And of course in 70-71 he was hit by Quarry, Bonavena and Frazier because he was completely rusty and he found out that he couldn't dance like before.
I disagree with this. Ali was one of the greatest technical boxers of all time. Look at his fights closely in the 60s and then in the 70s. He had to re-adapt in the 70s because he lost so much speed, because of this he got hit more often than in the 60s. He had to abandon his dancing style about 70% in the 70s, its very hard to switch your styles. Look at his fights, he was very elusive in the 60s and when he re-adapted around 72-75. Its only when he was older that he began to get hit hard.
@vladiator100 In his prime, he was unbeatable. In the 70's he was pathethic compared to what he used to be, in boxing terms. But he STILL beat everybody that was out there probably at 60% of what he could do. He only relied on his mind and chin, and the man beat Foreman, Frazier, Quarry, Lyle, Bonevena, Shavers and all the toughest man in the world. So great.
Michaelyouth: Exactly!!!! You got it right!!!! He utilized his skills to the best of his advantage, He improvised and adapted to different opponents style. Angelo Dundee called him a genius. Yes he was unorthodox. But at his peak-as you said it worked-and no one could touch him.It's a shame what happened to him. He liked being in the limelight and didn't want to quit.
Ali was also so good because he fought with natural abilities, not the orthodox boxing. For instance, he was se tall that his guard was a bit lower.. And so were his jabs.. Which are easier to be very fast if you punch down..
@tonyfressola From a so called ''technical'' point he did a lot of things wrong. But that is pretty much nonsense. Let's say you have a sprinter going 5 seconds faster with an onorthodox style, rather than the ''technical'' style, you would use the onorthodox style, because you are better in that way. He kept his hands too low, but you are right, that just helped him to move a lot better. I agree, he did nothing wrong, considering the type of rare skill he had.
Why do some cunts always have to bring up that lisping idiot Mike Tyson when watching a Muhammad Ali video? He wasn't in Ali's class, just fucking deal with it and get over it, you boring bunch of twats.
@brooklyn560, now that really would be a fabulous fight! More often than not, I'd back Ali to win going away. Louis was a monster going forward, but Ali was the back foot master. I'd pick Ali to win on points most of the time - but if Louis cornered Ali or got him on the ropes (Zaire aside, a place where Ali was never comfortable) he's one of only a couple of Heavyweights in history who could knock out / stop Ali, even at his best.
D'amato trained Tyson vs Prime Ali is a win for tyson, well how atleast I could see it. if that fight ever happened, I think Tyson's all out aggression edges Ali's defensive tactics. Ali even stated he would utilize the jab to distance himself and dance around, but Tyson would have known that. He would aggressively back Ali to a corner, clinch, then BAM bodyshot, BAM left hook, BAM right hook to the body. THAT + constant left right head movement.... too much for Ali... never would make 2nd round
@AjViShus Haha. You're talking about Ali, who had one of the hardest chins in the history of the heavyweight division. I'm sure if bums like Smith, Green and Tillis could last the distance with "Prime Tyson" Ali could also manage to get past the 2nd round!
speed kills as they say, and Tyson was a blurr compared to foreman and frazier. That's why i can't see Ali beating Tyson. Frazier at most gave 1-3 bodyshots every clinch, landing probably 1 clean shot. Different story when you have a powerful short armed opponent doing several combinations (i.e 1-2-4-3-8 d'amato screaming) and landing real hard powershots to the body. Tyson was the KING of close huggy combat, he made you cry mercy within a foot length. Ali loses by bodyshot 8th
@AjViShus Sorry don't buy it. Ali was never knocked out, and there were a lot of guys who Tyson didn't knock out, so how can you say Tyson would have knocked out a guy who's never been KO'd?
Easy, you study every boxers fight and predict. Remember Frazier vs Ali 1, that nasty left hook is what destroyed Ali's dreams of winning that match... and Tyson had stronger FASTER (i can't mention this nough) hooks. That match showed how a slow peak-a-boo style fighter could break down a dancy Ali. prime Tyson bobbing and weaving... jeezus... Ali wouldn't do SHIT. Everytime i see it in my mind, I see Ali's eyes in fear as he clinches a mad tyson banging him with bodyshots.
@AjViShus You obviously have such a high opinion of Tyson that nothing will sway you. I'm sure all the experts got it wrong when they put Ali, Louis, Johnson, Marciano, Lewis etc. above Tyson in the greatest ever rankings. Frankly if Buster Douglas could knock "Prime" Tyson on his ass I'm sure Ali wouldn't have any trouble doing it either.
@kashattack True. Ali had everything Tyson didn't have in big amounts. Chin, stamina, heart and better overall speed. Tyson would get frustrated while Ali would tire him and go for a KO much like he did against Foreman.
@AjViShus Ali fought Frazier past his prime which I count as after he won the title to before he was banned; Ali was faster around the ring and lighter on his toes. The whole reason that Frazier landed the shots he did was because Ali was almost static by comparison. Liston was the Tyson of his day and Ali whooped him, Floyd Patterson was trained by Cus D'amato and he got beat. Then watch Tyson vs Quick Tillis who mimicked Ali and although Tyson beat him Tillis frustrated him. Ali would have won
@AjViShus tyson cant do what Frazier did to Ali. it wasnt the left hook that Ali couldnt handle it was Fraziers legendary unbreakable heart, something tyson did not have. Frazier was willing o die to pull off the win when ever he stepped into the ring. tyson could be winning he fight and still be panicing it his corner because his opponent keeps getting up
Frazier didn't hit as hard as Tyson, although he threw some viscious body punches. Most likely the best body puncher of the heavyweight division. But Tyson most definetely had the harder punch of the two. As much as I love Joe, Tysons combo of power and speed is almost unbelieveable.
One thing that feel makes Ali truimph Tyson is Ali had way more heart. Ali has never lost by knockout except for his last 2 fights where he was over worn and they were TKOs. Tyson had at least 3 knockouts I think or TKOs.
Bare in mind Ali's best fights were when he was past his prime, while Tyson couldn't beat Holyfield once.
@veganboxer yeah but he didn't have to chase someone as fast as Ali. James Tillis, Mitch Green, James Smith and Tony Tucker were not in the same class as Ali.
@702priodigy I don't believe he had the stamina to go 15 rounds with a '66 Ali. I feel that people overrate Tyson because of his punching power. Thats why I get really irritated when people say Tyson would destroy Joe Frazier. Joe Fraziers best night was when he beat Ali. If you took that Joe Frazier and put him against a 1988 Tyson it would be a great fight. But back to the topic. I believe that Ali was too big, too fast and too smart for Tyson to beat him
mike tyson was amazing in his prime, he was only achieved 50% of what he couldve acheived i think.. what messed mike up was his lifestyle outside the ring, and his wife the bitch robyn and also the rape, and losing his trainer.. among many thing outside the ring ... he didnt have cus knew mike and knew how his mind always wonders,, and cus was the only one that turned his mind into a world champ, after he died, he had noone, but a bunch cunts that ruined him.
ha ha ha,yer nuts,the film ALWAYS CAPTURED that silly shuffle.i can see youre a unshakeable fan of Ali,thats kool.Ali was human,was a great heavy,and it appears he was seriously injured in boxing .i understand this to,he was offered very large purses.Ali will always be a favorite of many many fans
@dempsey981 Well, when he was in an interview with Frazier, it didn't capture it, and when he was talking to Chuvalo he did it in a documentary again. For comparison's sake, Floyd Patterson and Sugar ray Robinson looked nearly identical when throwing combos in ' the fastest boxers of all time' despite the weight difference. Flyweights should be the fastest boxers, but I don't see that.
@carmodifire how do you debate with a guy that insists that the guy he likes,his favorite fighter,is actually faster than a camera,film and shutter speed combined?ha ha you win,ali was faster than anybody,at any weight that ever ever was.i wonder how he got hit so much being that damn fast?
@dempsey981 I wasn't saying he was faster than the camera, just that it didn't ALWAYS capture all the moves. He didn't get hit much in 64-'67. (vs. Terrell, rd.9). But if you look at flyweights, see how fast their combos were, compared to a LHW, its not much different, there is no disparity.
@daredevilhaq but he wasnt very fast the night larry holmes beat the snot out of him mercilessly,even larry wanted it stopped.so i guess young ali was faster than S.M..SM was faster than speeding bullet,more power than a locomotive and able to jump tall buildings in a single bound.[thats pretty good right?].i will recommend ali load his gloves with krytonite against SM..
Ive always heard Ali had the fastest hands but I dont see it... is it because of his reach that made his hands appear slow? Tysons hands looked faster but maybe because his hands were shorter
@eatthisvr6 That's right, it was a powerful statement and it probably cost him a flawless record. Three years is a lifetime in the career of a boxer at the top of his game.
@bruceleefollower keep in mind that bruce admired ali and his movement. i doubt he couldve beaten ali in a pure boxing fight (8oz gloves). difference in weight is too big.
cassius clay was damn good but come on,,,511 joe frazier proved he wasnt the greatest,,,,frazier kicked his ass,,,,dempsy would have done same in his prime,,an dont give me that bullshit argument that clay was away from boxing for 3 yrs,,,bullshit,,vitaly klitscko was gone for four years and has come back and dominated everyonr,,,hell clay was 27 years old and in his prime age when in fought smoking joe
@nastylefthook1 i see what you mean. and i partly agree. but i wouldn't dare to call a 3 year layoff "nothing". and you shouldn't either, except you did it yourself. but if thats not the case you shouldn't judge...moreover ali is not klitschko. if klitschko could do it, well, then good for him...but apparently ali lost a great deal of his speed. that split second that decided whether he slipped the punch or got hit. he changed his whole style cause of that
@nastylefthook1 Why would you go and be like that calling Muhammad Ali, Cassius Clay. Don't be dick man, just call him by his name.. Frazier was good, no he was great , but a 3 year lay off is a LOT for a fighter like Ali. Ali's style was different than Klitscko, don't you know anything of boxing? It was crucial that Ali kept on fighting, because in his style fast reflexes was EVERYTHING; if you don't fight for that long, your reflexes go and you'll get hit.1967 Ali would jab Frazier senseless.
@michaelyouth A pre-exiled Ali would have used a prime Joe Frazier as a puppet and everyone who knows boxing knows this, including probably even Joe Frazier. Let's face it, Joe was lucky. He got in boxing at just the right time to skip over a prime Ali, win a tournament to capture his vacated title, and then fight an older, slower, out of shape, post-exile Ali. That's truly Frazier's one claim to fame. Well, Foreman put a stop to that quick and Ali beat Frazier's ass twice afterwards.
@LedWhisky69 ali wasnt even close to being out of shape when he fought frazier, though he was older, he did lose a lil bit of speed, ali fought frazier in his prime of his career, just not at his very best, which was before he was exiled
@bumbasi89 Yes he was out of shape. In fact, he had come in at 215, which was his heaviest weight up until that time and it showed. He looked soft and lacked his usual muscularity. Once the fight entered the middle rounds, Ali clearly ran out of steam, which was very unusual for him up until that time. Fact is, Ali let his ego get the better of him and he took training camp too lightly. He honestly believed that Frazier would be no match and, of course, that belief cost him the fight.
@bumbasi89 And, of course, the real proof of Ali's unpreparedness for the first Frazier fight came when they fought again in '74. You can clearly see that he in GREAT shape for that fight. Dancing, moving, and throwing punches from the opening bell to the closing bell. He took it very seriously and it showed. The contrast between those fights shows you plainly the differences between an in-shape, focused Ali and out-of-shape, unfocused Ali.
@LedWhisky69 good point, i feel as thought if shit didnt go down and he wasnt exiled, just imagine how different the outcome wouldve been when he fought foreman, frazier, etc.,
@bumbasi89 I know and it's ashame that we'll never get to know just how brilliant Ali's career might have been if he was never exiled. Can't take anything away from Frazier and Norton, but the man they fought was not the same man he was prior to his exile and I believe they knew this also.
Ali fought and beat every big name in his time. Was never KO'd. Tyson fcked up against Holyfield and Lewis, the two best fighters he had to fight. The klits have fought no reputable opposition. Any athlete would understand...just look at the shape and physique of heavyweight boxers today..it is a joke. Clearly you are a fat american who doesn't get out much.
Sugar Ray Robinson was the same way. He telegraphed punches all the time. He'd pull his hands way back before he hit, but did it so fast that early in his career, nobody could beat him to the punch.
Rules like that in boxing are made for guys that have to fight AGAINST fighters like Robinson and Ali... who fight so good that they don't need rules.
man every 1 thinks bruce lee is some sort of magic martial artist or something hes just some regular skinny chink with fast hands, good kicks , and a fighting mind
quit talkin' about bruce on an ali video and quit bashing bruce too. he maybe was a lightweight actor but was also the master of 4 world karate champions. they all say he was almost untouchable and he probably was pound for pound one of the strongest guy ever. he was no joke particularly in no rules fights. now in a boxing match he said himself ali would crush him.
@kaifuryo The only time him and ali ever came up was when Bruce was watching Ali train at a gym. a reporter asked Bruce "Could you beat him?" and bruce said "Look at his big fist and then look at my small chinese fist." That's it.
@adamzez yeah i said even bruce said that ali would beat him in boxing, but he also said he could have beat anybody in the world in no rules. what would ali do against a lightening kick in the balls?
@kaifuryo Bruce never said Ali could beat him in boxing. It's obvious that Ali could have, but he never said that. And Joe Lewis even handed Ali his own ass, of course Bruce could have. Probably even without kicking him in the balls or poking his eye out. Cheers mate.
@adamzez I understand you love Bruce Lee, but lets be realists. He would never beat Muhammad Ali in a boxing match even if they were in the same weight class. This is Muhammad Alis art. If you are saying Lee could beat Muhammad even with the weight difference, you are absolutely out of your mind.
@adamzez " And Joe Lewis even handed Ali his own ass, of course Bruce could have" sounds like you just did...........BTW its Joe Louis and he never "handed Ali his own ass."
@HiMyNameIsRoss I wasnt refering to a boxing match, which was what YOU were refering too. I was taking about outside the ring. Which Bruc eLee would have easily destroyed Ali. And no its Joe Lewis. Im not talking about Joe Louis the boxer. Joe LEWis trained with Bruce Lee and is a kick boxing champion. He did play around with Ali and was throwing him around easily. Nice try trying to sound like a know it all, though.
@adamzez haha we have a genius over here. OK buddy you do not have to try and take this personal. Listen, I am a skeptical person. I will believe it when i see proof of him throwing ali around.
@HiMyNameIsRoss That's fine man. Believe what you want. You can go look it up. Ali is a ring boxer, he is no martial artist. So, honestly, its not surprising. But you can go look it up for yourself. Then come back here and come up with reasons why you doubt it happened. And BTW i am no Ali hater. I acknowledge Ali's skills for boxing and in the ring when rules and limitations babysit him. But outside of a boxing match, ...nah
@HiMyNameIsRoss martial arts is used to exceed physically, mentally, andspiritually. Boxing does not practice anything spiritual. Which is why boxers tend to be hot-headed assholes that trash talk all day.. By the way im a boxer as well. Its not the only thing i practice thuogh. I'm just saying this to say im not ignorant.
Just google muhammid ali joe lewis. it will send you to joe louis stuff, so you have to watch to click on joe lewis stuff.
@HiMyNameIsRoss Do you understand that martial arts extend further than your Eastern Asian martial arts. Just because boxing is a "Western" sport does not make it any less of a martial art.
@carmodifire You're right. Robinson was a complete fighter but Ali was faster. Not p4p faster. Faster. This video isn't even Ali turning up the heat. His hand speed and reflexes were almost supernatural. If he had fought in a more traditional style and stepped into his punches like a big man instead of hitting them with his "near misses" when he had his opponents in trouble he might have killed people. Foreman said Ali was one of the few boxers to have compassion in his gloves.
@maripocita37 Actually, Ali did step into his punches a few times, but it was decent punching power, not 1 punch KO. That said, Ali was still improving incredibly,skillwise and physically. I think Ali in 1969/70 would beat any boxer at all, p4p or otherwise. Interesting,as Ali in his 'prime' had a higher KO ratio that Tyson in his prime taking into account quality of opposition. The reason was because Ali never tired, had the best counterpunching, and just kept at it, 100%.
@carmodifire We missed the very best Ali due to his 3 1/2 years of involuntary layoff. Ali had one of the best chins in history. The fastest heavy weight in history. Incredible work ethic. He wasn't technical like Louis, didn't have Ernie's punch or the best trainer but he was very smart and had "eyes" in the ring. He could adjust. He needed more traditional skills or to set down on his punches to deal with Norton. He could have done either and blasted him out. p4p Armstrong, srr or Ali
@wereareyoumarn Tyson was extremely technical. He had a genius behind him named Cus D'Amato who perfected a style which would beat a conventional boxer within the realm of boxing. It was based on Marciano and Dempsy's style. Fraizer emplyed that style to some extent. It was fully realized under Tyson. The concept of bobbing and weaving which negates the jab then unleashing a fury from all angles. I love Ali but prime Tyson MIGHT have beaten anyone. Don't think so but we will never know for sure
@toby099 Jim Jacobs recorded Ali's jab at 5.5 frames, Robinson's at 8.5. He said that Ali was the fastest fighter he saw on film. Ali threw punches at around 0.04 seconds in his pro fights (jabs and the Phantom Punch)
@dempsey981 The legendary film collector, Jim Jacobs. He said that Ali's jab was at 5.5 frames, Robinson's at 8.5. He also said that Ali was THE fastest fighter he saw, not just HW
@carmodifire the 'legendary jim jacobs" cute.a new york fight film collector,boxing enthusiast.mostly a business man,involved early on with mike tyson.great.hes a man with an opinion,if this was his opinion as you say.ITS WRONG.no way ali's hand speed trumps ray robinson a welter/middleweight,ESPECIALLY THE GREATEST POUND FOR POUND FIGHTER THAT EVER LIVED.Christ its the dumbest fuckin thing i ever fuckin heard,and i dont even care who supposedly said it.ive got two eyes,and seen the films
@dempsey981 Well, it was also in a documentary, called ' the 5 laws of Muhammad Ali'. Also, the notion that a welter is automatically faster doesn't mean anything. Just look at how fast they punched. Robinson's combos were 'faster' because they covered less distance (hooks) but Ali had faster handspeed. Ali sparred against some middleweight champ and the middleweight said he couldn't hit Ali cuz he was too fast. It's not hard to believe, you know.
@carmodifire Well i can see you're infatuated with Ali,thats understandable,many people are.pre 1970 Ali was fast indeed,and if u compare and old robinson with a young Ali,youre still wrong.Ali was not faster than leonard,duran,or hearns,or mayweather or pacquioa AND I COULD GO ON AND ON FOREVER with names of other middles and welters.come back down to earth on your speed opinions please so we can talk.keep in mind Ali flicked alot of shots,and many were arm punches.real punches have WEIGHT.
@dempsey981 I know what you're saying, and Ali didn't sit on his punches. But, consider Ali's Phantom Punch. Fake or not. That was thrown in 0.04 seconds. It wasn't a jab, and there was weight behind it (you might say there wasn't, but that's debatable). And it wasn't just handspeed; when Ali did the Shuffle, the cameras didn't always have enough frames to capture it. If you compare combination punching, Ali is faster than those others, but not when throwing hooks. It can and has been measured.
@DillonMcD367 I lost 15 IQ points from reading that. I can't understand a word you just said. But if you are implying that Mohammad Ali could knock out me at his age is impossible. He suffers from Parkinson
@ph1484 exactly the guy was an actor. boxers prove their credentials by fighting the best,not extras on a movie set. bruce lee wasnt shit, how can you say chuck norris was your toughest opponent? who is also a shitbag
@ph1484 exactly the guy was an actor. boxers prove their credentials by fighting the best,not extras on a movie set. bruce lee wasnt shit, how can you say chuck norris was your toughest opponent? who is also a shitbag
@destroyxeverything actually ali fought a few good guys and the rest are all puny now mike tyson fought mostly big guys and bruce lee actually fought alot before he became an actor he was in underground fights he grew up fighting its a daily basis as a child from picking fights in school to fighting gang members in his late teens
@AlmightyMewtwo other way about , ali fought all greats doesn't matter what size , best fighter ever SSR was not big , ali was not exactly that big but moved so fast and processed punches like a computer so most missed .. could go 15 rounds .. tyson was awesome but no ALI .. tyson fought bums and got beat by the few that were not hand picked and fed to him , no comparison to ali ! absolute none , not once did tyson wear his heart on his sleeve .. he fought big unfit bums most the time ..
No he didn't. Bruce lee was taught by a special ninjitsu martial artist (the last remaining one), Ali was taught a special way to punch by the same martial artist master, aka Anchor Punch
TEXTBOOK ANYTHING WERE WRITTEN by white dudes (not trying to be offensive) who loved to pontificate all the little details of everything...while it was the NEGRO or INJAN (indian) that defied all that logic. or it could be the Japanese or Chinese that created whatever.
there's a different between text and DOING...you can sure up technique by trail and error in 'DOING'...not sitting around running your mouth. it's always the scientist, that studys the wild, that get all the praise.
Also the only reason Frazier landed on him was because Ali started to lay on the ropes.
vladiator100 1 week ago
And of course in 70-71 he was hit by Quarry, Bonavena and Frazier because he was completely rusty and he found out that he couldn't dance like before.
vladiator100 1 week ago
I disagree with this. Ali was one of the greatest technical boxers of all time. Look at his fights closely in the 60s and then in the 70s. He had to re-adapt in the 70s because he lost so much speed, because of this he got hit more often than in the 60s. He had to abandon his dancing style about 70% in the 70s, its very hard to switch your styles. Look at his fights, he was very elusive in the 60s and when he re-adapted around 72-75. Its only when he was older that he began to get hit hard.
vladiator100 1 week ago
@vladiator100 In his prime, he was unbeatable. In the 70's he was pathethic compared to what he used to be, in boxing terms. But he STILL beat everybody that was out there probably at 60% of what he could do. He only relied on his mind and chin, and the man beat Foreman, Frazier, Quarry, Lyle, Bonevena, Shavers and all the toughest man in the world. So great.
michaelyouth 1 day ago
si le gana o goku hahaa
bunguzy1 1 week ago
there is no 12sec in this video
Proudsamoan01 2 weeks ago
It's alot like Lee Marvin in Cat Balou.
MrBeautifulba1 3 weeks ago
Michaelyouth: Exactly!!!! You got it right!!!! He utilized his skills to the best of his advantage, He improvised and adapted to different opponents style. Angelo Dundee called him a genius. Yes he was unorthodox. But at his peak-as you said it worked-and no one could touch him.It's a shame what happened to him. He liked being in the limelight and didn't want to quit.
tonyfressola 4 weeks ago
Ali was also so good because he fought with natural abilities, not the orthodox boxing. For instance, he was se tall that his guard was a bit lower.. And so were his jabs.. Which are easier to be very fast if you punch down..
Olivierheling 4 weeks ago
Masturbation with super speed
2009aytac 1 month ago
@2009aytac This is youtube, not redtube.
Krayzy8Mazza 4 weeks ago
Wrong, Ali did nothing wrong. He used his skills to his advantage. Everyone can't be trained the same way.
tonyfressola 1 month ago
@tonyfressola From a so called ''technical'' point he did a lot of things wrong. But that is pretty much nonsense. Let's say you have a sprinter going 5 seconds faster with an onorthodox style, rather than the ''technical'' style, you would use the onorthodox style, because you are better in that way. He kept his hands too low, but you are right, that just helped him to move a lot better. I agree, he did nothing wrong, considering the type of rare skill he had.
michaelyouth 4 weeks ago
he was arguably the most evasive HEAVYWEIGHT ever but definitely not overall
img6493 1 month ago
@img6493 Yeah, a heavyweight shouldn't be able to react this quickly, yet he did
dalhousie44 1 month ago
@dalhousie44 SPEED is different for weights, NOT reflexes. Ali just had a lot of both.
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inviziblehunter 1 month ago
The most evasive boxer in history
MrDoable 1 month ago
@MrDoable and what about willie pep? he was unhittable
Lollertron 1 month ago
@Lollertron His defense was skillful but he didn't have the attributes that ali has
MrDoable 1 month ago
@MrDoable you have to be kidding lol willie peps weight group punched alot faster than ali's heavy weight opponents
Lollertron 1 month ago
@Lollertron you should have willie pep tattooed on your willy
MrDoable 1 month ago
@MrDoable not enough room, already have mike tyson tattooed on it
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leejohn669 2 months ago
Why do some cunts always have to bring up that lisping idiot Mike Tyson when watching a Muhammad Ali video? He wasn't in Ali's class, just fucking deal with it and get over it, you boring bunch of twats.
RihannasBikeSeat 2 months ago
@RihannasBikeSeat the hw i'd love to see go prime vs prime with Ali is Joe Louis
brooklyn560 2 months ago
@brooklyn560, now that really would be a fabulous fight! More often than not, I'd back Ali to win going away. Louis was a monster going forward, but Ali was the back foot master. I'd pick Ali to win on points most of the time - but if Louis cornered Ali or got him on the ropes (Zaire aside, a place where Ali was never comfortable) he's one of only a couple of Heavyweights in history who could knock out / stop Ali, even at his best.
RihannasBikeSeat 2 months ago
D'amato trained Tyson vs Prime Ali is a win for tyson, well how atleast I could see it. if that fight ever happened, I think Tyson's all out aggression edges Ali's defensive tactics. Ali even stated he would utilize the jab to distance himself and dance around, but Tyson would have known that. He would aggressively back Ali to a corner, clinch, then BAM bodyshot, BAM left hook, BAM right hook to the body. THAT + constant left right head movement.... too much for Ali... never would make 2nd round
AjViShus 2 months ago
@AjViShus Haha. You're talking about Ali, who had one of the hardest chins in the history of the heavyweight division. I'm sure if bums like Smith, Green and Tillis could last the distance with "Prime Tyson" Ali could also manage to get past the 2nd round!
kashattack 2 months ago
@kashattack
that's why i said Tyson should go to the body. Being light on your feet won't help when you don't have the lungs to breathe and legs to carry you.
AjViShus 2 months ago
@AjViShus Foreman and Frazier both pounded Ali to the body. Ali beat both, and they both hit as hard as Tyson
kashattack 2 months ago
@kashattack
speed kills as they say, and Tyson was a blurr compared to foreman and frazier. That's why i can't see Ali beating Tyson. Frazier at most gave 1-3 bodyshots every clinch, landing probably 1 clean shot. Different story when you have a powerful short armed opponent doing several combinations (i.e 1-2-4-3-8 d'amato screaming) and landing real hard powershots to the body. Tyson was the KING of close huggy combat, he made you cry mercy within a foot length. Ali loses by bodyshot 8th
AjViShus 2 months ago
@AjViShus Sorry don't buy it. Ali was never knocked out, and there were a lot of guys who Tyson didn't knock out, so how can you say Tyson would have knocked out a guy who's never been KO'd?
kashattack 2 months ago
@kashattack
Easy, you study every boxers fight and predict. Remember Frazier vs Ali 1, that nasty left hook is what destroyed Ali's dreams of winning that match... and Tyson had stronger FASTER (i can't mention this nough) hooks. That match showed how a slow peak-a-boo style fighter could break down a dancy Ali. prime Tyson bobbing and weaving... jeezus... Ali wouldn't do SHIT. Everytime i see it in my mind, I see Ali's eyes in fear as he clinches a mad tyson banging him with bodyshots.
AjViShus 2 months ago
@AjViShus You obviously have such a high opinion of Tyson that nothing will sway you. I'm sure all the experts got it wrong when they put Ali, Louis, Johnson, Marciano, Lewis etc. above Tyson in the greatest ever rankings. Frankly if Buster Douglas could knock "Prime" Tyson on his ass I'm sure Ali wouldn't have any trouble doing it either.
kashattack 2 months ago
@kashattack True. Ali had everything Tyson didn't have in big amounts. Chin, stamina, heart and better overall speed. Tyson would get frustrated while Ali would tire him and go for a KO much like he did against Foreman.
NyyGyro 2 months ago
@AjViShus Ali fought Frazier past his prime which I count as after he won the title to before he was banned; Ali was faster around the ring and lighter on his toes. The whole reason that Frazier landed the shots he did was because Ali was almost static by comparison. Liston was the Tyson of his day and Ali whooped him, Floyd Patterson was trained by Cus D'amato and he got beat. Then watch Tyson vs Quick Tillis who mimicked Ali and although Tyson beat him Tillis frustrated him. Ali would have won
MultiWandering 2 months ago
@AjViShus what about Ali(IN HIS PRIME) vs...IT DONT FUCKIN MATTER, NO ONE COULD BEAT ALI IN HIS PRIME, enough said
ReBooooo 2 months ago
@AjViShus tyson cant do what Frazier did to Ali. it wasnt the left hook that Ali couldnt handle it was Fraziers legendary unbreakable heart, something tyson did not have. Frazier was willing o die to pull off the win when ever he stepped into the ring. tyson could be winning he fight and still be panicing it his corner because his opponent keeps getting up
brooklyn560 2 months ago
@kashattack
Frazier didn't hit as hard as Tyson, although he threw some viscious body punches. Most likely the best body puncher of the heavyweight division. But Tyson most definetely had the harder punch of the two. As much as I love Joe, Tysons combo of power and speed is almost unbelieveable.
MrRoyalFatness 2 months ago
One thing that feel makes Ali truimph Tyson is Ali had way more heart. Ali has never lost by knockout except for his last 2 fights where he was over worn and they were TKOs. Tyson had at least 3 knockouts I think or TKOs.
Bare in mind Ali's best fights were when he was past his prime, while Tyson couldn't beat Holyfield once.
fizman22 3 months ago
mike tyson and ali proobably would have to be a trillogy , i would defo say ali would come out on top.. 2-1 to ali..
quickmantan 3 months ago
@veganboxer yeah but he didn't have to chase someone as fast as Ali. James Tillis, Mitch Green, James Smith and Tony Tucker were not in the same class as Ali.
Dpal93 3 months ago
@702priodigy I don't believe he had the stamina to go 15 rounds with a '66 Ali. I feel that people overrate Tyson because of his punching power. Thats why I get really irritated when people say Tyson would destroy Joe Frazier. Joe Fraziers best night was when he beat Ali. If you took that Joe Frazier and put him against a 1988 Tyson it would be a great fight. But back to the topic. I believe that Ali was too big, too fast and too smart for Tyson to beat him
Dpal93 3 months ago
@Dpal93 I think you should look @ the 4 fights of mike tyson that went the distance before he got knocked out.
veganboxer 3 months ago
@veganboxer
mike tyson was amazing in his prime, he was only achieved 50% of what he couldve acheived i think.. what messed mike up was his lifestyle outside the ring, and his wife the bitch robyn and also the rape, and losing his trainer.. among many thing outside the ring ... he didnt have cus knew mike and knew how his mind always wonders,, and cus was the only one that turned his mind into a world champ, after he died, he had noone, but a bunch cunts that ruined him.
quickmantan 3 months ago
@spatch8806 You are absolutely insane. Tyson is not even close to Ali
Dpal93 3 months ago
@Dpal93
thats a tough argument, only because tyson was younger. but i think ali would beat tyson if they were to fight
702prodigy 3 months ago
He throws his punches like a whip.
cruelgrotequeblood 3 months ago
What documentary was this?
yeon723 3 months ago
tyson was better
spatch8806 3 months ago
@spatch8806 In what way?
obewild 3 months ago
@spatch8806 Why is Ali considered greater then?
TheMMAMetalhead 3 months ago
ha ha ha,yer nuts,the film ALWAYS CAPTURED that silly shuffle.i can see youre a unshakeable fan of Ali,thats kool.Ali was human,was a great heavy,and it appears he was seriously injured in boxing .i understand this to,he was offered very large purses.Ali will always be a favorite of many many fans
dempsey981 3 months ago
@dempsey981 Well, when he was in an interview with Frazier, it didn't capture it, and when he was talking to Chuvalo he did it in a documentary again. For comparison's sake, Floyd Patterson and Sugar ray Robinson looked nearly identical when throwing combos in ' the fastest boxers of all time' despite the weight difference. Flyweights should be the fastest boxers, but I don't see that.
carmodifire 3 months ago
@carmodifire how do you debate with a guy that insists that the guy he likes,his favorite fighter,is actually faster than a camera,film and shutter speed combined?ha ha you win,ali was faster than anybody,at any weight that ever ever was.i wonder how he got hit so much being that damn fast?
dempsey981 3 months ago
@dempsey981 I wasn't saying he was faster than the camera, just that it didn't ALWAYS capture all the moves. He didn't get hit much in 64-'67. (vs. Terrell, rd.9). But if you look at flyweights, see how fast their combos were, compared to a LHW, its not much different, there is no disparity.
carmodifire 3 months ago
@carmodifire ok,he was faster than flyweights too.i saw him on one film and i think he was as fast as Superman.
dempsey981 3 months ago
@dempsey981 bah, whatever. let's just say that Ali was the fastest HW ever and was great, as was SRR.
carmodifire 3 months ago
@carmodifire now i can go along with a conclusion like that...very reasonable opinion
dempsey981 3 months ago
@dempsey981 superman is slower thn ali u ass
daredevilhaq 3 months ago
@daredevilhaq ...ok,ive never seen superman in a 12 round scrap so i didnt know,im not surprised tho,he is a white guy.
dempsey981 3 months ago
@dempsey981 lools
daredevilhaq 3 months ago
@daredevilhaq but he wasnt very fast the night larry holmes beat the snot out of him mercilessly,even larry wanted it stopped.so i guess young ali was faster than S.M..SM was faster than speeding bullet,more power than a locomotive and able to jump tall buildings in a single bound.[thats pretty good right?].i will recommend ali load his gloves with krytonite against SM..
dempsey981 3 months ago
@dempsey981 but i would beat your ass i recommened you call the police or Muhammad ali or Larry Holmes because i would beat your ass
cell196 3 months ago
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dempsey981 3 months ago
@cell196 ah shucks thanks,it was nothin really.
dempsey981 3 months ago
@dempsey981 i was just playing you made me laugh hard as fuck lol
cell196 3 months ago
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@dempsey981 Why are white people like you so stupid?
92463mike 3 months ago
The Greatest.
punknpissed 4 months ago
he once threw a punch in 0.04 sec
diesel5830 4 months ago
Ive always heard Ali had the fastest hands but I dont see it... is it because of his reach that made his hands appear slow? Tysons hands looked faster but maybe because his hands were shorter
b7r7u7c7e 4 months ago
@b7r7u7c7e His hands were shorter.. There is no comparison. Tyson was fast. Ali is the fastest heavyweight of all times.
michaelyouth 4 months ago
I wonder what his record would have been like had he not lost three years of his career for refusing the draft...
squamish4244 4 months ago
@squamish4244 untouchable probably!
the key word in your comment is refused because regardless of your politics he didnt dodge anything he stood up and refused to do it that took balls
eatthisvr6 4 months ago
@eatthisvr6 That's right, it was a powerful statement and it probably cost him a flawless record. Three years is a lifetime in the career of a boxer at the top of his game.
squamish4244 4 months ago
They say, today Ali's hand speed is even faster ... :)
fenriz218 4 months ago
@fenriz218 yeah, when he fingers your mom ... :)
Breakinankles99 4 months ago
I never saw anyone hit Ali into 'La La land..where am I land" like Henry Cooper did in first fight..
scotters201 4 months ago
@scotters201
he still got his ass whooped
Ahmet1445 1 month ago
Joe Fraizer did beat a prime Ali dummy
After Joe whooped him Ali beat foreman sometime later
ferrarimike23 4 months ago
Tyson was the best ever !
fan421000 4 months ago
So this is where Dragon Ball Z fights got their inspiration from. Wow.
YRS317 4 months ago
Ali had sooooooo much more than handspeed and reflexes. He was a warrior in every sense of the word.
commonsensrules 4 months ago
@bruceleefollower keep in mind that bruce admired ali and his movement. i doubt he couldve beaten ali in a pure boxing fight (8oz gloves). difference in weight is too big.
h0olaman 4 months ago
cassius clay was damn good but come on,,,511 joe frazier proved he wasnt the greatest,,,,frazier kicked his ass,,,,dempsy would have done same in his prime,,an dont give me that bullshit argument that clay was away from boxing for 3 yrs,,,bullshit,,vitaly klitscko was gone for four years and has come back and dominated everyonr,,,hell clay was 27 years old and in his prime age when in fought smoking joe
nastylefthook1 4 months ago
@nastylefthook1 i see what you mean. and i partly agree. but i wouldn't dare to call a 3 year layoff "nothing". and you shouldn't either, except you did it yourself. but if thats not the case you shouldn't judge...moreover ali is not klitschko. if klitschko could do it, well, then good for him...but apparently ali lost a great deal of his speed. that split second that decided whether he slipped the punch or got hit. he changed his whole style cause of that
h0olaman 4 months ago
@nastylefthook1 Why would you go and be like that calling Muhammad Ali, Cassius Clay. Don't be dick man, just call him by his name.. Frazier was good, no he was great , but a 3 year lay off is a LOT for a fighter like Ali. Ali's style was different than Klitscko, don't you know anything of boxing? It was crucial that Ali kept on fighting, because in his style fast reflexes was EVERYTHING; if you don't fight for that long, your reflexes go and you'll get hit.1967 Ali would jab Frazier senseless.
michaelyouth 4 months ago
@michaelyouth A pre-exiled Ali would have used a prime Joe Frazier as a puppet and everyone who knows boxing knows this, including probably even Joe Frazier. Let's face it, Joe was lucky. He got in boxing at just the right time to skip over a prime Ali, win a tournament to capture his vacated title, and then fight an older, slower, out of shape, post-exile Ali. That's truly Frazier's one claim to fame. Well, Foreman put a stop to that quick and Ali beat Frazier's ass twice afterwards.
LedWhisky69 4 months ago
@LedWhisky69 A 1967 Ali would annihilate any boxer of any era.
michaelyouth 4 months ago
@LedWhisky69 ali wasnt even close to being out of shape when he fought frazier, though he was older, he did lose a lil bit of speed, ali fought frazier in his prime of his career, just not at his very best, which was before he was exiled
bumbasi89 4 months ago
@bumbasi89 Yes he was out of shape. In fact, he had come in at 215, which was his heaviest weight up until that time and it showed. He looked soft and lacked his usual muscularity. Once the fight entered the middle rounds, Ali clearly ran out of steam, which was very unusual for him up until that time. Fact is, Ali let his ego get the better of him and he took training camp too lightly. He honestly believed that Frazier would be no match and, of course, that belief cost him the fight.
LedWhisky69 4 months ago
@bumbasi89 And, of course, the real proof of Ali's unpreparedness for the first Frazier fight came when they fought again in '74. You can clearly see that he in GREAT shape for that fight. Dancing, moving, and throwing punches from the opening bell to the closing bell. He took it very seriously and it showed. The contrast between those fights shows you plainly the differences between an in-shape, focused Ali and out-of-shape, unfocused Ali.
LedWhisky69 4 months ago
@LedWhisky69 good point, i feel as thought if shit didnt go down and he wasnt exiled, just imagine how different the outcome wouldve been when he fought foreman, frazier, etc.,
bumbasi89 4 months ago
@bumbasi89 I know and it's ashame that we'll never get to know just how brilliant Ali's career might have been if he was never exiled. Can't take anything away from Frazier and Norton, but the man they fought was not the same man he was prior to his exile and I believe they knew this also.
LedWhisky69 4 months ago
@nastylefthook1
lol u are sh!t...
Ali fought and beat every big name in his time. Was never KO'd. Tyson fcked up against Holyfield and Lewis, the two best fighters he had to fight. The klits have fought no reputable opposition. Any athlete would understand...just look at the shape and physique of heavyweight boxers today..it is a joke. Clearly you are a fat american who doesn't get out much.
rock956 4 months ago
This is amazing.
michaelyouth 4 months ago
damn i kant even see them shits lol
michealjohnedmondson 4 months ago
i dont give shit about technichal as long as his is dancing , jabbing, shuffling, reflexing and keep winning
inviziblehunter 4 months ago
Ali had fast hands,no doubt but it was his timing that made him seem all that much faster.
Nickcat5 4 months ago
Sugar Ray Robinson was the same way. He telegraphed punches all the time. He'd pull his hands way back before he hit, but did it so fast that early in his career, nobody could beat him to the punch.
Rules like that in boxing are made for guys that have to fight AGAINST fighters like Robinson and Ali... who fight so good that they don't need rules.
fistofate 5 months ago
man every 1 thinks bruce lee is some sort of magic martial artist or something hes just some regular skinny chink with fast hands, good kicks , and a fighting mind
wereareyoumarn 5 months ago
powder puff puncher
loughran03 5 months ago
quit talkin' about bruce on an ali video and quit bashing bruce too. he maybe was a lightweight actor but was also the master of 4 world karate champions. they all say he was almost untouchable and he probably was pound for pound one of the strongest guy ever. he was no joke particularly in no rules fights. now in a boxing match he said himself ali would crush him.
kaifuryo 5 months ago
@kaifuryo The only time him and ali ever came up was when Bruce was watching Ali train at a gym. a reporter asked Bruce "Could you beat him?" and bruce said "Look at his big fist and then look at my small chinese fist." That's it.
adamzez 5 months ago
@adamzez yeah i said even bruce said that ali would beat him in boxing, but he also said he could have beat anybody in the world in no rules. what would ali do against a lightening kick in the balls?
kaifuryo 5 months ago
@kaifuryo Bruce never said Ali could beat him in boxing. It's obvious that Ali could have, but he never said that. And Joe Lewis even handed Ali his own ass, of course Bruce could have. Probably even without kicking him in the balls or poking his eye out. Cheers mate.
adamzez 5 months ago
@adamzez I understand you love Bruce Lee, but lets be realists. He would never beat Muhammad Ali in a boxing match even if they were in the same weight class. This is Muhammad Alis art. If you are saying Lee could beat Muhammad even with the weight difference, you are absolutely out of your mind.
HiMyNameIsRoss 5 months ago
@HiMyNameIsRoss I dont think anyone at all said Lee could beat Ali in a boxing match.
adamzez 5 months ago
@adamzez " And Joe Lewis even handed Ali his own ass, of course Bruce could have" sounds like you just did...........BTW its Joe Louis and he never "handed Ali his own ass."
HiMyNameIsRoss 5 months ago
@HiMyNameIsRoss I wasnt refering to a boxing match, which was what YOU were refering too. I was taking about outside the ring. Which Bruc eLee would have easily destroyed Ali. And no its Joe Lewis. Im not talking about Joe Louis the boxer. Joe LEWis trained with Bruce Lee and is a kick boxing champion. He did play around with Ali and was throwing him around easily. Nice try trying to sound like a know it all, though.
adamzez 5 months ago
@adamzez haha we have a genius over here. OK buddy you do not have to try and take this personal. Listen, I am a skeptical person. I will believe it when i see proof of him throwing ali around.
HiMyNameIsRoss 5 months ago
@HiMyNameIsRoss That's fine man. Believe what you want. You can go look it up. Ali is a ring boxer, he is no martial artist. So, honestly, its not surprising. But you can go look it up for yourself. Then come back here and come up with reasons why you doubt it happened. And BTW i am no Ali hater. I acknowledge Ali's skills for boxing and in the ring when rules and limitations babysit him. But outside of a boxing match, ...nah
adamzez 5 months ago
@adamzez You showing much ignorance. Boxing is a martial art, Einstein. By the way, I looked it up I found nothing. Send me a link I am interested.
HiMyNameIsRoss 5 months ago
@HiMyNameIsRoss martial arts is used to exceed physically, mentally, andspiritually. Boxing does not practice anything spiritual. Which is why boxers tend to be hot-headed assholes that trash talk all day.. By the way im a boxer as well. Its not the only thing i practice thuogh. I'm just saying this to say im not ignorant.
Just google muhammid ali joe lewis. it will send you to joe louis stuff, so you have to watch to click on joe lewis stuff.
adamzez 5 months ago
@adamzez Boxing is a martial art. End of discussion.
HiMyNameIsRoss 4 months ago
@HiMyNameIsRoss ITs not at all a martial Art. end of discussion.
adamzez 4 months ago
@adamzez mar·tial [mahr-shuhl]
1.
inclined or disposed to war; warlike: The ancient Romans were a martial people.
2.
of, suitable for, or associated with war or the armed forces: martial music.
3.
characteristic of or befitting a warrior: a martial stride.
zilveRug 4 months ago
@zilveRug you can google all you want. But if it doesnt practice physical, mental, and spiritual excellence, then its not a martial art.
adamzez 4 months ago
@HiMyNameIsRoss Do you understand that martial arts extend further than your Eastern Asian martial arts. Just because boxing is a "Western" sport does not make it any less of a martial art.
HiMyNameIsRoss 4 months ago
Middle weight maybe even welterweight hand speed in a heavyweight body, class!!
N1ghtstar4 5 months ago
@N1ghtstar4 Actually, it was recorded that Ali had greater hand speed even than the great Sugar Ray Robinson.
carmodifire 5 months ago 16
@carmodifire You're right. Robinson was a complete fighter but Ali was faster. Not p4p faster. Faster. This video isn't even Ali turning up the heat. His hand speed and reflexes were almost supernatural. If he had fought in a more traditional style and stepped into his punches like a big man instead of hitting them with his "near misses" when he had his opponents in trouble he might have killed people. Foreman said Ali was one of the few boxers to have compassion in his gloves.
maripocita37 5 months ago
@maripocita37 Actually, Ali did step into his punches a few times, but it was decent punching power, not 1 punch KO. That said, Ali was still improving incredibly,skillwise and physically. I think Ali in 1969/70 would beat any boxer at all, p4p or otherwise. Interesting,as Ali in his 'prime' had a higher KO ratio that Tyson in his prime taking into account quality of opposition. The reason was because Ali never tired, had the best counterpunching, and just kept at it, 100%.
carmodifire 5 months ago
@carmodifire We missed the very best Ali due to his 3 1/2 years of involuntary layoff. Ali had one of the best chins in history. The fastest heavy weight in history. Incredible work ethic. He wasn't technical like Louis, didn't have Ernie's punch or the best trainer but he was very smart and had "eyes" in the ring. He could adjust. He needed more traditional skills or to set down on his punches to deal with Norton. He could have done either and blasted him out. p4p Armstrong, srr or Ali
maripocita37 5 months ago
@maripocita37 tyson was faster and a much better puncher !!! but not as technical
wereareyoumarn 5 months ago
@wereareyoumarn Tyson was extremely technical. He had a genius behind him named Cus D'Amato who perfected a style which would beat a conventional boxer within the realm of boxing. It was based on Marciano and Dempsy's style. Fraizer emplyed that style to some extent. It was fully realized under Tyson. The concept of bobbing and weaving which negates the jab then unleashing a fury from all angles. I love Ali but prime Tyson MIGHT have beaten anyone. Don't think so but we will never know for sure
maripocita37 5 months ago
@carmodifire
ali was not faster sugar ray robinson
sugar ray robinson was like 3 weight classes below ali get ur head out of ur ass
toby099 4 months ago
@toby099 Jim Jacobs recorded Ali's jab at 5.5 frames, Robinson's at 8.5. He said that Ali was the fastest fighter he saw on film. Ali threw punches at around 0.04 seconds in his pro fights (jabs and the Phantom Punch)
carmodifire 4 months ago
@carmodifire recorded by who,when,with what?i doubt this ALOT!
dempsey981 3 months ago
@dempsey981 The legendary film collector, Jim Jacobs. He said that Ali's jab was at 5.5 frames, Robinson's at 8.5. He also said that Ali was THE fastest fighter he saw, not just HW
carmodifire 3 months ago
@carmodifire the 'legendary jim jacobs" cute.a new york fight film collector,boxing enthusiast.mostly a business man,involved early on with mike tyson.great.hes a man with an opinion,if this was his opinion as you say.ITS WRONG.no way ali's hand speed trumps ray robinson a welter/middleweight,ESPECIALLY THE GREATEST POUND FOR POUND FIGHTER THAT EVER LIVED.Christ its the dumbest fuckin thing i ever fuckin heard,and i dont even care who supposedly said it.ive got two eyes,and seen the films
dempsey981 3 months ago
@dempsey981 Well, it was also in a documentary, called ' the 5 laws of Muhammad Ali'. Also, the notion that a welter is automatically faster doesn't mean anything. Just look at how fast they punched. Robinson's combos were 'faster' because they covered less distance (hooks) but Ali had faster handspeed. Ali sparred against some middleweight champ and the middleweight said he couldn't hit Ali cuz he was too fast. It's not hard to believe, you know.
carmodifire 3 months ago
@carmodifire Well i can see you're infatuated with Ali,thats understandable,many people are.pre 1970 Ali was fast indeed,and if u compare and old robinson with a young Ali,youre still wrong.Ali was not faster than leonard,duran,or hearns,or mayweather or pacquioa AND I COULD GO ON AND ON FOREVER with names of other middles and welters.come back down to earth on your speed opinions please so we can talk.keep in mind Ali flicked alot of shots,and many were arm punches.real punches have WEIGHT.
dempsey981 3 months ago
@dempsey981 I know what you're saying, and Ali didn't sit on his punches. But, consider Ali's Phantom Punch. Fake or not. That was thrown in 0.04 seconds. It wasn't a jab, and there was weight behind it (you might say there wasn't, but that's debatable). And it wasn't just handspeed; when Ali did the Shuffle, the cameras didn't always have enough frames to capture it. If you compare combination punching, Ali is faster than those others, but not when throwing hooks. It can and has been measured.
carmodifire 3 months ago
@carmodifire punch for punch Robinson is faster.
MrBrunothedog 3 months ago
I bet he masturbates like a BOSS.
undisputed4life 5 months ago 29
@undisputed4life Thats funny shit loool
bertelliish 4 months ago
@bertelliish I bet he ejaculates so fast, he turns off the light off in his hotel and cums long before the room goes dark.
undisputed4life 4 months ago
@undisputed4life gtfoh lmao
bertelliish 4 months ago
@undisputed4life Shut up ali is my moms new loves best friend i met him bitch hell ko you
DillonMcD367 4 months ago
@DillonMcD367 I lost 15 IQ points from reading that. I can't understand a word you just said. But if you are implying that Mohammad Ali could knock out me at his age is impossible. He suffers from Parkinson
undisputed4life 4 months ago
@DillonMcD367 But he could definitely beat me up at his prime. But I don't see why. I never insulted him.
undisputed4life 4 months ago
@undisputed4life All you'd see is a mad blur, Jackson. Lol
LongDongSilver78 4 months ago
people talking about bruce lee here just shut up guys, ali wasnt an actor full of steroids
smokinlefthook 5 months ago
Bruce is incredibly fast. but his hits are critical
Ali is also quick but in boxing I'm sure Bruce will overcome...because his movements are Classic and direct
bruceleefollower 6 months ago
@bruceleefollower Right, a welterweight actor will beat the heavyweight boxing champion. I don't think so....
ph1484 5 months ago 3
@ph1484 lol
Makvilly7 5 months ago
@ph1484 :D made my day :D
PetePistolMaravich 5 months ago
@PetePistolMaravich lol you're welcome. But come on, some people are just nuts...
ph1484 5 months ago
@ph1484 exactly the guy was an actor. boxers prove their credentials by fighting the best,not extras on a movie set. bruce lee wasnt shit, how can you say chuck norris was your toughest opponent? who is also a shitbag
chadivadi 5 months ago
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@ph1484 exactly the guy was an actor. boxers prove their credentials by fighting the best,not extras on a movie set. bruce lee wasnt shit, how can you say chuck norris was your toughest opponent? who is also a shitbag
chadivadi 5 months ago
@ph1484 HEY! YOUR IGNORANT! FOR YOUR INFORMATION! BRUCE LEE WAS NOT A WELTERWEIGHT!
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he was a lightweight! ahahahaha but true
POTATER1228 5 months ago
Why did they put a blur where Ali's hands were supposed to be??
123michaeljones 6 months ago
Ali fought all the great guys. Who did Bruce Lee fought? Chuck Norris in Way of the Dragon? Lol exactly NO ONE.
Ali demonstrated his abilities n skills in the ring. Bruce? "Boards don't hit back" well Stunt actors/doubles can't hit back cuz they're paid so.
destroyxeverything 6 months ago
@destroyxeverything actually ali fought a few good guys and the rest are all puny now mike tyson fought mostly big guys and bruce lee actually fought alot before he became an actor he was in underground fights he grew up fighting its a daily basis as a child from picking fights in school to fighting gang members in his late teens
AlmightyMewtwo 6 months ago
@AlmightyMewtwo other way about , ali fought all greats doesn't matter what size , best fighter ever SSR was not big , ali was not exactly that big but moved so fast and processed punches like a computer so most missed .. could go 15 rounds .. tyson was awesome but no ALI .. tyson fought bums and got beat by the few that were not hand picked and fed to him , no comparison to ali ! absolute none , not once did tyson wear his heart on his sleeve .. he fought big unfit bums most the time ..
calbo555 6 months ago
@destroyxeverything
Don not compare the road with segment
My "friend" wrong....your "expensive" ali is no one.
have to learn very much until you reach the very roots of battle
bruceleefollower 6 months ago
Even angelo dundee said Ali had everything wrong, but that's what made him special. I didn't change him one bit
PSNDMII 6 months ago
@RsVu6
No he didn't. Bruce lee was taught by a special ninjitsu martial artist (the last remaining one), Ali was taught a special way to punch by the same martial artist master, aka Anchor Punch
PSNDMII 6 months ago
@Squeaky4CC WTF FAGGOT
MrMaarten1995 6 months ago
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InnocenceExperience 7 months ago
@Squeaky4CC people die, Legends live forever
brooklyn560 7 months ago
@Squeaky4CC stfu dont even say that
XSVterror18 7 months ago
@Squeaky4CC No Ali is the greatest he will atleast be alive for a decade!
thisiswarson 7 months ago
@Squeaky4CC :(
Makvilly7 7 months ago
chuck norris has wayyyy better footwork
z71caimanero 7 months ago
TEXTBOOK ANYTHING WERE WRITTEN by white dudes (not trying to be offensive) who loved to pontificate all the little details of everything...while it was the NEGRO or INJAN (indian) that defied all that logic. or it could be the Japanese or Chinese that created whatever.
there's a different between text and DOING...you can sure up technique by trail and error in 'DOING'...not sitting around running your mouth. it's always the scientist, that studys the wild, that get all the praise.