Isn't this a George Soros Company?? You know George Soros, who kills his own people and a pawn for the Rothchilds, you know the George Soros Zionist Pig...
Conservative: I support the unaleninable right to life, libery, and the pursuit of happines. Government is designed to defend this principle and nothing else.
Progressive: You have the right to life, some liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, but if you fail, you have the right to the liberties and pursuits of others. Rights are granted/taken by governments at the whim of the masses and are not self evident. Collective rights surpass the unaleniable, uh, nonexistant rights of the individual.
Do we really have to resort to such obnoxious propoganda that caricatures a viewpoint into obscurity? I'm very progressive but I'm equally capable of recognizing that just because someone disagrees with me doesn't mean they are heartless and anti-human. Besides, these aren't even true in all instances: Civil Rights Act 1964, Voting Rights Act 1965, Philadelphia Plan were all supported by more REPUBLICANS than Democrats... Should we really anticipate ANY long-term shifts in opinion with this?
I'm not conservative, and yet even I can recognize the stupidity of this video.
Conservatives are against the State managing health care, thus conservatives are against all people having health care? Ah, the stupidity hurts my brain!
I can't for the life of me understand why soc,lib,progressives need to shove everything they want down America's throat,Fuck off and leave those of us alone who are doing just fine,the wealth they want to steal was generated by our system of entupanurship that they love to bash,greed is not nessesarily bad,the war on poverty has been genocide for blacks.WHERE IS JOHN GALT! four legs good two legs baaaad
Last time I checked all of those things could also be done by people taking a stand on their own. Companies can't survive without customers and will undoubtedly change if enough people boycott them. And also the rich got rich by working hard or taking risks to better themselves. If you did that would you appreciate the slacker who wont work taking half of your paycheck?
@jcmurray88 I hear ya, but I don't see the majority of people as 'responsible, well-educated/informed passionate folks'. Maybe the younger are mor e informed, I hope so..Look at recent history in the U.S. How effective were'the people'? The fact is, there's a whole lot of citizens that make bad choices because it's 'easy' and frankly don't deserve to drag the nation down with their apathy.
one of these days all of you socialist assholes will have to realize that you cannot tax us into prosperity. a free market and the entrepreneurial spirit where your creativity sets the limits and where your own capital at stake are the only way to truly thrive. that is when human potential will truly be unlocked.
A nice sentiment, but most people aren't born with enough capital that they can risk it, therefore only those who start with capital can reach their true potential.
When Palin becomes POTUS in 2012, she will put an end to liberalism and progressivism once and for all! America has been and always forever will be an extreme conservative country!
I did study American history and political science as an undergraduate. And you misused "there." It should be "their," as in their definition of conservatism.
How many of your conservative buddies have succeeded?Pinochet?Batista?Reagan?King George?-All failures. BTW-Hitler was a fascist and fascism falls on the right of the political sprectrum, not the left. Ike was hardly a conservative. He was a progressive Republican in many ways. He supported unions, New Deal institutions, rights of workers, he didn't trust warmongers, supported the 90% tax bracket on the rich,etc. His VP, Nixon would be considered a liberal now by cons for his domestic policy.
Apparently you didn't read what my comment was replied to. My comment was replied to someone who was writing about dictators from the right and was assuming that dictators only came from the right. So your comment was both unnessesary and ignorant.
If your comment was a reply to someone's, you should make it appear as a reply by having it nested under the original comment, like this one. hannicullen's comment was both relevant and well intended.
This video hit it right on the bullseye of what PROgressives are all about and what they've achieved in history. KKKonservatives are always the ones pushing us back into the dark ages... in the land where women can't vote, where blacks should be picking cotton, where idiots think being gay is a choice and the land where only white kristian men become president.
Hey, one can go back since the beginning of time and conservatives have always ended up, eventually, being on the wrong side of every issue. From slavery, to civil rights, to women's rights, to no child labor, to 40 hour work week, to roads for the country, to utilities for the country, to safe water and food, to... You get the idea. My liberal today is your conservative in 30 years.
And for the record, I care about people. I volunteer for the American Cancer Society, and I donate my money to several charitable foundations. But it's just not the gov's business to tell me to be charitable. Find THAT in the Constitution. (Since when was expressing an individ opinion propaganda?)
YOU live in AMERICA. We're all in this together, if you don't like it and want to have a "leave me alone every man for himself" attitdue then get OUT and go live on an isolated island.
I'm not a conservative, I wouldn't know. I don't make tons of $, but a chunk of it goes to Soc Sec with each paycheck. Our gov doesn't invest it and borrows against it, so I say adieu to every dollar. Soc Sec isn't a bad idea, but it shouldn't be mandatory. The last time I checked, forced support of others was called Socialism. I'd rather have the chance to invest that money on my own. Not b/c I want to be better than others, but b/c I think I can do a better job managing my own assets.
You guys really need to get over this fear of socialism that the reich has instilled into the American consciousness. When you brand even a moderate government program like Soc Sec as socialism, it says something. I don't fear capitalism for I know that the best system is some mix of the two - a balance. You are no different from the Trotsky followers I used to discuss politics with, who feared and hated captilism so much. The other side really isn't so big, bad and scary.
Since my grandfather lived on it for 30 years, and my father is now enjoying a comfortable retirement with it.
Of course, if you think one can only be proud of something if it is much, much better than what other people have (conservative definition of "good"), then I guess it doesn't meet your wants.
I have nothing against the term "progressive", but I still preferred the term "Liberal". The fascist "conservative" party in America has spent the last 20 years trying to turn the word Liberal into a dirty word.
It is LONG PAST time we returned the favor and started exposing "conservatism" for what it is. Stark greed and authoritarianism trying to secure wealth and rule by their own "elite" few.
There is nothing more ANTI-American than the alleged "conservative party" in America.
People should spell it "Konservative" from now on. Great post, what in the world is Konservative about a an $8.9 TRILLION defecit? Over 70% of that not even being spent on our own country.
Personally I like the word Progressive rather than Liberal because Liberal only encompases "freedoms", and while I LOVE freedom, I also love technological, economical and social progress. So I think the term "Progressive" balls all those great things into one making it a better word.
face the facts you republiicans. your furor favors corporate rights and progress over the middle class. distroying the quality of life that made this nation great is the neo-con agenda. get a brain and help expose them.
what r they talking about bush just passed a bill to help make sure water is clean. And republicans are for many things like protecting marriage. not killing babies keeping the second amendment in tact
If you want to protect marriage you make divorce illegal, not forbid people in love to get married you stupid fuck.
And if you don't want to look like an idiot you should take an English class and pay attention. Nice grammar and spelling. It really makes it easy to take your opinion seriously.
Protecting marriage from what?? More like HATE against gays who don't choose to be that way. Killing babies? Who says life starts the second the sperm hits the egg? More like hate against rape victims and a woman's choice. Sure a woman should not wait too long to decide, I'm against late term abortions, but there should still be a choice in the begining. SEX EDUCATION prevents abortions, maybe if you KONservatives weren't so ignorant you'd help save lives.
Well, except "social security" is blatantly unconstitutional. Don't ask so called "progressives" to read the constitution because it gets in their way. So called "progressives" overthrew the constitution and turned the federal "government" into our bloated 900 lb domineering mother. They destroyed states rights AND local control. So called "conservatives" actually DO love tax breaks for the rich nowadays though.
Yeah right, the last time a Democrat was in office the government was so bloated that we actually had a budget surplus and peace talks around the world.
Republicans are just as bloated, they're just hipocritical about it. In fact the whole american political machinery is bloated either way - so I rather our government do something for all of us with that bloat other than protect someone else's oil companies and private mercenary troups.
@flydaedalus government is the problem... you try to make it do things for everone but it still serves itself and the special interests that donate campaign money
It's Progressives(not Konservatives) and DEISTS(not Kristians) like Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson who made the Constitution in the first place you dumb fuck.
This ad is very factual. Conservatives have fought against social change and progress ever since they tried to justify slavery. Most conservatives left the Democratic party when FDR established the New Deal. The remaining conservatives left when LBJ passed civil rights legislation. Being anti-abortion is now their only cause.
We have stripped away slavery, sharecropping, immigration quotas, predatory business, limited voting and Jim Crow. All of those were, at a time, American values. "The right to own property, keeping voting safe, maintaining tradition."
What is it that you want to conserve so badly? And looking back at our brief history as a nation, what were they trying to conserve?
Shows how much you know you dumb English kunt. Konservatives really are against these things and this is only the tip of the iceburg, they left so much out. This video was actually being "nice" to you Konservative cunts.
Our country has gone to the dogs do to people like you. If it was up to you Konservatives, blacks would still be picking cotton, women would be stripped from all rights and gays would be hanged for the crime of being who they are. I bet that sounds like music to your ears pig.
LAZY?? Go back to your golf course pork face. And in this country it's spelled Konservative with a K because you people are a bunch of hate-filled, ignorant, polluting slime ball scum.
Oh yea you Konservatives work so hard you spend your days telling others what yo do then you come home and your hispanic immigrant maid wipes your ass for you. How did you make most of your money? Dady's trust fund? Shut the fuck up you English twit.
Why are you here hating on Progressives then you moron?? Being a Progressive has very similar values to that of Labour Party consisting mostly of social Democrats.
To be fair, this add doesn't mention the security issues. But that would probably take up the whole thirty seconds to even begin to do justice to both sides.
BEST: the second ad, with music. People respond to the combo of music and message.
As for those with "anti-abortion " rhetoric -- it is worse to have unwanted children who grow up abused in various ways, including neglect.
IRONIC: Many "conservatives" who oppose "killing the unborn" have no problem at all with patriotically sending our youth to a misguided cesspool like Iraq to be killed or maimed for life!
I'm against moralizing the use of force through government. Progressive ideology advocates against property, and human rights. People are only usefull to progress the goals of the state. No one has any choice over their life, liberty, and property when it violates the states interests, or ... "The social good". "progressive" enslavement has been bought by the socialism and communism of Hitler, Mao, Lenin, and Stalin also. I will choose individualism instead.
This comment has received too many negative votesshow
The funny thing is if you look at the numbers the majority of the wealthy are Liberals...figure that one! Look at Forbes list...Liberal after Liberal after Liberal
I would like to see "Progerssives" fight for the rights of the most innocent humans...the unborn
Social Securiy is a system that will go bankrupt by 2046...by 2010 there will be more people withdrawing that those putting in
So what this ad sayss is put your faith in Big Goverment.....no thanks I can look out for myself
You can take care of yourself? You wouldn't need a trial lawyer if wrongly accused you of a crime? I guess that you will test all of your food, air, water since you don't want government concerned with clean air, water, food, etc standards. What you are is a Social Darwinist, with no care about those who may not be able to fend for themselves in the economic jungle.
The people on the Forbes list are hardly progressives, they are corporatists who are inherantly economically conservative.
hey this is a great idea. i know.... how about half of the libs in the country pretend to be conservatives and then you guys can argue with yourselves. hey you might even win the argument like half the time instead of like ...never. by the way i am against clean air and water. i also hate feeding poor children and old people. ridiculous! oooh ohhh i heard a rumor that liberals hate breathing.... yeah.. so... take that!
Hilarious, you think that child labor laws, safe food, air and water standards, etc are hilarious? You must be the kind of guy that laughs at auto accidents. Regressive is Bush/Rove and company who want to take us back to the guilded age of the 19th century by eliminating the progress that the Democratic Party and unions fought so hard for in the 20th century.
Yeah, that horrible tirant, FDR. How dare he be popular enough to get elected four times.
Someone mentioned earlier about the "tired worn-out Mac vs PC ad takeoff". You wanna know what's tired and worn out? -The tired worn out conservative diatribe characterizing as "Marxist" or "socialist" any type of government spending that doesn't involve blowing things up.
This comment has received too many negative votesshow
Progressives are dumb. they wantto kill people. lol. PROGRESSIVE PEOPLE KILL BABIES ITS TRUE. lol. I just know im gonna get like 80 thumbs down for saying that but its my beleif. Im a conservative and proud of it!
Only an indoctrinated neo-con could bracket a sentence about killing babies with lol. Thanks for sharing your heartless nature and extreme ignorance with the world at large, Mr. Hippo. And for aligning your idiocy with the Conservatives. I'm sure they're glad to have you.
We need to expose the con in conservitave, but I think you just did... By "Lolling" at your own insult. As if you were serious at first then you go around and laugh at the subject. What an asswipe.
This comment has received too many negative votesshow
They do kill babies -- abortion. They'll suck the brains out of an unborn's head until the skull collapses and think, "A constitutional right has just been exercised."
and conservatives will let more and more orphans pile into orphanages were most of them will end up killing someone or adding to the drug problems in the country.
and without legal abortions, people are just going to go backdoor.
if u outlaw abortions its not going to stop being from having them. they're just going to try riskier ways of it
I'm a progressive, but the one thing I won't budge on is universal health care.
Why?
The next time I'm shovelled through an appointment (by closing time, thank goodness) with the wrong prescription, an incomplete diagnosis, and a complete disregard for patient/doctor interaction (didn't even tell me her name!), I'll be sure to tell you.
LauraJean~ From your post I have no idea which side you're on. Every aspect of the appointment scenario you describe is based on the profit-oriented structure of our current healthcare system. Which seems like an endorsement of universal healthcare, until one looks back to the first sentence of your post.
From reading your comments, I can't help but wonder if the "but" should be an "and".
This comment has received too many negative votesshow
Are you serious? Do you think for one moment that anyone is buying this thinly-veiled BS? You can run from the label LIBERAL but we all know you can't shed it because you've earned it a thousand times over. And I hope APPLE sues you for ripping off their creative.
There's nothing wrong with being liberal. Without liberalism the Renaissance, Industrial Revolution, anything that ends with revolution or evolution or upgrade would never have happened. Change is a part of life, and progressive and liberal are synonyms.
Exactly. I conservatives are in denial of pretty much any and all change. Even when scientific evidence is given to them, they ignore it because it doesn't support their "beliefs." Extreme conservatives would like for rich white guys to rule the planet and for the rest of us to live in tiny huts. Change is the way of nature. You can't fight it.
This comment has received too many negative votesshow
Social Security had an IOU in it the moment it was created. Nice job Progressives. And for the last time, NATIONAL HEALTHCARE WON'T WORK. Ask Cananda.
LOL. Gimme a break folks, who doesn't make a typo here and there? It's one extra letter! Its not like he wrote "Tasmania" when he meant to write "Canada". Sheesh. --no offense meant to brbruner if brbruner is not a male person --. Petty crap like focusing on a typo only weakens your arguement. FYI.
First of all - it's called Canada not Cananda. Second of all - People in Canada are happy with their healthcare. Third - It was the Republicans who insisted on Social Security having not being a fully funded lockbox. So good work Repugs.
First. I can't have one typing err. Tough crowd. As far as SS. Every party has raped it from its creation starting with your beloved FDR. So for the Progressive party to state that its responsible for creating SS is sad thats all you have to show. Also, Canadians are not happy. If you have a cold its great. If you need major surgery, you are screwed.
SS helped us out of the depression. The idea is that every generation pays for the one before it, in hopes that the next will pay for them. It's a chain of helping.
brbruner: Conservatives like to maintain the status quo. Hence the name. Progressives want democratic Progress - ie: All Americans having equal rights, equal opportunities, etc. - again... hence the name. The former have always been led by rich, powerful men who are jealously protecting their money and influence. The former have always followed democratic ideals. Bill of Rights, Constitution, etc. We are the wealthiest nation on the planet. Universal healthcare is VERY do-able.
This is the BEST and I hope it's selected. Why? It will grab everyone's attention - isn't that step 1? I did love the other ones, but people respond very well to satire.
wow. this was really freaking retarted. not an bit of truth in it at all. i'm sure that the con guy was a real life actual conservative. i mean where could they possibly find a liberal to portray a conservative and make them seem like complete idiots it's not like they work or anything.
Yeah... and the PC guy in the Mac commercials is an actual PC, right? Thanks for sharing. The brain-power of the modern conservative movement is astonishing..... Rush? Is that you?
I found your 4 videos on thinkprogress. I like this one by far the least. Not just is the Apple/Windows format tired & old, but the ad itself is crude and just unsympathetic. It's like an attack ad, and is more likely to turn people off than convince anyone - hell, I'm a progressive and was turned off by it.
Agree with this comment. The PC/Mac parody was only funny the first time it was on utube - last year. Bad writing, a bad message, a bad concept and bad editing. I vote skip these two and hone-in on the other ones.
I tend to agree with habeebee in essence. I truly liked all 4 ads, but the Mac/PC ads were I liked from a "chuckle factor" standpoint. The first ad, (the one with the checkmarks) seemed the most message-oriented and straightforward. For that, it gets my vote. However, I would like to see all 4 of them on TV. The neo-cons have done a tremendous job is vilifying the words Progressive and Liberal. In fact, most people don't even know what these words actually mean in a political sense anymore.
Sweetkittenpie: You may have answered your own question. You asked why SS was on the list, then relented that it "was" a good thing, but is broken now IYO. The ad is about how Progressives made things happen, against the status quo policies of Conservatives. Whether you're prepared to admit it or not, most of the Human Rights initiatives in American History have been passed by Progressives at the vehement opposition of Conservatives. And so it continues today.
"In the absence of the gold standard, there is no way to protect savings from confiscation through inflation. The financial policy of the welfare state requires that there be no way for the owners of wealth to protect themselves. This is the shabby secret of the welfare statists' tirades against gold. Deficit spending is simply a scheme for the confiscation of wealth." Alan Greenspan, Federal Reserve chairman.
This video is nothing more than a straw man argument. I don't align myself with the conservatives one bit, but I hate how this kind of polarizing stuff is shaping the 'debate' in America.
Let's just make fun of everybody who disagrees with us, that proves we are right!
Have you objected to Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly or FOX News in the last fifteen years because you "hate how this kind of polarizing stuff is shaping the 'debate' in America"? Didn't think so.
Have you protested Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly, or FOX News in the last fifteen years because you "hate how this kind of polarizing stuff is shaping the 'debate' in America"? Didn't think so.
Just because you believe it's polarizing doesn't mean it isn't true. Explain the "straw man?" Conservatives (and their apologists) have f*cked us into a big bloody hole, yet you get smarmy becasue a Progressive intitution puts out a cute and, yes, harmless, little ad. There is no comparison and quit with the "two wrongs don't make a right" crap-ola. Take the blinders off pal!
Fine I'll point a gun at you and take your money. There's welfare. I need your money. Gimme.
Besides, everyone knows the War on Poverty, War on Terror, War on Drugs, War on Global Warming, etc. are all a lie designed to get us to give up your liberty to a big police state.
Cyrus: Spoken like a true neo-con. Out of curiosity; how do you feel about No-Bid Contracts and Governmental Favoritism being given to corporations for campaign contributions?
Makes you all warm and fuzzy just reading those words, huh?
I agree about the polarization comment, but at the same time I'm glad to see some Progressives pointing out where most of the Human/Civil Rights we take for granted actually came from. As I stated elsewhere on this thread, the neo-cons have done a great job of burying the true political definition of Progressive with their rhetoric. This isn't my favorite ad by a long shot, but I do like it.
This ad needs to be spread through out the internet, with links and embedding on message boards and social pages. The internet allows messages like this to be seen.
I agree, the leadership isn't progressive, but there are a few very progressive people in the Democratic party. It's up to us to push those people to the forefront.
Isn't this a George Soros Company?? You know George Soros, who kills his own people and a pawn for the Rothchilds, you know the George Soros Zionist Pig...
maxtrans67 3 months ago
Conservative: I support the unaleninable right to life, libery, and the pursuit of happines. Government is designed to defend this principle and nothing else.
Progressive: You have the right to life, some liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, but if you fail, you have the right to the liberties and pursuits of others. Rights are granted/taken by governments at the whim of the masses and are not self evident. Collective rights surpass the unaleniable, uh, nonexistant rights of the individual.
CWSmith03111982 9 months ago
Progressivism crosses party lines.
I believe Republicans used to be the Progressive Party until the 1930'sish.
Hello59239 10 months ago
Do we really have to resort to such obnoxious propoganda that caricatures a viewpoint into obscurity? I'm very progressive but I'm equally capable of recognizing that just because someone disagrees with me doesn't mean they are heartless and anti-human. Besides, these aren't even true in all instances: Civil Rights Act 1964, Voting Rights Act 1965, Philadelphia Plan were all supported by more REPUBLICANS than Democrats... Should we really anticipate ANY long-term shifts in opinion with this?
micahstork 1 year ago
I'm not conservative, and yet even I can recognize the stupidity of this video.
Conservatives are against the State managing health care, thus conservatives are against all people having health care? Ah, the stupidity hurts my brain!
rockandrock44 1 year ago
Progressives/libs do NOT love their country only what they think they could do with it if they could take it over.
davetileguy 1 year ago
I can't for the life of me understand why soc,lib,progressives need to shove everything they want down America's throat,Fuck off and leave those of us alone who are doing just fine,the wealth they want to steal was generated by our system of entupanurship that they love to bash,greed is not nessesarily bad,the war on poverty has been genocide for blacks.WHERE IS JOHN GALT! four legs good two legs baaaad
davetileguy 1 year ago
Last time I checked all of those things could also be done by people taking a stand on their own. Companies can't survive without customers and will undoubtedly change if enough people boycott them. And also the rich got rich by working hard or taking risks to better themselves. If you did that would you appreciate the slacker who wont work taking half of your paycheck?
jcmurray88 1 year ago
@jcmurray88 I hear ya, but I don't see the majority of people as 'responsible, well-educated/informed passionate folks'. Maybe the younger are mor e informed, I hope so..Look at recent history in the U.S. How effective were'the people'? The fact is, there's a whole lot of citizens that make bad choices because it's 'easy' and frankly don't deserve to drag the nation down with their apathy.
MindfulFuture 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
You are progressing towards hell, stop
promoting abortion. Repent and progress
towards heaven.
2000yrCatholic 2 years ago
You are progressing towards hell, stop
promoting abortion. Repent and progress
towards heaven.
2000yrCatholic 2 years ago
this is ridiculous. social security sucks.
RoyalDemonforChrist 2 years ago
Woo hoo, lets get those rich bastards and show em that they should take care of us! Class warfare you are such a pathetic loser...-5 stars.
jimbeauxtexas 2 years ago
one of these days all of you socialist assholes will have to realize that you cannot tax us into prosperity. a free market and the entrepreneurial spirit where your creativity sets the limits and where your own capital at stake are the only way to truly thrive. that is when human potential will truly be unlocked.
46killbot2 2 years ago
A nice sentiment, but most people aren't born with enough capital that they can risk it, therefore only those who start with capital can reach their true potential.
docdrac 2 years ago
When Palin becomes POTUS in 2012, she will put an end to liberalism and progressivism once and for all! America has been and always forever will be an extreme conservative country!
ecwaufisxtreme 3 years ago
What a stupid over-exaggeration of conservative ideals. CAP can do way better than this...
Jlird808 3 years ago
John McCain '08!
CaliBeach0007 3 years ago
If you want to know what you can do....
view Kingery4President video "The War Over Our Rights"
Kingery4President 3 years ago
Finally, an explanation that even a conservative could understand.
henryriekert 4 years ago
Anyone who takes there definition of conservatism as true clearly has not taken any political science class, let alone history.
LemonLifepro 3 years ago
I did study American history and political science as an undergraduate. And you misused "there." It should be "their," as in their definition of conservatism.
henryriekert 3 years ago
How many of your conservative buddies have succeeded?Pinochet?Batista?Reagan?King George?-All failures. BTW-Hitler was a fascist and fascism falls on the right of the political sprectrum, not the left. Ike was hardly a conservative. He was a progressive Republican in many ways. He supported unions, New Deal institutions, rights of workers, he didn't trust warmongers, supported the 90% tax bracket on the rich,etc. His VP, Nixon would be considered a liberal now by cons for his domestic policy.
musicmars 4 years ago
lol, what about the dictators from the socialist left?
myheartskry 4 years ago
What about them? Don't you understand the difference between the libertarian-left and the authoritarian-left?
Maybe you should go to the library and take out some books about politcal science.
At least visit politicalcompass DOT org
hannicullen 4 years ago
Apparently you didn't read what my comment was replied to. My comment was replied to someone who was writing about dictators from the right and was assuming that dictators only came from the right. So your comment was both unnessesary and ignorant.
myheartskry 4 years ago
If your comment was a reply to someone's, you should make it appear as a reply by having it nested under the original comment, like this one. hannicullen's comment was both relevant and well intended.
bowmasters 3 years ago
and now i see that youtube sometimes messes up when it comes to nesting comments in the right place. touché
bowmasters 3 years ago
Yeah, the comment issue has been a problem or quite a while now.
myheartskry 3 years ago
I've never seen that website. Great link... thanks. It really helped me understand "left" and "right".
I've always known not all "leftists" and not all "rightists" behave the same.
This website really cleared it up for me.
I found myself near the center, leaning to the left, but not leftist as "imposing force" leftists, but more on the side of voluntary collectivism.
I'm guessing 1% of those who read your post will check out the link.
Again, kudos, hannicullen.
lafemmefatalle 3 years ago
This video hit it right on the bullseye of what PROgressives are all about and what they've achieved in history. KKKonservatives are always the ones pushing us back into the dark ages... in the land where women can't vote, where blacks should be picking cotton, where idiots think being gay is a choice and the land where only white kristian men become president.
probablecausze 4 years ago
Pray do tell how this is targeted at ignorant people. How is the progressive telling lies? You must have been reading an American History book.....
Eskarlette 4 years ago
Hey, one can go back since the beginning of time and conservatives have always ended up, eventually, being on the wrong side of every issue. From slavery, to civil rights, to women's rights, to no child labor, to 40 hour work week, to roads for the country, to utilities for the country, to safe water and food, to... You get the idea. My liberal today is your conservative in 30 years.
duanebidoux 4 years ago
You hit the nail on the head with this post. "My liberal today is your conservative in 30 years", I love that quote I'm gonna steal it.
probablecausze 4 years ago
And for the record, I care about people. I volunteer for the American Cancer Society, and I donate my money to several charitable foundations. But it's just not the gov's business to tell me to be charitable. Find THAT in the Constitution. (Since when was expressing an individ opinion propaganda?)
alillian 4 years ago
YOU live in AMERICA. We're all in this together, if you don't like it and want to have a "leave me alone every man for himself" attitdue then get OUT and go live on an isolated island.
probablecausze 4 years ago
I'm not a conservative, I wouldn't know. I don't make tons of $, but a chunk of it goes to Soc Sec with each paycheck. Our gov doesn't invest it and borrows against it, so I say adieu to every dollar. Soc Sec isn't a bad idea, but it shouldn't be mandatory. The last time I checked, forced support of others was called Socialism. I'd rather have the chance to invest that money on my own. Not b/c I want to be better than others, but b/c I think I can do a better job managing my own assets.
alillian 4 years ago
You guys really need to get over this fear of socialism that the reich has instilled into the American consciousness. When you brand even a moderate government program like Soc Sec as socialism, it says something. I don't fear capitalism for I know that the best system is some mix of the two - a balance. You are no different from the Trotsky followers I used to discuss politics with, who feared and hated captilism so much. The other side really isn't so big, bad and scary.
musicmars 4 years ago 2
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Since when was Social Security something to be proud of?
alillian 4 years ago
Since my grandfather lived on it for 30 years, and my father is now enjoying a comfortable retirement with it.
Of course, if you think one can only be proud of something if it is much, much better than what other people have (conservative definition of "good"), then I guess it doesn't meet your wants.
Tom0063 4 years ago 6
yeah your right, who cares about people
nuemafouro 4 years ago 3
Never ceases to amaze me on how many morons on
these political videos keep putting their foot
in their mouth with stupid statements like
that.Are you on a flame streek or something.
(rhetorical question...or I mean I couldn't
care less what the answer is).
produde2008 4 years ago
I have nothing against the term "progressive", but I still preferred the term "Liberal". The fascist "conservative" party in America has spent the last 20 years trying to turn the word Liberal into a dirty word.
It is LONG PAST time we returned the favor and started exposing "conservatism" for what it is. Stark greed and authoritarianism trying to secure wealth and rule by their own "elite" few.
There is nothing more ANTI-American than the alleged "conservative party" in America.
smgumby 4 years ago 10
People should spell it "Konservative" from now on. Great post, what in the world is Konservative about a an $8.9 TRILLION defecit? Over 70% of that not even being spent on our own country.
Personally I like the word Progressive rather than Liberal because Liberal only encompases "freedoms", and while I LOVE freedom, I also love technological, economical and social progress. So I think the term "Progressive" balls all those great things into one making it a better word.
probablecausze 4 years ago
@smgumby I couldn't agree more
oneputtsteven 11 months ago
face the facts you republiicans. your furor favors corporate rights and progress over the middle class. distroying the quality of life that made this nation great is the neo-con agenda. get a brain and help expose them.
homerstube2 4 years ago
"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than those attending too small a degree of it."
Thomas Jefferson
olmosm1 4 years ago 5
what r they talking about bush just passed a bill to help make sure water is clean. And republicans are for many things like protecting marriage. not killing babies keeping the second amendment in tact
DeutschViking 4 years ago
republican doesn't mean conservative. lol.
foxor101 4 years ago
they just correlate?
ProserpinaFC 4 years ago
If you want to protect marriage you make divorce illegal, not forbid people in love to get married you stupid fuck.
And if you don't want to look like an idiot you should take an English class and pay attention. Nice grammar and spelling. It really makes it easy to take your opinion seriously.
halenfan83 4 years ago
Protecting marriage from what?? More like HATE against gays who don't choose to be that way. Killing babies? Who says life starts the second the sperm hits the egg? More like hate against rape victims and a woman's choice. Sure a woman should not wait too long to decide, I'm against late term abortions, but there should still be a choice in the begining. SEX EDUCATION prevents abortions, maybe if you KONservatives weren't so ignorant you'd help save lives.
probablecausze 4 years ago
Well, except "social security" is blatantly unconstitutional. Don't ask so called "progressives" to read the constitution because it gets in their way. So called "progressives" overthrew the constitution and turned the federal "government" into our bloated 900 lb domineering mother. They destroyed states rights AND local control. So called "conservatives" actually DO love tax breaks for the rich nowadays though.
MACpistoldotcom 4 years ago
Yeah right, the last time a Democrat was in office the government was so bloated that we actually had a budget surplus and peace talks around the world.
Republicans are just as bloated, they're just hipocritical about it. In fact the whole american political machinery is bloated either way - so I rather our government do something for all of us with that bloat other than protect someone else's oil companies and private mercenary troups.
flydaedalus 4 years ago 9
@flydaedalus government is the problem... you try to make it do things for everone but it still serves itself and the special interests that donate campaign money
richmocha 8 months ago
It's Progressives(not Konservatives) and DEISTS(not Kristians) like Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson who made the Constitution in the first place you dumb fuck.
probablecausze 4 years ago
This ad is very factual. Conservatives have fought against social change and progress ever since they tried to justify slavery. Most conservatives left the Democratic party when FDR established the New Deal. The remaining conservatives left when LBJ passed civil rights legislation. Being anti-abortion is now their only cause.
outlaw0550 4 years ago 5
lol I don't really care about this because I'm from England, but WTF!
That is such bullshit propaganda, I would actually rally against that party for being such smug cunts....
only1duk 4 years ago
Well, English Boy, American Conservs REALLY do argue agaisnt those things.
In the 1920s they argued against making monopolies illegal.
In the 1960s they argued against our nation's most famous Civil Rights bills.
And now they are for this war and against progressive pleas for universal health care.
(Mind you, I can only speak about the ADMINISRATIONS, not individuals.)
Frankly, I don't know how anyone can call themselves an AmerConser with a straight face
O_o
ProserpinaFC 4 years ago 3
I'm an American Conservative.
lanz0r4tehwin 4 years ago
I can't see your face! XD
So then, what are you conserving?
ProserpinaFC 4 years ago
America
lanz0r4tehwin 4 years ago
That's a sucky response. :S
Come on, I'm that rarity that gives a crap what you say.
What are you conserving?
ProserpinaFC 4 years ago
All American values
lanz0r4tehwin 4 years ago
And what would those values be? lol
We have stripped away slavery, sharecropping, immigration quotas, predatory business, limited voting and Jim Crow. All of those were, at a time, American values. "The right to own property, keeping voting safe, maintaining tradition."
What is it that you want to conserve so badly? And looking back at our brief history as a nation, what were they trying to conserve?
ProserpinaFC 4 years ago
The values we share as Americans
lanz0r4tehwin 4 years ago
*Watches Bleach*
>_>
ProserpinaFC 4 years ago
Shows how much you know you dumb English kunt. Konservatives really are against these things and this is only the tip of the iceburg, they left so much out. This video was actually being "nice" to you Konservative cunts.
probablecausze 4 years ago
good luck then you krazy yank
I hope your country goes to the dogs like mine
only1duk 4 years ago
Our country has gone to the dogs do to people like you. If it was up to you Konservatives, blacks would still be picking cotton, women would be stripped from all rights and gays would be hanged for the crime of being who they are. I bet that sounds like music to your ears pig.
probablecausze 4 years ago
due.
conservatives.
you are a lazy illiterate cunt who wants slaves to wipe our arse because you are so bone fucking idle...
that's why your fucking country is going down
only1duk 4 years ago
LAZY?? Go back to your golf course pork face. And in this country it's spelled Konservative with a K because you people are a bunch of hate-filled, ignorant, polluting slime ball scum.
probablecausze 4 years ago 2
haha pork face?
We have to work hard over here you mug.
VIVA LA FREEDOM
YOU AMERICAN DRONE
only1duk 4 years ago
Oh yea you Konservatives work so hard you spend your days telling others what yo do then you come home and your hispanic immigrant maid wipes your ass for you. How did you make most of your money? Dady's trust fund? Shut the fuck up you English twit.
probablecausze 4 years ago
I'm not a fucking conservative you mug. I'm Labour.
only1duk 4 years ago
Why are you here hating on Progressives then you moron?? Being a Progressive has very similar values to that of Labour Party consisting mostly of social Democrats.
probablecausze 4 years ago
Because of the stupid advert, that would get laughed at in my country, you fucking melon
hahahaha
only1duk 4 years ago
Who the fuck cares? Just about everything in your country is laughed at by us. Go back to the English channel you came from.
probablecausze 4 years ago
Pwned
commodore2468 4 years ago
Instead of bashing the opponent, how about telling us what you can do for America?
changeovercom 4 years ago
To be fair, this add doesn't mention the security issues. But that would probably take up the whole thirty seconds to even begin to do justice to both sides.
joepanzica 4 years ago
Keep up the bullshit, anything to keep the bipartisan propaganda steamrolling passed honesty and openess
joelmac1983 4 years ago
No to the worn-out Mac-PC takeoff.
Yes to the first, withi check-marks.
BEST: the second ad, with music. People respond to the combo of music and message.
As for those with "anti-abortion " rhetoric -- it is worse to have unwanted children who grow up abused in various ways, including neglect.
IRONIC: Many "conservatives" who oppose "killing the unborn" have no problem at all with patriotically sending our youth to a misguided cesspool like Iraq to be killed or maimed for life!
AnncyHoppy 4 years ago 3
I'm against moralizing the use of force through government. Progressive ideology advocates against property, and human rights. People are only usefull to progress the goals of the state. No one has any choice over their life, liberty, and property when it violates the states interests, or ... "The social good". "progressive" enslavement has been bought by the socialism and communism of Hitler, Mao, Lenin, and Stalin also. I will choose individualism instead.
aaron0883 4 years ago
Well said.
Unfortunatly, pepole are gladly giving up their (and others) liberty for social rights sponsored by gov from somebodys elses money.
daPawlak 4 years ago
great job. But people take this too seriously. I'm a conservative and I think it funny. but right about most of it though.
astralsolider 4 years ago 2
Pretty funny. Though I think that the comments for this video are funnier. I love how angry people get over stuff like this. 5/5 and fav'd.
ieatpurpleclouds 4 years ago 3
Outstanding! Nice work :)
captainjerk 4 years ago 3
This comment has received too many negative votes show
they are also for
marxism
illegal immigration
and pediphiles
Tallacus 4 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
The funny thing is if you look at the numbers the majority of the wealthy are Liberals...figure that one! Look at Forbes list...Liberal after Liberal after Liberal
I would like to see "Progerssives" fight for the rights of the most innocent humans...the unborn
Social Securiy is a system that will go bankrupt by 2046...by 2010 there will be more people withdrawing that those putting in
So what this ad sayss is put your faith in Big Goverment.....no thanks I can look out for myself
projecttube80 4 years ago
You can take care of yourself? You wouldn't need a trial lawyer if wrongly accused you of a crime? I guess that you will test all of your food, air, water since you don't want government concerned with clean air, water, food, etc standards. What you are is a Social Darwinist, with no care about those who may not be able to fend for themselves in the economic jungle.
The people on the Forbes list are hardly progressives, they are corporatists who are inherantly economically conservative.
musicmars 4 years ago 8
lol, hiding comments you don't like, how progressive of you guys.
daPawlak 4 years ago
hey this is a great idea. i know.... how about half of the libs in the country pretend to be conservatives and then you guys can argue with yourselves. hey you might even win the argument like half the time instead of like ...never. by the way i am against clean air and water. i also hate feeding poor children and old people. ridiculous! oooh ohhh i heard a rumor that liberals hate breathing.... yeah.. so... take that!
bretlynn 4 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
This is hilarious. Is anyone gonna fall for this? There's not much progressive about "progressives," it's all regressive -- back to Marx and FDR.
And if you think healthcare is expensive now, just wait until it's "free."
MatthewPA1972 4 years ago
Hilarious, you think that child labor laws, safe food, air and water standards, etc are hilarious? You must be the kind of guy that laughs at auto accidents. Regressive is Bush/Rove and company who want to take us back to the guilded age of the 19th century by eliminating the progress that the Democratic Party and unions fought so hard for in the 20th century.
musicmars 4 years ago 3
Yeah, that horrible tirant, FDR. How dare he be popular enough to get elected four times.
Someone mentioned earlier about the "tired worn-out Mac vs PC ad takeoff". You wanna know what's tired and worn out? -The tired worn out conservative diatribe characterizing as "Marxist" or "socialist" any type of government spending that doesn't involve blowing things up.
perrosuelto200111 4 years ago 6
This comment has received too many negative votes show
big social security is socialitic (or social-democratic, in economical sens it's the same), so get over it goddamn lefty.
daPawlak 4 years ago
Hahahahaha!! I despise those Mac vs Pc Commercials, but that's just TFF. And so true at that.
0Melissas0Man0 4 years ago
About as true as Dan Rather's and Mary Mapes' forged documents.
MatthewPA1972 4 years ago
Yea, the ones that Karl Rove leaked to set him up. So you're saying that you don't believe that GW was AWOL for a year as Rather was asserting?
musicmars 4 years ago
that conservative guy is soo funny- big nerd!!
hogwartsdetention 4 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Progressives are dumb. they wantto kill people. lol. PROGRESSIVE PEOPLE KILL BABIES ITS TRUE. lol. I just know im gonna get like 80 thumbs down for saying that but its my beleif. Im a conservative and proud of it!
mrhippothethird 4 years ago
Only an indoctrinated neo-con could bracket a sentence about killing babies with lol. Thanks for sharing your heartless nature and extreme ignorance with the world at large, Mr. Hippo. And for aligning your idiocy with the Conservatives. I'm sure they're glad to have you.
CowboyGP 4 years ago 4
We need to expose the con in conservitave, but I think you just did... By "Lolling" at your own insult. As if you were serious at first then you go around and laugh at the subject. What an asswipe.
Isaac707 4 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
They do kill babies -- abortion. They'll suck the brains out of an unborn's head until the skull collapses and think, "A constitutional right has just been exercised."
MatthewPA1972 4 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
damn right. I hate progressives
mrhippothethird 4 years ago
and conservatives will let more and more orphans pile into orphanages were most of them will end up killing someone or adding to the drug problems in the country.
and without legal abortions, people are just going to go backdoor.
if u outlaw abortions its not going to stop being from having them. they're just going to try riskier ways of it
AZNman1111 4 years ago
LOL Are you guys still trying to use this attempt at an argument?
Try focusing some of your killing impulse toward those who've committed murder and let the innocents have a chance.
MatthewPA1972 4 years ago
maxmydog25 is right. most Canadians are happy with our health care system. Can Americans say the same thing?
copcorona 4 years ago 3
no, no we can't.
Isaac707 4 years ago
I'm a progressive, but the one thing I won't budge on is universal health care.
Why?
The next time I'm shovelled through an appointment (by closing time, thank goodness) with the wrong prescription, an incomplete diagnosis, and a complete disregard for patient/doctor interaction (didn't even tell me her name!), I'll be sure to tell you.
LauraJean3 4 years ago
LauraJean~ From your post I have no idea which side you're on. Every aspect of the appointment scenario you describe is based on the profit-oriented structure of our current healthcare system. Which seems like an endorsement of universal healthcare, until one looks back to the first sentence of your post.
From reading your comments, I can't help but wonder if the "but" should be an "and".
CowboyGP 4 years ago
XD
I could care less about the political trouble this causes, people are crazy, but it's a brilliant movie! Good job!
LoserSalute 4 years ago
HAHA answer this guys question
sadisticdelusionYOU 4 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
no one answered my question, who are these faggots?
snatchface8 4 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
what is this, sesame street politics? come on.
Reworking the KISS principle to Keep it Simple For the Stupid!
kalaway 4 years ago
this is absolutely amazing. so incredible. those against it obviously don't care about anyone but themselves.
amitsonsalazar 4 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Are you serious? Do you think for one moment that anyone is buying this thinly-veiled BS? You can run from the label LIBERAL but we all know you can't shed it because you've earned it a thousand times over. And I hope APPLE sues you for ripping off their creative.
rbolson61 4 years ago
There's nothing wrong with being liberal. Without liberalism the Renaissance, Industrial Revolution, anything that ends with revolution or evolution or upgrade would never have happened. Change is a part of life, and progressive and liberal are synonyms.
And ironically, Apple is liberal/progressive.
igashgoah 4 years ago 3
Exactly. I conservatives are in denial of pretty much any and all change. Even when scientific evidence is given to them, they ignore it because it doesn't support their "beliefs." Extreme conservatives would like for rich white guys to rule the planet and for the rest of us to live in tiny huts. Change is the way of nature. You can't fight it.
wtflolroflomg 4 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Agreed -- liberal, not progressive.
And the health care concept is the worst idea EVER.
Monjambon 4 years ago
Universal health care works in EVERY other industrialized nation.
musicmars 4 years ago
this is some shit
bubbleinatube 4 years ago
Bravo!
garicmidknight 4 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Social Security had an IOU in it the moment it was created. Nice job Progressives. And for the last time, NATIONAL HEALTHCARE WON'T WORK. Ask Cananda.
brbruner 4 years ago
Oh Cananda!
...simply brilliant.
bretmosley 4 years ago
It was an ackskident.
brbruner 4 years ago
LOL. Gimme a break folks, who doesn't make a typo here and there? It's one extra letter! Its not like he wrote "Tasmania" when he meant to write "Canada". Sheesh. --no offense meant to brbruner if brbruner is not a male person --. Petty crap like focusing on a typo only weakens your arguement. FYI.
CowboyGP 4 years ago
First of all - it's called Canada not Cananda. Second of all - People in Canada are happy with their healthcare. Third - It was the Republicans who insisted on Social Security having not being a fully funded lockbox. So good work Repugs.
musicmars 4 years ago 3
First. I can't have one typing err. Tough crowd. As far as SS. Every party has raped it from its creation starting with your beloved FDR. So for the Progressive party to state that its responsible for creating SS is sad thats all you have to show. Also, Canadians are not happy. If you have a cold its great. If you need major surgery, you are screwed.
brbruner 4 years ago
I would ask, but "Cananda" doesn't exist...
SS helped us out of the depression. The idea is that every generation pays for the one before it, in hopes that the next will pay for them. It's a chain of helping.
wtflolroflomg 4 years ago
Ya ask an Canadian and you will find that most Canadians are sadafied with there health care and would never trade there health care for ours.
maxmydog25 4 years ago
brbruner: Conservatives like to maintain the status quo. Hence the name. Progressives want democratic Progress - ie: All Americans having equal rights, equal opportunities, etc. - again... hence the name. The former have always been led by rich, powerful men who are jealously protecting their money and influence. The former have always followed democratic ideals. Bill of Rights, Constitution, etc. We are the wealthiest nation on the planet. Universal healthcare is VERY do-able.
CowboyGP 4 years ago 3
Right on!
funkspiel 4 years ago
This is the BEST and I hope it's selected. Why? It will grab everyone's attention - isn't that step 1? I did love the other ones, but people respond very well to satire.
B3ANK1TTY 4 years ago
wow. this was really freaking retarted. not an bit of truth in it at all. i'm sure that the con guy was a real life actual conservative. i mean where could they possibly find a liberal to portray a conservative and make them seem like complete idiots it's not like they work or anything.
bretlynn 4 years ago
Obviously you don't know what either of the words actually mean or you wouldn't be saying that. While you look them up, try this one: ignorant.
igashgoah 4 years ago
Yeah... and the PC guy in the Mac commercials is an actual PC, right? Thanks for sharing. The brain-power of the modern conservative movement is astonishing..... Rush? Is that you?
CowboyGP 4 years ago
This one is not so well acted and kind of anti-climactic. The other PC-Mac-style commercial is better.
Reesespieces86 4 years ago
come on guys! it's clever!-ish
TheThinWoman 4 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
stupid fucking movie. progressives can shove their shit back up their dilated assholes
bowlingbinder43 4 years ago
Wow. So much anger.
xgreenxcloverx 4 years ago 2
Don't hold back, Tell us how you really feel ;-)
Mortagern 4 years ago
A little cliche, but its still pretty good.
vforvoltaire 4 years ago
I found your 4 videos on thinkprogress. I like this one by far the least. Not just is the Apple/Windows format tired & old, but the ad itself is crude and just unsympathetic. It's like an attack ad, and is more likely to turn people off than convince anyone - hell, I'm a progressive and was turned off by it.
habeebee 4 years ago
Agree with this comment. The PC/Mac parody was only funny the first time it was on utube - last year. Bad writing, a bad message, a bad concept and bad editing. I vote skip these two and hone-in on the other ones.
chasm3 4 years ago 3
I tend to agree with habeebee in essence. I truly liked all 4 ads, but the Mac/PC ads were I liked from a "chuckle factor" standpoint. The first ad, (the one with the checkmarks) seemed the most message-oriented and straightforward. For that, it gets my vote. However, I would like to see all 4 of them on TV. The neo-cons have done a tremendous job is vilifying the words Progressive and Liberal. In fact, most people don't even know what these words actually mean in a political sense anymore.
CowboyGP 4 years ago 2
Er.. Social Security is a 'bad' thing, why was that on the list?
Sweetkittenpie 4 years ago
social security was a good thing, read a history book
yotoyouyo 4 years ago
And today Social Security is a broke thing, and essentially another form of tax considering the funds put into it don't have to be spent on it.
RyotatheWildFox 4 years ago
Yeah. There was recently an effort to put a lockbox on it, but that was voted down by the conservatives (yes, by Ron Paul too).
TheGiantRobot 4 years ago
The key word is 'was', the system is broken now.
Sweetkittenpie 4 years ago
Sweetkittenpie: You may have answered your own question. You asked why SS was on the list, then relented that it "was" a good thing, but is broken now IYO. The ad is about how Progressives made things happen, against the status quo policies of Conservatives. Whether you're prepared to admit it or not, most of the Human Rights initiatives in American History have been passed by Progressives at the vehement opposition of Conservatives. And so it continues today.
CowboyGP 4 years ago
"In the absence of the gold standard, there is no way to protect savings from confiscation through inflation. The financial policy of the welfare state requires that there be no way for the owners of wealth to protect themselves. This is the shabby secret of the welfare statists' tirades against gold. Deficit spending is simply a scheme for the confiscation of wealth." Alan Greenspan, Federal Reserve chairman.
Cyrus255 4 years ago
lol, nice
shows the random heartlessness of conservative thought
henrythesteinberg 4 years ago
This video is nothing more than a straw man argument. I don't align myself with the conservatives one bit, but I hate how this kind of polarizing stuff is shaping the 'debate' in America.
Let's just make fun of everybody who disagrees with us, that proves we are right!
olympus7000 4 years ago 3
i'll second that.
YourSuperiorSays 4 years ago
Have you objected to Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly or FOX News in the last fifteen years because you "hate how this kind of polarizing stuff is shaping the 'debate' in America"? Didn't think so.
joestrummer2000 4 years ago 2
Have you protested Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly, or FOX News in the last fifteen years because you "hate how this kind of polarizing stuff is shaping the 'debate' in America"? Didn't think so.
joestrummer2000 4 years ago
Don't know how you can say "didn't think so" without waiting for my response.
I think all of the things you mentioned (O'Reilly, Fox, Limbaugh) are garbage that polarize the country. My point is that this video is no better.
Just because I find fault with the methods of argumentation employed in this video does not mean I am an apologist for the conservatives.
Sheesh!
olympus7000 4 years ago 6
Just because you believe it's polarizing doesn't mean it isn't true. Explain the "straw man?" Conservatives (and their apologists) have f*cked us into a big bloody hole, yet you get smarmy becasue a Progressive intitution puts out a cute and, yes, harmless, little ad. There is no comparison and quit with the "two wrongs don't make a right" crap-ola. Take the blinders off pal!
onedaywellbedead 4 years ago 5
Fine I'll point a gun at you and take your money. There's welfare. I need your money. Gimme.
Besides, everyone knows the War on Poverty, War on Terror, War on Drugs, War on Global Warming, etc. are all a lie designed to get us to give up your liberty to a big police state.
Cyrus255 4 years ago
Cyrus: Spoken like a true neo-con. Out of curiosity; how do you feel about No-Bid Contracts and Governmental Favoritism being given to corporations for campaign contributions?
Makes you all warm and fuzzy just reading those words, huh?
CowboyGP 4 years ago
I agree about the polarization comment, but at the same time I'm glad to see some Progressives pointing out where most of the Human/Civil Rights we take for granted actually came from. As I stated elsewhere on this thread, the neo-cons have done a great job of burying the true political definition of Progressive with their rhetoric. This isn't my favorite ad by a long shot, but I do like it.
CowboyGP 4 years ago 2
This has been flagged as spam show
This ad needs to be spread through out the internet, with links and embedding on message boards and social pages. The internet allows messages like this to be seen.
rhino910 4 years ago 4
The only thing the Mac ads are good for is providing a template for this vid. ^5
ArmchairRevolution 4 years ago
Great vid!!! The democratic party needs all the help it can get nowadays cause its not doing much by itself.
blackacadian 4 years ago
because it's not progressive, can't much expect a strong message much less actual change when they lack the principles in the first place...
hyperauxia 4 years ago
I agree, the leadership isn't progressive, but there are a few very progressive people in the Democratic party. It's up to us to push those people to the forefront.
TheGiantRobot 4 years ago 2
Blame the minority party's blatant obstructionism; wait for '08 before jumping the boat.
ArmchairRevolution 4 years ago 3
AWESOME!
wompedy 4 years ago 2
ha ha.... love this ad
LORCA1970 4 years ago 2