The "Stahlhelme" on the Germans in the opening scene are WRONG; those are WW TWO helmets; I guess it was just easy enough for a massed-scene such as this but they are not correct.
The George Peppard character (Lt. Bruno Stachel) is never accepted by his literally more aristocratic peers; they can't stand that he comes from "the lower classes" and behaves precisely as one from that station.
But remember this; those men in the squadron that survived the war would have "gone along" with Hitler for the sake of recapturing some of their past glory but Stachel would have been a real, honest-to-goodness Nazi and would have been PROUD of it!
a plane used in this film was in a fatal accident over wicklow town on august 18 1970 killed 4 people in cluded skeets kelly legendry camerman, in a test for the filming of zeppelin
We had It right back In the 70's & 80's a 25 Inch CRT had better color & resolution than all these televisions now days even If It does claim to be high definition I was at Walmart a few days ago & the plasm did Not look any better than the LCD & My CRT televisions looks better than My LCD Computer monitor.
@ortafunk That's because old CRTs were designed to look good displaying a low resolution composite video signal. Try watching a blu-ray disc on an old CRT TV and a modern LCD, the LCD should win hands down.
Though I guess this movie Is entertaining but the story line does Not seem very realistic a fighter pilot by day come home wine & women at night & why did one pilot say the plane was a death trap without pushing It but another ace pilot could Not figure out the plane had problems? What type of television Is used to watch this movie on I have LED LCD projector 50 + Inch dul color & resolution 22" LCD monitor better 13" CRT good color & resolution JVC 32" CRT good color but can see scanning lines
@ortafunk because bruno was too much in love with his own ambition. he thought he could conquer anything. he did not have fear or caution. the first pilot was cautious. he knew the plane was experimental. bruno did not care. that is the ppint of the story. bruno's own ambition, his own arrogance destroyed him,
@lehighmark , yeah me too. in his younger days he was a talented action actor. I loved that they used replica planes for shooting the scenes, not CGI like Fly Boys.
@fushheads It wsas a Tigermoth. They used slight variations for German 2 seater planes also, but covered them in lozenge camoflauge. It was probably cheaper than building and Albatros C, DFW, or any authentic WW1 2 seaters. They did build the Pfalz D3 pretty accurately although no Pfalzs had fuselages covered in the lozenge style camo.
Still one of my personal favorite movies of Drive-In days!
@Sturmmann, that is because the rifles were wrong. I got a good look at them. They were actually not the WWI Imperial German Army Mauser “Gew” 98 which would have had a rather long and fierce bayonet. These rifles were British No.4, Mk1 Enfield service rifles from "WWII." Enfields had a shorter bayonet as did most rifles in that era to accommodate mechanized warfare where troops sometimes travelled in vehicles, landing craft and aircraft.
@Sturmmann, I might add that I noticed in the movie, Lawrence of Arabia, the Ottoman Turks, who should have been armed with Mauser contract Model 98s similar to the German Imperial Army, were shown armed with British No.4, Mk1 Enfield service rifles too. The studios must have experienced a shortage of the longer World War I Mausers. They could have used shorter WWII German Mauser K98k rifles instead, but just as historically inaccurate.
@Sturmmann, yes, the US Service Rifle Model 1917 (US Enfield) was used by 3 out of 4 US Army troops in WWI. After the contract of essentially the same rifle for the British in .303 British was complete, we found ourselves involved in the war with a need for more rifles. The Model 1903 Springfield was an excellent rifle, but too complicated for rapid production. So, with a change in caliber to .30-06 and a modification to the sights, 2.4 million Model 17 rifles were produced in just two years
Still one of the best war film ever made, top 5 of my favorites (others being Tora Tora Tora, Battle of Britain, Squadron 633 and Saving Private Ryan) and my overall favorite of how the film ended. My favorite James Mason film and best written. Saw the movie when it was shown in drive-ins in 1969 on another screen when we were watching Planet of the Apes. Bought the VHS and now DVD, almost bought the LD version. Kelly's Heroes is still my favorite comedy war film.
@CaptainNomura Aces High is a great film and I give it the edge over the Blue Max which is praise indeed. I could watch any film that Ursula Andress appeared in.
Besides being a war film, it's a story about an average soldier desperately trying to upgrade his life and social standing. In a place where he didn't fit in
Best of all WWI fighter scout movies! The book is also an excellent read. Stachel meets Herman Goring. Stachel is hero for saving child in river. Stachel is also very bad boy!
@thebes56 No I'd nominate Aces High as it captures the naiive attitude of the Upper Class RFC recruits- "Giving the Huns a good thrashing...etc..." Whilst Simon Ward is drinking heavily to combat his terror once at the front... The cast are all superb although my favorite is David Daker (a tv actor) who plays a "batman" He seems to love his job in the RFC and who wouldn't compared to the trenches.....
Read the book! Stachel drinks while he flies and is a very bad boy and even saves a child and becomes a hero! Love this movie too! "the fuel dumps, they got the fuel dumps i tell you!"
I remember walking home from the shops way back when I was 8 years old. I looked up and saw planes fighting and trailing smoke. I ran home to me mum - petrified.
My point is, that I think it´s strange that a scenario that has to be very frightful and disgusting if you are in it can be beautiful when watched in a movie.
The best arial photography I've ever seen. The screenplay and the characters are rather cartoonish, but the photography is supurb. Shot in Ireland, by the way.
@Pat2296 No argument there--It's amazing how you can tell the flying is real, like when Staechel and Willy fly under the bridge. In "Flyboys" and "The Red Baron" they overdid the CGI. lol
This was a great film. I just hope that if this film does get remade, like all movies recently for one reason or another, they actually work on some of the accuracy. For instance, like the previously mentioned issue with the Enfield type 4's. I mean, Gewehr 98s are still fairly plentiful, and European living historians take their craft much more seriously than their American counterparts. To be fair, however, The First World War does not get the media attention in the U.S. as does the Second
I agree man, this movie is terrific. I also hope they never remake it because the remake would suck. They would screw it up by using computers and all that crap it would look so fake! In this movie, everything was actually filmed and it looks great
@hevblade A remake wouldn't be so bad in the hands of the right people. Rumor has it Peter Jackson plans to remake it at some point, and he's an aviation nut who actually owns the Pfalz replica used in the original movie. If anyone can get it right, it's him.
About Flyboys: Who wants to see a computergame, if You can see real aircraft flown by skilled pilots? Besides, Flyboys was really bad. Just one thing: All Germans flew red Fokker DR1:s!
For Blue Max, nine flying aircraft plus a few non-fliers (for crash-scenes) were especially built. And half a dozen planes from the '30:s were also used in the formation scenes.
And as a pilot (well ex-pilot) I can say that many of the flying scines you see in Flyboys are impossible in real life or in there aircraft, but mostley the latter.
One of the few flubs in the movie is German troops rushing from trenches to attack - while armed with WWII vintage Enfield No.4 rifles with short bayonets.
The Max was made to be seen on the large theater screens of the 60s - not the minis they have today or on home screens - the film suffers greatly and loses a lot of the sharpness it had on the big screens.
Peppard actually flew in a lot of the scenes and a lot of hot private pilots competed to be flying extras.
No, why? Flyboys isn't great movie, but air combat CGI scenes were really good (some of this best in this genre). But I have to admit other than commecial and a few clips I haven't watched The Blue Max yet. For a 44 years movie, how much better can air combat look better than in Flyboys? Have you watched Flyboys?
Perhaps, but the "turn on a dime" rapid slip turns to the right that the rotary engined Fokker DR1 tri-planes were capable of were never dipicted in the movie. The Fokker's were slow though and were pretty much obsolete by 1918.
They sure don't make movies as good as they use to. None of those phoney, awful computer graphics in this movie and excellent acting. Even without seeing it, a better movie than the Red Baron.
That too. Of course the bayonets on the original Short Magazine Lee-Enfields used in WWI were about a foot long, longer than the Mauser bayonets. The Germans were shown using the WWII version of the rifle.
Ironically the original Lee-Enfield bayonet was designed as longer than contemporary bayonets to compensate for the rifle being shorter than most of its contemporaries(Mauser, Mannlicher, Lebel, Mosin-Nagant, Krag-Jorgensen, Arisaka) with the exception of the Springfield 1903.
Most of the WW2 movies have erroneous props especialy when it comes to tanks with producers going as far as to dress up Russian tanks to look like German Tigers. The movie Battle of the Bulge is full of this, even going as far in several scenes with model tanks.
I saw on tv that a major Hollywood Prop company was going out of business. Doesn't bode well for historical films.
Of course though, by the time they made "Battle Of The Bulge", there were only 3 Tigers left in existence, none of which were available to the filmakers. "Saving Private Ryan" did the same thing. Also, "Tora Tora Tora" used US planes dressed up to look like Japanese Zeros.
Well at least in video games like the new BattleStations pacifc they get the correct military vehicles, a little easier of course with artwork but accurate netherless.
Check the first few minutes of my review of the game on my channel. They did a pretty good job with it, a very stragic game on the Battle in the Pacific.
Wow 3 Tigers left in existance. I guess the Ruskies made quick work of them on the Eastern Front with the T-34 in masse.
On many 60-70 war movies they took many "creative licenses" when it comes to equipment. Like on many world war 2 movies you see M47 and M48 tanks playing Sherman, Panzer and even KingTiger roles or the M3 Halftrack as the Sdkfz 251.
But even with those mistakes/creative licenses these old movies still rock on both the acting and filming.
They did that in quite a few 50's movies too. The Japanese in "Bridge On The River Kwai" were using Lee Enfield Rifles when they actually used the Arisaka, and that machine gun on the truck that Colonel Saito was gonna use to shoot all the officers was a Vickers Maxim, when they actually used the Hotchkiss, and the esacpe scene had a guard with a Sten submachine gun- the Japs made almost no use of submachine guns other than a few Bergmann style guns.
Also, in "Anzio", the Americans are shown in the landings using Lee Enfields while I believe the Britsh were using M-1 Garands! Nice switcharound there.
Not a war movie, but Bonnie and Clyde (1967) with Warren Beatty and Faye Dunnaway, Clyde was shown using a pistol and a Thompson machine guns. In real life Clyde used a number of BAR's (Browning Automatic Rifes) that he stole from a armory. He cut them down to make them more easy to handle. He never used a Thompson, they lacked the wallop of the BAR.
just to let ye know my neighbour and good friend of my dads who flew the plane thru the bridge in the film was killed on a motorbike on saturday evening aged 66 rip liam
The first German air ace of World War One was Max Immelman. He had an air tactic named the Immelman. This maneuver enabled you to change direction quickly. You flopped upside down and did an iside loop. Max Immelman got 15 confirmed kills then died. German would then give a medal for 16 kills one more than Max Immelman had...thus it was called the Blue Max.
I always thought the "tag line"There was no quiet on the Western front slightly ludicrous.Who the hell thought there was quiet on the Western front?No glory or no honour would have worked better.
It has to be a possibility,but, as I remember it that title was ironic.The hero,Paul Baumann was killed on a day where the official German military communique was.."All quiet on the Western front"
pep was not arrogant just misplaced by german high snobs, trench war then into air war . didnt fit in there place. they never got hands dirty but army did.
With his exacting attention to historic detail, it would be great if Clint Eastwood would make a modern remake of this great film using latest filming technologies, use of actual aircraft of the time (not repainted 1930's era DeHavilland Tiger Moths, etc); not spoil the remake with the absurd, inaccurate "Hollywood" excesses seen in the awful "Flyboys" film; not sure the box office draw would be there, however, for such a remake.
You have no idea, how much I agree with you. Flyboys could've been a great film, but the result was horrible. I've had more fun watching flies on a dog turd.
Sorry, pal. You have some reading to do. After several years of war, both sides had developed aircraft that were capable of flying and fighting at 20,000 feet and above. Men and engines froze, but they did indeed fight at those altitudes.
Could you give me the ISBN number of the book that states the altitude limit for the albatros or foker? As far as I have ever read, most of these planes flew and fought below 6500 ft. In fact most flew best at sea level. I have flown without O2 up to 16,000 feet and I lost the ability to fly effectively fairly quickly
Check out Fighting Aircraft of the 1914-1918 War by Lamberton & Cheeseman, part of the Harleyford Series. (Doesn't show an ISBN, but if you're honestly interested, I'm sure you can look it up--.) You'll see ceilings listed, for example, for the S.E.5a--22,000, Sopwith Camel--24,000, Spad S13--22,300, Albatros DV--20,500, Fokker DrI--19,600 and the Fokker DVII--22,900. Your own experience explains why late in the war, both sides experimented with portable oxygen equipment.
I don't know about it being the single best WWI film- I think the 1930 version of "All Quiet On The Western Front" has that distinction, but it's definitely among the Top 5. The other 3 in that category would have to be "Gallipoli" with Mel Gibson, "Westfront 1918", and either the 1938 version of "The Dawn Patrol" with Errol Flynn, or "The Fighting 69th" with James Cagney.
No CGI, no models or miniatures. All real stunt flying. Still the best WW1 movie ever made.
argebarse 1 month ago
A Jew In-ventted the coal Skuttle Sturm-Trooper helmet in 1915. A.D.
MrSeanodwyer140 1 month ago
The "Stahlhelme" on the Germans in the opening scene are WRONG; those are WW TWO helmets; I guess it was just easy enough for a massed-scene such as this but they are not correct.
SatchmoSings 2 months ago
The George Peppard character (Lt. Bruno Stachel) is never accepted by his literally more aristocratic peers; they can't stand that he comes from "the lower classes" and behaves precisely as one from that station.
But remember this; those men in the squadron that survived the war would have "gone along" with Hitler for the sake of recapturing some of their past glory but Stachel would have been a real, honest-to-goodness Nazi and would have been PROUD of it!
SatchmoSings 5 months ago
the fim is ah cult george peppard is ah good man !! the film is ah orginal from 1917 !! the film is ah anti Wahr !!
andy67discofan 6 months ago
a plane used in this film was in a fatal accident over wicklow town on august 18 1970 killed 4 people in cluded skeets kelly legendry camerman, in a test for the filming of zeppelin
GlAsSaRm 9 months ago
We had It right back In the 70's & 80's a 25 Inch CRT had better color & resolution than all these televisions now days even If It does claim to be high definition I was at Walmart a few days ago & the plasm did Not look any better than the LCD & My CRT televisions looks better than My LCD Computer monitor.
ortafunk 11 months ago
@ortafunk That's because old CRTs were designed to look good displaying a low resolution composite video signal. Try watching a blu-ray disc on an old CRT TV and a modern LCD, the LCD should win hands down.
argebarse 9 months ago
@ortafunk Oh shut up.
We get it, this generation and every fucking thing in it sucks.
We get it!
SamPD2 7 months ago
Though I guess this movie Is entertaining but the story line does Not seem very realistic a fighter pilot by day come home wine & women at night & why did one pilot say the plane was a death trap without pushing It but another ace pilot could Not figure out the plane had problems? What type of television Is used to watch this movie on I have LED LCD projector 50 + Inch dul color & resolution 22" LCD monitor better 13" CRT good color & resolution JVC 32" CRT good color but can see scanning lines
ortafunk 11 months ago
@ortafunk because bruno was too much in love with his own ambition. he thought he could conquer anything. he did not have fear or caution. the first pilot was cautious. he knew the plane was experimental. bruno did not care. that is the ppint of the story. bruno's own ambition, his own arrogance destroyed him,
avalsonline2 10 months ago
This film has an amazing orchestral score by Jerry Goldsmith, one of my favorite film composers...outstanding picture!....this is great film making!
caralvive 11 months ago 3
His best movie by far... great flick.... with this i forgive him for the A-team :)
lehighmark 1 year ago 4
@lehighmark , yeah me too. in his younger days he was a talented action actor. I loved that they used replica planes for shooting the scenes, not CGI like Fly Boys.
Wolfen443 1 month ago
Wait was that a deHavallind Tigermoth?
fushheads 1 year ago
@fushheads Yeah they rebult it as a WW1 fighter, I've seen it.
TheGroundedAviator 11 months ago
@fushheads It wsas a Tigermoth. They used slight variations for German 2 seater planes also, but covered them in lozenge camoflauge. It was probably cheaper than building and Albatros C, DFW, or any authentic WW1 2 seaters. They did build the Pfalz D3 pretty accurately although no Pfalzs had fuselages covered in the lozenge style camo.
Still one of my personal favorite movies of Drive-In days!
klinkthud 8 months ago
I love it when a good war film comes together
Siibillam 1 year ago
those are the dinkiest bayonets ive ever seen 0:06
they look like buttering knives
Sturmmann 1 year ago
@Sturmmann, that is because the rifles were wrong. I got a good look at them. They were actually not the WWI Imperial German Army Mauser “Gew” 98 which would have had a rather long and fierce bayonet. These rifles were British No.4, Mk1 Enfield service rifles from "WWII." Enfields had a shorter bayonet as did most rifles in that era to accommodate mechanized warfare where troops sometimes travelled in vehicles, landing craft and aircraft.
Nanjing03 1 year ago
@Sturmmann, I might add that I noticed in the movie, Lawrence of Arabia, the Ottoman Turks, who should have been armed with Mauser contract Model 98s similar to the German Imperial Army, were shown armed with British No.4, Mk1 Enfield service rifles too. The studios must have experienced a shortage of the longer World War I Mausers. They could have used shorter WWII German Mauser K98k rifles instead, but just as historically inaccurate.
Nanjing03 1 year ago
@Nanjing03
yea good eye on the details.
Few people know about all the bolt action models of WW1.
Most Americans still believe the 1903 Springfield was the backbone of its infantry rather than the Enfield P17.
Sturmmann 1 year ago
@Sturmmann, yes, the US Service Rifle Model 1917 (US Enfield) was used by 3 out of 4 US Army troops in WWI. After the contract of essentially the same rifle for the British in .303 British was complete, we found ourselves involved in the war with a need for more rifles. The Model 1903 Springfield was an excellent rifle, but too complicated for rapid production. So, with a change in caliber to .30-06 and a modification to the sights, 2.4 million Model 17 rifles were produced in just two years
Nanjing03 1 year ago
Extraordinary movie. The best of all!!!
maratiavoador 1 year ago
one of the greatest ww1 movies
123mocker 1 year ago
Still one of the best war film ever made, top 5 of my favorites (others being Tora Tora Tora, Battle of Britain, Squadron 633 and Saving Private Ryan) and my overall favorite of how the film ended. My favorite James Mason film and best written. Saw the movie when it was shown in drive-ins in 1969 on another screen when we were watching Planet of the Apes. Bought the VHS and now DVD, almost bought the LD version. Kelly's Heroes is still my favorite comedy war film.
CaptainNomura 1 year ago
@CaptainNomura Aces High is a great film and I give it the edge over the Blue Max which is praise indeed. I could watch any film that Ursula Andress appeared in.
widlad7 1 year ago
Besides being a war film, it's a story about an average soldier desperately trying to upgrade his life and social standing. In a place where he didn't fit in
talismn1 1 year ago
Nothing like the book but a great film.
turboarrowIII 1 year ago
Great movie, CGI will never match this.
Christmasgoat 1 year ago
i loved flyboys so i gatta find where i can get a copy of this...my dad might have it ill call him now
t1oxETy 1 year ago
Hannibal will live forever!!
ElmarGroenensteijn 1 year ago
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ElmarGroenensteijn 1 year ago
Sill amazes me that film critics downrate this movie.
tilon2000 1 year ago
Great movie! @cornholio435 you're right it's way better than flyboys!
MsTati806 1 year ago
Best of all WWI fighter scout movies! The book is also an excellent read. Stachel meets Herman Goring. Stachel is hero for saving child in river. Stachel is also very bad boy!
girlishfun 1 year ago
that bridge is in my home town that took some skill to fly under that no cgi there
wildbil2007 1 year ago
A great movie!
twohandtap 1 year ago
I think the Best WW1 movie ever made!
thebes56 1 year ago
@thebes56 No I'd nominate Aces High as it captures the naiive attitude of the Upper Class RFC recruits- "Giving the Huns a good thrashing...etc..." Whilst Simon Ward is drinking heavily to combat his terror once at the front... The cast are all superb although my favorite is David Daker (a tv actor) who plays a "batman" He seems to love his job in the RFC and who wouldn't compared to the trenches.....
MrPomdownunder 1 year ago
Read the book! Stachel drinks while he flies and is a very bad boy and even saves a child and becomes a hero! Love this movie too! "the fuel dumps, they got the fuel dumps i tell you!"
girlishfun 1 year ago 2
I saw this movie when I was a little kid, in the theatre where it is really meant to be seen.
aitch3 1 year ago
German's recieve the Blue Max? I thought they recieve the Iron Cross?
MileagePostponed 1 year ago
@MileagePostponed The Blue Max (Pour le Merite) was awarded up until the end of WWI.
Pat2296 1 year ago
There's more than one medal you know.
Fritters87 1 year ago
the blue max in ww1 is what the knights cross is in ww2 one of the highest awards you can get hail germany.
hoss44467xh 1 year ago
I remember walking home from the shops way back when I was 8 years old. I looked up and saw planes fighting and trailing smoke. I ran home to me mum - petrified.
Damn that Blue Max :)
malahammer 1 year ago
Trailers from this era are so much better than that fast-cut nonsense nowadays.
duffeknol 1 year ago 2
It´s strange: War can be so beautiful...at least in movies.
VitoPossilipo 2 years ago
@VitoPossilipo
Even death is beautiful in movies, what's your point?
Cokoholicar 1 year ago
My point is, that I think it´s strange that a scenario that has to be very frightful and disgusting if you are in it can be beautiful when watched in a movie.
VitoPossilipo 1 year ago
this movie was more about a underclass guy trying to break into the upperclass,,,,now view it again.
ERROLCUSTERFLYNN4EVR 2 years ago
They made a porno this movie in the 70's and they didn't change the title.
jasta9 2 years ago
I get a kick out of these dated trailers. The announcers are so melodramatic.
"An epic motion picture experience" and all that.
manorrd 2 years ago 2
Best aerial battles filmed to this day - all real!
Pat2296 2 years ago 28
The best arial photography I've ever seen. The screenplay and the characters are rather cartoonish, but the photography is supurb. Shot in Ireland, by the way.
grabit1 2 years ago
@Pat2296 No argument there--It's amazing how you can tell the flying is real, like when Staechel and Willy fly under the bridge. In "Flyboys" and "The Red Baron" they overdid the CGI. lol
waverly2468 1 year ago
Awesome movie, just wish they could have armed the Germans properly with Gewehr-98's and proper equipment instead of WW2 British guns!! ugh!!!
Awesome overall though !
TeddyEBear1972 2 years ago 2
This was a great film. I just hope that if this film does get remade, like all movies recently for one reason or another, they actually work on some of the accuracy. For instance, like the previously mentioned issue with the Enfield type 4's. I mean, Gewehr 98s are still fairly plentiful, and European living historians take their craft much more seriously than their American counterparts. To be fair, however, The First World War does not get the media attention in the U.S. as does the Second
bigbuse87 2 years ago
I agree man, this movie is terrific. I also hope they never remake it because the remake would suck. They would screw it up by using computers and all that crap it would look so fake! In this movie, everything was actually filmed and it looks great
hevblade 2 years ago 2
@hevblade A remake wouldn't be so bad in the hands of the right people. Rumor has it Peter Jackson plans to remake it at some point, and he's an aviation nut who actually owns the Pfalz replica used in the original movie. If anyone can get it right, it's him.
avi8r1 2 years ago
About Flyboys: Who wants to see a computergame, if You can see real aircraft flown by skilled pilots? Besides, Flyboys was really bad. Just one thing: All Germans flew red Fokker DR1:s!
For Blue Max, nine flying aircraft plus a few non-fliers (for crash-scenes) were especially built. And half a dozen planes from the '30:s were also used in the formation scenes.
YDDES 2 years ago
And as a pilot (well ex-pilot) I can say that many of the flying scines you see in Flyboys are impossible in real life or in there aircraft, but mostley the latter.
TheGroundedAviator 2 years ago
One of the few flubs in the movie is German troops rushing from trenches to attack - while armed with WWII vintage Enfield No.4 rifles with short bayonets.
The Max was made to be seen on the large theater screens of the 60s - not the minis they have today or on home screens - the film suffers greatly and loses a lot of the sharpness it had on the big screens.
Peppard actually flew in a lot of the scenes and a lot of hot private pilots competed to be flying extras.
They don't make em like Max..
sprucezeus 2 years ago
Wow, I didn't know Peppard actually flew. Very cool! This is one of my favorite movies.
edybeast 2 years ago
Yup. Peppard fell in love with flying after this movie and kept doing it for as long as he could.
grabit1 2 years ago
Epic movie even if its a bit old..
JaguarOFcomedy 2 years ago 2
this movie is better than anything CGI has produced for an "air combat themed movie
oberltMBowden23 2 years ago
I don't know man, check out ''Flyboys'' (2006), great CGI.
Nik123dj 2 years ago
ur kidding right?
oberltMBowden23 2 years ago
No, why? Flyboys isn't great movie, but air combat CGI scenes were really good (some of this best in this genre). But I have to admit other than commecial and a few clips I haven't watched The Blue Max yet. For a 44 years movie, how much better can air combat look better than in Flyboys? Have you watched Flyboys?
Nik123dj 2 years ago
ROFLMAO
"I wonder if you as good as you think you are."
"In....or out of bed?"
Rofl
If you like that then freeze on watch the frames from 2:22-2:25, rofl frickin hilarious i love it.
I havent seen the movie yet, but I want to.
Great UP!
weenology 2 years ago
greatest war movie of all time
oberltMBowden23 2 years ago
Great movie! George Peppard is good as the cold distant and driven Stachel. Ursala Andress in her prime was absolutely stunning.
ynp1978 2 years ago
I saw this one in the movies when it came out.
jazzfan19605 2 years ago
Thank U
hug2046 2 years ago
Best WW1 movie.
D4M4G3R87 2 years ago
Perhaps, but the "turn on a dime" rapid slip turns to the right that the rotary engined Fokker DR1 tri-planes were capable of were never dipicted in the movie. The Fokker's were slow though and were pretty much obsolete by 1918.
Longlakedreaming 2 years ago
They sure don't make movies as good as they use to. None of those phoney, awful computer graphics in this movie and excellent acting. Even without seeing it, a better movie than the Red Baron.
rbf100 2 years ago
Of course the Germans in this movie were armed with Lee Enfields when they actually used Mausers.
Pbirv 2 years ago
don't forget the socket bayonets
RollandB 2 years ago
That too. Of course the bayonets on the original Short Magazine Lee-Enfields used in WWI were about a foot long, longer than the Mauser bayonets. The Germans were shown using the WWII version of the rifle.
Pbirv 2 years ago
Ironically the original Lee-Enfield bayonet was designed as longer than contemporary bayonets to compensate for the rifle being shorter than most of its contemporaries(Mauser, Mannlicher, Lebel, Mosin-Nagant, Krag-Jorgensen, Arisaka) with the exception of the Springfield 1903.
Pbirv 2 years ago
Most of the WW2 movies have erroneous props especialy when it comes to tanks with producers going as far as to dress up Russian tanks to look like German Tigers. The movie Battle of the Bulge is full of this, even going as far in several scenes with model tanks.
I saw on tv that a major Hollywood Prop company was going out of business. Doesn't bode well for historical films.
valhala56 2 years ago
Of course though, by the time they made "Battle Of The Bulge", there were only 3 Tigers left in existence, none of which were available to the filmakers. "Saving Private Ryan" did the same thing. Also, "Tora Tora Tora" used US planes dressed up to look like Japanese Zeros.
Pbirv 2 years ago
Well at least in video games like the new BattleStations pacifc they get the correct military vehicles, a little easier of course with artwork but accurate netherless.
Check the first few minutes of my review of the game on my channel. They did a pretty good job with it, a very stragic game on the Battle in the Pacific.
Wow 3 Tigers left in existance. I guess the Ruskies made quick work of them on the Eastern Front with the T-34 in masse.
valhala56 2 years ago
On many 60-70 war movies they took many "creative licenses" when it comes to equipment. Like on many world war 2 movies you see M47 and M48 tanks playing Sherman, Panzer and even KingTiger roles or the M3 Halftrack as the Sdkfz 251.
But even with those mistakes/creative licenses these old movies still rock on both the acting and filming.
bfahren 2 years ago
They did that in quite a few 50's movies too. The Japanese in "Bridge On The River Kwai" were using Lee Enfield Rifles when they actually used the Arisaka, and that machine gun on the truck that Colonel Saito was gonna use to shoot all the officers was a Vickers Maxim, when they actually used the Hotchkiss, and the esacpe scene had a guard with a Sten submachine gun- the Japs made almost no use of submachine guns other than a few Bergmann style guns.
Pbirv 2 years ago
Also, in "Anzio", the Americans are shown in the landings using Lee Enfields while I believe the Britsh were using M-1 Garands! Nice switcharound there.
Pbirv 2 years ago
Not a war movie, but Bonnie and Clyde (1967) with Warren Beatty and Faye Dunnaway, Clyde was shown using a pistol and a Thompson machine guns. In real life Clyde used a number of BAR's (Browning Automatic Rifes) that he stole from a armory. He cut them down to make them more easy to handle. He never used a Thompson, they lacked the wallop of the BAR.
Longlakedreaming 2 years ago
It's a damn shame that this hasn't had a Blu-Ray release yet.
barcode1000101 2 years ago
no freaking CGI, this movie rox!
girlishfun 2 years ago 13
that shot at 2:45 is so great.
jazz4 2 years ago
just to let ye know my neighbour and good friend of my dads who flew the plane thru the bridge in the film was killed on a motorbike on saturday evening aged 66 rip liam
cosworthtuner 2 years ago
Really? You knew Derek Piggott?
barcode1000101 2 years ago
RIP Liam. ss cos. that was one helluva stunt.
flibideegibbit 2 years ago
can somebody please post the whole movie
monkeyapplenerd 2 years ago
i always thought the girl who played heidemanns wife was way nicer than ursula andress
t5y665yrty56 2 years ago 2
I always had the same opinon, cheers.
GekkoKamen 2 years ago 2
I thought they were both VERY attractive, but Ursula Andress is more sexy, Heidemanns wife more the girl you want to get married to.
BigBadassR 2 years ago 2
The first German air ace of World War One was Max Immelman. He had an air tactic named the Immelman. This maneuver enabled you to change direction quickly. You flopped upside down and did an iside loop. Max Immelman got 15 confirmed kills then died. German would then give a medal for 16 kills one more than Max Immelman had...thus it was called the Blue Max.
BillyJack7 2 years ago
the first fighter planes werent even armed pilots used to shoot at each other with pistols
t5y665yrty56 2 years ago
I always thought the "tag line"There was no quiet on the Western front slightly ludicrous.Who the hell thought there was quiet on the Western front?No glory or no honour would have worked better.
ShahOfBlahII 2 years ago
Perhaps it's a reference to the book and film "All Quiet on the Western Front"
seacowcorby 2 years ago
It has to be a possibility,but, as I remember it that title was ironic.The hero,Paul Baumann was killed on a day where the official German military communique was.."All quiet on the Western front"
ShahOfBlahII 2 years ago
Good film... terrible trailer.
clivetemple 2 years ago
Peppard suited that role to a T. The arrogant, ruthless German.
adebarde 3 years ago
pep was not arrogant just misplaced by german high snobs, trench war then into air war . didnt fit in there place. they never got hands dirty but army did.
tj
terryjohn 2 years ago 2
Bellissimo!!!
barzullo 3 years ago
damn buggers got ginger, poor chap
tally ho
ajbarnstormer 3 years ago
With his exacting attention to historic detail, it would be great if Clint Eastwood would make a modern remake of this great film using latest filming technologies, use of actual aircraft of the time (not repainted 1930's era DeHavilland Tiger Moths, etc); not spoil the remake with the absurd, inaccurate "Hollywood" excesses seen in the awful "Flyboys" film; not sure the box office draw would be there, however, for such a remake.
jjtopp99 3 years ago
You have no idea, how much I agree with you. Flyboys could've been a great film, but the result was horrible. I've had more fun watching flies on a dog turd.
Nightbreed24 3 years ago 2
I love "Flyboys". I thought it was much better than most of the crud they show these days.
whirlwind6 3 years ago
Actually Peter Jackson has been interested in doing a remake of "The Blue Max".
Pbirv 2 years ago
a hunred million times better than flyboys
cornholio435 3 years ago 25
For sure
Funkadelic6969 3 years ago 3
Darn right! AMC has been showing this recently, I can't stop watching every time I see it...
Willysmb44 3 years ago 2
@cornholio435
fully agree i have flyboys it just sucks. I hate unrealistic films!!!
GermanEliteKiller 1 year ago
@cornholio435 Agreed. Flyboys was a bad joke compared to this film. And I love WW1 aerial combat films.
Redlegpete 1 year ago
Did he say 4 miles above the front? That would be over 20,000 feet! sorry but that is way off! more like 10,000 feet!
elroto 3 years ago 2
Sorry, pal. You have some reading to do. After several years of war, both sides had developed aircraft that were capable of flying and fighting at 20,000 feet and above. Men and engines froze, but they did indeed fight at those altitudes.
tarheels565 3 years ago 3
Could you give me the ISBN number of the book that states the altitude limit for the albatros or foker? As far as I have ever read, most of these planes flew and fought below 6500 ft. In fact most flew best at sea level. I have flown without O2 up to 16,000 feet and I lost the ability to fly effectively fairly quickly
elroto 3 years ago
Check out Fighting Aircraft of the 1914-1918 War by Lamberton & Cheeseman, part of the Harleyford Series. (Doesn't show an ISBN, but if you're honestly interested, I'm sure you can look it up--.) You'll see ceilings listed, for example, for the S.E.5a--22,000, Sopwith Camel--24,000, Spad S13--22,300, Albatros DV--20,500, Fokker DrI--19,600 and the Fokker DVII--22,900. Your own experience explains why late in the war, both sides experimented with portable oxygen equipment.
tarheels565 3 years ago 2
1916/1917
Sopwith Camel
Service ceiling 21,000 ft (6,400 m)
flyboyer808 3 years ago 3
hey! that was filmed at baldonnel!(irish air corps base)
jojoflynnlucylynn 3 years ago
This is a classic movie, but I think it would be better if they stuck closer to the book.
Beefliverpie 3 years ago
Spectacular film! Massively under-rated! As powerful in its own was as FROM HERE TO ETERNITY or THE GREAT GATSBY.
LSR1963 3 years ago 2
i agree it is way underrated.
wbaker7 3 years ago 2
Best WW1 film ever, in the top of war movies. Excellant in every way.
valhala56 3 years ago 2
I don't know about it being the single best WWI film- I think the 1930 version of "All Quiet On The Western Front" has that distinction, but it's definitely among the Top 5. The other 3 in that category would have to be "Gallipoli" with Mel Gibson, "Westfront 1918", and either the 1938 version of "The Dawn Patrol" with Errol Flynn, or "The Fighting 69th" with James Cagney.
Pbirv 2 years ago
True, I should have prefaced it as the best Ariel combat WW1 movie. Thanks for the heads up on the Fighting 69th and Dawn Patrol. Never saw those.
valhala56 2 years ago
George Peppard was a first rate actor and he proved it in this movie.
ChickletSalad 3 years ago 5
This movie is one of the greatest aviation films ever madee.
Nissanblb 3 years ago 4