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  • Good choice.

  • Well done Jonathan ! Everyone except the establishment supports Wikileaks !

  • Jonathan, you are great. Thank you for being one of the very few human beings standing up for truth.

  • 11 people are subservient to authority.

  • Surprised the government haven't said wiki leaks have links to al qaeda yet lol

  • How can we sleep while our beds are burning ? ;)

  • Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master."

    -- Commissioner Pravin Lal, "U.N. Declaration of Rights"

  • @gilligilli78 I dislike this bad language. please have a little respect for people.

  • @usefksa ; i didn't say you have to like it and if you think that respekt can be dammage by what i say here, well ... shame on you for believing so .... you call it bad language, i call it sad ignorance for those who would in the slightest feel offended

  • Truth Truth Truth KILLS , Lets be sincere ...

    have you ever heard of - ELIMINATE HIM, HE KNOWS TOO MUCH ????

  • Salute!!! Jonathan you have indeed spoken the truth......Thank You!!!

  • "When the government fears the people you have democracy. When the people fear the government you have tyranny."

  • A-freakin'-men.

  • This new era, this new age, this Aquarian Age constantly becomes more evident to the most observant and advanced people. Since the majority of mankind is trapped in a bottomless pit of ignorance and mental slavery, it is extremely urgent for the advanced few, through study and investigations, to find the causes of mankind's inability to progress and then to explain the discoveries in logically clear revealing teachings. A new way of thinking, speaking and acting must be introduced which...

  • I support Wikileaks

    good video

  • You didn't mention the first point of Woodrow Wilsons fourteen points : "Open covenants of peace, openly arrived at, after which there shall be no private international understandings of any kind but diplomacy shall proceed always frankly and in the public view."

  • great video.. u just got linked by WL on facebook by the way. : )

  • @SkidRowRadio Thanks man, and thanks everybody for the likes. I think this is simple logic, so if anyone attempts to confuse the truth, consider that they are either scared, or in on it.

  • @JonathanToth Liked, favorited, shared on FB and twitter, and I would use it as my featured video on my channel, if it weren't for the fact I get in a lot of political arguments with people who are anti-wikileaks. Keep up the good work.

  • @fram4153

    Thanks Fram, CruxisFire, daveliwanji10 and all you guys supporting freedom of information...especially info that we need to make good decisions on who we vote into office, who we are allowing to run our military and who we are buying products from. I have no interest in knowing codes, troop movements, or methods of insurrection, but I am interested in knowing if people in power are abusing their power. Once I know the truth, it enables me to know who I'm actually doing business with.

  • Great points!

  • I am actually a Canadian, I almost became an American. I love democracy, but more of a socialist than most American as I believe we should take care of the less fortunate in our society, not drive them into bankruptcy just because they have a health problem for example. I actually became a christian in Billings Montana First United Methodist church in the early 70's

  • @jagg1951

    Gotcha...I'm a purist capitalist, meaning, I do good work, I'm honest and transparent with my clients and I don't "compete" (the major problem with big business in the USA). It's amoral capitalism that allows for lies. I do admit, I'm more Ayn Randian about the less fortunate (because I do believe everyone is in control of their destiny and doing exactly what they want to do at all times) but I give to the homeless on occasion, and I help friends and family...there's a balance.

  • @JonathanToth

    we are all no better than what our experiences have made us. being born into richness or poorness. being born to parents who TEACH you to become great or to become a loser is beyond ones destiny. If you were born to a peasant family in pakistan would you be what you are todqay NO!

    Thank God you were blessed with experiences that put you where you are today.Try not to be proud or egotistical about what and who you are. There but for the grace of God go you.

  • @jagg1951

    I'm down...I respect all humankind whether or not I agree with all humankind, and I trust God. I also trust God is guiding and taking care of every human being on this planet...whether every human being believes that or not. If I were born to a peasant family in Pakistan, would I be what I am today? No...but I could be greater than what I am today...it all depends upon what I want, and how far I'm willing to go in my trust of God.

  • @JonathanToth

    I don't understand what you mean by saying you are down.

    God indeed is taking care of everyone but he is also allowing millions to die and suffer everyday. Each of us have a part to play even those who seem to be evil like Judas must as Jesus said to Judas "go do what you have to do" Without Judas there would have been no salvation ... think about that... pray to God you do not have to be a Judas ..it's not really your choice, you have to do what God has assigned for you

  • @JonathanToth

    If I had a million youtube accounts I would like this video a million times.

    Overall (including your comments in this video here) u seem a very god man(Y).

  • @JonathanToth I agree with that one, me for my own my family would belong to the underclass here, but still i managed to get alot of things done and i'm followin a quite good education, cause i was willing to do something for it, i got me a computer not because i could afford, that be far from my limits but i got a computer cause i learned how to repair broken ones, because i didn't have the money to buy one, so seen u're right u can get what u want theres always a way,its wether u find it or n.

  • i will support wiki leaks if the criminals who used criminal acts to get the truth confess and accept the punishnent for those illrgal actions... otherwise they are no better than those you condemn

  • @jagg1951

    What criminal acts are you talking about, and who am I condemning?

  • @JonathanToth

    Any criminal acts used to obtain the information that is leaked by informants. Any laws or privacy acts broken in releasing that information.

    Any one who is condemned or criticized based on information obtained or released illegally.

  • @jagg1951

    As long as any of these informants are blowing the whistle on war crimes or corruption, they should be lauded as heroes and not criminals. Nelson Mandela went to prison for 27 years for outing the corrupt government of South Africa for war crimes against the people. He was freed and went on to become president of his country.

    If you find out your commanding officer is killing civilians, are you telling me you would allow him to continue because you don't want to break a privacy act?

  • @JonathanToth

    If you do not support the integrity of the legal system completely then you undermine it entirely. Either change the laws to make such procedures legal or take the punishement for the crimes you commit in your actions to reveal the truth. You can't have your cake and eat it to. Either all of the laws apply to every one or none of the laws apply to anyone. I do not believe there is no legal option for reporting illegal actions of your commanding officer to the proper authorities.

  • @jagg1951

    What if your commanding officer rebuffs you over and over and the crimes get more severe? What if the proper authorities ignore you as well? What if you are threatened by them to STFU or else?

  • @JonathanToth

    Number one do not become the enemy. I have nothing against whistle blowers, I have said you should not break the law to get information, if you break the law you should not be anonymous but you should answer to the charges against you.

    Yes doing the right thing pre-empts an immoral; law but only if done in concert with the moral laws that have been made to protect our rights. If the law is wrong then change the law. My mom always taught me 2 wrongs do not make a right.

  • @jagg1951

    "Yes doing the right thing pre-empts an immoral"

    Cool man. I can agree with you.

    Sometimes the law isn't up-to-date...

    I don't like to think that innocent people have to wait.

  • @JonathanToth

    I wonder what you mean by the law isnt up to date

    people need laws because they want to legitimize doing what they know is wrong. We wouldnt need laws if everybody just did what was right.

    there were ten commandments, pretty simple stuff, dont kill steal commit adultery lie etc.

    Solomon gained fame having to tell people what the right thing to do was. laws are for immoral people good moral people dont need laws because they do what is right without being forced to.

  • @jagg1951

    "there were ten commandments, pretty simple stuff, dont kill steal commit adultery lie etc."

    ...and Thou shalt not kill.

    You're right again, laws are for immoral people...and when a law needs changing, or re-interpretation, change happens.

    I like the Ten Commandments and I have no problem abiding by them everyday. I wish our government and military and big business could say the same.

  • @JonathanToth

    Sometimes one does not know when the are breaking a commandment like the rich young ruler who went away sad after Jesus showed him he had broken the 1st commandment by putting his love of his wealth above his love of God for example, even tho he thot he kept them he "went away sad" when Jesus told him he would find God if he gave away his wealth. We always need to make a reality check and make sure we are not compromising our integrity to achieve our goals.

  • @jagg1951

    I completely agree with you. Thanks for discussing with me further, so I get where you are coming from.

    I love America, and I believe you do too. I'm excited to help further our goals and understanding of how to be even better. I trust that we can communicate this effectively within out government as well. Peace brother.

  • THE END DOES NOT JUSTIFY THE MEANS. would gandhi rape a child if he knew he could expose the truth by doingb it?

  • @jagg1951

    No, the end does not justify the means...and no, Gandhi would not rape a child just to expose the truth...he would inform of the people of the truth and save the child.

  • Your my hero!

  • Awesome. Well done. Thank you. 

  • I am so proud that Julian Assange is an Australian. He is performing an essential service to the world and the Australian goverment should support their citizen rather than conspiring with americans to bring him down.

  • @IncognitoShhh I agree, and at first, many of the Australian government supported him...I don't know who talked them into reversing their opinions...unless it was US.

  • @IncognitoShhh - In my view the world is in the state it is today thanks to american foreign policy that makes american financial interests part of american national security. I think that if there really are any large cohesive terrorist networks out there that they would disipate if the US ceased to exist. I think the US's blind devotion to any Israeli policy is also going to result in many more wars. The solution is an end to the US of A and Israel.

  • @IncognitoShhh

    Ok...but since that's not going to happen, do you have an alternative plan?

  • @JonathanToth - your comment is a little fatuous. of course this could happen. the country is already fragmented along racial and ecomomic lines. secession is still on the table (as long as it is undertaken via a revolutionary overthrow) The alternative is treat the US the way it treated Nagasaki and Hiroshima. (I believe the Iranians are ready laying the ground work for this plan)

  • @IncognitoShhh I gotcha, so is that your plan?

  • @JonathanToth - No not MY plan. But I am trying to explain how the "remodelling" of the u.s could be achieved. the ignorant americans do not accept that anyone NON-american could in any way be equal to themselves. they wield nukes with super power status. this is demonstrably NOT in the best interests of the world. it is also demonstrably NOT in th best interests of the american people. If your on-board why don't YOU lead the revolution. you would go down in history as a great man.

  • @IncognitoShhh Well historically, change has the most significant effect (and staying power) when leaders use non-violent tactics to show how oppressive governments are wielding their power to the rest of the unknowing populace. I would cite Jesus, Gandhi and Martin Luther King as my favorite examples.

    When you attempt violence against a multi-trillion dollar war machine, you will lose. I'd rather use a more loving, lasting method than trying to fight fire with fire. Peace is the only option.

  • @JonathanToth - Jesus espoused killing a neighbour who covets your wife. he stated that murder was wrong but killing can be justified. I don't think your examples "hold water" Ghandi was a rich young man who turned his back on his culture to become westernised. since his departure his family ahs been in the middle of many murders, and conflicts in both India and Pakistan so this shoots down your claim that non-violent = staying power. I am NOT knowledgable about Mr Kings achievements.

  • @IncognitoShhh Not Jesus, that was Moses...but point being, it's what they accomplished that I'm talking about.

    You don't have to agree with their methods, but historically, they made more LASTING worldwide change than any conqeror.

  • @JonathanToth - conquering is different to the majority disagreeing and taking control of their government. conquering and revolting is totally different.

  • @IncognitoShhh Plus your premise that "ignorant americans do not accept that anyone NON-american could in any way be equal to themselves" is strange to me. I don't know any Americans who think that (at least out loud) and all of us Americans have roots from everywhere else. That's part of the reason that we work well together.

    I'll admit, we've had some asshole, control-freak, fascist leaders now and again, but remember, the people are the people, are the people all over the globe. We are one.

  • @JonathanToth - please see the PM I sent you to clarify why I say americans are ignorant. I would be interested in hearing your rebuttle to that video.

  • This way they are treating Manning, and attempting to justify it, is starting to stink to high heaven. Assuming he did the leaking (which has not been established in a court of law) he did not sell that information. He believed he was doing the morally right thing. He exposed state violence against civilians among other things. A slap on the wrists yes. A prison term maybe (after a trial and not before), torture and lack of due process? No. Never. Nothing justifies that.

  • @MyVeryBesttoYou I believe that if he leaked those videos showing our Tomahawk helicopters taking out Iraqi civilians, props to him...he should get a medal for exposing human rights violations, and the one officer swearing and yelling on the radio to "come on, let us shoot!" should be court martialed for wreckless attempts to kill before he even knew if his targets were combatants.

  • I share your passion for truth and integrity. peace!!

  • @pectopunch Thanks Pecto...I'm hoping our government and military will feel the same soon.

    Transparency is the Apocalypse.

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