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  • I think the Space Race arrived too early, much of humanity wasn't ready (mentally, emotionally, geopolitically or economically) to think seriously about our species branching out into space.

    It's probably still too early, our leaders and the nations of the world are far more concerned with terrestrial issues (especially with economies and armed conflict)

    maybe by the mid to late 21st century, our species will truly have space colonies and begin, in earnest, our voyage to the stars.

  • Nice video but space colonization revealed itself as an utopia because the environment out there is too hostile and too expensive to reach from Earth.

  • @JulianGardna yes the environment is hostile but we can easily do away with an hostile environment in space with our current technology. Too expensive you say? Did you know that the current war in iraq spent TWICE as much as NASA received IN TOTAL since it formed 53 years ago? Don't tell me that its too expensive to go to space because that's just false.

  • @sniped101 first of all current technology doesn't allow humans to live outside low earth orbit because without the Earth's magnetic field, there's not known pratical way to shield astronauts for a long time.

    Secondarily we have the technology to populate Antarctica but only scientific bases exist there.

    Last but not least, wars are sadly profitable economically and politically: space colonization isn't.

  • I blame the government(s)

  • 70's people looked up to the stars.

    Today's people look down to their ipods.

    I miss the future, we've been robbed :-(

  • @KikoBarahona idk.. every now and then i look up at the sky and just amazed.. no doubt in my mind that we could have had a cure for cancer,had a space station in space and anything else we wanted to do. Hell, even the god in the bible said "nothing can stop them (us) if they are working together, not even me" so he comes down here and confuses our language. If only we could just follow the simple golden rule... ah well, hopefully my children will have it better.

  • @KikoBarahona don't be a cynic. go watch spacerip's youtube channel and research Burt Rutan. There are more people doing this today than back then.

  • @KikoBarahona well said indeed

  • Guess fighting wars over borders, fossil fuel and religion was the better, more progressive idea...

  • There's probably some of these out there and we just haven't been told about them

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  • I wouldn't taking out the money from the military and social programs and putting it on this wonderful en-devour.

  • we could spend money on space exploration but we spend it on advancing technology within the realm of earth. if we divide resources we can still expand technology as well as colonize space. both at a relatively steady pace

  • really sad that this is the best space colonization youtube

  • it amazes me that we are pissing money on wars and nuclear weapons rather than ensuring the ultimate survival of our species, the stupidity of our species continue to bemuse me

  • brought to you by the Venture Brothers

  • At 1:52 is "The Matter Sling." The future ain't what it used to be !

  • Besides asking" WHY?"..... it's almost certain this thing would be hit by space debris at some point.

  • "...and we increased carbon dioxide levels a little bit so the plants can grow a little faster..."

    so for our today's fearmongering about how deadly and evil human-generated carbon dioxide is, doh

  • @nervosaur

    Wow, you're an idiot. Carbon Dioxide is good for PLANTS, not humans. The "increased levels" were in the growing areas.

  • @misterobvious well, YOU ARE an idiot or a very well acting impostor. You like breathing? Then you'd bloody better appreciate plants and what's good for them or you can bloody well start thinking on an alternative way of feeding the atmosphere with oxygene. The more carbon dioxide, the more plants, the more oxygene. Are you f... retarded not to understand this?

  • @nervosaur

    Speaking of bloody retarded...

    Arguing with you is like trying to bloody teach a bloody pig to dance...

    You only waste your bloody time and annoy the bloody pig...

    learn how to bloody spell the word "oxygen" and MAYBE someone will take you bloody seriously, Einstein.

    Maybe you should bloody well know what the fuck you're talking about, or what you're actually responding to, before you open your bloody piehole.

  • @misterobvious Is there so much blood for a reason?

  • Once upon a time, Americans thought their government could do things that were worthwhile.

  • Seriously, fuck the market.

  • Well, that didn't work out quite as planned.

  • Sad. I remember being in grade school during the Apollo/Skylab days, when my friends and I were inspired to study science and math because we wanted to be part of this future. What inspires kids now? "Learn science and math, kids, and someday you'll have the opportunity to make some CEO even richer than he is now."

    Check out "The High Frontier" by Gerard O'Neill and "Colonies in Space" by T.A. Heppenheimer for more on these types of colonies.

  • fuck it man lets do it

  • @multiplemes101

    right, lets do it. I have a hammer.

  • @wing2912 And i have my rivet gun! and my welding equipment!

  • Needs more JOHN MADDEN

  • 0:36 mass effect's citadel

    

  • He's wearing sunglasses because he was high... Could we have built this in less than 30 years? Sure, if everyone shared the vision and poured our resources into it unselfishly - but unfortunately that's not how we roll here on the planet that I'm from... definitely the highest address at 4:09...

  • Intro music reminds me of Dharma Initiative music!

  • What does he say at 3:46? Laboriation points?

  • @djchristian82 LaGrangian Points L4 and L5

  • It looks like an old Dharma video.

    "This is station 11, The Colony."

  • So they build these things on the Moon, but not in hunger-country's around Africa?

    Beats me...

  • @fullbartender

    The plural of "country" is spelled "countries". You should learn to spell and use correct grammar before you attempt to make a point about anything. And yes, we should explore space regardless of what's happening on Earth. We may even find solutions to our domestic problems by doing so.

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  • So just because my English grammar is flawed, I am not allowed to make objective comments?

    2'nd: I am a hundred percent for space exploration, my point was that NASA's technological researchers say they can provide self sustaining agriculture systems that can feed up to 10 000 ppl (2.45)..but we still haven't found a diplomatic way to provide self sustaining food supplies in poor COUNTRIES like Ethiopia.

    Stop looking for grammar flaws and try to read between the lines..retard

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  • @fullbartender

    There, that's better. Why didn't you just state your point the first time instead of typing some barely inteligible fractured sentence? I agree with your point now that it's clear. Maybe you don't care for spelling but it seriously undermines your credibility if you ignore it. Heh, "retard". Oh the irony.

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  • Well beaming energy down to earth part they got right!

    

  • i question the validity of this particular video's authenticity.

  • What pisses me off the most is that people look at this and think "heh heh heh, stupid 70's people!", when in actual fact WE are the dumbasses for not building this motherfucker. Space stations are badass, and so was the space shuttle. Fuck you if you think any differently!

  • @Zebonka The space shuttle was horrendous. There were millions of space vehicles a lot better than it.

  • Sure it was. I'd like to hear your informed opinion as to why it was horrendous - and I'd like to see just 5 of your 'millions' of superior vehicles. I bet I'd get a chuckle out of it.

  • @Zebonka The Saturn V and the N1 superior to the space shuttle in production costs, fuel costs, and carrying capacity. China's new Long March rocket, although it carrying capacity is only 1/3 of the Space shuttle's its projected launch costs are much less. The planned Ares I rocket carried the same amount as the Space shuttle also, but due to its design it was cheaper. The only argument the space shuttle has going for it is the fact that its "reusable" but in the end its much more expensive.

  • If you want to talk about expense, that's something else - but if the worst that you can say about it is that it's more expensive, then it's no bad thing. Given the obscene defense budgets of our spacefaring nations, I don't think anyone can say with a clear conscience 'we shouldn't piss money away on space missions'.

  • @Zebonka I also have to agree that defense budgets are ridiculous. If we're talking about the USA, I'm completely for the withdrawal of all US forces oversees (this includes the "private army" we keep in germany, and south korea). I would much rather see us revert to a super capitalist, non-interventionist state. At the same time, at the rate things are going I think the only foreseeable future in space colonization will be private space exploration, in other words corporations.

  • @armeg35 i cant say i agree with your rather "ron paul" methods in dealing with progress. many of humanities acheivements were done through massive government efforts in order to subtisize and incentisize things that private corporation are unwilling to risk the resources to do. there has to be a raise in technocracy in government in order to force them to realise that overpopulation is a serious problem and space habitates are a solution

  • @powereater The reason corporations are unwilling to risk resources on space is because there used to be no incentive in space. Now with the discovery of Helium-3 on the moon, and water corporations may become interested in the mining of it. Additionally there are several private conglomerates designing space elevators (they are currently held up by our lack of ability to form carbon nanotubes in long chains) to reduce the costs of getting into space ten fold.

  • @armeg35the idea tha private corporations can somehow just 'take over' is somewhat misplaced. i understand the role of corporations in the DEVELOPEMENT of certain industries but major INITIATIVES have mostly been taken by goverment and nations. inventions such as gunpower, the Internet and even nylon stockings were all government efforts that has been greatly expanded upon.

    i agree that corporations will want to get into space industries, but nations and goverments must kick the door open.

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  • @powereater What about the industrial revolution, modern medicine, and the creation of the automobile? Look both sides have kicked open doors, and if we had a massive surplus of money in the government I would love to see that being used on science, but in our current state we don't have extra money thus we can't do these things.

  • @armeg35 I understand and i see your point quite clearly and agree with the vast majority of them. i also agree that the capital spent fighting for our current resources would be better used to expand beyond our planet and look for new ones. but if i continue further i risk expanding a discussion on a science video into a political debate. thank you for this great discussion

  • @powereater You too man, it was nice having an actual discussion about this topic with out it devolving into a name calling slam fest.

  • @Zebonka if i knew this second that we were building a space station.. i would switch my degree and become an engineer overnight.. until then, mmeeeeddd schoool... fuck.

  • @Zebonka they are kind of stupid to expect the idiots in charge right now to do this stuff. DUMB ECONOMY!!!!

  • @Zebonka right on! agree 100 percent with you

  • The public got bored with the moon shots and Nixon needed the cash for the Vietnam war, so he shutdown the apollo programme.

  • There's nothing worthwhile on the moon so there's no point.

  • @shiridenovo Other things in the universe exist besides the moon, the asteroid belt is a good example. There are millions of tons of precious metals to be found there. If investors had any idea of how filthy stinking rich they could get from mining asteroids, people would be begging NASA for money instead of the other way around.

  • In a parallel universe this most likely would exist.

  • Since when is there aluminum on the lunar surface?

  • Just think, if we had sane priorities and didn't put military adventurism above everything else, everything this video talked about would have been possible. 

  • Cuando el hombre creía que podía construir él sólo una nueva Tierra, fuera de la Tierra. No en el futuro cercano, al parecer.

  • oh well no more space shuttle program... we are broke and throwing big rocks on earth is more important than exploring the stars apparently

  • Built by the year 2000? Once again, we see the differance between being able to develop a concept within our technological means, and actually FINANCING it. LOL! If it's not politically profitable, nobody puts up the cash.

  • I was LIEEEEEED TO

  • sadly, never to be

  • We could have built 10 of these things if it weren't for all the money the world has pissed away on wars since this movie was created.

  • @youtubasoarus Hail Satan

  • @youtubasoarus, we could have terraformed mars with the money we piss away on wars. We could even have colonized other systems.

  • NASA couldn't afford to reproduce these airfix models.

  • l4 and l5. Awesome news.

  • our culture is to materialistic! They rather spend money and give it to some pop singer or football star! That is very sad!

  • Hmm if it ever existed I would sign up for it

  • We're going to take the next 200 years living up to the expectations of the 70's.

  • What happened(to stop space expansion) was that anti-science people realized that if they settle space, then people can escape the mind control of anti-science religion. People realize that if funded, others go and not them; that's why this type of stuff doesn't get built! Untill nanotech is developed enough, we won't be building space colonies or starships of any kind.

  • 0:37 It is the year 0079 of the Universal Century. A half-century has passed since Earth began moving its burgeoning population into gigantic orbiting space colonies. A new home for mankind, where people are born and raised. And die.

  • The Shuttle really set us back because it didn't cut cost like we thought it would and we were left to maintain it for so long.

  • If the space shuttle didn't cost a billion dollars a launch, or need months of check up time...

    This could be a reality

  • I think it will take an emerging power like China or India to have the balls to colonise space. We are too fat and comfortable too take the risk now.

  • a cold war ended

    b 90s energy crisis

    c terrorism

    d 2000s economic and banking crisis

    e No need to have it when you first have to solve some food and energy issues locally...

  • The space shuttle set us back more than 30 years.

    If riding the bus costs 10 times more than buying your own car, no one would ever rid it.

    Common sense yet nasa still ain't able to own up to that one.

  • @MikDonsen wow u must be smarter than all of NASA's intel. 

  • @LordKaisen It's not about being smarter, it's about being able to be honest. Nasa isn't able to own to basic truths because it's more socialist ironically than the soviet union. They had the shuttle draining on their budget for 30-40 years, and it ended up being far more expensive than anything the russians ever built, even though they had about 10times the budget/knowledge to do it.

  • I am only 16 years old.

    ...Do you guys think I will see anything like this in my lifetime?

  • @LithuanianLabas yes, think, my freind.You and me are alike I think the same thing, I am only 14 years old,you will see this in your old age however, by that time we will move on to other solar systems. Think how far we progressed from 1950 to 2011. From giant computers to handhelds that are just as fast and faster!!! If the Alpha Centauri solar system contains an inhabitable world , the World would get their so fast that you would be amazed. So yes my freind you will see this.

  • @LithuanianLabas

    Unfortunately... no

  • @LithuanianLabas You will see the return to the moon, which will be between 2015 to 2020. And later the human landings on Mars. I don't know exactly what year that will happen. But just to say, this fall NASA will launch 'Curiosity' one of the most ambitious projects NASA has ever done. it costed NASA more than 2.3 billion dollars to built. It will be one of the most scientifically advanced rovers ever. And it will launch this fall. Surely you will see that.

  • @LithuanianLabas you're more likely to find out what quantum leap and the equalizer are then seeing this happen.

  • we're so far behind in space technology ...FUCK.....it pisses me off ....what are we waiting for eh? lol :P

  • Space is just too difficult to conquer properly.

  • @HUDHomeSecrets yeah it will take till 2500 to really go to Earth like planets and who knows maybe life itself.....

  • 0:35 Is that the Citadel?

  • The fundamental question in the 21th century is to sustain and preserve the fundamental platform for space colonization safe: The Earth

  • @Hadsmagen Gay......

  • Cute!

  • ! 1980: WTF happened? 1990: progress in satellites, 2000: knowledge of the universe is much greater, 2010: detailing our knowledge of our solar system, i.e. conditions on the planet etc. 2020: Back to the moon??? 2030: Bases on the moon?? 2040: Mars??? 2050: 10% of speed of light??? 2100: Alpha centauri probes??? come on!! I want to go to space before i get really old. -.-

  • A great idea forgotten. we need this now with all the craziness here on the planet and over population . Lets get started! we' re already 11 years behind ! : (

  • So many people are dissapointed that space exploration hasn't come so far.

  • voice of richard johnson...... really?  i didn't know ol' Dicky Dick was a rocket scientist! hyuk!

  • Yea this one guy conceived the idea first, yea... right.

  • this is 2010 and the only thing we build is crisis in peoples pocket money... :p

  • @sappiou 2011! :p and we can still build sh*t less cool than this.

  • now i know how the japaneese got their concepts for their gundam show

  • Watch China do it 

  • @TheChymaera Agree,

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  • if only the cold war had lasted

  • What happens if something goes wrong, fires and etc? Also there is no atmosphere to burn shit up and protect it.

  • your 10 years late

  • its 2010 i want it nowwwwwww

  • Space is groovy!

  • Read the Book: "Colonies in Space" by T.A. Heppenheimer. ISBN 0-446-81-581-0.

    They were ready to have these colonies--but I suspect that the military had concerns about the habitats turning into rouge states

  • @Archangel72467 I have this book--the paperback that I bought in the 70s. I once saw the hardback with the color--wish I had that. Beautiful dream, but other things became more important I guess--tax cuts, wars, military spending. And also I think we lost our collective imaginations, as well as our ability to share a vision for a project that would not benefit us directly in our lifetimes.

  • @DandAinTac I just finished this book i picked it up used. Man was it inspiring we gotta do something to reinvigorate this project it really is the mankinds only salvation.

  • This idea was used on the Gundam anime series in Japan. Too bad that it's not reality...yet.

  • i would of went if the dam place existed, imagine what would happened if nasa continue after the moon.

  • Looks like they want to play casino games in space

  • What ever happened to G. O'Neal? I have 2 of his paperback books, (1st edition). As a teen, I was fascinated by this idea.

  • Wait, they never said what all those people were supposed to be doing up there. Does it take 10,000 people on-site to operate the future-hubble or what?

  • Looks like the Satellite of Love, ROFL

  • Far Out Man!

  • we could have done this, instead we have put our focus on this puny planet of ours and pretended it is everything known to man. WE SHOULD STILL TRY THIS!!!

  • oh hey it's 2000! WHAT NOW BITCH! lol jk budget cuts

  • why is this not build?

  • @TheSibek

    Government.

    Manned Space flight has been the exclusive domain of Government for last 49 years and this has caused stagnation. Fortunately that is about to change as privately owned companies like SpaceX will probably orbiting crews in the next few years.

  • @chuckpcr

    Because private industry didn't do anything to get into space. It still hasn't done anything to prove that it's definitely going to get into space. Government is proven, private is not, and the government should not stifle its efforts; private should up theirs.

    Government should exist along with private industry in space exploration, but its the latter's fault for not getting into it.

  • Sounds all good and happy until reality hits you like a freight train.

  • 2:00 WTF???

  • crazy white people will murder

  • lol now everyones saying stuff like "we could be back on the moon by 2020...well see

  • You call that 70's style? I didn't hear any Deep Purple "Space Trucking", dammit.

    Great, just great... these idiots were planning on going 1/4 of a million miles into outer space and were going to live on a giant freak'n Las Vegas Roulette Wheel

    You talk about taking a gamble! It's a good thing Star Trek was discontinued. Otherwise, they might have actually started heading out there if their inspiration wouldn't have been foiled

  • It doesn't require a genius to figure it out... there are some kinda, half-ass necessary things. If there isn't any air, water & food... then we're not meant to live there. Death Valley is more hospitable during a midsummer heatwave... and it's name is "Death"!

  • @Chuichupachichi

    Here's your comment, 1903 style: "we don't have wings and s**t, we're not meant to fly!" Keep up the productive thinking.

  • @AlexandruUrsachi

    Oh thank you... I will continue with the "productive thinking". Lets see, once again, I will not manufacture a "straw man". Its simply too easy to win when you argue against yourself. Not to mention that simply the mere thought of it makes me feel like a self beguiled fool

    I didn't say; "we don't have wings and s**t, we're not meant to fly!"

    I said; "If there isn't any air, water & food... then we're not meant to live there". "Flying" is irrelevant

  • @Chuichupachichi

    Flying isn't irrelevant in the context of your "we're not meant to..." argument. This is not a straw man. Are we "meant" to fly? No. Are we "meant" to swim, or dive under water? No. Of course, living in an extraterestrial environment is 1000 more difficult with today's technology. But that still doesn't imply that we shouldn't do it someday if and when we're ready, based on the argument that we're not meant to do that.

  • back in the 70`s they didnt know usa would pass through economic crises, thats why they had so many optimistic predictions

    if thinks continue going on like this we will see chinese colonizing mars before americans

  • Also the Challenger disaster, which pretty much killed our spirit for a while there. :( I was a little kid then. I mean, imagine- Battlestar Galactica (the original series), Star Wars and Start Trek reruns were my thing. NASA and the dreams of space were my hope, and then Challenger blew up. I cried for days. :(

  • boy were they wrong about the year 2000

  • actually the 60's was the real deal....the 70's were a tail ....60's had sears roebuck...great service...they could have gotten to Mars...the 70's were rust, the 80's neon...the 90's flanel...2000's candles...the 60's were TNT...with a little bit of purple kung fu...mixed in...

  • they haven't started this yet due to their being little financial gain, but space flight is increasing in efficiency and lowering its costs all the time, will be well within our life times

  • sad he havent done this yet

  • gundam colony

  • that totally happened

  • Yeah, remember back in 2000 when 10,000 people started living in space... Crazy times, those were.

  • It just shows how much shit they talked back then and how stupid people were, we were supposed to be flying around in flying cars

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  • No, the quality would remain the same regardless.

  • Anyone press the "HD" button to watch 70s' video like i do?

  • hmmm Darvin award?? :D

  • lol yes

  • actually repubblicans spent more money on the space program.

  • its called the space station

  • all this by 2000. WTF happened?

  • Public lost interest and the US government cut funding for maned space exploration once they were established as the leaders in the space race. Even with the current ongoing work on returning to the Moon, it's not going to happen for at least 10 years (and that's the most optimistic estimate). Furthermore the so called lunar base is going to be more like a lunar trailer park. Still I guess it's a step in the right direction.

  • Obama

  • @ffpilot23

    Vietnam and Space Shuttle.

    Vietnam distracted attention and funding, and caused economic problems that led to space ventures being cut back.

    The Space Shuttle (originally supposed to work along with the Saturn V as the LEO to the V's extra-orbital and heavy lift) kept us stuck at LEO, and because it was so limited, killed any grand visions and NASA got really, really boring.

  • What happened is that the Space Shuttle SUCKED!

  • @JasonDamisch Yes, as evidenced by its 30 years of service...dummisch.

  • @JasonDamisch Huh? The Space Shuttle wasn't in charge of directing NASA operations.

  • @JasonDamisch i like purple.

  • @JasonDamisch no, we didn't care to invest in it.

  • @ffpilot23 Good question, and I believe multiple answers. Can you imagine how people would freak out over the taxes? People go apeshit if a lot of money is spent on rescuing their own economy and building roads and bridges and healthcare. As a people, our highest priority is spending our wealth on the military and war. We just don't have the long-term vision, or even the concept of a common good to help motivate us we may have once had. We are the generation of we CAN'T, we MUSTN'T even try!.

  • The German nazi scientist died

  • @ffpilot23 Politicians happened. -_-