This is an excerpt from the film "911 Eyewitness Hoboken". In it, the sound analys from the time around the collapse of south tower, is even more revealing. There you hear more exploisions preceeding the fall. Seismic recordings of the two collapses also show up significantly different on the Richter Scale, 2.1 for the South and 2.3 for the North, which considerating the logaritmic scale amounts to a big difference in energy. The North was blown harder and more concentrated.
@SexSteakSoda There was just very small tiny Part of the Core left from Northtower! Nothing was left from the building! I think you have to do research! :) xD
I can make that exact noise by breathing over an open microphone. Basically, the mic picks up "wind noise", and you Truthers claim that's explosions? Nice edit to create evidence. It's amazing that no other video has these sounds in them, isn't it? Amazing that a camera standing at the edge of a the Hudson River in open wind is the only one to pick up these "explosions".
from 3:09 thruout u can see some small flashes in the base those are signs of demolition in the basement befre collapse,also search demolition truck seen on 9/11,in front of wtc
u no they tried a demolition truck in the basement - didnt work. also the collapse starts at the top. with any controlled demo u start at the bottom and fire rapidly in sequence up to the top. not top down, and also not with people in it. if it was a controlled demo how do u explain the need 4 2 planes 2 crash. u cud cover it up by saying a fire broke out in the tower - a lot more subtle
Upward, outward ejections, large streamers of heavy debris being launched for 100s of metres at speed and lodging in surrounding buildings...gravity did this?....LOL!
Poetry Hound: Science has jack shit to do with the crap you just posted. I dispise people like you who have other people do the research for them and cite it as fact. From official sources... you don't get it do you? It's sad.
Norad offline because of a drill the only day of the year, military monitored the planes crash to world trace center, air port was fooled by thinking all was a drill, think about it, how can two men drom a cave leran to shut off tracking on tho big passanger jets anyway, why it there not a singel photo from the airports of this men? why cant usa prove any connections to bin landin? is bush responsible? yes!
maybe it's because sound travels faster than light - you always hear thunder first before you see the lightning. You will hear the explosion first, before... just a thought to conider...
LOL i was gonna say....i have never heard thunder before lightning..where do they come up with this??????lmao i think i'm gonna wet myself..lightning, one-one thousand, 2-1 thousand, 3-1 thousand, thunder....omg thunder came before lightning....lmao
2:03 - 2:13 you can see the explosive charges going off around the lower part of the building, those arent blown out windows or office paper, those are explosives! nasty.
mo1912 has solved it. Who needs structural engineers with all their expertise and experience? Who needs metallurgists or fire engineers or seismologists or demolition experts? Just use your eyes. So go look out your window and see that the ground is flat, and therefore the Earth is flat. Don't be misled by the official "round earth" theories based on years of research and experience. Just look out the window. It looks flat.
I think PH talks complete bollocks . Iv read engineers who question the collapse . Anyhow who needs them I have enough intelligence to know that the only people who can make a building collapse like a controlled demolition are experts if fire and a few broken windows would do it they would all be out of a job .
Forces inside the building are not easy to estimate Alot of chance operations are taking place explosive dust, melting plastics, jet fuel, oxygen moving in many directions I've seen no real evidence that anything other than an amazing plane attack took place that day.
Five years after the attack and not a single civil engineer (structural, construction or otherwise), mechanical / materials engineer with a background in construction methods or materials, forensic engineer, fire engineer, demolition expert, construction expert or metallurgist has questioned the collapse theory or NIST's findings.
The fatal weakness of the conspiracy theories is that they have no support from structural or civil engineers with highrise construction, no support from metalurgists, seismologists, fire engineers, or demolition experts. The CTs are put forward by people who fancy themselves experts, but they have no experience. They just claim their misinterpretations & misrepresentations are true "because they say so." And then they presumptuously tell everyone else to "wake up."
KevinCanada, no credible analyst says there should have been a 1 second delay on each floor. The tremendous kinetic energy of the collapse rendered the resistance of individual floors insignificant. Who says more of the beams should have ended up being longer? And who says the leaning building top should not have fallen straight down? Looks like you've simply decided you're a demo expert. But there's not one demo expert that says the twin towers came down in explosive demolitions.
Even with the massive amount of weight falling down, the steel structure would have given more than 1 second of delay if this "pan-cake theory" was correct. Another thing, if it did pancake, the top portion would for the most part still be in tact cuz it has a ride down. Sure it wouldnt be in good condition, but the steel beams wouldnt be as short and broken as they were. And one more, at 1:56, you can see the top portion lean to the side, and miraculously still fall straight down.
Heres a question! The towers BOTH fell at freefall speed (the fastest the towers could have possibly fell with no resistance).. last time i checked, both towers got hit more towards the top. All those floors below, the one that were not damaged would have had a shit load of resistance; probably not held up, but would have slowed the fall for sure.
The towers did not fall at freefall speed, but not far behind it. At about .54 of this video, see the debris falling faster than the collapse? THAT'S falling at freefall, not the tower. As for resistance, it's not a case of the top of the building vs. the bottom of the building. It's a case of the top collapsing mass of multiple floor vs. 1 lower floor at a time. The load-bearing capacity of any single floor was overwhelmed by the mass & momentum of ALL the upper floors.
Let's see, your video is apparently about a mile away... figuring for the speed of sound you're off by a few seconds. Also, your puff of smoke at street level can be explained by about 10 stories collapsing internally and displacing a large volume of air that needs to escape somewhere.
wow, you're really stupid aren't you. light travels faster than sound, way faster. you would have seen the light first, not the other way around. i mean, good lord, if you're going to be that dumb don't bother to comment.
Yahoo the second the explosive charges go off does not mean the structure of such a size would start to fall in fact with the use of complex explosive boosters it would be delayed most likely.
The thing is by all accounts there were multiple explosions over the 20/40 minute period of the fires, so the answer would be no. Also, pictures of the columns show them to have been cut at their bases at 45 and 135 degree angels, each with previously molten metal stained around their sides which strongly suggests the use of a metallic-incendiary divice, such as thermate.
Troubling things about 9/11: The day it happened all the FAA tapes were destroyed - There has been no released airport security footage of the hijackers entering the terminal... NONE - Dick Chaney's unprecedented role in NORAD including the fact that he moved the drills from AUG. to SEPT. - The fact that the B!n Lad!n 9/11 confession tape clearly does not show B!n Lad!n in it. And I would truly love to know what caused the molten metal for 3 weeks at the bottom of Trade Centers 1, 2, and 7.
it created a chink in the middle, causing it to collapse in on itself. look at a closer view controled explosion. i can recoginize those eaisly. next to no damage was done to buildings right next to them. every thing was bent inwards, because the inner collums were 'cut'(melted in a sense), which cannot be done by a jet plane, as jet fuel does not burn hot enough to melt it, and the plane itelf would break, before it cuts through.
Yes at least one demolition expert said WTC was controlled demolition. A Dutch guy. I think maybe it's on 9/11 Mysteries. They show him the video before he knows what it is. Then they tell him it's WTC 7 and he's floored.
That's Danny Jowenko, & the interviewer didn't tell him WTC 7 got hit by WTC1, that it had major fires raging in it (according to FDNY), that in footage with sound there is no sign of detonation charges, or that the collapse was expected by FDNY & other experts on the scene. So he didn't have all the info that would have been useful to make a judgment. BTW, if you think Jowenko is credible, note that he says WTC 1 & 2 are NOT controlled demolitions.
Poor JoeCraine has finally flipped his lid, sometimes claiming there was no plane, sometimes claiming it's fuselage was incinerated in the tower, sometimes claiming the smoke was fake (I'm not making this up) and sometimes saying there was black sooty smoke, now he claims that just because I point out his errors that I somehow murdered a person who died on 911 but who speaks to him from the grave. Is this really the best the 911 "Truth" community has to offer?
No, there's no evidence all the videos and photos were altered. Looks like JoeCraine's only evidence is the voices in his head. Edna Cintron died on 911. She doesn't agree with anybody. Typical drek from the dwindling 911 "Truth" community.
More important, JoeCraine ridicules those who died on 911 by inventing phony crackpot tales of holograms, flying saucers, invisible smoke, and dead people who talk to him. He must be working for the White House and acting like a lunatic on YouTube in order to discredit all conspiracy theorists.
Look at troglodyte JoeCraine. He calls firemen liars. He calls structural engineers liars. He calls demolition experts and metallurgists liars. The hundreds of eyewitnesses who saw the plane hit the Pentagon are all liars. Anyone who disagrees with the voices he hears in his head is a liar. He ridicules all who died on 911 with his deranged, unsubstantiated ramblings.
I have seen all the videos I need to see, I know what happened in those towers its not hard to figure it out. I'm a firefighter, I know how fire behaves and how fire and explosions can effect the structural integrity of a building.
There is no mystery to 9/11, you can just ask the families of the 343 Firefighter, 23 NYPD officers, and the 37 PAPD officers who gave their lives to try and save the 2,602 innocent people who they thought might still be allive in those two towers.
Steel makes alot of noise when it twists and bends, thats what you heard, the structural framework of the building finally giving way to the intense heat. And dont give me that crap about steel not melting untill 1500 degree's or whatever temp you have come up with. Steel warps and becomes structurally unsound at 900 degree's. And tempurature in the towers, was simply unbarable to even imagine.
i dont find this funny. never been an explosion there. Instead making such stupid videos they should find Bin Laden and his camel-fucking, shiteating terrorist group named al-kaida. We all want to see Bin laden as soon as possible in the concentration camp on Guantanamo. God bless all the victims from 9/11!
evidence of explosives have been found- but not a lot because they carted all the metal away before anyone could see it. Everyone knows that- and that is suspicious big time. What did we need the money for the scrap that bad? We couldn't take the time and analyse the steel to find out what went wrong? usually thats what we do you know- when something goes wrong we find out why- so explain why they took all the steel away so quicly without any investigation.
"its obvious that it was controlled because how else would it fall so neatly to the ground + the US needed a reason to invade iraq" They just forgot to frame Saddam right? Doh!
I clearly heard a large explosion a few seconds before it collapsed. The internal columns must have been blown up at the bottom thus the top of the columns pulled it down.
All kinds of things cause explosions in fires. The tower collapses began on the impact floors where explosives, detonators, and cabling would not have survived the plane impacts, fireballs, fires, and intense heat. There does not appear to have been any structural weakening at the bottom.
No doubt the area of inpact was weekend. What funny is the core of the building offered like no resistence when it all went down. You can see a few horizontal explosions come out of the building way below the colapsing area. Also there are countless video records of people saying there were explosions before the colapse, like the north tower lobby and that printing press that was completely disjarred.
Once the collapse began, with the weight of all those floors above it, there were no structural elements, including the core columns, that had the design strength to resist that enormous downward force.
Yes, lots of people heard explosions and what they thought were explosions. Lots of things cause explosions in a fire. Again, no evidence of explosives was ever found and no demo experts say that it was a controlled demolition. Not one.
Once the collapse began, with the weight of all those floors above it, there were no structural elements, including the core columns, that had the design strength to resist that enormous downward force.
jet fuel is kerosene, which burns at max well below the temperature to weaken the steel, let alone melt it.the steel was certified by Underwriter's Laboratory to burn for six hours at 3000F before starting to weaken.stop saying 'jet fuel' like its some ultra potent magic hot substance,its just kerosene.
As for the explosion at the bottom of the building, it could have occurred because the upper floors are already falling down, producing a large downward force on the lower floors,and it happened that the columns at the bottom were the first to fail under compression, thereby bursting.
Again, I'm not expert, these are just my own thoughts, but the concepts I've given can be verified. Think of this before you make more ridiculous claims, and God bless the victims, may they rest in peace.
As soon as one "layer" of the building fails under compression, a loud explosion would occur (strong concrete literally explodes when it fails in compression). The displacement, or falling of the above structure would not be visible to the naked eye for a few seconds still, because it needs to accelerate from a zero velocity. (continued...)
First, I want to say I'm no expert, just making an educated observation. This much I do know: When concrete fails under compression, it produces a very loud bang; even small specimens do. Now, imagine columns in the WTC failing...that could possibly produce a very loud noise. A plane crashing would create a huge impact, and an enormous subsequent fire that burns very hot. This weakens steel members, as well as steel reinforcement inside concrete supports, inducing failure. (continued...)
The tower begins its collapse on the impact floors. Any planted explosives, detonators and wiring would not have survived the 500 mph plane impact, fireball, raging fires, and heat. Assuming the seismic evidence presented in this video is correct, it is registering something else, not a detonation on the impact floors.
So the concrete floors collapsed long before the building collapsed. Where did all the pulverized concrete come from when the shell collapsed if the floors had already collapsed? Notice that the "explosions" occur well before the shell collapses.
The US government must of thought we didnt pay attention in science class! watch "911 eyewitness hoboken" and see how the "official story" should be dismissed!!
i am tired of listening to stupid theories supporting the "official story"!! The "official story" defies science! are we really supposed to believe that just because the US government tells us how it happened(even though their version of events are scientifically impossible) then thats how it is? BULLSHIT!
The puff of smoke may of been cause by the Steel finally buckling cause of the weight which possibly cause fires in the basement of Both towers cause the steel being thrusted out could of triggered electrical expolsions
The "explosion" in the beginning is obviously things in the tower where the plane hit finally starting to give way. The dust from the street? Can be explained by either the way the vents and elevators acted as a way to jet the debris down much faster than gravity, or something that flew out from the initial plane crash and maybe started a fire below
By the way, after I saw this piece that aired recently from Jon Stewart's show, I've come to the conclusion that it's one of the most obvious showings of our government lying about the phony war on terror.
My mouth dropped open at the answers given at this press conference regarding the Miami 7 "terror cell".
A Finnish military expert believes "mini-nukes" were used in the basements of the towers. As an above poster stated, these "smart bombs" would destroy the core columns, and only explosives can cause such extreme heat/melting of the foundation...Google "Finnish Military Expert", his writings are sobering and cut to the chase...
Ekhm.. over a WEEK after the attacks, when they finally reached the basement, the main foundation steel reinforcements were over a thousand degrees hot. Watch Loose Change 2nd Edition.
Okay, say there were bombs in the BASEMENT. Why does the building collapse from the TOP down? Wouldn't an explosion in the basement collapse the lower floors first?
A controlled demolition does not have to be from bottom up (obviously). And explosion in the basement exists only to take out the core columns, the supporting columns. Otherwise, you would just have collapsed floors with the 47 core columns protruding into the air. Not satisfactory if your goal is a complete demolition.
Basements are blown out in buildings so the collapsing upper floors have a placed to accumulate. It is the objective of controlled demolition to blow basements out in order for the collapsing building to fall on its footprint.
@lnielsen76 But the base was still intact under all the debris. Some 20+ floors were still fully intact. Do some research before you buy into this conspiracy bullshit.
The jet fuel exploded into a giant fireball outside the building nor would it produce a white dust cloud rising up from the bottom of the building had it indeed traveled down the elevator shaft. Have some respect for those who died that day and stop lying.
about you saying "people will believe anything", well said. people WILL believe anything. and the government and the media takes advantage of this, so they cause 9/11, and LIE about the terrorists doing this. and they make up a fake "official story", and this gave them an excuse to go to the middle east for war and oil. not a war on terrorism, a war for oil. and people are STILL believing that it was iraqis or afghans.
i hope you people realize how bad you people make yourselves look by taking these events for more than face value. look at some of these comments; KNOK DOWN DA TOWERS. you people are some of the most un-educated, narrow-minded, and ignorant people i have ever seen. i mean, its actually mind boggling how retarded the general public is. its comforting to know that people like you guys are never going to hold valuable positions in society.
If you pay real close attention, you can see a cloud of white smoke come up from the base of the tower. Therefore, if this is an explosion, I would put it in the basement of the tower.
to see that explosion, u must see the crashes in super-slo-mo. search my videos, i uploaded one with those explosions, but i forgot what i named it, so try n find it. just search my user name. and even if u fail to believe in%2
to see that explosion, u must see the crashes in super-slo-mo. search my videos, i uploaded one with those explosions, but i forgot what i named it, so try n find it. just search my user name. and even if u fail to believe in these explosions, it is quite obviouse that 9/11 was an inside job.
whats so obvious? because Bush wanted an excuse to go to war? lmao seriously though do you really believe this? ok then lets say it was an inside job , where the hell did the planes come from? i mean the thoughts crossed my mind about it being an inside job but its highly unlikely
are you aware that the gov't could have EASILY got those planes from ANYWHERE!? they could fake anything and ppl would still love them. and apparently, this is true, because look at ppl like you, you seem to love Bush so much. well, if you cant grasp your mind around the thought of the US doing this, then try realizing all the things that theyre hiding, never answering qustions, almost as if theyre hiding something they dont want to share. and then maybe you hould try and research the evidence.
Love Bush? lol i hate him & Blair (our PM) if this was what happened dont you think ppl would be looking into it? of course ppl (like you) are going to want to believe this was an inside job it makes your life that wee bit more exciting! on the other hand you could be right, i wdnt put it past them , i really dont know what to believe and to be honest i really dont care anymore , the worlds mad
well, i guess that 42% of americans must be insande as you claim ppl like me are. because an online poll said that 42% of americans believe that there is something not right about the official story and that it should be investigated again. i just thought that i should mention that, okay. interesting fact.
This is the most interesting analysis of the WTC collapse I've ever seen. Couple this with the "power-down" of the South Tower the weekend before and you have a story with teeth.
valid point,but ur forgetting that there were still floors that were intact above the impact zone.the floors that collapsed were the floors that were damaged by the plane.the floors above that were still intact,including the WTCrestaurant at the very top of the building.once the floors at the impact zone collapsed,the weight of the intact floors above could no longer be supported, so the floors above(along with the rest of the top of the building)fell down and crushed everything below.
You are ignoring evidence and photos that show people standing in the holes where the planes impacted the buildings. How then can these people stand on floors you allege to have collapsed? It is improbable that a collapsing section of a few floors would be heard across the river in New Jersey (where the video footage comes from.)
i already said in another video, its not an explosion, its a floor pancaking down onto another floor, it only sounds so loud because the floors weight more than your house. now imagine ur house falling 15 feet down onto another house, i bet it would sound like an explosion too
As I rebutted your comment, if the floors were pancaking before the building exploded into pulverized concrete and shattered steel, where did the pulverized concrete come from if not the floors and what caused the ejection of shattered steel and pulverized concrete if not collapsing floors?
This is an excerpt from the film "911 Eyewitness Hoboken". In it, the sound analys from the time around the collapse of south tower, is even more revealing. There you hear more exploisions preceeding the fall. Seismic recordings of the two collapses also show up significantly different on the Richter Scale, 2.1 for the South and 2.3 for the North, which considerating the logaritmic scale amounts to a big difference in energy. The North was blown harder and more concentrated.
HurburBurbur 4 months ago
people just want To believe people in the towers didn't die for nothing...
Thanks to the war greedy US goverment it did happen.. because they wanted to attack iraq(oi) and afghanistan(papaver poppies)
sjeffke1989 5 months ago
@SexSteakSoda There was just very small tiny Part of the Core left from Northtower! Nothing was left from the building! I think you have to do research! :) xD
74pbg 1 year ago
I can make that exact noise by breathing over an open microphone. Basically, the mic picks up "wind noise", and you Truthers claim that's explosions? Nice edit to create evidence. It's amazing that no other video has these sounds in them, isn't it? Amazing that a camera standing at the edge of a the Hudson River in open wind is the only one to pick up these "explosions".
/watch?v=0Fpv6pxsrOQ
"You could feel the window ... bowing."
THOSE are explosions, Truthers.
/watch?v=7Ng5qwtR59A
diskpanic 2 years ago
Why does Sulu from Star Trek do the voiceover on this video?
andytillott 2 years ago
from 3:09 thruout u can see some small flashes in the base those are signs of demolition in the basement befre collapse,also search demolition truck seen on 9/11,in front of wtc
skaterride2 3 years ago 3
u no they tried a demolition truck in the basement - didnt work. also the collapse starts at the top. with any controlled demo u start at the bottom and fire rapidly in sequence up to the top. not top down, and also not with people in it. if it was a controlled demo how do u explain the need 4 2 planes 2 crash. u cud cover it up by saying a fire broke out in the tower - a lot more subtle
wardo221 2 years ago
Upward, outward ejections, large streamers of heavy debris being launched for 100s of metres at speed and lodging in surrounding buildings...gravity did this?....LOL!
Now thats a conspiracy theory...
Wyndup 3 years ago
Where are the explosions?
morris30328 3 years ago
Poetry Hound: Science has jack shit to do with the crap you just posted. I dispise people like you who have other people do the research for them and cite it as fact. From official sources... you don't get it do you? It's sad.
BlackHuskyzz 4 years ago 4
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PoetryHound 4 years ago
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begotka2007 4 years ago
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begotka2007 4 years ago
digital editing system? probaly digital explosion, controlled demolition my ass!
TheMaskedGecko 4 years ago
Norad offline because of a drill the only day of the year, military monitored the planes crash to world trace center, air port was fooled by thinking all was a drill, think about it, how can two men drom a cave leran to shut off tracking on tho big passanger jets anyway, why it there not a singel photo from the airports of this men? why cant usa prove any connections to bin landin? is bush responsible? yes!
snaljapen 4 years ago
maybe it's because sound travels faster than light - you always hear thunder first before you see the lightning. You will hear the explosion first, before... just a thought to conider...
x39s 4 years ago
is this a joke? light travels faster than sound, you see the lightning first, then the thunder. Who doesn't know this?
jpenns 4 years ago
LOL i was gonna say....i have never heard thunder before lightning..where do they come up with this??????lmao i think i'm gonna wet myself..lightning, one-one thousand, 2-1 thousand, 3-1 thousand, thunder....omg thunder came before lightning....lmao
ruthyatred 4 years ago
what do you think what noise tons of steel and concrete bending, building up tense and finally breaking make? right a huge rumble ..
no need for an explosion
schlafanzyk 4 years ago
Fear of living on
Natives getting restless now
Mutiny in the air
Got some death to do
Mirror stares back hard
kill is such a friendly word
seems the only way
for reaching out again
MrKnoxville351 4 years ago
2:03 - 2:13 you can see the explosive charges going off around the lower part of the building, those arent blown out windows or office paper, those are explosives! nasty.
realistromeo 4 years ago
yes i saw that shit...goddaamn
PMC26 4 years ago
Hmm from 2:15 to 2:23 you can cleary see a core of the building. It's falling after the floors.
Marcinex22 4 years ago
damn ure right ive never seen that before!
XxkilladudexX 4 years ago
mo1912 has solved it. Who needs structural engineers with all their expertise and experience? Who needs metallurgists or fire engineers or seismologists or demolition experts? Just use your eyes. So go look out your window and see that the ground is flat, and therefore the Earth is flat. Don't be misled by the official "round earth" theories based on years of research and experience. Just look out the window. It looks flat.
PoetryHound 5 years ago
I think PH talks complete bollocks . Iv read engineers who question the collapse . Anyhow who needs them I have enough intelligence to know that the only people who can make a building collapse like a controlled demolition are experts if fire and a few broken windows would do it they would all be out of a job .
mo1912 5 years ago
Forces inside the building are not easy to estimate Alot of chance operations are taking place explosive dust, melting plastics, jet fuel, oxygen moving in many directions I've seen no real evidence that anything other than an amazing plane attack took place that day.
ambroulard 5 years ago
JoeCraine is one of those people who CLICK HERE YOU JUST WON 1ST PRIZE flashing bright banners
bigepi 5 years ago
This really makes me think
grant227 5 years ago
Five years after the attack and not a single civil engineer (structural, construction or otherwise), mechanical / materials engineer with a background in construction methods or materials, forensic engineer, fire engineer, demolition expert, construction expert or metallurgist has questioned the collapse theory or NIST's findings.
PoetryHound 5 years ago
The fatal weakness of the conspiracy theories is that they have no support from structural or civil engineers with highrise construction, no support from metalurgists, seismologists, fire engineers, or demolition experts. The CTs are put forward by people who fancy themselves experts, but they have no experience. They just claim their misinterpretations & misrepresentations are true "because they say so." And then they presumptuously tell everyone else to "wake up."
PoetryHound 5 years ago
KevinCanada, no credible analyst says there should have been a 1 second delay on each floor. The tremendous kinetic energy of the collapse rendered the resistance of individual floors insignificant. Who says more of the beams should have ended up being longer? And who says the leaning building top should not have fallen straight down? Looks like you've simply decided you're a demo expert. But there's not one demo expert that says the twin towers came down in explosive demolitions.
PoetryHound 5 years ago
Even with the massive amount of weight falling down, the steel structure would have given more than 1 second of delay if this "pan-cake theory" was correct. Another thing, if it did pancake, the top portion would for the most part still be in tact cuz it has a ride down. Sure it wouldnt be in good condition, but the steel beams wouldnt be as short and broken as they were. And one more, at 1:56, you can see the top portion lean to the side, and miraculously still fall straight down.
KevinCanada87 5 years ago
Heres a question! The towers BOTH fell at freefall speed (the fastest the towers could have possibly fell with no resistance).. last time i checked, both towers got hit more towards the top. All those floors below, the one that were not damaged would have had a shit load of resistance; probably not held up, but would have slowed the fall for sure.
KevinCanada87 5 years ago
The towers did not fall at freefall speed, but not far behind it. At about .54 of this video, see the debris falling faster than the collapse? THAT'S falling at freefall, not the tower. As for resistance, it's not a case of the top of the building vs. the bottom of the building. It's a case of the top collapsing mass of multiple floor vs. 1 lower floor at a time. The load-bearing capacity of any single floor was overwhelmed by the mass & momentum of ALL the upper floors.
PoetryHound 5 years ago
Let's see, your video is apparently about a mile away... figuring for the speed of sound you're off by a few seconds. Also, your puff of smoke at street level can be explained by about 10 stories collapsing internally and displacing a large volume of air that needs to escape somewhere.
BellaCroix 5 years ago
wow, you're really stupid aren't you. light travels faster than sound, way faster. you would have seen the light first, not the other way around. i mean, good lord, if you're going to be that dumb don't bother to comment.
yahoo606 5 years ago
Yahoo the second the explosive charges go off does not mean the structure of such a size would start to fall in fact with the use of complex explosive boosters it would be delayed most likely.
KingdomAwaits 4 years ago
The thing is by all accounts there were multiple explosions over the 20/40 minute period of the fires, so the answer would be no. Also, pictures of the columns show them to have been cut at their bases at 45 and 135 degree angels, each with previously molten metal stained around their sides which strongly suggests the use of a metallic-incendiary divice, such as thermate.
yahoo606 4 years ago
That's what I just basicly said. Very good.
KingdomAwaits 4 years ago
Fear of living on
Natives getting restless now
Mutiny in the air
Got some death to do
Mirror stares back hard
kill is such a friendly word
seems the only way
for reaching out again
MrKnoxville351 4 years ago
Thermite you mean? if they did all this exploding and stuff at the bottom, how come it fell from the top, and crushed the building from the top?
rjt123456 4 years ago
Troubling things about 9/11: The day it happened all the FAA tapes were destroyed - There has been no released airport security footage of the hijackers entering the terminal... NONE - Dick Chaney's unprecedented role in NORAD including the fact that he moved the drills from AUG. to SEPT. - The fact that the B!n Lad!n 9/11 confession tape clearly does not show B!n Lad!n in it. And I would truly love to know what caused the molten metal for 3 weeks at the bottom of Trade Centers 1, 2, and 7.
oohay606 4 years ago
it created a chink in the middle, causing it to collapse in on itself. look at a closer view controled explosion. i can recoginize those eaisly. next to no damage was done to buildings right next to them. every thing was bent inwards, because the inner collums were 'cut'(melted in a sense), which cannot be done by a jet plane, as jet fuel does not burn hot enough to melt it, and the plane itelf would break, before it cuts through.
keinve2 4 years ago
Also im not defending BellaCroix at all. Much to the contrary of course.
KingdomAwaits 4 years ago
Yes at least one demolition expert said WTC was controlled demolition. A Dutch guy. I think maybe it's on 9/11 Mysteries. They show him the video before he knows what it is. Then they tell him it's WTC 7 and he's floored.
wonderpec 5 years ago
That's Danny Jowenko, & the interviewer didn't tell him WTC 7 got hit by WTC1, that it had major fires raging in it (according to FDNY), that in footage with sound there is no sign of detonation charges, or that the collapse was expected by FDNY & other experts on the scene. So he didn't have all the info that would have been useful to make a judgment. BTW, if you think Jowenko is credible, note that he says WTC 1 & 2 are NOT controlled demolitions.
PoetryHound 5 years ago
lots of nuts out there , oh man , alot of lefty whackjobs . way too much drugging and drink.
drh42357 5 years ago
I can doctor evidence to prove Godzilla destroyed the world trade center.
mookiebuelock 5 years ago
Poor JoeCraine has finally flipped his lid, sometimes claiming there was no plane, sometimes claiming it's fuselage was incinerated in the tower, sometimes claiming the smoke was fake (I'm not making this up) and sometimes saying there was black sooty smoke, now he claims that just because I point out his errors that I somehow murdered a person who died on 911 but who speaks to him from the grave. Is this really the best the 911 "Truth" community has to offer?
PoetryHound 5 years ago
No, there's no evidence all the videos and photos were altered. Looks like JoeCraine's only evidence is the voices in his head. Edna Cintron died on 911. She doesn't agree with anybody. Typical drek from the dwindling 911 "Truth" community.
PoetryHound 5 years ago
There's not a demolition expert in the world that says the towers were brought down in a controlled demolition. Not one. In the world.
PoetryHound 5 years ago
More important, JoeCraine ridicules those who died on 911 by inventing phony crackpot tales of holograms, flying saucers, invisible smoke, and dead people who talk to him. He must be working for the White House and acting like a lunatic on YouTube in order to discredit all conspiracy theorists.
PoetryHound 5 years ago
Look at troglodyte JoeCraine. He calls firemen liars. He calls structural engineers liars. He calls demolition experts and metallurgists liars. The hundreds of eyewitnesses who saw the plane hit the Pentagon are all liars. Anyone who disagrees with the voices he hears in his head is a liar. He ridicules all who died on 911 with his deranged, unsubstantiated ramblings.
PoetryHound 5 years ago
I have seen all the videos I need to see, I know what happened in those towers its not hard to figure it out. I'm a firefighter, I know how fire behaves and how fire and explosions can effect the structural integrity of a building.
There is no mystery to 9/11, you can just ask the families of the 343 Firefighter, 23 NYPD officers, and the 37 PAPD officers who gave their lives to try and save the 2,602 innocent people who they thought might still be allive in those two towers.
M1Abrams 5 years ago
Steel makes alot of noise when it twists and bends, thats what you heard, the structural framework of the building finally giving way to the intense heat. And dont give me that crap about steel not melting untill 1500 degree's or whatever temp you have come up with. Steel warps and becomes structurally unsound at 900 degree's. And tempurature in the towers, was simply unbarable to even imagine.
M1Abrams 5 years ago
i dont find this funny. never been an explosion there. Instead making such stupid videos they should find Bin Laden and his camel-fucking, shiteating terrorist group named al-kaida. We all want to see Bin laden as soon as possible in the concentration camp on Guantanamo. God bless all the victims from 9/11!
vittel83 5 years ago
All of the steel was analyed TO DEATH. BY ENGRS!
The most important pieces were kept. Alot of it was redundant to say the least.
There was no evidence of explosives outside of the plane impact AT ALL! N-O-N-E!!
bobby9tips 5 years ago
evidence of explosives have been found- but not a lot because they carted all the metal away before anyone could see it. Everyone knows that- and that is suspicious big time. What did we need the money for the scrap that bad? We couldn't take the time and analyse the steel to find out what went wrong? usually thats what we do you know- when something goes wrong we find out why- so explain why they took all the steel away so quicly without any investigation.
PeopleFor911Justice 5 years ago
"its obvious that it was controlled because how else would it fall so neatly to the ground + the US needed a reason to invade iraq" They just forgot to frame Saddam right? Doh!
LoudHoward 5 years ago
Right! And after pulling off the most complex plot in world history, they weren't able to plant some WMD in Iraq. Doh!
PoetryHound 5 years ago
its obvious that it was controlled because how else would it fall so neatly to the ground + the US needed a reason to invade iraq
gingerdrivebum 5 years ago
no the ppl th~ make these vids want us to think like that! THE PLANES CRASHED INTO THE BUILDINGS REMEMBER? fuck everything else , it was the planes
pogo14022002 5 years ago
I clearly heard a large explosion a few seconds before it collapsed. The internal columns must have been blown up at the bottom thus the top of the columns pulled it down.
JayZoop 5 years ago
All kinds of things cause explosions in fires. The tower collapses began on the impact floors where explosives, detonators, and cabling would not have survived the plane impacts, fireballs, fires, and intense heat. There does not appear to have been any structural weakening at the bottom.
PoetryHound 5 years ago
No doubt the area of inpact was weekend. What funny is the core of the building offered like no resistence when it all went down. You can see a few horizontal explosions come out of the building way below the colapsing area. Also there are countless video records of people saying there were explosions before the colapse, like the north tower lobby and that printing press that was completely disjarred.
JayZoop 5 years ago
Once the collapse began, with the weight of all those floors above it, there were no structural elements, including the core columns, that had the design strength to resist that enormous downward force.
PoetryHound 5 years ago
Yes, lots of people heard explosions and what they thought were explosions. Lots of things cause explosions in a fire. Again, no evidence of explosives was ever found and no demo experts say that it was a controlled demolition. Not one.
PoetryHound 5 years ago
Once the collapse began, with the weight of all those floors above it, there were no structural elements, including the core columns, that had the design strength to resist that enormous downward force.
PoetryHound 5 years ago
jet fuel is kerosene, which burns at max well below the temperature to weaken the steel, let alone melt it.the steel was certified by Underwriter's Laboratory to burn for six hours at 3000F before starting to weaken.stop saying 'jet fuel' like its some ultra potent magic hot substance,its just kerosene.
boomshakk 5 years ago
As for the explosion at the bottom of the building, it could have occurred because the upper floors are already falling down, producing a large downward force on the lower floors,and it happened that the columns at the bottom were the first to fail under compression, thereby bursting.
Again, I'm not expert, these are just my own thoughts, but the concepts I've given can be verified. Think of this before you make more ridiculous claims, and God bless the victims, may they rest in peace.
jansend 5 years ago
So, to recap:
1. Plane hits and explodes due to fuel
2. Heats up steel in building, which weakens it
3. Something finally gives, putting all the load on the concrete columns, causing them to fail under compression of the weight of the floors above
4. Concrete failing in compression = BANG
5. Domino effect; entire structure comes down (continued...)
jansend 5 years ago
As soon as one "layer" of the building fails under compression, a loud explosion would occur (strong concrete literally explodes when it fails in compression). The displacement, or falling of the above structure would not be visible to the naked eye for a few seconds still, because it needs to accelerate from a zero velocity. (continued...)
jansend 5 years ago
First, I want to say I'm no expert, just making an educated observation. This much I do know: When concrete fails under compression, it produces a very loud bang; even small specimens do. Now, imagine columns in the WTC failing...that could possibly produce a very loud noise. A plane crashing would create a huge impact, and an enormous subsequent fire that burns very hot. This weakens steel members, as well as steel reinforcement inside concrete supports, inducing failure. (continued...)
jansend 5 years ago
The tower begins its collapse on the impact floors. Any planted explosives, detonators and wiring would not have survived the 500 mph plane impact, fireball, raging fires, and heat. Assuming the seismic evidence presented in this video is correct, it is registering something else, not a detonation on the impact floors.
PoetryHound 5 years ago
the 'explosions were the concrete floors comin down on eachother
daniels4ever 5 years ago
So the concrete floors collapsed long before the building collapsed. Where did all the pulverized concrete come from when the shell collapsed if the floors had already collapsed? Notice that the "explosions" occur well before the shell collapses.
lnielsen76 5 years ago 2
lmao.. that scientificly impossible pancake theory has been disproven and fucked in the ass 9 ways from Sunday
begforme4484 5 years ago
Pre collapse sub basement explosions
Pre collapse interior blasts
Pre collapse ground level explosions
Top level collapse initiation
Mid collapse Squibs
Final Time delayed roll
basildonbond 5 years ago
The US government must of thought we didnt pay attention in science class! watch "911 eyewitness hoboken" and see how the "official story" should be dismissed!!
pikeywatch 5 years ago
i am tired of listening to stupid theories supporting the "official story"!! The "official story" defies science! are we really supposed to believe that just because the US government tells us how it happened(even though their version of events are scientifically impossible) then thats how it is? BULLSHIT!
pikeywatch 5 years ago
The puff of smoke may of been cause by the Steel finally buckling cause of the weight which possibly cause fires in the basement of Both towers cause the steel being thrusted out could of triggered electrical expolsions
3fan4eva 5 years ago
Nice theories, none of which were observed.
lnielsen76 5 years ago
The "explosion" in the beginning is obviously things in the tower where the plane hit finally starting to give way. The dust from the street? Can be explained by either the way the vents and elevators acted as a way to jet the debris down much faster than gravity, or something that flew out from the initial plane crash and maybe started a fire below
Gliiidter 5 years ago
By the way, after I saw this piece that aired recently from Jon Stewart's show, I've come to the conclusion that it's one of the most obvious showings of our government lying about the phony war on terror.
My mouth dropped open at the answers given at this press conference regarding the Miami 7 "terror cell".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVjxfxPiOjk&feature=Views& ;page=2&t=t&f=b
mistapat 5 years ago
Debunking 911 Conspiracy Theories
http://www.geocities.com/debunking911
911 Myths
http://www.911myths.com
Loose Change Viewer Guide
http://www.ccdominoes.com/lc/LooseChangeGuide.html
Counter-video of Loose Change
http://www.lolloosechange.co.nr
911 Conspiracy Smasher
http://911conspiracysmasher.blogspot.com
PkofPk 5 years ago
I will always believe that this was a conspiracy and evidence is nowing coming to light to support the theory
saphiregold 5 years ago
A Finnish military expert believes "mini-nukes" were used in the basements of the towers. As an above poster stated, these "smart bombs" would destroy the core columns, and only explosives can cause such extreme heat/melting of the foundation...Google "Finnish Military Expert", his writings are sobering and cut to the chase...
cs579 5 years ago
Ekhm.. over a WEEK after the attacks, when they finally reached the basement, the main foundation steel reinforcements were over a thousand degrees hot. Watch Loose Change 2nd Edition.
WhiteIce89 5 years ago
Okay, say there were bombs in the BASEMENT. Why does the building collapse from the TOP down? Wouldn't an explosion in the basement collapse the lower floors first?
ArizonaKnightWolf 5 years ago
A controlled demolition does not have to be from bottom up (obviously). And explosion in the basement exists only to take out the core columns, the supporting columns. Otherwise, you would just have collapsed floors with the 47 core columns protruding into the air. Not satisfactory if your goal is a complete demolition.
lnielsen76 5 years ago
Basements are blown out in buildings so the collapsing upper floors have a placed to accumulate. It is the objective of controlled demolition to blow basements out in order for the collapsing building to fall on its footprint.
lnielsen76 5 years ago
@lnielsen76 But the base was still intact under all the debris. Some 20+ floors were still fully intact. Do some research before you buy into this conspiracy bullshit.
SexSteakSoda 1 year ago
The jet fuel exploded into a giant fireball outside the building nor would it produce a white dust cloud rising up from the bottom of the building had it indeed traveled down the elevator shaft. Have some respect for those who died that day and stop lying.
lnielsen76 5 years ago
Man, now eventually someone will say someone farted and that caused the WTC1 collapse.
People will believe anything.
Graviteh 5 years ago
about you saying "people will believe anything", well said. people WILL believe anything. and the government and the media takes advantage of this, so they cause 9/11, and LIE about the terrorists doing this. and they make up a fake "official story", and this gave them an excuse to go to the middle east for war and oil. not a war on terrorism, a war for oil. and people are STILL believing that it was iraqis or afghans.
kuzja123 5 years ago
wow...
sayariza 5 years ago
i hope you people realize how bad you people make yourselves look by taking these events for more than face value. look at some of these comments; KNOK DOWN DA TOWERS. you people are some of the most un-educated, narrow-minded, and ignorant people i have ever seen. i mean, its actually mind boggling how retarded the general public is. its comforting to know that people like you guys are never going to hold valuable positions in society.
philritter21 5 years ago
YEAH?? SO WHY CAN'T WE SEE THE EXPLOSION YOUR TALKING ABOUT ??
IDF 6 years ago
If you pay real close attention, you can see a cloud of white smoke come up from the base of the tower. Therefore, if this is an explosion, I would put it in the basement of the tower.
lnielsen76 6 years ago
to see that explosion, u must see the crashes in super-slo-mo. search my videos, i uploaded one with those explosions, but i forgot what i named it, so try n find it. just search my user name. and even if u fail to believe in%2
kuzja123 5 years ago
to see that explosion, u must see the crashes in super-slo-mo. search my videos, i uploaded one with those explosions, but i forgot what i named it, so try n find it. just search my user name. and even if u fail to believe in these explosions, it is quite obviouse that 9/11 was an inside job.
kuzja123 5 years ago
whats so obvious? because Bush wanted an excuse to go to war? lmao seriously though do you really believe this? ok then lets say it was an inside job , where the hell did the planes come from? i mean the thoughts crossed my mind about it being an inside job but its highly unlikely
pogo14022002 5 years ago
are you aware that the gov't could have EASILY got those planes from ANYWHERE!? they could fake anything and ppl would still love them. and apparently, this is true, because look at ppl like you, you seem to love Bush so much. well, if you cant grasp your mind around the thought of the US doing this, then try realizing all the things that theyre hiding, never answering qustions, almost as if theyre hiding something they dont want to share. and then maybe you hould try and research the evidence.
kuzja123 5 years ago
Love Bush? lol i hate him & Blair (our PM) if this was what happened dont you think ppl would be looking into it? of course ppl (like you) are going to want to believe this was an inside job it makes your life that wee bit more exciting! on the other hand you could be right, i wdnt put it past them , i really dont know what to believe and to be honest i really dont care anymore , the worlds mad
pogo14022002 5 years ago
well, i guess that 42% of americans must be insande as you claim ppl like me are. because an online poll said that 42% of americans believe that there is something not right about the official story and that it should be investigated again. i just thought that i should mention that, okay. interesting fact.
kuzja123 5 years ago
yes interesting indeed
pogo14022002 5 years ago
This is the most interesting analysis of the WTC collapse I've ever seen. Couple this with the "power-down" of the South Tower the weekend before and you have a story with teeth.
temens 6 years ago
valid point,but ur forgetting that there were still floors that were intact above the impact zone.the floors that collapsed were the floors that were damaged by the plane.the floors above that were still intact,including the WTCrestaurant at the very top of the building.once the floors at the impact zone collapsed,the weight of the intact floors above could no longer be supported, so the floors above(along with the rest of the top of the building)fell down and crushed everything below.
chlorine 6 years ago
You are ignoring evidence and photos that show people standing in the holes where the planes impacted the buildings. How then can these people stand on floors you allege to have collapsed? It is improbable that a collapsing section of a few floors would be heard across the river in New Jersey (where the video footage comes from.)
lnielsen76 6 years ago
i already said in another video, its not an explosion, its a floor pancaking down onto another floor, it only sounds so loud because the floors weight more than your house. now imagine ur house falling 15 feet down onto another house, i bet it would sound like an explosion too
chlorine 6 years ago
As I rebutted your comment, if the floors were pancaking before the building exploded into pulverized concrete and shattered steel, where did the pulverized concrete come from if not the floors and what caused the ejection of shattered steel and pulverized concrete if not collapsing floors?
lnielsen76 6 years ago
Based on structural engineering of the building, it's impossible for a structure such as this to "pancake". The theory doesn't work.
X3PH1R 6 years ago