North & South~ Dinner at the Mains

[ucheucheuche]

Star Trek: Next Gen, Dirty Dancing and Look Who's Talking in one scene..? WOW! :)

[crybabygirl08]

I love Kristi Allie in this scene!! :) 

[clouseau186]

@crybabygirl08 So do I.  Kirstie Allie is Superb in this scene.

[crowleysridgegirl]

One of my favorite scenes with Kristie Alley.The best part:@ 3:30, when Virgilia tells James :"YOU SEE HIM AS A NIGGER,BUT I SEE HIM AS A MAN WHO DESERVES TO BE FREE. one day you'll all understand what's about to happen here."

[KentuckRoad]

Oh man, I love the old South! Gone is the good ole days!

[plantationmuscleboy]

@KentuckRoad You said it KY. I totally agree.... the lavish parties, the elegance, the privileged way of life... Imagine going back in time and being a part of the Cottonacracy.... Rebelicious!

[KentuckRoad]

@plantationmuscleboy I have lots of ancestors that fought for the glorious Confederacy, and think about those times almost everyday. I would love to go back in time to that era. I love that word "Rebelicious! will have to add that to my vocabulary. If I could have been born about 1835. As a teenager find me a Southern Belle to Court, with the fire of Ashton in her heart, attend the parties, have a fine carriage, be skilled in swordsmanship,and chivalry. The old South is never far away.

[MrSeanodwyer140]

@KentuckRoad the 150th anniversary is in April 2011 off the start off thhe Civil War. in north Amerika. how will it be Celebrated. live for the now.

[KentuckRoad]

@MrSeanodwyer140 We who live in the South will celebrate with Reenactments, Living Historys, flying our beloved Confederate Flags, talking among ourselves of the glorious days when our ancestors broke away from the Evil Union and fought for what we believed. Some of us will work for that day when once again the Southern States will see the rise of the second Confederacy Movement, there are groups working behind the scenes right now planning that very thing

[MrSeanodwyer140]

@KentuckRoad  dreammer.

[Juwar1974]

@KentuckRoad the good old days of slavery???

[KentuckRoad]

@Juwar1974 Well, with my ancestors, the slaves helped them to be prosperious. My ancestors treated there slaves well from what I have been told. The "Uncle Tom's Cabin" version of slavery only happened rarely. Slaves were expensive property, if they were in ill health or couldn't work it cost a lot of money, so you kept your property well and able to work. Only a few were treated poorly, and that was when they mostly deserved it. Being a slave was hard work, I don't deny that at all.

[Juwar1974]

@KentuckRoad Have u lost your f"""""ing mind! The mental health of slavery was deplorable, and it was that slave mentality that has been passed on from generation to generation. this was what was most egregious about American slavery. It just wasn't isolated to before the civil war.  It's legacy could be felt and seen in african americans today--particular their political views, some views of education, the role of government, etc...

[vancouvermild]

@Juwar1974

Don't forget its profound impact on their religious culture. This was magnified further in the south (and its black community) after the devastation of the civil war - and the hope/comfort their religion offered them during and long after these desperate times. The christian religion became a thoroughly entrenced part of the South's culture (particularly its black community, which was left even more devastated/poor). Just remember that most televangelists possess southern accents!

[KentuckRoad]

Oh man, I love the old South! Gone is the good ole days!

[SnoopyLove21]

Does Madeline have a baby in this movie?

[bigd53224]

This must have been long before Star Trek The Next Generation because John Frakes is in this!!!!! What year did this show start and how long it last?

[beka2marie]

@bigd53224 - they started in 1985 but I don't quite know when they stopped filming.

[SpockLover27]

@bigd53224 No this is right before. :)

[scarline02]

I like Charles and Billy more than I like Orry and George. And I love this scene ;)

[SpockLover27]

@scarline02 Orry and George are WAY better. Gerrr

[CarlaLR74]

I didn't know you could say the "n" word on tv in the 80s?

[Blabloo72]

.......and the atmosphere at dinner was spoiled somewhat.

[LetFreedomRing]

@Blabloo72 .....although it was really breakfast.

[douglas787]

One of my favorite scenes from the series. It really sets the tone for the differences between the north and south. Powerful

[usrt46]

Check out charles face at 2:49!

Classic scene from a classic mini series!

you could feel the tension building throughout the entire book 1 of the series.

[Sorayn]

Is that Jonathan Frakes at 1:17??????

[tresckow]

yes

[magenta1000]

@Sorayn

Indeed! This was just before TNG I think.

[brocktown]

This is one of the first things I ever saw Kirstie Alley in when I was a kid. This was before Cheers which was such a stupid role. She is such a great dramatic actress. I wish she had stayed on the dramatic path. I'd love to see more work by her of this quality.

[nightswimmer99]

Go Billy!

[patricial27]

une très bonne série .Adieu Ory

[KyPeanut]

RIP PATRICK SWAYZE :( U WILL B MISSED

[dolemitedavis]

OMG this is THE BOMB from start to finish. Virgilia (defiant troublemaker), Huntoon(pompous windbag/weak willed husband) and Ashton(that bitch), and everyone else caught in between.

[hitokiriyahiko2008]

bullshit alien, discarding the propaganda hat has been brought forth in the coming of the 20th and 21st centuries, a lot and quite a lot including southerners who owned slaves didnt like slavery but thought it was gods will in gods time, but i do not belivee whites were any sort of problem there were bad apples there is one in every family, every race, every country, lee set alot of his slaves before the war and his slaves were prtial to lee, as was jacksons, and many others,

[premtoshan]

Virgilia said, "You see him as a sinner, and I see him as a man who deserves to be free." Her speech full of grief and indignation is so powerful and touching.

Kirsty Alley rocks.

[Mariposa1Kamikaze]

Yes, she does! her passion is contagious... You go girl, kick those slavedrivers´ butts!!

[mroy88]

she said nigger, not sinner

[bjnboy]

She said, "You see him as a nigger, and I see him as a man who deserves to be free!"

[prettynyrican]

she said "you see him as a nigger".

[FamilyGuy770]

It looks to me that they're having breakfast instead of dinner!

[CarlaLR74]

This is the most awkward dinner....ever.

[atlien991]

Notice how all the whites except the one woman see it as a bad thing that she might help the Black man escape.

Almost all whites wanted went along with slavery. Today, whites enjoy rewriting the past to blame the institution of slavery on southern whites. All whites were the problem. North and South, as this film accurately demonstrates (even though it is a shit film).

This problem between and amongst all whites is contemporarily understood as the Republican and Democratic parties.

[MariposaKamikaze]

Wow I just love that scene... that Huntoon is such a silly fool! Calling Virgilia a whore, for her relationship with a black man, and the only real whore of the film was his own fiancée...

Missy Ashton cheated on him about a thousand times with whoever she got between her fingers, lol. but he deserved it well, that moron :-)

[MariposaKamikaze]

Hehehehe... I find her so cool... at 3:00 she should still have answered "that´s a matter between him and me only, Mr. Huntoon" LOL

[garylebon]

Union Snipers wore green uniforms and used breech-loading sharps Rifles

[Bliss44]

Billy became a Union Sniper later on (Book 2, Episode 1) and then wore that green uniform.

[garylebon]

Slavery is wrong, in the union army black men couldn't be officers

[garylebon]

Maybe James Huntoon is no match for Billy Hazard one-on-one

[MariposaKamikaze]

She was so, but so right... wish there were more ladies with the courage she had. Even when she got insane, it´s sad that she had so much to suffer and that she had such a tragic end

[victorianopera]

Ashton cracks me up! Sometimes I want to slap her face. Other times I want to hug her! Less of the latter.

[Tenor5274]

I can see the conflict within Orry as he tells the Hazzards that they must leave Mont Royal. Although I do admit I wish Orry would have not sent them home so soon. But I do understand why he was compelled to do so.

[usrt46]

The best mini series of all time. Watch charles' face at about 2:45. Priceless! The tension that builds between the 2 sides becomes so real to the viewer that you can feel it as if you were indeed living in those tragic times. The final scence from book one is heartbreaking as best friends know thier is nothing left but war.

[BADmarta]

Does anybody have a clip with this scene in Mexico (battle in Monterrey) where Orry were wunded?

[nicole4310]

Yes I have the clip but you have to wait until I get to that part.

[BADmarta]

Ok, thanks a lot! I am waiting :D

[nicole4310]

:-)

[cbiswhite]

I LOVE that Isabel decides to take another biscuit before leaving the table (5:20-5:23- always makes me laugh)! She didn't get enough breakfast, and it is a long trip from Mont Royal to Charleston... a girl's gotta eat something!

[Micky83]

the best mini series ever.great actors,i love it.

[LordShiningStarr]

I thought that the entire mini series was wonderful. When I got to high school, I checked out the books from the libarary. Darn near took me about a year to get threw them all as they are all huge. It's quite easy to see how this series became so long a tale. And if you really liked the Three Miniseries, you should check out John Jake's Trillogy. There's "North and South" "Love and War" and "Heaven and Hell."

[nicole4310]

Oh it took me damn near 5 years to read each one. I really enjoyed them like the 2 miniseries...excluding the 3rd movie:).

[honeegrrl]

It wasn't hard for Patrick Swayze to play this part, he really is from the south.

[nicole4310]

I didn't know that...cool.

[honeegrrl]

Yeah I think he is from Texas.

[hkelly3000]

this was the best t.v miniseries ever...the talent where the bests of the time....Ashton Main was the best as we only knew this actress through Dynasty.....

[nicole4310]

Even though I couldn't stand Ashton...Terri was wonderful in this:)!

[nicholas2726]

please baja la miniserie ..quisiera verla please

[nicole4310]

I will post more...look out for them!!:)

[eseyla]

Kirstie gives a powerful performance as virgilia hazzard

[nicole4310]

She did. I loved her in this:).

[princessglamourchick]

kirstie looks so beautiful

[nicole4310]

She she does!