I've still got mine, though it now sits in my parents house. My father boots it up once a year, and it still runs - not well by todays standards, but it runs. It's all original, except a 512k memory upgrade card. I remember installing the memory expansion was quite a bit of work, as we had to place each memory module on to the expansion card. Luckily electronics weren't quite as fragile back then as they are today.
Ours has the 10MB HDD. I remember a class mate had one with just two 5 1/4".
@WindowsLover6767 Why not? Back in 2000-2001 my elementary school had computers from the early 1990's running Windows 3.1. A few ran Windows 95 and 98.
Did you ever find your copy of Menu Works? I woulld love to have that to run my 5150. Mine is an all original 5150 with 640 K RAM, Parallel/Serial card, CGA with 5153 monitor and the original keyboard. I bought my entire system about 6 month ago for only $200.00 including shipping. Wonderful machine!
very awesome. i just got two 5150s, but neither work. :( i'm going to get at least one working though. i've got several other 8088s though, including a couple laptops. my datavue spark is pretty awesome. i might make a video of that actually. i also have the best 8088 machine on the planet: -NEC V20 @ 10 MHz (ok, not 8088!) -Intel 8087 FPU -dual 1.44 MB floppies -ComputerEyes/RT video capture(!) -4 GB IDE HDD -Diamond Speedstar ET4000 -Sound Blaster Pro 2.0 its crazy awesome :D
you should consider getting a VGA card to run it with a modern monitor :) also this would allow to run Win 2.03 in color :) (vga, of course, is backward compatible with EGA modes)
I've seen windows 1.0 and windows 3.1 and later ones, but not windows 2, that was interesting. Are 8086 and 8088 processors 8-bit or 16-bit? I've always been curious about that.
I had a friend use this same IBM case to hold his Amiga SCSI Hard drives. And he used it as an external case this was back in the late 80's before portable external hard drives were the thing.
Windows was technically a DOS application up to Windows 98. The last version of Windows that did not require DOS to be installed onto the machine before Windows was installed was Windows 3.1; Windows 95, 98, and ME actually installed their own versions of DOS (DOS 7 and 8).
You seem to have fixed the colour issues with that monitor, if I remember correctly from your Tandy 1000 HX all the text on the screen was purple, and some colours were missing.
Wow, that old graphics card also has a printer port in it? I've never heard of that before, that said, I do believe some earlier sound cards also had SCSI ports on them for some early CD-ROM drives. Will that computer run Windows 3.11?
Yes, in the old days, there were many cards that served more than one purpose; expansion bus real estate was hard to come by, so by combining many devices into one card, you could add more cards. Remember, in those days, motherboards had no devices on-board.
FYI: If you have enough free slots, you can actually have both the MDA and CGA installed at the same time, with both monitors hooked up. The DIP switches on the motherboard determine which one is the primary display, and you can switch between them in DOS by typing MODE MONO or MODE CO80 (or CO40).
Also, your PC would've shipped with at least DOS 1.1, which was the first to support double-sided (320K, later 360K) floppy drives.
That's the thing... I thought the PC shipped with single-sided drives... yeah, I have no free slots left! This is a five-slot board, and all are occupied. I heard certain apps like CAD can take advantage of dual displays if both cards are installed.
Correct. Only an EGA card supports both MDA and CGA monitors (and enhances their capabilities, such as adding hi-res monochrome graphics for MDA monitors or providing 16 colors in all graphics modes for CGA monitors).
Regular CGA is only monochrome in 640x200 graphics mode because it doesn't have enough video RAM to do any more. The IBM PCjr and Tandy 1000 series got around this and provided more colors by borrowing main system RAM for graphics, a concept still used today by low-end PCs.
Will it run doom or wolf3d?
tehstrongest1337 2 weeks ago
@tehstrongest1337 no
agustinmotta111 1 day ago
10Mb was like 3Tb back then.
tehstrongest1337 2 weeks ago
I've still got mine, though it now sits in my parents house. My father boots it up once a year, and it still runs - not well by todays standards, but it runs. It's all original, except a 512k memory upgrade card. I remember installing the memory expansion was quite a bit of work, as we had to place each memory module on to the expansion card. Luckily electronics weren't quite as fragile back then as they are today.
Ours has the 10MB HDD. I remember a class mate had one with just two 5 1/4".
BoardkilL 4 weeks ago
I love the sounds that those old HDDs make. Did that PC come with a hard drive?
Tr3vor42532 1 month ago
This windows interface looks better to me than the latest windows. I am so sick to stare day in and day out at the same stupid windows style...
dvamateur 1 month ago
@themaritimeman Well, I'm in the fourth grade and there is a windows 2000 pc always staring at me.
WindowsLover6767 1 month ago
1:58 That is one big ass ISA video card... :D
TobiasTheebe 2 months ago
HDD? 50 MB?
slicceNdicce 5 months ago
@slicceNdicce Actually, I believe it was a 10MB drive, why?
bbishoppcm 5 months ago
@bbishoppcm Does the 1986 5160 have a Hard Drive or what Hard Drive?
MrComputerfan 3 months ago
@slicceNdicce Actually, I believe it was a 10MB drive, why?
bbishoppcm 5 months ago
@slicceNdicce No, 10MB
bbishoppcm 3 months ago
@bbishoppcm
Did you try installing Win 3.1?
And also,what is the best card for that thing?
From 90s? How much graphic RAM would it have.
baneskrbic 1 month ago
@bbishoppcm
Best GRAPHIC card theoretically possible to put.
baneskrbic 1 month ago
@1981jilly 1990?? A 1982 computer??? I doubt it. :|
WindowsLover6767 5 months ago
@WindowsLover6767 Why not? Back in 2000-2001 my elementary school had computers from the early 1990's running Windows 3.1. A few ran Windows 95 and 98.
themaritimeman 4 months ago
Did you ever find your copy of Menu Works? I woulld love to have that to run my 5150. Mine is an all original 5150 with 640 K RAM, Parallel/Serial card, CGA with 5153 monitor and the original keyboard. I bought my entire system about 6 month ago for only $200.00 including shipping. Wonderful machine!
bettablue89115 6 months ago
6:28
about Paint, xD
cergew 7 months ago
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cergew 7 months ago
hehe. I have the same DOS for DUMMIES book you have in between the two computers.
16mmDJ 11 months ago
@bbishoppcm I want Menu Works 2.10
KartSeven1 1 year ago
kingcrimson234 1 year ago
you should consider getting a VGA card to run it with a modern monitor :) also this would allow to run Win 2.03 in color :) (vga, of course, is backward compatible with EGA modes)
neutrino78x 1 year ago
10MB hdd :P
MichaelYoshiFan 1 year ago
can u please send me the menu works 2.10 files 1?
geekforlifevandc 1 year ago
@geekforlifevandc sorry, I can't seem to find it.
bbishoppcm 1 year ago
@bbishoppcm lol ima try find a copy online thx anyway! lov ur vids
geekforlifevandc 1 year ago
1:53 Longest video card ever!
jason24568 1 year ago
I've seen windows 1.0 and windows 3.1 and later ones, but not windows 2, that was interesting. Are 8086 and 8088 processors 8-bit or 16-bit? I've always been curious about that.
CoolDudeClem 1 year ago
Disregard my last comment on this video, it's an Apple IIE.
Lachlant1984 2 years ago
What's that computer to the right of the subject of this video?
Lachlant1984 2 years ago
I had a friend use this same IBM case to hold his Amiga SCSI Hard drives. And he used it as an external case this was back in the late 80's before portable external hard drives were the thing.
Vortexghost 2 years ago
Interesting video, thanks!
(It's funny, I had no idea what Windows was in 1987...)
msdos622wasfun 2 years ago
I love ur computer vidz =) keep 'em comming =)
Hugs from me,
Kelly
lollan85 2 years ago
Hehe... no prob!
bbishoppcm 2 years ago
Right... 9 pin connector, but with only like three or four pins used.
bbishoppcm 2 years ago
Oh, cool. I just never seen one that new run before. I'm sure you have another computer that supports it.
mattsprinter 2 years ago
Wait, what connection did the monochrome monitor have? A 9, 15, or 24 pin?
mattsprinter 2 years ago
The CGA and monochrome (and EGA) monitors use a 9-pin connector.
bbishoppcm 2 years ago
I understand what the video cards have, I've used them before. I meant the 1990 monochrome monitor you talked about.
mattsprinter 2 years ago
Windows 1.01 was released in 1985, the same year as the NES. Windows 2.03, on the other hand, was released in 1987.
megamanfan3 2 years ago
What windows operating systems are compatible with DOS? I just want to know.
mattsprinter 2 years ago
Windows was technically a DOS application up to Windows 98. The last version of Windows that did not require DOS to be installed onto the machine before Windows was installed was Windows 3.1; Windows 95, 98, and ME actually installed their own versions of DOS (DOS 7 and 8).
bbishoppcm 2 years ago
Oh well, looks like I can't run windows XP on DOS. But I do want to put newer computer parts in another old PC case.
mattsprinter 2 years ago
dos for dummies!
Intellmac 2 years ago
Why isn't windows in color?
mattsprinter 2 years ago
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mattsprinter 2 years ago
thanks for the video man
amanb93 2 years ago
You seem to have fixed the colour issues with that monitor, if I remember correctly from your Tandy 1000 HX all the text on the screen was purple, and some colours were missing.
Lachlant1984 2 years ago
Turns out, the CGA port on the computer has a weak solder joint. Go figure.
bbishoppcm 2 years ago
Did you resolder the weak joint on the port for that computer?
Lachlant1984 2 years ago
Wow, that old graphics card also has a printer port in it? I've never heard of that before, that said, I do believe some earlier sound cards also had SCSI ports on them for some early CD-ROM drives. Will that computer run Windows 3.11?
Lachlant1984 2 years ago
Yes, in the old days, there were many cards that served more than one purpose; expansion bus real estate was hard to come by, so by combining many devices into one card, you could add more cards. Remember, in those days, motherboards had no devices on-board.
bbishoppcm 2 years ago
those ibm's are nice! i want to get one of those IBM 5150's for my own collection!
hellya2011 2 years ago
very col vid man!
longlivemacs 2 years ago
I can't get enough of your computer videos - that's why I subscribed, so keep 'em coming! 5 stars for this video and looking forward to more!
kevin12567 2 years ago
Thanks for the comment! Hey, if people are watching them, I'll make more.
bbishoppcm 2 years ago
FYI: If you have enough free slots, you can actually have both the MDA and CGA installed at the same time, with both monitors hooked up. The DIP switches on the motherboard determine which one is the primary display, and you can switch between them in DOS by typing MODE MONO or MODE CO80 (or CO40).
Also, your PC would've shipped with at least DOS 1.1, which was the first to support double-sided (320K, later 360K) floppy drives.
vwestlife 2 years ago
That's the thing... I thought the PC shipped with single-sided drives... yeah, I have no free slots left! This is a five-slot board, and all are occupied. I heard certain apps like CAD can take advantage of dual displays if both cards are installed.
bbishoppcm 2 years ago
I was thinking that maybe the original drive had been upgraded to a double-sided drive... so did the PC have double-sided as an option?
bbishoppcm 2 years ago
cga and monochrome have different scan rates. i cant remember which way it is but you can blow the monitor if you hook it to the wrong card.
phantom3rdchannel 2 years ago
Correct. Only an EGA card supports both MDA and CGA monitors (and enhances their capabilities, such as adding hi-res monochrome graphics for MDA monitors or providing 16 colors in all graphics modes for CGA monitors).
Regular CGA is only monochrome in 640x200 graphics mode because it doesn't have enough video RAM to do any more. The IBM PCjr and Tandy 1000 series got around this and provided more colors by borrowing main system RAM for graphics, a concept still used today by low-end PCs.
vwestlife 2 years ago
It's amazing to see an old OS work on a computer!
JBlair1982 2 years ago