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  • I'm getting an echo from the video. Technical difficulties.

  • Perhaps the true test of NVC in using it with others who aren't aware of it, or choose not to be, might be to step out of our selfish perspectives... that everything has to go our way... all the time. The needs of the one and the many. We don't always get our way... and when we learn to be okay with that... then maybe things go a little smoother. Let you know when I get there... LOL

  • My girlfriend has become a teacher of nvc. The problem, as I see it is, that nvc seems to work in her workshops or with people who are also trained in nvc. It works if everybody does it. So it is very easy for her to be empathic with her clients, but it is very diffiicult to be empathic with me.

    On the contrary she gives me the feeling that I´am an idiot not to realize that nvc is the way which can heal the world. Every religion and sect is doing it the same way. So its just another sect.

  • I see what you mean...how about empathizing with wanting to belong to a better way....to a cult.  Instead of moving away from "cult" try to get into its head and I bet you connect in a way that feels more free for both of you.

  • Hmm, well the idea of empathy, for me, is that it is selfrewarding. That means you do anything, also being empathic, because it feels good. Not looking at the outcome. Otherwise it would be just a hyporcratic deal, as the christians or moslems are doing it.

    And if it is so, that you feel good with being an empatic person, you would not try to convince anbody to be empathic. You might suggest it, at the most. But this I often don´t feel with nvc people. Its more like they know how it works.

  • Yeah,I also have the impression,that the idea of Mr. Rosenberg are interesting and might work for him.But my experience with nvc people is an effort from their side to convince you, rather than just being empathic.That is the weakness of this system.I personaly don´t believe that you can "learn" empathy, but it appears when you get in touch with your inner self.But since most of this people don´t have that, developed inside,they try to change the world instead of themself. The old problem.

  • I've met people who had an epiphany and who got frustrated when I didn't immediately accept the path they took to that epiphany. I was also offended by their frustration, but I understand now their persistence - they are learning how best to communicate their success as they go. The path doesn't always teach how to share your experience with others. I am talking about meditation, tai chi, religion, healthy diet... Path/Cult - the name depends on how many follow it and how many understand it.

  • I hear your frustration in not being heard by your girlfriend in a way that meets your needs. When I read your post, I felt sad, because of my need for people to experience being heard and appreciated. Would you be willing to explain to your girlfriend that you don't feel that your perspective has been acknowledged in a way that satisfies your needs?

  • Great stuff this.

    I can't help but make one cynical remark: it's hard to meet the needs of people who never have enough.

    I suppose i just passed judgment, sorry i'm not trained in NVC.

  • naw don't be sorry

  • I love this way of thinking and acting. I tryied it and got wonderfull reactions. Sometimes not at the first try but it can make live more wonderfull.

  • 10:35

  • Alan asking me to define nonviolent communication?

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