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am not a communist but I think the ideas of Ernesto Guevara why he fought to death as a fair and proved necessary for humanity I strongly believe that the state should take over the things necessary to live such as education, health, housing and feeding But I also believe that private enterprise is needed for an man to release its consumer nature but covered with the above people do not die for something as unusual as hunger.
it is impossible to crate an american law or policy that will please everyone when america consists of such a diversity of ethnic groups, cultures, and so on.
-direction. People can transform greed, arrogance, ignorance. We can! We've just got to take action. Humanism. Love. Art. Compassion. Courage. Wisdom. This can all be the foundation of this moment & the future of society if we all make this the foundation of our own life's philosophy now & help each other in the way. Alright! by the way, no hate to those who disagree. I just stand for what I believe & out of appreciation I desire to share. Peace
So, if you dont like the state of the world, which is completely & clearly understandable & logical, then you be the change you want to see. People will always talk good or shit about one. For ex. Obama/Flobots/whoever. Whats important is that we, individually, embrace life's fundamental truth, embodying life's dignity, & take action. Small or big. We can change.. If the people work together, we can change the direction we're taking this planet. But it starts with each one redirecting they'r own
WOW! I just learned of Flobots & as soon as I did I learned that they are stiring shit up!!!! By they're lyrics, its essence & all the discussion its inspiring in between different perspectives.
Just want to express mine real quick: I care about the world. I care about my happiness. & life has showned over & over that, since we are all connected in the immeasurable web of causality, my life is one with yours, & they both work together. Thats why Marley sings ONE LOVE & Flobots as well.
If you are for a politician, you are for a liar. That's all there is to it. Government is a necessary evil, and it will always be that way because free will makes it so anarchy won't work. The world sucks, but it will never change enough for everyone to be happy all the time.
You're right, but honestly, its not government. It's people. Government doesn't work for the same reason anarchy doesn't work. You can't ever get away from human greed. Ever.
Obama is a sign of fake progress in this country. The establishment knew this would appear that way. And if u disagree with Obama, they are doing what I knew they would, they say u r racist if u dont like his actions and policies. He works for the big bankers/corporations not the citizens. He is a puppet like Bush was. The establishment wouldnt allow an outsider who actually respresents the citizens to get into the presidency.
No. People that are against taxes are people that work for big bankers/corporations. Read George Orwell's 1984 sometime. You're the kind of guy that changes your opinion based on what FOX news(or other conservative opinion post) tells you to. Big corporations HATE Obama because he promotes higher taxes, which means less money. The establishment doesn't allow it because of the ELECTORAL COLLEGE. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT.
@JamJHolmes exactly, it will never stop until the american people wake up and change the system, no more winner take all votes, no more 2 party system only, no more fucked up media (stop watching and do your own research).
@AlexIsSmalll Rage Against The Machine: Song Title - Freedom / Guys for those of you that haven't had a chance to listen to Rage Against The Machine, Download all their albums you won't regret it. Peace :)
wow some people on the internet really have trouble comprehending things. i never said i agreed with this i just said he was mixed up and stated the facts of the situation. i didnt mean to type universal health care either i really meant socialized which isnt THAT much better but w/e i don't make his decisions he does, so go yell at him
War: But he voted against it originally. Increasing funding for it is to allow our troops to have adequate supplies.
Clean Coal: Anthracite, pure, clean coal. Throw a few scrubbers on the stack, and boom, only steam coming out. The ash? Used in cement, as is alot of other biproducts.
Health care: No, that would be lack of proper health care.
The bailout: Um... more like, stealing from the American people and giving it to the rich. You really aren't too smart are you. If you are talking about the canceling of tax breaks, you are still a dumbass. Seriously, why do the rich get special discounts on taxes for having more money, when the people that are struggling to live comfortably get nothing. I support taking from the corrupt, and giving to the people who actually work for aliving
The US starts a load of wars and just cantbe bothered to clear them up and they drag everyone else into it if the need help. During the cold war russia practicly had a nuke pointing at my doorstep because the US had a n airbase nearby CANT YOU STICK TO YOUR OWN BLOODY COUNTRY.
We should withdraw American troops. Let's just leave who cares about all the genocide that will start when we do. It's cool to just start something then leave innocent people to deal with the chaos. Thats really mature right? America should just not enter the next big war. Let Europe do it. Like remember all the aide they sent after that huge tsunami? America didn't do nothing. It was all Europe to the rescue!
Agreed & thumbs up, but (hey yank) mind cleaning up after Katrina, or is your half white (and half black!!!!!!! OMG) president too busy being the new cool kid @ school?
Like other people have already said, withdrawal is a SLOW process. Retreating or evacuating is instantaneous. You can't just make everyone pack up and run.
Yep, and your government is just perfect, huh? Why don't you open your EYES....it's not just the US. Wanna tell me how great Pasok was?? Wanna tell me how perfect that corruption scandal was? The looting of public wealth under socialist rule? Yeah...it's not just the US huh...Turns out Greece has some dirty laundry as well...........
Too bad Obama isn't going to end the war. So we went from on to the other. Republicrats will never give up power. We need someone who pisses both sides off. Not independents. Libertarians!
Just becouse you OFFICIALY withdraw the troops dosent mean its an instintanious thing. It takes months opon months maybe years to call back all current opperations.
We've "officially withdrawn" troops from many different wars and still left bases and troops in them. We have troops in some 160 countries right now. This is called and interventionist foreign policy, which is one of the main causes of 9/11 and other such attacks on the U.S. Our occupation of other nations creates enemies. So yes, I do still feel smart.
raginrenegades - The first half of your sentence is correct - the thoery of communism/marxism as good - it would be a utopian society, but the problem with it is that there are NO righteous men that are willing to set aside their greed and administer communism correctly. Each time that a government has supposedly instated "communism" it has been corrupted by the get go by corrupt leaders. The ONLY way communism can work is if it is administered by JESUS CHRIST himself upon his 2nd coming.
ists of today are just branches of the Democratic Party. They stand for what ever the Democratic Party stands for. The activists of the 60s and 70s and even the punk moment of the 70s and 80s were the last of the true grass roots rebels. Now days even Rage Against the Machine is part of the Machine.
@JoritHillendahl but even if the leaders are not totally greedy i still think that the rocket scientist should be paid more than the man who takes out his trash. call me a capitalist freak but i think its only fair
@JoritHillendahl Thats the thing. Without capitolism there is less ambition because why gp tp school for 6 years to be a doctor when you will only make a little more than the guy who dropped out. Everybody is at least a little greedy and will work harder if they think it will pay off for them.
@skiddlecrumms Communism isnt about ambition, it's about control; capitalism is seen as keeping economic and political control in the hands of a minority that actively exploits the majority for survival. Communism merely seeks to over-turn this via transferring the means of production from the hands of the few to the hands of the many thus democratizing it and giving people incentive to operate it. The incentive being that failure to participate results in a loss of democratic power.
@connodude5 dude your so wright, same goes for socialism. humans are so greedy theese days. the only thing that seems to matter anymore is how much better one can be than the other. people need to stop with this capitalism crap, its runing our earth, people need to treat eachother the same treat people equal, as lenin always said “Freedom in capitalist society always remains about the same as it was in ancient Greek republics: Freedom for slave owners.” WERE NOT EQUAL, ITS NOT FAIR!
Dont worship Zeitgeist. The video only promotes you to think for yourself, instead of letting your country, other people and your religion think for you.
wow ppl have lost their minds. anyone notice that socialism isnt working and never has? Rome tried it and it caused Rome to fall. looks like were next. thanks alot obama.
that could also of been one of the reasons, but the main was like any other empire that expanded its reach to far, and couldnt hold itself together since it was so big, just like the american empire has so many military bases in other countries, because of our foriegn policies, and now were going bacnkrupt.
pay attention in history class people, empires never last too long.
Rome was totally socialist, I hear you brother. However, Rome's socialism aside, new age socialism makes much more sense than most governments. Communism is bad though, very bad mkay.
nah there are better videos than zeitgeist like loose change, plus it doesn't help that the zeitgeist movies claims on the religions have been disproved. i heard from a few different places that zeitgeist is actually a controlled opposition move put out by the powers that be
ah shoot i don't remember i don't really care cus i'm not really too big on organized religion but if you want to see the opposing views type in "zeitgist exposed" or "zeitgeist refuted".
Ha i don't blame 'em, Zeitgeist was the first serious "conspiracy" documentary I saw. I believed the religious stuff in the movie (i didn't care whether it was true or not, I just thought it was interesting). I actually found the Zeitgeist disproving videos when I was searching for clips of the movie to show to my friend. I think it's really smart by "The Powers That Be" to mix in false information with the truth because I think that's what works best to deceive people.
dude whoever posted this video (ARTISANNEWSSERVICE), u should check all these fuckin comments, they are all some pointless shit that people read and think its true! seriously you should mark at least 80% of these comments as spammed, cause it completely fucks up the video, and half these people talk about has NOTHING to do with the video
unbannable has got the right idea jesus wake up what has osama bin laden got from iraq nothing and bushs father had weapons dealing in iraq and america !! bush made billions from the iraq war !!!
America is not a capitalist state. IT's a fascist state. It has been that way for nearly 100 years. The wealthy elites control the politicians. They just throw you a welfare check every now and again the keep you a sheep
ok idc wht u guys say bout this comment but im going to tell u ppl who wnt the war out of Iraq but this is wht i live by "FREEDOM IS NOT FREE" IN OTHER WORDS IF U TAKE THE WAR OUT OF IRAQ WE WILL HAVE ANOTHER 9/11 KEEP THE WAR IN IRAQ "FREEDOM IS NOT FREE"
Stop calling 9/11 an inside job. You don't know. You're like a fucking preacher trying to shove their bullshit religion down people's throats.
Personally, from what I've seen on both sides, I do not believe it was an inside job. In fact, the Bush administration was far to incompetent for that.
The difference is, you treat the bullshit your fed from "truthers" like it was Jesus himself saying it. None of you question your side or even doubt it.
by an inside job i mean they allowed 9/11 to happen.
there is now doubt things like cheney taking control of norad (or was it rumsfeld) among other things are very suspicious. and the evidence is much greater against the official policy and if the official policy is discredited that means they are covering up something.
which means it was a false flag operation.
personally i think the evidence that has been found to be true is very damning of the offical story.
i did not say muslims didnt attack the USA i said it was an inside job.
the Government Knew about it before hand, they either allowed it to happen thru inaction or they encouraged it.
you have too look at who benefitted the most from 9/11
was it Osama Bin Laden? tell me was it?
no.
it was the government. it was the weapons manufacturers. it was the military. you are too eager to swallow the bullshit propaghanda fed to you by the Government and their faithful servants: CNN, Fox,MSNBC ,Etc.
no osama bin laden claimed to have been the master mind behind the planning of the attack, that doesnt mean that he wasnt being used by the alquada or the taliban or the IRG. You ate that bullshit. He was a media scapgoat like sadam. And maybe some Gmen coordinated their crooked little asses in on the plot. But the gov. as a whole did not allow it or encourage it. There is more to 9/11 than a blatan attack. Ill message you some insight. But its not as crackpot as you make it seem.
actually look up the videos of osama accepting the blame.
they arent him.
the video they found of him accepting blame just happening to be sitting in a garbage bin or something in the middle of afghanistan.
there is also videos where he says he didnt do it that have been varified to be him while the ones he accepts responsibility look nothing like him and there has been experts that say it is not him and the person talking doesnt even speak arabic properly.
war is a part of life. its a instinc for humans. its was one of the things we first knew how to do since the begginning. since all of history there was always war its a habit we cant control its so powererful the greeks even worshiped war as a god. war will be stop when humans go away.
mabye cows are part of our soul, they are built into our DNA and to be a vegetarian, or to raise sheep instead, is going against the very things that make us human.
or perhaps worshipping cows, like worshipping Obama, or Capitalism, are stupid, and in time, the flaws will show themselves.
what the hell do cows have to do wat i said. and how is it misinformed its true we have been fighting since the first human and we dnt worshipe obama and our capitlism is a preety danme good stutcure unlike the rest of them
Wezzyisbeast has a point, but worded it slightly wrong. It's not war that is in our DNA, it's the instinct to cling to survival. And along with that comes the core 7 deadly sins, and maybe Capitalism just emphasizes those flaws in humanity's fundamental thought patterns, made for survival. So maybe being what we all consider a good person is contrary to your human nature. Thus making us act irraltional at times, which is what would have led you to post you comment so brashly. Think?
There's alot of thing people thought would never happen. the day we get off earth is the day we stop warring. It will happen one day, not any time soon, but Atheism is the fastest growing group in the world, and that's a good start.
what? you are completely uneducated on the subject. atheism isnt even close to being the fastest growing group in the world. actually islam is by far. but if you really want to laugh read the bible. it said it would be like this. just fyi agnostic or docetic christianaty is 2nd. atheism is way down on the list.
I meant to say fastest growing group in america. And by atheism i mean non-belief. I consider agnostics atheists, because the definition of an atheist is someone without a belief and agnostics have no beliefs
And i've read the bible. The bible is so general in it's "predictions" that all of the shit it says will happen has BEEN happening since recorded history, there has been countless "Anti-Christ's", floods, wars, plagues, you name it.
in america is plausible. but you also have to factor that 87% of americans already consider themselves christian or believers somehow. but the last gallup i saw awarded wicca the fastest growing religious group. not including people pulling from organized religion due to disassociation with the church. lets face it... the church has done that to themselves. as far as the validity of the bible debate goes. there is a can of worms we could open and argue for years. but i respect your opinion
atheism in percentage of size growth is the fastest growing.
the number of people being converted amongst the major religions is so small that it is statistically irrelevant. the only data that has any real effect on the size of a religion is the number of children they are having.
oh, and its true what he says about the bible "predictions" they talk in riddles and make them so general they could be any event that has occurred since they were made
if you show me where you get your data i would be happy to consider that. but islam conversion is, by no means, irrelevant. especially in europe. africa is the same only with pentecostal christianity. yes islams overall numbers are growing due to child birth in record numbers but so are conversions. i guess we could probably find data to debunk each other all day long. everyone has an agenda aye? as far as validity of the bible... see above comment haha.
socialism will inevitably be the economic system of choice,
this does not mean we must have a brutal dictatorship however, this is not what socialism or marxism is about at all.
as long as there is Capitalism, there will be workers being exploited, and as long as there is workers being exploited, Socialism will be a viable alternative.
once this cold war Generation is gone, and people born after 1991 and all the anti communist propaganda are voting, i expect marxism to come back in a big way
Ya I wish it was the economic system, but it's human nature to be greedy, selfish, and to want to much of everything. I wish socialism would work, it would work better than communism, but with human nature it WOULD turn to a dictatorship, it would be good at first but than slowly the leaders would tur corrupt and we would all be fucked.
it is absolutely untrue that human nature is too be greedy, for thousands of years humans have lived in communal settings, it is just in our Capitalist countries where we are literally programmed to be as greedy as possible right from birth. we can only be successful if we are like the CEO on TV who screwed everybody on his way to the top.
before Europeans came the the Americas, Most of the Natives lived in Communal societies, but i am not proposing a society that is based on the honor system.
before europeans came to the americas natives were often at war with opposing tribes. capitalism has little to do with the greed of people in certain circumstances. was stalin not greedy?
I see you chose not to mention the point i made on war. karl marx's ideas were developed and expanded upon much like sidartha's religious teachings. There hasn't been, to my knowledge, a pure marxist state. Im not trying to attack you opinions but rather supply dissent. no need for ad hominem.
Also my Great-Grandfather (who is Italian) was in Italy during Mussolinis horrible reign of terror, he was a Socialist so I may sound a little biased but I am not trying to be.
No,no,no, I am saying my grandfather was a Socialist, not that horrible Mussolini. Of course my grandfather couldn't say anything about it until Mussolini was dead and the war was over. Sorry for the Misunderstanding.
Unfortunately for us there are jerks o one is willing to work for someone soo many people only want to get by the bare minimum. professor had a class that thought socialism was a good thing (and it is if everyone was perfect) e made the class a socialist environment by meaning everyone got the average grade so everyone got a c the kids who were getting D's decided to stop working and it fell even more this is why socialism wont work socialist democracy is the most viable option.
to say that because some teacher defined everyone getting the same mark as Socialism and then his class broke down, that this is an indication that socialism will not work is irrational.
also, Socialist Democracy or Democratic Socialism are Oxymoronic and just plain Moronic.
we would need some form of Libertarian Socialism AKA Council Communism...a good book on the subject is "The Government in the Future" by Noam Chomsky
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its the COUP and this is boots speak
soad14057 7 months ago
Lol, these 2 groups both believe in war; why the hell would they have played at an anti-war festival?
anonymous3227 1 year ago
@anonymous3227 dude they believe in war against politics when its unfair and shit. not for just fighting for countries and whatever they want
TheWarzaa 1 year ago
am not a communist but I think the ideas of Ernesto Guevara why he fought to death as a fair and proved necessary for humanity I strongly believe that the state should take over the things necessary to live such as education, health, housing and feeding But I also believe that private enterprise is needed for an man to release its consumer nature but covered with the above people do not die for something as unusual as hunger.
ricardiwis 1 year ago
lol 0:14 "they will team up to end the war". playing unbelevable awesome music does actually not help end the war
TheMourningPalace 1 year ago
communism ftw
neokemieze 1 year ago
Change starts from within the individual. Too bad America's individuals are too busy fighting each other.
RomanMathias313 1 year ago
Wow, how's Obama doing at ending the war, Johnny?? Where are the fucking protests now?
WildlyOptimistic1 1 year ago
@WildlyOptimistic1 He said obama was a symbol and he was untill everybody figured out how usless he was.
skiddlecrumms 1 year ago
there was such a huge riot protest, that i was too afraid to go as i have a young son
olddog257 1 year ago
ths video was taken on my birthday august 20 :]
2cool33 1 year ago
it is impossible to crate an american law or policy that will please everyone when america consists of such a diversity of ethnic groups, cultures, and so on.
connodude5 1 year ago
Johnny 5 looks really surprised all the time. 0_0
1777outlaw 1 year ago
i wonder how pissed off they were when the realized obama is just another bush
Daltonn0810 2 years ago 7
How cool, and how inteligently spoken. KUDOS
vinnikiniki 2 years ago
-direction. People can transform greed, arrogance, ignorance. We can! We've just got to take action. Humanism. Love. Art. Compassion. Courage. Wisdom. This can all be the foundation of this moment & the future of society if we all make this the foundation of our own life's philosophy now & help each other in the way. Alright! by the way, no hate to those who disagree. I just stand for what I believe & out of appreciation I desire to share. Peace
benjitobar 2 years ago 5
So, if you dont like the state of the world, which is completely & clearly understandable & logical, then you be the change you want to see. People will always talk good or shit about one. For ex. Obama/Flobots/whoever. Whats important is that we, individually, embrace life's fundamental truth, embodying life's dignity, & take action. Small or big. We can change.. If the people work together, we can change the direction we're taking this planet. But it starts with each one redirecting they'r own
benjitobar 2 years ago 2
WOW! I just learned of Flobots & as soon as I did I learned that they are stiring shit up!!!! By they're lyrics, its essence & all the discussion its inspiring in between different perspectives.
Just want to express mine real quick: I care about the world. I care about my happiness. & life has showned over & over that, since we are all connected in the immeasurable web of causality, my life is one with yours, & they both work together. Thats why Marley sings ONE LOVE & Flobots as well.
benjitobar 2 years ago 2
If you are for a politician, you are for a liar. That's all there is to it. Government is a necessary evil, and it will always be that way because free will makes it so anarchy won't work. The world sucks, but it will never change enough for everyone to be happy all the time.
shivermetimbers13 2 years ago 2
You're right, but honestly, its not government. It's people. Government doesn't work for the same reason anarchy doesn't work. You can't ever get away from human greed. Ever.
ZeroSwitch 2 years ago 3
Obama is a sign of fake progress in this country. The establishment knew this would appear that way. And if u disagree with Obama, they are doing what I knew they would, they say u r racist if u dont like his actions and policies. He works for the big bankers/corporations not the citizens. He is a puppet like Bush was. The establishment wouldnt allow an outsider who actually respresents the citizens to get into the presidency.
JamJHolmes 2 years ago 25
Rhetoric, no matter who it's from (ie. random YouTube rabble rousers,) is still rhetoric.
:)
v0rt3x86 2 years ago
@JamJHolmes
No. People that are against taxes are people that work for big bankers/corporations. Read George Orwell's 1984 sometime. You're the kind of guy that changes your opinion based on what FOX news(or other conservative opinion post) tells you to. Big corporations HATE Obama because he promotes higher taxes, which means less money. The establishment doesn't allow it because of the ELECTORAL COLLEGE. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT.
PyroK8 1 year ago
@JamJHolmes exactly, it will never stop until the american people wake up and change the system, no more winner take all votes, no more 2 party system only, no more fucked up media (stop watching and do your own research).
Anglefan12 1 year ago
@JamJHolmes EXACTLY. by the way can someone please tell me what song is playing in the background around like 0:30
AlexIsSmalll 8 months ago
@AlexIsSmalll Rage Against The Machine: Song Title - Freedom / Guys for those of you that haven't had a chance to listen to Rage Against The Machine, Download all their albums you won't regret it. Peace :)
Necroborgie 7 months ago
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i just took a shit!
jramirez69 2 years ago
If Obama is a good thing then presumably so is
-torture (he likes extraodinary rendition)
-war (he voted to increase funding for it)
-clean coal (its a lie)
-privatized health care (he supports it and its killing millions of Americans)
-indefinite (illegal imprisonment of supposed "terrorists" (innocent men).
-the bailout (stealing from the rich and giving to the poor)
When will Americans wake up and realise that this guy is working to uphold the shitty status quo!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?
foxoftrot 2 years ago
you are really mixed up
-he shut down gitmo which is where all the torture was happening (in other words he didnt want it happening)
- the reason hes putting more funding into the war is so we can bring people BACK FASTER
-he just finished talking about a form of universal health care NOT privatized
-and he increased taxes for those who could afford and gave breaks to those who couldn't
and of course stupid internet radicals grouping all Americans into one group, WERE NOT ALL THE SAME PERSON!!.
shocx112 2 years ago
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without torture, how can you get information from a terrorist? ask him nicely? i dont think so.
universal health care is shit, i dont want to wait a year just so a doctor can tell me i have cancer, by that time ill probably be dead.
and that tax shit, makes little sense, cause everyone pays taxes on their income, no one pays the same.
MashBlink 2 years ago
wow some people on the internet really have trouble comprehending things. i never said i agreed with this i just said he was mixed up and stated the facts of the situation. i didnt mean to type universal health care either i really meant socialized which isnt THAT much better but w/e i don't make his decisions he does, so go yell at him
shocxxxx 2 years ago
LoL
asianelite 2 years ago
obama WILL end all earth as we know it by creating world war 3, he doesn't give a damn!
dirtbiker125dude 2 years ago
Torture: Yes, it is bad, I will give you that.
War: But he voted against it originally. Increasing funding for it is to allow our troops to have adequate supplies.
Clean Coal: Anthracite, pure, clean coal. Throw a few scrubbers on the stack, and boom, only steam coming out. The ash? Used in cement, as is alot of other biproducts.
Health care: No, that would be lack of proper health care.
jadebullet 2 years ago
(Part 2)
imprisonment: That's why he shut down gitmo.
The bailout: Um... more like, stealing from the American people and giving it to the rich. You really aren't too smart are you. If you are talking about the canceling of tax breaks, you are still a dumbass. Seriously, why do the rich get special discounts on taxes for having more money, when the people that are struggling to live comfortably get nothing. I support taking from the corrupt, and giving to the people who actually work for aliving
jadebullet 2 years ago
(Part 3)
And no, he isn't perfect, or even great, but at least he is doing SOMETHING, which you cannot really say for the previous dickwad.
jadebullet 2 years ago
*** HAHA GREAT ***
TeenPorn00797 2 years ago
I don't believe the narrator pronounced coup, as coop. It's pronounced coo, as in CIA back coup to overthrow the indigenous elected government.
Shouldn't they at least find someone who listens to the bands to do voice over work about them?
pilatech 2 years ago
RATM - Freedom
mikescorpio81 2 years ago
The US starts a load of wars and just cantbe bothered to clear them up and they drag everyone else into it if the need help. During the cold war russia practicly had a nuke pointing at my doorstep because the US had a n airbase nearby CANT YOU STICK TO YOUR OWN BLOODY COUNTRY.
firehazard19 2 years ago
That was an amazing concert!
greenguitars884ever 2 years ago
We should withdraw American troops. Let's just leave who cares about all the genocide that will start when we do. It's cool to just start something then leave innocent people to deal with the chaos. Thats really mature right? America should just not enter the next big war. Let Europe do it. Like remember all the aide they sent after that huge tsunami? America didn't do nothing. It was all Europe to the rescue!
rbh1138 2 years ago
Agreed & thumbs up, but (hey yank) mind cleaning up after Katrina, or is your half white (and half black!!!!!!! OMG) president too busy being the new cool kid @ school?
TypicalHuman 2 years ago
Like other people have already said, withdrawal is a SLOW process. Retreating or evacuating is instantaneous. You can't just make everyone pack up and run.
VanguardBeta 2 years ago
oh nuts he's got a busdriver shirt!
I love the Flobots and Busdriver, just about the only rap I like
444DeanMachine 2 years ago
bravo rage against the machine!!!!!
hello from GREECE!!!!!!
too bad that the band break up..
the passed to the next generation pretty cool political messages..us=the wost politics..murderers..
MOUSTAKIAS1 2 years ago
Yep, and your government is just perfect, huh? Why don't you open your EYES....it's not just the US. Wanna tell me how great Pasok was?? Wanna tell me how perfect that corruption scandal was? The looting of public wealth under socialist rule? Yeah...it's not just the US huh...Turns out Greece has some dirty laundry as well...........
gnrev 2 years ago 2
Too bad Obama isn't going to end the war. So we went from on to the other. Republicrats will never give up power. We need someone who pisses both sides off. Not independents. Libertarians!
smallmaniac 2 years ago 4
a Libertarian or a *true* conservative is EXACTLY what we need right now
obxsurfer42 2 years ago 2
We offically withdrew the troops a few days ago. Still feel smart?
sheenomagee666 2 years ago
Just becouse you OFFICIALY withdraw the troops dosent mean its an instintanious thing. It takes months opon months maybe years to call back all current opperations.
Im not arguing the fact but im just saying
languages42 2 years ago
yeah before i finished reading that i was gonna say "the war is offically over, but that doesnt mean everyone is immeiately home."
sheenomagee666 2 years ago
We officially withdrew from the *cities*. That doesn't say anything about the countryside.
iamapeach227 2 years ago
We've "officially withdrawn" troops from many different wars and still left bases and troops in them. We have troops in some 160 countries right now. This is called and interventionist foreign policy, which is one of the main causes of 9/11 and other such attacks on the U.S. Our occupation of other nations creates enemies. So yes, I do still feel smart.
smallmaniac 2 years ago
1:14 lol
"to inspire hope" TO TOMITO for TOMATO
ultimatley life is going on, and obama is ahead of you!
aerlok1 2 years ago
lol, "the coop". I'm sure she meant The Coup
PbNPVideo 2 years ago
Communism is only ruined by greedy humans, those who truly understand it could cause it to thrive.
raginrenegades 2 years ago
raginrenegades - The first half of your sentence is correct - the thoery of communism/marxism as good - it would be a utopian society, but the problem with it is that there are NO righteous men that are willing to set aside their greed and administer communism correctly. Each time that a government has supposedly instated "communism" it has been corrupted by the get go by corrupt leaders. The ONLY way communism can work is if it is administered by JESUS CHRIST himself upon his 2nd coming.
themangler13 2 years ago
And that's not happening since the Bible is a fairy tale, so get with it or wait for death.
HalfGreyHalfMan 2 years ago
Haaaaaaahaaaaaaaaa aren't you funny....
gnrev 2 years ago
down with democracy!
back2thefutre 2 years ago
ists of today are just branches of the Democratic Party. They stand for what ever the Democratic Party stands for. The activists of the 60s and 70s and even the punk moment of the 70s and 80s were the last of the true grass roots rebels. Now days even Rage Against the Machine is part of the Machine.
Bukakke1 2 years ago 4
communism looks great on paper, but then the greed of humans ruins the idea
connodude5 2 years ago 51
@connodude5
Doesnt that show, how cruel people are?
I mean, because of a handful of persons, the whole idea is ruined
JoritHillendahl 1 year ago
@JoritHillendahl but even if the leaders are not totally greedy i still think that the rocket scientist should be paid more than the man who takes out his trash. call me a capitalist freak but i think its only fair
connodude5 1 year ago
@connodude5 I think we don't need rocket scientists, but apart from that, they do earn more actually!
But not as extremely more as they would earn in capitalism.
JoritHillendahl 1 year ago
@JoritHillendahl Thats the thing. Without capitolism there is less ambition because why gp tp school for 6 years to be a doctor when you will only make a little more than the guy who dropped out. Everybody is at least a little greedy and will work harder if they think it will pay off for them.
skiddlecrumms 1 year ago
@skiddlecrumms Communism isnt about ambition, it's about control; capitalism is seen as keeping economic and political control in the hands of a minority that actively exploits the majority for survival. Communism merely seeks to over-turn this via transferring the means of production from the hands of the few to the hands of the many thus democratizing it and giving people incentive to operate it. The incentive being that failure to participate results in a loss of democratic power.
NorthwestResistance 1 year ago
@NorthwestResistance Did you just say that communism helps democracy? Wow, you have fun with that.
skiddlecrumms 1 year ago
@connodude5
probably the reason everyone needs to learn to love
enigma9789 1 year ago
@connodude5 It's the same with capitalism imo. either system COULD work, if humans did suck so bad at life lol
whitelitning75 1 year ago
@connodude5 Free market democracy looks great on paper, but then the greed of humans ruins the idea...
trexx97 1 year ago 5
@trexx97 most def my friend
xai64 1 year ago
@connodude5 FINALLY! someone understands what Ive been saying from the start!
REXMCDANGER 1 year ago
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@connodude5 FINALLY! someone understands what Ive been saying from the start!
REXMCDANGER 1 year ago
@connodude5 dude your so wright, same goes for socialism. humans are so greedy theese days. the only thing that seems to matter anymore is how much better one can be than the other. people need to stop with this capitalism crap, its runing our earth, people need to treat eachother the same treat people equal, as lenin always said “Freedom in capitalist society always remains about the same as it was in ancient Greek republics: Freedom for slave owners.” WERE NOT EQUAL, ITS NOT FAIR!
mmaman21209 1 year ago
@connodude5 human minds are working properly on the circumstances they live...In a communism society greed wouldn't exist....Sorry for my English...
Lp4life4 1 year ago
@Lp4life4 USSR...
SHadow9859 10 months ago
Dont worship Zeitgeist. The video only promotes you to think for yourself, instead of letting your country, other people and your religion think for you.
Fuck you I wont do what you tell me
RageTruth 2 years ago
wow ppl have lost their minds. anyone notice that socialism isnt working and never has? Rome tried it and it caused Rome to fall. looks like were next. thanks alot obama.
hagus100 2 years ago
what the hell are you talking about? Rome fell because of socialism!!!? hahhaha
emrinder 2 years ago
that could also of been one of the reasons, but the main was like any other empire that expanded its reach to far, and couldnt hold itself together since it was so big, just like the american empire has so many military bases in other countries, because of our foriegn policies, and now were going bacnkrupt.
pay attention in history class people, empires never last too long.
xMasterShake9x 2 years ago
fuck empires who needs an empire anyway
kurdtisgod1 2 years ago
Ur mom.
gnrev 2 years ago
do you have down syndrome?
spickkiller69 2 years ago 2
Rome was totally socialist, I hear you brother. However, Rome's socialism aside, new age socialism makes much more sense than most governments. Communism is bad though, very bad mkay.
Qman729 2 years ago
The Patricians in Rome stopped caring for their empire and allowed it to decline
brockburd80 2 years ago
agreed. obama is the machine now and supporting him isnt excatly what ratm was meant to do wtf
anamaraku 2 years ago
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fucking sell outs
Desayunobabe 2 years ago
i was so pissed i missed this
lowerclassrock 2 years ago
If you go to google videos and watch 'zeitgeist' you'll ee 911 WAS an inside job.
MintSauce42 2 years ago
nah there are better videos than zeitgeist like loose change, plus it doesn't help that the zeitgeist movies claims on the religions have been disproved. i heard from a few different places that zeitgeist is actually a controlled opposition move put out by the powers that be
nebyou 2 years ago
what's been disproved? specifically?
Hirfel 2 years ago
ah shoot i don't remember i don't really care cus i'm not really too big on organized religion but if you want to see the opposing views type in "zeitgist exposed" or "zeitgeist refuted".
nebyou 2 years ago
Really funny you should say that as my friend swears by zeitgeist... kind of an ironic twist eh?
tempkira 2 years ago
Ha i don't blame 'em, Zeitgeist was the first serious "conspiracy" documentary I saw. I believed the religious stuff in the movie (i didn't care whether it was true or not, I just thought it was interesting). I actually found the Zeitgeist disproving videos when I was searching for clips of the movie to show to my friend. I think it's really smart by "The Powers That Be" to mix in false information with the truth because I think that's what works best to deceive people.
nebyou 2 years ago
obama is gana ruin hte ecomomy. fucking fools.
BustaMonkey1234 2 years ago
learn to spell before you call other people fools. idiot.
WorthWatchingVv 2 years ago
dude whoever posted this video (ARTISANNEWSSERVICE), u should check all these fuckin comments, they are all some pointless shit that people read and think its true! seriously you should mark at least 80% of these comments as spammed, cause it completely fucks up the video, and half these people talk about has NOTHING to do with the video
appleman1324 2 years ago
unbannable has got the right idea jesus wake up what has osama bin laden got from iraq nothing and bushs father had weapons dealing in iraq and america !! bush made billions from the iraq war !!!
Uberpsycho994 2 years ago
WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Daniazco 2 years ago
obama clinton and bush can all go to hell. rage really supporting greedy apathetic politicians?
SkyPry 2 years ago
yeeah busdriver t-shirt
cassiusitsover 2 years ago
America is not a capitalist state. IT's a fascist state. It has been that way for nearly 100 years. The wealthy elites control the politicians. They just throw you a welfare check every now and again the keep you a sheep
09geauxtigers 2 years ago
Audit the Federal Reserve
campaignforliberty[dot]com
boilthefrogs 2 years ago
oh shut up you idiot. if you think america is fascist then you need to go back to school and learn the definition again.
liber8me 2 years ago
Facism is a form of capitalism.
and its not a Fascist state. look up the definition.
It is a imperialist state. the highest form of Capitalism.
the way the united states is today is the exact way capitalism is supposed to work.
Unbannable 2 years ago
i live in ireland.... no wars for us.... sure we've sfa to be fighting about.... sweeeeeeeet.... i just like the chooooones....
confusedinthegroove 2 years ago
fuck this shit obama pulled more troops out of Iraq but guess what he sent more to Afghanistan so fuck it no war has ended a new ones about to begin
imsowhiteandnerdy 2 years ago 2
ok idc wht u guys say bout this comment but im going to tell u ppl who wnt the war out of Iraq but this is wht i live by "FREEDOM IS NOT FREE" IN OTHER WORDS IF U TAKE THE WAR OUT OF IRAQ WE WILL HAVE ANOTHER 9/11 KEEP THE WAR IN IRAQ "FREEDOM IS NOT FREE"
guest1323 2 years ago 2
what a retard.
iraq had nothing to do with 9/11
9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB.
fool.
the elites of the world have benefited from 9/11 way more then osama bin laden.
Unbannable 2 years ago 5
Stop calling 9/11 an inside job. You don't know. You're like a fucking preacher trying to shove their bullshit religion down people's throats.
Personally, from what I've seen on both sides, I do not believe it was an inside job. In fact, the Bush administration was far to incompetent for that.
The difference is, you treat the bullshit your fed from "truthers" like it was Jesus himself saying it. None of you question your side or even doubt it.
Your second and bottom sentences I agree with.
Propagandhi900 2 years ago
by an inside job i mean they allowed 9/11 to happen.
there is now doubt things like cheney taking control of norad (or was it rumsfeld) among other things are very suspicious. and the evidence is much greater against the official policy and if the official policy is discredited that means they are covering up something.
which means it was a false flag operation.
personally i think the evidence that has been found to be true is very damning of the offical story.
Unbannable 2 years ago
fuck you man, 9/11 was a muslim attack against america, not an inside job. Shut the fuck up you loose lipped pussy fuck.
thinking77 2 years ago
i did not say muslims didnt attack the USA i said it was an inside job.
the Government Knew about it before hand, they either allowed it to happen thru inaction or they encouraged it.
you have too look at who benefitted the most from 9/11
was it Osama Bin Laden? tell me was it?
no.
it was the government. it was the weapons manufacturers. it was the military. you are too eager to swallow the bullshit propaghanda fed to you by the Government and their faithful servants: CNN, Fox,MSNBC ,Etc.
Unbannable 2 years ago
no osama bin laden claimed to have been the master mind behind the planning of the attack, that doesnt mean that he wasnt being used by the alquada or the taliban or the IRG. You ate that bullshit. He was a media scapgoat like sadam. And maybe some Gmen coordinated their crooked little asses in on the plot. But the gov. as a whole did not allow it or encourage it. There is more to 9/11 than a blatan attack. Ill message you some insight. But its not as crackpot as you make it seem.
thinking77 2 years ago
actually look up the videos of osama accepting the blame.
they arent him.
the video they found of him accepting blame just happening to be sitting in a garbage bin or something in the middle of afghanistan.
there is also videos where he says he didnt do it that have been varified to be him while the ones he accepts responsibility look nothing like him and there has been experts that say it is not him and the person talking doesnt even speak arabic properly.
plus it doesnt look like him!
Unbannable 2 years ago
Give me solid evidence.
Stupid ass conspiracy theories.
DamnedFoo 2 years ago
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guest1323 2 years ago
oh my god Flobots and Rage Against the Machine?? EPIC When is this (or has this been) going on?
woodcutter048 2 years ago 2
war is a part of life. its a instinc for humans. its was one of the things we first knew how to do since the begginning. since all of history there was always war its a habit we cant control its so powererful the greeks even worshiped war as a god. war will be stop when humans go away.
Wezzyisabeast 2 years ago
what a ignorant and mis-informed statement.
did you know indians worship cows.
mabye cows are part of our soul, they are built into our DNA and to be a vegetarian, or to raise sheep instead, is going against the very things that make us human.
or perhaps worshipping cows, like worshipping Obama, or Capitalism, are stupid, and in time, the flaws will show themselves.
Unbannable 2 years ago
what the hell do cows have to do wat i said. and how is it misinformed its true we have been fighting since the first human and we dnt worshipe obama and our capitlism is a preety danme good stutcure unlike the rest of them
Wezzyisabeast 2 years ago
Wezzyisbeast has a point, but worded it slightly wrong. It's not war that is in our DNA, it's the instinct to cling to survival. And along with that comes the core 7 deadly sins, and maybe Capitalism just emphasizes those flaws in humanity's fundamental thought patterns, made for survival. So maybe being what we all consider a good person is contrary to your human nature. Thus making us act irraltional at times, which is what would have led you to post you comment so brashly. Think?
GEternal 2 years ago
There's alot of thing people thought would never happen. the day we get off earth is the day we stop warring. It will happen one day, not any time soon, but Atheism is the fastest growing group in the world, and that's a good start.
Malecaust666 2 years ago
what the freak dude your stupid!! we prob would want japans planet and kill them to get it wow
funnehguy4 2 years ago
what? you are completely uneducated on the subject. atheism isnt even close to being the fastest growing group in the world. actually islam is by far. but if you really want to laugh read the bible. it said it would be like this. just fyi agnostic or docetic christianaty is 2nd. atheism is way down on the list.
likeathief007 2 years ago
I meant to say fastest growing group in america. And by atheism i mean non-belief. I consider agnostics atheists, because the definition of an atheist is someone without a belief and agnostics have no beliefs
And i've read the bible. The bible is so general in it's "predictions" that all of the shit it says will happen has BEEN happening since recorded history, there has been countless "Anti-Christ's", floods, wars, plagues, you name it.
Malecaust666 2 years ago
in america is plausible. but you also have to factor that 87% of americans already consider themselves christian or believers somehow. but the last gallup i saw awarded wicca the fastest growing religious group. not including people pulling from organized religion due to disassociation with the church. lets face it... the church has done that to themselves. as far as the validity of the bible debate goes. there is a can of worms we could open and argue for years. but i respect your opinion
likeathief007 2 years ago
atheism in percentage of size growth is the fastest growing.
the number of people being converted amongst the major religions is so small that it is statistically irrelevant. the only data that has any real effect on the size of a religion is the number of children they are having.
oh, and its true what he says about the bible "predictions" they talk in riddles and make them so general they could be any event that has occurred since they were made
liber8me 2 years ago
if you show me where you get your data i would be happy to consider that. but islam conversion is, by no means, irrelevant. especially in europe. africa is the same only with pentecostal christianity. yes islams overall numbers are growing due to child birth in record numbers but so are conversions. i guess we could probably find data to debunk each other all day long. everyone has an agenda aye? as far as validity of the bible... see above comment haha.
likeathief007 2 years ago
SICK!!!!!!!
172ndsoldier 2 years ago
Democracy on a nationwide scale will never succeed due to too few people with too much power and greed is something no human can ever get rid of.
smoothgroovebassman 2 years ago 4
socialism will inevitably be the economic system of choice,
this does not mean we must have a brutal dictatorship however, this is not what socialism or marxism is about at all.
as long as there is Capitalism, there will be workers being exploited, and as long as there is workers being exploited, Socialism will be a viable alternative.
once this cold war Generation is gone, and people born after 1991 and all the anti communist propaganda are voting, i expect marxism to come back in a big way
Unbannable 2 years ago 2
Ya I wish it was the economic system, but it's human nature to be greedy, selfish, and to want to much of everything. I wish socialism would work, it would work better than communism, but with human nature it WOULD turn to a dictatorship, it would be good at first but than slowly the leaders would tur corrupt and we would all be fucked.
RATM4LIF3 2 years ago
it is absolutely untrue that human nature is too be greedy, for thousands of years humans have lived in communal settings, it is just in our Capitalist countries where we are literally programmed to be as greedy as possible right from birth. we can only be successful if we are like the CEO on TV who screwed everybody on his way to the top.
before Europeans came the the Americas, Most of the Natives lived in Communal societies, but i am not proposing a society that is based on the honor system.
Unbannable 2 years ago
before europeans came to the americas natives were often at war with opposing tribes. capitalism has little to do with the greed of people in certain circumstances. was stalin not greedy?
jonathanchoffman76 2 years ago
yes stalin wasnt greedy, nor was he a true communist, per classical marxist doctrine.
you dont hold enough of a knowledge pertaining to Marxism and Communism to say such a society would not work due to people being greedy.
the way the soviet union was set up was not a true marxist state. not even close.
it was not classes, or stateless, or egalitarian.
it was State Capitalism, not "Communism" or Marxism
Unbannable 2 years ago 2
I see you chose not to mention the point i made on war. karl marx's ideas were developed and expanded upon much like sidartha's religious teachings. There hasn't been, to my knowledge, a pure marxist state. Im not trying to attack you opinions but rather supply dissent. no need for ad hominem.
jonathanchoffman76 2 years ago
pardon me i ment Siddhartha
jonathanchoffman76 2 years ago
show me a country that practices true marxism or communism
Pentazoid111 2 years ago 3
Also my Great-Grandfather (who is Italian) was in Italy during Mussolinis horrible reign of terror, he was a Socialist so I may sound a little biased but I am not trying to be.
RATM4LIF3 2 years ago
Mussolini was a fascist, not a socialist.
Hitler was a "national socialist," but a socialist only in name.
C0rvus 2 years ago
No,no,no, I am saying my grandfather was a Socialist, not that horrible Mussolini. Of course my grandfather couldn't say anything about it until Mussolini was dead and the war was over. Sorry for the Misunderstanding.
RATM4LIF3 2 years ago
OH, okay, sorry about that. I'm glad your grandfather made it out alive from that situation.
C0rvus 2 years ago
Unfortunately for us there are jerks o one is willing to work for someone soo many people only want to get by the bare minimum. professor had a class that thought socialism was a good thing (and it is if everyone was perfect) e made the class a socialist environment by meaning everyone got the average grade so everyone got a c the kids who were getting D's decided to stop working and it fell even more this is why socialism wont work socialist democracy is the most viable option.
rockinandrollin444 2 years ago
Socialism is a very broad definition.
to say that because some teacher defined everyone getting the same mark as Socialism and then his class broke down, that this is an indication that socialism will not work is irrational.
also, Socialist Democracy or Democratic Socialism are Oxymoronic and just plain Moronic.
we would need some form of Libertarian Socialism AKA Council Communism...a good book on the subject is "The Government in the Future" by Noam Chomsky
Unbannable 2 years ago