the process of abortion is disgusting. they vacuum or scoop the baby out (depending on it's level of development) when they vacuum, limbs are torn off the baby as it crawls in the womb to escape. when a baby is scooped it, it's a complete mess. the baby is ripped apart bit by bit, and when the doctor pulls out the head, the head is usually crushed by the scoop. who would do that to a baby??!!
WOW, trying to inject religion into a REAL problem. Seriously, once you involve religion into a political problem, you are not going to go anywhere. It is the same when a muslism and a christian argue; both have no justification nor a base for their claims and arguments, therefore they hug their delusion and time is wasted.
@boomudead96 How is that childish? Religion is real, and it has a big toll on the subject of abortion. God says abortion is wrong, end of story. You know what's really funny, if you die being an Atheist and I die being a Catholic, and God isn't real, it doesn't really matter for either of us. But if you die as an Atheist and I die as a Catholic, and there is a God, you're going to burn for all eternity. Are you really willing to take that risk? If so, I hope you're 100% sure that you are right.
@LxE100 well as an ahtiest i must allways stay open and understand the possibility that there is a god but all the overwhelming evidence aginst his existens is still more so i choose athism. And no religon has no toll on abortion becouse it says so in the bilble is becouse 3000 years ago it was very dangerus doing an abortion thats also why it became legall in the first place couse poeple did it any way in life threating ways that hurt the inner organs of the mother so it becam legal
@boomudead96 Staying open to the possibility that there is a God, isn't going to get you anywhere when you die. Tell me this overwhelming evidence which proves God isn't real. If you don't believe in God, why look to the Bible to prove your point? The Bible wasn't written 3,000 years ago so clearly you're making information up to help your point, which shows ignorance and idiocy. The last thing you wrote honestly made no sense, so I need an explanation. So far you've written complete nonsense.
@LxE100 okay not 3000 thousend years about 2500 years there better now the eplanition. making abortin legal wont get us anywhere couse people will do it any way with methods that can hurt the mother foor life or give life threating damage to the victim so having legall will only make it safer and provide proffetional help insted of using a long nedle to kill the baby. i hope this was clearer then the formar explation
@boomudead96 It was still less than 2,500 years. Making abortion illegal will get us farther than we have ever been. I hope you realize that everyone breaks laws everyday so the statement you made about people having abortion anyways doesn't matter. Making it legal isn't making anything safer because there is still a child dying everytime. Please explain the overwhelming evidence that there is no God. Give me some quotes, and exactly where you got them.
I hate the concept of abortion with every fibre of my being but I am pro choice. I can't control what women do. I'm just pro life for myself, my family, and my friends.
@orangegreendaysuite That's a shame that you're only willing to stick up for your loved ones, and not the babies that don't even have a say on whether they live or not. That saddens God, deeply.
@LxE100 No matter how much I could scream and shout about how abortion is horrible, women will do what they want to do with their bodies. It's hard to illegalize something that is already legal (here in Canada anyway). People will continue to do it either way, even if it does become illegal. I wish every person was pro-life and didn't get abortions, but it's just unrealistic. Murder is against the law, but people still kill. There will be no utopia. Humans will never be satisfied.
@orangegreendaysuite Of course it is hard to illegalize something like abortion in the United States where evil is at its greatest, but you don't quit when it comes to God. Of course people continue to break laws, but it doesn't mean they won't be held accountable. This would definitely lower the number of abortions if it was illegal. Another thing, is that when you constantly tell people abortion is bad, some people begin to believe it like they should and they become pro-life. Never quit.
so wut if this baby is going to be born will severe heart problems and might not live very long, yet the parents still decide to give it a chance to live. then, that baby has to have frequent hospital visits and procedures and check ups for the rest of its life and it still probably wont live. it's my tax money that pays for that. what if I dont have the money to pay for that child's hospital bills that will only result in it having a hard and short life?
I agree with the pro life people but I honestly think the ones in this video are morons. You can't use religion to debate the lagallity of something. I'm a liberal but I believe abortion is wrong. They are depriving a human being the right to live. Yes it's the woman's body, but if she got pregnant not by choice, chances are, she screwed up and she should have to face the consequences. Rape is the grey area. But regardless, there's life in an unborn fetus. Life that is killed by abortion.
god placed us all on this earth for a reason we abuse our free will and kill unborn children now people say the the child isnt truly human until like 6 weeks of pregnancy if its not human what is it an insect getting an abortion is no different than just getting the baby and killing it when its out of the womb god has a plan for us all you never know what that baby will become when he grows i pray for those who have aborted that they may see what they have done thank you and god bless you all
i get so sad of those religious people...God put me on this earth....nooooo Allah didn’t Buddha didn’t... please for the love of your god leave that stupid argument out of any conversation...pleaseee
Why do fathers in America have to pay child support if it's just the mother's body and choice? Please explain government officials? Apparently a baby, based on the laws is not replicated from male dna. Actually I have faith in women to make the right decisions before conception, the government does not. An agnostic's point of view...
YAY :D that means I can go get a gun and practice shooting at a shopping mall because it's my body my choice it's how I want to live my life and I don't care if anyone gets in the way, that's their choice yes? :D
Women who have abortions when the pregnancy doesn't have a threat to their health or when they weren't raped or when the baby is not disabled then they are damn right selfish, I have no respect for them whatsoever! It's her body her choice I agree but it's no lon
@sexiliciouslyhott says: Women who have abortions when the pregnancy doesn't have a threat to their health or when they weren't raped or when the baby is not disabled then they are damn right selfish
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ But these women who have unwanted, often hated babies ISNT selfish? You need to do some critical thinking!!
@sexiliciouslyhott says: that means I can go get a gun and practice shooting at a shopping mall because it's my body my choice it's how I want to live my life and I don't care if anyone gets in the way, that's their choice yes? :
~~~~~~~~~~ yes, you can do that...what a stupid question, that you obviously dont have the brain power to comprehend!!
@berylcrystal777 Uh, god is not real, i lost faith years ago, and if god is real i'd RATHER go to hell. You're talking to a practicing pagan here, whose best friend(and lovepet) is a satanist. My husband is an atheist. Don't presume for me, slave. 'god' chose nothing. If he did, thanks god, for my mtoher getting raped, for my attempted suicides, my depression, child abuse, having sex at 13 to try to hide the pain of being abused &mypraying to you not helping, cps not helping ect. FUCK god, nazi.
@ryddelwearsahat Interesting, I am not the only one that you call nazi. You're such a poser. It's not like you're the only one who've had a depression, woman. You remember me of a friend I had some time ago. Oh, god... he liked attention. I am not a christian, actually I am an occultist. Probably, you wear as much black as I do. And by reading what you're writing, I know you haven't grown up yet. "Lovepet"...Interesting word. Yes, I had a friend some time ago, who was just like you. Just, nicer.
@LadyDoloris Lol, a lot of pro'life'rs have the unfortunate habits of being brain-nazis. You know,w here they tell other people what they think, what they feel, and then insult them and throw ass-tantrums when they can't get their way. Ever attempted suicide- eat the pills, cut all the way down the river? I should show you the scars from where I cut, and from where I yanked the stitches out. I'm not asking for attention, I'm asking to be left alone. Your kind always butts their muzzles in, -c
-c so domineering and imposing, and completely blind to the reason why 90% of all abortions occur. You know how many of your kind have accused me of choosing to be abused as a child, ranted off about 'niggers gone wild', said my mother deserved to be raped/i deserved to be abused b/c I grew up prochoice? I've even had my newborn threatened- all in the name of 'protecting babies'. You are seriously fucking stupid- you take it all the completely opposite way and then get pissed about it.
@LadyDoloris Hey LD, good to see another occultist against abortion! We should form a group- almost all the prolife groups I seem to come across are Catholic.
@ryddelwearsahat you're blaming God for your self-destruction choices and actions? What is God supposed to do- control your mind and body, and control your life for you? There would be no point in life and human existence if God was playing the role of puppeteer, pulling all the strings for us, making sure nothing bad happened anywhere to anyone. That was Lucifer's proposal to God, to stifle free-will and have direct control over every human being.
@Ju87s Where, exactly.. in the bible dos god/Satan have this discussion? I'd love to read it. Please tell me, hypocrite, what are 'miracles' and 'divine intervention' and why it is so selective? Why save some people, and not others? It's no effort for god, rite? There is no point in god being a loving parent if he is constantly guilty of 'playing favorites' and neglect. How hard is it for god to have a DECENT CPS worker sent to an abusive home, to save a kid from getting beaten up?
@ryddelwearsahat lol, hypocrite? What the shit did I say that was hypocritical? God doesn't save anybody. It's people's own responsibility to save themselves. God doesn't run CPS, so blame the people who do. As for the God/Lucifer conversation, it's a Mormon belief. I'm not Mormon, or even Christian for that matter, but it's a fun story; /watch?v=6W0G6pdgfsw
@Ju87s Lol if the mormons made the devil, then what does he have to do w/ any other slave religion, lol? Either god protects us all, or he picks and chooses and, hey, 'loving parent's do not play favorites. No, god runs the whole world and it is all part of his Plan, thus it is all his fault. If not, then something was definitely lost in translation b/c god sees all, knows all, made all and planned it all out- do the math. Free will and slavery- neither of them make sense- both contradict 'god'.
@ryddelwearsahat Mormons made the devil? Where did I say anything like that? God doesn't run the world. God doesn't enter into our bodies and minds and controls our choices and actions. We are responsible for ourselves and our lives on this planet. You can't blame God for a war that men started. You can't blame God for a rape a man committed. Those were human actions, made by humans who chose to do such things.
@Ju87s I can blame god for playinf favorites and helping some and not tohers- b/c that is apparently his choice. I can blame god for everything in the world, b/c he knew us all before birth, had a Plan for each of us, and b/c following such logic there is no true free will- only acting out parts in a play. Denying this denies god's omnipotence, which denies god himself. So fuck god, lol. I used to believe, lost faith ages ago, am now a practicing pagan in bed with a satanist and an atheist. <3
@ryddelwearsahat I dunno ryddel, I can't relate to those views or train of thought. I wasn't raised Christian or ever held those kind of beliefs. For me, there is no linear plan for the universe. Chaos and random chance are aspects of both the physical and philosophical worlds, so therefore to me, they must also be part of the spiritual world. The future is always subject to chance, and there are multiple pasts, presents, and futures all existing at once, existing at their probabilities.
@Ju87s Okay, well, good for you. I believe differently and was talking about the judeo-stain god that the retards slave under. I misunderstood and ASSumed you were of the same caliber. My apologies, and thank you for clarifying.
The truth is, DNA is the building blocks of life, it is used in court to Identify a person; When man & women agree to copulate, it is intent; it gives human rights to newly created Human Life, in it's early stage of growth, separate with it's own DNA, identifying it as a person, protected by the constitution and parental responsibility. Once a pregnancy occurs you are responsible to protect the person, growing inside you, until born, then decide on adoption. We must face truth, THE REAL TRUTH.
"B/c sex is not something that should be feared, hidden away, and locked in a box for 'later'. That is what led to so much rampant irresponsible sexual activity- reverse psychology failing on it's own, and doing nothing but being made into a mockery by the freedom and availability of information these days." <-- I agree that sex isn't supposed to be locked up, but should be transmuted. "Transmutation literally means to change or to transfer an element or energy from one into another..."
@dlaz0109 ummmm if an argument IS a straw man, what is the problem with calling it so? same for it being a red herring? don't pose as having some supposedly superior approach by making a invalid claim. why is it demeaning to be accurate? when did i say i am the arbiter of what can be offered? that is completely dishonest of you to suggest. you can suggest that people join the KKK too. anything can be said by anyone. that doesn't mean you have the right to go UNCHALLENGED when you do so.
@slyjokerg Let's say a girl has consensual sex, and the condom breaks but she thinnks nothing of it and doesn't get the morning after pill, and she gets pregnant. She's young, no stable job, can't support a baby, and her boyfriend pressures her to abort it. She does. First of all, she has to live with that decision, it's not like abortion is some magic eraser that makes things go away, and if she does have kids later on, she has to live with the fact that they might've had another brother...
@petpluto233 yes, the woman has to live with the decision... duh... that is self-evident. that is for her to be concerned with. it is her business. it isn't your burden or your business, just like any other choice she makes in her life. keep your nose on your face, sparky. you don't have any business telling her who to date or marry, where or if she goes to college, what job she takes, where she lives, whether she uses contraception, whether she has lots of sex, or what color shoes to wear.
@slyjokerg ... or sister, but I guess she'll never know. I suggest you read up on what happens after an abortion, and just what that can do to somebody. And what if she'd gone through with the pregnancy chosen adoption? That means that now somebody who can't have kids, or just wants to adopt to help out somebody else, can. Most adoptive parents are fairly well-off and have been screened through an exstensive application process. And what about all that ost potential? That baby could've grown ...
@petpluto233 i have "read up" on what happens "after an abortion" for 30 years or so. but thanks for the suggestion. and adoption isn't an alternative to abortion. adoption is an alternative to keeping a child and raising it. it has never ended a pregnancy nor prevented birth. women are not obligated to provide other people with children, and there are plenty of children available for adoption already. "lost potential" is a non sequitur as to a woman's right to end her pregnancy.
@slyjokerg ... up to become the doctor that cures cancer, or AIDS, or could've become the president that gets us out of our financial crisis. Even if it didn't do something extraordinary, it doesn't matter because it will never get the chance. And if you think that childbirth is more dangerous, did you know that women who abort have a higher chance of getting breast cancer, ectopic pregnancy, and if the uterus is perforated you can get a bowel or bladder injury...
@petpluto233 ... your next baby will be more likely to die in the first few months, you will be less likely to have a normal delivery in future pregnancies, you will be more likely to bleed in the first three months of future pregnancies, you will need more manual removal of placenta more often and there will be more complications with expelling the baby and its placenta, our next baby will be three to four times as likely to die in the last months of his first year of life, your next baby...
@petpluto233 another absolute lie... "your next 'baby' will be more likely to die..." lie lie lie. you fuckers are pathetic. that is a crock of total dog shit. you are absolutely making shit up. but again, even if ANY of it is true, it is none of YOUR business if the woman ever has sex, wants children, gets pregnant, has children, or anything else, let alone if she has an abortion or not. you are self-righteous zealots that want to control other people's lives. it is creepy and ugly.
@petpluto233 and.... LOLOLOLOLOLOL abortion"facts" . com is a well known, right wing, anti-choice website. what a shock you refer to it. it tells you shit you want to hear.
@petpluto233 and the child could grow up to be hitler or jeffrey dahmer too. such speculation is not only irrelevant, but flawed in its premise. the woman doesn't owe her body to anyone, and doesn't owe the world children. childbirth IS FAR more dangerous... 16x more deadly IN FACT. and NO, abortion does NOT cause breast cancer. that is an absolute LIE. so is the claim that ecptopic is a risk. LIES galore from the anti-choice propaganda machine. the risks are VERY minimal.
@petpluto233 and any risks that exist are for THE WOMAN to bear, NOT YOU. stop acting like your concern is about women. you don't give a shit about that. you think they are dirty whores that fuck everyone in sight, remember? your goal is to attack abortion and demonize it any way you can. your aim is to manipulate people into doing what you want. but.. IT ISN'T YOUR BUSINESS. abortion is legal, and you have no business trying to influence the lives of total strangers or their decisions.
@slyjokerg ... have a low birth weight, your next baby is more likely to be born prematurely with all the dangerous and costly problems that entails, and abortions don't always work, meaning the mother went through the dangers and cost of abortion and remained pregnant. And pro-lifers don't consider women brood mares, because nobody in their right mind tells anybody, male or female, to have unprotected sex. By the way, i only mentioned a handful of things that can go wrong with abortion.
@petpluto233 LOL again... you assume that a woman that wants an abortion had unprotected sex. your assumptions are baseless, and irrelevant. she CAN have as much unprotected sex as much as she likes, amd you will never know if any woman did or didn't in the first place. it is a non-issue in multiple ways. since you want to fixate on such presumptions, you must be totally ok with a woman that uses protection having an abortion. if not, what is the point of bringing up the use of contraception?
@slyjokerg I'm against abortion under any circumstance which includes consensual sex. And yes, she CAN have as much unprotected sex as she wants, but once you get pregnant, that's TWO lives, during pregnancy there are certain decisions that don't just affect the woman, abortion is one of them. Why do you think women who have planned pregnancies are told not to smoke? Why is it that when it's planned, it's a blessing, and when it's unplanned it's a burden?
@petpluto233 it doesn't matter if you consider it "two lives". no person is obligated to keep another being alive with their very physiology. a pregnancy being a burden or a blessing is a contrived, subjective conclusion. it is an opinion. if you want it, it might well be called a blessing. if you don't, a burden. women who have planned pregnancies or decide to continue an unwanted pregnancy are told to not smoke for obvious reasons. smoking is unhealthy, the being lives off of the woman.
@dlaz0109 straw man again. never said that people can't control themselves. there is no need to abstain from sex. it is good for you, and it feels awesome. you can do w/e the hell you want. the issue is what is put upon everyone else. no one has to live as you do, nor is there any need for it to be suggested.
@dlaz0109 "finding a way to justify it" is not a legal argument. it is an agenda. that isn't how our system works. the roe court didn't find a way to do anything. in fact, it was incredibly restrained. the ruling was FAR too constricting and in part had no basis to be so. i would welcome a rearguing of the merits.
@dlaz0109 sigh.... your naivety in the system of gov rears its ugly head again. abortion is a constitutional right, dufus. you can't vote away such rights. since your posting of that here is noted as "1 week old" i will assume that being straightened out on that on other videos has solved the problem, and it being here is now moot. one can only hope.
Open your legs deal with the conquense. So tired of hearing its the womens right well what about the BABY...well what about the poor CHILD that she kills!!!
You say" unwanted prenancy can ruin a young girls life" well dont make the decision to be an adult and have sex and if you do choose to have sex wear freaking protection its called a GLOVE and BIRTH CONTROL and if you do get prego guess what DEAL WITH IT !!!
@ekajeht abortion IS dealing with the results of her actions, idiot. she IS dealing with it. her not doing what YOU want doesn't make it NOT dealing with it.
@cale370 says: Open your legs deal with the conquense. and if you do get prego guess what DEAL WITH IT !!!
~~~~~~~~~~~~ A baby is a consequence to you, and it should be dealt. Its quiote obvious that you dont care about the kids you just want the women punished with a child because it makes YOU happy. You should be ashamed
@Sueezee1 right. time after time, they refer to being forced to have a child as a "consequence". they want to punish women for having sex... for merely liking sex. it is self-righteousness from pure assholes.
This "debate" is unintelligent. Neither side offers substantive arguments, only assertions which they shout past each other.
The Right to Life argument is simple. It is a serious moral wrong to kill innocent human life for reasons of convenience; Elective abortion kills innocent human life for reasons of convenience; Therefore, elective abortion is a serious moral wrong.
Disagree if you will, and yes some of that needs to be fleshed out, but *that* the argument which must be addressed.
@Sueezee1 I never claimed to be "the judge of morals for the world's people." I gave a basic (not full) Right to Life argument so the position would not be misconstrued. To reply "Says who?" and then imply that I am judgmental does not answer the argument but distracts from it. Consider:
Slavery is wrong. According to whose moral code?
Rape is wrong. According to whose moral code?
Child prostitution is wrong. According to whose moral code?
@MrDrichards85 says: I never claimed to be judge of the morals for the peopel
~~~~~~~~~~ Then why in the hell did you say, " It is a serious moral wrong"? you dumbess, that IS speaking for the people of the world. When you say something IS..that means it IS. Next time say that its a serious moral wrong for YOU"!! Do prolifers all go to the same school that teaches NOTHING>
@MrDrichards85 " slavery is wrong according to whose moral code
~~~~~~~~~~ Who in the hell is saying its was wrong??? Millions thought, and still think, it was a fine idea. Do you get it now, stupid? YOU have NO right to say what is wrong & what isnt.
@MrDrichards85 says: hild prostitution is wrong. According to whose moral code?
~~~~~~~~~~~~ maybe to you and me, but its damned sure not wrong to the ones doing is...is it. So, do the ones doing it have to go by our moral code? Hell no...its the damned reason morals cant be legislated.. Not all people have the same ones. I can see you sitting their scratching your head wondering what I mean. Good god!
@Sueezee1 So why do we legislate against slavery, rape, or child prostitution? After all, it is not wrong to those who do it, and who are we to impose our moral code on others?
Perhaps you think asserting and name-calling constitutes an argument, but it doesn't. For that you need premises and a conclusion, but all you have is a conclusion which you just keep asserting. Effective for winning online debates maybe, not so good for proving your claims are true.
@MrDrichards85 says: So why do we legislate against slavery, rape, or child prostitution?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~ What in the hell does that have to do with someone designating what IS right or wrong? Dont try to fast talk me, youre not smart enough. And, those things are illegal because people have rights not to be slaves, raped etc... it is NOT because YOUR stupid ass thinks its wrong.
ugh. It's an UNBORN baby for Christs sake, it has no idea what is happening. And honestly if abortion were made illegal, people would still do illegally, in alleys with untrained doctorswho aren't sure what they are doing, and that can lead to the death of many women...so would you rather have babies who technacally aren't living "die"..or grown women with a possible future die?
@blondehairblogger What is wrong with raising a crippled child, they are humans too.In fact I was diagnosed with a disorder And the doctor cant even see the child when performing an abortion and must rely on feeling alone, which increases the chance of survival. In fact I could name you some abortion survivors. Ana Rosa Rodriguez,Gianna Jessen, Heidi Huffman , and sarah smith. And trust me I know alot more.
@thehumancookie says: And the doctor cant even see the child when performing an abortion and must rely on feeling alone, which increases the chance of survival.
~~~~~~~~~~~ There is NO abortion procedure today that can produce a live infant. Your examples are outdated.
@thehumancookie says:There is something called adoption you know.
~~~~~~~~~ Youre free to have as many unwanted babies you want to have and throw away for someone else to deal with, but dont expect smart women fo follow your childish lead.
Let me ask you pro choicers something. If your mother tried to abort you but failed, and you could go back in time to make sure the abortion was a success. Would you do it?
If there were pro choice then would you views change if ur parent decided to abort you for a legitimate reason. Think about it alot of us wouldn't be here making a difference then
@Andrew598895 says: there is a thing called adoption
~~~~~~ You mean...stop abortion & have a possible ONE MILLION babies thrown away each yr? 20 MILLION in 20 yrs?? Are you frickin kidding me? You may love keeping kids in dog pound like environments, being fed by gov workers while they WAIT for, MAYBE, someone to PICK then to love. Your hate for kids is pitiful!
sigh... GOD HAS NO PART IN LAW. so sick of hearing people saying that things can or should be imposed in the law because of their baseless claims that god thinks x y or z. that is mindless drivel. and it isn't just about "killing a being". it is about the woman's right to not want to go thru a pregnancy. her body is affected in countless ways, AND giving birth is FAR more deadly to women than having an abortion. she is not obligated to use her body to keep someone else alive.
@slyjokerg Everyone knows that unles you have a hysterectomy or other infertility issues, there is always the risk of pregnancy, therefore beore someone decides to have sex, they should prepare themselves for that possibility, and if they aren't prepared, don't have sex!
@petpluto233 "don't have sex" is not a solution to already being pregnant. it has 0 use. and beyond that, women don't have to have children just because they want to experience the pleasures of sex. they enter into no contract.
@slyjokerg I know that "don't have sex" isn't a solution when the woman is already pregnant, but the only concrete, 100% birth control is abstinence. If you feel responsible enough to have sex, then be responsible when another life gets brought into it. I think that in the event of unplanned pregnancy, adoption is the best option if the mother isn't in a good condition to raise the child.
@petpluto233 abstinence is a ridiculous idea to promote. people will fuck and fuck and fuck, regardless. sex is VERY normal and VERY natural, and is VERY good for you physically and emotionally. thorough sex education and readily available birth control should be pushed MASSIVELY. adoption is not an alternative to abortion. adoption is an alternative to keeping a child and raising it. adoption does not end a pregnancy or stop birth. abortion does. they are separate choices.
@slyjokerg So you don't agree that if people are fucking fucking and fucking, and oh! Surprise! You're pregnant! That's irresponsible? I certainly do. If you don't want to get pregnant, don't fuck so goddamn much, and maybe, you know, use a condom, and take the morning-after pill when it breaks? For every child that's aborted, that's somebody who just missed an oppurtunity to be a parent.
@petpluto233 your very premise is faulty and frankly stupid. you can get pregnant the first time you have sex. you are another person that assumes anyone that wants an abortion is some "dirty slut that fucks everyone in town." it doesn't matter if she is and does, but it goes to show that you people wish to vilify and attack abortion rights with falsely assumed characterizations. there is nothing wrong with sex. and why do you think the morning after pill is available like tic tacs? cont..
@petpluto233 cont... and as far as "missing an opportunity to be a parent" is quite obviously an intentional decision, dumbass. the woman quite apparently doesn't wish to be a parent, or at least not the parent of an additional child. they don't have to do what you would like them to do. they don't have to want a child or another child. they don't have to feel and think as you do. they don't have to have your opinions or views. self-righteous clod.
@Andrew598895 Hey, dumbfuck I love the way you refer to mentally ill persons: "screwed up child" is that to show compasion for someone that had the misfortune of being born mentally ill. That treatment your parents took to concieved you messed up your shitty brains. Idiot.
@M0ntsR3v A fetus or embryo is not a person, and its presence has a very real impact on the woman who it is growing within. The rights of the woman in this case trump the rights of the "maybe, someday, could be a person" that is a fetus.
Death penalty... Jesus, I hope you're kidding. Justice is imperfect, and death penalty is another word for revenge killing. It is unethical and immoral to put people to death when you can never really be sure they're guilty, and you gain nothing by killing them.
@lna1102 So, what.It's God's LOVE that brought us the Gift of Life.So why wouldn't individuals who are PRO LIFE, express their LOVE for JESUS.I'm proud of my faith.
Instead of critizing,maybe look into what your critizing.
@lna1102 No woman smart enough to see through religion would be stupid enough to actively work toward limiting her own rights, lessening her control over her body. It takes women who observe blind adherence to their particular, very literally man-made religion, to actually want themselves to once again have unequal rights. Before you know it they'll be campaigning to end women's suffrage, or their ability to get a "man's job", or who knows what else. Republic of Gilead, here they come...
40 days for Life maay be in your neck of the woods.Check out their web site to find a location in your area.Multiple SAVED unborn Lives.Abortion wounds the women physically,mentally, and spiritually.Stop dehumanizing the unborn.It is a potential life that can maybe do great things for this world.We must encourage Life, or we will lose God's greatest gift!
@Lexiathan No, presumption.It always been about "FAITH".How can you say there isn't a God.How do you prove that God doesn't exist.Thankfully, I've come to know the Lord more,and more thru the Bible.Plus a very HOLY priest gave us classes on prayer,and Holy Spirit.Through this holy priest, my faith has deepened consideraly.I pray that somehow in your Life that you come to know God's LOVE!
@122651Lil You're wrong: I have had an abortion and it didn't wound me physically, spiritually or mentally. It has been about 10 or so years since I had the abortion and I still cringe when I think 'imagine if I didn't have an abortion. It wasn't a life but I was alive.
@lynlann What other women who've had an AB experienced.Check out Silent No More,or the info.on Priest fot Life.
Because you've had an AB,research has shown strong connection with Breast Cancer(BC),check Breast Cancer Prevention Institute.The info is Peer Reviewed,with strong documentation.This doesn't mean you will definitely get BC,but shown to inc.your risk.Sometimes exp.a response to the lose of their child 20yrs.later.Often it's about grieving the lose of the baby from AB.
I like that one statement from the girl. "Control your sperm". LOL. It takes two to make a baby. Blaming it on the guy is a cop out. Women can say 'no' much easier than guys can. I would suggest it is irresponsible to lead a guy on if you don't intend to have sex.
What are the stats? A guy thinks about having sex like every 5 secs or something and they will nearly say anything to have it. Come on girls, you need to take some responsibility too.
Why does everyone use the excuse not enough sex ed? There is plenty in schools so don't close your ears when they are talking about what you need to know. It is simple don't wanna get pregnant use birth control, female/male condom, spermicide, abstinence. (I do agree with abortion though if it is from a rape)
@PALOMITA694 then why was the young girl out there having sex knowing that it leads to pregnancy i mean seriously are you gonna tell me that she didn't know that it could lead to being pregnant. its as simple as this :
IF YOU DON'T WANT TO GET PREGNANT, DON'T HAVE SEX.
IF YOU DO HAVE SEX, DEAL WITH THE CONSEQUENCES OF YOUR ACTIONS.
THE BABY IS NOT TO BLAME AND SHOULDN'T HAVE TO PAY THE CONSEQUENCES FOR THE MOTHER'S MISTAKE.
@iloveubaby787 Why do people drink and drive if they know they can have an accident, why do people smoke if they know they can get cancer, why do people swim if they know they can get drown, why do people eat unhealthy if they know they can become diabetic, why do people have sex if they know they can get pregnant or get AIDS, why do people do a lot of things that will have a negative outcome? Your guess is as good as mine, there is no correct answer to these questions I guess life just happens.
@iloveubaby787 says dont want to get pregnant dont have sex
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WHAT??? Billions of people have sex everday w/ no negative results, and you want all sex to stop.."just in case"? You dont care about unwanted pregnancies, you just have a fear of human sexuality!! There IS help for that!
~~~~~~~~ Youre free to have as many babies as you like to throw away for someone else to deal with, but dont expect smart women to follow your childish lead.
@PALOMITA694 1 per cent of a fail rate, get over it "failing". if you are smart enough and adult enough to have sex you wont have a unwanted pregancy.
@MegaAngermanagement people should not smoke, people should not drink alcohol, people should not eat unhealthy, poeple should not over eat, people should not have unprotected sex but they do. I think life just happens.
@PALOMITA694 so if I believe someone is going to ruin my life, for example if someone was going to accuse me in cheating in a important exam, i have the right to take that persons life? if someone were to ruin your life do you must still have the right to kill them. also this child might not ruin their life, could make it better in some way. when arguing against pro-lifers, who believe the child is alive at conception unless you can give a reason to kill a defenceless person your point fails
the process of abortion is disgusting. they vacuum or scoop the baby out (depending on it's level of development) when they vacuum, limbs are torn off the baby as it crawls in the womb to escape. when a baby is scooped it, it's a complete mess. the baby is ripped apart bit by bit, and when the doctor pulls out the head, the head is usually crushed by the scoop. who would do that to a baby??!!
ridiguluz 1 month ago
@ridiguluz thats one type of abortion. way to watch the video with the christian doctor video. sometimes all you need is a pill
kefkapalazzo1 1 month ago
WOW, trying to inject religion into a REAL problem. Seriously, once you involve religion into a political problem, you are not going to go anywhere. It is the same when a muslism and a christian argue; both have no justification nor a base for their claims and arguments, therefore they hug their delusion and time is wasted.
alo754 1 month ago
My God we're all so stupid
Crushingsteps 2 months ago
what the fuck does privacy really have to do with much? mexican...
sowhatbitch103 3 months ago
fuck the Bible, make your own mind up!
MrRyanSams 4 months ago 2
@MrRyanSams has nothing to do with the bible. it's never right to kill a baby
lostbot101 4 months ago
@lostbot101 that's my point - the people in this video are quoting from The Bible left, right and centre, I hate abortion too
MrRyanSams 4 months ago
@MrRyanSams The Bible is The Pro-Choicers greatest weapon, make the other-side seem like Bible-Nuts.
TheOfficialiKON 2 months ago
@TheOfficialiKON only if you generalise massively - I'm pro life, and I am a complete Atheist.
MrRyanSams 2 months ago
i cant understand that adults must be so childish and put god ind everythingto make it right
boomudead96 6 months ago
@boomudead96 How is that childish? Religion is real, and it has a big toll on the subject of abortion. God says abortion is wrong, end of story. You know what's really funny, if you die being an Atheist and I die being a Catholic, and God isn't real, it doesn't really matter for either of us. But if you die as an Atheist and I die as a Catholic, and there is a God, you're going to burn for all eternity. Are you really willing to take that risk? If so, I hope you're 100% sure that you are right.
LxE100 5 months ago
@LxE100 well as an ahtiest i must allways stay open and understand the possibility that there is a god but all the overwhelming evidence aginst his existens is still more so i choose athism. And no religon has no toll on abortion becouse it says so in the bilble is becouse 3000 years ago it was very dangerus doing an abortion thats also why it became legall in the first place couse poeple did it any way in life threating ways that hurt the inner organs of the mother so it becam legal
boomudead96 4 months ago
@boomudead96 Staying open to the possibility that there is a God, isn't going to get you anywhere when you die. Tell me this overwhelming evidence which proves God isn't real. If you don't believe in God, why look to the Bible to prove your point? The Bible wasn't written 3,000 years ago so clearly you're making information up to help your point, which shows ignorance and idiocy. The last thing you wrote honestly made no sense, so I need an explanation. So far you've written complete nonsense.
LxE100 4 months ago
@LxE100 okay not 3000 thousend years about 2500 years there better now the eplanition. making abortin legal wont get us anywhere couse people will do it any way with methods that can hurt the mother foor life or give life threating damage to the victim so having legall will only make it safer and provide proffetional help insted of using a long nedle to kill the baby. i hope this was clearer then the formar explation
boomudead96 4 months ago
@boomudead96 It was still less than 2,500 years. Making abortion illegal will get us farther than we have ever been. I hope you realize that everyone breaks laws everyday so the statement you made about people having abortion anyways doesn't matter. Making it legal isn't making anything safer because there is still a child dying everytime. Please explain the overwhelming evidence that there is no God. Give me some quotes, and exactly where you got them.
LxE100 4 months ago
@LxE100 can i make vido for you in the near future insted so that i am not lilimited to 500 letters
boomudead96 4 months ago
@boomudead96 Feel free to make a video. No one is holding you back.
LxE100 4 months ago
I hate the concept of abortion with every fibre of my being but I am pro choice. I can't control what women do. I'm just pro life for myself, my family, and my friends.
orangegreendaysuite 6 months ago
@orangegreendaysuite That's a shame that you're only willing to stick up for your loved ones, and not the babies that don't even have a say on whether they live or not. That saddens God, deeply.
LxE100 5 months ago
@LxE100 No matter how much I could scream and shout about how abortion is horrible, women will do what they want to do with their bodies. It's hard to illegalize something that is already legal (here in Canada anyway). People will continue to do it either way, even if it does become illegal. I wish every person was pro-life and didn't get abortions, but it's just unrealistic. Murder is against the law, but people still kill. There will be no utopia. Humans will never be satisfied.
orangegreendaysuite 4 months ago
@orangegreendaysuite Of course it is hard to illegalize something like abortion in the United States where evil is at its greatest, but you don't quit when it comes to God. Of course people continue to break laws, but it doesn't mean they won't be held accountable. This would definitely lower the number of abortions if it was illegal. Another thing, is that when you constantly tell people abortion is bad, some people begin to believe it like they should and they become pro-life. Never quit.
LxE100 4 months ago
so wut if this baby is going to be born will severe heart problems and might not live very long, yet the parents still decide to give it a chance to live. then, that baby has to have frequent hospital visits and procedures and check ups for the rest of its life and it still probably wont live. it's my tax money that pays for that. what if I dont have the money to pay for that child's hospital bills that will only result in it having a hard and short life?
psycheer330 6 months ago
pleaase, throw the irrational belief of god to the trashcan , then debate and use critical thinking to proove a point.
alo754 6 months ago
I agree with the pro life people but I honestly think the ones in this video are morons. You can't use religion to debate the lagallity of something. I'm a liberal but I believe abortion is wrong. They are depriving a human being the right to live. Yes it's the woman's body, but if she got pregnant not by choice, chances are, she screwed up and she should have to face the consequences. Rape is the grey area. But regardless, there's life in an unborn fetus. Life that is killed by abortion.
EPICsliceOFcake 6 months ago
god placed us all on this earth for a reason we abuse our free will and kill unborn children now people say the the child isnt truly human until like 6 weeks of pregnancy if its not human what is it an insect getting an abortion is no different than just getting the baby and killing it when its out of the womb god has a plan for us all you never know what that baby will become when he grows i pray for those who have aborted that they may see what they have done thank you and god bless you all
Ellegion10 7 months ago
@Ellegion10 says: od placed us all on this earth for a reason
~~~~~~~~~~~~ And he DIDNT place some on earth for a reason............
Sueezee1 7 months ago
@Ellegion10 says: god has a plan for us all
~~~~~~~~~~~~ So, you agree that abortion is in the "plan", or does that blow your theory? You need to use the brain God gave you.
Sueezee1 7 months ago
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Ellegion10 7 months ago
lol religion is the main reason why it PH is so fuck up
AsianMeatBunBoy 8 months ago
worst music ever
kefkapalazzo1 8 months ago
If God knows the child before it enters the mothers womb, then why do some women suffer miscarriages?
PurpleShades1 8 months ago
i get so sad of those religious people...God put me on this earth....nooooo Allah didn’t Buddha didn’t... please for the love of your god leave that stupid argument out of any conversation...pleaseee
Ben1987X 8 months ago 2
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Ellegion10 7 months ago
@Ellegion10 Ow I am a athiest...go youtube dinosaurs..something that excist but isnt in the bible...ow well god makes mistakes I guesss
Ben1987X 7 months ago
Why do fathers in America have to pay child support if it's just the mother's body and choice? Please explain government officials? Apparently a baby, based on the laws is not replicated from male dna. Actually I have faith in women to make the right decisions before conception, the government does not. An agnostic's point of view...
eternalperchedbird 9 months ago 2
"her body her choice"
YAY :D that means I can go get a gun and practice shooting at a shopping mall because it's my body my choice it's how I want to live my life and I don't care if anyone gets in the way, that's their choice yes? :D
Women who have abortions when the pregnancy doesn't have a threat to their health or when they weren't raped or when the baby is not disabled then they are damn right selfish, I have no respect for them whatsoever! It's her body her choice I agree but it's no lon
sexiliciouslyhott 9 months ago
@sexiliciouslyhott says: Women who have abortions when the pregnancy doesn't have a threat to their health or when they weren't raped or when the baby is not disabled then they are damn right selfish
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ But these women who have unwanted, often hated babies ISNT selfish? You need to do some critical thinking!!
Sueezee1 9 months ago
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@sexiliciouslyhott says: that means I can go get a gun and practice shooting at a shopping mall because it's my body my choice it's how I want to live my life and I don't care if anyone gets in the way, that's their choice yes? :
~~~~~~~~~~ yes, you can do that...what a stupid question, that you obviously dont have the brain power to comprehend!!
Sueezee1 7 months ago
@berylcrystal777 Uh, god is not real, i lost faith years ago, and if god is real i'd RATHER go to hell. You're talking to a practicing pagan here, whose best friend(and lovepet) is a satanist. My husband is an atheist. Don't presume for me, slave. 'god' chose nothing. If he did, thanks god, for my mtoher getting raped, for my attempted suicides, my depression, child abuse, having sex at 13 to try to hide the pain of being abused &mypraying to you not helping, cps not helping ect. FUCK god, nazi.
ryddelwearsahat 10 months ago
@ryddelwearsahat Interesting, I am not the only one that you call nazi. You're such a poser. It's not like you're the only one who've had a depression, woman. You remember me of a friend I had some time ago. Oh, god... he liked attention. I am not a christian, actually I am an occultist. Probably, you wear as much black as I do. And by reading what you're writing, I know you haven't grown up yet. "Lovepet"...Interesting word. Yes, I had a friend some time ago, who was just like you. Just, nicer.
LadyDoloris 10 months ago
@LadyDoloris Lol, a lot of pro'life'rs have the unfortunate habits of being brain-nazis. You know,w here they tell other people what they think, what they feel, and then insult them and throw ass-tantrums when they can't get their way. Ever attempted suicide- eat the pills, cut all the way down the river? I should show you the scars from where I cut, and from where I yanked the stitches out. I'm not asking for attention, I'm asking to be left alone. Your kind always butts their muzzles in, -c
ryddelwearsahat 10 months ago
-c so domineering and imposing, and completely blind to the reason why 90% of all abortions occur. You know how many of your kind have accused me of choosing to be abused as a child, ranted off about 'niggers gone wild', said my mother deserved to be raped/i deserved to be abused b/c I grew up prochoice? I've even had my newborn threatened- all in the name of 'protecting babies'. You are seriously fucking stupid- you take it all the completely opposite way and then get pissed about it.
ryddelwearsahat 10 months ago
@LadyDoloris Hey LD, good to see another occultist against abortion! We should form a group- almost all the prolife groups I seem to come across are Catholic.
Ju87s 10 months ago
@Ju87s That's a wonderful idea! :) It brings joy to my heart knowing that there are more people out there caring about these children!
LadyDoloris 10 months ago
@ryddelwearsahat you're blaming God for your self-destruction choices and actions? What is God supposed to do- control your mind and body, and control your life for you? There would be no point in life and human existence if God was playing the role of puppeteer, pulling all the strings for us, making sure nothing bad happened anywhere to anyone. That was Lucifer's proposal to God, to stifle free-will and have direct control over every human being.
Ju87s 10 months ago
@Ju87s Where, exactly.. in the bible dos god/Satan have this discussion? I'd love to read it. Please tell me, hypocrite, what are 'miracles' and 'divine intervention' and why it is so selective? Why save some people, and not others? It's no effort for god, rite? There is no point in god being a loving parent if he is constantly guilty of 'playing favorites' and neglect. How hard is it for god to have a DECENT CPS worker sent to an abusive home, to save a kid from getting beaten up?
ryddelwearsahat 10 months ago
@ryddelwearsahat lol, hypocrite? What the shit did I say that was hypocritical? God doesn't save anybody. It's people's own responsibility to save themselves. God doesn't run CPS, so blame the people who do. As for the God/Lucifer conversation, it's a Mormon belief. I'm not Mormon, or even Christian for that matter, but it's a fun story; /watch?v=6W0G6pdgfsw
watch it and love it
Ju87s 10 months ago
@Ju87s Lol if the mormons made the devil, then what does he have to do w/ any other slave religion, lol? Either god protects us all, or he picks and chooses and, hey, 'loving parent's do not play favorites. No, god runs the whole world and it is all part of his Plan, thus it is all his fault. If not, then something was definitely lost in translation b/c god sees all, knows all, made all and planned it all out- do the math. Free will and slavery- neither of them make sense- both contradict 'god'.
ryddelwearsahat 10 months ago
@ryddelwearsahat Mormons made the devil? Where did I say anything like that? God doesn't run the world. God doesn't enter into our bodies and minds and controls our choices and actions. We are responsible for ourselves and our lives on this planet. You can't blame God for a war that men started. You can't blame God for a rape a man committed. Those were human actions, made by humans who chose to do such things.
Ju87s 10 months ago
@Ju87s I can blame god for playinf favorites and helping some and not tohers- b/c that is apparently his choice. I can blame god for everything in the world, b/c he knew us all before birth, had a Plan for each of us, and b/c following such logic there is no true free will- only acting out parts in a play. Denying this denies god's omnipotence, which denies god himself. So fuck god, lol. I used to believe, lost faith ages ago, am now a practicing pagan in bed with a satanist and an atheist. <3
ryddelwearsahat 10 months ago
@ryddelwearsahat I dunno ryddel, I can't relate to those views or train of thought. I wasn't raised Christian or ever held those kind of beliefs. For me, there is no linear plan for the universe. Chaos and random chance are aspects of both the physical and philosophical worlds, so therefore to me, they must also be part of the spiritual world. The future is always subject to chance, and there are multiple pasts, presents, and futures all existing at once, existing at their probabilities.
Ju87s 10 months ago
@Ju87s Okay, well, good for you. I believe differently and was talking about the judeo-stain god that the retards slave under. I misunderstood and ASSumed you were of the same caliber. My apologies, and thank you for clarifying.
ryddelwearsahat 10 months ago
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@Mr420Lifer Consent to sex is not consent to parenthood.. I fuck for pleasure.
ryddelwearsahat 10 months ago
@berylcrystal777 Rape-product, pro-choice, my mother wanted to abort me and wa forced not to. i;d RATHER have been aborted. Fuck you too, nazi. =)
ryddelwearsahat 10 months ago
The truth is, DNA is the building blocks of life, it is used in court to Identify a person; When man & women agree to copulate, it is intent; it gives human rights to newly created Human Life, in it's early stage of growth, separate with it's own DNA, identifying it as a person, protected by the constitution and parental responsibility. Once a pregnancy occurs you are responsible to protect the person, growing inside you, until born, then decide on adoption. We must face truth, THE REAL TRUTH.
SeekTruthinLight 11 months ago
@SeekTruthinLight Consent to sex is not intent to reproduce, it is consent to sex. Don't presume to think for others- it makes you an arrogant nazi.
ryddelwearsahat 10 months ago
god stirs the boat but you have to do the rowing mean your choice god saports pr choice good video
urantiruslan 11 months ago
A woman's right to choose...
Indeed.
The right to choose to kill her unborn child or let it live.
Let's at least predicate the debate on reality.
KnightOwl2006 11 months ago
"B/c sex is not something that should be feared, hidden away, and locked in a box for 'later'. That is what led to so much rampant irresponsible sexual activity- reverse psychology failing on it's own, and doing nothing but being made into a mockery by the freedom and availability of information these days." <-- I agree that sex isn't supposed to be locked up, but should be transmuted. "Transmutation literally means to change or to transfer an element or energy from one into another..."
kingkongcuong 11 months ago
@dlaz0109 yes, i am very much against mandatory seat belt laws for adults. why do you ask?
slyjokerg 1 year ago
@dlaz0109 ummmm if an argument IS a straw man, what is the problem with calling it so? same for it being a red herring? don't pose as having some supposedly superior approach by making a invalid claim. why is it demeaning to be accurate? when did i say i am the arbiter of what can be offered? that is completely dishonest of you to suggest. you can suggest that people join the KKK too. anything can be said by anyone. that doesn't mean you have the right to go UNCHALLENGED when you do so.
slyjokerg 1 year ago
@slyjokerg Let's say a girl has consensual sex, and the condom breaks but she thinnks nothing of it and doesn't get the morning after pill, and she gets pregnant. She's young, no stable job, can't support a baby, and her boyfriend pressures her to abort it. She does. First of all, she has to live with that decision, it's not like abortion is some magic eraser that makes things go away, and if she does have kids later on, she has to live with the fact that they might've had another brother...
petpluto233 1 year ago
@petpluto233 yes, the woman has to live with the decision... duh... that is self-evident. that is for her to be concerned with. it is her business. it isn't your burden or your business, just like any other choice she makes in her life. keep your nose on your face, sparky. you don't have any business telling her who to date or marry, where or if she goes to college, what job she takes, where she lives, whether she uses contraception, whether she has lots of sex, or what color shoes to wear.
slyjokerg 1 year ago
@slyjokerg ... or sister, but I guess she'll never know. I suggest you read up on what happens after an abortion, and just what that can do to somebody. And what if she'd gone through with the pregnancy chosen adoption? That means that now somebody who can't have kids, or just wants to adopt to help out somebody else, can. Most adoptive parents are fairly well-off and have been screened through an exstensive application process. And what about all that ost potential? That baby could've grown ...
petpluto233 1 year ago
@petpluto233 i have "read up" on what happens "after an abortion" for 30 years or so. but thanks for the suggestion. and adoption isn't an alternative to abortion. adoption is an alternative to keeping a child and raising it. it has never ended a pregnancy nor prevented birth. women are not obligated to provide other people with children, and there are plenty of children available for adoption already. "lost potential" is a non sequitur as to a woman's right to end her pregnancy.
slyjokerg 1 year ago
@slyjokerg ... up to become the doctor that cures cancer, or AIDS, or could've become the president that gets us out of our financial crisis. Even if it didn't do something extraordinary, it doesn't matter because it will never get the chance. And if you think that childbirth is more dangerous, did you know that women who abort have a higher chance of getting breast cancer, ectopic pregnancy, and if the uterus is perforated you can get a bowel or bladder injury...
petpluto233 1 year ago
@petpluto233 ... your next baby will be more likely to die in the first few months, you will be less likely to have a normal delivery in future pregnancies, you will be more likely to bleed in the first three months of future pregnancies, you will need more manual removal of placenta more often and there will be more complications with expelling the baby and its placenta, our next baby will be three to four times as likely to die in the last months of his first year of life, your next baby...
petpluto233 1 year ago
@petpluto233 another absolute lie... "your next 'baby' will be more likely to die..." lie lie lie. you fuckers are pathetic. that is a crock of total dog shit. you are absolutely making shit up. but again, even if ANY of it is true, it is none of YOUR business if the woman ever has sex, wants children, gets pregnant, has children, or anything else, let alone if she has an abortion or not. you are self-righteous zealots that want to control other people's lives. it is creepy and ugly.
slyjokerg 1 year ago
@slyjokerg I got my facts from the page, "Effects of Abortion" on abortionfacts . com
petpluto233 1 year ago
@petpluto233 and.... LOLOLOLOLOLOL abortion"facts" . com is a well known, right wing, anti-choice website. what a shock you refer to it. it tells you shit you want to hear.
slyjokerg 1 year ago
@petpluto233 and the child could grow up to be hitler or jeffrey dahmer too. such speculation is not only irrelevant, but flawed in its premise. the woman doesn't owe her body to anyone, and doesn't owe the world children. childbirth IS FAR more dangerous... 16x more deadly IN FACT. and NO, abortion does NOT cause breast cancer. that is an absolute LIE. so is the claim that ecptopic is a risk. LIES galore from the anti-choice propaganda machine. the risks are VERY minimal.
slyjokerg 1 year ago
@petpluto233 and any risks that exist are for THE WOMAN to bear, NOT YOU. stop acting like your concern is about women. you don't give a shit about that. you think they are dirty whores that fuck everyone in sight, remember? your goal is to attack abortion and demonize it any way you can. your aim is to manipulate people into doing what you want. but.. IT ISN'T YOUR BUSINESS. abortion is legal, and you have no business trying to influence the lives of total strangers or their decisions.
slyjokerg 1 year ago
@slyjokerg ... have a low birth weight, your next baby is more likely to be born prematurely with all the dangerous and costly problems that entails, and abortions don't always work, meaning the mother went through the dangers and cost of abortion and remained pregnant. And pro-lifers don't consider women brood mares, because nobody in their right mind tells anybody, male or female, to have unprotected sex. By the way, i only mentioned a handful of things that can go wrong with abortion.
petpluto233 1 year ago
@petpluto233 LOL again... you assume that a woman that wants an abortion had unprotected sex. your assumptions are baseless, and irrelevant. she CAN have as much unprotected sex as much as she likes, amd you will never know if any woman did or didn't in the first place. it is a non-issue in multiple ways. since you want to fixate on such presumptions, you must be totally ok with a woman that uses protection having an abortion. if not, what is the point of bringing up the use of contraception?
slyjokerg 1 year ago
@slyjokerg I'm against abortion under any circumstance which includes consensual sex. And yes, she CAN have as much unprotected sex as she wants, but once you get pregnant, that's TWO lives, during pregnancy there are certain decisions that don't just affect the woman, abortion is one of them. Why do you think women who have planned pregnancies are told not to smoke? Why is it that when it's planned, it's a blessing, and when it's unplanned it's a burden?
petpluto233 1 year ago
@petpluto233 it doesn't matter if you consider it "two lives". no person is obligated to keep another being alive with their very physiology. a pregnancy being a burden or a blessing is a contrived, subjective conclusion. it is an opinion. if you want it, it might well be called a blessing. if you don't, a burden. women who have planned pregnancies or decide to continue an unwanted pregnancy are told to not smoke for obvious reasons. smoking is unhealthy, the being lives off of the woman.
slyjokerg 1 year ago
@dlaz0109 straw man again. never said that people can't control themselves. there is no need to abstain from sex. it is good for you, and it feels awesome. you can do w/e the hell you want. the issue is what is put upon everyone else. no one has to live as you do, nor is there any need for it to be suggested.
slyjokerg 1 year ago
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@dlaz0109 says:they will find a way to justify it constiutionally,
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Youre damned right...this IS a pro choice counrty.
Sueezee1 1 year ago
@dlaz0109 "finding a way to justify it" is not a legal argument. it is an agenda. that isn't how our system works. the roe court didn't find a way to do anything. in fact, it was incredibly restrained. the ruling was FAR too constricting and in part had no basis to be so. i would welcome a rearguing of the merits.
slyjokerg 1 year ago 2
@dlaz0109 sigh.... your naivety in the system of gov rears its ugly head again. abortion is a constitutional right, dufus. you can't vote away such rights. since your posting of that here is noted as "1 week old" i will assume that being straightened out on that on other videos has solved the problem, and it being here is now moot. one can only hope.
slyjokerg 1 year ago
again...why is the BIBLE even a valid choice for this argument? And why are men involved in this? hahaha, ohhh boy...
polix 1 year ago
Open your legs deal with the conquense. So tired of hearing its the womens right well what about the BABY...well what about the poor CHILD that she kills!!!
You say" unwanted prenancy can ruin a young girls life" well dont make the decision to be an adult and have sex and if you do choose to have sex wear freaking protection its called a GLOVE and BIRTH CONTROL and if you do get prego guess what DEAL WITH IT !!!
cale370 1 year ago
@cale370 WHAT!!!!!
You expect people to have to deal with the results of their own actions, instead of just murdering the problem ?
Let me guess,,,,,, you're - NOT - a liberal!
ekajeht 1 year ago
@ekajeht abortion IS dealing with the results of her actions, idiot. she IS dealing with it. her not doing what YOU want doesn't make it NOT dealing with it.
slyjokerg 1 year ago 2
@cale370 says: Open your legs deal with the conquense. and if you do get prego guess what DEAL WITH IT !!!
~~~~~~~~~~~~ A baby is a consequence to you, and it should be dealt. Its quiote obvious that you dont care about the kids you just want the women punished with a child because it makes YOU happy. You should be ashamed
Sueezee1 1 year ago
@Sueezee1 right. time after time, they refer to being forced to have a child as a "consequence". they want to punish women for having sex... for merely liking sex. it is self-righteousness from pure assholes.
slyjokerg 1 year ago 2
@slyjokerg says:it is self-righteousness from pure assholes.
~~~~~~~~~~ Ya, I know... I always love seeing your intelligent messages in here!
Sueezee1 1 year ago 3
@Sueezee1 always good to see you too.
slyjokerg 1 year ago 14
@cale370 i like that but little girls shouldn't have sex until after marriage.
kingkongcuong 11 months ago
This "debate" is unintelligent. Neither side offers substantive arguments, only assertions which they shout past each other.
The Right to Life argument is simple. It is a serious moral wrong to kill innocent human life for reasons of convenience; Elective abortion kills innocent human life for reasons of convenience; Therefore, elective abortion is a serious moral wrong.
Disagree if you will, and yes some of that needs to be fleshed out, but *that* the argument which must be addressed.
MrDrichards85 1 year ago
@MrDrichards85 says: It is a serious moral wrong to kill innocent human life for reasons of convenience
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According to whose moral code? Yours? Sorry sweetie, your not the judge of morals for the worlds people.
Sueezee1 1 year ago
@Sueezee1 I never claimed to be "the judge of morals for the world's people." I gave a basic (not full) Right to Life argument so the position would not be misconstrued. To reply "Says who?" and then imply that I am judgmental does not answer the argument but distracts from it. Consider:
Slavery is wrong. According to whose moral code?
Rape is wrong. According to whose moral code?
Child prostitution is wrong. According to whose moral code?
You have an argument or just emotional rhetoric?
MrDrichards85 1 year ago
@MrDrichards85 says: I never claimed to be judge of the morals for the peopel
~~~~~~~~~~ Then why in the hell did you say, " It is a serious moral wrong"? you dumbess, that IS speaking for the people of the world. When you say something IS..that means it IS. Next time say that its a serious moral wrong for YOU"!! Do prolifers all go to the same school that teaches NOTHING>
Sueezee1 1 year ago
@MrDrichards85 " slavery is wrong according to whose moral code
~~~~~~~~~~ Who in the hell is saying its was wrong??? Millions thought, and still think, it was a fine idea. Do you get it now, stupid? YOU have NO right to say what is wrong & what isnt.
Sueezee1 1 year ago
@MrDrichards85 says rape is wrong according to whose moral code
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To the god dmaned ones who BELIEVE it to be wrong...but, again dumbass...something think its right. Can you actually NOT comprehend this? Geeeez!
Sueezee1 1 year ago
@MrDrichards85 says you have an argument
~~~~~~~~~ I ALWAYS have an argument, and I always win, as I just did ...3 times. Your moral decisions are ONLY your own...keep out of others'.
Sueezee1 1 year ago
@MrDrichards85 says: hild prostitution is wrong. According to whose moral code?
~~~~~~~~~~~~ maybe to you and me, but its damned sure not wrong to the ones doing is...is it. So, do the ones doing it have to go by our moral code? Hell no...its the damned reason morals cant be legislated.. Not all people have the same ones. I can see you sitting their scratching your head wondering what I mean. Good god!
Sueezee1 1 year ago
@Sueezee1 So why do we legislate against slavery, rape, or child prostitution? After all, it is not wrong to those who do it, and who are we to impose our moral code on others?
Perhaps you think asserting and name-calling constitutes an argument, but it doesn't. For that you need premises and a conclusion, but all you have is a conclusion which you just keep asserting. Effective for winning online debates maybe, not so good for proving your claims are true.
Good day.
MrDrichards85 1 year ago
@MrDrichards85 says: So why do we legislate against slavery, rape, or child prostitution?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~ What in the hell does that have to do with someone designating what IS right or wrong? Dont try to fast talk me, youre not smart enough. And, those things are illegal because people have rights not to be slaves, raped etc... it is NOT because YOUR stupid ass thinks its wrong.
Sueezee1 1 year ago
@Sueezee1 says="rights not to be slaves"
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"RIGHTS NOT TO BE"
What a dumb-ass thing to say!
"RIGHTS NOT TO BE"!!!! LOL LOL LOL LOL
Hey dip shit,,,,RIGHTS are something that you are granted or given .
There is no such thing as a NEGATIVE RIGHT!
You've past posting things that are just stupid,,, now you are just pathetic in how little you really know.
BTW-I do know abortion is legal so no need for you post a reply ranting the only thing you do know, LOL
oh YEAH! You lose again idiot!
ekajeht 1 year ago
@MrDrichards85 says: Perhaps you think asserting and name-calling constitutes an argument,
~~~~~~~~~~~~~ OH, hell no.....but my commnets DO... You want to see "effective"?? Just prove me wrong. (smile)
Sueezee1 1 year ago
@MrDrichards85 LOL
It looks like you just sent SUEEZEE1 on another of her idiotic rants!
This happens a lot !
Whenever she gets her ass handed to her she either goes off on a rant or tucks her tail between her legs and slithers off.
Good job my man!
ekajeht 1 year ago
ugh. It's an UNBORN baby for Christs sake, it has no idea what is happening. And honestly if abortion were made illegal, people would still do illegally, in alleys with untrained doctorswho aren't sure what they are doing, and that can lead to the death of many women...so would you rather have babies who technacally aren't living "die"..or grown women with a possible future die?
zblamm2121 1 year ago
pro life is for hypocrites, if you eat meat or plants you kill that life in order to keep yourself alive.
ZAGGNUT1 1 year ago
@ZAGGNUT1 Or maybe the hypocrites are people who would never eat meat but would kill a baby in a second.
NeverDoubt1 1 year ago
@blondehairblogger What is wrong with raising a crippled child, they are humans too.In fact I was diagnosed with a disorder And the doctor cant even see the child when performing an abortion and must rely on feeling alone, which increases the chance of survival. In fact I could name you some abortion survivors. Ana Rosa Rodriguez,Gianna Jessen, Heidi Huffman , and sarah smith. And trust me I know alot more.
thehumancookie 1 year ago
@thehumancookie says: And the doctor cant even see the child when performing an abortion and must rely on feeling alone, which increases the chance of survival.
~~~~~~~~~~~ There is NO abortion procedure today that can produce a live infant. Your examples are outdated.
Sueezee1 1 year ago
@blondehairblogger Why should she give up her childs life based on the circumstances? There is something called adoption you know.
thehumancookie 1 year ago
@thehumancookie says:There is something called adoption you know.
~~~~~~~~~ Youre free to have as many unwanted babies you want to have and throw away for someone else to deal with, but dont expect smart women fo follow your childish lead.
Sueezee1 1 year ago
@blondehairblogger Abortion isnt, my question is.
thehumancookie 1 year ago
@blondehairblogger Its just a simple yes or no question, would you do it or not?
thehumancookie 1 year ago
Let me ask you pro choicers something. If your mother tried to abort you but failed, and you could go back in time to make sure the abortion was a success. Would you do it?
thehumancookie 1 year ago
@blondehairblogger very well
ajoseph925 1 year ago
If there were pro choice then would you views change if ur parent decided to abort you for a legitimate reason. Think about it alot of us wouldn't be here making a difference then
ajoseph925 1 year ago
@Andrew598895 says: there is a thing called adoption
~~~~~~ You mean...stop abortion & have a possible ONE MILLION babies thrown away each yr? 20 MILLION in 20 yrs?? Are you frickin kidding me? You may love keeping kids in dog pound like environments, being fed by gov workers while they WAIT for, MAYBE, someone to PICK then to love. Your hate for kids is pitiful!
Sueezee1 1 year ago
sigh... GOD HAS NO PART IN LAW. so sick of hearing people saying that things can or should be imposed in the law because of their baseless claims that god thinks x y or z. that is mindless drivel. and it isn't just about "killing a being". it is about the woman's right to not want to go thru a pregnancy. her body is affected in countless ways, AND giving birth is FAR more deadly to women than having an abortion. she is not obligated to use her body to keep someone else alive.
slyjokerg 1 year ago 18
@slyjokerg Everyone knows that unles you have a hysterectomy or other infertility issues, there is always the risk of pregnancy, therefore beore someone decides to have sex, they should prepare themselves for that possibility, and if they aren't prepared, don't have sex!
petpluto233 1 year ago
@petpluto233 "don't have sex" is not a solution to already being pregnant. it has 0 use. and beyond that, women don't have to have children just because they want to experience the pleasures of sex. they enter into no contract.
slyjokerg 1 year ago
@slyjokerg I know that "don't have sex" isn't a solution when the woman is already pregnant, but the only concrete, 100% birth control is abstinence. If you feel responsible enough to have sex, then be responsible when another life gets brought into it. I think that in the event of unplanned pregnancy, adoption is the best option if the mother isn't in a good condition to raise the child.
petpluto233 1 year ago
@petpluto233 abstinence is a ridiculous idea to promote. people will fuck and fuck and fuck, regardless. sex is VERY normal and VERY natural, and is VERY good for you physically and emotionally. thorough sex education and readily available birth control should be pushed MASSIVELY. adoption is not an alternative to abortion. adoption is an alternative to keeping a child and raising it. adoption does not end a pregnancy or stop birth. abortion does. they are separate choices.
slyjokerg 1 year ago 3
@slyjokerg So you don't agree that if people are fucking fucking and fucking, and oh! Surprise! You're pregnant! That's irresponsible? I certainly do. If you don't want to get pregnant, don't fuck so goddamn much, and maybe, you know, use a condom, and take the morning-after pill when it breaks? For every child that's aborted, that's somebody who just missed an oppurtunity to be a parent.
petpluto233 1 year ago
@petpluto233 your very premise is faulty and frankly stupid. you can get pregnant the first time you have sex. you are another person that assumes anyone that wants an abortion is some "dirty slut that fucks everyone in town." it doesn't matter if she is and does, but it goes to show that you people wish to vilify and attack abortion rights with falsely assumed characterizations. there is nothing wrong with sex. and why do you think the morning after pill is available like tic tacs? cont..
slyjokerg 1 year ago
@petpluto233 cont... and as far as "missing an opportunity to be a parent" is quite obviously an intentional decision, dumbass. the woman quite apparently doesn't wish to be a parent, or at least not the parent of an additional child. they don't have to do what you would like them to do. they don't have to want a child or another child. they don't have to feel and think as you do. they don't have to have your opinions or views. self-righteous clod.
slyjokerg 1 year ago
@Andrew598895 Hey, dumbfuck I love the way you refer to mentally ill persons: "screwed up child" is that to show compasion for someone that had the misfortune of being born mentally ill. That treatment your parents took to concieved you messed up your shitty brains. Idiot.
PALOMITA694 1 year ago
I'm ganna get so much hate mail for this.... The answer is simple.... Get rid of concraception.
VioletTeen17 1 year ago
Why is the murder of an unborn human allowed, but the death penalty for mass murderers is not?
M0ntsR3v 1 year ago
@M0ntsR3v A fetus or embryo is not a person, and its presence has a very real impact on the woman who it is growing within. The rights of the woman in this case trump the rights of the "maybe, someday, could be a person" that is a fetus.
Death penalty... Jesus, I hope you're kidding. Justice is imperfect, and death penalty is another word for revenge killing. It is unethical and immoral to put people to death when you can never really be sure they're guilty, and you gain nothing by killing them.
BigMikeMcBastard 1 year ago 2
@M0ntsR3v says; wy is murder of unborn allowed, but death penalty for mass murderer is not
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LOLOl, Where is the hell do YOU live that a mass murdered cant get the death penalty??? AND, abortion is NOT murdering a fetus. Dont lie
Sueezee1 1 year ago
anyone ever notice that almost ALL pro-life activists are Jesus freaks?
lna1102 1 year ago 2
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@lna1102 seperation of church from state
Ichliebegermany 1 year ago
@lna1102 So, what.It's God's LOVE that brought us the Gift of Life.So why wouldn't individuals who are PRO LIFE, express their LOVE for JESUS.I'm proud of my faith.
Instead of critizing,maybe look into what your critizing.
122651Lil 1 year ago
@lna1102 No woman smart enough to see through religion would be stupid enough to actively work toward limiting her own rights, lessening her control over her body. It takes women who observe blind adherence to their particular, very literally man-made religion, to actually want themselves to once again have unequal rights. Before you know it they'll be campaigning to end women's suffrage, or their ability to get a "man's job", or who knows what else. Republic of Gilead, here they come...
BigMikeMcBastard 1 year ago
Let's try not invoking religion to pass legislation.
quidproquo2004 1 year ago
40 days for Life maay be in your neck of the woods.Check out their web site to find a location in your area.Multiple SAVED unborn Lives.Abortion wounds the women physically,mentally, and spiritually.Stop dehumanizing the unborn.It is a potential life that can maybe do great things for this world.We must encourage Life, or we will lose God's greatest gift!
122651Lil 1 year ago
@122651Lil
With the presumption that there is a god, it makes your statement a fallacy.
Lexiathan 1 year ago
@Lexiathan No, presumption.It always been about "FAITH".How can you say there isn't a God.How do you prove that God doesn't exist.Thankfully, I've come to know the Lord more,and more thru the Bible.Plus a very HOLY priest gave us classes on prayer,and Holy Spirit.Through this holy priest, my faith has deepened consideraly.I pray that somehow in your Life that you come to know God's LOVE!
122651Lil 1 year ago
@122651Lil You're wrong: I have had an abortion and it didn't wound me physically, spiritually or mentally. It has been about 10 or so years since I had the abortion and I still cringe when I think 'imagine if I didn't have an abortion. It wasn't a life but I was alive.
lynlann 1 year ago
@lynlann What other women who've had an AB experienced.Check out Silent No More,or the info.on Priest fot Life.
Because you've had an AB,research has shown strong connection with Breast Cancer(BC),check Breast Cancer Prevention Institute.The info is Peer Reviewed,with strong documentation.This doesn't mean you will definitely get BC,but shown to inc.your risk.Sometimes exp.a response to the lose of their child 20yrs.later.Often it's about grieving the lose of the baby from AB.
122651Lil 1 year ago
I like that one statement from the girl. "Control your sperm". LOL. It takes two to make a baby. Blaming it on the guy is a cop out. Women can say 'no' much easier than guys can. I would suggest it is irresponsible to lead a guy on if you don't intend to have sex.
What are the stats? A guy thinks about having sex like every 5 secs or something and they will nearly say anything to have it. Come on girls, you need to take some responsibility too.
MrChristianBeliever 1 year ago
Why does everyone use the excuse not enough sex ed? There is plenty in schools so don't close your ears when they are talking about what you need to know. It is simple don't wanna get pregnant use birth control, female/male condom, spermicide, abstinence. (I do agree with abortion though if it is from a rape)
Notababykiller 1 year ago
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@backaround so your saying we should kill all the kids who don't get adopted?
XxXxXxmetalxXxXxX 1 year ago
One thing I never understood....is...that why do most people who are pro choice don't agree with killing 40 year old pedophiles?
fleadog12 1 year ago 2
AN UNWANTED PREGNANCY CAN RUIN A YOUNG GIRLS FUTURE FOREVER!
PALOMITA694 1 year ago 17
@PALOMITA694 And having a abortion wont???
DiannaMarie881 1 year ago
@DiannaMarie881 A child is be a life time commitment.
PALOMITA694 1 year ago
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@PALOMITA694 Unwanted? When you have sex there is always a chance.
joshray7 1 year ago
@PALOMITA694 then why was the young girl out there having sex knowing that it leads to pregnancy i mean seriously are you gonna tell me that she didn't know that it could lead to being pregnant. its as simple as this :
IF YOU DON'T WANT TO GET PREGNANT, DON'T HAVE SEX.
IF YOU DO HAVE SEX, DEAL WITH THE CONSEQUENCES OF YOUR ACTIONS.
THE BABY IS NOT TO BLAME AND SHOULDN'T HAVE TO PAY THE CONSEQUENCES FOR THE MOTHER'S MISTAKE.
THERE ARE OTHER ALTERNATIVE LIKE ADOPTION.
iloveubaby787 1 year ago
@iloveubaby787 Why do people drink and drive if they know they can have an accident, why do people smoke if they know they can get cancer, why do people swim if they know they can get drown, why do people eat unhealthy if they know they can become diabetic, why do people have sex if they know they can get pregnant or get AIDS, why do people do a lot of things that will have a negative outcome? Your guess is as good as mine, there is no correct answer to these questions I guess life just happens.
PALOMITA694 1 year ago
@iloveubaby787 says dont want to get pregnant dont have sex
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WHAT??? Billions of people have sex everday w/ no negative results, and you want all sex to stop.."just in case"? You dont care about unwanted pregnancies, you just have a fear of human sexuality!! There IS help for that!
Sueezee1 1 year ago
@iloveubaby787 says: if you have sex deal w/ the consequences
~~~~~~~~~ Abortion IS 'dealing with the consequences"!!
Sueezee1 1 year ago
@iloveubaby787 says adoption
~~~~~~~~ Youre free to have as many babies as you like to throw away for someone else to deal with, but dont expect smart women to follow your childish lead.
Sueezee1 1 year ago
@PALOMITA694 well she knew the risk when she went out and had sex so yeah
psysco15 1 year ago
@psysco15 What if her protection failed. Everyone should have a second chance.
PALOMITA694 1 year ago
@PALOMITA694 not abortion through
psysco15 1 year ago
@psysco15 Thank you for your opinion. We shall let the individual person decide.
PALOMITA694 1 year ago
@PALOMITA694 1 per cent of a fail rate, get over it "failing". if you are smart enough and adult enough to have sex you wont have a unwanted pregancy.
MegaAngermanagement 1 year ago
@PALOMITA694 then she shouldint have had sex . . . . simples . . .
MegaAngermanagement 1 year ago
@MegaAngermanagement people should not smoke, people should not drink alcohol, people should not eat unhealthy, poeple should not over eat, people should not have unprotected sex but they do. I think life just happens.
PALOMITA694 1 year ago
@PALOMITA694 so if I believe someone is going to ruin my life, for example if someone was going to accuse me in cheating in a important exam, i have the right to take that persons life? if someone were to ruin your life do you must still have the right to kill them. also this child might not ruin their life, could make it better in some way. when arguing against pro-lifers, who believe the child is alive at conception unless you can give a reason to kill a defenceless person your point fails
MysticalSloth 1 year ago
@MysticalSloth Born equals rights under the law. Unborn equals no rights under the law. Sorry for any inconveni