@Tahuzilla All right i like that you have great ones as the idols. I fully understand MLK jr, truly a great man standing for what he believed till he ws killed. I will not discus the man from Nazareth its your choice and part of religion right now. But the middle three of them. Ehm Alexander the Great, one of the greatest selfcentric and luckiest butchers in history? Augustus the slimiest man of the roman republic, and Washington, mr. disaster of the military universe?
It's interesting that you used footage from HBO's "Rome," considering his overall pretty negative portrayal on it. His character on it is a hypocritical, cold, manipulitive, sociopathic and ruthless dictator. Not to mention a bit of a coward. Oh, and a sexual pervert too.
The reason people treat such small animals so fondly is because they are very much like children themselves. They have that sense of innocence that children do, and they are just as attached to their owners as children are to their parent. Also, wheras children may oneday grow up to me despicable people, an animal that is treating kindly will retain their love and innoce their whole life.
@Tahuzilla augustus to me is my favorite person in history i suppose my nu1 hero .and when you talk about people like lady gaga kim kardashian and the rest of pop culture trash i totally agree with you
Not the only one: Tiberius, Vespasian, Titus (?), Nerva, Trajan, Hadrian, Antoninus Pius, Marcus Aurelius, Septimius Severus, Constantine the Great etc. weren´t assassinated, too.
@OmnomTheDevourer Dioclitian actually managed to choose his sucessor, and retire the office of emperor to relax for the last several years of his life. :-)
@1Zenspace Well not only Diocletian did choose his succesor, Augustus himself tried to establish clear line of succession. But due to bad hobby of his wife (Livia) none of his chosen ones lived long enought so at the end he had no choice but to choose Tiberius. Actualy a whole line of emperors, so called adopted emperors, were chosen by their predecesors to rule. (BTW: Diocletian retired but he still have much power in his hands and ocassionaly step up in the politics)
In the opening appears Cicero, he introduces Octavius. I think the actor and interpretation of Cicero is way off what Cicero was. Cicero was more robust, and did not flinch, neither look like a man which is always afraid but controls --barely-- his fear, as the character in this movie. Cicero was majestic and his face was always undisturbed. When Antonious assasins captured him he said "Gaius est, morire in patria semper servita" and offered his neck to be sworded and cut off.
@Tahuzilla there's WAY more to the story than that, dude... they didn't convert because they KNEW the stories were fake or borrowed from other sources... ancient writers knew this and some of their writings survive, but most were destroyed (BURNED!!!) by christian bigots... look up a Phoenician writer named Porphyry. you'd be amazed to know how destructive the christians were against Roman history and culture and writing... essentially, the christians were superstitious barbarians.
@Tahuzilla well, if you're refering to the Hebrew scriptures, then you're wrong... the gospels were taylor made to fit the old testament "predictions" and the stories of Jesus are just fictitious... don't you think the Jews undersand their own scriptures better than you or any other Christians do?...why didn't the Jews convert en masse if the gospels were "true" history?... they knew the stories of Jesus were fake and copied from the Romans since in their OWN beliefs the messiah is NOT a god.
Augustus was declared the Savior of the Roman World... then later a certain group of Judaean rebels COPIED this act & declared their own guy to be their savior and king & the rest is history... you know the story.
Hail emperor Augustus, first and best emperor Rome ever had, everyone loved him and praetorians guards where completely loyal to him, amazing man he was.
he was not called Caius Octavian Caesar - he was Caius Iulius Caesar Octauianus and regarded that 'Octavianus' from his original family before his adoption, as an insult. By modern standards he was a cold psychopath - but Rome did not live (or die) by modern standards.
@Miauriceful That is what I said. and he did not like to be reminded of the 'Octavianus' telling everybody he was not a direct descendent. After 28BC he calls himself Augustus.
@Miauriceful Not a decendant. Mother of Augustus was Atia Balba Caesonia, she was daughter of Julia Caesaris Minor, which was the sister of Gaius Iulius Caesar. And yes Caesar had only one legal daughter, her name was Julia . But due the adoptio Augutus was his son as well.
Not really. But "Pax Augusta" and "Pax Romana" begin in 30 B.C. but in the time after 14 A.D. we speek of "Pax Romana" because now Rome was ruled by a new emperor.
@Princepsmaximus They sometimes call "Pax Romana" "Pax Augusta" because Augustus was the first to start Pax Romana, so it seemed right they could call it this
If you consider the Byzantines to be an extension of the Roman Empire then this man's legacy lasted up until the 15th century, an Empire of over 1,400 years.
Romans didn´t know the title "emperor" at that time, they only knew "rex". "Emperor" as we know it today comes from "imperator" and "imperator" was a military title. Augustus was proclaimed "imperator" several times: It meant that he was the commander of the army.
@Princepsmaximus In fact, it was the soldiers who would proclaimed a victorious general as "imperator" during the Republic, but that was it; then, this proclamation would be used by the general to apply for a Triumph.
@Princepsmaximus You are right, the imperator is from military. The succesfull commander could be porclaimed imperator by his soldiers. The base of the word is from imperium, which means legal power to command, the sovereignity to give orders, and all higher magistrates hold imperium, (aedils,praetors, consuls, magister equitum,dictator).
@Princepsmaximus actually they called themselves "princeps", princes. it's true, the title emperor was given to them by historians. "imperator" was a title earned by acclamation from the soldiers by a very successful general, many emperors were actually imperator, that is generals who took hold of power, but it has nothing to do with the modern meaning of this word.
I prefer Alexander the Great. He achived far more in his tenure as ruler of the known world when compared to Augustus, as well as conquering the lands between Egypt and the India.
But then if one realy wants to get controversial the prize for one individual effect on the the world has to be given to Jesus Christ. This man affected the entire planet. Yet, 2000 years after his death billions of people stil fall to their knees at the sound of his name - beat that Augustus.
Augustus, without doubt achieved most of all the Roman Emporers. But he did not conquer the known world by himself where as Alexander did.
Alexander, expanded the Macedonian Empire east from Greece to the Lower Indus Valley and west to Italy and Rome and south to Egypt and north Africa. Alexander did in one life time what it took the Romans 300 years.
Augustus had the Empire pre-built already at his hands. Alexander built it with his hands.
Alexander gained macedonia and greece from his father conquest, then invaded perisa using his fathers plan, and failed to make it substainable so it collapsed after his death, Augustus gained power through civil war with seasoned romans and rose from a no one to emporer and sent Rome into a golden age
Octavian was never the bad man as he is portrayed by this video. He lived in violent times where life was cheap. He ended the civil wars that had taken place since Caesar was murdered in 44BC and restored peace and prosperity to Rome. He NEVER declared himself King or Emperor but took the title of Princeps, meaning leading man, for life. People mistake the word Princeps for Prince, it is far from that.
@tonylast47 You are right, he lived in violnet times, and yes he never declared himself a king. But he cant proclaimed himself the emperor, becouse there was not such a title, there was only imperator, and that was title for succesfull commander given by his troops. At the second people mistake princeps with prince becouse it sounds very alike, and they do so becouse the prince come pre latin princeps.
It tell a lot about him that he never went by the title emperor because he wanted to maintain the illusion the Rome was still a republic. He understood that the Romans of that day still held the false image of itself as a republic long after Rome had ceased to be one in fact.
that so called world empire of rome was never known to the east.... the west as usual like to blow their own trumphet... he was known only around europe and egypt and its surrounding areas... hero in his own world!
@tigersoup How could be know to the east, when the east (china, mongolia, japan) were isolated by roman empire becouse of PARTHIANS between them, and parthians fought romans for 300 years... japan was isolated for centuries and centuries from rest of the world. It's you who dont undarstand that roman empire was even bigger than showed in movies.
@tigersoup In the world before mass communication and easy travel everyone saw their world as THE WORLD. Besides,his world was a pretty big one,encompassing --as it did the entire Mediterranean region,plus the future Great Britain. The Empire's influence can still be felt throughout the world centuries later. As for the west blowing its horn as usual,well we westerners have a Hell of a lot to blow our horns about and proudly so.
name any Emperor, King, Queen in the world before 1700 AD whom managed to save his or her crown and hold on to power without at some point having to resort to ruthless tactics on those who sot to finish them.
@MobHeataEnt she was egyptian and before you start to say she is part of the ptomelys I would like to point out that her Decendants took Egyptian women as wifes so technicaly shes a bit of both
I believe Octavian was not Julius Caesar's son but his nephew. Caesar indeed had a son named Caesarian with the Egyptian Queen Cleopatra who was ordered killed by Octavian (Augustus).
Considering the very hostile relations between Cicero and Caesar Augustus, I highly doubt he would have believed in him much.
Not to mention that Caesar Augustus was a very cold, cunning, cruel politician. His coming into power is a very clear enough sign that Rome has ceased to function as a Republic---it would be up to Strong Men like him to maintain Rome and keep it from crumbling.
As for the scene itself, how could it not evoke terror? The Senate house is dank and dark, feeling claustrophobic, Augustus's face is half-cast in darkness, with his cold blue eyes cutting through the total blackness that the whites of his eyes are cast in. He looks almost demonic to someone whose never heard of him and is seeing this for the first time without sound.
I don´t think so. In Rome Octavian always appears ambivalent. He´s never just demonic. For me the scene shows a man who knows what he wants and who is able to submit fate to himself. A man ro whom belongs the future, chosen by destiny, the coming leader.
Wow, what show were YOU watching? He radiates nothing but blazing evil in the scene where he meets Cleopatra for the first time. And I don't blame him for doing so, either.
I hold him in very high regards, but NOT as some sort of Napoleonic or Alexander-esque hero who sought to spread good cheer and benevolence amongst his people. He was a very cold, cruel, cunning man, and only once he was secure in his power did he begin to exercise his power with benevolence
Maybe you just see it with another eyes. But i think the producers didn´t want to show him only evil. In the Rome DVD they make clear that they see him ambivalent. A true statesman and politician, but not very heartfelt.
That's how I view Augustus in real life---a true statesman and politician, but not very heartfelt.
I think the series did him a slight disservice by not giving him any real chance to show any sort of genuine affection. His marriage to Livia is a stale, coldhearted, purely sexual relationship, perhaps trying to stick with the "I, Claudius" characterization, while he just as easily disowns his mother and exploits his sister to his own advantage.
And the cinematography, especially in scenes like these, are just too blatantly "Bad Guy" to think of as ambivalence. It reminds me of a scene in "Caligula" where a man is being tortured, and Caligula is watching, his eyes wide open, completely frozen, slowly zooming in on his face. It's not exactly an open-ended, open-question sort of sequence; it solidly labels him as "Evil" and no amount of exposition or writer's intent can override the emotions made by the director's aesthetic choices
Well, that is our opinion but my interpretation is another. I see there an ambivalence and it would have been not really consequent to show Octavian only evil in this scene after they had showed also good sides before (think of the relationship to Titus Pullo f.e.). And remember: Octavian is in the senate to restore order. His mentor Cicero speaks of a new beginning. Don´t forget: Octavian has a reason to be hard towards the senate. There were murderers in this house!
Okay, in this case the series was wrong because Augustus´ relationship to Livia was true love and he always had real feelings for her. We shouldn´t forget: Despite all his calculations he was also a man who had emotions, something that inspired him and what he worked for. It would be too easy to see great statesmen like him just as machiavellists who have nothing they believe in and that is their passion. Without passion there is no genius!
By the way. I found him sympathetic in the series...^^ But that may have to do with different views of history. Today we have a very moralising idea of politics. But we forget the historical tasks and responsibilities a nation and a great individual has. Furthermore you can state that in "Rome" nearly every important historical person is shown in a negative way. Caesar is not really sympathetic, Cicero is arrogant, Antony a drinker, Livia a witch, Cato a narrow-minded fanatic.
I agree, the show really didn't portray Augustus in a good light; neither, from what we know of him, was it historically accurate I would say. They do paint him as a very cold calculating man, but I think it's just intended as the result of what they had for the child character in the show, which wasn't really accurate either. The one negative thing I'd agree on is how they showed his skittishness when it comes to military situations, but he had Agrippa for that anyway ;)
Of course Octavian/Augustus is not a man like Alexander/Caesar who leads his soldiers and followers just by his direct presence. But you mustn´t forget that he always built his position on his auctoritas and that means his personal charisma. Charisma is not only to be a great orator and make masses enthusiastic, but also to constitute the own right to exist and make people believe in oneself. Octavian/Augustus was a genius in that.
Aren't most great men self-serving and power hungry? Boney was a product of his period. The fact is he was just a lot better than his contempories. Rivolli, The Pyramids, Aboukir, Marengo, Ulm, Austerlitz, Jena, The 7 Days Campaign, are all unparalled military victories.
By introducting the Code Civil and making appointments on merit, he preserved the best aspects of the revolution whilst bringing stability. He was so popular that his nobody newphew used his name to become President of France.
Augustus was a very different man from Napoleon or Alexander. Napoleon's empire fell apart 11 years after he became emperor. Alexander's generals killed his family and divided his empire after his death. The Roman Empire continued to survive until 1453. Alexander was supposed to have cried when he found out there was no more of the world to conquer. Augustus found this story odd because he thought the governance of such a realm was a greater task than conquering it, hence the longevity of Rome.
Funny how all of these ancient Romans of the late Republic are speaking flawless Modern English.
Lol.
I guess that Classical Latin was briefly out of style at around this time.
XD
In reality, Augustus was a military strongman who forced the old administrative machinery of the Republic to bend to his will. One could say that the later emperor Diocletian simply removed the facade that was the Republic after Augustus' reign.
In the first century bc we have in fact what is called classical latin. It was represented by great writers like Cicero and Vergil. Since that time latin language didn´t change much.
traian or trajano in spanish was the best emperor rome has ever had. he was born in actual spain, before hispania. he belonged to the antonia gens and he is considerer a better emperor by many historicists.
You cannot really compare them. Different times, two very different people. Of course Trajan was the better general, but Augustus was the better ruler who founded an empire and thought in very long terms.
Dying Augustus's last words, to his friends: "do you think I played well,right down, in performance of my life? If you had fun, offer to me your applause and be delighted.
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He's the most adored man now; and also, Pontius Pilate didn't find Jesus guilty. He said "I washed my hands" which means that he didn't want to have anything to do with killing an innocent man. The Jews wanted Jesus dead; but my point is that right now Jesus is the most adored man.
Okay, that´s right, but at the time of Augustus and after you could say he was the most adored man. The popularity of Jesus changed in the fourth century.
You're right. Octavian was't an evil emperor. He was one of the worlds greatest rulers actually, and he continued what Julius Caesar started. But Octavian saved the republic in a way that Caesar never could have done. For 2009 years ago, in the Teutobergforest, rome saw the consequenses of his only big mistake - to sen roman legions to Germania in an attempt to make the people follow the roman religion. It ended with a scream from the emperor himself: "Varrus, give me back my legions!"
Big problems with that, the senate was bitterly divided at that time period and it could easily be put under duress by a popular general. Furthermore, the senators could also be easily bribed by a man with access to wealth. It would have been a recipe for civil war. Augustus wanted stability and he felt that monarchy was the best way to achieve it - he succeeded to a large extent as the two hundered years after his death are known as the Pax Romana - the Roman peace.
Augustus used to the legions and his money to create a monarchy. He gave stability, but he took the liberty to the people to decide to judges and wiped out the senatorial elite.
Yes, but after 42 B.C. the senate wasn´t powerful any longer. Okay, officially he was the political head and centre of the state, but under Augustus and his successors this was nothing more than a fiction. The real - nearly absolute - power lay in the hands of the "princeps".
Augustus was indeed a great statesman who created an empire with the face of republic, and empire-period lasted hundreds of years.
There is also bad side: Augustus did make for example a horrible land reform which destroyed lives of thousands small farmers. And he used brutal political terror to stay in power. And he used propaganda to make him look so great. And he was pathetic when it comes to military, Agrippa did the job for him (and Antonius did the job against Brutus and Cassius).
Great video, although id advise getting someone to review the text you used.....its not very good English. Im thinking you are not a native speaker though so i wouldnt worry
augustus is cool but his actor is not
tenmon83 3 days ago
He was a fucking liar. Which means that he's brilliant!
YamiBarai21 1 month ago
@Tahuzilla For me it's Jesus Christ, Caesar Augustus, Saladin, Julius Caesar
matthewy2j 3 months ago
It is highly suspected that Livia actually poisoned her Husband Augustus in favour of her son Tiberius becoming emporer.
OttoKrinklebottom 3 months ago
@Tahuzilla All right i like that you have great ones as the idols. I fully understand MLK jr, truly a great man standing for what he believed till he ws killed. I will not discus the man from Nazareth its your choice and part of religion right now. But the middle three of them. Ehm Alexander the Great, one of the greatest selfcentric and luckiest butchers in history? Augustus the slimiest man of the roman republic, and Washington, mr. disaster of the military universe?
ArcheoRexo 4 months ago
It's interesting that you used footage from HBO's "Rome," considering his overall pretty negative portrayal on it. His character on it is a hypocritical, cold, manipulitive, sociopathic and ruthless dictator. Not to mention a bit of a coward. Oh, and a sexual pervert too.
enigma19833 4 months ago
The reason people treat such small animals so fondly is because they are very much like children themselves. They have that sense of innocence that children do, and they are just as attached to their owners as children are to their parent. Also, wheras children may oneday grow up to me despicable people, an animal that is treating kindly will retain their love and innoce their whole life.
RocaDeearCenjar 4 months ago
someone should do a movie of him, a cool blockbuster movie
Jite77 6 months ago
@Tahuzilla
martin luther king has no right to be included amongst such great men
VigisKane 8 months ago
@VigisKane he has every right
ojxl 8 months ago
@ojxl
No, he doesn't.
MLK Jr can not be compared to them.
surgedark 6 months ago
@VigisKane
he is a little girl compared to Augustus, Ceasar and Alexander
VigisKane 8 months ago
@VigisKane and why the hell not?
dylanlp1999 7 months ago
@Tahuzilla augustus to me is my favorite person in history i suppose my nu1 hero .and when you talk about people like lady gaga kim kardashian and the rest of pop culture trash i totally agree with you
blakey66 8 months ago
omnom the devourer your wrong mate trajan,hadrian,vespasian and few others
blakey66 8 months ago
LOL AUGUTSU
NOBRINGHAT 8 months ago
Only Roman Emperor to avoid being assassinated!
OmnomTheDevourer 8 months ago 9
@OmnomTheDevourer
Not the only one: Tiberius, Vespasian, Titus (?), Nerva, Trajan, Hadrian, Antoninus Pius, Marcus Aurelius, Septimius Severus, Constantine the Great etc. weren´t assassinated, too.
Princepsmaximus 8 months ago 29
@Princepsmaximus
He meant 'first'.
DutchAirsoftPlayer 1 month ago
@OmnomTheDevourer Most real emperors weren't assinated!
FieldMarshalRommel23 6 months ago
@OmnomTheDevourer Dioclitian actually managed to choose his sucessor, and retire the office of emperor to relax for the last several years of his life. :-)
1Zenspace 4 months ago
@1Zenspace Well not only Diocletian did choose his succesor, Augustus himself tried to establish clear line of succession. But due to bad hobby of his wife (Livia) none of his chosen ones lived long enought so at the end he had no choice but to choose Tiberius. Actualy a whole line of emperors, so called adopted emperors, were chosen by their predecesors to rule. (BTW: Diocletian retired but he still have much power in his hands and ocassionaly step up in the politics)
ArcheoRexo 4 months ago
The main road In Riga is named after him, not many people know but the Roman empire was as far as the Baltic sea.
Capitancanguro1 9 months ago
In the opening appears Cicero, he introduces Octavius. I think the actor and interpretation of Cicero is way off what Cicero was. Cicero was more robust, and did not flinch, neither look like a man which is always afraid but controls --barely-- his fear, as the character in this movie. Cicero was majestic and his face was always undisturbed. When Antonious assasins captured him he said "Gaius est, morire in patria semper servita" and offered his neck to be sworded and cut off.
powerdriller10 9 months ago
@Tahuzilla there's WAY more to the story than that, dude... they didn't convert because they KNEW the stories were fake or borrowed from other sources... ancient writers knew this and some of their writings survive, but most were destroyed (BURNED!!!) by christian bigots... look up a Phoenician writer named Porphyry. you'd be amazed to know how destructive the christians were against Roman history and culture and writing... essentially, the christians were superstitious barbarians.
999II0OlllO0II666 10 months ago
@Tahuzilla well, if you're refering to the Hebrew scriptures, then you're wrong... the gospels were taylor made to fit the old testament "predictions" and the stories of Jesus are just fictitious... don't you think the Jews undersand their own scriptures better than you or any other Christians do?...why didn't the Jews convert en masse if the gospels were "true" history?... they knew the stories of Jesus were fake and copied from the Romans since in their OWN beliefs the messiah is NOT a god.
999II0OlllO0II666 10 months ago
Does anyone know the name of the song with which this video opens?
XtremeDreamerX 10 months ago
probably the most brilliant politician in history.
maximuslaurius 10 months ago
Augustus was declared the Savior of the Roman World... then later a certain group of Judaean rebels COPIED this act & declared their own guy to be their savior and king & the rest is history... you know the story.
999II0OlllO0II666 10 months ago
Gaius Julius Caesar Octavianus Augustus: THE MAN.
itscarlbar 10 months ago
Hail emperor Augustus, first and best emperor Rome ever had, everyone loved him and praetorians guards where completely loyal to him, amazing man he was.
Mindaugas7100 11 months ago
The Video & Audio gave me goosebumps
Epic stuff
petarphyle 11 months ago
Whats the song at 4:13?
grantquigle 1 year ago
@grantquigle no one?
grantquigle 11 months ago
whats the name of the song that comes before the 'titans' song.
TheRock2004 1 year ago
@TheRock2004 answer me damnit, whats the song at 4:10.
TheRock2004 11 months ago
haha
ViquezBonicheSanJose 1 year ago
My dad named my middle name after Augustus
Areallykelwguy 1 year ago 2
he was not called Caius Octavian Caesar - he was Caius Iulius Caesar Octauianus and regarded that 'Octavianus' from his original family before his adoption, as an insult. By modern standards he was a cold psychopath - but Rome did not live (or die) by modern standards.
Saiaton 1 year ago
@Saiaton
Are you Joking' That is his legal name after the adoption. Caius Julius Cesar Octavianus. Romans formed name in this way.
Miauriceful 1 year ago
@Miauriceful That is what I said. and he did not like to be reminded of the 'Octavianus' telling everybody he was not a direct descendent. After 28BC he calls himself Augustus.
Saiaton 1 year ago
@Saiaton
Augustus is not a name, it's a title and mean "Venerable".
Octavianus was a Cesar discendent from the maternal line. Cesar had only a daughter.
Miauriceful 1 year ago
@Miauriceful Not a decendant. Mother of Augustus was Atia Balba Caesonia, she was daughter of Julia Caesaris Minor, which was the sister of Gaius Iulius Caesar. And yes Caesar had only one legal daughter, her name was Julia . But due the adoptio Augutus was his son as well.
ArcheoRexo 4 months ago
"USHER IN A NEW ERA"? .IS THIS HE WHO SHALL THINK TO CHANGE TIMES AND LAWS AS WRITTEN IN DANIEL?
UriYaH12 1 year ago
@UriYaH12
lol, the Herbrews cannot compare to Rome's glory.
Takua38000 1 year ago 2
Great video! He was Caesars great nephew though, rather than just his nephew.
SimplyTesss 1 year ago
I always liked Antony better, but this was well put together
JonesGOP1 1 year ago
sorry i'm confuse, is there any different between Pax Romana and Pax Augusta?
accretiansholiq 1 year ago
@accretiansholiq
Not really. But "Pax Augusta" and "Pax Romana" begin in 30 B.C. but in the time after 14 A.D. we speek of "Pax Romana" because now Rome was ruled by a new emperor.
Princepsmaximus 1 year ago
@Princepsmaximus They sometimes call "Pax Romana" "Pax Augusta" because Augustus was the first to start Pax Romana, so it seemed right they could call it this
Sparxx28 1 year ago
@accretiansholiq hmmm ?
daviddsouza85 5 months ago
wasn't Augustus poisoned to death by his wife Livia?
MisterBlueSky1000 1 year ago
@MisterBlueSky1000 Not that I'm aware of . . .
DukeofColumbia 1 year ago
@MisterBlueSky1000 It's impossible to know that. But it makes for great TV eh? ;)
XtremeDreamerX 1 year ago
If you consider the Byzantines to be an extension of the Roman Empire then this man's legacy lasted up until the 15th century, an Empire of over 1,400 years.
HelmutVillam 1 year ago
Octavian took on the title of Augustus, BUT, he never proclaimed himself Emperor, nor did any one in Rome at that time address him as such.
tonylast47 1 year ago 3
@tonylast47
Romans didn´t know the title "emperor" at that time, they only knew "rex". "Emperor" as we know it today comes from "imperator" and "imperator" was a military title. Augustus was proclaimed "imperator" several times: It meant that he was the commander of the army.
Princepsmaximus 1 year ago 13
@Princepsmaximus What about "Princeps"? Couldn't this be loosely referred to emperor, since Octavian received this title.
SloveintzWend 1 year ago
@SloveintzWend
Prineps means "Cheif" or "The First Person"
RuntOfTheBatch 1 year ago
@SloveintzWend
My apologese, it's translated as either "Cheif" or "First Person Among Equals".
RuntOfTheBatch 1 year ago
@Princepsmaximus In fact, it was the soldiers who would proclaimed a victorious general as "imperator" during the Republic, but that was it; then, this proclamation would be used by the general to apply for a Triumph.
chetumalkid 1 year ago
@Princepsmaximus rex means king in Latin, correct?
bxjam85 11 months ago
@Princepsmaximus Rex means King, like Carolus Rex, Kung Karl in Swedish.
Morran09 5 months ago
@Princepsmaximus You are right, the imperator is from military. The succesfull commander could be porclaimed imperator by his soldiers. The base of the word is from imperium, which means legal power to command, the sovereignity to give orders, and all higher magistrates hold imperium, (aedils,praetors, consuls, magister equitum,dictator).
ArcheoRexo 4 months ago
@Princepsmaximus actually they called themselves "princeps", princes. it's true, the title emperor was given to them by historians. "imperator" was a title earned by acclamation from the soldiers by a very successful general, many emperors were actually imperator, that is generals who took hold of power, but it has nothing to do with the modern meaning of this word.
marcosilenzio 3 months ago
@tonylast47 because the word emperor didn't exist at that time
ThaiBox7788 10 months ago
wow what an uplifting clip thanks.
iwatcher69 1 year ago
I prefer Alexander the Great. He achived far more in his tenure as ruler of the known world when compared to Augustus, as well as conquering the lands between Egypt and the India.
But then if one realy wants to get controversial the prize for one individual effect on the the world has to be given to Jesus Christ. This man affected the entire planet. Yet, 2000 years after his death billions of people stil fall to their knees at the sound of his name - beat that Augustus.
AnointedNemesis 1 year ago
@AnointedNemesis
How did Alexander acheive more?
Takua38000 1 year ago
@Takua38000
Augustus, without doubt achieved most of all the Roman Emporers. But he did not conquer the known world by himself where as Alexander did.
Alexander, expanded the Macedonian Empire east from Greece to the Lower Indus Valley and west to Italy and Rome and south to Egypt and north Africa. Alexander did in one life time what it took the Romans 300 years.
Augustus had the Empire pre-built already at his hands. Alexander built it with his hands.
AnointedNemesis 1 year ago
@AnointedNemesis
Alexander gained macedonia and greece from his father conquest, then invaded perisa using his fathers plan, and failed to make it substainable so it collapsed after his death, Augustus gained power through civil war with seasoned romans and rose from a no one to emporer and sent Rome into a golden age
Takua38000 1 year ago
what song is playing in 2:54?
Homer1936 1 year ago
@Homer1936
It is from "10.000 B.C.": "Ocean of Sand".
Princepsmaximus 1 year ago
thanks!
Homer1936 1 year ago
Octavian was never the bad man as he is portrayed by this video. He lived in violent times where life was cheap. He ended the civil wars that had taken place since Caesar was murdered in 44BC and restored peace and prosperity to Rome. He NEVER declared himself King or Emperor but took the title of Princeps, meaning leading man, for life. People mistake the word Princeps for Prince, it is far from that.
tonylast47 1 year ago
@tonylast47 You are right, he lived in violnet times, and yes he never declared himself a king. But he cant proclaimed himself the emperor, becouse there was not such a title, there was only imperator, and that was title for succesfull commander given by his troops. At the second people mistake princeps with prince becouse it sounds very alike, and they do so becouse the prince come pre latin princeps.
ArcheoRexo 4 months ago
He is the best, he created the civilized world.
MrAugustus88 1 year ago
It tell a lot about him that he never went by the title emperor because he wanted to maintain the illusion the Rome was still a republic. He understood that the Romans of that day still held the false image of itself as a republic long after Rome had ceased to be one in fact.
sleedolfine15 1 year ago
i wrote an essay about him n got 24/25 go me haha
emaoneluv 1 year ago
that so called world empire of rome was never known to the east.... the west as usual like to blow their own trumphet... he was known only around europe and egypt and its surrounding areas... hero in his own world!
tigersoup 1 year ago
@tigersoup How could be know to the east, when the east (china, mongolia, japan) were isolated by roman empire becouse of PARTHIANS between them, and parthians fought romans for 300 years... japan was isolated for centuries and centuries from rest of the world. It's you who dont undarstand that roman empire was even bigger than showed in movies.
CroPETROforever 1 year ago
@tigersoup In the world before mass communication and easy travel everyone saw their world as THE WORLD. Besides,his world was a pretty big one,encompassing --as it did the entire Mediterranean region,plus the future Great Britain. The Empire's influence can still be felt throughout the world centuries later. As for the west blowing its horn as usual,well we westerners have a Hell of a lot to blow our horns about and proudly so.
sleedolfine15 1 year ago
what is the song called 4:14 to 6:00?
TITANEMPEROR 1 year ago
name any Emperor, King, Queen in the world before 1700 AD whom managed to save his or her crown and hold on to power without at some point having to resort to ruthless tactics on those who sot to finish them.
MegaWolfgang 1 year ago
Cleopatra was a Greek not Egyptian.
MobHeataEnt 1 year ago
@MobHeataEnt she was egyptian and before you start to say she is part of the ptomelys I would like to point out that her Decendants took Egyptian women as wifes so technicaly shes a bit of both
lennydale92 1 year ago
@lennydale92 Yes she was both but she was more Greek, by her time the Egyptians were as pure Kemite as they used to be.
MobHeataEnt 1 year ago
He was the Best Roman Emperor
seven47katana 1 year ago 23
hey what movie is this XD ?
nemaimeimenema 1 year ago
@nemaimeimenema hbo Rome a two season series not movie
IOANNIS2 1 year ago
Augustus = history's greatest politician.
WIDR101 1 year ago 3
I believe Octavian was not Julius Caesar's son but his nephew. Caesar indeed had a son named Caesarian with the Egyptian Queen Cleopatra who was ordered killed by Octavian (Augustus).
777CARL777 1 year ago
@777CARL777 Caesar adopted him
TheOriginator99 1 year ago
"Agustus Caesar he will restore the Glory of Rome"! And he did!!!!!
Salve,Hail Great Augustus!!!!!!!!
"Pater Patriae'"!!!!!!!!!!
Jame243 1 year ago
even though aaugustus is not as great as alexander ,i like Augustus better because of his genius!
Azulblueone 1 year ago 3
That's not fair---adding "Alexander" intro music to it completely eviscerates the terror the scene's supposed to invoke
BloodyMargie 2 years ago
@BloodyMargie
Why do you think the scene supposes to invoke terror? It is a new beginning and Cicero and many senators believe that young Caesar can bring it.
Princepsmaximus 2 years ago
@Princepsmaximus
Considering the very hostile relations between Cicero and Caesar Augustus, I highly doubt he would have believed in him much.
Not to mention that Caesar Augustus was a very cold, cunning, cruel politician. His coming into power is a very clear enough sign that Rome has ceased to function as a Republic---it would be up to Strong Men like him to maintain Rome and keep it from crumbling.
BloodyMargie 2 years ago
As for the scene itself, how could it not evoke terror? The Senate house is dank and dark, feeling claustrophobic, Augustus's face is half-cast in darkness, with his cold blue eyes cutting through the total blackness that the whites of his eyes are cast in. He looks almost demonic to someone whose never heard of him and is seeing this for the first time without sound.
BloodyMargie 2 years ago
@BloodyMargie
I don´t think so. In Rome Octavian always appears ambivalent. He´s never just demonic. For me the scene shows a man who knows what he wants and who is able to submit fate to himself. A man ro whom belongs the future, chosen by destiny, the coming leader.
Princepsmaximus 2 years ago
@Princepsmaximus
Wow, what show were YOU watching? He radiates nothing but blazing evil in the scene where he meets Cleopatra for the first time. And I don't blame him for doing so, either.
I hold him in very high regards, but NOT as some sort of Napoleonic or Alexander-esque hero who sought to spread good cheer and benevolence amongst his people. He was a very cold, cruel, cunning man, and only once he was secure in his power did he begin to exercise his power with benevolence
BloodyMargie 1 year ago
@BloodyMargie
Maybe you just see it with another eyes. But i think the producers didn´t want to show him only evil. In the Rome DVD they make clear that they see him ambivalent. A true statesman and politician, but not very heartfelt.
Princepsmaximus 1 year ago
@Princepsmaximus
That's how I view Augustus in real life---a true statesman and politician, but not very heartfelt.
I think the series did him a slight disservice by not giving him any real chance to show any sort of genuine affection. His marriage to Livia is a stale, coldhearted, purely sexual relationship, perhaps trying to stick with the "I, Claudius" characterization, while he just as easily disowns his mother and exploits his sister to his own advantage.
BloodyMargie 1 year ago
And the cinematography, especially in scenes like these, are just too blatantly "Bad Guy" to think of as ambivalence. It reminds me of a scene in "Caligula" where a man is being tortured, and Caligula is watching, his eyes wide open, completely frozen, slowly zooming in on his face. It's not exactly an open-ended, open-question sort of sequence; it solidly labels him as "Evil" and no amount of exposition or writer's intent can override the emotions made by the director's aesthetic choices
BloodyMargie 1 year ago
@BloodyMargie
Well, that is our opinion but my interpretation is another. I see there an ambivalence and it would have been not really consequent to show Octavian only evil in this scene after they had showed also good sides before (think of the relationship to Titus Pullo f.e.). And remember: Octavian is in the senate to restore order. His mentor Cicero speaks of a new beginning. Don´t forget: Octavian has a reason to be hard towards the senate. There were murderers in this house!
Princepsmaximus 1 year ago
@Princepsmaximus
Which episode is this?
Takua38000 1 year ago
@BloodyMargie
Okay, in this case the series was wrong because Augustus´ relationship to Livia was true love and he always had real feelings for her. We shouldn´t forget: Despite all his calculations he was also a man who had emotions, something that inspired him and what he worked for. It would be too easy to see great statesmen like him just as machiavellists who have nothing they believe in and that is their passion. Without passion there is no genius!
Princepsmaximus 1 year ago
@BloodyMargie
For example he cried when getting the title "pater patriae" because he was so deeply moved.
Princepsmaximus 1 year ago
@BloodyMargie
By the way. I found him sympathetic in the series...^^ But that may have to do with different views of history. Today we have a very moralising idea of politics. But we forget the historical tasks and responsibilities a nation and a great individual has. Furthermore you can state that in "Rome" nearly every important historical person is shown in a negative way. Caesar is not really sympathetic, Cicero is arrogant, Antony a drinker, Livia a witch, Cato a narrow-minded fanatic.
Princepsmaximus 1 year ago
I agree, the show really didn't portray Augustus in a good light; neither, from what we know of him, was it historically accurate I would say. They do paint him as a very cold calculating man, but I think it's just intended as the result of what they had for the child character in the show, which wasn't really accurate either. The one negative thing I'd agree on is how they showed his skittishness when it comes to military situations, but he had Agrippa for that anyway ;)
btbrotherton 1 year ago
@BloodyMargie
Of course Octavian/Augustus is not a man like Alexander/Caesar who leads his soldiers and followers just by his direct presence. But you mustn´t forget that he always built his position on his auctoritas and that means his personal charisma. Charisma is not only to be a great orator and make masses enthusiastic, but also to constitute the own right to exist and make people believe in oneself. Octavian/Augustus was a genius in that.
Princepsmaximus 1 year ago
Napoleon?! A hero?? As self serving and power mongering as the worst of them...
doitchey 1 year ago
Aren't most great men self-serving and power hungry? Boney was a product of his period. The fact is he was just a lot better than his contempories. Rivolli, The Pyramids, Aboukir, Marengo, Ulm, Austerlitz, Jena, The 7 Days Campaign, are all unparalled military victories.
By introducting the Code Civil and making appointments on merit, he preserved the best aspects of the revolution whilst bringing stability. He was so popular that his nobody newphew used his name to become President of France.
midbsaj 1 year ago
Augustus was a very different man from Napoleon or Alexander. Napoleon's empire fell apart 11 years after he became emperor. Alexander's generals killed his family and divided his empire after his death. The Roman Empire continued to survive until 1453. Alexander was supposed to have cried when he found out there was no more of the world to conquer. Augustus found this story odd because he thought the governance of such a realm was a greater task than conquering it, hence the longevity of Rome.
midbsaj 1 year ago
Funny how all of these ancient Romans of the late Republic are speaking flawless Modern English.
Lol.
I guess that Classical Latin was briefly out of style at around this time.
XD
In reality, Augustus was a military strongman who forced the old administrative machinery of the Republic to bend to his will. One could say that the later emperor Diocletian simply removed the facade that was the Republic after Augustus' reign.
EricMetalGuitarist 2 years ago
In the first century bc we have in fact what is called classical latin. It was represented by great writers like Cicero and Vergil. Since that time latin language didn´t change much.
Princepsmaximus 2 years ago
@Princepsmaximus
You do realize my comment was utterly and without question sarcastic, right? Latin = SARCASMUS
Please, do tell me! You can't possibly have thought I was serious. Lol. XD
EricMetalGuitarist 2 years ago
traian or trajano in spanish was the best emperor rome has ever had. he was born in actual spain, before hispania. he belonged to the antonia gens and he is considerer a better emperor by many historicists.
pissbur 2 years ago
You cannot really compare them. Different times, two very different people. Of course Trajan was the better general, but Augustus was the better ruler who founded an empire and thought in very long terms.
Princepsmaximus 2 years ago
wat is the song in the background its wonderful
golddragon82 2 years ago
Era - Hymne.
Princepsmaximus 2 years ago
he killed finally the republic, the dignity and power of the romans!
kyroz3 2 years ago
Dying Augustus's last words, to his friends: "do you think I played well,right down, in performance of my life? If you had fun, offer to me your applause and be delighted.
Sexvultures 2 years ago
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Pateretfilius 2 years ago
AVE loved and not forgotten , bloody brutus and crasus siners who wronged venus jupiter and the gods vengenes is mine so say the amour of the lord great music whos it by???
Pateretfilius 2 years ago
nus, Constantine. He was ambitious and ruin Rome. As Syme says The East ruined Rome. Empires destroy liberty, they always have and always will.
antoninus138 2 years ago
Buenissssimo, me ha encantado el video, a ver si dentro de poco haces algo parecido...
Escipion200 2 years ago
What its like to be true roman and know the son of god and the saviour of peace true logic
Pateretfilius 2 years ago
You where told not to upon the site and memor of julius caesar so there fore you are BLOODED 900 as the money lenders you are
Pateretfilius 2 years ago
what is name of this move? i would like to download it
daymio99 2 years ago
That´s no movie. That´s the tv series "Rome HBO".
Princepsmaximus 2 years ago
thx
daymio99 2 years ago
Augustus is perhaps the most interest character in history - apart perhaps from Alexander the Great
brockerify 2 years ago 2
i would like to know song name 5.05. thx
daymio99 2 years ago
Era - Hymne.
Princepsmaximus 2 years ago
I know Im makeing a lot of corrections but Its only (sometimes call PAx Augusta) Most people know it as Pax Romana
Oldcartoons571 2 years ago
Gaius
Oldcartoons571 2 years ago
i`m ceasar himself
xbouxix 2 years ago
awesome video
PzVIE43 2 years ago 2
He was such a genius lol.
oOm4rc0Oo 2 years ago
BC, AD after julius caesar and his sons work on the julian calender by all right's and veneration this was given to them Before Caesar Augustus Decssus and not stolen and given without right to a lie!!!!!!!!!
Pateretfilius 2 years ago
Ave pater et filius spiritus the father the son ie Julius Caesar Augustus Caesar this is the true Son of God and saviour of peace and not your sparticus cruz worshipers who have stolen just about all of the rightious nomenfrom CAESAR
Pateretfilius 2 years ago
please tell wats the music in
4.11 and from 6.11
please tell me....
saruhagu 2 years ago
"Era - Hymne"
Princepsmaximus 2 years ago
and im pretty sure It wasnt Augustus who expanded Roman territory the most. (I know Trajen made it the biggest it ever got)
Oldcartoons571 2 years ago
No, Jesus was the most adored man in Roman history.
thejesusfreak919 2 years ago
And that was the reason why Pontius Pilatus sentenced him to death and the Christian were persecuted for three hundred years?
Princepsmaximus 2 years ago
He's the most adored man now; and also, Pontius Pilate didn't find Jesus guilty. He said "I washed my hands" which means that he didn't want to have anything to do with killing an innocent man. The Jews wanted Jesus dead; but my point is that right now Jesus is the most adored man.
thejesusfreak919 2 years ago
Okay, that´s right, but at the time of Augustus and after you could say he was the most adored man. The popularity of Jesus changed in the fourth century.
Princepsmaximus 2 years ago
It wasnt the Rebuplics army it was the traitors army
Oldcartoons571 2 years ago
maybe after Constantine, but not then.
EnsignSmith 2 years ago
No one way ethier Augustus or Julius Caesar was and maybe still is.
Oldcartoons571 2 years ago
You're right. Octavian was't an evil emperor. He was one of the worlds greatest rulers actually, and he continued what Julius Caesar started. But Octavian saved the republic in a way that Caesar never could have done. For 2009 years ago, in the Teutobergforest, rome saw the consequenses of his only big mistake - to sen roman legions to Germania in an attempt to make the people follow the roman religion. It ended with a scream from the emperor himself: "Varrus, give me back my legions!"
Techose 2 years ago
very well done! I loved (and still love) the show!
ClioVeritas 2 years ago
From what movie are the video fragments shown here?
spirithoes 2 years ago
the movie fragments are from HBO "Rome" season 2
MarcAurel170 2 years ago
"Varus give me back my legions!"
"Germania, Bella non victus".
Nortrix87 2 years ago
augustus only mistake was the question of the election of the emperor. He should have made provisions for the senate to elect the next emperor.
Adamalgorithm 2 years ago
Big problems with that, the senate was bitterly divided at that time period and it could easily be put under duress by a popular general. Furthermore, the senators could also be easily bribed by a man with access to wealth. It would have been a recipe for civil war. Augustus wanted stability and he felt that monarchy was the best way to achieve it - he succeeded to a large extent as the two hundered years after his death are known as the Pax Romana - the Roman peace.
midbsaj 2 years ago
Augustus used to the legions and his money to create a monarchy. He gave stability, but he took the liberty to the people to decide to judges and wiped out the senatorial elite.
MarcusAureliusVerus 2 years ago
Do you mean, took the liberty of the patricians? Because Rome was very much a model of an oligarchy.
PhilipineMan 2 years ago
Yes, but after 42 B.C. the senate wasn´t powerful any longer. Okay, officially he was the political head and centre of the state, but under Augustus and his successors this was nothing more than a fiction. The real - nearly absolute - power lay in the hands of the "princeps".
Princepsmaximus 2 years ago
Augustus was indeed a great statesman who created an empire with the face of republic, and empire-period lasted hundreds of years.
There is also bad side: Augustus did make for example a horrible land reform which destroyed lives of thousands small farmers. And he used brutal political terror to stay in power. And he used propaganda to make him look so great. And he was pathetic when it comes to military, Agrippa did the job for him (and Antonius did the job against Brutus and Cassius).
Wille278 2 years ago
not true he was a great military commander
Oldcartoons571 2 years ago
Ave!
ThisIsElysium 2 years ago
They made Augustus a bitch in Rome.....some slimy, pale, english bastard.
Transkar 2 years ago
Very inspiring.
Blackjack555 2 years ago
Great video, although id advise getting someone to review the text you used.....its not very good English. Im thinking you are not a native speaker though so i wouldnt worry
bulked 2 years ago
Is this all from "Imperium: Augustus" movie?
lusiplushy94 2 years ago
No, it´s from Rome HBO.
Princepsmaximus 2 years ago