What's common about this and Hotel California is the verse chord progression. I could tell you in detail but if you're a musician you already know. The melody is different and there is no chorus here. I love the wah guitar effect. It's all very nice, organic and raw. I can hear the vintage tube amps and compression you only really get with tape.
Why not the music too. I am convinced the story in Hotel California was inspired by the 1964 episode of the Outer limits titled, “the Guests”. In the story, a young man finds himself in a place where … Well, go watch the episode. Consider the lyrics and the story at a conceptual level and i think you'll find some very strikingly similar imagery expressed as scenes in the episode and as narratives in the song - Eerily similar and specific.
Err,mmm Must say Sounds like the eagles,Defo copied jethro tull!!No doubt in my mind........Yea Daddy to Hotel california,We used to know....just shows you!!!!
@memusic1947 its hardly plagorism if at all. Its in a diffrent key diffrent tempo, and jethro tull even said they didnt really give a shit. The lyrics are completley diffrent and theres nothing in common except for the music.
@16945pie Sorry to say this mate, but look at this video /watch?v=v4QKJAfXHBo&NR=1 CLEARLY states that Hotel California was indeed originally supposed to AND was originally RECORDED in E Minor. Same key as this song. I think it may be a little more plagiarized than you think!
@veryblackraven you are way out in your timings . The Eagles were a warm up band for JT in 1971 . We used to know was recorded in ,69 ; Hotel California 1976 . Get your "facts" staight
If similar chord progressions were plagerism we'd have no more use for songwriters cause they are all already written. I've heard much closer from Steve Miller or the Outlaws. Could you imagine if we had to give writer's credit to whoever came up with the pentatonic scale, there would be no Rock music (minor scale), and no country music (major scale). The courts are already full of golddiggers saying I wrote this part or I inspired that part. Be creative, make music and make people happy!
@912beef Just looked up Roll Over Beethoven, ELO's version and Chuck Berry is the only writer's credit, nothing about Ludwig von Beethoven writing the intro. Ludwig's got to be feeling a bit disapointed, or maybe flattered!
@januschii there are tons of songs that follow similar chord progressions. Some that sound a lot more like other songs than this one does. Plus, We used to know is in 3/4 or 6/8 time and Hotel California is in 4/4. Ian Anderson himself said it was a similar chord progression. But he never thought they stole anything from him. Listen to Brain Stew from Green Day and 25 or 6 to 4 by Chicago. Now that is a total riff rip-off.
I saw Tull live last summer. I've seen AC/DC, Kiss and a host of others, and Tull stood right up with them all. One of the best classic rock bands of all time.
Martin Barre kicks ass in this song. The guy above is right. Why are they inducting Bonnie Raitt into the R & R HOF and not Tull. That seem straight up backwards to anybody. As for Jackson Brown, a loud resounding "Meh".
@manuelmba The two songs don't even share the whole chord progression, just the first couple bars. There are many songs that share chord progressions.
Its obvious that Don Felder and Don Henley took the chords from this song.....but if they can do it better...than more power to em...haha plus...its not like the eagles were sum random one hit wonder that owed their fame to this song....they were famous before hotel california and still are to this day...they have tons of hit songs that are engraved in american rock n roll
@pienivla no, and if I were to guess what Ian thinks of the R&RHOF he could give a damn. Ian has little interest in anything commercial and popular. he is very much his own man, a rare commodity to have such success in an industry that works like a machine pumping out talentless "talent" with hits created by controled airplay, and veiwing.
Congratulations to everyone who has been added to The Rock Hall of Fame, but There are so many people who deserve to be there and haven't even been nominated.
I've loved this song and many of Tull's for 40 year's now. I just lifted this to embed on myspace page with the words "the best use of the Wah Wah' pedal I've ever heard".Martin Barre is one of the finest and most unspoken of Guitarists there has ever been, IMO. Like Hendrix, he made the guitar speak here, but his incredible licks on My God and the guitar on Locomotive Breath (both from Aqualung) show his verstility and why he's one of the finest there's ever been.
I've loved this song and many of Tull's for 40 year's now. I just lifted this to embed on myspace page with the words "the best use of the Wah Wah' pedal I've ever heard".Martin Barre is one of the finest and most unspoken of Guitarists there has ever been, IMO. Like Hendrix, he made the guitar speak here, but his incredible licks on My God and the guitar on Locomotive Breath (both from Aqualung) show his verstility and why he's one of the finest there's ever been.
I am 37 years old and literally have seen dozens upon dozen of rock shows of all sorts independent of musical genre(Bruce Springstein, Metallica, Santana, Nirvana, Guns and Roses, Depechmode, Terrance Trent Darby, Iron Maiden and so many others) and I will swear by God Jethro Tull was the best as far as I can remember. The energy and craftmanship put into it was simply electryfying. I´ve never seen an audience so stunned by a performance. I watched them in São Paulo Brazil in 1991.
Ok, after hearing this again after all these years and paying closer attention to the lyrics, this might be one of the best songs in the history of songdom. I used play lead along with this until my fingers were numb back in the day, and hearing it again, well, it just brings tears to my eyes. A beautiful, poignant perfect song.
I know the chord progressions are similar, but this and Hotel California are from different planets. I love them both, but this song absolutely slays Hotel California, in my opinion.
@ToujoursLAmour Slays is is a good word, Joe or whoever could of done it justice it would of been flattering it just make him look like a thief. Tull will always be in a class that you can't classify!
Master Barre at his finest !!! He rides a pale horse and all hell follows! Then he sets about to lay waste to all guitarists and devastate any who had dreams of greatness!
I'm 60, and this is as good now as it was back in the day! After hearing Barre play his guts out, it makes one want to crawl back to him begging for seconds! He literally tortures his instrument, making it scream for mercy! A guitar never dreamed it could be so expertly made to feel such exquisite agony..
Such a great song with a great sentiment... I reminisce of times before I was born, and of times enjoying this music a few years ago. Thank God for these records, man.
oh my god!! i didnt though hotel california and we used to know were so similar!
I think this is much better in my opinion... and the solos are better...
But anyway, is like listening to hotel california, but a bit different, i dont like that, cause im not really enjoyning the song as if it is the first time i listen to it... :(
i love both bands, both great songs but if i had to take one to a desert island regarding these particular songs it would have to be tull... tough decision but on this occasion they were in their first, definately a big fan of the eagles but tull own this one.
In Ian Anderson's interview with Songfacts: "It's difficult to find a chord sequence that hasn't been used, and hasn't been the focus of lots of pieces of music. It's harmonic progression is almost a mathematical certainty you're gonna crop up with the same thing sooner or later if you sit strumming a few chords on a guitar. There's certainly no bitterness or any sense of plagiarism attached to my view on it, although I do sometimes allude, in a joking way, to accepting it as a kind of tribute."
It wasn't Joe Walsh who wrote the music it was Don Felder. There's definitely a similarity, although I'd rather listen to Hotel California. The singing, the bass line, the feel and the solo are all better.
No discredit to Jethro Tull who are good. I'm just talking song comparison.
@snapshotsid Jethro Tull opened for the Eagles at a performance...after that, they came out with Hotel California...they stole from Jethro Tull :/ get your facts right
I grew up with this song, it still remains unbettered in sentiment and music. I want it played at my funeral. The world would be a better palce if we all took the lyrics to heart, and applied !!!
oh joe walsh started with this progression for sure. But the eagles were willing to write commercial songs, Anderson was not.
since our highest value is gold, and gold, according to most philosophers, purchases the just ok, we live, through and through, in a MEDIOCRACY, We have no heroes, not the artist Lenardo or the solder achilles or the knight arthur or beatrice, the medieval woman, considered in the middle ages supperior to the man
A true beauty of a romantic. As classic Tull as can be. This is another of my all time favorites, the lyrics, tempo, melody. Just wonderful. And yes, Barre at one of his finest solos here. // Gracias L53.
........got chucked out of Glasgow Apollo 1975, while at Tull gig, Glesga polis, then were scum, they were brating up some poor kid, i got gobby, etc etc . xxx
I've been a big Tull fan for many years and just recently have rediscovered the lesser known gems on older albums like "Stand Up" and "Benefit". Yes, unfortunately JT is often overlooked or even forgotten when big name classic rock legends are discussed. They are in my opinion, one of the best bands of all time and in a genius class of their own.
martin Barre is the most underrated guitarist in history, the fact that Tull hasn't even been considered for the r&r hall of fame is a travisty. I can't beleive how under-looked they are. I guess the hall of fame board was too busy ibducting Jackson Browne and Bonnie Raitt.
I totally AGREE 100%! Tull is my favorite band. I 've done NUMUROUS papers on them and every time, no one knows who they are these days. You say "Eagles" and EVERYONE is singing Hotel California. Ian Anderson is one of the greatest musicians of our time.
absolutely, Not only is ian Anderson one fo the greatest musicians ever but He's also one of the greatest song writers ever. He has written some of the most moving and intelligent lyrics I've ever heard. The main-stream, so called,music critics never gave him the credit he deserves.I guess people don't like lyrics that make you think. They would rather hear simple lyrics that have the word baby in every line.
I wouldn't necisarilly call it "plagiarism" on the part of the Eagles, but a "very strong inspiration" by Jethro Tull. Regardless, that song made so much fucking cash, Ian Anderson (who I assume wrote this chord progression) should be entitled to some of it. I mean, "Hotel California" is why The Eagles are even remembered by this generation. "We Used to Know" was obviously a blatant influence.
@oxnard332 oh yes I have been a trememdous enthusiast since 69 wow what a group and Ian is phenomenal!! love to hear others praise them . I get more enthused about this group than any other!! and Ian never did drugs !!
@chuckdd4201 Unfortunately they (RHOF) include, in the description of induction requirements, "influential" and as we know there has never been nor will ever be, anyone with the medieval / cetlic / royalty court storyteller ability / with monstrous tech. ability and high IQ humor of Jethro Tull.
@chuckdd4201 I think they are all underated, but only by the general public who have no clue about such matters. anyone who is a Tull fan knows where the band members ability lie. there are a few exceptions, like Jeff Hammond, he was perhaps the least talented muscian of the bunch. a rare exception for Anderson's standards.
@chuckdd4201 No, they were too busy inducting Madonna and other pop singers. Forget the Hall of Fame. It would be an insult to amazing bands like Jethro Tull, Rush, and Yes to be inducted next the the people that somehow make it in these days.
@chuckdd4201 They are well known all over the world, what could be better? The r'n'r hall of fame is only a way of dimension, but how to measure the art?
@chuckdd4201 Martin Barre absolutly shreds on this tune hands down the most underrated i agree completly overshadowed by other mainstream no talent having stealin ass people...
@JethroFloyd01 Absolutely F.Y I Love the screen name, Tull and Floyd are my 2 favourite bands of all time. Barre does shread and has never had proper credit. Neither has Anderson for his supurb songwriting and musicianship, but hey, those are the breaks. Thank god there's some ppl out there who know true talent when they hear it.
@chuckdd4201 yeah man...i do indeed know true talent....i know artists like Alvin Lee Martin Barre and Gilmour all are extremely talented...but get overshadowed my more mainstream artists.
JT & Martin Barre are well known around the globe. Martin has ingenious musical ideas, but as a guitar player - he is not a virtuouso, he is just near to it. The important thing is spirit, anyway. The "problem" of JT is, that the musical IQ of the crowd is too low ... Don't expect justice in this world. The world is really, really big and we don't know lot of things ...
drpro, I did notice the similarities in progressions too. Jethro tull and the Eagles used to tour together before the Eagles recorded Hotel California...
Yes I'm aware of that. Back in the very early 70's sometime...but something tells me that they latched onto it when Poco supported Jethro Tull, as both Randy Meisner and Timothy B. Schmit were in that band as well prior to The Eagles. My memory is a bit hazy on that though, Lol.
This Got to Be One of my Favorite Tull songs Martin Barre,What a guitar player, The Song is so Strong,I could Play it over and over and Never get Tired of it .You folks have got to see Jethro Tull Live they will Blow you away!!!! if you have never seen them.Keep on truckin J.T.
Moving music. Truly awesome guitar solo by Martin Barre, sounds like it's crying. IMO Tull's best album. Brit classic rock at its best. Those were the days (sigh) ...
The days, indeed ! Wiith the frantic flagellating floutist and the Mighty Moody Blues hitting stride at the same time we had pleny of fodderf for the turntables and headphones at the Utica College of Syracuse U library
For a real straight buzz, lisen to " Thinking is the best way to Travel by the Moodies Mike Pinder...and listen on headphones. Woooooeeeeeee.
There's certainly no bitterness or any sense of plagiarism attached to my view on it, although I do sometimes allude, in a joking way, to accepting it as a kind of tribute."
In Ian Anderson's interview with Songfacts, he makes it clear that he doesn't consider "Hotel California" to be borrowing anything from his song: "It's difficult to find a chord sequence that hasn't been used, and hasn't been the focus of lots of pieces of music. It's harmonic progression is almost a mathematical certainty you're gonna crop up with the same thing sooner or later if you sit strumming a few chords on a guitar.
The music may have been inspired by the 1969 Jethro Tull song "We Used to Know," from their album Stand up. The chord progressions are nearly identical, and the bands toured together before the Eagles recorded "Hotel California." In a BBC radio interview, Jethro Tull frontman Ian Anderson said laughingly that he was still waiting for the royalties.
Great bass line and interesting lyrics. I purchased Stand Up on vinyl at the time of its release and always played it as loud as possible. It sounds even better now thanks to better audio equipment Anyone who grew up with this stuff will have lived through an important period of musical history Im sure that the influence of progressive rock will have helped our understanding of everything
90% of pop and rock songs are based on the same chord progressions, but this is still a rip off. even down to the vocal melody.
hayzeephantayzee 1 week ago
wow... how can anyone not hear that? this is crazy
TheVinyl420 1 week ago
Can't copyright anything except melody and lyrics.
brianallancobb 1 month ago
We used to know, but then we took an arrow to the knee...
M3Z4C 1 month ago 5
@M3Z4C please not on a Jethro Tull Video... :P
BLARGHINATOR 1 month ago 7
What's common about this and Hotel California is the verse chord progression. I could tell you in detail but if you're a musician you already know. The melody is different and there is no chorus here. I love the wah guitar effect. It's all very nice, organic and raw. I can hear the vintage tube amps and compression you only really get with tape.
JohnBarryization 1 month ago
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See the Youtube video
" Was Hotel California based on a Jethro Tull song? "
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for Ian Anderson interview on the subject.
Supposedly the music for Hotel was written by Don Felder before he joined the Eagles in 1974 -- AFTER they toured with Tull.
kiefercatg 2 months ago
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kiefercatg 2 months ago
cmon man, i had a rough day and i fucking hate the eagles
sharqi666 2 months ago 4
remeber ha the filus way
lucasbraz000 3 months ago
Why not the music too. I am convinced the story in Hotel California was inspired by the 1964 episode of the Outer limits titled, “the Guests”. In the story, a young man finds himself in a place where … Well, go watch the episode. Consider the lyrics and the story at a conceptual level and i think you'll find some very strikingly similar imagery expressed as scenes in the episode and as narratives in the song - Eerily similar and specific.
myfavoritemachine 4 months ago
@myfavoritemachine its not literally describing someone forced to be in a hotel. Its all metaphors. Go look it up.
16945pie 4 months ago
Err,mmm Must say Sounds like the eagles,Defo copied jethro tull!!No doubt in my mind........Yea Daddy to Hotel california,We used to know....just shows you!!!!
memusic1947 4 months ago
@memusic1947 its hardly plagorism if at all. Its in a diffrent key diffrent tempo, and jethro tull even said they didnt really give a shit. The lyrics are completley diffrent and theres nothing in common except for the music.
16945pie 4 months ago
@16945pie Sorry to say this mate, but look at this video /watch?v=v4QKJAfXHBo&NR=1 CLEARLY states that Hotel California was indeed originally supposed to AND was originally RECORDED in E Minor. Same key as this song. I think it may be a little more plagiarized than you think!
stratomaster134 2 months ago
@stratomaster134 not plagiarized but rather inspired. Eagles and JT had toured together just before Hotel California was recorded.
veryblackraven 2 months ago
@veryblackraven you are way out in your timings . The Eagles were a warm up band for JT in 1971 . We used to know was recorded in ,69 ; Hotel California 1976 . Get your "facts" staight
MrGarrington120 1 month ago
Jethro Tull at their best. A number full of emotion and of course great guitar playing
meenos3 4 months ago
If similar chord progressions were plagerism we'd have no more use for songwriters cause they are all already written. I've heard much closer from Steve Miller or the Outlaws. Could you imagine if we had to give writer's credit to whoever came up with the pentatonic scale, there would be no Rock music (minor scale), and no country music (major scale). The courts are already full of golddiggers saying I wrote this part or I inspired that part. Be creative, make music and make people happy!
912beef 4 months ago 3
@912beef Just looked up Roll Over Beethoven, ELO's version and Chuck Berry is the only writer's credit, nothing about Ludwig von Beethoven writing the intro. Ludwig's got to be feeling a bit disapointed, or maybe flattered!
912beef 4 months ago
Wow I didn't know there were original song to Hotel California. Eagles member should credit them for songwriting.
tenoderaaridifolia 5 months ago
Favorite guitar solo of all time.
400LonelyThings 5 months ago
thieves!
samsblues 5 months ago
pink floyd atom heart mother chord sequence contemporaneous to tull.
MrNewkingjames 5 months ago
i love when ian always introduce this as hotel california on stage.
tcoudi 5 months ago
@tcoudi Is that on YouTube where Ian introduces this as "Hotel CA"? I'd love to see it.
BabyPuma124 5 months ago
@BabyPuma124
try some recent live version.also i heard him introducing aqualung as famous stairway to heaven from deep purple or something like that..
tcoudi 5 months ago
Best song ever
childofthe70s2 6 months ago
Songwiters and composers have been taking influences/copying from the days b4 Mozart., so get over it.
And yes I can hear the chord sequences.
tramsteer 6 months ago
@tramsteer BUT THE CHORD SEQUENCES, MAN THE EFFIN CHORD SEQUENCES!
meowandmeow 6 months ago
Change one note every 8 measures and the song is not worthy of a co-credit.
ahamay79 6 months ago
i think there's enough of a similarity to warrant a co credit
GriefTourist 6 months ago
I love both 'Hotel California' and 'We used to know', where's the problem?
I knew 'We used to know' in 1972, 'Hotel California' about 1977? I even saw Eagles in London (still got the ticket)
Let's not argue about music tastes, or favorite ice-cream flavours, let's enjoy them all
wwwonderful 6 months ago
Big Tull fan, but this is nothing like Hotel California.
exportpro99 6 months ago
@exportpro99 the chord progression is exactly the same, so it's quite a lot like hotel california
januschii 6 months ago
@januschii there are tons of songs that follow similar chord progressions. Some that sound a lot more like other songs than this one does. Plus, We used to know is in 3/4 or 6/8 time and Hotel California is in 4/4. Ian Anderson himself said it was a similar chord progression. But he never thought they stole anything from him. Listen to Brain Stew from Green Day and 25 or 6 to 4 by Chicago. Now that is a total riff rip-off.
exportpro99 6 months ago
I find no resemblance between the songs
Massiosare89 6 months ago
yo no encuentro el parecido entre las canciones
Massiosare89 6 months ago
i like eagles, and i like this song, for me the two songs are great !!!
xavmix 7 months ago 3
Isn't this the perfect "life's anthem?"
suzannejoseph 7 months ago 2
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suzannejoseph 7 months ago
.. if you catch my drift. for both our sakes, you are what you is.
antero15051984 8 months ago
I saw Tull live last summer. I've seen AC/DC, Kiss and a host of others, and Tull stood right up with them all. One of the best classic rock bands of all time.
nickyg14 8 months ago
Martin Barre kicks ass in this song. The guy above is right. Why are they inducting Bonnie Raitt into the R & R HOF and not Tull. That seem straight up backwards to anybody. As for Jackson Brown, a loud resounding "Meh".
ldzpln4ever 8 months ago
sounds to different than hotel California to care
miller4201234 8 months ago
JT forever and whatever others recognize them or not
peteneras 9 months ago
this song never gets old. LOVE IT! ROCK ON TULL!
jwhagarty 9 months ago
les Eagles se sont largement inspirés de cette chanson pour composer Hotel calfornia
xtroba 10 months ago
great guitar playing, love this song!
duff003 10 months ago
Martin Barre really did rock. I met him once in Detroit. He not only is a cool guitar player he was a really nice guy.
slugnutty21 11 months ago
EXTRAORDINALY MUSIC!!!I love the guitar solos:X:Xforever green!:X
ToMRocKsss 11 months ago 2
Did John Meyer tour with these guys?
cutecutedemons 11 months ago
Eagle stole this song !
manuelmba 1 year ago 17
@manuelmba The two songs don't even share the whole chord progression, just the first couple bars. There are many songs that share chord progressions.
Milewskige 2 weeks ago
@Milewskige and the solo quitar is close, come on theu stole this nad go fuck your self
saradisper 1 week ago
@saradisper Obviously, when someone can't argue with logic, they resort to name calling & profanity. Also, get a dictionary!
Milewskige 1 week ago
Hotel California?
omnipotentte 1 year ago 3
This is Hotel California´s mother.
raultejedor 1 year ago 84
@raultejedor And father, and the "Hotel California" itself. All in one.
pyth2ooo 6 months ago
@raultejedor LOL
Yeah it kind of sounds like that song
Getrealpeeps 4 months ago
@raultejedor >> This is A Soldier of Fortune's mother too...
vovikgmail 4 months ago
@raultejedor yes it is but this is better by a clear mile
alfiesgirluk 1 month ago
this is jus another proof the hypothesis that quality never equeals popularity, and so they never made it into the hall of fame.
TheMoltifao 1 year ago 3
Who cares about the Rock N' Roll Hall of fame anyway? It's just something designed to lift a few bucks out of tourist's wallets in any case.
ShahidMiller 1 year ago 3
LOVE!
everlong2006 1 year ago
Its obvious that Don Felder and Don Henley took the chords from this song.....but if they can do it better...than more power to em...haha plus...its not like the eagles were sum random one hit wonder that owed their fame to this song....they were famous before hotel california and still are to this day...they have tons of hit songs that are engraved in american rock n roll
bizmarkie6913 1 year ago
Hey... Phil M. I know you're listening. Do you remember the good ole days?
kdmerse 1 year ago
Infodisinfo: Thanks for your help. Much appreciated.
pienivla 1 year ago
this reminds me of hotel california by the eagles
CLIPPproductions 1 year ago
this song just ... ... sings .. and howls ... and talks to my soul, and always has.
Hornschmeyer 1 year ago 2
A great tune from a great album of a great band. Anderson is a genius.
Tharg 1 year ago
That's strange. I thought Tull were the very first band to be inducted into the R&R Hall of Fame. Can anyone help?
pienivla 1 year ago
@pienivla no, and if I were to guess what Ian thinks of the R&RHOF he could give a damn. Ian has little interest in anything commercial and popular. he is very much his own man, a rare commodity to have such success in an industry that works like a machine pumping out talentless "talent" with hits created by controled airplay, and veiwing.
infodisinfo 1 year ago
Congratulations to everyone who has been added to The Rock Hall of Fame, but There are so many people who deserve to be there and haven't even been nominated.
verd12w 1 year ago 2
I am going to be very very original... Hotel California ripped this song...!
nickman90gr 1 year ago
@omegak08 The Eagles used this chord progression for Hotel California, though in different timing. Not sure if they took it or asked for it though.
acfsambo 1 year ago
@acfsambo there was no 'asking' and Tull has no hard feelings on it. you can hear them talk about it right here on youtube.
infodisinfo 1 year ago
this song reminds me the eagle's song "hotel california"
omegak08 1 year ago
you can tell ,well i can tell,when i hear somebody playing,they are happy to play it,
these guys are always happy,,,!!
ror312gallery19 1 year ago
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I've loved this song and many of Tull's for 40 year's now. I just lifted this to embed on myspace page with the words "the best use of the Wah Wah' pedal I've ever heard".Martin Barre is one of the finest and most unspoken of Guitarists there has ever been, IMO. Like Hendrix, he made the guitar speak here, but his incredible licks on My God and the guitar on Locomotive Breath (both from Aqualung) show his verstility and why he's one of the finest there's ever been.
stormsurfer5650 1 year ago
I've loved this song and many of Tull's for 40 year's now. I just lifted this to embed on myspace page with the words "the best use of the Wah Wah' pedal I've ever heard".Martin Barre is one of the finest and most unspoken of Guitarists there has ever been, IMO. Like Hendrix, he made the guitar speak here, but his incredible licks on My God and the guitar on Locomotive Breath (both from Aqualung) show his verstility and why he's one of the finest there's ever been.
stormsurfer5650 1 year ago 3
AWESOME...Thanks for the Upload.
Brilliand band.
arrwstia7 1 year ago
people say that the eagles plagiarized this song? Really?
jakehr3 1 year ago
first album I ever bought....happy daze...
DukeBof69 1 year ago
I am 37 years old and literally have seen dozens upon dozen of rock shows of all sorts independent of musical genre(Bruce Springstein, Metallica, Santana, Nirvana, Guns and Roses, Depechmode, Terrance Trent Darby, Iron Maiden and so many others) and I will swear by God Jethro Tull was the best as far as I can remember. The energy and craftmanship put into it was simply electryfying. I´ve never seen an audience so stunned by a performance. I watched them in São Paulo Brazil in 1991.
vulture3112 1 year ago 3
@vulture3112 I watched them there and in Rio de Janeiro (where I live). WILL NEVER EVER FORGET, and I will hunt more concerts down.
claramacdowell 1 year ago
Ok, after hearing this again after all these years and paying closer attention to the lyrics, this might be one of the best songs in the history of songdom. I used play lead along with this until my fingers were numb back in the day, and hearing it again, well, it just brings tears to my eyes. A beautiful, poignant perfect song.
ymfpos 1 year ago 12
I know the chord progressions are similar, but this and Hotel California are from different planets. I love them both, but this song absolutely slays Hotel California, in my opinion.
ToujoursLAmour 1 year ago
@ToujoursLAmour Slays is is a good word, Joe or whoever could of done it justice it would of been flattering it just make him look like a thief. Tull will always be in a class that you can't classify!
Tullfree 1 year ago
brings back good memories of the 60,s. wish i could go back just for one day and enjoy the tunes
50godsson 1 year ago
This one is one of the best in Jethro's repertour
vilgraf 1 year ago
Master Barre at his finest !!! He rides a pale horse and all hell follows! Then he sets about to lay waste to all guitarists and devastate any who had dreams of greatness!
WizardOfChicamunga 1 year ago
I'm 60, and this is as good now as it was back in the day! After hearing Barre play his guts out, it makes one want to crawl back to him begging for seconds! He literally tortures his instrument, making it scream for mercy! A guitar never dreamed it could be so expertly made to feel such exquisite agony..
WizardOfChicamunga 1 year ago 3
Such a great song with a great sentiment... I reminisce of times before I was born, and of times enjoying this music a few years ago. Thank God for these records, man.
mussman717word 1 year ago
Check Labi Siffre's "Preyer" before listening to the Police's "Every breathe you take". Every note you take .... every words you take ...... ww.
saeinjar48 1 year ago
Jo Mama's "Midnight Rider" was also written before Eagles' "Desperado" .
Desperado" & Hotel California were written by ......
saeinjar48 1 year ago
My Favorite Jethro Tull Tune, Guitar Solo is the best!
kricky71 1 year ago
@kricky71 hotel cal ?
myanilee 1 year ago
@myanilee no man this is the original , the eagles must be called the pirats cause of this..
TheSirFERDINAND 1 year ago
Eagles Greatest Hit is a copied song xD
PaulThe123 1 year ago 2
Bellllla! <3<3
gingirellina 1 year ago
i love music......and this IS music
rainblish 1 year ago 4
Da qui è stata copiata hotel california(uscita 8 anni dopo)
qwertycabbudicazzu 1 year ago
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Just happened upon this video here and this is a complete shameless ripoff of Eagle's Hotel California!! Hope the credits are due!
TOREMJ 1 year ago
@TOREMJ
LOL
your "complete shameless" lack of musical knowledge shows!!!
JETHRO TULLS "we used to know' appears on the album Stand Up (1969)
and The Eagles hotel california was released in late 1976
"Hope the credits are due" moron!
tipsymcstager01 1 year ago 2
@TOREMJ man, Hotel California was composed SEVEN YEARS AFTER We Used To Know... so... which one is the rip off?
Aqualung1989 1 year ago
es obvio que esta cancion le dio pie a Hotel California..
Martin Lancelot Barre..siempre ha sido subestimado.. pero para mi es uno de los mejores guitarristas....
paz
Spike...out
YEKIO!
spikestrike91 1 year ago
oh my god!! i didnt though hotel california and we used to know were so similar!
I think this is much better in my opinion... and the solos are better...
But anyway, is like listening to hotel california, but a bit different, i dont like that, cause im not really enjoyning the song as if it is the first time i listen to it... :(
ASpanishguy 1 year ago
i love both bands, both great songs but if i had to take one to a desert island regarding these particular songs it would have to be tull... tough decision but on this occasion they were in their first, definately a big fan of the eagles but tull own this one.
jonnyb69able 1 year ago
What part of the song sounds like hotel california?
Cysf66 1 year ago
@Cysf66 All the second half, I guess.
ObakeFilter 7 months ago
This, Angie, Hotel California...>
milaRSLN 1 year ago
great jam
foppa123 1 year ago
In Ian Anderson's interview with Songfacts: "It's difficult to find a chord sequence that hasn't been used, and hasn't been the focus of lots of pieces of music. It's harmonic progression is almost a mathematical certainty you're gonna crop up with the same thing sooner or later if you sit strumming a few chords on a guitar. There's certainly no bitterness or any sense of plagiarism attached to my view on it, although I do sometimes allude, in a joking way, to accepting it as a kind of tribute."
ColignyForever 1 year ago 4
Epic.
cecchipaone 1 year ago 2
It wasn't Joe Walsh who wrote the music it was Don Felder. There's definitely a similarity, although I'd rather listen to Hotel California. The singing, the bass line, the feel and the solo are all better.
No discredit to Jethro Tull who are good. I'm just talking song comparison.
surfmcgoogler 1 year ago
Hotel California? Oh yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!
snapshotsid 1 year ago
Well, I tried to make a comment! I wasn't allowed, youtube why?
snapshotsid 1 year ago
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This is Hotel California however you dress it up. A complete and utter fucking rip- off.
snapshotsid 1 year ago
u loser this song was written first and the eagles wrote h.c after touring with this band.
gaydarth 1 year ago
I think you misunderstand. I totally agree with you, the eagles ripped this off and some.
snapshotsid 1 year ago
@snapshotsid Jethro Tull opened for the Eagles at a performance...after that, they came out with Hotel California...they stole from Jethro Tull :/ get your facts right
vforvendetta2112 1 year ago
@vforvendetta2112 actually the Eagles opened for Jethro Tull
AakwardAardvark 1 year ago
@AakwardAardvark
this song was before hotel california!
janwouters 1 year ago
@janwouters yes.. all i said was the eagles opened for Jethro and thats most likely how they got the inspiration to make hotel california
AakwardAardvark 1 year ago
@AakwardAardvark
y now i got it i think
i thought you meant that the eagles made hotel california
before we used to know
janwouters 1 year ago
I grew up with this song, it still remains unbettered in sentiment and music. I want it played at my funeral. The world would be a better palce if we all took the lyrics to heart, and applied !!!
psmith1954 1 year ago 3
oh joe walsh started with this progression for sure. But the eagles were willing to write commercial songs, Anderson was not.
since our highest value is gold, and gold, according to most philosophers, purchases the just ok, we live, through and through, in a MEDIOCRACY, We have no heroes, not the artist Lenardo or the solder achilles or the knight arthur or beatrice, the medieval woman, considered in the middle ages supperior to the man
coleride 1 year ago
A true beauty of a romantic. As classic Tull as can be. This is another of my all time favorites, the lyrics, tempo, melody. Just wonderful. And yes, Barre at one of his finest solos here. // Gracias L53.
Querencias 1 year ago 4
........got chucked out of Glasgow Apollo 1975, while at Tull gig, Glesga polis, then were scum, they were brating up some poor kid, i got gobby, etc etc . xxx
onebigguitar 1 year ago
I've been a big Tull fan for many years and just recently have rediscovered the lesser known gems on older albums like "Stand Up" and "Benefit". Yes, unfortunately JT is often overlooked or even forgotten when big name classic rock legends are discussed. They are in my opinion, one of the best bands of all time and in a genius class of their own.
busterbone 1 year ago 6
martin Barre is the most underrated guitarist in history, the fact that Tull hasn't even been considered for the r&r hall of fame is a travisty. I can't beleive how under-looked they are. I guess the hall of fame board was too busy ibducting Jackson Browne and Bonnie Raitt.
chuckdd4201 2 years ago 74
I totally AGREE 100%! Tull is my favorite band. I 've done NUMUROUS papers on them and every time, no one knows who they are these days. You say "Eagles" and EVERYONE is singing Hotel California. Ian Anderson is one of the greatest musicians of our time.
oxnard332 1 year ago 6
absolutely, Not only is ian Anderson one fo the greatest musicians ever but He's also one of the greatest song writers ever. He has written some of the most moving and intelligent lyrics I've ever heard. The main-stream, so called,music critics never gave him the credit he deserves.I guess people don't like lyrics that make you think. They would rather hear simple lyrics that have the word baby in every line.
chuckdd4201 1 year ago 3
I wouldn't necisarilly call it "plagiarism" on the part of the Eagles, but a "very strong inspiration" by Jethro Tull. Regardless, that song made so much fucking cash, Ian Anderson (who I assume wrote this chord progression) should be entitled to some of it. I mean, "Hotel California" is why The Eagles are even remembered by this generation. "We Used to Know" was obviously a blatant influence.
mussman717word 1 year ago
@oxnard332 oh yes I have been a trememdous enthusiast since 69 wow what a group and Ian is phenomenal!! love to hear others praise them . I get more enthused about this group than any other!! and Ian never did drugs !!
writertrump 1 year ago 2
@chuckdd4201 Whats wrong with Jackson Browne?
TheWallOfSound1990 1 year ago
@chuckdd4201 Unfortunately they (RHOF) include, in the description of induction requirements, "influential" and as we know there has never been nor will ever be, anyone with the medieval / cetlic / royalty court storyteller ability / with monstrous tech. ability and high IQ humor of Jethro Tull.
weewilly49 1 year ago 3
@chuckdd4201 I think they are all underated, but only by the general public who have no clue about such matters. anyone who is a Tull fan knows where the band members ability lie. there are a few exceptions, like Jeff Hammond, he was perhaps the least talented muscian of the bunch. a rare exception for Anderson's standards.
infodisinfo 1 year ago
@chuckdd4201 No, they were too busy inducting Madonna and other pop singers. Forget the Hall of Fame. It would be an insult to amazing bands like Jethro Tull, Rush, and Yes to be inducted next the the people that somehow make it in these days.
sagewisdom09 1 year ago 2
@chuckdd4201 They are well known all over the world, what could be better? The r'n'r hall of fame is only a way of dimension, but how to measure the art?
shurick924 1 year ago
@chuckdd4201 Martin Barre absolutly shreds on this tune hands down the most underrated i agree completly overshadowed by other mainstream no talent having stealin ass people...
JethroFloyd01 1 year ago 2
@JethroFloyd01 Absolutely F.Y I Love the screen name, Tull and Floyd are my 2 favourite bands of all time. Barre does shread and has never had proper credit. Neither has Anderson for his supurb songwriting and musicianship, but hey, those are the breaks. Thank god there's some ppl out there who know true talent when they hear it.
chuckdd4201 1 year ago
@chuckdd4201 yeah man...i do indeed know true talent....i know artists like Alvin Lee Martin Barre and Gilmour all are extremely talented...but get overshadowed my more mainstream artists.
JethroFloyd01 1 year ago
@chuckdd4201
JT & Martin Barre are well known around the globe. Martin has ingenious musical ideas, but as a guitar player - he is not a virtuouso, he is just near to it. The important thing is spirit, anyway. The "problem" of JT is, that the musical IQ of the crowd is too low ... Don't expect justice in this world. The world is really, really big and we don't know lot of things ...
ptxwk 10 months ago
@ptxwk It's a bit like Dream Theater. The music is just too good to be appreciated by a world that loves things like Lady Gaga...
ruiferreira89 10 months ago 2
@chuckdd4201 Jethro Tull did win the first award for Heavy Metal at the Grammys, though.
aclark141 9 months ago
drpro, I did notice the similarities in progressions too. Jethro tull and the Eagles used to tour together before the Eagles recorded Hotel California...
streak418 2 years ago
All hail Martin Lancelot Barre
Aqualung1989 2 years ago 42
I always felt it was funny that this song had the exact same chord progressions as The Eagles 'Hotel California'...anyone else ever notice this?
drprogensteinphp 2 years ago 2
@drprogensteinphp
The Eagles supported Tull on tour once and poached it
Xstarling1 2 years ago 4
@Xstarling1
Yes I'm aware of that. Back in the very early 70's sometime...but something tells me that they latched onto it when Poco supported Jethro Tull, as both Randy Meisner and Timothy B. Schmit were in that band as well prior to The Eagles. My memory is a bit hazy on that though, Lol.
drprogensteinphp 2 years ago
@drprogensteinphp I noticed visa-versa, by about 6-7 years!
3eyedho 2 years ago
This Got to Be One of my Favorite Tull songs Martin Barre,What a guitar player, The Song is so Strong,I could Play it over and over and Never get Tired of it .You folks have got to see Jethro Tull Live they will Blow you away!!!! if you have never seen them.Keep on truckin J.T.
JLPMGHRS69 2 years ago 6
A MASTERPIECE
rainbowblues1954 2 years ago 2
Who know what pedal the guitar man use?
Cry baby I think,how about you?
manuelmba 2 years ago
Never forget what you used to know, lest you forget yourself!
Nioerd 2 years ago 2
Moving music. Truly awesome guitar solo by Martin Barre, sounds like it's crying. IMO Tull's best album. Brit classic rock at its best. Those were the days (sigh) ...
sugoidessho 2 years ago 4
The days, indeed ! Wiith the frantic flagellating floutist and the Mighty Moody Blues hitting stride at the same time we had pleny of fodderf for the turntables and headphones at the Utica College of Syracuse U library
For a real straight buzz, lisen to " Thinking is the best way to Travel by the Moodies Mike Pinder...and listen on headphones. Woooooeeeeeee.
Tom Loughlin Jr
Utica NY
telsport 2 years ago
Sobering lyrics.
Powerful chord changes,deep flute.
Just friggin 5* ;D
MrChombs 2 years ago 2
I CANT TELL U THE MEMORY'S THIS BRINGS BACK ! tull forever,4 our Benifiet
definemaybe 2 years ago
well there is an old guitarist joke that you learn 2 chords and then get yourself a lawyer before learning a 3rd
CheshireWulf 2 years ago 2
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hotel california is wayyyy better
flightoftheshortguy 2 years ago
but ONLY because YOU say it is.......
BeauJames59 2 years ago
fail :D
roryos 2 years ago
Thank you losif53. This is my favorite song of all time. Ian Anderson is a genius.
mick9m 2 years ago
There's certainly no bitterness or any sense of plagiarism attached to my view on it, although I do sometimes allude, in a joking way, to accepting it as a kind of tribute."
choirgeek11 2 years ago
In Ian Anderson's interview with Songfacts, he makes it clear that he doesn't consider "Hotel California" to be borrowing anything from his song: "It's difficult to find a chord sequence that hasn't been used, and hasn't been the focus of lots of pieces of music. It's harmonic progression is almost a mathematical certainty you're gonna crop up with the same thing sooner or later if you sit strumming a few chords on a guitar.
choirgeek11 2 years ago 4
and here he is talking about it
watch?v=dg_T6yL1gYE
Ayrshirenutter 2 years ago
@Ayrshirenutter
Thanks :)
choirgeek11 2 years ago
The music may have been inspired by the 1969 Jethro Tull song "We Used to Know," from their album Stand up. The chord progressions are nearly identical, and the bands toured together before the Eagles recorded "Hotel California." In a BBC radio interview, Jethro Tull frontman Ian Anderson said laughingly that he was still waiting for the royalties.
choirgeek11 2 years ago
amazing song. i like it more than hotel california (though that's still a great song). stand up is definitely one of their best albums.
themusicman624 2 years ago
If they did- WHAT A TRIBUTE !
Buggerlugz000 2 years ago
The Eagles stole the song Hotel California from Jethro Tull :)
caglarnecelik 2 years ago 3
Great bass line and interesting lyrics. I purchased Stand Up on vinyl at the time of its release and always played it as loud as possible. It sounds even better now thanks to better audio equipment Anyone who grew up with this stuff will have lived through an important period of musical history Im sure that the influence of progressive rock will have helped our understanding of everything
quarky1948 2 years ago