@yec1JF Why do people only scrutinize what I said about the sculpture itself and not even consider the other information I present?
As I said in the video its 'possible' that its a stegosaurus but even if it is it does not mean they actually saw one as man has been digging up dinosaur bones since ancient times but inaccurately putting them together so putting the spikes on the head sounds like a common error for people that only see horns on the head of an animal.
i guess the head is bigger because their computer was down that day and couldnt use auto-cad. is this erkle narrating this vid? GOD said it. that settles it. doesnt matter if you or i believe it.
We evolution/god debaters need to start saving important sites in a document on their computer. Notice I have spaces in between the URL. For Immediate transitional forms use: talkorigins. org/faqs/faq-transitional.html and please 'like' my proof for evolution facebook site: facebook. com/creationistssuck ; The information section of it is unbeatable and I am basically handing you an automatic gun of science. It will shut down an argument in one post and educate the ignorant.
Not to be biased, but you must try your best to accumulate your mind and persuade the listener and yourself as much as you can to convince that the carving does not look anything like a stegosaurus. It's a creature that is behind a bush...really? It is as if this video is a satire. Well, you tried...
Cyclops and Griffin are from mythology, they were not based on fossils, but rather the characteristics that such parts represented. For example, the lion represented strength and the wings speed. This guy just makes stupid stuff up with no historical concern.
@RomansGalatians its been a year since I made this video so I do not have my sources handy but actually I am not the one that is saying that the Cyclops and Griffin are from fossils, rather that is from experts that make a convincing case.
@flammamancer the animal on the carving is a chameleon.. Dude just look at what the carving animal on top of.. it's standing on a branch.. grasping onto a branch i should say like most chameleons do ..
This guy is an idiot. It clearly show a Stegosaurus. And buy the why, most of you people with AN OPINION have been taught your OPINION by Mainstream Science. And Science is being proved WRONG a lot. Carbon dating is based on the Carbon 14 in the Fossil v.s. the Carbon 14 in the air. The less Carbon 14 in the Fossils, the older it is suppose to be. Rightt. The Animal takes in the Carbon 14 through plants & other animals (If a Carnivore). Carbon dating is flawed.
@ringlerum You are an idiot. Carbon dating???? If you had any idea about what you are talking about you would know that carbon dating is not used for dating dinosaur fossilises. Carbon dating is used for much younger things (almost exclusively within the epoch of modern humans). To think research on dinosaurs is flawed due to radio carbon dating simply shows what an ignoramus you are.
@foiran Foiran, you are a complete idiot. You need to research things before you open your big worthless mouth while writing reply's. Learn something besides sitting behind you keyboard jacking off to porn while you moms at the store. You Fucking retard.
Carbon-14 has been used to date unmineralized Dinosaur Bones 3 and other organic matter
@ringlerum Dipshit. I don’t need to google it, I learned how to do carbon dating in university. So unless you also studied archaeology and learned carbon dating fuck off
Poor argumentation. Trying to make an argument on the bases on what people thought they were actually seeing long ago
Cyclops somehow is supposed be derived from an elephant skill. How can you make that leap? Do you not think that people would have known what an elephant was and known what its remains looked like. lol
@Surfxeo They dug up a grave in Greece that was suppose to be a cyclopes but found elephant bones instead.
Same thing with the griffin.
My point is that the ancients dug up the bones of various animals both living and extinct and without the insights of modern science and anthropology instead incorporated them into their mythology.
@flammamancer Your point is moot. You are still relying on supposition to prove a point. You are placing your myth ideas into the distant past. Just don't call what you are doing as "scientific"
Even your griffin claim of it being a triceratops kind is ridiculous.
@Surfxeo sorry but you are wasting you time. these creationist morons, well they are just that morons, there’s no way they will be able to understand that they don’t know fuck all about what they talk about. it wont stop them from trying to commandeer science for thyself while making idiotic claims for their belief claiming they don’t need to rely on science.
Besides the tail being to large for a Rhino the horn is in the wrong place. Rhinos had very big populations 900 yrs ago. So they would have known what they looked like. A "bush". Why is that depiction the only animal that has any thing else in it's circle??? Again the latest research says Dino's went through morphological changes at different stages of their development. Causing many juvenile to be misidentified as different species!
@Howie47 Other animals at the site due have other elements inside their "circles" by which I assume you mean frame. See madeuthink's video in rebutal, "Creationism's best evience yet" or simply look through the published pictures of the site..
@Howie47 Other animals at the site do have other elements inside their "circles" by which I assume you mean frame. See madeuthink's video in rebutal, "Creationism's best evience yet" or simply look through the published pictures of the site..
@Howie47 Waho! Holly crap!!!!! dinosaurs went through morphological changes as they grew up!!!!!!! that’s astonishing!!!! hang on.... ? Don’t all forms of life go through morphological changes as they grow up?????
@foiran God, why do I have to school idiots. The morphological changes some life forms go through is drastic enough, to make them appear to be totally different species. At different stages. Humans are always recognizable as humans. Some creatures have totally different anatomy, at different stages. Like, tadpole, half tadpole, then frog. OK, now go kiss your sorry ass good night, and go back to sleep.
@Howie47 That’s neither here nor there, the fact is humans and dinosaurs NEVER coexisted, only a creationist moron would look at a picture, carving or whatever, made by people in a different time and different culture and assume that the creators of the thing were making it with the same interpretation that they give it hundreds of years later backed by a completely different culture and world view. I suppose you think minitores and Medusa existed too.
@foiran So you admit your previous post was meaningless drivel. As is your calling creationist "morons". There is mountains of evidence of men and dinosaur existing at the same time. Including preserved tracks, fossils found together, artifacts by the gazillions, historical accounts and the handed down traditions of virtually every culture on earth. If you think it's all imagination gone amok. Maybe it's imagination gone amok, which is says evolution is true!
@Howie47 And how exactly am I admitting to drivel? Morphological changes have nothing to do with the possibility of humans and dinosaurs coexisting. Which they never did. Get your so called mountains of evidence and take it to a university (a real one not ones like Patriot “University”) and get actual qualified experts to asses it for you, instead of unqualified creationist morons. You will be told, by the real experts, that they never coexisted.
@Howie47 I have actually studied university level human evolution so I do have an idea of what Im talking about. I also understand how various radiometric dating techniques work, and I have a general understanding of site formation processes so I understand a bit about how to assess the place and context in which artefacts are found. And I assure you. Humans and dinosaurs NEVER coexisted.
@Howie47 Oh, and by the way, the Flintstones doesn’t count as evidence for human/dinosaur coexistence. Ill let you in on a little secret, the Flintstones is a cartoon, its not real.
@Howie47 That’s highly unlikely, once again, you like the moron putting this up as evidence for dinosaur/human coexistence, are imputing your own, and I would argue a touch erroneous, interpretation of the carving as the interpretation of the people who carved it.
@Howie47 There is no evidence for Human-dinosaur coexistence, only evidence against it. Modern human fossils have been found in Africa dated to somewhere in the order of 130,000 years ago at the earliest. Dinosaurs lived up to about 60 to 70 MILLION years ago. If this screws with your silly superstition and imaginary friend in the sky, too bad.
@foiran Your childish insistence of being right. Doesn't "screw" with any thing. You have no proof or evidence that humans didn't coexist with dinosaurs. The whole materialist paradigm is a house of cards or straw man. There are still dinosaurs alive today. It is only your rhetorical naming conventions, that lets you slither out from under the rock hard reality, you hate so much.
@Howie47 OK, now proving they didn’t coexist is a different thing to proving they did. I wont confuse you with why. The point is that the dates of human remains, indeed our oldest hominid ancestors to walk upright, Australopithecus at about 6000,000 years ago I believe, were around millions of years after dinosaurs became extinct.
@Howie47 And no there are no dinosaurs alive today, if you understood evolutionary theory you would know that crocodiles and alligators, the things people usually like to call living dinosaurs are contemporary species NOT dinosaurs, the fossil record doesn’t have to demonstrate it any more because we have genetics now, which substantiates the fossil record by the way.
@Howie47 Throw away your bible and read some actual science, and no not the nonsense written by the likes of Kent Hovind, and you may come to learn something, particularly how mind bending stupid creationism is.
@foiran Just to screw with your inconsistent logic a little. "crocodiles and alligators, the things people usually like to call living dinosaurs are contemporary species" Birds are also contemporaries with what is commonly called dinos. Yet people, evolutionist people, like to call them living dinosaurs. Or at least their off spring! Oh, by the way, Crocofbullshit is older then "Australopithecus"!
@Howie47 There’s nothing inconsistent with my logic, birds are no more living dinosaurs than crocodiles or alligators. Put it this way. If it is alive today it is a contemporary species, it may have characteristics like prehistoric animals, like lungfish, but are contemporary species. This means that no, birds were not around when dinosaurs were around. But go ahead and sound like an idiot, gives me some amusement at least
@Howie47 Oh yeah, one more thing, just to help you out a bit, Jurassic Park is not evidence for dinosaurs living today, don’t tell any one, this is a secret; it was just a move, it wasn’t real.
@foiran "Oh yeah, one more thing, just to help you out a bit, Jurassic Park is not evidence for dinosaurs living today, don’t tell any one, this is a secret; it was just a (move), it wasn’t real." Yea, the same kind of MOVE that Darwin had, when he made up evolution, and you eat it up like it's a Babe Ruth candy bar. Oh, and they call that a "Freudian slip". Not a mere type-O.
Your argument is self refuting. So maybe your the one lacking logic and reason! By "proto" you must mean (immature). According to lattest research immature Dino's differer dramatically from the adults. Causing a big inflation of no. of dino species. So the Stegosaurus carving could be an immature one. Generally dino infants did have much larger heads then adults. Dino's aren't reptiles! "A Rhino with a big dino tail standing in front of a bush"?, shows your ignorance for sure. You fail.
Hey do all ya,ll koolaid drinkers remember the only missing link ever found was supported by NatGeo only to be a glued together hoax ! Happened around '99 which brings me to the question ... where,s all the innumerable amount of "links" given the earth is billions of years old ?
@meljatuck They've actually found hundreds of `missing links' (transitional fossils), Google it. The one you're talking about is a specific transitional fossil, which is the one that was supposed to link humans to our ancestors. I assume you mean Lucy, in which case, it wasn't a `glued together hoax', but it was discovered to be a different evolutionary branch than humans, so it wasn't transitional. But there have been hundreds of transitionals found, linking hundreds of other species together.
Of people lived with dinosaurs, we still do! They are called birds silly people. Thyreophorans like stegosaurus are extinct though, this carving proves nothing. Creationism is a joke.
We can draw pictures based on fossiles we find, why shoulndt they be able to do the same in the past?
But okei, since we have a picture of a dino from that time, that means they must exicsted along humans, since we now days have many pictures, we must have plenty of them still!!
Creationist: Where are the transitions between a baby and an adult? A child?! NO THAT'S A BABY!!! A teenager? THAT'S AN ADULT!! More transitions!!! RAAAAAWWWWWRRRRRRGGGGG!!!
And since we know you people will out genetic mutations of the Species of dogs we have. this only a product of imbreeding that lead to dead ends of the geno's of that species. They are not as effective as Wolves nor are they a product of evolution just imbreeding toward mutations. It's like 2 Brother and sister Red Necks screwing and creating a Retardation child. Mutation, Is that your proof of evolution? Nope just creates a flawed Moron, perfect example of an Athiest/Evolutionist in my Book
i would say fossils support a flood theory. things need to be buried quickly for it to be preserved and i would say a flood has also hydrologically sorted them in the layers. i understand plate shifting can move land around. but im not sure if it could create giant mountains. i asked you for an alternative to gentrys evidence. what are the results of the halos? acromegaly is proof that primitive looking skulls can exist within our own population today. escpecially if we found them in the ground.
@Gods0n1 I have already given you my answer on Gentry's Halos
"Radiohalos or pleochroic halos are microscopic, spherical shells of discolouration within minerals such as biotite that occur in granite and other igneous rocks. The shells are zones of radiation damage caused by the inclusion of minute radioactive crystals within the host crystal structure. The cause is not the problem. It's the time it takes for the process to occur."
@imrepohl To add to this the polonium halos he found were in fairly young dikes, not primordial granite. Other than that is the obvious spin he put on his findings. Gentry went into his scientific procedures with a preconcieved opinion, which turned his proper scientific procedure to that of bias; he did the proper science, but he interpreted the results wrong. This kind of non-objective behavior is not characteristic of scientsts of all. Rather, it's a characteristic of PSEUDO scientists.
@Gods0n1 A mountain is usually produced by the movement of lithospheric plates, either orogenic movement or epeirogenic movement. The compressional forces, isostatic uplift and intrusion of igneous matter forces surface rock upward, creating a landform higher than the surrounding features. The major mountains tend to occur in long linear arcs, indicating tectonic plate boundaries and activity.
@Gods0n1 So you're saying that because you think skulls of people who have suffered from Acromegaly look "primitive" it is proof of the "young Earth" theory? I want to make sure I'm not misunderstanding you when you say that. I'm guessing that when you say that they hold "primitive" traits, you are likening these traits to that of Homo neanderthalensis? Saying that something looks "primitive" is just ambiguous.
@imrepohl with "acromegaly" i am implying that, if modern day people can have elongated brow ridges and jaws. then this is very good evidence of an alternative to the evidence used to support ape to man transition. i just so happen to think the earth may be very old or young. but to say we know how old it is without an observer there and using calibrated dating methods can always be falsified with other evidence like gentrys.
@Gods0n1 I'm sorry but Acromegaly is not alternate evidence against evolution! You might have a case if every single extinct species under the genus homo that we have found had exactly the same features as someone with Acromegaly, but that's not what we find! Every extinct species under the genus homo has different features, not only in the skull, but the rest of the anatomy as well. All this information is available to you. All you have to do is do the research! It's really not that hard!
@imrepohl well i disagree. acromegally is not just the same deformation. it effects all parts of the body. and you can google the many various body parts it effects, and many shapes and sizes it comes in. im sorry but unless you can debunk this fact. it is a complete smack in the face to validate ape to man lineage.
@Gods0n1 This "fact" is easily debunked using DNA sequencing. Again, all this information is free and available for you to read online. Are you really saying that a species like homo erectus and every other extinct species found was really just a homo sapien suffering from Acromegaly? Every field of science brings forth evidence that is in favour of evolution, from chemistry to physics.
@Gods0n1 Also, something to add to the Gentry debate. Po-218 is a decay product of radon, which as a gas can be given off by a grain of uranium in one part of the rock and migrate to another part of the rock to form a uraniumless halo. Apparently a large number of radon atoms are caught or adsorbed at a particular point. This has not been proved experimentally, but is supported by the fact that Gentry's "polonium halos" are found along microscopic cracks in rocks that also contain uranium halos
@imrepohl the gentry observation sounds interesting. i would have to look more into it. you explained the process of how mountains could form. but im not sure if thats likely. we would need an "incredible" force to collide land to push mountains up to that magnatude. and earthquakes would suggest the opposite. but given the explaination you gave i would say it may be valid.
"sea shells on tops of mountains is evidence of tectonics" okay. so there was a massive ocean first for it to be on mountains.? also. i believe a flood account is a very good reason show how animals were fossilized. we have found fish fossilized in solid rock. what other methods would u imply fossilized things out in the open?
@imrepohl all the examples you gave arent the major ones im specifying. yes, we can find insects and plants in amber inclusions. we can find foot prints,... the other two MUST happen quickly like in the same day. im talking about major fossils. the kind we find in solid rock, fish and dinosaur alike... what do u think happened in nature for this to occur... remember, the animal as to be covered quickly like the same day for it to be fossilized.
@Gods0n1 Fossils come in all shapes and sizes, a resin fossil of an insect is just as "major" as a fish or a dinosaur. There are lots of ways that something can get covered quickly, mudslides, quick-sand, tar pits etc. Then as the continental plates move around the earth, crashing into each other, mountains are formed. Former sea floors are lifted up and become dry land.
@imrepohl mudslides work when mountains are around. many fossils are found in open plains. and we also have fish fossilized in solid rock. so im not sure tar pits and quicksand apply. i dont think techtonic plate shifting making mountains is observable. we do however see land breaking apart though.
@Gods0n1 Again, all this information is available to you online. "Mudslides happen when mountains are around"? The earth is older than it's life-forms, ergo mountains have been around longer as well. Tar pits do apply, they've found plenty of extinct species in tar pits. Again, all this information is free and available for you to find. I'm not going to be able to teach you 3rd grade geology forever you know!
The initial design and construction of the temple took place in the first half of the 12th century, during the reign of Suryavarman II (ruled 1113 – c. 1150). 860 YEARS AGO.
I've written a detailed rebuttal of the stegosaur carving claim, and recently posted it at my Paluxy website. Since I cannot leave URLs here, please Google "Paluxy Kuban" and when the website comes up, you'll see a link to the article at the end of the introduction, as well as another near the bottom of the article menu. Thanks, Glen
I've writen a detailed rebuttal of the stegosaur carving claim, and recently posted it at my Paluxy website. Since I cannot leave URLs here, please Google "Paluxy Kuban" and when the website comes up, you'll see a link to the article at the end of the introduction, as well as another near the bottom of the article menu. Thanks, Glen
@declanp1 Atheism is ignorance. look it up in the dictionary. The Stego is there son. IT IS THERE! THATS NOT A BUSH BEHIND IT! THATS NOT SOME OTHER ODD BALL MISINTERPRITED ANAIMAL! IT IS THERE A FUCKIGN STEGO! DEAL WITH IT!
@declanp1 Actually you need to look it up in the dictionary. Son it's means IGNORANCE! Lacking a belief in God or other things they can not see, touch or feel. equals IGNORANCE! There are plenty of things that you can NOT! See touch nor feel! nor even prove they exist. INCLUDING THE BULLSHIT IN MOST OF THE SCIENCE TEXT Books. But they take that as gospel. Hence furthermore. uh Atheist=Ignorance
@LordEli hi there. Your discussions on this video amuse me. First of all, I know it's hard and all, but please try to use grammar. If you actually know what that is, and no before you say it, it's not an abbreviation of grandmother.
Have you actually looked up the definition of atheism in a dictionary? And by the way, if you can actually summon up the two brain cells you possess to reply to this I've got a dare for you. I dare you not to write a single word in capital letters.
@imrepohl YOU KNOW WHAT IS IGNORANT ABOUT YOU? YOUR OBVIOUS ATTEMPT TO TRY AND PISS ME OFF! YOU FAIL RETARD AND THE CAPS ARE SIMPLY THERE TO SLAP YOU IN THE FACE YOU FUCKING IGNORANT LITTLE COCK SUCKING COCK ROACH! Asian Rhino.. fuck no son! It's a DINO! Obviously you Atheist RETARDS! REFUSE TO EVEN ACCEPT EVIDENCE WHEN ITS RIGHT IN FRONT OF YA! CLOSED MINDED FUCKTARDS! You ARE ALL FUCKING RETARD ESPECIALLY YOU IMREPOHL!!! Suck my dick retard! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
@LordEli naaaaw bless you! I hope that you're actually a normal person who has decided to create a youtube profile of a stereotypically idiotic Creationist to be hilariously ironic.
Please accept my apologies, but I'm going to have to decline your request for me to suck your dick as I'm straight, but I think it's very brave of you to ask a complete stranger who's sexual preference you didn't know. You might have more luck on a gay dating website. Hope that points you in the right direction :)
@imrepohl Oh stop pretending everyone knows you Atheist are closet queers. And thats the point we all know you moronic Atheist's really do Believe in God. it's only a fact that you are trying to rebel and refuse to admit you are being Ignorant whilst Dissing the Lord.After all Dawkin's is an ill read fruad who knows nothing of Christianity and religion so much as he tries to claim he's never even read up on teh subjects, and hitchen's is a fucking Journalist.. wow those to are bright right?
@LordEli LOL now you're just being silly. You can't "diss" something that you don't hold a belief in, it would be like me "dissing" Santa Claus, what would be the point?
Bless you. Go and have a lie down, that last message must have really given your brain a work out.
You do quite a lot of judging of people for someone who states to be a Christian.
@imrepohl Ditchkin's are their names.. Both ignorant on the subject they are slandering. and as for Darwin!!!! He had also doubted and turned away from the evolution theory for NO REAL LIVING! Proof or examples of evolution. the founder and creator of that HA HA Laughable ignorant theory which has ever so been exploded some years ago. Evolution=No Body of evidence. READ IT AGAIN! NO BODY OF EVIDENCE! Theoy and wishful thinking Only is evolution. God however. has proof all around us he exists
@LordEli You really don't understand how the scientific method works do you? Never mind, just go to bible class and leave the smart people to progressing the human race. The majority of Christians are perfectly happy to concede that evolution is a fact. They just say that God began the process of evolution. That's the line that the major Christian sects stick to.
@imrepohl I understand completely how you ignorant so called scientiffic minds are. I wonder what validates your claims as a scientific mind. What are ya son fresh out of grade school taking a few college courses and you think that makes you a scientific mind? You and your comment is a fucking joke. The smart people have progressed this world for thousands of years now the Religious people. Thank you we've been doing just fine. Atheists go to hell where ya belong
@LordEli haha wow, dense much? I didn't say you didn't understand the scientific MIND, but the scientific METHOD. See? They're two different words, with two different meanings. Just goes to show that you really don't understand what I was talking about. But you didn't want to talk about the topic I brought up by the looks of things, so I'll ask again. Why couldn't god have just started the evolutionary process?
@LordEli Oh by the way, while I'm out of "grade school" I have not attended university. But that doesn't stop me from being interested in science, and it doesn't stop me from understanding it. You seem to not want to understand it, and I think I know why. You're afraid of the fact that the universe wasn't made with us in mind.
@imrepohl You should take should be doing yourself that favor ya retard. cause only your moronic bunch is the doom of this world. My Children will pave the way for the future. More Godly people. your however will bwe the condemnation of the world
@LordEli "You should take should be doing yourself that favor ya retard."
Seriously? I mean, seriously? YOU'RE calling me a retard? Were you so proud of the fact that you managed to spell "should" properly that you thought you'd put it in a sentence twice?
You STILL haven't answered my question, why couldn't God have simply started the evolutionary process? Please try and answer the question instead of calling me a retard. It really doesn't do your case any favours.
@LordEli You have no clue, son! YOU are the ignorant and arrogant one. Ignorance has NOTHING to do with your belief or lack thereof in a god. Ignorance is the lack of knowledge, learning, information, etc. I have studied every religion (I highly doubt you have), and I came to my own conclusion rather than buying in to all the bullshit that was jammed down my throat since birth. It's called thinking for yourself. Try it sometime.
2. disbelief in the existence of a supreme being or beings.
Don't see ignorance anywhere in there. What's wrong with giving everyone the right to believe what they wish to believe? I don't begrudge your inanae beliefs. This is a free country, is it not?
@declanp1 I see alot of ignorance in there son. because they are NO MORE INTELLIGENT! Than anyone else whom believes differently on this earth. more so that Atheists are indeed LESS! Intelligent than those whom believe nay KNOW! That there IS God!
It doesn't exactly take a lot of knowledge to simply say "God dun it". It seems to me that Atheists are possibly the most sophisticated and intelligent people on this planet. Stephen Hawking is widely acclaimed to be the smartest man on Earth, yet he's an Athiest. Hmm...
Science and logic are against the existence of any god whatsoever. To KNOW something means to regard it as true beyond a doubt. Can you do that? I think not.
@LucasI3434 You know whats sad? cause you actually believe the bullshit you just spewed out. Atheist's are no more intelligent than any other person on this earth. and from the enlightened spiritual peoples veiw. atheist are no better off than the common retard what drowls and rubs shit in his hair, yes thats what an atheist is. sophisticated? HA! Very laughable comment. Stephen Hawkin is hardly the most intelligent person on this planet. and from the looks of his humped over crippled up ass
@LucasI3434 it's not a wonder why he's got God hating issue's Most intelligent cripples don't cry and complain and hate on God for how they were made. they actually praise God for peace he's brought them and the strength he's giving them to live life in the misery they in. Hawkins is a moron just like you hmm!
@LucasI3434 and by the way to answer your question son. yeah I DO KNOW! God exists beyond all DOUBT! I can and do that fool! Not you or anything nonsense a retard so called science major can do to disprove or shake me from my KNOWLEDGE! of God's existence! I've seen proof and witnessed it first hand. Your hero's only haven't because they followed the wrong books and way of thinking. God doesn't force anything on a person, And Satan has no desire to show himself and remove all doubt.
@LordEli Wow. I must admit i'm surprised at your own ignorant and childish refutations to my comment. But overall, i've heard 2 arguments here:
1.) Atheists are retards: i'm actually being calm in this situation and YOU are the one making these kinds of comparisons.
2.)Stephen Hawking is just a moronic cripple: i'd like to see YOU rival his intelligence, but i see how that'd be hard seeing as how you have the mental capabilitites of a mentally handicapped goldfish.
@LordEli There is much doubt as to the existence of God. The Bible for instance demonstrates this easily recogizable fact. The bible presents numerous contradictions, historical falacies, and an overall bastardization of logic. Evolution and radiometric dating, which has dated the Earth as 4.8 billion years old has disproven the story of Adam and Eve and Creation as well as a 6000 year old earth, therefore the Bible is not infallible, therefore it's not God's word, therefore there is no God
@LucasI3434 No it certainly does not. Only moron such as you would make such a statment. you misunderstand what you've read in the bible because you are a fool. And fools are blind folded from the truth. as it was written as it indeed is. don't even dare say such ignorant nonsense again. when everything in the Revlation is unfolding today evidence all around you son! And as evidence that the past written in the bible did in FACT happened! don't say ignorant shit your ass has no clue about
@LordEli I don't see YOU giving any evidence. I don't see MYSELF cursing like a fool. If the Bible is the truth, then why has the story of Noah's ark been disproven so easily? Why do Acts 1:18 and Matthew 27:5 contradict themselves in representing the death of Judas? If I'm the ignorant fool, then why are you the one spewing hate speech and cursing?
And by the way, I'm not your SON, and I beg of you, please, do NOT have children.
@LucasI3434 You are making yourself look like a fool, by pretending You are someone with class and BYW I have many Son's.. and they are by far more promising than you will ever be.
@LordEli You're one to talk about "class". You've given no evidence, no proof, no facts, just complete and utter ignorance to science and common sense. You're comments are completely devoid of intelligence just insults and illogicalities. Personally i could care less whether your sons are "promising", because i'm getting a full ride to the college of my choice when i graduate hs based on test scores, grades, etc. and i will be striving for multiple PhD's in various fields of study.
@LucasI3434 You DON'T SEEM TO GET IT YOU FUCKIGN RETARD! IT IS NOT MY FUCKING JOB TO GIV YOU EVIDENCE, PROOF ETC. I have indeed given youf acts. You go fuckign research dickweed you will find your lack of faith waning once, You'd researched the very subject you hate on that you obviously know NOTHING ABOUT!
@LordEli You're the one making the extraordinary claims in the first place. Where's the extraordinary evidence to support them? That's all i ask of you. I've done more research on this subject than you have obviously, which is why i lost "faith" in any sort of god. Judging by how this argument has resorted with me trying to reason with you, and YOU cursing me out, i'd say you're the one that knows nothing about the subject at hand.
@LucasI3434 Well son that is because my experiences are truth and proof, and I simply do not tell lies. my claims are based on facts and experience. If you want proof you gotta find it. because I am not going to go do the hard work it'd take so you can see the truth as well. thats your job
I've done the research, i've seen the facts, i've read the evidence. It's not my job to provide the evidence seeing as how YOU were the one making outlandish claims in the first place. Where's your support besides some "personal experiences" which lend ZERO credibility to your claims? I, unlike yourself, research a topic before i criticize it so i don't look like an idiot when arguing it. You've given nothing towards this argument except insults.
@LucasI3434 Obviously SON! You did not reseatch these matters. because! if you have researched more on God and spirtualky, demons angels etc. You'd found out just as I have that they indeed and in FACT! Exist! It's called delve deep into Occultism son. And by thinking you can read a book to then decide with your own limited mind that something does not exist because others told you they ddin't You proven yourself a complete and utter fool. a serious MORON! Sorry SON you are a retard!
@LordEli I've researched various subjects that disprove the existance of any god. Astrophysics, biology, molecular biology, solar physics, evolution, abiogenesis, COMMON SENSE etc. For the third time, YOU were the one making the claims in the first place. Where's your support?
@LordEli So what's so different between reading The Origin of Species and deciding it's fact and reading the BIBLE and deciding it's fact? They're both books, so what's the difference?
Oh wait, the bible has little to no evidence behind it! That's my problem. Science explains far more than religion EVER has, because simply saying that "god did it" isn't enough of an answer for the intellectuals of the world. They strive to find more plausible answers for everything. So far, they're succeeding.
@LordEli If you think that Atheists are the morons and ignoramus' of the human race, i refer you to this video
watch?v=mbef07aQtB8
Before you just pass this off as BS, at least check the sources of information in the description. It provides verifiable evidence against your claims that Atheists are "retards".
@LordEli Thanks for proving my point to everyone on here. You simply passed it off as BS without even considering the information; known FACTS about society, verifiable evidence against you claims.
So YOU know more than 70% of the scientific community? YOU know more than the professionals that conducted the studies? YOU know more than the majority of Nobel Prize winners? I'd love to see you submit what you think to some sort of peer reviewed journal to see what reception you'd get.
@LordEli Still no reply to my question, how depressingly predictable. I'll try again, why couldn't God have simply begun the evolutionary process? Please think about this and get back to me.
@LordEli "You DON'T SEEM TO GET IT YOU FUCKIGN RETARD! IT IS NOT MY FUCKING JOB TO GIV YOU EVIDENCE, PROOF ETC.". Fantastic, first class. See, the problem is that you are indeed the one that needs to bring forth evidence to support your belief (specifically in the Christian god). There have been literally thousands of different religions around the world, so what makes you so sure that you have faith in the right deity? What "evidence" do you have to support your faith?
@imrepohl FUNNY THING IS SON!! YOU ARE THE FUCKING RETARD! Because you don't realize it's NEVER the believers Job to convince you or give you evidence of their beliefs, Evidence and proof is found by He whom searches for it,. Since your retarded ass Isn't searching for the answers and Haven't in the past. Your lack of evidence is your own failing not mine or anyone elses. You want proof you find it. I've already seen the truth. One day you will find yours RETARD!
@LordEli And you call yourself a Christian? According to the gospel of Matthew, it is the believers job to proselytise "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world.". You still haven't answered my question, why couldn't God have begun the evolutionary process?
@imrepohl No I call myself your Lord and Master, And you BOY! Need to learn your place. God is above all, God is above and beyond your ignorant failed attempt to comprehend anything. You are the type that like to critisize about things You are to ignorant to understand. You are typical of an internet atheist. You take the time to look up some bible to text to throw towards someone whom believe to think it makes you look cute or intelligent. Only makes you look more pathetic. You been schooled!!
@LordEli LOL still no answer to my question then. I'll try again. Why couldn't God have begun the evolutionary process?
I take no pleasure in schooling creationist tools like yourself on what your own holy text actually says, but honestly it sounds like you have never even bothered to read the bible.
@LordEli STILL no answer. LOL. Understand (if you can) that I don't really expect one, but like pointing out to you that you don't have an answer to my question. I'll ask again, why couldn't God have simply started the evolutionary process?
@imrepohl You obviously are ignorant. I didn't answer you before because I simply had to much responses to take care of. Don't pressume to think you can stump me bitch boy. Now IF! and I say IF God created Mankind and the worlds speices through evolution then it would clearly of stated so in thye Bible and True history Book! But since it says no such thing and Evolution is just a Hairbrained THEORY Which has been disproven and discredited so far back as the 80's I think it time to let it go
@LordEli LOL, ah yes of course, you were just too darn busy to reply. You make the assumption that the bible is the word of God, how do you know that this is true? Remember saying "because the bible says that it's the word of God, that makes it the word of God", isn't an argument.
You say that the bible does not mention evolution so therefore it's false, the bible doesn't mention gravity either, do you have the same beef with the theory of gravity?
@imrepohl So as proven Since you know You retard evolutions fail to realize and admit that Your "THEORY" this ignorance called evolution has infact been DEMOLISHED Already and proven FALSE! It's time you accept it. Evolution is a Jokeas are you LOL! It's called chain links . links in the chain..l gone missing. nonexistent! Never proven to have been a factual creature no living or dead evidence no fossil evidence. Therefore NO EVOLUTION. most importantly no living specimens today hence FAKE!
1. look up the scientific definition of the word "Theory" and then look up the scientific definition of the word "Hypothesis" which is basically what you think the word theory means in scientific terms.
2. If evolution has been "demolished", why do the majority of Christians accept it as a scientific fact?
@imrepohl Do I need to continue to drill this into your retarded head? No living animals today evolving still as they were for last few thousand years or even a million. hence evoltuon hasn't a leg to stand on not even a singlular SOLITARY CELL!
@LordEli Aristotle said that it is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. Keeping that quote in mind I presume as you have a very different view on evolution to most people, religious or not, you must have studied evolution to some degree. After all, in order to disagree with a statement, you have to know what the statement is saying! So please tell me, in your own words (we can all check wikipedia) what the theory of evolution is.
@imrepohl Ok well I'll play your game. Now according to Darwin's silyl theory, Mankind was supposed to evolved from apes like a chain link species innerlocking with each other. every other anaimal follow a same simular path in their own. This theory was exploded. Now your hero this moron called Richard Dawkins is now saying Man anjd apes evolved seperately away from same family from different anmila hm sounds like someones grasping at straws right?
@LordEli So in continuing with this saying that Darwin was wrong and things happened different. leads to the same Fucking question. Where are the fucking "Missing" chain link of animals inbetween the evolution? See what I am saying? Evolution has been EXPLODED DISPROVEN! LACK OF EVIDENCE! now you moron think Dawkins is some kind of scientific God. yes you do,. but he is jsut another moron, whom is A Satanic anti Christian anti true histpry. His idea's are flimsy and stupid.
@LordEli Um, I've never even mentioned Richard Dawkins. Stop trying to skip around the issue and just give me, in your own words, the definition of the theory of evolution.
@LordEli And there we have it. You couldn't have proven my point any better. "Mankind was supposed to evolved from apes like a chain link species innerlocking with each other. every other anaimal follow a same simular path in their own."
If THAT'S your understanding of the theory of evolution then how can you expect to convince people that your position is the right one? You couldn't even give me a definition of the theory of evolution.
@imrepohl Now that we look at the facts of still being in the smae place There are NO interlocking species NO Proof! And as Darwin was concerned with. there is No species in the process of evolving today which at that point in his time he stated! NO OBSERVABLE PROOF No observable evidence living today or then of one animal chaning into another! It simply does not stand nor work. Evolution "THEORY" Exploded and destroyed.
@LordEli "there is No species in the process of evolving today which at that point in his time he stated! NO OBSERVABLE PROOF No observable evidence living today or then of one animal chaning into another!"
Case in point, THIS is your understanding of the theory of evolution?! Surely you've studied the evidence for evolution? Otherwise how can you disagree with something you don't know about?
@imrepohl The CASE in POINT! is Evolution is a FUCKING FRAUD! A JOKE! That process which DOES NOT HAPPEN! It is nonexistent. Obviously I know about it than you do! I've pointed out the founder of that ignorant theory, on his very OWN doubts and refuting of it. And retarded rebelous children like you wanna keep swinging the nuts. in the 70's and 90's it was Satanism. 90's to early 0's it was Wicca and paganism. now its Atheism's turn. point is' its just a fad trend. that will fade soon
@imrepohl And the funny part about it is, those from the 80's and 90's you know the Satanist's and wicca's and Pagan's They say their prayers to their Demon's and False god's and their spells which they cast on people. and in each case they find even More a reason to believe what they believe! So in their minds they are not wrong just an an atheist ignorantly thinks. unlike the useless atheist they are at least seeing and found evidence of the spirit. so you pray to Richard Dawkins.. AH HA AH HA
@LordEli Thank you for proving me right, you can't even supply me with your definition of the theory of evolution. You just went on another tangent about nothing to do with what we were talking about. Paganism? Satanism? You're bringing up these subjects instead of answering a question that any primary school student could tell me, and you haven't answered my question about why the majority of Christians accept evolution as a scientific fact. You just keep shoving your head deeper into the sand.
@imrepohl Oh for crying out loud, Youa re such a fucking ignorant moron we already know WHAT the THEORY of evolution is you fucking moron. I do not fucking need to supply you retard ass the definition of evolution. YOU, ME THESE FUCKING READERS ALREADY Fucking know what the definition is. Don't play me for a fucking school boy learner you fucking imbecilic immature jack ass. Isn't anyone proving your sorry ass right about anything. You just keep Deluding yourself bitch you fail!
@LordEli And yet again you prove me right! Still no definition of the theory of evolution, just insults and you shoving your head deeper and deeper into the sand. If you know what the definition of the theory of evolution is, tell us! Prove to me that you're not just another creationist tool who disagrees with a scientific theory without looking at what it actually says.
@imrepohl No son, what it is is now your just being a condescending peice of shit prick whom knows he's been out classed. I am through wasting time on an Ignorant little spec of shit like you. Have a nice day retard. YOU have proven ME RIGHT!
@LordEli LOL still no definition, just insults and empty statements. The vast majority of Christians world-wide accept evolution, you've decided to try and disprove something you haven't even bothered to study. It's pathetically obvious.
@imrepohl So responding to your Retardation, And showing what a moron you are for repeatedly showing everyone how weak and pathetic your argument and attempt was. Who is the moron? certainly not I, but you on the other hand.
@imrepohl Now Evolution, in short basically means to ascend from a more suitable organism to adapt to situations better than the previous life form/ organism transcending a lesser state. .. No animal has changed from 1 to another simply does not happen. So evolution in your idea DOES NOT EXIST! We are not doing so NOW! We have never observed it happening. Have no species in the process of nor fossil of any animal changing into another
@LordEli LOL, saying things like "No animal has changed from 1 to another simply does not happen" not only makes no sense as a sentence, but shows your complete lack of understanding about the subject that you disagree with! Again, how can you disagree with a statement that you know nothing about?
Also, why did you remove your previous comments? And you still haven't answered my other question, why do the majority of Christians accept the theory of evolution?
@imrepohl There is not a single FOSSIL AT ALL! Of any species or the species inbetween 1 from another! Nothing Observable NOW! nor then or will ever will be found. cause it simply is a fiction of Darwin and Yours and many like you imagination. Yes It IS Your religion! Darwin on the otherhand.. repented at the end and begged God for forgiveness as.. Anton Lavey did indeed do! Now SUCK MY DICK! Don't pester me with your ignorance ever again! You have been OBLITERATED!
@LordEli haha fantastic, still going off topic. Even if Darwin was a death-bed conversion (which he wasn't) that wouldn't invalidate his theory, the majority of Christians accept evolution.
"There is not a single FOSSIL AT ALL!" Seriously?
Even if evolution was a religion (which it isn't) why would saying that it was be any form of validation for your claims over evolution?
@imrepohl AHEM NO MORON! The MAJORITY! Of Christianity does NOT Accept evolution, nor does anyone else. that's only ridiculous biologic theories thats unproven and has been dismantled go away little moronic male child. As which everyone has witness you have been OBLITERATED. You little pathetic rotten little fucking troll. This is your last response from me because I have proven youa re a jackass answered your ignorant question and you still wanna run in circles and pretend otherwise. FUCK YOU
@LordEli The catholic church, which is the largest Christian sect with over 1 billion members, accepts evolution and their stance is called Theistic Evolution. The majority of Presbyterians take the same stance. You are in the minority on this one. You just got schooled. Again.
"this is your last response from me". Again, showing yourself to be the moron that you are. You mean to say "This is my last response to you". Creationist IDiot.
whats interesting is people depict dinosaurs giving live birth on the ica burial stones. this might be plausible considering we do have a mammal today that lays eggs ( platypus ). but this is all speculation of course.
@Gods0n1 not to mention, if you read job 40:21, it says, He lieth under the lotus-trees, in the covert of the reed, and fens. this is from the jewish tanakh. none of the massive, herbivorous dinosaurs with "tails like a cedar", could rest under a tree like the way its being decribed. oh and the ica stones have been shown countless times to be a hoax, as well as the acambaro stones.
@generosos87 the only animals that we can catagorize it with would be a modern elephant or hippo. because it describes it as an animal that goes in the water. but it also describes it with bones like bronze tubes, and a powerful stomach. and whats interesting is it says can anyone capture it by the eyes, or peirce its nose? that would have to imply it would be either out of reach, or too big to fathom. so lets not be intellectually dishonest
@Gods0n1 i doubt that, especially since none of the descriptions you have just made are mentioned. or they could be, not entirely sure. you have a reference?
Your assuming that every stegosaurus had spikes on it's tail. That would be like saying every tiger had teeth like the sabor tooth.
yec1JF 2 months ago
@yec1JF Why do people only scrutinize what I said about the sculpture itself and not even consider the other information I present?
As I said in the video its 'possible' that its a stegosaurus but even if it is it does not mean they actually saw one as man has been digging up dinosaur bones since ancient times but inaccurately putting them together so putting the spikes on the head sounds like a common error for people that only see horns on the head of an animal.
flammamancer 2 months ago
i guess the head is bigger because their computer was down that day and couldnt use auto-cad. is this erkle narrating this vid? GOD said it. that settles it. doesnt matter if you or i believe it.
ryanbrooke777 2 months ago
We evolution/god debaters need to start saving important sites in a document on their computer. Notice I have spaces in between the URL. For Immediate transitional forms use: talkorigins. org/faqs/faq-transitional.html and please 'like' my proof for evolution facebook site: facebook. com/creationistssuck ; The information section of it is unbeatable and I am basically handing you an automatic gun of science. It will shut down an argument in one post and educate the ignorant.
iliveon 3 months ago
Not to be biased, but you must try your best to accumulate your mind and persuade the listener and yourself as much as you can to convince that the carving does not look anything like a stegosaurus. It's a creature that is behind a bush...really? It is as if this video is a satire. Well, you tried...
digga115 3 months ago
Of course man and dinosaurs lived together... haven't you ever watched the Flintstones
gardnjw 3 months ago
That block could've been re-carved also. Maybe to get more tourists.
You can see in other videos, it looks different. No patina.
Even if it wasn't, that block's no proof dinosaurs were there 1000 years ago.
1st it's "No room on the Ark". Now it's this.
That's what you get for believing something so absurd.
DaddyOD13 4 months ago
You talk, talk and say nothing at all. How come?
allexcosta 6 months ago
the people dug up some bones and put them together the woung way. then draw the animal of how they thought it looked
Tosca3MozartMob 7 months ago
its been proven that the people from angkor wat knew and worshipped the stegosaurs.
guineapiggyman 8 months ago
@guineapiggyman Evidence?
IKillBabyKittensLOL 5 months ago
@IKillBabyKittensLOL theres plenty.
guineapiggyman 5 months ago
Foiran is a complete idiot. He needs to research things before he opens his big worthless mouth before he writes anything.
Carbon-14 has been used to date unmineralized Dinosaur Bones 3 and other organic matter
C-14 Dating & Dino Bones <--Google it you moron
ringlerum 8 months ago
Cyclops and Griffin are from mythology, they were not based on fossils, but rather the characteristics that such parts represented. For example, the lion represented strength and the wings speed. This guy just makes stupid stuff up with no historical concern.
What an incredible idiot.
RomansGalatians 10 months ago 2
@RomansGalatians its been a year since I made this video so I do not have my sources handy but actually I am not the one that is saying that the Cyclops and Griffin are from fossils, rather that is from experts that make a convincing case.
flammamancer 10 months ago
@flammamancer the animal on the carving is a chameleon.. Dude just look at what the carving animal on top of.. it's standing on a branch.. grasping onto a branch i should say like most chameleons do ..
lifes40123 4 months ago
This guy is an idiot. It clearly show a Stegosaurus. And buy the why, most of you people with AN OPINION have been taught your OPINION by Mainstream Science. And Science is being proved WRONG a lot. Carbon dating is based on the Carbon 14 in the Fossil v.s. the Carbon 14 in the air. The less Carbon 14 in the Fossils, the older it is suppose to be. Rightt. The Animal takes in the Carbon 14 through plants & other animals (If a Carnivore). Carbon dating is flawed.
ringlerum 10 months ago
@ringlerum You are an idiot. Carbon dating???? If you had any idea about what you are talking about you would know that carbon dating is not used for dating dinosaur fossilises. Carbon dating is used for much younger things (almost exclusively within the epoch of modern humans). To think research on dinosaurs is flawed due to radio carbon dating simply shows what an ignoramus you are.
foiran 8 months ago
@foiran Foiran, you are a complete idiot. You need to research things before you open your big worthless mouth while writing reply's. Learn something besides sitting behind you keyboard jacking off to porn while you moms at the store. You Fucking retard.
Carbon-14 has been used to date unmineralized Dinosaur Bones 3 and other organic matter
C-14 Dating & Dino Bones <--Google it you moron
ringlerum 8 months ago
@ringlerum Dipshit. I don’t need to google it, I learned how to do carbon dating in university. So unless you also studied archaeology and learned carbon dating fuck off
foiran 8 months ago
Poor argumentation. Trying to make an argument on the bases on what people thought they were actually seeing long ago
Cyclops somehow is supposed be derived from an elephant skill. How can you make that leap? Do you not think that people would have known what an elephant was and known what its remains looked like. lol
Surfxeo 11 months ago
@Surfxeo They dug up a grave in Greece that was suppose to be a cyclopes but found elephant bones instead.
Same thing with the griffin.
My point is that the ancients dug up the bones of various animals both living and extinct and without the insights of modern science and anthropology instead incorporated them into their mythology.
flammamancer 11 months ago
@flammamancer Your point is moot. You are still relying on supposition to prove a point. You are placing your myth ideas into the distant past. Just don't call what you are doing as "scientific"
Even your griffin claim of it being a triceratops kind is ridiculous.
Surfxeo 11 months ago
@Surfxeo sorry but you are wasting you time. these creationist morons, well they are just that morons, there’s no way they will be able to understand that they don’t know fuck all about what they talk about. it wont stop them from trying to commandeer science for thyself while making idiotic claims for their belief claiming they don’t need to rely on science.
foiran 8 months ago
Besides the tail being to large for a Rhino the horn is in the wrong place. Rhinos had very big populations 900 yrs ago. So they would have known what they looked like. A "bush". Why is that depiction the only animal that has any thing else in it's circle??? Again the latest research says Dino's went through morphological changes at different stages of their development. Causing many juvenile to be misidentified as different species!
Howie47 1 year ago
@Howie47 Do you honestly believe that dinosaurs existed less then a thousand years ago?
flammamancer 1 year ago
@flammamancer What if they all flew east for the winter? It's a common fact that dinosaurs had magical powers and advanced head laser technology.
TheBlitMaster 4 months ago
@flammamancer What if they all flew east for the winter? It's a common fact that dinosaurs had magical powers and advanced head laser technology.
TheBlitMaster 4 months ago
@Howie47 Other animals at the site due have other elements inside their "circles" by which I assume you mean frame. See madeuthink's video in rebutal, "Creationism's best evience yet" or simply look through the published pictures of the site..
TheJudoKevin 11 months ago
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@Howie47 Other animals at the site do have other elements inside their "circles" by which I assume you mean frame. See madeuthink's video in rebutal, "Creationism's best evience yet" or simply look through the published pictures of the site..
TheJudoKevin 11 months ago
@Howie47 Waho! Holly crap!!!!! dinosaurs went through morphological changes as they grew up!!!!!!! that’s astonishing!!!! hang on.... ? Don’t all forms of life go through morphological changes as they grow up?????
foiran 8 months ago
@foiran God, why do I have to school idiots. The morphological changes some life forms go through is drastic enough, to make them appear to be totally different species. At different stages. Humans are always recognizable as humans. Some creatures have totally different anatomy, at different stages. Like, tadpole, half tadpole, then frog. OK, now go kiss your sorry ass good night, and go back to sleep.
Howie47 8 months ago
@Howie47 That’s neither here nor there, the fact is humans and dinosaurs NEVER coexisted, only a creationist moron would look at a picture, carving or whatever, made by people in a different time and different culture and assume that the creators of the thing were making it with the same interpretation that they give it hundreds of years later backed by a completely different culture and world view. I suppose you think minitores and Medusa existed too.
foiran 8 months ago
@foiran So you admit your previous post was meaningless drivel. As is your calling creationist "morons". There is mountains of evidence of men and dinosaur existing at the same time. Including preserved tracks, fossils found together, artifacts by the gazillions, historical accounts and the handed down traditions of virtually every culture on earth. If you think it's all imagination gone amok. Maybe it's imagination gone amok, which is says evolution is true!
Howie47 8 months ago
@Howie47 And how exactly am I admitting to drivel? Morphological changes have nothing to do with the possibility of humans and dinosaurs coexisting. Which they never did. Get your so called mountains of evidence and take it to a university (a real one not ones like Patriot “University”) and get actual qualified experts to asses it for you, instead of unqualified creationist morons. You will be told, by the real experts, that they never coexisted.
foiran 8 months ago
@Howie47 I have actually studied university level human evolution so I do have an idea of what Im talking about. I also understand how various radiometric dating techniques work, and I have a general understanding of site formation processes so I understand a bit about how to assess the place and context in which artefacts are found. And I assure you. Humans and dinosaurs NEVER coexisted.
foiran 8 months ago
@Howie47 Oh, and by the way, the Flintstones doesn’t count as evidence for human/dinosaur coexistence. Ill let you in on a little secret, the Flintstones is a cartoon, its not real.
foiran 8 months ago
@foiran In your brilliantly indoctrinated mind, ancient wall drawings of dinoasuars and men, are the first "Flintstones" cartoons! LOL
Howie47 8 months ago
@Howie47 That’s highly unlikely, once again, you like the moron putting this up as evidence for dinosaur/human coexistence, are imputing your own, and I would argue a touch erroneous, interpretation of the carving as the interpretation of the people who carved it.
foiran 8 months ago
@Howie47 There is no evidence for Human-dinosaur coexistence, only evidence against it. Modern human fossils have been found in Africa dated to somewhere in the order of 130,000 years ago at the earliest. Dinosaurs lived up to about 60 to 70 MILLION years ago. If this screws with your silly superstition and imaginary friend in the sky, too bad.
foiran 8 months ago
@foiran Your childish insistence of being right. Doesn't "screw" with any thing. You have no proof or evidence that humans didn't coexist with dinosaurs. The whole materialist paradigm is a house of cards or straw man. There are still dinosaurs alive today. It is only your rhetorical naming conventions, that lets you slither out from under the rock hard reality, you hate so much.
Howie47 8 months ago
@Howie47 OK, now proving they didn’t coexist is a different thing to proving they did. I wont confuse you with why. The point is that the dates of human remains, indeed our oldest hominid ancestors to walk upright, Australopithecus at about 6000,000 years ago I believe, were around millions of years after dinosaurs became extinct.
foiran 8 months ago
@Howie47 And no there are no dinosaurs alive today, if you understood evolutionary theory you would know that crocodiles and alligators, the things people usually like to call living dinosaurs are contemporary species NOT dinosaurs, the fossil record doesn’t have to demonstrate it any more because we have genetics now, which substantiates the fossil record by the way.
foiran 8 months ago
@Howie47 Throw away your bible and read some actual science, and no not the nonsense written by the likes of Kent Hovind, and you may come to learn something, particularly how mind bending stupid creationism is.
foiran 8 months ago
@foiran Just to screw with your inconsistent logic a little. "crocodiles and alligators, the things people usually like to call living dinosaurs are contemporary species" Birds are also contemporaries with what is commonly called dinos. Yet people, evolutionist people, like to call them living dinosaurs. Or at least their off spring! Oh, by the way, Crocofbullshit is older then "Australopithecus"!
Howie47 8 months ago
@Howie47 There’s nothing inconsistent with my logic, birds are no more living dinosaurs than crocodiles or alligators. Put it this way. If it is alive today it is a contemporary species, it may have characteristics like prehistoric animals, like lungfish, but are contemporary species. This means that no, birds were not around when dinosaurs were around. But go ahead and sound like an idiot, gives me some amusement at least
foiran 8 months ago
@Howie47 Oh yeah, one more thing, just to help you out a bit, Jurassic Park is not evidence for dinosaurs living today, don’t tell any one, this is a secret; it was just a move, it wasn’t real.
foiran 8 months ago
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@foiran "Oh yeah, one more thing, just to help you out a bit, Jurassic Park is not evidence for dinosaurs living today, don’t tell any one, this is a secret; it was just a (move), it wasn’t real." Yea, the same kind of MOVE that Darwin had, when he made up evolution, and you eat it up like it's a Babe Ruth candy bar. Oh, and they call that a "Freudian slip". Not a mere type-O.
Howie47 8 months ago
Your argument is self refuting. So maybe your the one lacking logic and reason! By "proto" you must mean (immature). According to lattest research immature Dino's differer dramatically from the adults. Causing a big inflation of no. of dino species. So the Stegosaurus carving could be an immature one. Generally dino infants did have much larger heads then adults. Dino's aren't reptiles! "A Rhino with a big dino tail standing in front of a bush"?, shows your ignorance for sure. You fail.
Howie47 1 year ago
Hey do all ya,ll koolaid drinkers remember the only missing link ever found was supported by NatGeo only to be a glued together hoax ! Happened around '99 which brings me to the question ... where,s all the innumerable amount of "links" given the earth is billions of years old ?
meljatuck 1 year ago
@meljatuck They've actually found hundreds of `missing links' (transitional fossils), Google it. The one you're talking about is a specific transitional fossil, which is the one that was supposed to link humans to our ancestors. I assume you mean Lucy, in which case, it wasn't a `glued together hoax', but it was discovered to be a different evolutionary branch than humans, so it wasn't transitional. But there have been hundreds of transitionals found, linking hundreds of other species together.
DarthFennec 10 months ago
Of people lived with dinosaurs, we still do! They are called birds silly people. Thyreophorans like stegosaurus are extinct though, this carving proves nothing. Creationism is a joke.
Aspongeinmauve 1 year ago
We can draw pictures based on fossiles we find, why shoulndt they be able to do the same in the past?
But okei, since we have a picture of a dino from that time, that means they must exicsted along humans, since we now days have many pictures, we must have plenty of them still!!
well no.
RavenofDenmark 1 year ago
Creationist: Where are the transitions between a baby and an adult? A child?! NO THAT'S A BABY!!! A teenager? THAT'S AN ADULT!! More transitions!!! RAAAAAWWWWWRRRRRRGGGGG!!!
LucasI3434 1 year ago
And since we know you people will out genetic mutations of the Species of dogs we have. this only a product of imbreeding that lead to dead ends of the geno's of that species. They are not as effective as Wolves nor are they a product of evolution just imbreeding toward mutations. It's like 2 Brother and sister Red Necks screwing and creating a Retardation child. Mutation, Is that your proof of evolution? Nope just creates a flawed Moron, perfect example of an Athiest/Evolutionist in my Book
LordEli 1 year ago
@LordEli Get a life son! You are clueless and I have no time for you. Peace!
declanp1 1 year ago
i would say fossils support a flood theory. things need to be buried quickly for it to be preserved and i would say a flood has also hydrologically sorted them in the layers. i understand plate shifting can move land around. but im not sure if it could create giant mountains. i asked you for an alternative to gentrys evidence. what are the results of the halos? acromegaly is proof that primitive looking skulls can exist within our own population today. escpecially if we found them in the ground.
Gods0n1 1 year ago
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@Gods0n1 I have already given you my answer on Gentry's Halos
"Radiohalos or pleochroic halos are microscopic, spherical shells of discolouration within minerals such as biotite that occur in granite and other igneous rocks. The shells are zones of radiation damage caused by the inclusion of minute radioactive crystals within the host crystal structure. The cause is not the problem. It's the time it takes for the process to occur."
imrepohl 1 year ago
@imrepohl To add to this the polonium halos he found were in fairly young dikes, not primordial granite. Other than that is the obvious spin he put on his findings. Gentry went into his scientific procedures with a preconcieved opinion, which turned his proper scientific procedure to that of bias; he did the proper science, but he interpreted the results wrong. This kind of non-objective behavior is not characteristic of scientsts of all. Rather, it's a characteristic of PSEUDO scientists.
LucasI3434 1 year ago
@Gods0n1 A mountain is usually produced by the movement of lithospheric plates, either orogenic movement or epeirogenic movement. The compressional forces, isostatic uplift and intrusion of igneous matter forces surface rock upward, creating a landform higher than the surrounding features. The major mountains tend to occur in long linear arcs, indicating tectonic plate boundaries and activity.
imrepohl 1 year ago
@Gods0n1 So you're saying that because you think skulls of people who have suffered from Acromegaly look "primitive" it is proof of the "young Earth" theory? I want to make sure I'm not misunderstanding you when you say that. I'm guessing that when you say that they hold "primitive" traits, you are likening these traits to that of Homo neanderthalensis? Saying that something looks "primitive" is just ambiguous.
imrepohl 1 year ago
@imrepohl with "acromegaly" i am implying that, if modern day people can have elongated brow ridges and jaws. then this is very good evidence of an alternative to the evidence used to support ape to man transition. i just so happen to think the earth may be very old or young. but to say we know how old it is without an observer there and using calibrated dating methods can always be falsified with other evidence like gentrys.
Gods0n1 1 year ago
@Gods0n1 I'm sorry but Acromegaly is not alternate evidence against evolution! You might have a case if every single extinct species under the genus homo that we have found had exactly the same features as someone with Acromegaly, but that's not what we find! Every extinct species under the genus homo has different features, not only in the skull, but the rest of the anatomy as well. All this information is available to you. All you have to do is do the research! It's really not that hard!
imrepohl 1 year ago
@imrepohl well i disagree. acromegally is not just the same deformation. it effects all parts of the body. and you can google the many various body parts it effects, and many shapes and sizes it comes in. im sorry but unless you can debunk this fact. it is a complete smack in the face to validate ape to man lineage.
Gods0n1 1 year ago
@Gods0n1 This "fact" is easily debunked using DNA sequencing. Again, all this information is free and available for you to read online. Are you really saying that a species like homo erectus and every other extinct species found was really just a homo sapien suffering from Acromegaly? Every field of science brings forth evidence that is in favour of evolution, from chemistry to physics.
imrepohl 1 year ago
@Gods0n1 Also, something to add to the Gentry debate. Po-218 is a decay product of radon, which as a gas can be given off by a grain of uranium in one part of the rock and migrate to another part of the rock to form a uraniumless halo. Apparently a large number of radon atoms are caught or adsorbed at a particular point. This has not been proved experimentally, but is supported by the fact that Gentry's "polonium halos" are found along microscopic cracks in rocks that also contain uranium halos
imrepohl 1 year ago
@imrepohl the gentry observation sounds interesting. i would have to look more into it. you explained the process of how mountains could form. but im not sure if thats likely. we would need an "incredible" force to collide land to push mountains up to that magnatude. and earthquakes would suggest the opposite. but given the explaination you gave i would say it may be valid.
Gods0n1 1 year ago
@Gods0n1 How exactly do earthquakes suggest the opposite to the gravitational forces at work in the Earth's crust movement?
imrepohl 1 year ago
"sea shells on tops of mountains is evidence of tectonics" okay. so there was a massive ocean first for it to be on mountains.? also. i believe a flood account is a very good reason show how animals were fossilized. we have found fish fossilized in solid rock. what other methods would u imply fossilized things out in the open?
Gods0n1 1 year ago
@Gods0n1 "what other methods would u imply fossilized things out in the open?"
1. Authigenic mineralisation
2. Replacement and recrystallization
3. Adpression (compression - impression) fossils
There's three to get you started.
Oh, and this one.
Resin fossils
imrepohl 1 year ago
@imrepohl all the examples you gave arent the major ones im specifying. yes, we can find insects and plants in amber inclusions. we can find foot prints,... the other two MUST happen quickly like in the same day. im talking about major fossils. the kind we find in solid rock, fish and dinosaur alike... what do u think happened in nature for this to occur... remember, the animal as to be covered quickly like the same day for it to be fossilized.
Gods0n1 1 year ago
@Gods0n1 Fossils come in all shapes and sizes, a resin fossil of an insect is just as "major" as a fish or a dinosaur. There are lots of ways that something can get covered quickly, mudslides, quick-sand, tar pits etc. Then as the continental plates move around the earth, crashing into each other, mountains are formed. Former sea floors are lifted up and become dry land.
imrepohl 1 year ago
@imrepohl mudslides work when mountains are around. many fossils are found in open plains. and we also have fish fossilized in solid rock. so im not sure tar pits and quicksand apply. i dont think techtonic plate shifting making mountains is observable. we do however see land breaking apart though.
Gods0n1 1 year ago
@Gods0n1 Again, all this information is available to you online. "Mudslides happen when mountains are around"? The earth is older than it's life-forms, ergo mountains have been around longer as well. Tar pits do apply, they've found plenty of extinct species in tar pits. Again, all this information is free and available for you to find. I'm not going to be able to teach you 3rd grade geology forever you know!
imrepohl 1 year ago
The initial design and construction of the temple took place in the first half of the 12th century, during the reign of Suryavarman II (ruled 1113 – c. 1150). 860 YEARS AGO.
autopsi 1 year ago
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I've written a detailed rebuttal of the stegosaur carving claim, and recently posted it at my Paluxy website. Since I cannot leave URLs here, please Google "Paluxy Kuban" and when the website comes up, you'll see a link to the article at the end of the introduction, as well as another near the bottom of the article menu. Thanks, Glen
nabuk3 1 year ago
I've writen a detailed rebuttal of the stegosaur carving claim, and recently posted it at my Paluxy website. Since I cannot leave URLs here, please Google "Paluxy Kuban" and when the website comes up, you'll see a link to the article at the end of the introduction, as well as another near the bottom of the article menu. Thanks, Glen
nabuk3 1 year ago
Simply will not accept it.. typical atheit response..pathetic
LordEli 1 year ago
@LordEli Typical non-atheist response.
declanp1 1 year ago
@declanp1 Atheism is ignorance. look it up in the dictionary. The Stego is there son. IT IS THERE! THATS NOT A BUSH BEHIND IT! THATS NOT SOME OTHER ODD BALL MISINTERPRITED ANAIMAL! IT IS THERE A FUCKIGN STEGO! DEAL WITH IT!
LordEli 1 year ago
@LordEli Haha!!! Ok. You have no idea what atheism is.
declanp1 1 year ago
@declanp1 Actually you need to look it up in the dictionary. Son it's means IGNORANCE! Lacking a belief in God or other things they can not see, touch or feel. equals IGNORANCE! There are plenty of things that you can NOT! See touch nor feel! nor even prove they exist. INCLUDING THE BULLSHIT IN MOST OF THE SCIENCE TEXT Books. But they take that as gospel. Hence furthermore. uh Atheist=Ignorance
LordEli 1 year ago
@LordEli hi there. Your discussions on this video amuse me. First of all, I know it's hard and all, but please try to use grammar. If you actually know what that is, and no before you say it, it's not an abbreviation of grandmother.
Have you actually looked up the definition of atheism in a dictionary? And by the way, if you can actually summon up the two brain cells you possess to reply to this I've got a dare for you. I dare you not to write a single word in capital letters.
imrepohl 1 year ago
@imrepohl YOU KNOW WHAT IS IGNORANT ABOUT YOU? YOUR OBVIOUS ATTEMPT TO TRY AND PISS ME OFF! YOU FAIL RETARD AND THE CAPS ARE SIMPLY THERE TO SLAP YOU IN THE FACE YOU FUCKING IGNORANT LITTLE COCK SUCKING COCK ROACH! Asian Rhino.. fuck no son! It's a DINO! Obviously you Atheist RETARDS! REFUSE TO EVEN ACCEPT EVIDENCE WHEN ITS RIGHT IN FRONT OF YA! CLOSED MINDED FUCKTARDS! You ARE ALL FUCKING RETARD ESPECIALLY YOU IMREPOHL!!! Suck my dick retard! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
LordEli 1 year ago
@LordEli naaaaw bless you! I hope that you're actually a normal person who has decided to create a youtube profile of a stereotypically idiotic Creationist to be hilariously ironic.
Please accept my apologies, but I'm going to have to decline your request for me to suck your dick as I'm straight, but I think it's very brave of you to ask a complete stranger who's sexual preference you didn't know. You might have more luck on a gay dating website. Hope that points you in the right direction :)
imrepohl 1 year ago
@imrepohl Oh stop pretending everyone knows you Atheist are closet queers. And thats the point we all know you moronic Atheist's really do Believe in God. it's only a fact that you are trying to rebel and refuse to admit you are being Ignorant whilst Dissing the Lord.After all Dawkin's is an ill read fruad who knows nothing of Christianity and religion so much as he tries to claim he's never even read up on teh subjects, and hitchen's is a fucking Journalist.. wow those to are bright right?
LordEli 1 year ago
@LordEli LOL now you're just being silly. You can't "diss" something that you don't hold a belief in, it would be like me "dissing" Santa Claus, what would be the point?
Bless you. Go and have a lie down, that last message must have really given your brain a work out.
You do quite a lot of judging of people for someone who states to be a Christian.
imrepohl 1 year ago
@imrepohl Ditchkin's are their names.. Both ignorant on the subject they are slandering. and as for Darwin!!!! He had also doubted and turned away from the evolution theory for NO REAL LIVING! Proof or examples of evolution. the founder and creator of that HA HA Laughable ignorant theory which has ever so been exploded some years ago. Evolution=No Body of evidence. READ IT AGAIN! NO BODY OF EVIDENCE! Theoy and wishful thinking Only is evolution. God however. has proof all around us he exists
LordEli 1 year ago
@LordEli You really don't understand how the scientific method works do you? Never mind, just go to bible class and leave the smart people to progressing the human race. The majority of Christians are perfectly happy to concede that evolution is a fact. They just say that God began the process of evolution. That's the line that the major Christian sects stick to.
imrepohl 1 year ago
@imrepohl I understand completely how you ignorant so called scientiffic minds are. I wonder what validates your claims as a scientific mind. What are ya son fresh out of grade school taking a few college courses and you think that makes you a scientific mind? You and your comment is a fucking joke. The smart people have progressed this world for thousands of years now the Religious people. Thank you we've been doing just fine. Atheists go to hell where ya belong
LordEli 1 year ago
@LordEli haha wow, dense much? I didn't say you didn't understand the scientific MIND, but the scientific METHOD. See? They're two different words, with two different meanings. Just goes to show that you really don't understand what I was talking about. But you didn't want to talk about the topic I brought up by the looks of things, so I'll ask again. Why couldn't god have just started the evolutionary process?
imrepohl 1 year ago
@LordEli Oh by the way, while I'm out of "grade school" I have not attended university. But that doesn't stop me from being interested in science, and it doesn't stop me from understanding it. You seem to not want to understand it, and I think I know why. You're afraid of the fact that the universe wasn't made with us in mind.
imrepohl 1 year ago
@LordEli No answer? Ah well, never mind. Please do me a favour though, don't breed.
imrepohl 1 year ago
@imrepohl You should take should be doing yourself that favor ya retard. cause only your moronic bunch is the doom of this world. My Children will pave the way for the future. More Godly people. your however will bwe the condemnation of the world
LordEli 1 year ago
@LordEli "You should take should be doing yourself that favor ya retard."
Seriously? I mean, seriously? YOU'RE calling me a retard? Were you so proud of the fact that you managed to spell "should" properly that you thought you'd put it in a sentence twice?
You STILL haven't answered my question, why couldn't God have simply started the evolutionary process? Please try and answer the question instead of calling me a retard. It really doesn't do your case any favours.
imrepohl 1 year ago
@LordEli You have no clue, son! YOU are the ignorant and arrogant one. Ignorance has NOTHING to do with your belief or lack thereof in a god. Ignorance is the lack of knowledge, learning, information, etc. I have studied every religion (I highly doubt you have), and I came to my own conclusion rather than buying in to all the bullshit that was jammed down my throat since birth. It's called thinking for yourself. Try it sometime.
declanp1 1 year ago
@LordEli Atheism is common sense, son.
declanp1 1 year ago
@LordEli By the way,
Atheism:
1. the doctrine or belief that there is no god.
2. disbelief in the existence of a supreme being or beings.
Don't see ignorance anywhere in there. What's wrong with giving everyone the right to believe what they wish to believe? I don't begrudge your inanae beliefs. This is a free country, is it not?
declanp1 1 year ago
@declanp1 I see alot of ignorance in there son. because they are NO MORE INTELLIGENT! Than anyone else whom believes differently on this earth. more so that Atheists are indeed LESS! Intelligent than those whom believe nay KNOW! That there IS God!
LordEli 1 year ago
@LordEli Wow! U is smrt!
It doesn't exactly take a lot of knowledge to simply say "God dun it". It seems to me that Atheists are possibly the most sophisticated and intelligent people on this planet. Stephen Hawking is widely acclaimed to be the smartest man on Earth, yet he's an Athiest. Hmm...
Science and logic are against the existence of any god whatsoever. To KNOW something means to regard it as true beyond a doubt. Can you do that? I think not.
LucasI3434 1 year ago
@LucasI3434 You know whats sad? cause you actually believe the bullshit you just spewed out. Atheist's are no more intelligent than any other person on this earth. and from the enlightened spiritual peoples veiw. atheist are no better off than the common retard what drowls and rubs shit in his hair, yes thats what an atheist is. sophisticated? HA! Very laughable comment. Stephen Hawkin is hardly the most intelligent person on this planet. and from the looks of his humped over crippled up ass
LordEli 1 year ago
@LucasI3434 it's not a wonder why he's got God hating issue's Most intelligent cripples don't cry and complain and hate on God for how they were made. they actually praise God for peace he's brought them and the strength he's giving them to live life in the misery they in. Hawkins is a moron just like you hmm!
LordEli 1 year ago
@LucasI3434 and by the way to answer your question son. yeah I DO KNOW! God exists beyond all DOUBT! I can and do that fool! Not you or anything nonsense a retard so called science major can do to disprove or shake me from my KNOWLEDGE! of God's existence! I've seen proof and witnessed it first hand. Your hero's only haven't because they followed the wrong books and way of thinking. God doesn't force anything on a person, And Satan has no desire to show himself and remove all doubt.
LordEli 1 year ago
@LordEli Wow. I must admit i'm surprised at your own ignorant and childish refutations to my comment. But overall, i've heard 2 arguments here:
1.) Atheists are retards: i'm actually being calm in this situation and YOU are the one making these kinds of comparisons.
2.)Stephen Hawking is just a moronic cripple: i'd like to see YOU rival his intelligence, but i see how that'd be hard seeing as how you have the mental capabilitites of a mentally handicapped goldfish.
LucasI3434 1 year ago
@LordEli There is much doubt as to the existence of God. The Bible for instance demonstrates this easily recogizable fact. The bible presents numerous contradictions, historical falacies, and an overall bastardization of logic. Evolution and radiometric dating, which has dated the Earth as 4.8 billion years old has disproven the story of Adam and Eve and Creation as well as a 6000 year old earth, therefore the Bible is not infallible, therefore it's not God's word, therefore there is no God
LucasI3434 1 year ago
@LucasI3434 No it certainly does not. Only moron such as you would make such a statment. you misunderstand what you've read in the bible because you are a fool. And fools are blind folded from the truth. as it was written as it indeed is. don't even dare say such ignorant nonsense again. when everything in the Revlation is unfolding today evidence all around you son! And as evidence that the past written in the bible did in FACT happened! don't say ignorant shit your ass has no clue about
LordEli 1 year ago
@LordEli I don't see YOU giving any evidence. I don't see MYSELF cursing like a fool. If the Bible is the truth, then why has the story of Noah's ark been disproven so easily? Why do Acts 1:18 and Matthew 27:5 contradict themselves in representing the death of Judas? If I'm the ignorant fool, then why are you the one spewing hate speech and cursing?
And by the way, I'm not your SON, and I beg of you, please, do NOT have children.
LucasI3434 1 year ago
@LucasI3434 You are making yourself look like a fool, by pretending You are someone with class and BYW I have many Son's.. and they are by far more promising than you will ever be.
LordEli 1 year ago
@LordEli You're one to talk about "class". You've given no evidence, no proof, no facts, just complete and utter ignorance to science and common sense. You're comments are completely devoid of intelligence just insults and illogicalities. Personally i could care less whether your sons are "promising", because i'm getting a full ride to the college of my choice when i graduate hs based on test scores, grades, etc. and i will be striving for multiple PhD's in various fields of study.
LucasI3434 1 year ago
@LucasI3434 You DON'T SEEM TO GET IT YOU FUCKIGN RETARD! IT IS NOT MY FUCKING JOB TO GIV YOU EVIDENCE, PROOF ETC. I have indeed given youf acts. You go fuckign research dickweed you will find your lack of faith waning once, You'd researched the very subject you hate on that you obviously know NOTHING ABOUT!
LordEli 1 year ago
@LordEli You're the one making the extraordinary claims in the first place. Where's the extraordinary evidence to support them? That's all i ask of you. I've done more research on this subject than you have obviously, which is why i lost "faith" in any sort of god. Judging by how this argument has resorted with me trying to reason with you, and YOU cursing me out, i'd say you're the one that knows nothing about the subject at hand.
LucasI3434 1 year ago
@LucasI3434 Well son that is because my experiences are truth and proof, and I simply do not tell lies. my claims are based on facts and experience. If you want proof you gotta find it. because I am not going to go do the hard work it'd take so you can see the truth as well. thats your job
LordEli 1 year ago
@LordEli Again, don't call me son.
I've done the research, i've seen the facts, i've read the evidence. It's not my job to provide the evidence seeing as how YOU were the one making outlandish claims in the first place. Where's your support besides some "personal experiences" which lend ZERO credibility to your claims? I, unlike yourself, research a topic before i criticize it so i don't look like an idiot when arguing it. You've given nothing towards this argument except insults.
LucasI3434 1 year ago
@LucasI3434 Obviously SON! You did not reseatch these matters. because! if you have researched more on God and spirtualky, demons angels etc. You'd found out just as I have that they indeed and in FACT! Exist! It's called delve deep into Occultism son. And by thinking you can read a book to then decide with your own limited mind that something does not exist because others told you they ddin't You proven yourself a complete and utter fool. a serious MORON! Sorry SON you are a retard!
LordEli 1 year ago
@LordEli I've researched various subjects that disprove the existance of any god. Astrophysics, biology, molecular biology, solar physics, evolution, abiogenesis, COMMON SENSE etc. For the third time, YOU were the one making the claims in the first place. Where's your support?
LucasI3434 1 year ago
@LordEli So what's so different between reading The Origin of Species and deciding it's fact and reading the BIBLE and deciding it's fact? They're both books, so what's the difference?
Oh wait, the bible has little to no evidence behind it! That's my problem. Science explains far more than religion EVER has, because simply saying that "god did it" isn't enough of an answer for the intellectuals of the world. They strive to find more plausible answers for everything. So far, they're succeeding.
LucasI3434 1 year ago
@LordEli If you think that Atheists are the morons and ignoramus' of the human race, i refer you to this video
watch?v=mbef07aQtB8
Before you just pass this off as BS, at least check the sources of information in the description. It provides verifiable evidence against your claims that Atheists are "retards".
LucasI3434 1 year ago
@LucasI3434 No son no website you can pop up there can swerve me from the knowledge of truth I posess Atheists ARE morons. And don't you doubt that
LordEli 1 year ago
@LordEli Thanks for proving my point to everyone on here. You simply passed it off as BS without even considering the information; known FACTS about society, verifiable evidence against you claims.
So YOU know more than 70% of the scientific community? YOU know more than the professionals that conducted the studies? YOU know more than the majority of Nobel Prize winners? I'd love to see you submit what you think to some sort of peer reviewed journal to see what reception you'd get.
LucasI3434 1 year ago
@LordEli Still no reply to my question, how depressingly predictable. I'll try again, why couldn't God have simply begun the evolutionary process? Please think about this and get back to me.
imrepohl 1 year ago
@LordEli "You DON'T SEEM TO GET IT YOU FUCKIGN RETARD! IT IS NOT MY FUCKING JOB TO GIV YOU EVIDENCE, PROOF ETC.". Fantastic, first class. See, the problem is that you are indeed the one that needs to bring forth evidence to support your belief (specifically in the Christian god). There have been literally thousands of different religions around the world, so what makes you so sure that you have faith in the right deity? What "evidence" do you have to support your faith?
imrepohl 1 year ago
@imrepohl FUNNY THING IS SON!! YOU ARE THE FUCKING RETARD! Because you don't realize it's NEVER the believers Job to convince you or give you evidence of their beliefs, Evidence and proof is found by He whom searches for it,. Since your retarded ass Isn't searching for the answers and Haven't in the past. Your lack of evidence is your own failing not mine or anyone elses. You want proof you find it. I've already seen the truth. One day you will find yours RETARD!
LordEli 1 year ago
@LordEli And you call yourself a Christian? According to the gospel of Matthew, it is the believers job to proselytise "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world.". You still haven't answered my question, why couldn't God have begun the evolutionary process?
imrepohl 1 year ago
@imrepohl No I call myself your Lord and Master, And you BOY! Need to learn your place. God is above all, God is above and beyond your ignorant failed attempt to comprehend anything. You are the type that like to critisize about things You are to ignorant to understand. You are typical of an internet atheist. You take the time to look up some bible to text to throw towards someone whom believe to think it makes you look cute or intelligent. Only makes you look more pathetic. You been schooled!!
LordEli 1 year ago
@LordEli LOL still no answer to my question then. I'll try again. Why couldn't God have begun the evolutionary process?
I take no pleasure in schooling creationist tools like yourself on what your own holy text actually says, but honestly it sounds like you have never even bothered to read the bible.
imrepohl 1 year ago
@LordEli STILL no answer. LOL. Understand (if you can) that I don't really expect one, but like pointing out to you that you don't have an answer to my question. I'll ask again, why couldn't God have simply started the evolutionary process?
imrepohl 1 year ago
@imrepohl You obviously are ignorant. I didn't answer you before because I simply had to much responses to take care of. Don't pressume to think you can stump me bitch boy. Now IF! and I say IF God created Mankind and the worlds speices through evolution then it would clearly of stated so in thye Bible and True history Book! But since it says no such thing and Evolution is just a Hairbrained THEORY Which has been disproven and discredited so far back as the 80's I think it time to let it go
LordEli 1 year ago
@LordEli LOL, ah yes of course, you were just too darn busy to reply. You make the assumption that the bible is the word of God, how do you know that this is true? Remember saying "because the bible says that it's the word of God, that makes it the word of God", isn't an argument.
You say that the bible does not mention evolution so therefore it's false, the bible doesn't mention gravity either, do you have the same beef with the theory of gravity?
imrepohl 1 year ago
@imrepohl So as proven Since you know You retard evolutions fail to realize and admit that Your "THEORY" this ignorance called evolution has infact been DEMOLISHED Already and proven FALSE! It's time you accept it. Evolution is a Jokeas are you LOL! It's called chain links . links in the chain..l gone missing. nonexistent! Never proven to have been a factual creature no living or dead evidence no fossil evidence. Therefore NO EVOLUTION. most importantly no living specimens today hence FAKE!
LordEli 1 year ago
@LordEli
1. look up the scientific definition of the word "Theory" and then look up the scientific definition of the word "Hypothesis" which is basically what you think the word theory means in scientific terms.
2. If evolution has been "demolished", why do the majority of Christians accept it as a scientific fact?
imrepohl 1 year ago
@imrepohl Do I need to continue to drill this into your retarded head? No living animals today evolving still as they were for last few thousand years or even a million. hence evoltuon hasn't a leg to stand on not even a singlular SOLITARY CELL!
LordEli 1 year ago
@LordEli Aristotle said that it is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. Keeping that quote in mind I presume as you have a very different view on evolution to most people, religious or not, you must have studied evolution to some degree. After all, in order to disagree with a statement, you have to know what the statement is saying! So please tell me, in your own words (we can all check wikipedia) what the theory of evolution is.
imrepohl 1 year ago
@imrepohl Ok well I'll play your game. Now according to Darwin's silyl theory, Mankind was supposed to evolved from apes like a chain link species innerlocking with each other. every other anaimal follow a same simular path in their own. This theory was exploded. Now your hero this moron called Richard Dawkins is now saying Man anjd apes evolved seperately away from same family from different anmila hm sounds like someones grasping at straws right?
LordEli 1 year ago
@LordEli So in continuing with this saying that Darwin was wrong and things happened different. leads to the same Fucking question. Where are the fucking "Missing" chain link of animals inbetween the evolution? See what I am saying? Evolution has been EXPLODED DISPROVEN! LACK OF EVIDENCE! now you moron think Dawkins is some kind of scientific God. yes you do,. but he is jsut another moron, whom is A Satanic anti Christian anti true histpry. His idea's are flimsy and stupid.
LordEli 1 year ago
@LordEli Um, I've never even mentioned Richard Dawkins. Stop trying to skip around the issue and just give me, in your own words, the definition of the theory of evolution.
imrepohl 1 year ago
@LordEli And there we have it. You couldn't have proven my point any better. "Mankind was supposed to evolved from apes like a chain link species innerlocking with each other. every other anaimal follow a same simular path in their own."
If THAT'S your understanding of the theory of evolution then how can you expect to convince people that your position is the right one? You couldn't even give me a definition of the theory of evolution.
imrepohl 1 year ago
@imrepohl Now that we look at the facts of still being in the smae place There are NO interlocking species NO Proof! And as Darwin was concerned with. there is No species in the process of evolving today which at that point in his time he stated! NO OBSERVABLE PROOF No observable evidence living today or then of one animal chaning into another! It simply does not stand nor work. Evolution "THEORY" Exploded and destroyed.
LordEli 1 year ago
@LordEli "there is No species in the process of evolving today which at that point in his time he stated! NO OBSERVABLE PROOF No observable evidence living today or then of one animal chaning into another!"
Case in point, THIS is your understanding of the theory of evolution?! Surely you've studied the evidence for evolution? Otherwise how can you disagree with something you don't know about?
imrepohl 1 year ago
@imrepohl The CASE in POINT! is Evolution is a FUCKING FRAUD! A JOKE! That process which DOES NOT HAPPEN! It is nonexistent. Obviously I know about it than you do! I've pointed out the founder of that ignorant theory, on his very OWN doubts and refuting of it. And retarded rebelous children like you wanna keep swinging the nuts. in the 70's and 90's it was Satanism. 90's to early 0's it was Wicca and paganism. now its Atheism's turn. point is' its just a fad trend. that will fade soon
LordEli 1 year ago
@imrepohl And the funny part about it is, those from the 80's and 90's you know the Satanist's and wicca's and Pagan's They say their prayers to their Demon's and False god's and their spells which they cast on people. and in each case they find even More a reason to believe what they believe! So in their minds they are not wrong just an an atheist ignorantly thinks. unlike the useless atheist they are at least seeing and found evidence of the spirit. so you pray to Richard Dawkins.. AH HA AH HA
LordEli 1 year ago
@LordEli Thank you for proving me right, you can't even supply me with your definition of the theory of evolution. You just went on another tangent about nothing to do with what we were talking about. Paganism? Satanism? You're bringing up these subjects instead of answering a question that any primary school student could tell me, and you haven't answered my question about why the majority of Christians accept evolution as a scientific fact. You just keep shoving your head deeper into the sand.
imrepohl 1 year ago
@imrepohl Oh for crying out loud, Youa re such a fucking ignorant moron we already know WHAT the THEORY of evolution is you fucking moron. I do not fucking need to supply you retard ass the definition of evolution. YOU, ME THESE FUCKING READERS ALREADY Fucking know what the definition is. Don't play me for a fucking school boy learner you fucking imbecilic immature jack ass. Isn't anyone proving your sorry ass right about anything. You just keep Deluding yourself bitch you fail!
LordEli 1 year ago
@LordEli And yet again you prove me right! Still no definition of the theory of evolution, just insults and you shoving your head deeper and deeper into the sand. If you know what the definition of the theory of evolution is, tell us! Prove to me that you're not just another creationist tool who disagrees with a scientific theory without looking at what it actually says.
imrepohl 1 year ago
@imrepohl No son, what it is is now your just being a condescending peice of shit prick whom knows he's been out classed. I am through wasting time on an Ignorant little spec of shit like you. Have a nice day retard. YOU have proven ME RIGHT!
LordEli 1 year ago
@LordEli LOL still no definition, just insults and empty statements. The vast majority of Christians world-wide accept evolution, you've decided to try and disprove something you haven't even bothered to study. It's pathetically obvious.
imrepohl 1 year ago
@LordEli Still no response, you've been shown up for what you are, an ignorant moron. Look everyone! I managed to shut up a creationist!
imrepohl 1 year ago
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LordEli 1 year ago
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LordEli 1 year ago
@imrepohl So responding to your Retardation, And showing what a moron you are for repeatedly showing everyone how weak and pathetic your argument and attempt was. Who is the moron? certainly not I, but you on the other hand.
LordEli 1 year ago
@imrepohl Now Evolution, in short basically means to ascend from a more suitable organism to adapt to situations better than the previous life form/ organism transcending a lesser state. .. No animal has changed from 1 to another simply does not happen. So evolution in your idea DOES NOT EXIST! We are not doing so NOW! We have never observed it happening. Have no species in the process of nor fossil of any animal changing into another
LordEli 1 year ago
@LordEli LOL, saying things like "No animal has changed from 1 to another simply does not happen" not only makes no sense as a sentence, but shows your complete lack of understanding about the subject that you disagree with! Again, how can you disagree with a statement that you know nothing about?
Also, why did you remove your previous comments? And you still haven't answered my other question, why do the majority of Christians accept the theory of evolution?
imrepohl 1 year ago
@imrepohl There is not a single FOSSIL AT ALL! Of any species or the species inbetween 1 from another! Nothing Observable NOW! nor then or will ever will be found. cause it simply is a fiction of Darwin and Yours and many like you imagination. Yes It IS Your religion! Darwin on the otherhand.. repented at the end and begged God for forgiveness as.. Anton Lavey did indeed do! Now SUCK MY DICK! Don't pester me with your ignorance ever again! You have been OBLITERATED!
LordEli 1 year ago
@LordEli haha fantastic, still going off topic. Even if Darwin was a death-bed conversion (which he wasn't) that wouldn't invalidate his theory, the majority of Christians accept evolution.
"There is not a single FOSSIL AT ALL!" Seriously?
Even if evolution was a religion (which it isn't) why would saying that it was be any form of validation for your claims over evolution?
imrepohl 1 year ago
@imrepohl AHEM NO MORON! The MAJORITY! Of Christianity does NOT Accept evolution, nor does anyone else. that's only ridiculous biologic theories thats unproven and has been dismantled go away little moronic male child. As which everyone has witness you have been OBLITERATED. You little pathetic rotten little fucking troll. This is your last response from me because I have proven youa re a jackass answered your ignorant question and you still wanna run in circles and pretend otherwise. FUCK YOU
LordEli 1 year ago
@LordEli The catholic church, which is the largest Christian sect with over 1 billion members, accepts evolution and their stance is called Theistic Evolution. The majority of Presbyterians take the same stance. You are in the minority on this one. You just got schooled. Again.
"this is your last response from me". Again, showing yourself to be the moron that you are. You mean to say "This is my last response to you". Creationist IDiot.
imrepohl 1 year ago
whats interesting is people depict dinosaurs giving live birth on the ica burial stones. this might be plausible considering we do have a mammal today that lays eggs ( platypus ). but this is all speculation of course.
Gods0n1 1 year ago
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generosos87 1 year ago
@Gods0n1 not to mention, if you read job 40:21, it says, He lieth under the lotus-trees, in the covert of the reed, and fens. this is from the jewish tanakh. none of the massive, herbivorous dinosaurs with "tails like a cedar", could rest under a tree like the way its being decribed. oh and the ica stones have been shown countless times to be a hoax, as well as the acambaro stones.
generosos87 1 year ago
@generosos87 the only animals that we can catagorize it with would be a modern elephant or hippo. because it describes it as an animal that goes in the water. but it also describes it with bones like bronze tubes, and a powerful stomach. and whats interesting is it says can anyone capture it by the eyes, or peirce its nose? that would have to imply it would be either out of reach, or too big to fathom. so lets not be intellectually dishonest
Gods0n1 1 year ago
@Gods0n1 i doubt that, especially since none of the descriptions you have just made are mentioned. or they could be, not entirely sure. you have a reference?
generosos87 1 year ago