of unarmed Iraqi civillians who have been brutally killed.'' They did it to themselves. If America wanted to use it's full military power in Iraq it could have and our dead wouldn't be anywhere near 4000.

[BloodFeaster]

Are you suggesting that civillians are responsible for their own deaths? They don't control the fighting. They are getting caught in the cross fire. Keep in mind the U.S. invaded Iraq and started this war and as such should shoulder responsibility for civillian casualties. After all, hasn't the White House been saying how we are over there to help Iraq? I don't think killing unarmed civillians is "helping" the country or the region at all (not to mention improving our image in the region).

[GMBregoli]

The Iraqi suicide bombers are what killed most of the civilians in Iraq. Not the U.S. In total war there are no civilians. Look at 9/11 do you think the type of enemy we dealing with cares about civilians?

[BloodFeaster]

Terroist do not. That is supposed to be the difference bewteen us and them. If we take the same actions as they do without regard for civillians aren't we just as bad as they are? Also, you might want to read some of the Pentagon reports that break down the non-combatant deaths. I think you would be surprised.

[GMBregoli]

''Terroist do not. That is supposed to be the difference bewteen us and them.''

I know, but this enemy wears no uniform and they hide in civilian areas because they know it's harder for the U.S. to bomb them if they hide within populated areas. The enemy over ain't dumb their far from it.

[BloodFeaster]

Very true. I don't know what the solutiuon is to that. Of course if we had not invaded this would not be a concern in Iraq. However, the point is well taken as it is still happening in Afghanistan.

[GMBregoli]

And when you say they don't control the fighting I don't agree with that. Because I've heard stories about civilians knowing that a bomb was planted on a road soldiers were traveling on and civilians didn't tell them. So the soldiers would go down it and get blown up, while the civilians knew full well that there was a bomb waiting for our troops on the road.

[BloodFeaster]

I agree that some civillians choose to side with the insurgents. I consider them to be collaborators. However, you can't tell me all of them are collaborators. What about the incident in Hidartha? Were they all insurgent collaborators?

[GMBregoli]

''What about the incident in Hidartha?''

What happened in Hidartha? And no I don't think all of them are collaborators.

[BloodFeaster]

I mispoke. It was Haditha. 24 unarmed civillians were killed by U.S. forces.

[GMBregoli]

''U.S. invaded Iraq and started this war and as such should shoulder responsibility for civillian casualties.''

And the terrorist who blow themselves up in a street side market full of people are just saints to you I suppose?

[BloodFeaster]

No. They are typically brain washed fanatics. Do you disagree that the U.S. invaded Iraq and started the war? Did Iraq declare war on the U.S. and attack first?

[GMBregoli]

''U.S. invaded Iraq and started the war?''

Yeah but before 2003 the U.S. along with the U.N. was bombing Iraq for something like 12 year before this war enforcing the no fly zones and all that jazz. So Iraq was getting bombed way before 2003.

[BloodFeaster]

Selective bombing targets were approved by a U.N. Coalition. This was a part of the "no-fly zones" policy. The purpose being humanitarian protection of both Kurds in the north & Shiites in the south. They were never intended as a prelude to a full scale invasion. This brings us back to the reasons for the full scale invasion in 2003. According to our government they were the production of chemical & nuclear weapons (which turned out to be untrue).