EFPs Explosively Formed Penetrators (CNN)

[GeorgiaBoy1961]

There is a bit of confusion in some posts here between EFP weapons and shaped charge weapons. They aren't precisely the same thing, although they have commonalities. Shaped charge weapons have been in widespread use since WWII, in weapons like the bazooka, Panzerfaust and Panzershrek, and later, the Svoeit RPG family of weapons. EFPs, on the other hand, use a slug of metal which is forged by the directed flow of the explosion - into a projectile, hence the word "penetrator."

[menzerna1234]

Hahaha....silly Americans. Learn from your enemies jow to KILL CHEAPLY and EFFICIENTLY. Your hi tech, hi cost toys ae so easily fucked by low tech, super cheap and crude HOME MADE weapons. hahahaaaa....typical stupid Americans. So, to protect from EFPs, silly Americans will come up with a new type of super expensive armour that will make US and Americans even poorer. hahaaaaaa.....Americans, you fuckers never learn, do ya???

[CustomGenerics]

'Here's an idea you probably haven't thought of . . .'

[youngsoldier93]

This type of EFP was used in WW2!

[coolbreeze922]

1:35 "Here is how they are made." LOL. Not a technical description, but still, thanks CNN.

[iloveafg123]

everyone jsut shut up stop thinking ur smart lol ur not.

[EnigmaHood]

@iloveafg123 Well you certainly are not smart, I can say that much. :)

[explosivefreak666]

Before we start blaming the net, know that the German RAF used a platter charge to kill a top-dog in the finance world. That was the early 80-ties.. No net, but they who wants info, get it ! where's a will, there's a way... Just like 'Nam, THEY WILL NOT STOP ! It IS their country, NOT ours. Put yar'self in THEIR shoes, would YOU give up ?

[GeorgiaBoy1961]

@explosivefreak666: Also known as an "off-route" mine. If I remember correctly, the late Ian Hoag, British arms expert and historian, said the charge was in a backpack, with a steel plate facing the "target," the armored limo of a German bank executive. This isn't new knowledge, but there have been some refinements in it, such as airburst and top-attack weapons that use EFPs.

[explosivefreak666]

@GeorgiaBoy1961 Correctemundo,..Refreshing, to hear of someone, who knows what he's talking about.!

[GeorgiaBoy1961]

@explosivefreak666: I just read my history, and the late Ian Hoag's great book, "Tank Killing," which delves into alot of the tech behind shaped charges, EFPs, and much else besides. EFPs, shaped charges, et al. are based mostly upon the Monroe Effect, which has been described scientifically since the late 1800s. I'm just a civilian military history nerd, so this is the closest I'll probably ever get to any of this stuff.

[explosivefreak666]

@GeorgiaBoy1961 As am I, a civil history nerd, that is. The chemistry of powders & explosives, is also an intresting topic to me. Thanx for pointing out Hoag's book, didn't know that. Being a member of Scibd.com, I'm sure to find it, as there is, as you surly know, a library full of usefull info, on the matter at hand...

[GeorgiaBoy1961]

@explosivefreak666: Thanks for the info, but I don't particularly want a visit from the BATFE - I'll stick with history.

[1ukjunglednbraver]

these have been around for 50 years.... there not hard to make or set up the hardest part for most people is getting the explosives but this is iraq they dont have much trouble getting the goods....i dont think iran helped them at all they helped themselfs its quite simple

[takakonobe]

@1ukjunglednbraver Dude look if you have a Army admiting to the world that a weapon is kicking its ass this is just motivation to the enemy. Just like putting a date on when we are going to leave Afghanistan you just don't do this with these guys. example - IEDS insurgents dont go around having AARs they just kill going around and telling them theyre fucking shit up isnt exactly the smartest tactic .

[samolet900]

The US uses these things, too. For example look up SADARM, Intelligent Munitions System, and CBU-97 Sensor-Fuzed Weapon.

[takakonobe]

Ok I don't get this why the hell is the Army telling them it can defeat any of their armor and why are they telling them how to make the darn things. I think things like this should be kept on the DL.

[MokomaSusi]

@takakonobe

EFP weapons aren't new.

[1ukjunglednbraver]

@takakonobe it isnt top secret shit its 50year old tech....iraq might be a shit hole but it has the internet we all know the internet has everything info wise

[EnigmaHood]

@takakonobe Maybe because knowledge on making these things has been public for a long time now? If you know how to make an explosive in the first place, then making an EFP is a rather trivial matter.

[K1dKrusade]

High explosives(PETN, ANFO, ect) + copper  cone= Explosively formed penetrator.

[GeorgiaBoy1961]

@K1dKrusade: Close, what you've described produces a molten jet, like an RPG or other shaped charge, which cuts through the target. For it to be an EFP, the slug (starter metal) has to "self-forge" into a projectile as a result of the detonation. Anyway, for it is worth, that's the difference as I understand it....

[stjimy]

love EFP`s you can destroy a evehicle of half million dollars whit a weapon that costs just a few hundreds of dollars!!!

[ParkWayDrive011111]

@stjimy wrong, that weapon probably costs only a about 30dollars on budget which for Brits equals about 17pounds. and this technology is very old, perhaps as old as cannon, its a piece of piss making one but its no pushover

[stjimy]

@ParkWayDrive011111 WTF!!! just 30 bucks spend to destroy avehicle of half million dollars!! amazing that is very bad news for the gringos tax payers!!

[ParkWayDrive011111]

@stjimy i know lol. the weapon itself could be made by a steel barrel (even plastic if its hard enough) but you would need to have a work station to make the copper cone but it wouldn't HAVE to be a good work station and making explosive is easy enough to do. about 50-100 if on budget, 30-40 if you're practically salvaging parts. C4 is basically is explosive stuff like black powder and sodium nitrate mixed with solvents such as alcohol and then made into a paste by a glue substance.

[boomboom314159]

@ParkWayDrive011111 hahaha, that last line cracked me up! you know nada about explosives.

[1ukjunglednbraver]

@ParkWayDrive011111 you really dont have a clue what c4 is do you.....its mostly rdx this is the explosive part the rest is made up of plasticizers to make it less sensative and to make it moldable plus they put a little bit of a chemical in so that sniffer dogs can smell it easer...were did you get that info on how c4 was made

[cody196]

@stjimy wtf u love efps?!?!?!?! heartless BASTARD u have no idea what those due to our men and women in uniform FUCK YOU.