If you wiped out 99% of the population then that 1 percent is in a risk of extinction. You are going to need a bunch of reproduction to keep the human race alive
A VP society will have neither money nor government, two elements of the NWO. This is a typical Alex-Jones-ish hysteric confusion where everything that can be characterized as "global" is uncritically associated with the secret money-based order, to which the VP is radically antithetical. It's ironic that supposedly anti-NWO people are trying so hard to debunk what could be the biggest enemy of the NWO itself.
First of all, the venus project is a technocratic system that is designed like Atlantis and the name Venus has occultic importance. They elite, as far as I know, want a technocratic society where the machines take care of everything. Scientist have always promised us a futuristic utopia in the past that never showed up. Don't buy in to it, it'll just get infiltrated by the elite again.
@isidro975 he named it venus coz its located in venus valley, florida. ohh wait now ur gonna tell me that florida is an occultic name as well??. from fully automated restaurants in germany, japan. pharmacy automated dispenser, 3D printer which 'prints' an entire bicycle, GPS guided harvester for fully automated farming,completely automated concrete blocks,manufacturing,servicing of vehicles.Fact.! They never showed up? Probably cozz u never actually looked into it.
corporations rule the world right now, the zeitgeist movement and venus project want to get rid of the very thing that gives those corporations power, money, without money, no cyclical consumption, planned obsolescence, unnecessary labor and mountains of waste. simple as ABC
i love what the idea of the illuminati has done, I will AGREE with you before hearing what peter joseph had to say i was all for bringing the illuminati/NWO down, but you have to sit back and realize the zeitgeist movement is talking about the bigger picture, the NWO and illuminati are nothing without money, and in these videos Peter proves that Money is nothing more then debt, If you havnt seen the videos and made an assumption based on this shit, please take the time to enlighten yourself.
@SiYanara The focus on the NWO is to get the masses to demand and work for the venus project type life. This is about Agenda 21 and the restriction of human beings to an automated,controlled existence that will be not much more than life in a people zoo. Go look up Agenda 21 and see how it fits with Peter Josephs ( not his real name) concepts of "sustainable". I want to bet that he, like so many others, is on the Rockefellar payroll. Chasing leads seems in order.
ZEITGEIST is the BIG IDEA = NWO = inovations in the empire = highly scientific fascist autocracy. The perfect slave is the one who think he's free (people will love it)
The three pillars of the empire; vatican-spiritual, washington-militar, london-economic.
Jesuit scientists of the pontifical academy of science decided that the old religion is outdated, no longer compatible with revolution in military affairs.
TRANSCENDENTAL EMPIRICISM new age religion = atheism, compatible with science.
@OrgonVpH7 God forbid should we live in a society where our every whim is attended to by technology, I think its an unlikely idea, but a fucking great one, and regardless of venus projects plausibility, the critique of modern capitalism they provide is spot on!
I have to say that since TZM has been almost officially ragarded as a conspiracy theory itself (just read it in wiki), it's kinda funny how ppl rage over other conspiracy theories against TZM.
if zeitgeist and the venus project were the NWO , then why did the elite contrive THE WORLD BANK??? WHY ????? why are they pushing for global currency?????
you think the elite would ever give up their money power system???? NEVER in a MILLION YEARS....they can NOT control us without CURRENCY
fuck this video, and fuck the little punk shill that posted it.
Why didn't anyone tell me I was NWO??? You'd think TVP or TZM would let me know these things after having been learning about them for the past couple of years.
oh i see, so because in a picture the sun is being displayed it immediatly means that the venus project is nwo. lame, i was hoping for a more convincing bullshit video.
But Venus people have at least one thing right - the concept of the world based on 'having' instead of 'being' should be replaced as it's the real root of all eveil we're dealing with. Whole concept of 'resource based economy' is great imho, but lacks scientific data to support it. I have a feeling that we're nearing some sort of change, and at the same time are not ready for it, as we're wasting too much time for wacky theories, whereas the truth lies right before our very eyes.
The thought pattern presented in this video is garbage. Some people get into the symbolism so deep that it turns into the form of paranoia. J. Maxwell is one of them. A lot of what he says is truth, mixed with dubious and false creating a pseudo-intellectual mambo-jumbo for paranoid people. As per Venus Project - Fresco has it's own share of incompetence, as he's preaching something without really knowing how it's supposed to work, basically having done none scientific experiment for his vision
NWO is what we have rite now. The Venus Project it quite the opposite to that and it will never come into place as long as we have polititians and the monetary system we have today. NWO loves money and power, not the opposite.. no money no power and no means so they can fukup other peoples lifes.
@kaxitaksi Read my comment on this video, you are quite far off from the truth. The plan is very deep, very complex, and very deceiving. Beware who you listen to. The majority of people speaking the 'truth' out there, are dis-informative New Agers. If you believe the NWO is what we are living in right now, then you believe exactly what they want you to believe. There is a lot of NWO propaganda out there, posing as the truth. Becareful what you listen to and read.
" We must emphasize that this form of global governance has nothing whatever in common with the present aims of an elite to form a world government with themselves and large corporations at the helm, and the vast majority of the population subservient to them. Our vision of globalization empowers each person on the planet to be the best they can be, and to not live in subjugation to a corporate governing body"
@kaxitaksi Thanks for that, it's already been thumbed up a million times above.....Please read my comments again and try to understand what I mean. The New World Order is not what we have been lead to believe. The whole corporation, money, political dominance idea is propaganda for them to reach their goals. Its a communist socialist New World Order, with the New Age religion at the centre of it. The Venus project is a blueprint as such, for the world they wan to create. And they are.......
@TheZackarios Don't think so.. They play into systems which can be twisted to their ends, that doesn't make the system and its creators or proponents ONE OF THEM!! We have a real issue with environmental degradation, but that whole moevment is being corrupted by AGW nut jobs being paid by NWO Elite.. Doesn;t mean everyone preaching for a cleaner environment and an end to pollution is with them..
seriously - if there is anyone who wants the whole world and has every nation in their pocket, they must be the stupidest mfers in the world. There is only one thing that connects the world governments. I'm sorry to say, our brains are connected to the sun just enough to make a very narcisistic modern man think they have the inside on all. The sun is the source of our life and thoughts. The virtue and badnessness is earth made and seperates us from an easy ride.
you could show these people a rorschach ink blot and they wil find NWO symbolism. for all the finger pointing they do what viable alternatives do they present? Nothing.
The venus project is actually a very good platform to form the NWO, but aren't we supposed to be bothered about the people? If the content of zeitgeist addendum cannot be used as a start and venus project offered as a solution to people's minds, i am afraid if there are any other ways to bring the big change in people...i mean..if its only right to tell them the whole story, i dont think there is much hope.
We live in the physical world, present day. All this talk about symbolism, mythicism, communism, socialism, capitalism, monetarism was created by man to control you. Wake up people, the elite will protect the establishment by all cost because they are the ones who prosper. They are this so called nwo, there monetary sytem has created the ill society you see today. 37,000 people die everyday from hunger. 1 billion in poverty around the world. Time to remove the wool from your eyes.
Peter Joseph is a neo-commie. Although he sees through the NWO fraud, his solution is nothing more than a repackaged version of communism. Money will always exist, whether the government outlaws it or not. People will always trade with one another, and barter isn't an option in most transactions. A universal medium of exchange (money) is required.
But, I don't mean our government should borrow money for us that's produced by a private banking cartel (NWO/Federal Reserve), at huge interest!
@The34gl3, then Fresco's world is a fantasy world, because nobody ever could or would share everything with everyone. For example, how could someone share his eyeglasses with you if he needs them at all times to see?? Are you capable of imagining countless other examples?
@BRYAN351 On the other hand I can share a car, a washing machine, a television, music, clothes, etc. There are few things we need ALL the time. And sharing is a word derived from the notion of possesion.
@BRYAN351 maybe if you took at least 2 hours of your precious time, to actually research the venus project website thoroughly, you can gain some insight of how a resource based economy works. Man has created boogie men like the nwo to scare you. The real nwo is the elite ones in government and too big to fail banks & corporations. Their monetary system has created the sick society you see today. War, crime, poverty, and hunger are results of the monetary system. We Cant sustain this much longer
@creamone, again, the banksters' fraudulent monetary system is NOT the only monetary system there is. Publicly created, debt-free money, which was the cause of the Revolutionary War, Lincoln's assassination, and JFK's assassination, would free mankind from the NWO's tyranny, and money would be our servant instead of our master.
What you need to do is devote 3.5 hours of YOUR time and watch the documentary "The Money Masters: How International Bankers Gained Control of America" in my fav's.
@BRYAN351 You just said it, money should be our servant, instead it's our master. You are admitting that money is the root of our problems. It doesn't matter about the history of how that came to be. The reality is that the monetary system path of corruption, greed, and destruction is already leading us to hardship. The Venus Project at least is pointing out the root causes of this global hardship. Everybody wants to talk about history. Great lets learn from history and make change.
@BRYAN351 well as long as you have greedy people you will always have conflict. Ted Turner take pills now because his head is screwed up. Parinoid people run the world. I know quite a few my self, they talk trash in there business, then you see them out in public and they act like they never seen you before. I'm happy living in a very small area, also we throw out a billion dollars worth of food each year in this country, United States is a Corporation.
I'm afraid that some of us who know what the NWO is get stuck in a loop of perpetual paranoia. We get so caught up in the darkness that we become afraid of every single effort to climb this seemingly insurmountable mountain of the current system of control through fear, war, greed, indoctrination and materialism.
bollocks ZEITGEIST knows exactly what they are doing they use the right eye as an anti illuminati symbol because the illuminati use the left eye. and WHY DONT PEOPLE START FOCUSING ON THE REAL ILLUMINATI LIKE THE POEPLE IN POWER RIGHT NOW. YOU KNOW THE GOVERNMENT DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
true enlightenment is knowing oneness, therefore bringing harm on another is the same as bringing it on yourself. in tragic irony, many have, out of paranoia brought on by the shadowy alleyway of conspiracy theories, learned to reject a cure to the sickness which some ignorant motherfuckers have perpetuated, and I don't think it's accidental. let's fight against the old world outlook. no one seems to consider the chance that the real misinformation agents are those which cause us to fear change.
I find it amazing that all those who attempt to "debunk" the Zeitgeist movement or the Venus Project can never do so without unsupported claims. This video is a perfect example. The Zeitgeist Movement and Venus Project are probably the most anti-NWO movements out there. To say that they are part of a NWO conspiracy is just a lie.
How about you people go read J. Fresco's Books before you think he is part of NWO!! I mean jesus people! Venus Project is against having government! The people in a resource based economy dont need to be governed. It's like you people watch 1 youtube video and your suddenly against something that you know nothing about. Read "The Best that Money Cant Buy" by Fresco. I bet you wont call the Venus Project NWO related after that. Im not saying the NWO isnt real, just saying V.P isnt part of it.
The poster of this video is not educated, not enlightened, and is paralyzed by his ignorance and intolerance. You cannot find truth if you don't know where to look. For you to make this assumption, you show incredible bias, and, well your a product of some kind of establishment that has you fearing government and control. You're probably a conservative, in a black hoody. You're intolerant of progress.
Read more books, gain intellect. This is nonsense, funny half voters disagree, well done, ass.
Ive tried real hard to figure how the NWO elite would use the Venus Project to their advantage.
I thought about it before i actively promoted the Venus Project, and I still come up with the same answer:
No possible way that any elite group would give up their monetary power for human equality. No possible way to control people in a society where everyone is educated to any extent they desire. No possible way the VP is NWO.
VP is obvly a cunning deception put up by the World Order's so- called elites Ha ha Venus is called the "light bearer" planet since it crosses the Orion constellation and briefly becomes the "Torch of the Hunter" By the way, did you know the etymology of lucifer? Luci fer Lux pher, (Greek) light bearer ENLIGHTENMENT ILLUMINATION! VENUS PROJECT! The sheep must yet go... they're waiting for you.
So what reason would Peter have for putting this symbolism in the movie? Just for kicks?
"We COULD keep the whole 'kill the poor and replace them with machines' agenda a secret, OR we could put an abstract symbol that hints at it into one of our films for no other purpose than own enjoyment. Yeah. Sweet."
@raiyankhan an electronic currency? your telling me that little number on the screen is really going to hold any value. Digital currency is more worthless than monopoly money, at least you can hold that paper! What happens when they want to take taxes and you don't pay? oh no problem we will just deduct it form your digital account. ya thanks but no thanks. No why would the 5 % who hold 95 % of the worlds wealth care about their money being a little less powerful, when its all said and
@raiyankhan Nwo wants to create panic and then show you a "solution". And i think that electronic control(nwo) and cybernetics ( venus project) are related.
" We must emphasize that this form of global governance has nothing whatever in common with the present aims of an elite to form a world government with themselves and large corporations at the helm, and the vast majority of the population subservient to them. Our vision of globalization empowers each person on the planet to be the best they can be, and to not live in subjugation to a corporate governing body"
How can the NWO (or any other group) control people, when it is the very basis of the social system's design, to educate/inform every single human to their request, free of charge?
You cant control people like the NWO would desire to, if they have free education and no laws binding them to certain aspects of society. The ONly way the NBWO will get away with their plans, is if we have laws and money, and limitations or restrictions.
@hackz111 Don't you get it? The New World Order isn't about corporations and money controlling the masses. That is the Old World, the world they have set up in order to get rid of. They aim to create an entire new world, and entire different civilization that will not look like the world we live in today. They are trying to collapse civilization, and through this bring about population reduction in the process, possibly through world war three. Then we will want to do away with the old world of
@hackz111 religion and money and political systems. They will present a saviour to us, and we will gladly accept that saviour with his ideas aims and plans for humanity. The New World Order will be born out of the will of the masses to accept it, with the occult satanic New Age religion at the core of the entire structure, in which we will have been lead to believe is the truth, and enlightenment for humanity, entering into this fake shift of consciousness and a new world for humanity. DECEPTION
So because they have an image of the rising sun they are 'NWO'? My grandma painted a sunrise the other day, maybe she's NWO.
The Venus Project is the application of the scientific method to societal concern, through the intelligent management of the earth's resources, in a resource based economy. It's more efficient, morally conscious, and stable than our current system. The only faith they exhibit is in peoples' ability to get the logic of it, perhaps that is their only failure. I hope not.
It's communism. They deny it by comparing their ideals with Past communist parties. Totally irrelevant. It shares the exact same conclusion of communism. Just because they say there will be no currency and an abundance of good technology doesn't change that fact. RObots can't do everything..people will still have to work. It will never be equal. There will ALWAY be a demand for prostitution. Are they gonna make robot whoes too? lol
@InFromTheVoid You're right. We can put up with all the poverty, corruption, misinformation and injustice in the world, just as long as we have prostitutes.
I love how they took some random photo of a guys hands in front of the sun, and automatically jump to the "ITS NWO, CRUSH IT, KILL IT AHHHH!!!!!!!!" conclusion
Your a faggot buddy, have some self respect. Venus project is not nwo. That's like saying oranges are really a loaf of bread. Fool yourself all you want and keep walking towards that edge if you want.
Venus project is a form of new world order. Its the definition retard. And its a play on marxism, the belief in no individual rights in regard to property. So its slavery dressed up to look good.
It has to be NWO order! Just cause they r against of the bankers who have manipulated the world into slavery; just because they r against government which has been used 2 create the false sense of security + freedom 4 the whole world + just because they r against money, which the whole "bottom line" + "profit based culture", I still think that we should go back 2 the way it used 2 b. Just Us, the land + baby jesus.
this man JORDAN MARWELL HAVE FRIENDS GRADE 33 MASONIC, is lie. is hoax. jordan marwell is a mother fucker. jordan no is anti-nwo. he say the nwo is good. this man is a liying isis - ra - el ? jajajaj rá god, el, god, isis, god jajaj
so because someone showed a picture of the rising sun in a documentary all of a sudden "its da fucking illuminati".
seriously symbols are used by more than just elitists, and just because you guys dont use them doesn't mean others cant. your bitching at symbolism and how it relates to royal famalies as much as yo say the elites bitch at the masses, ur no different
the mother of theosophy, which is being promoted by zeitgeist, Helena Blavatsky is said by jordan maxwell being a big influence on his ideas. like a dear friend of his was, 33rd degree mason manly p. hall
okay so... anyone got any ideas how to make the world a better place? cuz... if Zeitgeist and The Venus Project arent legitimat... you better have solutions or your disputes wont hold weight.
these guys are scared of the competition. people are tired and they're looking for answers and these nwo conspiracy theorists are threatened by the Venus Project and any other philosophies out there.
you really havent looked into the venus project have you? and just a question, what are you going to do and all you alex jones fans after you beat the nwo and end the fed and so on? you will still be in the same monetary system and same society and it will just happen again, it has to, the society demands it
lol. i think it is jordan maxwell who is the one working for the nwo. He fails to tell people that the rising sun is an ancient symbol used by paganists. The illuminati use these ancient symbols that belonged to paganists, which long ago belonged to the kaballah.
the venus project is not the nwo shut up. venus project calls for intellectual revolution, human and social evolution. nwo just wants to keep us as slaves.
Sorry - but you are very wrong! Venus Project is codename for the Lucifer Project and is the idea of the ruling Illuminati oligarchy. Only they have the resources and wealth to pull such a massive project off. What they don't tell you though is they will microchip everyone and hold them in these covered cities as slaves to them. Families are to be outlawed and children will belong to the state. Certain chosen women will be used as breeders. Men as we know them will cease to exist.
Yes,... those NWO scum! Despite having the best ideas to save the planet from the chaos that it's currently in, at least if we lock them up no-one will be drawing sunsets anymore!
because it is quite dreary. Zeitgeist addendum was the first movie that really woke me up even then my first thought was,. I joined forums etc. But when I progressed in the knowledge It really did start to look more and more like the illuminati themselves going for the on world order . and then obama, he fell right in the time. I mean after watching Z. i really was a obamazomb. '' he will safe the W. Earth 2 obama etc. ''
Yeah, my question was about the argument that Z. might be somewhat of a technocracy filled deception that's purpose is to bring people into believing a repackaged communism/marxism . I mean the argument's that suggest Yes's and No's .
Watch this first please, and of course note the point's.
I'm not going to try to go through all the points that conspiracy theorist Alex Jones is making, but I'll comment on his quote from video 2: "someone isn't going to want to design a new computer or design a new algorithm or an idea or a new phone system if they can't quote sell it".
This is a very flawed statement. People do things based on motivation (fun, profit, love, boredom, etc). There is so much that Alex doesn't seem to consider, and is just trying to prove his point.
I really don't perceive that as an argument in any way shape or form, to use 1 quote and that's the end of it, it's ridiculous, I expected an intelligent argument.
Since I am not a climatologist I can only tell you what the large majority of climatologists say in polls, which is "Yes". It seems over the long term (50-200 years) there is global warming, but not in the short term (last 5 years). Google "global warming climatologist poll". Wikipedia seems a good source of info.
Peter Joseph Goebbels luciferian nazi. All that new age zeitgest VP ecologist (genocide) legendary movies and music wide world one hand controlled economy stuff is about put a british mesianic global dictatorship with the best and bigger propagandistic campaign ever sold. YOU WILL LOVE IT! If not smart.
If people actully read the Bible they woudn't need some one to tell them what it says or what it ment to say! Not to mention the Bible says what the Bible means to say not what some one thought it said.
I read it and i don't find the part where the Bible says what the Bible means. Are you peaple so stupid that you can't detect the circular logic and keep using it over and over again?
Jorden maxwell lies to those who don't know much of religion,sun worship has nothing to do with the Bible the catholic church has everything to do with sun worship. The ten commandments are to save man in the after life not save man here on earth that is up to man! The Bible clearly states that GOD wil not help man, we are free to make are own mistake's. GOD is not the sun and Jesus is not the sun either the Bible sais he is the son.
This anti venus project soldier is trying to make any association he can to make it look like a cult called new world order. Neither the zeitgeist movement nor the venus project is using the sun to symbolize itself anyway! Despite how irrelevant this association is as even stated in the interview everyone knows the sun is important and the sun is seen as an object of great power. Also the swastika was not a nazi invented symbol and is ironically a symbol in religion against evil. 1 star 4 u
noname7913, Kartraith, IsThatEasy, AND THE ORTHER Brainwashed naive followers of the elite's movements i Give u all 0 stars for be not able to accept the truth
You prove a point Mr. Duck and Cover. (look it up) If anyone tries to control other people for power we can take them out anyways. Just like we should've done a long time ago. Truth be told IDK anymore, humanity is screwed and we can all burn in the invisible man's invented hell. Rights don't exist, and we need to stop waiting for god and government to change everything. You're all as immature as children hoarding toys shouting "MINE!" and religion saying we need to be saved.
well... the guy is pretty much spot on with everything he said, the symbol is used global wide in all cultures and ( apparently ) in Bavarian freemansony .
but what has that to do with a photo used by peter from a stock photo website ?
The idea of The Venus Project is a total 180 from the so called NWO, since TVP promotes freedom by ending the corruption that the monetary system brings, and the end of servitude to anyone.
Lol, I guess we should be afraid of Tibetan Monks and the Dali Lama, lol. Is anyone really afraid of Tibetan Monks and the Dali Lama? If you are than give me a thumbs down showing your fear of Tibetan Monks and the Dali Lama. If not give me a thumbs up.
A 90+ yr old man that spent his life traveling, learning and educating people, who's vision goes directly against the people in power is a front man for the NWO. LMAAAAO. The people in power have billions of $'s. One would think maybe they would spend some money to support & promote the Venus Project since it's the NWO they want. LMAO. Also u can be inspired by someone to start something and it can take on a life of it's own that is very different from where you got the inspiration.
With the age of information, it's easy to look up.
NOVOS ORDO SECLORUM =New Order of the Ages which is often mistranslated as New World Order. So now I know it's real meaning and the fake one that people think it is lol. Which one did you think it was?
So, I am not sure what you post is tryin to get at. Before I take a stance, clarify your position.
The answer to the question is simple. Peter wants to achieve a new age of enlightenment. Sounds pretty reasonable. You can over generalize him in with some elite New World Order, or you can see he's trying to help.
What a coincidence that a man who is so well educated on the matter would chose NWO symbolism to create a movement that is "trying to help".....meanwhile he's thoroughly DESTROYING people's faith in their creator, and causing them to worship themselves....hmmmm.....sounds like nwo new age self worship to me...not to mention the sun worship symbolism and ideology... also zeitgeist exposes NOTHING NEW... it's an obvious u just have to step outside of your belief system for a second and see it
Which is healthier for future generations; taking care of the planet, or sitting around and waiting for Christ's judgment?
And the symbolism is an artistic expression of illumination or enlightenment, associated with a philosophy, rather than one all encompassing elite plot.
Why can we not take care of our planet and believe in God at the same time? You think that Christianity is a bunch of people "sitting around waiting on Christ's judgement" ? WOW....... I have news for you...some of the biggest and most active charities, homeless shelters and environmental groups are CHRISTIAN OWNED AND OPERATED....so much for your theory that Christians "sit around"..... more than 60 percent of the globe is christian BECAUSE WE DON'T JUST SIT AROUND.....we SHARE love and truth!
It all comes down to what people find more important, and the venus project propose that peoples lives and health on earth is more important than any diety worthshipping.
How many religions are there?
Wich religion preach the truth?
shuld we all turn christian, muslim, hindu or what?
Just the fact that you KNOW that he is "trying to bring about a NEW AGE of ENLIGHTENMENT"... and then WENT ON to call them "some elite new world order"....shows that you are not familiar with freemasonry and illuminati (ENLIGHTENED ONES) or "the elites" belief systems...because if you were familiar with their beliefs you would SEE that the VENUS PROJECT IS THE SAME AGENDA! It is simply the "one world religion" of self-deification that will go along with the one world government...research...
It wasn't the Zeitgeist movement I was calling the elite New World Order. I was saying it wasn't. That's an example of a generalization based on some similar notions. See Zeitgeist movement doesn't want a one world religion, but the elite does, and is pushing for one as we speak. And it probably IS going to be under some "new age" or "new world" guise, but it won't be the same as the Zeitgeist movement/Venus Project. There's many movements right now.
Like Jordan Maxwell is among a group of "New Agers" who preaches that a planet is gonna come zap us with some kind of electro-magnetic wave or something in 2012. Peter Joseph and I are both fans of Jordan Maxwell's words and research, but I don't see any evidence of this planet he's talking about, and I think he might be a little bit of a nutter. I have a feeling Peter's on the same page with me on that one since I haven't heard him say anything about 2012 or planetary collisions.
From ChelevSaRa - "but the elite does, and is pushing for one( one world religion) as we speak. And it probably IS going to be under some "new age" or "new world" guise"..... So if you KNOW THIS....consider this....you say they are RIGHT NOW pushing their one world religion right? Well what is the largest, fastest growing and most pushed "new age" movement right now?... Venus Project ... Look how many views zeitgeist clips get (like rfid segment)...name another NWO clip that has 7 mil views...
Zeitgeist has a good amount of views, but that doesn't mean there's anything sinister about it. It's basically unknown to the majority of the public anyway. If you walk up to some random person in public and ask if they've even heard of it they'll probably hand you a handkerchief, and say "gesundheit!" I very rarely meet anyone outside of the internet who's ever even heard of it.
"I very rarely meet anyone outside of the internet who's ever even heard of it. "....... There are ALOT of people "in the internet" ....alot of people "outside of the internet" also haven't even heard of the New World Order either...they aren't concerned with those people...they are targeting the people who ALREADY know about them or who are freshly finding out about them, the MOST.... makes sense doesn't it...the cat gets out of the bag so they poison it....
A person who knows absolutely nothing (0) zero about the Illuminati is of no concern to them. They will go like sheep to the Army Forts or the FEMA camps and be gassed or guillotined to death just like they have planed.
It worked in 1939 to 1943 for the 3rd Riech and it will work in 2009 to 2011 for the NWO madmen.
We have to inform millions and millions more about them, but with the Media gagged and in their pocket it is/will be difficult.
EXACTLY.....THEY ARE TARGETING PEOPLE WHO ALREADY KNOW ABOUT THEM OR ARE JUST FINDING OUT ABOUT THEM...with zeitgeist..........that's exactly what I was saying.....i'm agreeing with you....
Circulateyourfreedon: What really worries me is the friends I have who look at me with a blank stare and ask me a question like: What are illuminati? What is a FEMA camp? What are Chemtrails? What swine Flu? Whats the 'One World Government ' mean? What is the LCC? (Lucifer's Cain Clan) And a couple even asked me why I talk about 911. Up here in Canada it's a phone number you dial for help in case of fire or accident or a robbery or a shooting.... Same in the US I believe.
Please explain this to me, and I am not trying to defend religion I realise what can be done in the name of it! Why is it that people such as yourself attack christianity over and above anything else without focusing on the fact that the religion of the elite is spiritualist/new age/occult and that most "christianity" is pagan/esoterically derived ie Christmas/easter, what about the fact we have astrology in the form of star signs in our papers in 2009 or should I say 6009
I'm not going to attack something as much if I don't know as much about it - and unsubstantiated conspiracy theories about something don't really do much for me.
Anyway, I'd rather take down a big bully, than some annoying little twerp who can't tie his own shoes.
Friend, Im not asking for a fight rather an explanation. You said you wont attack something as much if you don't know as much about it.That is logical but perhaps you should know more about it..you go on to try call me a conspiracy theorist, the implication being nothing I say can be proved and my opinions are based in paranoia and faith- nothing could be further from the truth. If you think the Obeliesks, Diana temples or even crosses are Christian then it is you who has unsubstatianted beliefs
An explanation is what you wanted, and an explanation is what I gave you. I wasn't trying to fight you. I was just explaining why I focus more on Christianity as opposed to other divisive religions.
If you wiped out 99% of the population then that 1 percent is in a risk of extinction. You are going to need a bunch of reproduction to keep the human race alive
TheCaptainjuicy 1 month ago
A VP society will have neither money nor government, two elements of the NWO. This is a typical Alex-Jones-ish hysteric confusion where everything that can be characterized as "global" is uncritically associated with the secret money-based order, to which the VP is radically antithetical. It's ironic that supposedly anti-NWO people are trying so hard to debunk what could be the biggest enemy of the NWO itself.
mirandansa 4 months ago
First of all, the venus project is a technocratic system that is designed like Atlantis and the name Venus has occultic importance. They elite, as far as I know, want a technocratic society where the machines take care of everything. Scientist have always promised us a futuristic utopia in the past that never showed up. Don't buy in to it, it'll just get infiltrated by the elite again.
isidro975 8 months ago
@isidro975 he named it venus coz its located in venus valley, florida. ohh wait now ur gonna tell me that florida is an occultic name as well??. from fully automated restaurants in germany, japan. pharmacy automated dispenser, 3D printer which 'prints' an entire bicycle, GPS guided harvester for fully automated farming,completely automated concrete blocks,manufacturing,servicing of vehicles.Fact.! They never showed up? Probably cozz u never actually looked into it.
4no11 7 months ago
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@isidro975 ''elite, as far as I know, want a technocratic society where the machines take care of everything.''
Wrong! Elite refers to a privileged group who's power might be physical, intellectual and/or financial
The elite want enslavement of people. that can only be done by maintaining a capitalist economy.
Currently technology has the potential to free humans from 90% of the jobs. That is no where even remotely close to physical or financial enslavement.
4no11 7 months ago
Technology is the training wheels of what we will organically be able to do.
ArtsAlign 8 months ago
corporations rule the world right now, the zeitgeist movement and venus project want to get rid of the very thing that gives those corporations power, money, without money, no cyclical consumption, planned obsolescence, unnecessary labor and mountains of waste. simple as ABC
dachozen109 10 months ago
WHY DONT YOU STOP WASTING YOU TUBE SERVER SPACE POSTING GARBAGE: IGNATE ASS
jayzeee12 10 months ago
The venus project is being used to trick truthers into falling into NWO plans under the guise of "truth"
kayokilledjack 11 months ago
i love what the idea of the illuminati has done, I will AGREE with you before hearing what peter joseph had to say i was all for bringing the illuminati/NWO down, but you have to sit back and realize the zeitgeist movement is talking about the bigger picture, the NWO and illuminati are nothing without money, and in these videos Peter proves that Money is nothing more then debt, If you havnt seen the videos and made an assumption based on this shit, please take the time to enlighten yourself.
SiYanara 11 months ago 2
@SiYanara The focus on the NWO is to get the masses to demand and work for the venus project type life. This is about Agenda 21 and the restriction of human beings to an automated,controlled existence that will be not much more than life in a people zoo. Go look up Agenda 21 and see how it fits with Peter Josephs ( not his real name) concepts of "sustainable". I want to bet that he, like so many others, is on the Rockefellar payroll. Chasing leads seems in order.
ancestralblue 11 months ago
Everything is bullshit. ZEITGEIST is the best idea ever.
DjFederalistah 11 months ago 2
ZEITGEIST is the BIG IDEA = NWO = inovations in the empire = highly scientific fascist autocracy. The perfect slave is the one who think he's free (people will love it)
The three pillars of the empire; vatican-spiritual, washington-militar, london-economic.
Jesuit scientists of the pontifical academy of science decided that the old religion is outdated, no longer compatible with revolution in military affairs.
TRANSCENDENTAL EMPIRICISM new age religion = atheism, compatible with science.
OrgonVpH7 1 year ago
@OrgonVpH7 God forbid should we live in a society where our every whim is attended to by technology, I think its an unlikely idea, but a fucking great one, and regardless of venus projects plausibility, the critique of modern capitalism they provide is spot on!
7CATALYST25 9 months ago
I have to say that since TZM has been almost officially ragarded as a conspiracy theory itself (just read it in wiki), it's kinda funny how ppl rage over other conspiracy theories against TZM.
Phersephoie 1 year ago
im confused he just agreed with zeitgeist? and has nothing to do with the venus project? miss leading title much?
TheFelixxRevolution 1 year ago
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Symbols are for simple minded.
samuelblacke 1 year ago
this is total BS
if zeitgeist and the venus project were the NWO , then why did the elite contrive THE WORLD BANK??? WHY ????? why are they pushing for global currency?????
you think the elite would ever give up their money power system???? NEVER in a MILLION YEARS....they can NOT control us without CURRENCY
fuck this video, and fuck the little punk shill that posted it.
irgo333 1 year ago
Why didn't anyone tell me I was NWO??? You'd think TVP or TZM would let me know these things after having been learning about them for the past couple of years.
FuManBoobs 1 year ago
These people are retarded.
MyOnlyFarph 1 year ago
oh i see, so because in a picture the sun is being displayed it immediatly means that the venus project is nwo. lame, i was hoping for a more convincing bullshit video.
ramp2tramp 1 year ago
But Venus people have at least one thing right - the concept of the world based on 'having' instead of 'being' should be replaced as it's the real root of all eveil we're dealing with. Whole concept of 'resource based economy' is great imho, but lacks scientific data to support it. I have a feeling that we're nearing some sort of change, and at the same time are not ready for it, as we're wasting too much time for wacky theories, whereas the truth lies right before our very eyes.
JJTechnologies 1 year ago
The thought pattern presented in this video is garbage. Some people get into the symbolism so deep that it turns into the form of paranoia. J. Maxwell is one of them. A lot of what he says is truth, mixed with dubious and false creating a pseudo-intellectual mambo-jumbo for paranoid people. As per Venus Project - Fresco has it's own share of incompetence, as he's preaching something without really knowing how it's supposed to work, basically having done none scientific experiment for his vision
JJTechnologies 1 year ago
maxwell should know.!
SovereignBeing 1 year ago
We don't need to get rid of money, just the zionist bankers that have monopolized its production and turned it into a form of usury.
abe2517 1 year ago
Jordan Maxwell seems a bit of a bullshitter.
TheVeganerd 1 year ago
NWO is what we have rite now. The Venus Project it quite the opposite to that and it will never come into place as long as we have polititians and the monetary system we have today. NWO loves money and power, not the opposite.. no money no power and no means so they can fukup other peoples lifes.
kaxitaksi 1 year ago
@kaxitaksi Read my comment on this video, you are quite far off from the truth. The plan is very deep, very complex, and very deceiving. Beware who you listen to. The majority of people speaking the 'truth' out there, are dis-informative New Agers. If you believe the NWO is what we are living in right now, then you believe exactly what they want you to believe. There is a lot of NWO propaganda out there, posing as the truth. Becareful what you listen to and read.
TheZackarios 1 year ago
@TheZackarios
" We must emphasize that this form of global governance has nothing whatever in common with the present aims of an elite to form a world government with themselves and large corporations at the helm, and the vast majority of the population subservient to them. Our vision of globalization empowers each person on the planet to be the best they can be, and to not live in subjugation to a corporate governing body"
Quoted from " THE BEST THAT MONEY CAN'T BUY"
By Jacque Fresco
kaxitaksi 1 year ago
@kaxitaksi Thanks for that, it's already been thumbed up a million times above.....Please read my comments again and try to understand what I mean. The New World Order is not what we have been lead to believe. The whole corporation, money, political dominance idea is propaganda for them to reach their goals. Its a communist socialist New World Order, with the New Age religion at the centre of it. The Venus project is a blueprint as such, for the world they wan to create. And they are.......
TheZackarios 1 year ago
@TheZackarios Don't think so.. They play into systems which can be twisted to their ends, that doesn't make the system and its creators or proponents ONE OF THEM!! We have a real issue with environmental degradation, but that whole moevment is being corrupted by AGW nut jobs being paid by NWO Elite.. Doesn;t mean everyone preaching for a cleaner environment and an end to pollution is with them..
malahidecobra 1 year ago
@kaxitaksi presenting it as the truth, and making the people believe in their idea.
TheZackarios 1 year ago
@TheZackarios Well kindly explain it in more detail how what you said is linked with the venus project?????
hackz111 1 year ago
seriously - if there is anyone who wants the whole world and has every nation in their pocket, they must be the stupidest mfers in the world. There is only one thing that connects the world governments. I'm sorry to say, our brains are connected to the sun just enough to make a very narcisistic modern man think they have the inside on all. The sun is the source of our life and thoughts. The virtue and badnessness is earth made and seperates us from an easy ride.
ihavestage4coolness 1 year ago
you could show these people a rorschach ink blot and they wil find NWO symbolism. for all the finger pointing they do what viable alternatives do they present? Nothing.
1200pro 1 year ago
The venus project is actually a very good platform to form the NWO, but aren't we supposed to be bothered about the people? If the content of zeitgeist addendum cannot be used as a start and venus project offered as a solution to people's minds, i am afraid if there are any other ways to bring the big change in people...i mean..if its only right to tell them the whole story, i dont think there is much hope.
lesperio 1 year ago
Oh brother, what a load of bullshit >.>...
IceC80 1 year ago
We live in the physical world, present day. All this talk about symbolism, mythicism, communism, socialism, capitalism, monetarism was created by man to control you. Wake up people, the elite will protect the establishment by all cost because they are the ones who prosper. They are this so called nwo, there monetary sytem has created the ill society you see today. 37,000 people die everyday from hunger. 1 billion in poverty around the world. Time to remove the wool from your eyes.
creamone 1 year ago
@johnsawyer1 omg...
The34gl3 1 year ago
Peter Joseph is a neo-commie. Although he sees through the NWO fraud, his solution is nothing more than a repackaged version of communism. Money will always exist, whether the government outlaws it or not. People will always trade with one another, and barter isn't an option in most transactions. A universal medium of exchange (money) is required.
But, I don't mean our government should borrow money for us that's produced by a private banking cartel (NWO/Federal Reserve), at huge interest!
BRYAN351 1 year ago
@BRYAN351 I don't think so bryan. I think in Fresco's system there is no trading - there is sharing.
The34gl3 1 year ago
@The34gl3, then Fresco's world is a fantasy world, because nobody ever could or would share everything with everyone. For example, how could someone share his eyeglasses with you if he needs them at all times to see?? Are you capable of imagining countless other examples?
BRYAN351 1 year ago
@BRYAN351 On the other hand I can share a car, a washing machine, a television, music, clothes, etc. There are few things we need ALL the time. And sharing is a word derived from the notion of possesion.
The34gl3 1 year ago
@BRYAN351 maybe if you took at least 2 hours of your precious time, to actually research the venus project website thoroughly, you can gain some insight of how a resource based economy works. Man has created boogie men like the nwo to scare you. The real nwo is the elite ones in government and too big to fail banks & corporations. Their monetary system has created the sick society you see today. War, crime, poverty, and hunger are results of the monetary system. We Cant sustain this much longer
creamone 1 year ago
@creamone, again, the banksters' fraudulent monetary system is NOT the only monetary system there is. Publicly created, debt-free money, which was the cause of the Revolutionary War, Lincoln's assassination, and JFK's assassination, would free mankind from the NWO's tyranny, and money would be our servant instead of our master.
What you need to do is devote 3.5 hours of YOUR time and watch the documentary "The Money Masters: How International Bankers Gained Control of America" in my fav's.
BRYAN351 1 year ago
@BRYAN351 You just said it, money should be our servant, instead it's our master. You are admitting that money is the root of our problems. It doesn't matter about the history of how that came to be. The reality is that the monetary system path of corruption, greed, and destruction is already leading us to hardship. The Venus Project at least is pointing out the root causes of this global hardship. Everybody wants to talk about history. Great lets learn from history and make change.
creamone 1 year ago 2
@BRYAN351 well as long as you have greedy people you will always have conflict. Ted Turner take pills now because his head is screwed up. Parinoid people run the world. I know quite a few my self, they talk trash in there business, then you see them out in public and they act like they never seen you before. I'm happy living in a very small area, also we throw out a billion dollars worth of food each year in this country, United States is a Corporation.
davewoodring 1 year ago
I'm afraid that some of us who know what the NWO is get stuck in a loop of perpetual paranoia. We get so caught up in the darkness that we become afraid of every single effort to climb this seemingly insurmountable mountain of the current system of control through fear, war, greed, indoctrination and materialism.
danisageeza 1 year ago
bollocks ZEITGEIST knows exactly what they are doing they use the right eye as an anti illuminati symbol because the illuminati use the left eye. and WHY DONT PEOPLE START FOCUSING ON THE REAL ILLUMINATI LIKE THE POEPLE IN POWER RIGHT NOW. YOU KNOW THE GOVERNMENT DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
micap20078 1 year ago 4
true enlightenment is knowing oneness, therefore bringing harm on another is the same as bringing it on yourself. in tragic irony, many have, out of paranoia brought on by the shadowy alleyway of conspiracy theories, learned to reject a cure to the sickness which some ignorant motherfuckers have perpetuated, and I don't think it's accidental. let's fight against the old world outlook. no one seems to consider the chance that the real misinformation agents are those which cause us to fear change.
strumr91 1 year ago
ugh, fuck this shit. once you start demonizing enlightenment i'm simply not interested. sorry.
strumr91 1 year ago
youtube does not let me vote anymore for some reason
did you have turned voting on comments off?
zer77o 1 year ago
I find it amazing that all those who attempt to "debunk" the Zeitgeist movement or the Venus Project can never do so without unsupported claims. This video is a perfect example. The Zeitgeist Movement and Venus Project are probably the most anti-NWO movements out there. To say that they are part of a NWO conspiracy is just a lie.
cnynghstmn 1 year ago 9
The arguments in this video proof absolutely nothing. It's pure speculation based on conspiracy theory.
TerraRubicon 1 year ago 5
VP = NWO = BULLSHIT MATE!
VP = Venus Project
NWO = the system you already live in.
Nuff said.
ViperRulesVLVForlife 1 year ago 7
@ViperRulesVLVForlife - if i could i'd vote this up a thousand times.
strumr91 1 year ago
@strumr91 =)
ViperRulesVLVForlife 1 year ago
How about you people go read J. Fresco's Books before you think he is part of NWO!! I mean jesus people! Venus Project is against having government! The people in a resource based economy dont need to be governed. It's like you people watch 1 youtube video and your suddenly against something that you know nothing about. Read "The Best that Money Cant Buy" by Fresco. I bet you wont call the Venus Project NWO related after that. Im not saying the NWO isnt real, just saying V.P isnt part of it.
aidenivy 1 year ago 2
The poster of this video is not educated, not enlightened, and is paralyzed by his ignorance and intolerance. You cannot find truth if you don't know where to look. For you to make this assumption, you show incredible bias, and, well your a product of some kind of establishment that has you fearing government and control. You're probably a conservative, in a black hoody. You're intolerant of progress.
Read more books, gain intellect. This is nonsense, funny half voters disagree, well done, ass.
HypnoticSuggestion 1 year ago
Ive tried real hard to figure how the NWO elite would use the Venus Project to their advantage.
I thought about it before i actively promoted the Venus Project, and I still come up with the same answer:
No possible way that any elite group would give up their monetary power for human equality. No possible way to control people in a society where everyone is educated to any extent they desire. No possible way the VP is NWO.
Sorry
Anubis7169 1 year ago
ishejeffwaters 1 year ago
@ishejeffwaters its called the venus project because jacque fresco lives in venus florida!!!!!!!
hackz111 1 year ago
its messed up because maxwell is a mason......there 's always a little truth a lot of distraction??????????????
daehder613 1 year ago
@daehder613 show me were you got this info from tha jordan maxwell is a mason?
hackz111 1 year ago
@hackz111
maxwell is a sun worshipper man
ishejeffwaters 1 year ago
GO MAXWELL!!
ratata4 1 year ago
What wrong with sun? :)))
TZMRussia 1 year ago
you are fucking ignorant!!!
drako132313 1 year ago
So what reason would Peter have for putting this symbolism in the movie? Just for kicks?
"We COULD keep the whole 'kill the poor and replace them with machines' agenda a secret, OR we could put an abstract symbol that hints at it into one of our films for no other purpose than own enjoyment. Yeah. Sweet."
crookedkid23 1 year ago
you guys are full of shit
amuletox21 1 year ago
frescos idea is to eliminate money altogether, the nwo is pushing for more global currency and making it electronic . how do you relate those
raiyankhan 1 year ago 64
@raiyankhan Right! The main motive for the NWO is money.
TheOmegaeyes 1 year ago
@raiyankhan an electronic currency? your telling me that little number on the screen is really going to hold any value. Digital currency is more worthless than monopoly money, at least you can hold that paper! What happens when they want to take taxes and you don't pay? oh no problem we will just deduct it form your digital account. ya thanks but no thanks. No why would the 5 % who hold 95 % of the worlds wealth care about their money being a little less powerful, when its all said and
polevaultrockstr 1 year ago
@raiyankhan done the little wealth we hold turns to nothing and their huge sums of money are still enough to do as they please.
polevaultrockstr 1 year ago
@raiyankhan, Check out this ,video : New World Order is NOW A REALITY
i recommend everyone to analyze it in order to understand the real panorama of the NWO coming economy
KchristianX 1 year ago
@raiyankhan Nwo wants to create panic and then show you a "solution". And i think that electronic control(nwo) and cybernetics ( venus project) are related.
DarelothJenkins 5 months ago
" We must emphasize that this form of global governance has nothing whatever in common with the present aims of an elite to form a world government with themselves and large corporations at the helm, and the vast majority of the population subservient to them. Our vision of globalization empowers each person on the planet to be the best they can be, and to not live in subjugation to a corporate governing body"
Quoted from " THE BEST THAT MONEY CAN'T BUY"
By Jacque Fresco
hackz111 1 year ago 49
@hackz111
Exactly
How can the NWO (or any other group) control people, when it is the very basis of the social system's design, to educate/inform every single human to their request, free of charge?
You cant control people like the NWO would desire to, if they have free education and no laws binding them to certain aspects of society. The ONly way the NBWO will get away with their plans, is if we have laws and money, and limitations or restrictions.
Anubis7169 1 year ago
@hackz111 Goddamn, well said, we are enlightened, together! Vote his comment up people!
HypnoticSuggestion 1 year ago
@hackz111 VP is only economically based right?
CrazyKing570 1 year ago
@hackz111 Don't you get it? The New World Order isn't about corporations and money controlling the masses. That is the Old World, the world they have set up in order to get rid of. They aim to create an entire new world, and entire different civilization that will not look like the world we live in today. They are trying to collapse civilization, and through this bring about population reduction in the process, possibly through world war three. Then we will want to do away with the old world of
TheZackarios 1 year ago
@hackz111 religion and money and political systems. They will present a saviour to us, and we will gladly accept that saviour with his ideas aims and plans for humanity. The New World Order will be born out of the will of the masses to accept it, with the occult satanic New Age religion at the core of the entire structure, in which we will have been lead to believe is the truth, and enlightenment for humanity, entering into this fake shift of consciousness and a new world for humanity. DECEPTION
TheZackarios 1 year ago
So because they have an image of the rising sun they are 'NWO'? My grandma painted a sunrise the other day, maybe she's NWO.
The Venus Project is the application of the scientific method to societal concern, through the intelligent management of the earth's resources, in a resource based economy. It's more efficient, morally conscious, and stable than our current system. The only faith they exhibit is in peoples' ability to get the logic of it, perhaps that is their only failure. I hope not.
Neanderthalcouzin 1 year ago
The venus project is more New world cult.
It's communism. They deny it by comparing their ideals with Past communist parties. Totally irrelevant. It shares the exact same conclusion of communism. Just because they say there will be no currency and an abundance of good technology doesn't change that fact. RObots can't do everything..people will still have to work. It will never be equal. There will ALWAY be a demand for prostitution. Are they gonna make robot whoes too? lol
InFromTheVoid 1 year ago
@InFromTheVoid You're right. We can put up with all the poverty, corruption, misinformation and injustice in the world, just as long as we have prostitutes.
/sarcasm
crookedkid23 1 year ago
Our NWO i LOVE. Any idea might be transform in many ways, it depent from people.
mikhasya1976 1 year ago
I love how they took some random photo of a guys hands in front of the sun, and automatically jump to the "ITS NWO, CRUSH IT, KILL IT AHHHH!!!!!!!!" conclusion
Anubis7169 1 year ago
Your a faggot buddy, have some self respect. Venus project is not nwo. That's like saying oranges are really a loaf of bread. Fool yourself all you want and keep walking towards that edge if you want.
onerizle 1 year ago
Venus project is a form of new world order. Its the definition retard. And its a play on marxism, the belief in no individual rights in regard to property. So its slavery dressed up to look good.
PairoftheSocks 1 year ago
yes because the establishment isn't at all. Because it's the Venus project you should be so worried about. LOL
onerizle 1 year ago
PROOF that Zeitgeist is NWO!!!
It has to be NWO order! Just cause they r against of the bankers who have manipulated the world into slavery; just because they r against government which has been used 2 create the false sense of security + freedom 4 the whole world + just because they r against money, which the whole "bottom line" + "profit based culture", I still think that we should go back 2 the way it used 2 b. Just Us, the land + baby jesus.
*Replace "PROOF" with "PURE IRONY".
hehehe
socratiz 2 years ago
this man JORDAN MARWELL HAVE FRIENDS GRADE 33 MASONIC, is lie. is hoax. jordan marwell is a mother fucker. jordan no is anti-nwo. he say the nwo is good. this man is a liying isis - ra - el ? jajajaj rá god, el, god, isis, god jajaj
wecanstopnwo 2 years ago
so because someone showed a picture of the rising sun in a documentary all of a sudden "its da fucking illuminati".
seriously symbols are used by more than just elitists, and just because you guys dont use them doesn't mean others cant. your bitching at symbolism and how it relates to royal famalies as much as yo say the elites bitch at the masses, ur no different
gninja92 2 years ago
What are you so afraid of?
Armenianofadown 2 years ago
the mother of theosophy, which is being promoted by zeitgeist, Helena Blavatsky is said by jordan maxwell being a big influence on his ideas. like a dear friend of his was, 33rd degree mason manly p. hall
ghana25 2 years ago
haha jordan maxwell a.k.a russel pine was afraid that he would also be exposed througout the zeitgeist movement.
ghana25 2 years ago
okay so... anyone got any ideas how to make the world a better place? cuz... if Zeitgeist and The Venus Project arent legitimat... you better have solutions or your disputes wont hold weight.
BestBefore111189 2 years ago
these guys have no solutions, their best ideas are to tell people and thats it
gninja92 2 years ago
absolutely, I couldn't agree with you more
BestBefore111189 2 years ago
This is make believe, The Venus Project is a reality.
NCVenusProject 2 years ago
1 STAR
sillymonkey8888 2 years ago
these guys are scared of the competition. people are tired and they're looking for answers and these nwo conspiracy theorists are threatened by the Venus Project and any other philosophies out there.
Hypnotron2006 2 years ago
you really havent looked into the venus project have you? and just a question, what are you going to do and all you alex jones fans after you beat the nwo and end the fed and so on? you will still be in the same monetary system and same society and it will just happen again, it has to, the society demands it
ROAHHHH 2 years ago 3
@ROAHHHH if the VP is the end goal of the NWO, how its described then im all for it XD
piporob2001 2 years ago
totally agree my man. VP is nothing even close to the NWO. ignore the alex jonesy supporters they are so close-minded
gninja92 2 years ago
Whats better, spending most of your time providing profits for some one or have more time to enjoy life.
sillymonkey8888 2 years ago
stop fucking fearmongering
the only way out is knowing yourself
and not doing what you think to be wrong.
industryterm 2 years ago
or is it.... dun dunn dunnn
michaeltheman8888 2 years ago
this 'symbol' is a very weak basis for an argument... btw jordan... the sun doesnt rise... the earth rotates...
BestBefore111189 2 years ago
lol. i think it is jordan maxwell who is the one working for the nwo. He fails to tell people that the rising sun is an ancient symbol used by paganists. The illuminati use these ancient symbols that belonged to paganists, which long ago belonged to the kaballah.
maximusTLP 2 years ago
yeah we are fucked no matter what. it's not fair if there is a god this garbage will not be going ahead.
16125911 2 years ago
HAHA!! I really hope nobody takes this seriously. Stupid people stop being so scared of the future.
Tyguywhat 2 years ago 3
venus project is not nwo it's anti nwo just not your version of anti nwo therefore it's NWO. It's obvious for any rational person to see.
PsykodelikCyoldier 2 years ago 2
exactly. these alex jones followers demonize those who disagree just like the neocons or neolibs do.
smokestackeroo 2 years ago 3
the venus project is not the nwo shut up. venus project calls for intellectual revolution, human and social evolution. nwo just wants to keep us as slaves.
Infectiousthought 2 years ago
Sorry - but you are very wrong! Venus Project is codename for the Lucifer Project and is the idea of the ruling Illuminati oligarchy. Only they have the resources and wealth to pull such a massive project off. What they don't tell you though is they will microchip everyone and hold them in these covered cities as slaves to them. Families are to be outlawed and children will belong to the state. Certain chosen women will be used as breeders. Men as we know them will cease to exist.
TheBestlaidschemes 2 years ago
lol wtf
lugia3 2 years ago
venus does mean lucifer - thats interesting - see how easy it is to miss stuff
timewilltell7 2 years ago
the research lab is in venus florida.
ROAHHHH 2 years ago
Thank you for pointing that out : )
Whell , we are nobody to predict that anything is going to happen or not going to happen for that matter.
Cherrypersonee 2 years ago
Note also that age can be referred to in the astrological sense of a large period of time.
Astrologically in 2012 we will be entering a new Age. I forgot which one exactly .
Cherrypersonee 2 years ago
Yes,... those NWO scum! Despite having the best ideas to save the planet from the chaos that it's currently in, at least if we lock them up no-one will be drawing sunsets anymore!
soberauer 2 years ago
I like your sarcasm :D
can you explain me more detailedly this matter ?
because it is quite dreary. Zeitgeist addendum was the first movie that really woke me up even then my first thought was,. I joined forums etc. But when I progressed in the knowledge It really did start to look more and more like the illuminati themselves going for the on world order . and then obama, he fell right in the time. I mean after watching Z. i really was a obamazomb. '' he will safe the W. Earth 2 obama etc. ''
Cherrypersonee 2 years ago
NWO is a conspiracy theory about a secretive society who, probably for selfish reasons, want to rule the Earth.
The Venus Project is a 93 year old inventor, who has spent more time than I've been alive trying to find solutions to the world's problems.
While The Venus Project believes in international co-operation being essential, as do I, it is the complete opposite of secretive and selfish.
soberauer 2 years ago
Yeah, my question was about the argument that Z. might be somewhat of a technocracy filled deception that's purpose is to bring people into believing a repackaged communism/marxism . I mean the argument's that suggest Yes's and No's .
Watch this first please, and of course note the point's.
/watch?v=EyQtN4HY4Ko&
/watch?v=-fv16-DftRE&
/watch?v=JR7ZfTmxBjE&
Cherrypersonee 2 years ago
I'm not going to try to go through all the points that conspiracy theorist Alex Jones is making, but I'll comment on his quote from video 2: "someone isn't going to want to design a new computer or design a new algorithm or an idea or a new phone system if they can't quote sell it".
This is a very flawed statement. People do things based on motivation (fun, profit, love, boredom, etc). There is so much that Alex doesn't seem to consider, and is just trying to prove his point.
soberauer 2 years ago
I really don't perceive that as an argument in any way shape or form, to use 1 quote and that's the end of it, it's ridiculous, I expected an intelligent argument.
Cherrypersonee 2 years ago
Do you believe in global warming my friend ?
Cherrypersonee 2 years ago
Since I am not a climatologist I can only tell you what the large majority of climatologists say in polls, which is "Yes". It seems over the long term (50-200 years) there is global warming, but not in the short term (last 5 years). Google "global warming climatologist poll". Wikipedia seems a good source of info.
soberauer 2 years ago
But the fact is that the global warming has nothing to do with co2 . i.e. co2 is not causing it. Man made global warming is propaganda
To tax and control our lives.
Do you believe vaccines are not harmful and do you think fluoride is good for your teeth ? Do you believe the 9/11 official story ?
Cherrypersonee 2 years ago
so please could you explain me something more about the ''Yes's and No's'' about the issue ?
Cherrypersonee 2 years ago
Peter Joseph Goebbels luciferian nazi. All that new age zeitgest VP ecologist (genocide) legendary movies and music wide world one hand controlled economy stuff is about put a british mesianic global dictatorship with the best and bigger propagandistic campaign ever sold. YOU WILL LOVE IT! If not smart.
supapawa 2 years ago
Wow they used a symbol, they must be NWO SCUM! You're a fear monger, this doesn't say shit about The Venus Project.
melopawn 2 years ago
Join thezeitgeistmovement com
mikhasya1976 2 years ago 3
If people actully read the Bible they woudn't need some one to tell them what it says or what it ment to say! Not to mention the Bible says what the Bible means to say not what some one thought it said.
acefourpair 2 years ago
I read it and i don't find the part where the Bible says what the Bible means. Are you peaple so stupid that you can't detect the circular logic and keep using it over and over again?
StatusDefault 2 years ago
Jorden maxwell lies to those who don't know much of religion,sun worship has nothing to do with the Bible the catholic church has everything to do with sun worship. The ten commandments are to save man in the after life not save man here on earth that is up to man! The Bible clearly states that GOD wil not help man, we are free to make are own mistake's. GOD is not the sun and Jesus is not the sun either the Bible sais he is the son.
acefourpair 2 years ago
the ten commandements was stolen from the egyptians laws its ben proven already...do research lol
flavor31 2 years ago
Forget the sun worship; what I do know is that VIRGIN BIRTHS, WALKING ON WATER, and RISING FROM THE DEAD are nothing but a load of steamy shit.
SirianKings 2 years ago
watch a video call New Age Movement Infiltration of Truth Movement
likezack 2 years ago
This anti venus project soldier is trying to make any association he can to make it look like a cult called new world order. Neither the zeitgeist movement nor the venus project is using the sun to symbolize itself anyway! Despite how irrelevant this association is as even stated in the interview everyone knows the sun is important and the sun is seen as an object of great power. Also the swastika was not a nazi invented symbol and is ironically a symbol in religion against evil. 1 star 4 u
noname7913 2 years ago 3
noname7913, Kartraith, IsThatEasy, AND THE ORTHER Brainwashed naive followers of the elite's movements i Give u all 0 stars for be not able to accept the truth
atravezdelaverdad 2 years ago
You prove a point Mr. Duck and Cover. (look it up) If anyone tries to control other people for power we can take them out anyways. Just like we should've done a long time ago. Truth be told IDK anymore, humanity is screwed and we can all burn in the invisible man's invented hell. Rights don't exist, and we need to stop waiting for god and government to change everything. You're all as immature as children hoarding toys shouting "MINE!" and religion saying we need to be saved.
noname7913 2 years ago
well... the guy is pretty much spot on with everything he said, the symbol is used global wide in all cultures and ( apparently ) in Bavarian freemansony .
but what has that to do with a photo used by peter from a stock photo website ?
tazmaniainc 2 years ago 2
The idea of The Venus Project is a total 180 from the so called NWO, since TVP promotes freedom by ending the corruption that the monetary system brings, and the end of servitude to anyone.
Kartraith 2 years ago
Lol, I guess we should be afraid of Tibetan Monks and the Dali Lama, lol. Is anyone really afraid of Tibetan Monks and the Dali Lama? If you are than give me a thumbs down showing your fear of Tibetan Monks and the Dali Lama. If not give me a thumbs up.
IsThatEasy 2 years ago 2
Apparentley, "they" set up the Free Tibet Movement to divide and conqour. I don't think the Monks are involved.......lol
22mpl 2 years ago
A 90+ yr old man that spent his life traveling, learning and educating people, who's vision goes directly against the people in power is a front man for the NWO. LMAAAAO. The people in power have billions of $'s. One would think maybe they would spend some money to support & promote the Venus Project since it's the NWO they want. LMAO. Also u can be inspired by someone to start something and it can take on a life of it's own that is very different from where you got the inspiration.
moety2 2 years ago 3
WHAT IS diferent , ? naive brainwashed fooled by the elite movements
Do you even know what does it means NOVOS ORDO SECLORUM ?
atravezdelaverdad 2 years ago
With the age of information, it's easy to look up.
NOVOS ORDO SECLORUM =New Order of the Ages which is often mistranslated as New World Order. So now I know it's real meaning and the fake one that people think it is lol. Which one did you think it was?
So, I am not sure what you post is tryin to get at. Before I take a stance, clarify your position.
moety2 2 years ago
that's right it's New Order Of the Age or ages is the same thing a New Global Order
Bush Father and Obama all of them call for a New Era or a New Age , ;: search with these words : obama new era Zeitgeist new age etc .
atravezdelaverdad 2 years ago
So are you implying the zeitgeist movement is the same thing the government is trying to implement?
moety2 2 years ago
Great and important Upload ¡
keep the good work and keep exposing their evil deceptions and manipulations
OverReal2Reallite 2 years ago
The answer to the question is simple. Peter wants to achieve a new age of enlightenment. Sounds pretty reasonable. You can over generalize him in with some elite New World Order, or you can see he's trying to help.
ChelevSaRa 2 years ago
What a coincidence that a man who is so well educated on the matter would chose NWO symbolism to create a movement that is "trying to help".....meanwhile he's thoroughly DESTROYING people's faith in their creator, and causing them to worship themselves....hmmmm.....sounds like nwo new age self worship to me...not to mention the sun worship symbolism and ideology... also zeitgeist exposes NOTHING NEW... it's an obvious u just have to step outside of your belief system for a second and see it
CIRCULATEYOURFREEDOM 2 years ago
Which is healthier for future generations; taking care of the planet, or sitting around and waiting for Christ's judgment?
And the symbolism is an artistic expression of illumination or enlightenment, associated with a philosophy, rather than one all encompassing elite plot.
ChelevSaRa 2 years ago
Why can we not take care of our planet and believe in God at the same time? You think that Christianity is a bunch of people "sitting around waiting on Christ's judgement" ? WOW....... I have news for you...some of the biggest and most active charities, homeless shelters and environmental groups are CHRISTIAN OWNED AND OPERATED....so much for your theory that Christians "sit around"..... more than 60 percent of the globe is christian BECAUSE WE DON'T JUST SIT AROUND.....we SHARE love and truth!
CIRCULATEYOURFREEDOM 2 years ago
It all comes down to what people find more important, and the venus project propose that peoples lives and health on earth is more important than any diety worthshipping.
How many religions are there?
Wich religion preach the truth?
shuld we all turn christian, muslim, hindu or what?
can you even see the dilemma?
mikrobluess 2 years ago
"I have news for you...some of the biggest and most active charities, homeless shelters and environmental groups are CHRISTIAN OWNED AND OPERATED"
Okay, good.
ChelevSaRa 2 years ago
Just the fact that you KNOW that he is "trying to bring about a NEW AGE of ENLIGHTENMENT"... and then WENT ON to call them "some elite new world order"....shows that you are not familiar with freemasonry and illuminati (ENLIGHTENED ONES) or "the elites" belief systems...because if you were familiar with their beliefs you would SEE that the VENUS PROJECT IS THE SAME AGENDA! It is simply the "one world religion" of self-deification that will go along with the one world government...research...
CIRCULATEYOURFREEDOM 2 years ago
It wasn't the Zeitgeist movement I was calling the elite New World Order. I was saying it wasn't. That's an example of a generalization based on some similar notions. See Zeitgeist movement doesn't want a one world religion, but the elite does, and is pushing for one as we speak. And it probably IS going to be under some "new age" or "new world" guise, but it won't be the same as the Zeitgeist movement/Venus Project. There's many movements right now.
ChelevSaRa 2 years ago
Like Jordan Maxwell is among a group of "New Agers" who preaches that a planet is gonna come zap us with some kind of electro-magnetic wave or something in 2012. Peter Joseph and I are both fans of Jordan Maxwell's words and research, but I don't see any evidence of this planet he's talking about, and I think he might be a little bit of a nutter. I have a feeling Peter's on the same page with me on that one since I haven't heard him say anything about 2012 or planetary collisions.
ChelevSaRa 2 years ago
From ChelevSaRa - "but the elite does, and is pushing for one( one world religion) as we speak. And it probably IS going to be under some "new age" or "new world" guise"..... So if you KNOW THIS....consider this....you say they are RIGHT NOW pushing their one world religion right? Well what is the largest, fastest growing and most pushed "new age" movement right now?... Venus Project ... Look how many views zeitgeist clips get (like rfid segment)...name another NWO clip that has 7 mil views...
CIRCULATEYOURFREEDOM 2 years ago
Zeitgeist has a good amount of views, but that doesn't mean there's anything sinister about it. It's basically unknown to the majority of the public anyway. If you walk up to some random person in public and ask if they've even heard of it they'll probably hand you a handkerchief, and say "gesundheit!" I very rarely meet anyone outside of the internet who's ever even heard of it.
ChelevSaRa 2 years ago
"I very rarely meet anyone outside of the internet who's ever even heard of it. "....... There are ALOT of people "in the internet" ....alot of people "outside of the internet" also haven't even heard of the New World Order either...they aren't concerned with those people...they are targeting the people who ALREADY know about them or who are freshly finding out about them, the MOST.... makes sense doesn't it...the cat gets out of the bag so they poison it....
CIRCULATEYOURFREEDOM 2 years ago
circulate..doM:
A person who knows absolutely nothing (0) zero about the Illuminati is of no concern to them. They will go like sheep to the Army Forts or the FEMA camps and be gassed or guillotined to death just like they have planed.
It worked in 1939 to 1943 for the 3rd Riech and it will work in 2009 to 2011 for the NWO madmen.
We have to inform millions and millions more about them, but with the Media gagged and in their pocket it is/will be difficult.
CanadaLarry 2 years ago
EXACTLY.....THEY ARE TARGETING PEOPLE WHO ALREADY KNOW ABOUT THEM OR ARE JUST FINDING OUT ABOUT THEM...with zeitgeist..........that's exactly what I was saying.....i'm agreeing with you....
CIRCULATEYOURFREEDOM 2 years ago
CanadaLarry 2 years ago
Please explain this to me, and I am not trying to defend religion I realise what can be done in the name of it! Why is it that people such as yourself attack christianity over and above anything else without focusing on the fact that the religion of the elite is spiritualist/new age/occult and that most "christianity" is pagan/esoterically derived ie Christmas/easter, what about the fact we have astrology in the form of star signs in our papers in 2009 or should I say 6009
infowarsnz 2 years ago
I'm not going to attack something as much if I don't know as much about it - and unsubstantiated conspiracy theories about something don't really do much for me.
Anyway, I'd rather take down a big bully, than some annoying little twerp who can't tie his own shoes.
ChelevSaRa 2 years ago
Friend, Im not asking for a fight rather an explanation. You said you wont attack something as much if you don't know as much about it.That is logical but perhaps you should know more about it..you go on to try call me a conspiracy theorist, the implication being nothing I say can be proved and my opinions are based in paranoia and faith- nothing could be further from the truth. If you think the Obeliesks, Diana temples or even crosses are Christian then it is you who has unsubstatianted beliefs
infowarsnz 2 years ago
An explanation is what you wanted, and an explanation is what I gave you. I wasn't trying to fight you. I was just explaining why I focus more on Christianity as opposed to other divisive religions.
ChelevSaRa 2 years ago