connally is holding his stetson cowboy hat in his right hand as he turns around to check on kennedy- by his own admission. -according to this right wing hack-yeah I said it!!!- connally is already had his rib cracked, bullett exits, shatters his right wrist , exits and flesh wounds his thigh-all the while he holds his stetson hat in his right hand. oh yeah, did I tell ya about the bullett found on a stretcher at the hospital?-you gonna think it's a magic bullett when ya see it! used cars here
The problem with the shot at 224 theory is that Kennedy is ALREADY REACTING at frame 224. You can see him lowering his arms and clenching his fist at frame 224, which would be too fast for him to react to the shot. He was obviously hit earlier. Connally is still holding onto his hat for a long time after frame 224. He could not possibly hold onto the hat after the bullet passed through his wrist.
@arrowz12 Connally and Kennedy are both reacting to the shot at Z224 but you need to also know that Connally is shot in the BACK at Z325, 0.7 seconds AFTER JFK is shot in the head. To UNDERSTAND what is going on and both statements above to be true, you have to UNDERSTAND the significant finding that is shown in my video THE TWILIGHT ZONE.
Those of you who insist that Connolly was hit by a different bullet need to share with us the evidence you have to support your position. I have some questions: At what specific frame (Zapruder film) was Connolly struck? When he was struck did he receive all his wounds from one bullet? Where did the bullet go that struck JFK in this back and exited his throat? Where specifically was the shot that hit Connolly fired from?
Connally is obviously shot at 224. That body language and facial reactions are from being shot. I don't care what anyone says you can't tell me Connally isn't shot at 223-224. The lapel flaps open in one frame which is 1/19ths of a second, which is too fast to be caused by any arm movement. And I fully believe in a conspiracy.
If Connally was shot at that point, as Dale Meyer contends, he might want to explain why Connally is still holding his hat. Wasn't that same bullet supposed to have hit his wrist? Such outright bullsh*t. The magic bullet was a complete fabrication, and everybody on the Warren Commission knew it.
I sent you a private reply showing that in RATHER'S QUESTION, I show that Connally was shot in the back a split second after JFK was shot in the head.
The proof of that is the only audio recording corresponds directly with that observation, the last two shots were fired BANG-BANG, 0.7 seconds apart.
We now know with odds well over million(s) to one that the shot that killed JFK was fired from the grassy knoll.
The only question left to answer is WHO and WHY, and that is easy now too
No, gives rise to the "MAGIC" bullet theory -- concocted by then lawyer now Republocrat PA Senator Arlen Spector; a bullet that magically appeared on a Parkland Hospital stretcher in virtually pristine condition. WOW..that's just so believable!!
You can't just generally refer to a bullet fragment hitting Connally in the leg and causing the lapel to flap outward without accounting for the path of that fragment. Any fragment hitting Connally in the leg would have to travel there through Connally or leave a trace of where it hit in order to become fragmented. Plus Connally never testifies that he was hit in the leg by a fragment and then 'punched in the back'. Sorry, not plausible until you give better evidence.
Ah, not taking any side here but I'm conspicuously seeing a lack of any explanation for the lapel shooting out in frame 224. There's no doubt from the Zapruder film Kennedy and Connally react at the same time at frame 224. The lapel only helps confirm this. What blew the lapel outward? Direct answer please.
The Single Bullet Myth is a fraud based upon drawings and conjecture, not X-Rays, photos, or the FBI's report. Arlen Specter is exposed and cornered with those facts here...
watch?v=aS3zrdkoCdY
No SBT, no Lone Nut gunman. Ooops! Sorry Sheeple Squad, your fairy tale is just that, and Dale Myers Discovery Channel cartoon is as valid for JFK assn research as Elmer Fudd & Bugs Bunny is valid for rabbit hunting, and Popeye is for the health benefits of spinach.
Cddickless is a lying piece-of-shit disinformation agent, a fascist, a bigot, and a sociopath.
Google "Tom Lowery JFK" and see this degenerate asshole exposed for what he is.
If this gutless 2 bit whore traitor who lives to serve illegitimate authority were alive in the US colonies in the 1700's we'd all still be wearing powdered wigs in court and paying taxes to the King.
@allgoo19 a few years ago I posted and got responses from that bum-he offers nothing- resorts to bottom feeding attacks-very crude person. you see -the guy is very one dimensional- he's bought in to the myths laid out for him so he keeps supporting the next war. he lives in a john wayne world where j edgar hoover did no wrong. people who think on different levels and question official versions of history are anti-american to him- either that or he get paid by some rich texas oilman
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"Who is Gov. Connally?"
The last person on Earth to ask of details about a assassin or which bullet hit him or when he was struck . The bullets came from behind him , now unless you can prove that a man in that went into shock after he was hit and that he had eye's in the back of his head I suggest that his 'interesting storys' be classified as just that .
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Again !
JBC never believed in conspiracy . He said of the movie JFK "I think it's a evil film . It suggests the USG killed JFK , that's not what happened nor could of it of happened"
Journalist Doug Thompson asked Connally if he believed Oswald killed JFK and he replied, "Absolutely not - I do not, for one second, believe the conclusions of the Warren Commission."
Thompson asked why he had not spoken out about this. Connally replied: "Because I love this country and we needed closure at the time. I will never speak out publicly about what I believe."
I'm not sure JBC was right about Oswald, but he certainly DID believe there was a conspiracy.
Yet, if you're quoting him, then, obviously, he IS willing to speak out publicly against the findings of the Warren Commission. Besides, what does it matter what he believes? Is he some kind of expert on the subject? I'll bet he knows LESS about the details of the assassination than the WC investigators. So, his opinion, one way or the other, is of little importance.
I don't think ANYONE knows LESS about the Kennedy Assassination than the WC investigators except perhaps you.
Who is Gov. Connally? Uh, somebody RIDING IN THE VEHICLE AT THE TIME. Somebody with combat experience who saw Kennedy react to the first shot and tried to get a better look and then was shot himself. Somebody who knows a bullet doesn't hang in mid-air for 2 seconds (actually 1.9). How's that for starters?
The Single Bullet Myth is a fraud based upon drawings and conjecture, not X-Rays, photos, or the FBI's report. Arlen Specter is exposed and cornered with those facts here...
watch?v=aS3zrdkoCdY
No SBT, no Lone Nut gunman. Ooops! Sorry Sheeple Squad, your fairy tale is just that, and Dale Myers Discovery Channel cartoon is as valid for JFK assn research as Elmer Fudd & Bugs Bunny is valid for rabbit hunting, and Popeye is for the health benefits of spinach.
Dale Myers is exposed as the lying coward he is here:
watch?v=kSa3gO5h1ak
watch?v=eTZl1pqryBo
watch?v=IkXoAUTVbxE
The truth WILL NOT be censored by complicit sheeple cowards like davidmerling, who won't allow it to be posted on his video threads, yet allows a degenerate sociopaths like cddraftsman and all his sock puppets to spread his lies.
Bon appetite asshole! Insert your humiliated & exposed for the gutless coward you are face here --> :-(
Well, JBC never believed that he was hit by the same bullet. That´s important. Of cource he would never accuse his friend Lyndon of killing JFK. Thats what the movie JFK implicated.
Compare Myers claims to "Connelly describing his wound in JFK murder" on youtube. It´s clear that Connally wasn´t wounded at Z224. He is well until the fatal head shot to JFK. Then he collapsed due to his nearly deadly wounds. After Z224 we can see Connally turned to JFK. He couldn´t do this with a wound in his chest which caused him to collapse because he couldn´t breathe anymore.
You NEVER decide WHEN Connally is struck in the back. Connally said OVER AND OVER "THE FORCE OF THE BULLET BENT ME OVER"
When is Connally bent over? Look at my video Connelly describing his wound in JFK murder. You conclude he fell over because he couldn't breathe anymore, that he just collapased, no, it's simpler than this.
Watch the Z film and compare it to what Connally says.
NOW, read ROY KELLERMAN's Warren Commission testimony.
WHAT EXACTLY DOES Kellerman say about the LAST TWO SHOTS?
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JBC never believed in conspiracy . He said of the movie JFK "I think it's a evil film . It suggests the USG killed JFK , that's not what happened nor could of it of happened"
"he says that when that fell out it was picked up"
He didn't see it so he couldn't possibly know what it was . Something fell on the floor , not the bullet and it's illogical to assume it was a fragment and if it was , the nurse would of brought to someones attention immediately . What happened was that CE-399 had already fallen out of his pants leg on the stretcher and he assumed later , whatever metal object was dropped was the bullet outta his leg , not true .
"JBC notes how easy it was 4 evidence of what really happened 2 disappear"
The real evidence is in the National Archives and it all points towards LHO . Evidence can disappear for benign reasons also . If you had possession of CE-399 for example , it's face value is 20ct. , given the provenance it has as a historic item as world class as the SBT , it would go out at a starting bid of $100,000 .
CE399, the bullet allegedly 'found' on a stretcher in Parkland Hospital, is not the fragment that came out of Connally - he says that when that fell out it was picked up immediately.
This fragment never turned up, and Connally notes how easy it was for evidence of what really happened to disappear.
You can read about it in his autobiography "In History's Shadow".
Tres Spics está en un coche, uno esconde una navaja de muelle y una falsificación tarjeta verde, otro uno que come frijoles y farting por su pantalones de assless, el otro seca su espalda mojada con un sombrero. ¿Quién maneja el coche?
BEYOND THE MAGIC BULLET DID NOT recreate the "shot."
The bullet failed to produce a fragment that hit Connally's left leg. IT is myth (actually a necessary lie) to say it was a bullet and NOT a bullet fragment as Dr. Shaw said.
Plus, the bullet hit two ribs and was NOTICABLY DEFORMED, unlike CE399. The Australians blame two ribs for that problem:
1 Not penetrating Connally's left leg
2 Bullet noticably deformed
Show is BS, LBJ killed him, Hoover covered it up. Simply OBVIOUS now.
Because it hit two ribs instead of one it didn't have enough velocity to penetrate JBC's left leg .
"Bullet noticably deformed"
As the bullet did more damage (2 ribs v 1 rib) closer to the initiation point (Gun muzzle) it would be expected to look more damaged . Remember the faster the bullet goes when striking a object , the more damage it can be ecpected to recieve . Since no two gunshot wounds are ever the same , this experiment is A+
What?! It woulds have taken VERY little more velocity to penetrate Connally's leg! The recreation of the shot did not hit the mark on JFK precisely, it was not a moving target and Oswalds trajectory can only be (closely) guessed at. You saying it was noticably deformed when it was only slightly more is a disservice, but then again you say LBJ killed JFK (with this "simple, obvious now" comment), so I guess your nuts.
What's on the Sci-Fi channel tonight or are you watching for UFO's?
Dr. who treated Connally said a bullet fragment was in Connally's left leg, a TRIVIAL WOUND.
FBI agent at the autopsy said the bullet wound to JFK's back was traced with Dr's finger, no point of exit, same with a probe, no point of exit.
Unless the Gov't was telling you this, you'd NEVER believe it's true, history will look back on this lie and wonder HOW in the world a country could be hijacked by Hoover and LBJ to believe such silliness.
Yeah, great, big conspiracy, yet they let an FBI agent in the autopsy, that contradicts the autopsy?
You're right, you CAN fool some of the people all of the time, look in the mirror pal!
So what calculations did trhe conspirators use to figure that a bullet at 2000 ft/second was going to barely penetrate Connally's leg, enabling it to fall out, remove that, so they could place another, NO, not in the easier to plant and control LIMO, but randomly on a stretcher?
Here is all you need to know about cddraftsman, (aka: BigPapaShitz, aka: Mag30th, aka: pajasa62, aka: ninnydumbdumb, etc., etc., etc.). In short he is a lying disinformation agent, a delusional sociopath, and a simple gutless internet coward:
Here is all you need to know about cddraftsman, (aka: BigPapaShitz, aka: Mag30th, aka: pajasa62, aka: ninnydumbdumb, etc., etc., etc.). In short he is a lying disinformation agent, a delusional sociopath, and a simple gutless internet coward:
When you want to solve a crime, consider everything, I agree. But Jackie didn't shoot anybody, the shots to Connally and the two to JFK were from different directions than where Jackie was.
Connally said the bullet (to his back) bent him over, it was fired from behind. The shots to JFK, to the back from behind, to the neck, from in front, and the head shot at Z313was from the right front of the limo.
Isn't that clear, I can't see any way Jackie did it.
Or SCG's version of history : LBJ killed JFK in his own state , to inherit the greatest mess the world had ever been in (Vietnam : killed 1000's of his fellow Americans , Cuba , Snivel Rights , The Cold War , Nuclear Proliferation , on & on ) in order to not run for re-election & as a toot to boot : The stress cost him 10 years off his life (He eventyally died of a heart attack)
Really Gator ? I'll think I'll take the USG's story . Will save time not having to memorize all the lies .
Or SCG's version of history : LBJ killed JFK in his own state , to inherit the greatest mess the world had ever been in (Vietnam : killed 1000's of his fellow Americans , Cuba , Snivel Rights , The Cold War , Nuclear Proliferation , on & on ) in order to not run for re-election & as a toot to boot : The stress cost him 10 years off his life (He eventyally died of a heart attack)
Really Gator ? I'll think I'll take the USG's story . Will save time not having to memorize all the lies .
Or SCG's version of history : LBJ killed JFK in his own state , to inherit the greatest mess the world had ever been in (Vietnam : killed 1000's of his fellow Americans , Cuba , Snivel Rights , The Cold War , Nuclear Proliferation , on & on ) in order to not run for re-election & as a toot to boot : The stress cost him 10 years off his life (He eventyally died of a heart attack)
Really Gator ? I'll think I'll take the USG's story . Will save time not having to memorize all the lies .
of Mark Lane." p. xxii : "Lane's RUSH TO JUDGMENT provides a classic example of subjective gimmickry w/ it scholarly cosmetic of 4,500 footnotes containing 100's of substantial errors & repetitions . Quotations w/in the text have been quietly changed in o/ 200 instances from original documented versions , important material has been excised from the evidence in order to highlight the trivial or to mislead ." end quote . That's CTer history in a nutshell ! .
of Mark Lane." p. xxii : "Lane's RUSH TO JUDGMENT provides a classic example of subjective gimmickry w/ it scholarly cosmetic of 4,500 footnotes containing 100's of substantial errors & repetitions . Quotations w/in the text have been quietly changed in o/ 200 instances from original documented versions , important material has been excised from the evidence in order to highlight the trivial or to mislead ." end quote . That's CTer history in a nutshell ! .
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p. xxii : "Lane's RUSH TO JUDGMENT provides a classic example of subjective gimmickry w/ it scholarly cosmetic of 4,500 footnotes containing 100's of substantial errors & repetitions . Quotations w/in the text have been quietly changed in o/ 200 instances from original documented versions , important material has been excised from the evidence in order to highlight the trivial or to mislead ." end quote . That's CTer history in a nutshell ! .
those hypothesis have got to be wrong because the assassin. only happened one way . That's hilarious & shows you who the evil minions are = The conspiracy writers themselves . Take for example Mark Lane who started it off & was the 1st superstar : I quotes from : THE ASSASSINATION OF JFK by Historians Guth & Wrone (1980) Subtitled : A COMPREHENSIVE & LEGAL BIBLIORAPHY (63-79)
On p. viii of preface : "We wish to lift the subject out of the quagmire of often bizarre
those hypothesis have got to be wrong because the assassin. only happened one way . That's hilarious & shows you who the evil minions are = The conspiracy writers themselves . Take for example Mark Lane who started it off & was the 1st superstar : I quotes from : THE ASSASSINATION OF JFK by Historians Guth & Wrone (1980) Subtitled : A COMPREHENSIVE & LEGAL BIBLIORAPHY (63-79)
On p. viii of preface : "We wish to lift the subject out of the quagmire of often bizarre
upon the opposite of the scientific method . Same w/ JFK Hoaxing : No CTer has proposed a 'theory' that is really a 'theory' at all . There 'working hypothesis' that never left that stage & can't even be called 'theory's' because they were rushed to print , collect the retainer fee & before it's debunked , they've already cashed the check . No other way to explain 68 different assassins & helpers that are all nutually exclusive of one another . Meaning ? By the simplist of logic 99.9% of
upon the opposite of the scientific method . Same w/ JFK Hoaxing : No CTer has proposed a 'theory' that is really a 'theory' at all . There 'working hypothesis' that never left that stage & can't even be called 'theory's' because they were rushed to print , collect the retainer fee & before it's debunked , they've already cashed the check . No other way to explain 68 different assassins & helpers that are all nutually exclusive of one another . Meaning ? By the simplist of logic 99.9% of
a incredible lack of thought & originality . Example : It takes disappearing assassins from a standard theme in UFOlogy . Take our word for it , there was evidence of a UFO but the USG came in at the last moment & scooped up all the evidence . Disagree w/ their conslusions because there so silly ... well that equates to you being paid by *Them* & your labeled as part of the plot . This closed circuit thinking doesn't permit other possible explanations for sightings because it's based
a incredible lack of thought & originality . Example : It takes disappearing assassins from a standard theme in UFOlogy . Take our word for it , there was evidence of a UFO but the USG came in at the last moment & scooped up all the evidence . Disagree w/ their conslusions because there so silly ... well that equates to you being paid by *Them* & your labeled as part of the plot . This closed circuit thinking doesn't permit other possible explanations for sightings because it's based
Bunch of people (Most had a background or gravitated from the UFO Hoaxing Business) started JFK Hoaxing and have built it into a multi-million dollar cottage industry based upon repeticious lies and a public's disbelief that a senseless act of violence that stole their hero has no broader meaning . Supply a broader meaning by evil minions of conspiracy is better than a two headed boy at a circus , you don't even have to feed it . It's suffers from
Bunch of people (Most had a background or gravitated from the UFO Hoaxing Business) started JFK Hoaxing and have built it into a multi-million dollar cottage industry based upon repeticious lies and a public's disbelief that a senseless act of violence that stole their hero has no broader meaning . Supply a broader meaning by evil minions of conspiracy is better than a two headed boy at a circus , you don't even have to feed it . It's suffers from
So you explain this whole thing as a bunch of JFK assassination conspiracy types just started lying for the last 40 something years, for no other reason than to lie and keep this lie going, and some of them wrote books to make money, get on TV.
OR
The obvious: LBJ killed JFK and the Gov't is petrified that Joe Six Pack is going to finally realize he's been made a fool for believing the Press and a corrupt gov't that isn't going to come clean.
"Why were the autopsy records which are obviously fraudulent not released?"
Ask the Kennedy Family . RFK had all the records in a lock box @ the White House for years before release to the National Archives . He was in possession of all autopsy material and disposed of his brothers brain so conspiracy numbnuts wouldn't parade it through DP on a pole !
JFK lost approx 10% of his brains that were shot out . The increase of brain size to 1400 or 1500 grms was due to swelling of tissue and intake of fluids used for fixation of brain prior to sectioning . Paul O'Connors has become a noted conspiracy dandy , he's willing to lie his ass off for notoriety sake and can no longer be trusted to tell the truth . At best he was a bit part player , listening to him you'd think he conducted the autopsy all by his lonesome :-) Hehehehe !
Watch Paul O'Connor's testimony regarding the whereabouts of Kennedy's brain. Watch Vincent Bugliosi's surprised reaction when he hears what O'Connor says towards the end of his testimony.
Hahahahaha ! Paul O'Conners > Stewed to the gills ! Hero of dolty conspiracy fables gone wild , in liftons 'Best Evidence' or was that 'Worst Evidence' Doesn't matter , will e-mail you the particulars .
Jackie Kennedy on the whereabouts of Kennedy's brain, published one year after her death at her request..."Dave Powers came running to me, my legs and hands were covered with is brains. I tried to hold the top of his head down, maybe I could keep it. I knew he was dead. Dr Perry wanted me to get out (of the ER). But I said, "It's my husband, his blood, his brains are all over me." That stuff you see flying out of his head at Z313, that ain't chopped liver. It's brain matter.
This is from an interview that Jackie gave to Theodore White one week after the assassination, and published in 1995, one year after her death. check the jfklancer website, pdf/Camelot.pdf
Jackie Kennedy said that the wound was at the top of the head, just above the forehead. I'll go with that. She had the best view of everyone. Or was Jackie part of the "conspiracy" also? I'll believe that the back of the head was also shattered. Go shoot a melon and watch where all the fragments go.
"Of course you do KNOW WITHOUT A DOUBT the Z film has been altered, don't you?"
SAG I wish you would stop spreading this disinformation . At no time was it possible to have this film altered . CTer's established this years ago . To other radical CTer's , the moment LNer's proved by experimentaion that JFK's head could go back & to the left when shot from behind , their agenda changed from Z-film ironclad proof of a shot from the front , to Z-film alteration , very dishonest .
Z film was DEFINITELY altered. There's no other POSSIBLE explanation for the Dr's at Parkland to have seen the massive wound in the back of JFK's head which CLEARLY indicated a shot from the front.
You may think it's credible that many Dr's could make this mistake but I'll NEVER buy it.
Look at this video and THINK, otherwise continue to post silliness supporting the biggest lie in history.
All of the doctors have also said that they didn't really pay close attenion to the characteristics of the head wound, because their most urgent task was to stabilize JFK.
One more interesting point. John Connally didn't realize that he had other wounds than his chest wound until the following day, when he woke up after surgery. Connally himself agreed that one bullet caused all of his wounds. All of his wounds were not caused by a bullet traveling in a nice spiral like a perfectly thrown football. Each wound was caused by a tumbling bullet.
YOU can see blood flowing over Connally's hands @ Z224+?
REALLY?
How come people have been asking why they CAN'T see any blood right after Z224? The simple reason is that blood wasn't there. The same reason that Connally turned around in his seat from Z24 all the way until he is shot in the back. The bullet that hit him in the back did NOT hit him in the leg. Look at what Dr. Shaw said about the left leg wound.
It's not too funny, it's pretty serious, don't you think?
Yep, go watch a very good copy of the Z film. Just after Connally's hat flicks up, you can see him holding his hat. You can see the top of the back of his hand. You can see his white sleeve cuff. Frame 243-246, you can see blood flowing out from under the cuff and over the hand. He's out of the picture by frame 257. I have seen this many times on better resolution screens, like television. You can't see it as well on a computer.
And, the bullet entered Connally's arm 2 inches up from the wrist, shattered the bone, and exited on the palm side of the wrist. Guess what..the entry wound is slightly larger than the exit wound. Dr Shaw originally thought that the bullet entered on the palm side of the wrist, but withdrew his opinion after being presented with the facts. So, even Dr Shaw altered his opinions and is not always so correct.
Lots of interesting story's : Final AARB conclusion : The only thing worse than eye-witness testimony is 30 year old eye-witness testimony . It's totally unreliable ! That's a fact .
The only thing worse than eye-witness testimony is 30 year old eye-witness testimony
You wish it is fact but it's not fact. A gov't with the biggest lie in history painted itself into a corner. LBJ killed JFK and history will show us as the biggest fools in history for buying silliness called the SBT, the Warren Commission and the documentaries that keep coming out trying to convince Americans they got it right.
The last straw will be Bugliosi and HBO with Tom Hanks ruining his legacy w.
Spencer was interviewed by the Assassination Records Review Board (ARRB) in June, 1997. Douglas Horne, who attended the session was later to remark that she developed: "Post mortem photography different from that in the Archives today. (Different type of film and different images.) Her photography seemed to be of the body after reconstruction, but before it was clothed and put in the burial casket."
AARB has all the records & they've been released 4 years now . It's bad enough that u suspect the USG of doing this , but how credible is it 2 think that *THEY* would leave a written record of killing the Chief Executive 4 the amatuer antic's of CTer's just boggles my brain case :-) YOU MUST BE JOKING ?
Why were the autopsy records which are obviously fraudulent not released? Why do the vast majority of the witnesses at Parkland and Bethesda say there was a massive wound in the back of JFK's head?
The simple answer is that once you realize that the evidence was doctored to show a shot to the back of JFK's head, the answer quickly converges to LBJ, no one else could have pulled this off.
They've already given us plenty to prove LBJ/Hoover did it.
"Why were the autopsy records which are obviously fraudulent not released?"
Ask the Kennedy Family . RFK had all the records in a lock box @ the White House for years before release to the National Archives . He was in possession of all autopsy material and disposed of his brothers brain so conspiracy numbnuts wouldn't parade it through DP on a pole !
"Why were the autopsy records which are obviously fraudulent not released?"
Ask the Kennedy Family . RFK had all the records in a lock box @ the White House for years before release to the National Archives . He was in possession of all autopsy material and disposed of his brothers brain so conspiracy numbnuts wouldn't parade it through DP on a pole !
Well, that is all hogwash. Listen to Paul O'Connor's testimony on the autopsy. He testified that when they went to go surgically remove the brain, there was no brain to remove. You can see where the brain went on the Zapruder film. The bullet blew the brain out. As Conner said, there was no brain to remove. And, he said that when they refer to a brain being removed, measured and preserved in formalin, O'Connor said that they must be talking about someone elses brain.
"Posner will go down in History as an absolute fool"
You will go down in flaming defeat ! Per your 'About this video' You don't seem to realise that a shot to JBC's leg could not be fired from anywhere in DP without it going thru his chest 1st . Any of the high buildings being behind him . So what you state is silly & a geometric impossibility .
That's silly and incorrect. First, take a look at CE840. Exactly when did those bullet fragments appear?
Next, take into account the fact that John Connally was a big man. Although we have no proof, his leg was "probably" not straight ahead as the WC wanted to believe, but off to the left. That explains why your geometry argument is incorrect.
We know the bullet fragment that was in Connally's left leg did not come from CE399, so where did it come from? The answer: same bullet w/CE840.
Oh SCGATOR ! I would believe it too if I didn't have a higher learning of life's experiences that tells me thats bunk . Life is not made up of hidden handed assassins and dark conspiracy's but randon chance , personal foible's and happenstances of history . LHO liked JFK but he hated America . Sirhan didn't even know RFK but he stood in the way of his return to Palestine . Those are truisms and the truth .
SCGATOR2001 see's this open and shut case against LHO with one eye looking through a microscope and the other through a telescope . If he were in any other country in the world he would be locked up in a conspiracy coo-coo clinic .
JFK threatened to give his job to Nixon he got that exasperated . Why would LBJ want a job that cost him 10 years off his life ? That's totally silly .
"history will look back on us as being absolute fools"
After literally 1000's of bogus story's by CTer's that postulate a multi-various ending 2 1 event , conspiracy has been discredited by itself w/out the non-existent help by this shadowy gubernment that is so sterling efficient that the INS issued 2 of the 911 terrorist their VISA to stay in the US , but they had been dead for over a year already .
This is the same shadowy government that either got WMD intelligence wrong or else as conspiracy theorists would have you believe lied shameless about. In the same breath they claim 9/11 was an inside job and that assassinations of JFK, Bobby Kennedy and Dr King were all government assassinations? Fucking bullshit!
"But we do have a fingerprint in the sniper's nest tying LBJ to the killing, don't we?
No You Don't !
"Just to clarify, this was proved to be an erroneous identification. Wallace is not tied to the "sniper's nest" by fingerprints. Darby is either deceased or is no longer certified by the IAI ; the match was incorrect" .
Darby died, he was sure. The fingerprint is valid, it's just that you'll buy any BS that they sling out there. The government bet that they could keep this buried forever, history will look back on us as being absolute fools for accepting this silliness. LBJ killed him, case closed.
He was getting out of the business & retiring so it didn't matter that he shamelessly lied in order to line his pockets w/ blood $ . Grow up , he's just another of the 50 million liars in this case .
On one side of the ring we have 50 million liars shamelessly trying to embarrass the gov't with tales of the back of JFK's head being blown away, shots from the front, autopsy photos faked to show a lone gunman. On the other side, LBJ sealed records for almost 100 years, teamed with Hoover to alter autopsy photos, altered witness' statements, anything to fool the sheeple. 80% of Americans believe there's a conspiracy, they just don't know the details. Darby got it right, who needs to grow up?
To some conspiracy nuts, you could show a video of Oswald firing the rifle, but that wouldn't do. They'd simply rationalize that it was simply part of the government conspiracy or a fake.
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.
Since you don't have a video showing Oswald doing anything, I guess we're out of luck. But we do have a fingerprint in the sniper's nest tying LBJ to the killing, don't we? LBJ had JFK killed, Hoover altered the evidence. Simple, isn't it? Now, who are the nuts?
" Gov. Connally and his wife both state that JFK was hit first "
JBC also said that he never saw JFK get hit . His wife is contradicted by the Z-film . Time to revert back to : " I did think that both JFK and Connally were hit at the same time "
" the Z Film contradicts so many other testimonies "
The jails are full of innocent people who have been convicted on eye-witness testimony . Eye-witness testimony is worthless and is the greatest cause of mis-carriage of justice in the United States today . It isn't any wonder why foisties of conspiracy use it all the time now is it ?
" there is so much evidence that the Z film has been altered "
By Whom ? A Conspiracist bent on making a quick $ ? You're WRONG ! The Z-film has been proven to be unaltered . Google : the 'Zavada Report' . The lapel flip , his shoulder dipping , the look of pain on his face are all indications he's been hurt seriously . Even most mainstream CTer's think Z-film alteration is hogwash .
History will look back on this era as full of nit wits who couldn't even analyze that is an obvious forgery. Remember, this is the best forgery the U. S. Government could do in mid 1960's era technology but with today's information, it's little more than a joke.
The Z-film is history using a medium that was available at the time . You are spoiled by todays hi-tech special effects with pristine clarity and are disappointed that JFK recieved 'b' rated , low rent treatment on film . Live with it , he was at best a 'b' rated president .
If you had taken the trouble to actually research the Z-film and the chain of possession you would know that there was no possibility of alteration. The film was processed on 11/22/63.
I did think that both JFK and Connally were hit at the same time, but I'm not so sure now. Gov. Connally and his wife both state that JFK was hit first. His account of events fits with the Z Film. His reaction is not from being hit but reacting to the sounds. His movements seem fast and erratic like he was hit, but there is so much evidence that the Z film has been altered that what we now see cannot be the benchmark against which to analyse eyewitness testimony.
Who the hell is "we" . The people hell bent on continuing the lie's perpetrated by the 'Great JFK Assn. Conspiracy Hoaxing of America' ? Just curious .
"We" means all of us except Stevie Wonder and Ray Charles! What I'm saying is that the Z Film contradicts so many other testimonies. I agree that some of the conspiracy theories dont stack up, but there are clear instances that the Z film has been tampered with.
No bullet was recovered ! That was a dent , from a fragment of the head shot ,
S T R E T C H E D out of proportions by conspiracy guff ! Ed Hoffman has been discredited , even his own father said he invented things happening prior to this event . Are we going to go thru all 10,000 contructs conjured by conspiracists for a quick buck ? Just curious because there all lies .
Yes, ok very good. I just wanted to mention how silly it is to think "they" set-up Oswald shooting from the back, but then actually shot JFK from the front. What fucking moron conspirators could be so stupid as to shoot the victim from the WRONG DIRECTION, after going through all the trouble to make it look like it came from the back? It's just ridiculous.
To : marksesl "JFK was already hit even before the lapel"
They are reacting to the gunshot that missed the limo completely at Z-160 . The lapel flip is when the shot goes through both men . No question or else JBC's thigh bone would of been broken by CE-399 . See Book Kennedy & Lincoln by Dr. Lattimer .
To: cdddraftsman "They are reacting to the gunshot that missed the limo completely"
Yes, I tend to agree that's possible. The only persistant problem here is that JC does not show any personal reaction to being shot until frame 213, about 18 frames after JFK was struck behind the sign.
That's one second ? Hardly a persistent problem . That is most likely a slight delayed reaction . Many see the start of a dropping of his right shoulder immediately after the lapel flip . It takes careful measurments to detect this .
To cdddraftsman "That's one second? Hardly a persistent problem." Ok, it all seems plausible. There doesn't seem to be a better explanation. JC and his wife say there were only 3 shots. Now, what about the bullet they found embedded near the top of the windshield. I've seen pictures. Where did it come from? What about the deaf mute who claims he saw a shooter behind the gk fence? Any info on this stuff? I've been there, by the way, to see things first hand.
Sorry for that remark but this isn't some damn popularity contest . The truth doesn't have a requirement that someone has to believe in it or else the earth would be flat . Is the earth flat SCGATOR ?
John and Jackie are already responding to the shot in frames 206 and 207 where they are clearly looking directly at one another. And, as they emerge, Jackie is showing more concern by cocking her head to the side. JFK was already hit even before the lapel on Conelly puches out (assuming that is what is even happening).
Connally at Z224 is responding to a bullet fragment, NOT to a shot to his back. Connally is raising his arms which you see him do as he turns to his LEFT (Z231), then he starts the broad turn to his right to look at JFK. The turn takes in excess of 5 seconds when Connally is shot in the back at Z325, .7 seconds AFTER JFK head shot! The biggest lie in history, the single bullet theory.
Sorry, I was mistaken. JFK is looking stright ahead in frame 207, Jackie is however looking at him, which may indicate he was already in distress before going behind the sign.
Actually frame 205 does show Kennedy looking directly at Jackie and then looks stright ahead again in frames 206 and 207. Jackie continues to look at JFK before during and after emergence from the sign. I believe this tends to show Kennedy was hit before Connally.
SCGATOR2001 is a asshole agitator who has a one track mind that is all conspiracy ! He's a D U N C E who is disloyal to his country and should be committed to a conspiracy coo-coo clinic for wanna-be conspiracists !
NO, I'm not disloyal, I served as a military officer. I understand that a country such as ours cannot survive with a black mark such as this murder of a President . Polls have shown 80% of American believe there was a conspiracy, and they're right. The only thing left to be worked out is the details of how LBJ killed Kennedy. And we really need to get Hoover's name off the FBI building in Washington.
Sorry for that remark but this isn't some damn popularity contest . The truth doesn't have a requirement that someone has to believe in it or else the earth would be flat . Is the earth flat SCGATOR ?
JBC also said he never saw JFK get hit , thats why he turned in the other direction . That alone destroys your destroying of Meyers work . The SBT Lives because it ROCKS ! Yaaa !
JBC also said he never believed there was a conspiracy and that the movie JFK was EVIL !
Dale Meyer shows that indeed Connally and Kennedy were hit from the same bullet. This is something I didn't believe before but it's very obvious here.
The problem with your conclusion about Dale Meyers conclusions is that many of his ASSUMPTIONS are simply not true. When you first see JFK, his hands are already being raised to his neck. He reacts BEFORE Connally. What happened? JFK was shot before Connally by the second shot, the shot after they emerge from behind the sign is the third shot. JFK of course was hit in the head after this with the 4th shot, Connally was hit by the 5th shot.
The jacket bulges out because Connally raises his arm in response to a bullet fragment, not a bullet to his back. Look at Z223/224, you first see JFK's hands which are already being raised to his neck. How did JFK respond FASTER than the bullet? How did Connally turn in the next 4 seconds to look over his right shoulder with a bullet through his body? The simple answer is he wasn't shot in the back until later. Physics tells us exactly when that is. Johnson/Hoover killed him.
In an interview with Connally, he says that first he looked over his right shoulder in response to hearing gunfire - which he does. THEN, the turns to look over his left shoulder. This is when he said he was hit, like a punch from behind. So Connally's own testimony destroys this video interpretation.
Look at my story on FREEREPUBLIC, search for Connally (EXPLAINING THE SHOOTING..) Connally was shot in the back less than a second AFTER President Kennedy was hit in the head. The frames of the Connally head snap down when he was hit in the back is at the bottom of that story. Questions, just ask!
JBC also said he never saw JFK get hit , thats why he turned in the other direction . That alone destroys your destroying of Meyers work . The SBT Lives because it ROCKS ! Yaaa !
JBC also said he never believed there was a conspiracy and that the movie JFK was EVIL !
Dale Meyers is bang on , there's no question that he's brought the coon skin hat home and nailed it to the wall . As far as SGGATOR2001 goes , second rate , bottom shelf and low brow . Earl Warren is my senior citizen action hero of the week !
How are you going to handle it when the single bullet theory is going to be proven to be the single biggest BS story in history? Connally was shot in the back O.7 seconds AFTER the fatal head shot to JFK. Just sit back and listen, the story is coming!
The bullet doesn't have to go thru the lapel to make the lapel flip up . Put on a jacket and try it yourself by pinching a portion to the right and below the lapel , if you get it just right the lapel will flip up as u pull fast on the jacket . I suggest also you relocate your headquarters away from your hindquarters , there seems to be some interference with how you think ! .........heheheh !
Governor Connally was NOT struck in the back at the time Meyer and the Warren Commission say, he was hit in the back at Z=325, a shot fired 0.7 seconds AFTER the fatal head shot to JFK. Look at Z=223, JFK already has his hands up when the bullet supposedly hit Connally. It didn't happen like Meyer says.
Your type of opinion , used as fact , for the past 44 years is bunk . All it leads to is to feather the pockets of conspiracists and causes national angst for no reason what so ever , Thats the good news ! The bad news is that what was thought to be conspiracy theory's based upon science is likened to creationists who use psuedo-science :
Take a look at my article on FREEREPUBLIC, search for Connally and read. You have to realize that a 1960's lie is no match for today's technology. Once you know beyond any doubt that the solution is simple, then either the investigators were the biggest idiots in history, or the fix was in. Put it another way, Lincoln said you can fool some of the people ALL the time.
Well then you apparently took it , hook line and stinker because I wouldn't believe anything you have to say because your brainwashed ! Or did a damp sponge suffice ? The WCR is a ' Beacon of Truth ' and they got it right ! You Can Take My Word To The bank On It ! .........tl
Well, I don't use pseudoscience for anything. We can both disagree about the WCR and talk about sponges and brainwashing, or you can read my article on when John Connally was shot in the back. It's really pretty simple to prove beyond any doubt what really happened, if you have any questions, ask, I'll be glad to explain it to you.
I'm sure you don't , that's why the critical community in this Nation has 63 different assassins , firing from 12 different locations , upwards of 10+ shots . All mutually exclusive of each other , Obviously a impossibility since this assassination only could of happened one way . I don't even need to hear your explaination , I've been involved for 30yrs. and I know as a fact your wrong . No question in my mind , without even looking ! .........tl
To quote a fantastic analogy: "YOU"RE PICKIN' GNAT SHIT OUTTA PEPPER!"
Ignore the fact that the closest eyewitnesses (cops, limo occupants) give accounts that blood, brain and bone fragments were thrown both forward AND rearward.
That's two fatal head shots, almost simultaneously struck. But, go ahead, focus on a lapel flapping in the breeze, if you need some kind of lie to help you sleep at night.
connally is holding his stetson cowboy hat in his right hand as he turns around to check on kennedy- by his own admission. -according to this right wing hack-yeah I said it!!!- connally is already had his rib cracked, bullett exits, shatters his right wrist , exits and flesh wounds his thigh-all the while he holds his stetson hat in his right hand. oh yeah, did I tell ya about the bullett found on a stretcher at the hospital?-you gonna think it's a magic bullett when ya see it! used cars here
larrywheels 11 months ago
The problem with the shot at 224 theory is that Kennedy is ALREADY REACTING at frame 224. You can see him lowering his arms and clenching his fist at frame 224, which would be too fast for him to react to the shot. He was obviously hit earlier. Connally is still holding onto his hat for a long time after frame 224. He could not possibly hold onto the hat after the bullet passed through his wrist.
arrowz12 1 year ago
@arrowz12 Connally and Kennedy are both reacting to the shot at Z224 but you need to also know that Connally is shot in the BACK at Z325, 0.7 seconds AFTER JFK is shot in the head. To UNDERSTAND what is going on and both statements above to be true, you have to UNDERSTAND the significant finding that is shown in my video THE TWILIGHT ZONE.
Questions?
SCGATOR2001 1 year ago
Those of you who insist that Connolly was hit by a different bullet need to share with us the evidence you have to support your position. I have some questions: At what specific frame (Zapruder film) was Connolly struck? When he was struck did he receive all his wounds from one bullet? Where did the bullet go that struck JFK in this back and exited his throat? Where specifically was the shot that hit Connolly fired from?
LoneNutter1 1 year ago
Connally is obviously shot at 224. That body language and facial reactions are from being shot. I don't care what anyone says you can't tell me Connally isn't shot at 223-224. The lapel flaps open in one frame which is 1/19ths of a second, which is too fast to be caused by any arm movement. And I fully believe in a conspiracy.
Exiles800 1 year ago
Gator is a bull shit artist, I challange him to produce a you tube video that will confirm his so called finding.
You conspiracy loons just keep trying to prove your bull shit. It was one man, one gun, three bullets, cased closed.
Dannavy85 2 years ago
The head shot came from the front. It was a conspiracy.
angrydoug 1 year ago
@Dannavy85 Okay,Mr.Posner..
MrLordbaltimore 1 year ago
Connally was first hit in the back at frame 244 245 and then was hit again in the wrist and leg while he was laying down imo
akaredcrossbow 2 years ago
If Connally was shot at that point, as Dale Meyer contends, he might want to explain why Connally is still holding his hat. Wasn't that same bullet supposed to have hit his wrist? Such outright bullsh*t. The magic bullet was a complete fabrication, and everybody on the Warren Commission knew it.
AlmeidaFan 2 years ago 3
I sent you a private reply showing that in RATHER'S QUESTION, I show that Connally was shot in the back a split second after JFK was shot in the head.
The proof of that is the only audio recording corresponds directly with that observation, the last two shots were fired BANG-BANG, 0.7 seconds apart.
We now know with odds well over million(s) to one that the shot that killed JFK was fired from the grassy knoll.
The only question left to answer is WHO and WHY, and that is easy now too
SCGATOR2001 2 years ago
No, gives rise to the "MAGIC" bullet theory -- concocted by then lawyer now Republocrat PA Senator Arlen Spector; a bullet that magically appeared on a Parkland Hospital stretcher in virtually pristine condition. WOW..that's just so believable!!
marcostar57 2 years ago
You can't just generally refer to a bullet fragment hitting Connally in the leg and causing the lapel to flap outward without accounting for the path of that fragment. Any fragment hitting Connally in the leg would have to travel there through Connally or leave a trace of where it hit in order to become fragmented. Plus Connally never testifies that he was hit in the leg by a fragment and then 'punched in the back'. Sorry, not plausible until you give better evidence.
Exiles800 2 years ago
Ah, not taking any side here but I'm conspicuously seeing a lack of any explanation for the lapel shooting out in frame 224. There's no doubt from the Zapruder film Kennedy and Connally react at the same time at frame 224. The lapel only helps confirm this. What blew the lapel outward? Direct answer please.
Exiles800 2 years ago
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cdddraftsman 3 years ago
Dale Myers is a lying disinformation agent and a gutless coward (just like cdddraftsman). Here's the PROOF...
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Keep that in mind while you watch this propoganda disinformation bullshit cartoon.
VinnyVoom444 3 years ago 2
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The Single Bullet Myth is a fraud based upon drawings and conjecture, not X-Rays, photos, or the FBI's report. Arlen Specter is exposed and cornered with those facts here...
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No SBT, no Lone Nut gunman. Ooops! Sorry Sheeple Squad, your fairy tale is just that, and Dale Myers Discovery Channel cartoon is as valid for JFK assn research as Elmer Fudd & Bugs Bunny is valid for rabbit hunting, and Popeye is for the health benefits of spinach.
VinnyVoom444 3 years ago
cddraftsman and mag30th are the same person?
Did he work for CIA before?
What's his motivation and agenda?
Why he's so obsessively defending about something he's not a part of?
It's natural for the people wanting to know the truth but I don't get those people trying to silence them.
allgoo19 3 years ago 5
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VinnyVoom444 3 years ago
Cddickless is a lying piece-of-shit disinformation agent, a fascist, a bigot, and a sociopath.
Google "Tom Lowery JFK" and see this degenerate asshole exposed for what he is.
If this gutless 2 bit whore traitor who lives to serve illegitimate authority were alive in the US colonies in the 1700's we'd all still be wearing powdered wigs in court and paying taxes to the King.
VinnyVoom444 2 years ago
@allgoo19 a few years ago I posted and got responses from that bum-he offers nothing- resorts to bottom feeding attacks-very crude person. you see -the guy is very one dimensional- he's bought in to the myths laid out for him so he keeps supporting the next war. he lives in a john wayne world where j edgar hoover did no wrong. people who think on different levels and question official versions of history are anti-american to him- either that or he get paid by some rich texas oilman
larrywheels 11 months ago
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Again ! :
"WC Report was a fact finding mission, not a criminal investigation"
There findings ? :
a) LHO bought the gun that fired the shots that killed JFK .
b) LHO's presemce during the assassination is unknown . He had no alibi and no one would vouch for him .
c) LHO killed a policeman (6-8 witnesses) after fleeing the TSBD .
d) LHO was convicted in a mock trial by Vincent Bugliosi in the UK .
Case closed .
cdddraftsman 3 years ago
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"Who is Gov. Connally?"
The last person on Earth to ask of details about a assassin or which bullet hit him or when he was struck . The bullets came from behind him , now unless you can prove that a man in that went into shock after he was hit and that he had eye's in the back of his head I suggest that his 'interesting storys' be classified as just that .
cdddraftsman 3 years ago
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Again ! :
"WC Report was a fact finding mission, not a criminal investigation"
There findings ? :
a) LHO bought the gun that fired the shots that killed JFK .
b) LHO's presemce during the assassination is unknown . He had no alibi and no one would vouch for him .
c) LHO killed a policeman (6-8 witnesses) after fleeing the TSBD .
d) LHO was convicted in a mock trial by Vincent Bugliosi in the UK .
Case closed .
cdddraftsman 3 years ago
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Again !
JBC never believed in conspiracy . He said of the movie JFK "I think it's a evil film . It suggests the USG killed JFK , that's not what happened nor could of it of happened"
Direction of where shots originated :
53.8 % TSBD ( Concures w/ WCR )
33.7 % grassy knoll
4.8 % 2 directions
7.7 % other
cdddraftsman 3 years ago
Journalist Doug Thompson asked Connally if he believed Oswald killed JFK and he replied, "Absolutely not - I do not, for one second, believe the conclusions of the Warren Commission."
Thompson asked why he had not spoken out about this. Connally replied: "Because I love this country and we needed closure at the time. I will never speak out publicly about what I believe."
I'm not sure JBC was right about Oswald, but he certainly DID believe there was a conspiracy.
bobharris77 3 years ago 3
Yet, if you're quoting him, then, obviously, he IS willing to speak out publicly against the findings of the Warren Commission. Besides, what does it matter what he believes? Is he some kind of expert on the subject? I'll bet he knows LESS about the details of the assassination than the WC investigators. So, his opinion, one way or the other, is of little importance.
davidemerling 3 years ago
I don't think ANYONE knows LESS about the Kennedy Assassination than the WC investigators except perhaps you.
Who is Gov. Connally? Uh, somebody RIDING IN THE VEHICLE AT THE TIME. Somebody with combat experience who saw Kennedy react to the first shot and tried to get a better look and then was shot himself. Somebody who knows a bullet doesn't hang in mid-air for 2 seconds (actually 1.9). How's that for starters?
PabloPena108 3 years ago
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The Single Bullet Myth is a fraud based upon drawings and conjecture, not X-Rays, photos, or the FBI's report. Arlen Specter is exposed and cornered with those facts here...
watch?v=aS3zrdkoCdY
No SBT, no Lone Nut gunman. Ooops! Sorry Sheeple Squad, your fairy tale is just that, and Dale Myers Discovery Channel cartoon is as valid for JFK assn research as Elmer Fudd & Bugs Bunny is valid for rabbit hunting, and Popeye is for the health benefits of spinach.
VinnyVoom444 3 years ago
Dale Myers is exposed as the lying coward he is here:
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The truth WILL NOT be censored by complicit sheeple cowards like davidmerling, who won't allow it to be posted on his video threads, yet allows a degenerate sociopaths like cddraftsman and all his sock puppets to spread his lies.
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VinnyVoom444 3 years ago
Well, JBC never believed that he was hit by the same bullet. That´s important. Of cource he would never accuse his friend Lyndon of killing JFK. Thats what the movie JFK implicated.
Zeitzler 3 years ago
Actually, Connelly did recant himself to some extent later on regarding the shots. Look it up.
smithnya 3 years ago
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VinnyVoom444 3 years ago
Sorry; that is NOT correct.
Connally did NOT collapse because he couldn't breath anymore, he collapsed because he was shot in the back AFTER KENNEDY WAS SHOT IN THE HEAD.
Connally said that he was BENT OVER BY THE FORCE OF THE BULLET.
There are TWO reasons Connally is bent over AFTER JFK IS SHOT IN THE HEAD.
What is the other reason and WHEN was Connally shot in the back?
SCGATOR2001 3 years ago
Compare Myers claims to "Connelly describing his wound in JFK murder" on youtube. It´s clear that Connally wasn´t wounded at Z224. He is well until the fatal head shot to JFK. Then he collapsed due to his nearly deadly wounds. After Z224 we can see Connally turned to JFK. He couldn´t do this with a wound in his chest which caused him to collapse because he couldn´t breathe anymore.
Zeitzler 3 years ago
You NEVER decide WHEN Connally is struck in the back. Connally said OVER AND OVER "THE FORCE OF THE BULLET BENT ME OVER"
When is Connally bent over? Look at my video Connelly describing his wound in JFK murder. You conclude he fell over because he couldn't breathe anymore, that he just collapased, no, it's simpler than this.
Watch the Z film and compare it to what Connally says.
NOW, read ROY KELLERMAN's Warren Commission testimony.
WHAT EXACTLY DOES Kellerman say about the LAST TWO SHOTS?
SCGATOR2001 3 years ago
I totally agree. Connally collapsed by Z315because of the impact of the shot and because he couldn´t breath anymore.
Zeitzler 3 years ago
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JBC never believed in conspiracy . He said of the movie JFK "I think it's a evil film . It suggests the USG killed JFK , that's not what happened nor could of it of happened"
Direction of where shots originated :
53.8 % TSBD ( Concures w/ WCR )
33.7 % grassy knoll
4.8 % 2 directions
7.7 % other
cdddraftsman 3 years ago
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"WC Report was a fact finding mission, not a criminal investigation"
There findings ? :
a) LHO bought the gun that fired the shots that killed JFK .
b) LHO's presemce during the assassination is unknown . He had no alibi and no one would vouch for him .
c) LHO killed a policeman (6-8 witnesses) after fleeing the TSBD .
d) LHO was convicted in a mock trial by Vincent Bugliosi in the UK .
Case closed .
cdddraftsman 3 years ago
"he says that when that fell out it was picked up"
He didn't see it so he couldn't possibly know what it was . Something fell on the floor , not the bullet and it's illogical to assume it was a fragment and if it was , the nurse would of brought to someones attention immediately . What happened was that CE-399 had already fallen out of his pants leg on the stretcher and he assumed later , whatever metal object was dropped was the bullet outta his leg , not true .
cdddraftsman 3 years ago
"JBC notes how easy it was 4 evidence of what really happened 2 disappear"
The real evidence is in the National Archives and it all points towards LHO . Evidence can disappear for benign reasons also . If you had possession of CE-399 for example , it's face value is 20ct. , given the provenance it has as a historic item as world class as the SBT , it would go out at a starting bid of $100,000 .
Ruby's pistol fetched $250,000 .
cdddraftsman 3 years ago
CE399, the bullet allegedly 'found' on a stretcher in Parkland Hospital, is not the fragment that came out of Connally - he says that when that fell out it was picked up immediately.
This fragment never turned up, and Connally notes how easy it was for evidence of what really happened to disappear.
You can read about it in his autobiography "In History's Shadow".
proudfootz 3 years ago
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Tres Spics está en un coche, uno esconde una navaja de muelle y una falsificación tarjeta verde, otro uno que come frijoles y farting por su pantalones de assless, el otro seca su espalda mojada con un sombrero. ¿Quién maneja el coche?
La respuesta: La policía.
ErnestJismheadz 3 years ago
BEYOND THE MAGIC BULLET DID NOT recreate the "shot."
The bullet failed to produce a fragment that hit Connally's left leg. IT is myth (actually a necessary lie) to say it was a bullet and NOT a bullet fragment as Dr. Shaw said.
Plus, the bullet hit two ribs and was NOTICABLY DEFORMED, unlike CE399. The Australians blame two ribs for that problem:
1 Not penetrating Connally's left leg
2 Bullet noticably deformed
Show is BS, LBJ killed him, Hoover covered it up. Simply OBVIOUS now.
SCGATOR2001 3 years ago
"Not penetrating Connally's left leg"
Because it hit two ribs instead of one it didn't have enough velocity to penetrate JBC's left leg .
"Bullet noticably deformed"
As the bullet did more damage (2 ribs v 1 rib) closer to the initiation point (Gun muzzle) it would be expected to look more damaged . Remember the faster the bullet goes when striking a object , the more damage it can be ecpected to recieve . Since no two gunshot wounds are ever the same , this experiment is A+
cdddraftsman 3 years ago
What?! It woulds have taken VERY little more velocity to penetrate Connally's leg! The recreation of the shot did not hit the mark on JFK precisely, it was not a moving target and Oswalds trajectory can only be (closely) guessed at. You saying it was noticably deformed when it was only slightly more is a disservice, but then again you say LBJ killed JFK (with this "simple, obvious now" comment), so I guess your nuts.
What's on the Sci-Fi channel tonight or are you watching for UFO's?
pajasa62 3 years ago
Dr. who treated Connally said a bullet fragment was in Connally's left leg, a TRIVIAL WOUND.
FBI agent at the autopsy said the bullet wound to JFK's back was traced with Dr's finger, no point of exit, same with a probe, no point of exit.
Unless the Gov't was telling you this, you'd NEVER believe it's true, history will look back on this lie and wonder HOW in the world a country could be hijacked by Hoover and LBJ to believe such silliness.
YOU CAN FOOL SOME OF THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME!
SCGATOR2001 3 years ago
Yeah, great, big conspiracy, yet they let an FBI agent in the autopsy, that contradicts the autopsy?
You're right, you CAN fool some of the people all of the time, look in the mirror pal!
So what calculations did trhe conspirators use to figure that a bullet at 2000 ft/second was going to barely penetrate Connally's leg, enabling it to fall out, remove that, so they could place another, NO, not in the easier to plant and control LIMO, but randomly on a stretcher?
pajasa62 3 years ago
Here is all you need to know about cddraftsman, (aka: BigPapaShitz, aka: Mag30th, aka: pajasa62, aka: ninnydumbdumb, etc., etc., etc.). In short he is a lying disinformation agent, a delusional sociopath, and a simple gutless internet coward:
youtube dot com/watch?v=urNbQVFPUzU
watch?v=7vzIxkq9EEc
watch?v=XZWtsX2IZy8
And yes, Bob Harris reposted them. Enjoy!
VinnyVoom444 3 years ago 2
Here is all you need to know about cddraftsman, (aka: BigPapaShitz, aka: Mag30th, aka: pajasa62, aka: ninnydumbdumb, etc., etc., etc.). In short he is a lying disinformation agent, a delusional sociopath, and a simple gutless internet coward:
youtube dot com/watch?v=urNbQVFPUzU
watch?v=7vzIxkq9EEc
watch?v=XZWtsX2IZy8
And yes, Bob Harris reposted them. Enjoy!
VinnyVoom444 3 years ago
jackie did it,or?leans towaeds him and shoot him,and then quickly slides back to deliver the gun. I`m not the first one who se this?
dagmegselv 3 years ago
When you want to solve a crime, consider everything, I agree. But Jackie didn't shoot anybody, the shots to Connally and the two to JFK were from different directions than where Jackie was.
Connally said the bullet (to his back) bent him over, it was fired from behind. The shots to JFK, to the back from behind, to the neck, from in front, and the head shot at Z313was from the right front of the limo.
Isn't that clear, I can't see any way Jackie did it.
SCGATOR2001 3 years ago
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Or SCG's version of history : LBJ killed JFK in his own state , to inherit the greatest mess the world had ever been in (Vietnam : killed 1000's of his fellow Americans , Cuba , Snivel Rights , The Cold War , Nuclear Proliferation , on & on ) in order to not run for re-election & as a toot to boot : The stress cost him 10 years off his life (He eventyally died of a heart attack)
Really Gator ? I'll think I'll take the USG's story . Will save time not having to memorize all the lies .
cdddraftsman 3 years ago
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Or SCG's version of history : LBJ killed JFK in his own state , to inherit the greatest mess the world had ever been in (Vietnam : killed 1000's of his fellow Americans , Cuba , Snivel Rights , The Cold War , Nuclear Proliferation , on & on ) in order to not run for re-election & as a toot to boot : The stress cost him 10 years off his life (He eventyally died of a heart attack)
Really Gator ? I'll think I'll take the USG's story . Will save time not having to memorize all the lies .
cdddraftsman 3 years ago
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Or SCG's version of history : LBJ killed JFK in his own state , to inherit the greatest mess the world had ever been in (Vietnam : killed 1000's of his fellow Americans , Cuba , Snivel Rights , The Cold War , Nuclear Proliferation , on & on ) in order to not run for re-election & as a toot to boot : The stress cost him 10 years off his life (He eventyally died of a heart attack)
Really Gator ? I'll think I'll take the USG's story . Will save time not having to memorize all the lies .
cdddraftsman 3 years ago
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ErnestJismheadz 3 years ago
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& exploitation by the likes
of Mark Lane." p. xxii : "Lane's RUSH TO JUDGMENT provides a classic example of subjective gimmickry w/ it scholarly cosmetic of 4,500 footnotes containing 100's of substantial errors & repetitions . Quotations w/in the text have been quietly changed in o/ 200 instances from original documented versions , important material has been excised from the evidence in order to highlight the trivial or to mislead ." end quote . That's CTer history in a nutshell ! .
cdddraftsman 3 years ago
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& exploitation by the likes
of Mark Lane." p. xxii : "Lane's RUSH TO JUDGMENT provides a classic example of subjective gimmickry w/ it scholarly cosmetic of 4,500 footnotes containing 100's of substantial errors & repetitions . Quotations w/in the text have been quietly changed in o/ 200 instances from original documented versions , important material has been excised from the evidence in order to highlight the trivial or to mislead ." end quote . That's CTer history in a nutshell ! .
cdddraftsman 3 years ago
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p. xxii : "Lane's RUSH TO JUDGMENT provides a classic example of subjective gimmickry w/ it scholarly cosmetic of 4,500 footnotes containing 100's of substantial errors & repetitions . Quotations w/in the text have been quietly changed in o/ 200 instances from original documented versions , important material has been excised from the evidence in order to highlight the trivial or to mislead ." end quote . That's CTer history in a nutshell ! .
cdddraftsman 3 years ago
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those hypothesis have got to be wrong because the assassin. only happened one way . That's hilarious & shows you who the evil minions are = The conspiracy writers themselves . Take for example Mark Lane who started it off & was the 1st superstar : I quotes from : THE ASSASSINATION OF JFK by Historians Guth & Wrone (1980) Subtitled : A COMPREHENSIVE & LEGAL BIBLIORAPHY (63-79)
On p. viii of preface : "We wish to lift the subject out of the quagmire of often bizarre
speculations and
cdddraftsman 3 years ago
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those hypothesis have got to be wrong because the assassin. only happened one way . That's hilarious & shows you who the evil minions are = The conspiracy writers themselves . Take for example Mark Lane who started it off & was the 1st superstar : I quotes from : THE ASSASSINATION OF JFK by Historians Guth & Wrone (1980) Subtitled : A COMPREHENSIVE & LEGAL BIBLIORAPHY (63-79)
On p. viii of preface : "We wish to lift the subject out of the quagmire of often bizarre
speculations and
cdddraftsman 3 years ago
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upon the opposite of the scientific method . Same w/ JFK Hoaxing : No CTer has proposed a 'theory' that is really a 'theory' at all . There 'working hypothesis' that never left that stage & can't even be called 'theory's' because they were rushed to print , collect the retainer fee & before it's debunked , they've already cashed the check . No other way to explain 68 different assassins & helpers that are all nutually exclusive of one another . Meaning ? By the simplist of logic 99.9% of
cdddraftsman 3 years ago
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upon the opposite of the scientific method . Same w/ JFK Hoaxing : No CTer has proposed a 'theory' that is really a 'theory' at all . There 'working hypothesis' that never left that stage & can't even be called 'theory's' because they were rushed to print , collect the retainer fee & before it's debunked , they've already cashed the check . No other way to explain 68 different assassins & helpers that are all nutually exclusive of one another . Meaning ? By the simplist of logic 99.9% of
cdddraftsman 3 years ago
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a incredible lack of thought & originality . Example : It takes disappearing assassins from a standard theme in UFOlogy . Take our word for it , there was evidence of a UFO but the USG came in at the last moment & scooped up all the evidence . Disagree w/ their conslusions because there so silly ... well that equates to you being paid by *Them* & your labeled as part of the plot . This closed circuit thinking doesn't permit other possible explanations for sightings because it's based
cdddraftsman 3 years ago
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a incredible lack of thought & originality . Example : It takes disappearing assassins from a standard theme in UFOlogy . Take our word for it , there was evidence of a UFO but the USG came in at the last moment & scooped up all the evidence . Disagree w/ their conslusions because there so silly ... well that equates to you being paid by *Them* & your labeled as part of the plot . This closed circuit thinking doesn't permit other possible explanations for sightings because it's based
cdddraftsman 3 years ago
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"So you explain this whole thing as a"
Bunch of people (Most had a background or gravitated from the UFO Hoaxing Business) started JFK Hoaxing and have built it into a multi-million dollar cottage industry based upon repeticious lies and a public's disbelief that a senseless act of violence that stole their hero has no broader meaning . Supply a broader meaning by evil minions of conspiracy is better than a two headed boy at a circus , you don't even have to feed it . It's suffers from
cdddraftsman 3 years ago
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"So you explain this whole thing as a"
Bunch of people (Most had a background or gravitated from the UFO Hoaxing Business) started JFK Hoaxing and have built it into a multi-million dollar cottage industry based upon repeticious lies and a public's disbelief that a senseless act of violence that stole their hero has no broader meaning . Supply a broader meaning by evil minions of conspiracy is better than a two headed boy at a circus , you don't even have to feed it . It's suffers from
cdddraftsman 3 years ago
A bunch of people consistently telling lies about the back of JFK's head being blown out by a frontal shot that never was .
In the JFK Assassination Conspiracy Hoaxing of America :
You can fool most of the people all of the time and all of the people most of the time,
but you can't fool none of the people none of the time.
cdddraftsman 3 years ago
So you explain this whole thing as a bunch of JFK assassination conspiracy types just started lying for the last 40 something years, for no other reason than to lie and keep this lie going, and some of them wrote books to make money, get on TV.
OR
The obvious: LBJ killed JFK and the Gov't is petrified that Joe Six Pack is going to finally realize he's been made a fool for believing the Press and a corrupt gov't that isn't going to come clean.
LBJ and Hoover. IT's obvious.
SCGATOR2001 3 years ago
"Why were the autopsy records which are obviously fraudulent not released?"
Ask the Kennedy Family . RFK had all the records in a lock box @ the White House for years before release to the National Archives . He was in possession of all autopsy material and disposed of his brothers brain so conspiracy numbnuts wouldn't parade it through DP on a pole !
cdddraftsman 3 years ago
JFK lost approx 10% of his brains that were shot out . The increase of brain size to 1400 or 1500 grms was due to swelling of tissue and intake of fluids used for fixation of brain prior to sectioning . Paul O'Connors has become a noted conspiracy dandy , he's willing to lie his ass off for notoriety sake and can no longer be trusted to tell the truth . At best he was a bit part player , listening to him you'd think he conducted the autopsy all by his lonesome :-) Hehehehe !
cdddraftsman 3 years ago
Watch Paul O'Connor's testimony regarding the whereabouts of Kennedy's brain. Watch Vincent Bugliosi's surprised reaction when he hears what O'Connor says towards the end of his testimony.
watch?v=sDYNMlXD59o
Zapadac 3 years ago
To : Zapadac "Listen to Paul O'Connor's"
Hahahahaha ! Paul O'Conners > Stewed to the gills ! Hero of dolty conspiracy fables gone wild , in liftons 'Best Evidence' or was that 'Worst Evidence' Doesn't matter , will e-mail you the particulars .
cdddraftsman 3 years ago
Jackie Kennedy on the whereabouts of Kennedy's brain, published one year after her death at her request..."Dave Powers came running to me, my legs and hands were covered with is brains. I tried to hold the top of his head down, maybe I could keep it. I knew he was dead. Dr Perry wanted me to get out (of the ER). But I said, "It's my husband, his blood, his brains are all over me." That stuff you see flying out of his head at Z313, that ain't chopped liver. It's brain matter.
Zapadac 3 years ago
This is from an interview that Jackie gave to Theodore White one week after the assassination, and published in 1995, one year after her death. check the jfklancer website, pdf/Camelot.pdf
Zapadac 3 years ago
And the Dr's at Parkland said that the massive hole was in the BACK of the head, NOT THE FRONT AS THE Z FILM SHOWS.
Either the Dr's at Parkland are nuts OR the Gov't is lying. You seem to buy the big lie, but the majority of Americans do NOT.
You guys who keep trying to push the big lie are simply pathetic. As many ask, what's your real motive?
Getting NERVOUS?
I knew one senior military who refused to believe the obvious, he confused patriotism with thinking.
WHAT IS YOUR EXCUSE?
SCGATOR2001 3 years ago
Jackie Kennedy said that the wound was at the top of the head, just above the forehead. I'll go with that. She had the best view of everyone. Or was Jackie part of the "conspiracy" also? I'll believe that the back of the head was also shattered. Go shoot a melon and watch where all the fragments go.
Zapadac 3 years ago
I posted his testimony...
watch?v=sDYNMlXD59o
Zapadac 3 years ago
"There's no other POSSIBLE explanation"
Yes there is . YOU ARE IN DENIAL BIG TIME THAT LHO SHOT JFK AND HE DID IT ALL BY HIS LONESOME ! THAT'S OFFICIAL !
cdddraftsman 3 years ago
"Of course you do KNOW WITHOUT A DOUBT the Z film has been altered, don't you?"
SAG I wish you would stop spreading this disinformation . At no time was it possible to have this film altered . CTer's established this years ago . To other radical CTer's , the moment LNer's proved by experimentaion that JFK's head could go back & to the left when shot from behind , their agenda changed from Z-film ironclad proof of a shot from the front , to Z-film alteration , very dishonest .
cdddraftsman 3 years ago
DISINFORMATION?
Z film was DEFINITELY altered. There's no other POSSIBLE explanation for the Dr's at Parkland to have seen the massive wound in the back of JFK's head which CLEARLY indicated a shot from the front.
You may think it's credible that many Dr's could make this mistake but I'll NEVER buy it.
Look at this video and THINK, otherwise continue to post silliness supporting the biggest lie in history.
The Zapruder Film: Truth or Deception?
HINT: LBJ killed him, Hoover altered evidence.
SCGATOR2001 3 years ago
All of the doctors have also said that they didn't really pay close attenion to the characteristics of the head wound, because their most urgent task was to stabilize JFK.
Zapadac 3 years ago
One more interesting point. John Connally didn't realize that he had other wounds than his chest wound until the following day, when he woke up after surgery. Connally himself agreed that one bullet caused all of his wounds. All of his wounds were not caused by a bullet traveling in a nice spiral like a perfectly thrown football. Each wound was caused by a tumbling bullet.
Zapadac 3 years ago
YOU can see blood flowing over Connally's hands @ Z224+?
REALLY?
How come people have been asking why they CAN'T see any blood right after Z224? The simple reason is that blood wasn't there. The same reason that Connally turned around in his seat from Z24 all the way until he is shot in the back. The bullet that hit him in the back did NOT hit him in the leg. Look at what Dr. Shaw said about the left leg wound.
It's not too funny, it's pretty serious, don't you think?
SCGATOR2001 3 years ago
Yep, go watch a very good copy of the Z film. Just after Connally's hat flicks up, you can see him holding his hat. You can see the top of the back of his hand. You can see his white sleeve cuff. Frame 243-246, you can see blood flowing out from under the cuff and over the hand. He's out of the picture by frame 257. I have seen this many times on better resolution screens, like television. You can't see it as well on a computer.
Zapadac 3 years ago
Of course you do KNOW WITHOUT A DOUBT the Z film has been altered, don't you?
The first thing that had to be changed was the massive wound to the back of JFK's head, which was relatively easy.
The hard question is WHAT WAS THE SECOND THING THAT ABSOLUTELY HAD TO BE HIDDEN?
When they made these changes, they introduced other "problems."
See The Zapruder Film: Truth or Deception?
/watch?v=w-rcdBNFnGs
SCGATOR2001 3 years ago
So, they must have forgotten to tell Abraham Zapruder that the wound was in the back of the head....go to jfk dot org
/Research/Zapruder/Zapruder_Film.htm
Zapadac 3 years ago
And, the bullet entered Connally's arm 2 inches up from the wrist, shattered the bone, and exited on the palm side of the wrist. Guess what..the entry wound is slightly larger than the exit wound. Dr Shaw originally thought that the bullet entered on the palm side of the wrist, but withdrew his opinion after being presented with the facts. So, even Dr Shaw altered his opinions and is not always so correct.
Zapadac 3 years ago
Lots of interesting story's : Final AARB conclusion : The only thing worse than eye-witness testimony is 30 year old eye-witness testimony . It's totally unreliable ! That's a fact .
cdddraftsman 3 years ago
The only thing worse than eye-witness testimony is 30 year old eye-witness testimony
You wish it is fact but it's not fact. A gov't with the biggest lie in history painted itself into a corner. LBJ killed JFK and history will show us as the biggest fools in history for buying silliness called the SBT, the Warren Commission and the documentaries that keep coming out trying to convince Americans they got it right.
The last straw will be Bugliosi and HBO with Tom Hanks ruining his legacy w.
SCGATOR2001 3 years ago
Lots of interesting story's :
Final AARB conclusion :
The only thing worse than eye-witness testimony is 30 year old eye-witness testimony . It's totally unreliable and basically worthless !
That's a fact .
cdddraftsman 3 years ago
Lots of interesting story's :
Final AARB conclusion :
The only thing worse than eye-witness testimony is 30 year old eye-witness testimony . It's totally unreliable and basically worthless !
That's a fact .
cdddraftsman 3 years ago
You can fool some of the people all of the time,
and all of the people some of the time,
but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
Abraham Lincoln
16th president of US
A bunch of people tell consistent lies about the back of JFK's head being blown out (frontal shot)
OR
Gov't is lying to conceal LBJ KILLED JFK.
The falsified medical evidence is sufficent to PROVE gov't is lying.
SCGATOR2001 3 years ago
Spencer was interviewed by the Assassination Records Review Board (ARRB) in June, 1997. Douglas Horne, who attended the session was later to remark that she developed: "Post mortem photography different from that in the Archives today. (Different type of film and different images.) Her photography seemed to be of the body after reconstruction, but before it was clothed and put in the burial casket."
arsenium666 3 years ago
"LBJ sealed records 4 almost 100 yrs"
AARB has all the records & they've been released 4 years now . It's bad enough that u suspect the USG of doing this , but how credible is it 2 think that *THEY* would leave a written record of killing the Chief Executive 4 the amatuer antic's of CTer's just boggles my brain case :-) YOU MUST BE JOKING ?
cdddraftsman 4 years ago
Not ALL the records have been released.
Why were the autopsy records which are obviously fraudulent not released? Why do the vast majority of the witnesses at Parkland and Bethesda say there was a massive wound in the back of JFK's head?
The simple answer is that once you realize that the evidence was doctored to show a shot to the back of JFK's head, the answer quickly converges to LBJ, no one else could have pulled this off.
They've already given us plenty to prove LBJ/Hoover did it.
SCGATOR2001 4 years ago
"Why were the autopsy records which are obviously fraudulent not released?"
Ask the Kennedy Family . RFK had all the records in a lock box @ the White House for years before release to the National Archives . He was in possession of all autopsy material and disposed of his brothers brain so conspiracy numbnuts wouldn't parade it through DP on a pole !
cdddraftsman 3 years ago
"Why were the autopsy records which are obviously fraudulent not released?"
Ask the Kennedy Family . RFK had all the records in a lock box @ the White House for years before release to the National Archives . He was in possession of all autopsy material and disposed of his brothers brain so conspiracy numbnuts wouldn't parade it through DP on a pole !
cdddraftsman 3 years ago
Well, that is all hogwash. Listen to Paul O'Connor's testimony on the autopsy. He testified that when they went to go surgically remove the brain, there was no brain to remove. You can see where the brain went on the Zapruder film. The bullet blew the brain out. As Conner said, there was no brain to remove. And, he said that when they refer to a brain being removed, measured and preserved in formalin, O'Connor said that they must be talking about someone elses brain.
Zapadac 3 years ago
"Posner will go down in History as an absolute fool"
You will go down in flaming defeat ! Per your 'About this video' You don't seem to realise that a shot to JBC's leg could not be fired from anywhere in DP without it going thru his chest 1st . Any of the high buildings being behind him . So what you state is silly & a geometric impossibility .
cdddraftsman 4 years ago
That's silly and incorrect. First, take a look at CE840. Exactly when did those bullet fragments appear?
Next, take into account the fact that John Connally was a big man. Although we have no proof, his leg was "probably" not straight ahead as the WC wanted to believe, but off to the left. That explains why your geometry argument is incorrect.
We know the bullet fragment that was in Connally's left leg did not come from CE399, so where did it come from? The answer: same bullet w/CE840.
SCGATOR2001 4 years ago
SAGATOR : "Darby got it right, who needs to grow up"?
Just to clarify, this was proved to be an erroneous identification. Wallace is not tied to the "sniper's nest" by fingerprints.
Darby is either deceased or is no longer certified by the IAI ; the match was incorrect .
Kasey Wertheim
IAI Certified Latent Print Examiner
cdddraftsman 4 years ago
"w/ tales of the JFK's boh being blown away/shots front/photos faked/sealed records/alter autopsy photos/altered statements/Darby right"
I take it then that you agree that the case against LHO is as massive as the odds against what you are saying could be true ?
Correction : Tall Tales !
cdddraftsman 4 years ago
Good job!
The best treatment of the assassination is "Case Closed" by Gerald Posner.
wilmoer 4 years ago
Posner will go down in History as an absolute fool.
SCGATOR2001 4 years ago
"LBJ killed him, case closed"
Oh SCGATOR ! I would believe it too if I didn't have a higher learning of life's experiences that tells me thats bunk . Life is not made up of hidden handed assassins and dark conspiracy's but randon chance , personal foible's and happenstances of history . LHO liked JFK but he hated America . Sirhan didn't even know RFK but he stood in the way of his return to Palestine . Those are truisms and the truth .
cdddraftsman 4 years ago
SCGATOR2001 see's this open and shut case against LHO with one eye looking through a microscope and the other through a telescope . If he were in any other country in the world he would be locked up in a conspiracy coo-coo clinic .
cdddraftsman 4 years ago
Anyone have any info. about that gay boy gjjdud 'Was JFK trying to cough up a fur ball' ? Just curious ?
cdddraftsman 4 years ago
"LBJ killed him, case closed"
JFK threatened to give his job to Nixon he got that exasperated . Why would LBJ want a job that cost him 10 years off his life ? That's totally silly .
cdddraftsman 4 years ago
"history will look back on us as being absolute fools"
After literally 1000's of bogus story's by CTer's that postulate a multi-various ending 2 1 event , conspiracy has been discredited by itself w/out the non-existent help by this shadowy gubernment that is so sterling efficient that the INS issued 2 of the 911 terrorist their VISA to stay in the US , but they had been dead for over a year already .
cdddraftsman 4 years ago
This is the same shadowy government that either got WMD intelligence wrong or else as conspiracy theorists would have you believe lied shameless about. In the same breath they claim 9/11 was an inside job and that assassinations of JFK, Bobby Kennedy and Dr King were all government assassinations? Fucking bullshit!
RichardFogarty86 4 years ago
"But we do have a fingerprint in the sniper's nest tying LBJ to the killing, don't we?
No You Don't !
"Just to clarify, this was proved to be an erroneous identification. Wallace is not tied to the "sniper's nest" by fingerprints. Darby is either deceased or is no longer certified by the IAI ; the match was incorrect" .
Kasey Wertheim
IAI Certified Latent Print Examiner
cdddraftsman 4 years ago
Darby died, he was sure. The fingerprint is valid, it's just that you'll buy any BS that they sling out there. The government bet that they could keep this buried forever, history will look back on us as being absolute fools for accepting this silliness. LBJ killed him, case closed.
SCGATOR2001 4 years ago
"Darby died he was sure the fingerprint is valid"
He was getting out of the business & retiring so it didn't matter that he shamelessly lied in order to line his pockets w/ blood $ . Grow up , he's just another of the 50 million liars in this case .
cdddraftsman 4 years ago
On one side of the ring we have 50 million liars shamelessly trying to embarrass the gov't with tales of the back of JFK's head being blown away, shots from the front, autopsy photos faked to show a lone gunman. On the other side, LBJ sealed records for almost 100 years, teamed with Hoover to alter autopsy photos, altered witness' statements, anything to fool the sheeple. 80% of Americans believe there's a conspiracy, they just don't know the details. Darby got it right, who needs to grow up?
SCGATOR2001 4 years ago
To some conspiracy nuts, you could show a video of Oswald firing the rifle, but that wouldn't do. They'd simply rationalize that it was simply part of the government conspiracy or a fake.
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.
smithnya 4 years ago
Since you don't have a video showing Oswald doing anything, I guess we're out of luck. But we do have a fingerprint in the sniper's nest tying LBJ to the killing, don't we? LBJ had JFK killed, Hoover altered the evidence. Simple, isn't it? Now, who are the nuts?
SCGATOR2001 4 years ago
" Gov. Connally and his wife both state that JFK was hit first "
JBC also said that he never saw JFK get hit . His wife is contradicted by the Z-film . Time to revert back to : " I did think that both JFK and Connally were hit at the same time "
cdddraftsman 4 years ago
" the Z Film contradicts so many other testimonies "
The jails are full of innocent people who have been convicted on eye-witness testimony . Eye-witness testimony is worthless and is the greatest cause of mis-carriage of justice in the United States today . It isn't any wonder why foisties of conspiracy use it all the time now is it ?
cdddraftsman 4 years ago
" there is so much evidence that the Z film has been altered "
By Whom ? A Conspiracist bent on making a quick $ ? You're WRONG ! The Z-film has been proven to be unaltered . Google : the 'Zavada Report' . The lapel flip , his shoulder dipping , the look of pain on his face are all indications he's been hurt seriously . Even most mainstream CTer's think Z-film alteration is hogwash .
cdddraftsman 4 years ago
The Z film is a crude alteration.
History will look back on this era as full of nit wits who couldn't even analyze that is an obvious forgery. Remember, this is the best forgery the U. S. Government could do in mid 1960's era technology but with today's information, it's little more than a joke.
SCGATOR2001 4 years ago
"The Z film is a crude alteration"
The Z-film is history using a medium that was available at the time . You are spoiled by todays hi-tech special effects with pristine clarity and are disappointed that JFK recieved 'b' rated , low rent treatment on film . Live with it , he was at best a 'b' rated president .
cdddraftsman 4 years ago
"The Z film is a crude alteration."
If you had taken the trouble to actually research the Z-film and the chain of possession you would know that there was no possibility of alteration. The film was processed on 11/22/63.
violajerk 4 years ago
I did think that both JFK and Connally were hit at the same time, but I'm not so sure now. Gov. Connally and his wife both state that JFK was hit first. His account of events fits with the Z Film. His reaction is not from being hit but reacting to the sounds. His movements seem fast and erratic like he was hit, but there is so much evidence that the Z film has been altered that what we now see cannot be the benchmark against which to analyse eyewitness testimony.
sadlersinengland 4 years ago
" that what we now see "
Who the hell is "we" . The people hell bent on continuing the lie's perpetrated by the 'Great JFK Assn. Conspiracy Hoaxing of America' ? Just curious .
cdddraftsman 4 years ago
"We" means all of us except Stevie Wonder and Ray Charles! What I'm saying is that the Z Film contradicts so many other testimonies. I agree that some of the conspiracy theories dont stack up, but there are clear instances that the Z film has been tampered with.
sadlersinengland 4 years ago
"We" means all of us , Stevie Wonder , Ray Charles and Myself "
Why didn't you say so in the first place ?
The blind leading the blind leadng the blind eh ?
cdddraftsman 4 years ago
"bullet found embedded in windshield"
No bullet was recovered ! That was a dent , from a fragment of the head shot ,
S T R E T C H E D out of proportions by conspiracy guff ! Ed Hoffman has been discredited , even his own father said he invented things happening prior to this event . Are we going to go thru all 10,000 contructs conjured by conspiracists for a quick buck ? Just curious because there all lies .
cdddraftsman 4 years ago
Yes, ok very good. I just wanted to mention how silly it is to think "they" set-up Oswald shooting from the back, but then actually shot JFK from the front. What fucking moron conspirators could be so stupid as to shoot the victim from the WRONG DIRECTION, after going through all the trouble to make it look like it came from the back? It's just ridiculous.
marksesl 4 years ago
To : marksesl "JFK was already hit even before the lapel"
They are reacting to the gunshot that missed the limo completely at Z-160 . The lapel flip is when the shot goes through both men . No question or else JBC's thigh bone would of been broken by CE-399 . See Book Kennedy & Lincoln by Dr. Lattimer .
cdddraftsman 4 years ago
To: cdddraftsman "They are reacting to the gunshot that missed the limo completely"
Yes, I tend to agree that's possible. The only persistant problem here is that JC does not show any personal reaction to being shot until frame 213, about 18 frames after JFK was struck behind the sign.
marksesl 4 years ago
To : marksesl "about 18 frames"
That's one second ? Hardly a persistent problem . That is most likely a slight delayed reaction . Many see the start of a dropping of his right shoulder immediately after the lapel flip . It takes careful measurments to detect this .
cdddraftsman 4 years ago
To cdddraftsman "That's one second? Hardly a persistent problem." Ok, it all seems plausible. There doesn't seem to be a better explanation. JC and his wife say there were only 3 shots. Now, what about the bullet they found embedded near the top of the windshield. I've seen pictures. Where did it come from? What about the deaf mute who claims he saw a shooter behind the gk fence? Any info on this stuff? I've been there, by the way, to see things first hand.
marksesl 4 years ago
To : SCGATOR2001 "I'm not disloyal"&"Polls"
Sorry for that remark but this isn't some damn popularity contest . The truth doesn't have a requirement that someone has to believe in it or else the earth would be flat . Is the earth flat SCGATOR ?
cdddraftsman 4 years ago
John and Jackie are already responding to the shot in frames 206 and 207 where they are clearly looking directly at one another. And, as they emerge, Jackie is showing more concern by cocking her head to the side. JFK was already hit even before the lapel on Conelly puches out (assuming that is what is even happening).
marksesl 4 years ago
Connally at Z224 is responding to a bullet fragment, NOT to a shot to his back. Connally is raising his arms which you see him do as he turns to his LEFT (Z231), then he starts the broad turn to his right to look at JFK. The turn takes in excess of 5 seconds when Connally is shot in the back at Z325, .7 seconds AFTER JFK head shot! The biggest lie in history, the single bullet theory.
SCGATOR2001 4 years ago
Sorry, I was mistaken. JFK is looking stright ahead in frame 207, Jackie is however looking at him, which may indicate he was already in distress before going behind the sign.
marksesl 4 years ago
Actually frame 205 does show Kennedy looking directly at Jackie and then looks stright ahead again in frames 206 and 207. Jackie continues to look at JFK before during and after emergence from the sign. I believe this tends to show Kennedy was hit before Connally.
marksesl 4 years ago
SCGATOR2001 is a asshole agitator who has a one track mind that is all conspiracy ! He's a D U N C E who is disloyal to his country and should be committed to a conspiracy coo-coo clinic for wanna-be conspiracists !
cdddraftsman 4 years ago
NO, I'm not disloyal, I served as a military officer. I understand that a country such as ours cannot survive with a black mark such as this murder of a President . Polls have shown 80% of American believe there was a conspiracy, and they're right. The only thing left to be worked out is the details of how LBJ killed Kennedy. And we really need to get Hoover's name off the FBI building in Washington.
SCGATOR2001 4 years ago
To : SCGATOR2001 "I'm not disloyal"&"Polls"
Sorry for that remark but this isn't some damn popularity contest . The truth doesn't have a requirement that someone has to believe in it or else the earth would be flat . Is the earth flat SCGATOR ?
cdddraftsman 4 years ago
To : noeuro "interview with Connally"
JBC also said he never saw JFK get hit , thats why he turned in the other direction . That alone destroys your destroying of Meyers work . The SBT Lives because it ROCKS ! Yaaa !
JBC also said he never believed there was a conspiracy and that the movie JFK was EVIL !
Try blowing that out your rear end ! Hahahaha !
cdddraftsman 4 years ago
Wait Wait Wait. Before you all turn Dale Myers into The Man. Do your research on him and his BS Cartoon!
ctka . net / dale . html
risicofyeo 4 years ago
To : risicofyeo "Do your research"
I have and he's 120% rock solid and your bs site I flushed years ago as being run by hair brained a-holes !
cdddraftsman 4 years ago
Dale Meyer shows that indeed Connally and Kennedy were hit from the same bullet. This is something I didn't believe before but it's very obvious here.
newenglandvideo 4 years ago
The problem with your conclusion about Dale Meyers conclusions is that many of his ASSUMPTIONS are simply not true. When you first see JFK, his hands are already being raised to his neck. He reacts BEFORE Connally. What happened? JFK was shot before Connally by the second shot, the shot after they emerge from behind the sign is the third shot. JFK of course was hit in the head after this with the 4th shot, Connally was hit by the 5th shot.
SCGATOR2001 4 years ago
No. Connally was hit at the same time that Kennedy was hit. And if you see the video on a dvd you see Connallys Jacket push out from the bullet.
newenglandvideo 4 years ago
The jacket bulges out because Connally raises his arm in response to a bullet fragment, not a bullet to his back. Look at Z223/224, you first see JFK's hands which are already being raised to his neck. How did JFK respond FASTER than the bullet? How did Connally turn in the next 4 seconds to look over his right shoulder with a bullet through his body? The simple answer is he wasn't shot in the back until later. Physics tells us exactly when that is. Johnson/Hoover killed him.
SCGATOR2001 4 years ago
Johnson killed him? Oh brother. Get some help guy.
nesnman 4 years ago
In an interview with Connally, he says that first he looked over his right shoulder in response to hearing gunfire - which he does. THEN, the turns to look over his left shoulder. This is when he said he was hit, like a punch from behind. So Connally's own testimony destroys this video interpretation.
noeuro 4 years ago
Look at my story on FREEREPUBLIC, search for Connally (EXPLAINING THE SHOOTING..) Connally was shot in the back less than a second AFTER President Kennedy was hit in the head. The frames of the Connally head snap down when he was hit in the back is at the bottom of that story. Questions, just ask!
SCGATOR2001 4 years ago
Wrong , wrong wrong ! All done for your own self glorification . Those days are finished ! .........tl
cdddraftsman 4 years ago
To : noeuro "interview with Connally"
JBC also said he never saw JFK get hit , thats why he turned in the other direction . That alone destroys your destroying of Meyers work . The SBT Lives because it ROCKS ! Yaaa !
JBC also said he never believed there was a conspiracy and that the movie JFK was EVIL !
Try blowing that out your rear end ! Hahahaha !
cdddraftsman 4 years ago
Dale Meyers is bang on , there's no question that he's brought the coon skin hat home and nailed it to the wall . As far as SGGATOR2001 goes , second rate , bottom shelf and low brow . Earl Warren is my senior citizen action hero of the week !
cdddraftsman 4 years ago
How are you going to handle it when the single bullet theory is going to be proven to be the single biggest BS story in history? Connally was shot in the back O.7 seconds AFTER the fatal head shot to JFK. Just sit back and listen, the story is coming!
SCGATOR2001 4 years ago
I'm not searching for anything you bunkabilly hillbilly ! Take your .07 seconds and shove it where the sun don't shine ................tl
cdddraftsman 4 years ago
The bullet doesn't have to go thru the lapel to make the lapel flip up . Put on a jacket and try it yourself by pinching a portion to the right and below the lapel , if you get it just right the lapel will flip up as u pull fast on the jacket . I suggest also you relocate your headquarters away from your hindquarters , there seems to be some interference with how you think ! .........heheheh !
...................tl
cdddraftsman 4 years ago
Governor Connally was NOT struck in the back at the time Meyer and the Warren Commission say, he was hit in the back at Z=325, a shot fired 0.7 seconds AFTER the fatal head shot to JFK. Look at Z=223, JFK already has his hands up when the bullet supposedly hit Connally. It didn't happen like Meyer says.
SCGATOR2001 4 years ago
Your type of opinion , used as fact , for the past 44 years is bunk . All it leads to is to feather the pockets of conspiracists and causes national angst for no reason what so ever , Thats the good news ! The bad news is that what was thought to be conspiracy theory's based upon science is likened to creationists who use psuedo-science :
cdddraftsman 4 years ago
Take a look at my article on FREEREPUBLIC, search for Connally and read. You have to realize that a 1960's lie is no match for today's technology. Once you know beyond any doubt that the solution is simple, then either the investigators were the biggest idiots in history, or the fix was in. Put it another way, Lincoln said you can fool some of the people ALL the time.
SCGATOR2001 4 years ago
Well then you apparently took it , hook line and stinker because I wouldn't believe anything you have to say because your brainwashed ! Or did a damp sponge suffice ? The WCR is a ' Beacon of Truth ' and they got it right ! You Can Take My Word To The bank On It ! .........tl
cdddraftsman 4 years ago
Well, I don't use pseudoscience for anything. We can both disagree about the WCR and talk about sponges and brainwashing, or you can read my article on when John Connally was shot in the back. It's really pretty simple to prove beyond any doubt what really happened, if you have any questions, ask, I'll be glad to explain it to you.
SCGATOR2001 4 years ago
I'm sure you don't , that's why the critical community in this Nation has 63 different assassins , firing from 12 different locations , upwards of 10+ shots . All mutually exclusive of each other , Obviously a impossibility since this assassination only could of happened one way . I don't even need to hear your explaination , I've been involved for 30yrs. and I know as a fact your wrong . No question in my mind , without even looking ! .........tl
cdddraftsman 4 years ago
To quote a fantastic analogy: "YOU"RE PICKIN' GNAT SHIT OUTTA PEPPER!"
Ignore the fact that the closest eyewitnesses (cops, limo occupants) give accounts that blood, brain and bone fragments were thrown both forward AND rearward.
That's two fatal head shots, almost simultaneously struck. But, go ahead, focus on a lapel flapping in the breeze, if you need some kind of lie to help you sleep at night.
duhCider 4 years ago
at frame 222 his lapel is also flaps to the inside, 223 it goes back, 224 is flaps again.
koplamp 5 years ago
Connally's jacket is moving only because Connally is raising his arms in respons